The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Young Changemakers

Episode Date: June 1, 2021

In this collection, Trevor interviews pioneering young activists and innovators Greta Thunberg, X Gonzalez and Matt Deitsch, Avi Schiffmann, Delaney Reynolds and Malala Yousafzai. Learn more about yo...ur ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:12 Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. You're rolling. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17th. The planet is the most important thing for you. Yeah, I mean, for all of of us I think it should be. Why do you think
Starting point is 00:01:52 young people are so focused on climate change now? There's a definite disconnect between older generations and younger generations when talking about the climate. Why do you think that is? I mean I I think it is because we, in a way, feel like it is more a direct threat. Others feel like I won't be alive then anyway, so screw it. But we, we actually know that these consequences will face us during our lifetime. And it is already happening now, and it will get worse. And so I think that is why so many young people especially care about this.
Starting point is 00:02:35 And of course, the awareness is not as it needs to be. It's not as much as it needs to be. People are still very unaware, it's my experience. And, so we need to continue to be, it's not as much as it needs to be. People are still very unaware, it's my experience. And so we need to continue, but you can see that among young people, the concern is bigger. What do you think people need to learn about climate change? Many people have heard of the climate warming up. Some people have a small understanding of what it means, but what do you think is lacking in the understanding of the climate warming up. Some people have a small understanding of what it means,
Starting point is 00:03:05 but what do you think is lacking in the understanding of this issue? I think pretty much everything, because I mean, we know that something is wrong, that the planet is warming because of increasing greenhouse gas emissions, and that might lead to that the ice caps will melt and the global temperature will rise and there will be more extreme weather events and so on. But they don't understand how severe this crisis actually is, and it is because they have not been informed. I mean, we are right now in the beginning of the sixth mass extinction
Starting point is 00:03:45 and people don't know these things. Up to 200 species go extinct every single day. And people don't even know that we have for a 67% chance of limiting the global temperature rise to 1.5 degrees, we had on January 1st, 2018, 420 gigatons of carbon dioxide left to emit to stay within that target. And now we are already down to less than 360. If we continue at the same emission level as now, we have less than eight and a half years until that budget is gone, according to the IPCC from the SR 15 report. And that is for a 67% chance. And um, wow.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Wow. 67% chance and we're not even hitting those targets. What do you think people could do and what do you think governments should be doing? I think people should do everything, but I think right now, if I would choose one thing, everyone would do, it will be to inform yourself and to try to understand the situation and try to push for political movement that doesn't exist because the politics needed to fix this doesn't exist today. So I think what we should do as individuals is to use the power of democracy to make our voices heard
Starting point is 00:05:26 and to make sure that the people in power actually cannot continue to ignore this. That's powerful. Wow. Do you feel a difference in the conversation traveling from Sweden to America? Is there a different feeling around climate change? I would say yes. Because here it feels like it is being discussed as something you, whether you believe in or not believe in. And... And... It is being discussed as something you, whether you believe in or not believe in. And where I come from, it's more like it's a fact.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Many people get angry when something bad happens in their world, not just in America anywhere. Many people are outraged, many people say something. Some people do something, but you continue to work at it to make change. What do you think keeps driving you? I definitely know that in the very beginning of all this, we met with a bunch of kids from Chicago, who the Peace Warriors mainly, who we are still friends with today.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And they told us about the six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six six the six the six the six the six the six the six the six the six the six the six the six today, and they told us about the six principles of nonviolence of Martin Luther Kings. And principle number five is, no, principle number four is, except suffering without retaliation for the sake of the cause to achieve the goal, which means basically, it doesn't matter what you face as an individual, the goal is much more important than anybody, which is kind of the main principle that we went to see the sit-in counters in North Carolina, and that was the methods that were used then.
Starting point is 00:07:06 It doesn't matter if somebody hits me, doesn't matter if somebody pour something over my head, try to get me off of this seat, I need to sit here because this is for everybody. And you have been attacked in multiple ways online. I mean, everyone has accused you of everything from pucoe being political puppets all the way through to crisis actors. People have said that your emotion is fake. You've forth through that. And now you have a movement that has taken you on the road.
