The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Who Is Florida Man? | Beyond the Scenes

Episode Date: August 6, 2023

What the f**k is up with Florida? Host (and former Florida resident) Roy Wood Jr. is joined by correspondent Desi Lydic, segment director Sebastian DiNatale, and local author Craig Pittman to break down what makes the Sunshine State so special when it comes to the eccentric local newsmakers that have come to be known as “Florida Man.”   Original air date: November 2, 2021See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Florida, God's waiting room. It's home to theme parks, the Everglades, your Peepaw, and of course, Florida man. Police report before committing a sexual act on a tree, yelling he was a god. This thanks tried to start a fire with spaghetti sauce. Was karate kicking those birds we attacked two people? Every week there's a new headline out of Florida. Wild, shocking, unnecessarily sexual. A masturbating at a bus stop, told police he was Captain Kirk. But have we ever stopped to ask the question why to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the theld police he was Captain Kirk. But have we ever stopped to ask the question, why?

Something's happening to men in Florida, and it can't just be a coincidence. As a future Pulitzer-winning journalist, it's my responsibility to uncover the truth, to reveal what lies beneath the swamp. To answer the question, what makes a man, Florida man? Florida man. Florida man. Florida man. Florida man. Florida man. That's right. We're talking America's favorite hero, Florida man, aka people going buck wild down there in America's penis showing up on the local news, then going viral.

Later on we're going to be joined by journalists and author Craig Pittman, but first I'd like to bring on two of the folks who brought this Florida man peace to life, a daily show producer Sebastian, De Natal. How are you doing good sir? I'm doing great, thank you, Roy, and I'm extremely offended by that olive garden, an Italian slam at the beginning of this podcast. I'm doing extremely great. Sorry to insult the food of food people. And it's Penei.

I don't know how you say it, but it's Pene. I'm from Alabama, we call it Pene. Okay. All right. Peney. See, and then the other voice you hear is my fellow Southerner, who's about to come on right now and have my back. Daily. A. A daily. A. important, Kentucky Bluegrass runs through her blood, Desilitic. How do you pronounce

Pena? I also pronounce it Penay, but I also, Roy, not to correct you or embarrass you, but it's Kentucky. So, I'm already two strikes in the whole part. Pardon me, I am so prepared. Now, for the people who don't have the internet, and let me preface it by saying this. You know, Sebastian, as a field producer, like it's one thing to go out and cover the piece, but you have a way, I don't know how to say this in like the most piecey way, but you, you, like, it's in your heart when you go out to like gather these pieces and this information. It's like no we've got to talk about the because they don't understand we have

field meetings where we pitch and talk about stuff and Sebastian comes in with the level of emotion like look these people in Florida I'm telling you we got to do something about them. So for the people who don't have the internet Sebastian who is Florida man and what was the segment all about? So I like th th th th th th th th th th th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like I like I like I like I like I like I like like I like I like like like like like I like like like to I like like to I like like like like to to to like like to like to to to the to to to to to the the the to their their to their to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their their their their th. the. the. the. theeat. theeat. theat. theeat. theeat. they're they're they're they're they're they're their the people who don't have the internet, Sebastian, who is Florida Man? And what was the segment all about? So I like to do field pieces that are a little bit more abstract and don't necessarily have like a good guy, bad guy dynamic that a lot of our field pieces do so well. And I had this idea for this Florida Man theory piece for quite a while. And I was trying to pitch it correctly and try to get the tone right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right.. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. thi the the the the the the the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to. to. toeeeea tooooooooooooooooooooo. te te the the the while, and I was trying to pitch it correctly and trying to get the tone right.

And then, as chance would have it, Trevor wanted to do this Florida week for the show where he would do shows from Florida. And it was kind of the perfect confluence of my, this piece that I wanted to do for a while and a reason to do it because normally we try to do pieces that are at least somewhat relevant to what's going on or, you know, a current event. And so since this was set, we had a whole week of shows in Florida, I was like, well, this might be a good opportunity for this piece. And so the idea for the piece was, I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, th, th, this, this, this, this, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I was like, well, this might be a good opportunity for this piece.

And so the idea for the piece was I'm like an internet junkie. I'm a big-time lurker. I'm on all the chat rooms and websites. So many DMs. There's tons of DMs. Very inappropriate to you. Well, you know. And one of the memes that has been around for, as long as long as thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I, thi, I, I, thi, thi, I'm, I'm, thi, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. And, I. And, I, I, I. And, I, I, I, I, I. And, I, I, I, I, I, I. And, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. th. And, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. thi. th. that has been around for as long as I can remember is this Florida Man meme.