Starting point is 00:07:31 What is this organization all about? It's all about saving lives, Trevor. It's all about creating coalitions throughout different communities around this country, so that we can come together and create a united front for change. This is way more than just Parkland. This is about the communities around this country that suffer from day-to-day gun violence and gun violence in many different forms. So every single day on this tour we've traveled 70-something stops now and every single place we go we hear
Starting point is 00:07:59 a new story of someone lost in a different form of gun violence and so it's about fighting for all of them right before it's too late and the main thing you're trying to do is get young people to register to vote and actually show up and actually show up like that's an important part why why is that the key to what you're doing because I mean people say like no we want you to show up to the to the the. But you're going like no to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to register to register to register to to to register to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the to to to to to to say, oh sure, but nobody's going to go up to you the day of the polls and say, get out there and vote, you know, like there's, we're going to try to do offers of ride sharing and stuff like that or, you know, we encourage people to say, like, you know if a million people say my vote doesn't count that's a million votes that could have either swung a district or made an impact you know in the Ohio special election it was under 2,000 votes that like was the difference between the two people right like your vote really really does
Starting point is 00:08:57 count what if it had been one vote that person's one vote would have made the difference. We saw a story where in one election it had to be decided by basically a coin flip and it's starting to show you that elections are getting closer and closer, people's votes are counting more than they ever thought before. Young people in particular haven't been good at turning up when it comes to the midterms. In this election it feels different. We're seeing research that says more and more people who are young are inclined to vote. Do you feel like gun violence and mass shootings
Starting point is 00:09:28 are a big driving factor in this? Well, young people are more educated now than they have ever been before, and young people turn out at a rate about one in five. If young people turn out in a rate of two out of five, they can swing any election that they turn out in. And so that's what it's really about is about showing that young people, if you can just convince one person in your proximity, that to vote that wasn't planning on voting, you can swing this election. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:51 And actually obtain morally just leaders. Because right now, Congress does not reflect the once and needs of the American people. Who? Who? Who? When it comes to gun issues, the the the the to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the to, to, to, the to, to, to, to, the to, the to, the, to, the, the, the, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, the, the, the, the, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, is, is, is, is, is, is.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. And, toe. And, to. And, to. And, to. issues, one thing I've noticed repeatedly is how you will be asked questions that many people in Congress don't get asked, or aren't even expected to know the answers too. You have had to, I think, immerse yourself in policy more than many politicians have
Starting point is 00:10:21 in a strange way. But what are you hoping will be achieved by people voting? What are you hoping some of the changes will be when it comes to gun reform in America? Well, when something like universal background checks is supported by over 95% of the American public and the Speaker of the House refuses to introduce a bill to be voted on, that is what we want to see change. We want these policies that are being supported with a super majority in this country like, like universal, digital, digital, digital, digital, digit. the A, digit. the A, digit. the A, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, to, to, to, to, to, th. to, thi, thi, thi, thi, and th. And, and th. And, and, and, th. And, to, to, to, and, to, to, and, and, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. And, th. And, th. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the. And, and, thi. And, and, thi. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, and, the. And, these policies that are being supported with a supermajority in this country like universal background checks, digitizing the ATF, disarming domestic abusers, violence prevention programs, and the rest of our policies are on our website, March for our lives. How we save lives, but it's mostly just about getting these policies that have nothing to do with
Starting point is 00:11:01 the Second Amendment and just have a basis in saving lives that are supported by the general public. These all poll above 65% with the general public, yet Congress decides to do absolutely nothing. And you've been hosting town halls, you've been meeting with people, you've hosted more town halls than I think some people in Congress may have actually hosted. 150 congressmen have not had a town hall in the last two years. Wow. Wow. So, you're out there. You're meeting with people who don't always agree with you.