There's like a Twitter account, which is this bot that basically can aggregate Florida Man stories. There's subredits dedicated to them. And they were just, and they've been around forever. I worked on the old show with John and we we were doing Florida Man Act 1's way, way back when. So it was definitely not a new phenomenon, but I think at the time, you know, Trump had gotten elected and there was just kind of this resurgence of really, really crazy stories,

especially coming out of Florida. And I just wanted to do a piece that kind of explored, not, and this is in the piece, but not out of Florida. And I just wanted to do a piece that kind of explored, and this is in the piece, but not who is Florida man, but why is Florida man? Why do we hear about these stories so much? And that was kind of the impetus for starting the piece. It's this mysterious Bickfoot type thing because there isn't a Kentucky man, excuse a Kentucky man. There isn't a Kentucky man, excuse a Kentucky man There isn't an Indiana man The only thing I think comes close is Texas where they just go Texas, but Texas just kind of covers

Everybody as a whole like this is very specific. It's like it's Florida and it's men Who are screwing up as a former Florida resident? What are the qualifications, Desi, to be a Florida man? Because you know, I lived in Florida for five years for college. Shout out to Tallahassee. But I, like, do you have to be super stupid or is it just inherently downed? Because you're in Florida, you're automatically an idiot. Well, I think what we learned from our expert that we got to sit with Craig is that there's a lot more more thnate thnate the the the the th. th. the th. th. th. the the th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. Because th. Because thi. Because thi. Because thi. Because thi. Because thi. Because thi. Because thi. Because thi. thi. Because to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be, to be, to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be. to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a thi. thi. thi. thi. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their thorou. their. their. th. th. that we got to sit with Craig is that there's a lot more underneath it. There's a lot going on in Florida and there's quite a few reasons why we see those headlines so often.

But I think it usually involves a gator, something illegal, usually beer, and something unnecessarily sexual. Usually every Florida man's story has all of those elements. Right? That's pretty accurate. But no, I think like, my favorite pieces that I get to do on the show are pieces where we think it's about one thing and then somewhere in the piece we discover it's about something else entirely. So we kind of go into this piece with our, with envisioning these, you know, Florida man memes and think that we're going in to kind of poke fun at Florida men and then quickly realize like there's a lot

more underneath it. There are a whole list of reasons for why we see these headlines in the news, but most importantly, towards the end, we discover the Sunshine Act. And we end up kind of landing in this place of, you know, it's not just that these things are happening in Florida, but we are hearing about them a lot more in Florida because of the Sunshine Act and really there's a little bit of Florida man everywhere which I didn't know coming into it. So that's I mean that was my favorite thing about that piece. There was this

nice arc and discovery that people aren't really talking about. I want to go back Sebastian to what you said a little bit earlier about you liking to live in the abstrack which is true. You did one of the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I, I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, I, th. I, I, I, I, I, I, I th. the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. the. th. th. the. th. the. thi. th. th. ue. You did one of my favorite pieces on the show that, I mean of course every piece that I'm in is my favorite, but one of the favorite pieces that I was not in. You Ronnie Chang and you had Ronnie and the Umma Thurman kill bill to yellow, what was it, the Nunchuk's were illegal? Bruce Lee, yeah, yeah, yeah, we did like a Kung Fu movie basically for a piece that's.. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, their, that's, their, that, that, that, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, I I I I. I. I. I. I. I, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the Nunchuk, Nunchukes were illegal. Bruce Lee, yeah, yeah, yeah, we did like a Kung Fu movie basically for a piece that's very tertiarily about Kung Fu. Hey, isn't it a little weird that I'm playing this guy? He's like super white. Hey, is it a little weird that I'm playing this guy?

He's like super white. Ronnie, if a white guy does it, it's problematic. It's cultural appropriation. If you do it, it's fun. Is it? I honestly, I don't know. Okay, whatever. Let's fight.

So, with this piece, you went into it creatively with this true detective angle. Talk to me a little bit about that production style and when you're actually sitting down with these actual because you all went and talk to actual Florida men who have been the focus of news stories While at the same time you're trying to have this conversation, but also trying to frame it in a way that the viewers haven't seen before so that they can at least feel like they're getting something, you know, a little different. Totally. I am a hack when it comes to originality or creativity and I truly consider myself just like bound to parity as much as I can be because everything's been done all the time so much better than I can do it.

And so rather than trying to reinvent or recreate something, I lift from a lot of things. And so for this, we were going into it with a true detective vibe. The first season had been out for a couple years, and I loved the first season of true detective. Originally, I had pitched this, I don't know if you remember Roy, but this was with you and Desi. Roy was the Woody Harrelson type character and Desi was the Matthew McConaughey character. And I was so jazzed about it and you know in one of the pitch meetings Trevor was like, that's great. I don't think we need Roy for this. Desi

can do all of this. Not to mention there's going to be so much stuff here, you won't have time for both of them doing those those thagagagagagagagagagagagagagagag. th. th. th. th. And th. the game. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thirty. thirty. thirty. to be to be thi. thi. to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be th. thi. thi. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. toe. th toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to to tothem doing those games as well as the Florida men. And he was absolutely right. And I'm glad that we just did it with Desi because we wouldn't have had time for exploring your guys' relationship and all that stuff. But to your point, I loved how true detective was filmed and I just, I was a big fan of that first season especially. And so I wanted, when I go into pieces, I like, I have an idea for what I want it to look like and feel like. And our DP on this, who's an amazing DPs, my good friend Joel. Joel Sadler, incredible cinematographer.

He, so I basically showed him shots from True Detective and things that I liked from that show and he was able to basically recreate it almost to a T. And so when you're trying to replicate that, it's great if the audience knows what you're doing. Like, oh, this is like a true detective thing, that's great. But it's equally as satisfying if they don't, and they're like, this is really interesting and cool. But at no point do I ever want people to think I came up with any of these artistic or aesthetic choices. These are all other geniuses that I'm just trying to replicate. So that was the idea for Florida Man because there was a lot of similarities between these Florida Man stories and True Detective, which is horrifying because that

shows about a psychotic serial killer. But yeah, that's kind of how I went going into it. And yeah, I'm, I'm, all of the elements technically that made this really work were all of the things that were really out of my control. And as a testament to our team, Joel, Desi, acting, obviously, our editor Nick Johnson was incredible and brought so much great ideas to make it work. And then not to mention, you know, our segment producer, Matt, got so many of those bookings. One of our camera people down there, Kelly, he had all these locations

in mind. So it was a true team effort to really pull this off. And I think as a testament, you can tell how good or bad a piece is based on how many people are on board providing or contributing their art. And for this one it was like a full team effort and I think it shows. It's just, yeah, It's my my my my my my my my my my my my my favorite people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people. I their. I their. I their. I. I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, th. th. th. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,'s my favorite piece. I think what people forget is that, you know, this, we're not the local news. It's not just a reporter and a cameraman and go. Like, this is miniature full, short film production type shit going on here. Desi, when you were talking with these people, how much did it feel like to you? Because the question we always get is correspondence, are the people you're talking to in on it? Where, to me, it's never been that style of conversation.

It's just tell me your truth, and we're gonna have a conversation about the way you see the world. But within that, did any of them realize what they were saying? or do you feel feel like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like th you feel like th you feel like th you feel like th you feel like th you feel like thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho what they were saying or do you feel like they felt like, well, maybe I shouldn't be talking to the daily show? I don't think so. I think all of them were extremely confident in their Florida manness. I think they felt really good about who they are and what they had to say. And that makes it so much fun for us. Like, I mean, for me it was like the had to say. And that makes it so much fun for us. Like, I mean, for me, it was like the perfect cocktail of Sebastian being so specific about his vision of what this piece should look like,

the style of it and the tempo of it and the mood, and then casting all of these great, really genuine and authentic and very funny characters to just do their thing. All I had to do was step up and just listen and react to all of it and play straight person. It was like, I mean, you know, that's like easy. Which for this is was not an easy task to do. I mean, Desi's credit, I was throwing her into these situations with these, a lot of the times, actually crazy men. And there were, it was not, the amount of straight-facedness that Desi had to perform for this is astounding compared to what these people were talking about off camera and on camera. So that was no easy fee.

This is where Nick comes into play because Nick could edit out all of my breaks and mental breakdowns in between each shot. But no, I got that alligator man, I'm sorry, but he was, he was just the greatest. He's been hit with charges after pictures in this video showing him handling an alligator which he posted were seen by law enforcement. A real name Jordan Jordan Bedford, but I go by the alligator man. Okay.

Alligator man, what's the common factor among all Florida men? We all different. Well, I'm different from the rest, because I do the wrong thing in the right way, if that makes sense. No. So you're not from Florida, so you don't understand my language what I'm talking right now, but I do the wild things. Anything you think of, I probably do it. Like I tell you, anything? I catch gators.

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fish. It's pretty gross. What does the smell like to you? Smells like dead fish. And we rode a boat into some of the algae plumes and like and like the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. I th. I the th. I the the the th. I I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi theeeaa thea theauuuu. I thiaau-sau-s. I'm thiaaaaaaaaaa thia thia th smell like to you? It smells like dead fish. And we rode a boat into some of the algae plumes and like our eyes were watering and shit. Like we planned to be there 30 minutes and like 10 minutes in. We were like, I think we got everything we need. Let's fucking get out of here. How, what was the worst part of your shoots? Because I noticed that a lot of yours were outdoors. Costa and I at least had a couple of the the the the the the the the the the the algae the algae the the algae the the algae the algae the algae to some to some the algae to some some some some some to some some some to some some the algae to some some to some to some to some to some to some to some to some to some the algae to some to some to some to some some some some to some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some the algae to get the algae to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to Because I noticed that a lot of yours were outdoors. Costa and I at least had a couple of indoor situations. Yeah, it was hot. It was really hot.

It was, I can remember sweating, just, and I am not, I know I'm from the South, I am not a lady when it comes to heat and sweat. I was dripping and sweating profusely. And for some reason I chose to wear a black part wool suit in the in the 90 degree weather with that humidity in the middle of an orange grove. Yeah that was, I mean that was partially my fault because I wanted to look I wanted to be this kind of. Yeah, it looked like a detective. Detective look. The detective were where. And that yeah that day was so hot and that, I that, I that, I that, I that, that, that was that was that was that was that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th th th th th. the th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I the the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. the. the. theeeeeea theeeea theeea theeea thea theea the. the. the. the. th I wanted to look. I wanted to be this kind of cool. It looked like a detective. Detective look. The detective were where? And that, yeah,