Starting point is 00:11:33 What do you find other things they agree with you on? And is there something that you find in some way shifts a person's perspective? Or is there some way that they've shifted your perspective when you engage with people you don't agree with? Usually when people come up to us and say, I don't like what you stand for, they think that we are trying to take guns out of America or that we are against the Second Amendment. That's not true. We are a pro-Second Amendment organization. We want safety. We want safety around guns. People who are law-abiding-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-s. I I's-s-s-s-s-s-s-s. I's-s. I's-s. I's-s. I's-s. I's-s. I'm thoer-s. I'm thoerui-s. thi-s. thi-s. thi-s. thi-s. thi-s. thi-s. thi-s. thi-s. thi-s. thi-s. thi-s. thi-s. thii-s. thi-s. thi-s. thi-s. Tananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananeded-s. thi-s. thi-s. thi-s. thi-s. thi-s. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii-s. citizens and are worried about getting their guns taken away, if you're a law-abiding citizen, you have nothing to worry about. We're talking about the people who are not law-abiding citizens. If you're that conscious about it, you should
Starting point is 00:12:10 understand, you obviously do understand that guns are something that need to be held with respect and responsibility. With great power comes, great responsibility. But like that, but like that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's the their their their their their their the people thiiiauooooooooooanco-ss.aucoancoanco-auiauiauiauiauia. that that that that's that's that's true and everybody needs to hold that in their hearts and in their minds and there are a lot of people who don't and we're just trying to catch everybody up to that thought process. Right. And when people say to you, oh you kids are out there, you're trying to take the guns away. Some people say to you like, oh, do you say, oh,, or do you find sometimes you have to say we agree to disagree? We just bring them into the reality of what's going on in this country. A lot of them choose to ignore what's actually going on in communities even really near theirs. We'll be in Wisconsin and they will understand the day-to-day gun violence that happens in Milwaukee when they're in Janesville. heartbreaking to us because we need to really love our neighbors. We need to come together community by community and actually stand for each and every
Starting point is 00:13:06 life that we're losing every day. And so when... I didn't understand what's happening day-to-day, and sodler picks up a gun and shoots themselves or someone once a week for the last three years in this country. And with something like safe storage laws or mandatory trigger locks, or even like a bike lock on a gun trigger, could save countless lives in this country. And that is just common sense. Right, makes perfect sense for someone to say, oh yeah, I should report if my gun is stolen.
Starting point is 00:13:39 But in Texas where more guns are stolen than anywhere else in the country, that's not a law. You don't have to do that. But if you steal alcohol from a parent, it could be a felony. It's child endangerment. But we call it an accidental shooting. There are no accidental shootings. It's negligence. Finding great candidates to hire can be like trying to find a needle in a haystack. right skills or experience. But not with Zip Recruiter. Zip Recruiter finds amazing candidates for you fast.
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Starting point is 00:14:53 If you've been following the news during this global pandemic, then you'd know that the reported statistics have been as inconsistent as the Wi-Fi at your mama's house. The same Wi-Fi you told her ass the speed up a long time ago. But you get quarantined with your mama during a the the the thip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Zip. Z Z Z Z Zip. Z. Z. Z. Z. Z. Z. Z. Z. Z. Z. Z. Z. Z. Z. Z. Z. Z. Z. Z. Z. Z. Z. Z. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. The same Wi-Fi you told her ass to speed up a long time ago, but what you get quarantining with your mama during the pandemic? If we didn't do it, you would have had a million people, a million and a half people, maybe two million people dead. But we're going toward 50 or 60,000. It's like an auction. 100 to 200,000. It's like like the 60,000 than the 100 to 200,000. We have between 100,000 and 200,000.
Starting point is 00:15:26 It's like an auction, but there's one credible source whose numbers are trusted globally. One website tracking the coronavirus has become one of the most vital resources for people seeking accurate and updated numbers on the pandemic. NCOV 2019.live. And I scored a sit down with its creator. Wait, who the fuck are you? I'm looking for Avi Shifner. Uh, I'm afraid that's me. How old are you?