that day was so hot and Craig will tell you, the guy that's on the show later, because we were interviewing him, we wanted to be outdoors because we had an orange grove available to shoot in, very Florida, and drols really good at working with natural light, but man that was so hot the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thii. thi. thi. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that thi. that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they. they. they. the. the. the. the. the. theat theat theat theat theat theat theat theat theat that day theateate. that day that day that day that day the man that was so hot. I needed to like between takes, like go into the car, cool down a little bit. We all were running into this tiny pickup truck just to get like a little taste of the AC and then run back into the field. At one point we're in the middle of filming towards the end and I looked down in my sweat stain on my chest just like grew to about this size. It was it was. It was the th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was like. It was like. It was like. It was like. It was like. It was like. It was like. It was like th. It was like, th. It was like, th. It was like th. th. th. th. th. to th. th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. We all. We all. We all. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the tod today all all all all all all all all all all today all all all today all all all today all all all all all the. the. th. th. to about this size. It was it was a problem. It was very hot. And then do you remember Seth you came up with this? We were we were clearly going for this true detective very noir feel and at some point we're

like Desk should smoke. I think Desk should smoke cigarettes during this piece. Yeah. And I thought yeah that's that's a great idea and I'm gonna commit. Like I'm really going to show them that I that I that I th th th th th th th th th th th th th to to to to to to the to the to their to their to their to their their to their their their their their their tho. I'm their the. tho. their their th. their their you their you their you their you their you their you their you their you their you their you their you their you their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm to c. I'm to c. I'm to c. I'm to. I'm to. I'm to. I'm to. I'm te. I'm te. I'm te. te. tea. tea. tea. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. a great idea. And I'm going to commit, like I'm really going to show them that I'm a smoker. And I really committed to it all the way through. I'm coughing, I can't breathe. At what point, Seb, did you decide, that's, let's, Desi, let's put the props down and not do that anymore. Well, I, we got the one shot of you smoking smoking needed, but yeah, I was definitely like, there were a lot of suspect props.

We had unpasteurized orange juice that we were gifted from an orange grove that I was like, Desi, just start chugging this orange juice on camera. And she was just fresh out of a field. Fresh out of a field. So there were a lot of questionable props and probably dangerous things that, not to mention, you know, putting Desi in like the middle of nowhere with this pirate man that had guns and knives on him. Wait, but he was also a landscaper. The pirate who was also a landscaper.

Jamie, yeah. Hi, Missy, I am Captain Silky's Silver Tips. He was also a landscaper though. The pirate who is also a landscaper. Yeah. Hi, Missy, I am Captain Silky, Silver Tips. Cool. And you're a pirate? Well, I'm a pirate most of the day. When I'm not, I'm a landscaper. I think the, to your point, Roy, I think the big draw of Florida men is that a lot of them want and like notoriety. And two of our guys kind of were like, all three of them were kind of like that, but our first guy, Robbie, was definitely more on like the, I don't know how much of this

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We're going to be talking about the election. Earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient-to-bread ratio on sandwiches. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart wherever you get your podcast. Beyond the Scenes We Are We're talking about Florida man. We already have Desi Lydic and Sebastian Dina Tile in the chairs. Joining us now is a Florida man, not the Florida man. He's a man from Florida who doesn't do Florida man shit. You understand what I'm trying

to say right now. Journalists and author of the state you're in. Florida man, Florida women and other wildlife. He's an expert witness who was featured in the original segment that Desi did. Craig Pittman, Welcome to Beyond the Scenes. Thanks for having me. Now when we talk Florida, and this is the thing that I learned when I was at Florida A&M for College up there in the Panhandle, the Florida that people think kind of happens south, like Orlando and all points out. That's Postcard Florida, that's TV Florida. Panhandle is kind of like th th th th, that's postcard Florida, that's TV Florida.

Panhandle is kind of a different feel. Like where in Florida are you from? Are you from North Florida or South Florida? They even split that shit up like the Dakotas. Well, I'm from Pensacola but I now live in St. Petersburg, so I've been on both sides of that line. And I think it's more of a coastal versus thaaaaaussha coastal, tha coastal, tha coastal, thiaiaiaiaa, thiaiaea, thia, thia, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's, that's kind, thi. thi. that's kind, thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, versus inland thing. You know, people see the postcards. They think, you know, it's all beaches everywhere and they don't realize, oh, wait, you know, there's cattle ranches and, you know, lumber mills and, you know, crazy people doing stuff

at the liquor store. Yeah, you got people trying to sneak into horse stables and Ocala, all of that. Oh, Mariana, you went Highway 90 on me right there. That's right. I know all of that shit, baby. Fort Walton Beach, Destin to Florida Bama. So let me, let me start with this. Desi Sebastian, kick back and watch two Florida boys kicking for a second. Why are these New York elites always coming for us, dog?

Because they envy us. They want to be us. They want to have that freedom. That's why. They want to be able to act on any- Snortin' their Florida cocaine and then judge Florida. Yeah, exactly. It's all, it's all, it's all hating, they're just hating because they're inviolidness, man. But in all seriousness, what is it that that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes that makes all it is. But in all seriousness, what is it that makes Florida seem crazier than the rest of America? Like, is that reputation justified? Or is it really that much crazy? Yeah, oh, heck yes.

Oh, definitely. Listen, my basic principle is, you find weird stuff happening anywhere you find humans, but more of it happens in Florida and it tends to be weirder. And I think that's because we have certain elements here that you don't find anywhere else. We've undergone this wrenching demographic change where you went from the least populated southern state in 1940 to now being the third most populous state. And everybody's kind of crammed into this 30-mile-wide swath along the coast and along the eye eye eye eye eye eye eye eye eye eye eye eye eye eye eye eye eye I I I I I I I I I I I I I the the the the the the the the the the the theme parks are. You know, we've got this, you get these weird elements to the state where we've got you know this invasive python population eating everything in sight in the Everglades. We've got, actually have people who are professional mermaids making a living as state employees in Florida,

which you don't find in any other state. It's frozen iguanas falling from trees when it drops from low 30. Yes, or showing up in toilets. They show up in toilets too. I mean, the crazy stuff just happens here all the time. And people in Florida who've been here for a while are like, oh yeah, that's just, you know, that's just Thursday, man. I can't remember Sebastian if it was it was iti earlier that was talking about the Sunshine Laws, but can you go into that a little bit more for us? Sure, so, you know, I read Craig's book, O Florida, for this, in preparation for this piece,

because it basically had, bless you my son. Thank you. It was like also the first non-fiction book I had read it like 10 years so I was really just absorbing all this new information. Did it still feel like fiction though? It did? Well it did, absolutely. I was like there's no way. But Craig really broke down very nice and neatly all of these factors like the ones that he just said. And the one that stuck with me the most was, and Craig will also tell you, it's certainly not the, the, the reason. We kind of elevated it for the piece to, you know, end the piece basically because we needed an ending. But the Sunshine

Act, this law that Craig could probably speak to a lot better than I, basically allows for a tonne of this transparency in Florida. in the the the the th. their th. th. And th. And thiiiiiii. And thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. the. the the the speak to a lot better than I, basically allows for a ton of this transparency in Florida when all these misdemeanors or sometimes felonies happen where a lot of people journalists especially can go and get these records of these incidences, incidents, very easily. And that's the amount of Florida man stories, because you talk about, like we do this whole montage in the beginning and the end of all of these stories. We didn't have to like, we didn't have to make up any of those stories because they were so, you just googled Florida Man stories, finding like, literally dozens to hundreds of headlines on camera anchors reading these stories. It was clear to me and us that the

Sunshine Act definitely plays a part in why these stories are so accessible and talked about. Because after doing the piece and after researching it more, I realized not a ton of other states, almost no other states have as expansive transparency laws about these types of misdemeanors. So that was for me a nice button to kind of put the whole piece together, which is, you know, there's weirdos everywhere, like Craig was saying. But I think in Florida, all of these factors, plus this idea of complete transparency just really tickled me as a really nice way to summarize why this kind of person is so rampant. Craig, I'm about 20 years out of you know last paying rent in Tallahassee, but I

remember distinctly in the corner stores, I don't remember what it was called, but it was like the crime paper. And oh yeah, the mug shot paper, yeah. Okay, so like, I don't know of another state that just publishes mug shots for just random misdemeanors and solicitation of prostitutes and you caught me with a crumbent of meth. Like, does that play into it as well in normalizing that behavior for locals? Somewhat, I mean, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you, you, you, you know, you, you know, you know, that, that, that, that, the, the, the, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, the, and, the, and, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. the, the, the, thi, the, the, the into it as well in normalizing that behavior for locals? Uh, somewhat. I mean, you know, obviously somebody figured out, hey, we can use the Sunshine Law and

make money off of it by publishing these little ratty pulp mags full of the latest mug shots because people will buy it and go, oh yeah, it's Mr. Johnson, I knew he was up to something, you know. But there's been a sort of an ethical, the their thii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. thi. I's, thi. th. th. their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they. So, they. So, they. So, they. So, they. So, they. So, they. So, they. So, they. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to something, you know. But there's been a sort of an ethical debate about that too where there were some newspapers that were making money off of running mugshot websites and then there started to be a sort of a backlash to that of saying, you know, well a lot of these folks they just got arrested, they haven't been convicted of anything, you know, and these mug shots are going to be there for a while, do you really want to highlight that? And so people started pulling back on that.

Let me just respond to Sebastian real quick though, that yeah, the Sunshine Law is a reason why a lot of these stories wind up coming to light. But after Florida passed its sunshine laws, some other states to the volume of Florida's coming out of those states. Totally. you don't see weird stories to the volume of Florida's coming out of those states. I mean we just we are you know we produce more weirdness than we produce orange juice basically. Florida's a weird place though man like it's this weird intersection of retirees, tourists, a lot of immigrants, a lot of immigrants, locals, and then you just have like regular agriculture people. Like, there's certain states, like,

Nebraska's for fucking farming. That's what we're here to do. That's one of those boring square states, you know, that how can they be fun? So there isn't this convergence of different agendas, not to mention droves of, it's where Nickelodeon, the fact that Nickelode stuff, a Viacom property which we love very very much, please watch the Paul Patrol movie on Paramount Plus. But like I'm bewildered by so many different things all happening in that place at the same time. Like is there a way to

decrease these types of incidents? No, in fact I think they're going to continue to increase as the population continues this will, despite our efforts to kill people off with COVID that is. The, you know, our population just keeps getting bigger and bigger, bigger, and we have, you know, we have like a hundred million tourists coming every year too on top of the regular residents. So, and again, they're all all all all all all have all have all have all have all have all have all have their all have have have have have have have have their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the of the regular residence. So, and again, they're all kind of crammed into that same narrow area. So, and people come here with these expectations too, they feel like Florida is a place to have a second chance to start over and, you know, make some of the same mistakes they made before and maybe make some new ones. So that contributes to it as well.