Starting point is 00:15:53 17? Are you 17 for real or just some of that Benjamin Button shit? No, I'm 17. Well, if you're the real creator of this website, Ivy, if that's your real name, it is. Then explain how you built it. Sure. The coronavirus website in particular, it works using server-side JavaScript, which means, you know, it's kind of like what PHP was, but coded in HTML and CSS. People that they have there and add it to a much larger data set and, you know that's these things called a Kron job. So I have that's that's that's that's this thing's called a Kron job, so I have that just basically how. Hey, I, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:16:26 You know computer shit. Let's move on. Most teenagers spend time making highbrow videos. This dude chose to make a website tracking a murderous disease. Why? I wanted to make it like just easy to find the information and thought it would just be helpful to some people and you know I started this you know very late December. But you knew in December? Yeah around the around the 29.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Avi spotted a crisis before our own government. Despite his superpowers, why would a teenager invest so much time on a website that doesn't have nudity? What are you trying to get out of this, Avi the MSNBC show? Because they can't swap their and no one with others. If they want to give me one, sure. Or are you trying to get into a good college? Because you'd have to do all this to get in a good college. All you have to do is lie and say that you was rowing. I mean, I already have job offers to do obvious site currently has over 600 million visitors from every country on the planet. Even Antarctica. Wait, that's a country, right? With that kind of traffic,
Starting point is 00:17:32 I know you said if you need somebody to help you sell ads. Hirard me, man. I'm a good salesman. Well, you know, I turned out eight million dollars to put advertisements on the website, but you know. But there's a, wait, wait, wait, wait, what you you you you you you you you you you you you you you th. I I I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I too. I too. I too took too took to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to th. to to th. to to th. to the. the. tell. tell. the. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. too. too. to. to. to. to. to. to. the website but you know but there's a there's a wait wait wait I thought you just said you turned out eight million dollars you had to be a dumbass to do that yeah I declined it because I didn't want pop-up ads I didn't want to be forced my keep my website running eight minute you see a million dollars you just said no hey hey hey excuse me a second, I'm one minute. What am I doing wrong with my life? He's got eight million on the table. I got nothing
Starting point is 00:18:14 brother B-fix 17. He's making all the fucking money. Meanwhile, I'm at home in a f-disc desk. I'm back, man. Sorry about that. I just think you crazy for turning it down free money. Little disrespecting. Two things I got to remember. Avi created a site that offers clarity on the effects Corona is having on the planet. And secondly, I'm a grown-ass man talking to an underage teen online.
Starting point is 00:18:42 I gotta wrap this up. So which countries are handling it better than the US? South Korea is definitely handling this way better than the entire world. I mean, they tested so much of their population so fast. I mean, they didn't have to shut down their country. Meanwhile, you know, I even had school in months. So what do you think we're gonna be looking to be to be to be to be to be to be the to be to be the to be the to be to be the to be the the to be to be the their to be their their to be their tha. to be tho. tho. thoomkooling. thi. thi. thioling. thoomoomoomoomoomoomorrow. thoomoomoomoomoomoomoomoomoomoomahahe thoomomomomom. thoing. thoing. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. t. t. te. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. t with this quarantine? Because I got to get out of this house, man. Yeah, well, I guess we'll have to wait and see it, but, you know, until there's a vaccine
Starting point is 00:19:08 and things, things will probably still be pretty weird for a while. So, until then, I'll just have to focus on the future. All right, so, you've been greatto win it all. I'm sorry I have a meeting with the United Nations supposed to be a youth ambassador. Just tell me real quick Lakers yes or no. Have a good day. Abby. So no on the Lakers. Climate change is getting worse. And if we don't meet the 1.5 degree goal set by the Paris Accord it could cost six trillion dollars in the US alone and Miami will be underwater and not in a fun way. If we go past that, the world's GDP drops by 20 percent. And the pirates of the Caribbean ride will have direct access to the Caribbean.