To that point, too, Craig, I think our pirate, Silky Silver Tips, that was actually his story. He was like, he was a transplant, even though he kept saying, like, he was, he kept talking about being like born and raised in Florida and then immediately says, well, I'm a transplant. But that was Chicago. But the other point that I thought was really cogent, and a part that I wanted to to try try try try to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to make a the to make a big a big a big a big a big a big a big a big a big a big a big a their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, try. try. tipe. tipe. tipe. tipe. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. the other point that I thought was really cogent and a part that I wanted to try to make a big centerpiece for this particular piece is the mental health issue. And we even get our first, I mean our first Florida man willingly tells us, like Desi asked, what do you think it is? And he just says right off the bat, unprompted mental health issues. Isn't there something that all Florida men share? There's something behind it.

Mental health issues? Then in the piece we get you to elaborate on that, Craig, that Florida has one of the worst I think mental health. We consistently rank 49th among the states in spending on mental health, which I can only say thank God for Texas. Yeah, so yeah I think that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th among the states in spending on mental health, which I can only say thank God for Texas. Yeah, so yeah, I think that's probably, if you wanted a really quick 10-second Florida man piece, that's probably it. It's that there's almost no mental health resources and a lot of these people need those resources. Yes, they do.

So then to that point, Desi, when you were down there talking talking to to to to to to to to to to to to to they and then to that point Desi, when you were down there talking to these people and like I've often felt like when you go and cover a piece as a correspondent and then you go back and you become a consumer of media again on the other side of that, it can sometimes change how you view people like. Do you think that the people that are in these Florida man stories and that are highlighted every day in media? Are they mental health or they dealing with addiction issues? I'm? Do? Do. th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th, th, th, like, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th thi thi thi thi tho, like tho, like tho, like tho, like tho, like tho, like tho, like tho, like tho, like tho, like th th th th th, like th, like th, like th, like th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their they they they they they their their their their their their thoooo media. Are they victims of circumstance or are they mental health? Are they dealing with addiction issues? I'm no expert, Craig is certainly the expert, but it seems like there are all of those issues at play. I think the stories, the men that we talked to down there, were certainly wacky characters without a doubt. But I think in the booking process, were also pretty conscious of finding subjects that did not have horribly dark stories in their in their past. So you know we didn't want to be making Florida men who have mental health issues or addiction issues the butt of the joke. Instead I think

we tried to very specifically book people who had funny stories, who kind of were just like a victim of their circumstances. And then also on top of that, start a little bit of a conversation of the problem and the way that the media was portraying some of these headlines and these stories. I think part of the joke was also on, you know, journalists being kind of the hero of their own stories and the way that they were covering all of this. Yeah, Desi's whole like B plot was that she wanted to win a bunch of like Pulitzer's for this because. Well, it's coming. It's coming. I haven't yet. But we have some time. Part two. So Craig to to to to to to to to to to to the p to to the p the p. the p. to the p. the p. the p. the p. the p. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the their. their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. te. teooooooooooooo. teo. teo. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the time. Part 2. So Craig, to that point, like some police departments post Florida man stories on their way, hey, look who we arrested. This guy was doing some wacky, wacky, wacky.

Yeah, we got them. Everybody laugh in the comments. Make sure you like and review our police department podcast. Like, is there a change in the public perception? You just subscribe. Oh my gosh, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho the the the thi. tho the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tho tho tho thothe public perception to a tea? Oh my gosh, that's horrifying. I didn't realize that's a real thing. Oh, yeah. That's horrible. And the funny thing they actually caught a guy because he came in and made comments on their Facebook posting about him. Oh my gosh. And so then they were able to track him down and arrest him. Wow, and he became a Florida man story. All right, well after the break,

we're going to talk about where we can go going forward with this issue, or do we just need to solve Florida off? Or will global warming solve this problem for us? It's beyond the scenes. We'll be right back. You know, we could just wait this shit out. You never know, Daisy. Just a matter of time. Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. toea. toea. toea. toe. th. th. th. th. You never know, Daisy. Just a matter of time. Hey, everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast. The weekly show. It's going to be coming out every Thursday. So exciting. You'll be saying to yourself, TGID.

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Yeah. More than three Florida men together is called a y'all more than five is a god damn. Craig. I think it's called a jail technical Sebastian as a non-Floriadian do you think it's fair that Florida is a punching bag or it's earned yeah you know I think it's fair that it is a punching bag I mean I'm from New Jersey so I get the idea of a Florida of the North no no it's very very different but I that I'm the I will say. I that. I will say I I am I th. I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm from th I'm from th I'm from th th th th th th th th th. I'm from th. I'm th. I'm the I'm the I'm from the I'm from the I'm the I'm the I'm the I'm the I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the I'm the I'm the I'm from I'm from I'm from I'm from I'm from the I'm from the I'm from th. I'm from th the I'm from the I'm from the the the the the th th th the the th th th th th th th th th th. I th. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi theeeeeeeeeeeeeee. I the thee. I the the. I the the Jersey, so I get the idea of a punching bag state. No, no, no, no, it's very, very different.

But I will say, I guess punching, it really depends on how you approach and view these stories. Obviously, if there's a mean-spirited shot in Freud a element to people enjoying these a lot of the times horrific stories I think that's very problematic and that's not what we wanted to do with this piece we try to approach it with empathy but also a type of light hearted because a lot of these stories are pretty lighthearted for the most part there are some that are incredibly dark and we didn't want to focus on those and I think that you didn't you didn't want want want want want to focus to focus to focus are incredibly dark and we didn't want to focus on those.

And I think that... Oh, you didn't want to focus on the myth band biting faces off in my mind. No, I didn't want to focus on that. Yet, yeah, Howard. There's still time. There's comedy in eating someone's face under a bridge on a Tuesday afternoon. Although to a point, I do think that Florida people, and Craig could probably confirm or deny this, there is a sense of, not pride, but there is a sense of, yeah, that is us kind of, like we are that insane and crazy and colorful and a caricaturey, and I think that a lot of the times they lean into that, so it's kind of, it's, I think it's a celebration of that. I might be way off, Craig. No, no, I think I think I think I think I think I think I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi thi thi thi, thi, th. th. th. th, th, th, th is th is a sense th is a sense that a sense that a sense that a sense that a sense that a sense that a sense that a that a that a th. thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that. So it's kind of a, I think it's a celebration of that. I might be way off, Craig. No, no, I think there's a split. I have some friends who like me or Florida natives who every time they see some wacky story come out nationally, they're like, oh God, please don't let it be Florida. And of course, it's always Florida. There's always some Florida element. Like the woman in New Jersey who was getting on the plane with the plane, the plane, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their, their, their, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their their their their their their, their, there's their, there's there's their their their there's some some there's some their there's some their there's there's there's the on the plane with the emotional support Peacock, the Peacock was from Florida. I mean there's always some Florida

aspect to it. But then there's others and this is my point of view which is you know let your Florida freak flag fly and you know be proud of the fact that we are the most interesting state. You are never bored here you know it's not like one of those square states where you know you know, you turn on the news every day and it's the same thing day after day. Here, you know, you open the paper, you turn on the news, you're like, wow, a guy punched a swan today. Hmm, okay. We are the most interesting state. I think that should be our slogan, not the sunshine state, because it rains here so much.

their thrown the to, it for outsiders to attack Florida and make fun of Florida and make Florida man jokes, which to Sebastian's point and to your point even makes people wear that difference with a sense of pride to the point where they become contrarian, you know when you look at what's happening right now in Florida with just anti-vaccing and well first anti-masking then anti-vaccine how much of that is just people being defiant to the people that have been made well you were gonna make fun of us anyway so I'm gonna do what I want to screw you well I think that's the tapping into this you know Florida has always had

this really strong libertarian streak you know we don't want the government telling us what to do. We were an open range state long after any of the Western states. I mean, up until 1949, you didn't have to finish your cattle here. You know, so, you know, it's like, so, you know, DeSantis has really tapped into that and tapped into that, which is, he's the government telling people what to do, you can't tell people what to do, which is you can't tell people what to do, about masks. So he's managed to do a nice little political jiu-jitsu move on the situation there. But some of it too is, you know, there are people here who are just that wacky that they're like, yeah, I think I'm not going to take the vaccine, but I am definitely going to get me some deworm medicine from the horse from from from from from from from from from from from the horse from from from from from the from the horse from from from the horse from from from the horse from from from from from the horse from the horse from from the horse from the horse from the horse from the horse from the from the horse from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the horse from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the from the their. from their. from their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their medicine their medicine their medicine. from from from from from from from from from from from from from the the horse from the horse from the horse from the horse f from the horse f from the horse f from the horse f from the horse f from the horse f. the horse f. the horse f. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the horse farm people. Desi, do you think that everything that happens in Florida, is it Florida problem or an American problem or is it just the internet making things seem worse than what they are?

Probably all of the above, I think the thing that I loved about the piece so much, and like Sebastian said, we definitely highlighted this probably more than you could factually say that this is the piece so much. And like Sebastian said, we definitely highlighted this probably more than you could factually say that this is the entire reason. But that the Sunshine Law really gave me a new perspective on what was happening in Florida and that it is talked about more because of that law. We just happen to see those headlines a lot more and that these things are happening all over the country.

So I think when there are huge issues all over America, you want to go like, oh, this is a Texas problem or this is a Florida problem. And yeah, there are certain challenges that exist there, but it's also really opening up a larger conversation of what's happening all over the country and if they aren't addressed there locally, they become bigger problems all over the country. So yeah, I mean, Craig is the expert on that. Well, we've got a writer here named Tim Dorsey, who I like a lot, and one of Tim's lines is Florida is the pace car for national dysfunction, which I think is a pretty accurate way to put in. That's incredible. That's incredible.

Craig, then we'll end with this. Well, we got one more thing, but it's silly, but I want to do it. But first, we'll end with a more serious question. The last serious question, if we know that you cannot shame or embarrass people into better behavior, how do we create a sense of empathy for other people, including Floridians? Especially in this internet age, how do you create a sense of empathy for someone? Because like even now with people dying who were, like, there are anti-vaxers who die and the first thing they do is pull up their tweet and go nanny, nanny boo boo boo, look what you said three weeks ago.

That ain't empathy. How do we create a sense of that as a way to hopefully you know bring the country together or at least bring Florida closer to the country. Man if I knew that they'd be giving me the Nobel and the Pulitzer. But but you know I you're absolutely right we should feel empathy for these folks. I actually have a piece in my new book, the state you're in where I argue that instead of laughing at the people in these mug shots, we should just, every time look at them and go, there but for the grace of God, go I. You know, because one screw up one mistaken, you could be the one in the little mugshot magazine being sold at the corner store. All right, and so then last question, and this is for everyone. Does everyone know their Florida birthday?

No, can we do this? What is your Florida man birthday? Well, first we have to explain, Craig, can you explain that to people what the Florida man birthday is? Yeah, this was a thing that went Florida man and your date of birth and do it in Google and it spits out whatever was the Florida man story for that particular day because of course there is a Florida man story for 365 days including and maybe even leap day as well. Mine turned out

to be a fairly tragic one and which I don't want to talk about. But that's the thing is some of these stories are not funny. They're fairly tragic but of the ones the ones. Some. Some. Some. Some. Some. Some. Some. Some. Some. Some. the ones, the ones, the ones, the ones, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, the, and, the, I, I, or, I.s, or, or, I.or, or.or, or, the, or.or, the, or.or, the, the, the, or, the, the, they're they're fairly tragic but of course some of the ones that turned up you know people were laughing about aha you know the burglar in Silver Springs who broke in and thought that the ashes in the in the cremation urn were actually something you could snort you know things like that I mean you can I just did my Florida man I just did my the Florida the the birthday I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their I just just just just just just I just I just I just I just I just I just I just I just I just I just I just I just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just I just I just I just I just I just I just I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. I'm. I'm. they. they. they. I'm. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. the the the the the the think this is a nice not super dark one but is police arrest Florida man for drunken joyride on motorized scooter at a Walmart. That hits a lot of boxes I think. Yes it does. Here's two from my birthday that I guess one's decent one's a little little darker. Florida man beat ATM says it gave him too much cash. I remember that. I wish I

had that problem. I think that's a really good example sorry of the that there's almost no logic to any of these stories because you're like oh he beat him up because he didn't the machine didn't give him enough money but that he beat him up because it's just all of these stories defy any logic or sense and I think that's what's so great about th that that that that that that that that that that that that th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th. th th th th th th th. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi. I I I I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I wish I wish I wish I wish I wish I wish I wish I wish I wish I wish I wish I wish I wish I wish I wish I wish I wish I wish I wish I wish I wish I wish I wish th that that that the the the the. the. the. I wish I wish I wish the. the. I wish I wish I wish I the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th he beat him up. It's just all of these stories defy any logic or sense. And I think that's what's so great about them. The other one, the other one, Florida man throws charit child in dispute over donut. Over donut? Yeah, I only read that because he didn't connect.

Okay, that's fine. As long as he had bad aim, that's didn't connect. He theat's fine as long as he had bad bad aim that's the important thing. You guys I just plugged my birthday in and it came up nothing found so is that the saddest Florida man story of all time? That will have something will happen then on that date and sometime the next week I think it's like a candy man I'll sit in front of the mirror. I would say it three times. Florida man Florida th Florida that th Florida that th Florida th Florida. Well Florida. Well Florida. Well Florida. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. that's. that's. that's. that's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he he he he he he he he he he he he th. always say it three times. Florida man, Florida man, Florida man. Well his book is the state you're in, Florida Florida men, Florida women, and other wildlife.

Craig Pittman, thank you so much for coming beyond the scenes with myself, Desi Lydic and Sebastian Deintow. I've enjoyed it. This was great, man. Well, we did it. Daily Show.com slash Beyond. You gotta get back down to Pensacola, man. It was some good barbecue down. Hey, beyond the scenes listeners, if you haven't rated and reviewed us yet on Apple podcast, I need you to stop right now and do that. Drop us a rating. Let us know how you feel and write a review. Write a review too. I read those to my child at the end of the night because I keep, I'm, I'm out of book. I'm a the book. I'm a book. I'm a book. I'm a book. I'm out a book. I'm a book. I'm a book. I'm a book a book. I'm a book. I'm a book. I'm a book. I'm a book. I'm a the the the the the the the to. I'm a to. I'm. I'm a the the the to. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. to. to. to. to. to. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm a to. I'm a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to. I'm to. I'm to. I'm to. I'm to. I'm to. to. to. to. to. I'm. I'm. I'm. Itoo because I read those to my child at the end of the night because I keep I'm

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