Starting point is 00:19:57 But what do you do if you're lazy, deadbeat, ain't shit government refuses to see the logic in these numbers? You take their assets to court, even on the local level. And I talked to one hard and veteran of the U.S. judicial system who is doing just that. I'm actually suing the state of Florida. All we want for them is to cut our carbon emissions. How old are you? I am 21 years old.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Is it a Doogie-Houser situation? I know you don't get that reference because you're 21. No, not quite. Okay, how much you suing them for? Absolutely nothing. You're suing them for nothing? What, do you play Lado for the thrill of the game? Do you go to Vegas just for the weather? So it's kind of like we're suing thing thing thing thing thing thing thing th th th th th th th th th th th th th to to to th to to th to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tooing, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the.e. theu.e. the theu.sueu.sueu.sueue.sueaue. the the the the theoooooooooooooooooome. the environment. Could I recommend one thing? Sue to get enough money to buy a submarine.
Starting point is 00:20:53 We want them to spend the money on the environment. So we know that it's going to cost us as a society trillions of dollars. But if we continue to wait, it's only going to be more expensive in the future to pay for those solutions that we need. For example, the property value of the land that's at risk from five feet of sea level rise is about 27 billion dollars. And for those following along, that's a quarter Jeff Bezos. Don't get your hopes up, you know, because there's a chance that Florida isn't going to change. Florida is still going to be on your couch, eating on your food while you're at work, asking to borrow your car. Why do you need a car, Florida? You don't have a job. Yeah, so to be candid, if there's no change, if we don't have to do our climate change, if Florida to try and to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the the the the the the the tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo toa toa to to to to to to to to solve our climate change crisis. Florida faces extinction. On the one hand, if Florida is extinct, then we wouldn't have to deal with Florida anymore.
Starting point is 00:21:49 But then again, Florida's part of Earth. And even though it's been hard on us this year, we should still do something to save it instead of nothing. Finding great candidates to hire can be like trying to find a needle in a haystack. You might get a lot of resumes, but not enough candidates with the right skills or experience. But not with Zip Recruiter. Zip Recruiter finds amazing candidates for you fast. And right now you can try it for free, Zip Recruiters' powerful matching technology starts showing you qualified people for it, and you can use Zip Recruiter's pre-written invite to apply message to personally reach out to your favorite candidates and encourage them to apply sooner. Ditch the other hiring sites and let Zip Recruiter
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Starting point is 00:23:14 Like, none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. to 60 minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. I think one of the reasons people are so drawn to you and your story is not just because of the journey you've been on, but because of the focus you bring to other people's journeys. And this book, We Are Displaced, is another example of that. My journey and stories from refugee girls around the world.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Why did you feel the need to include other stories other than your own? I mean, your story is really so amazing. Why bring in others? Yeah, people already know about my story. And displacement was part of my life in Pakistan and then also moving to the UK. But I have met girls around the world who have been displaced, who have lost their homes. And, and often, their their, and often, their, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why their their their, why their, why their, why their, why their, why their, why thi, why their, why thi, why their, why their, why their, why their, why their, why their, why their, why their, why their, why their, why their, why their, why their, why their, why their, why their, why their, why their, why their, why their, why their, why their, why their, why their, why their, why their, why their, why their, their, thi. thiiiiaugh, thi, thi, thi. thi. thiii. thiia. their, why their, why their, why their, why their, the UK. But I have met girls around the world who have been displaced, who have lost their homes, and often people talk about refugees and immigrants in numbers and in figures, and we hear about refugees, but we never hear from refugees. Right. And for me it was so important that we hear from these
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Starting point is 00:25:06 and immigrants in our own community. And one of the stories I have shared is of this amazing young woman who is reaching out to immigrants in our community, helping them going to the grocery shop or getting their education or applying to university. So it's actually going out there and doing it yourself, but also listening to the girl stories that are out out.................. I, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, their, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thi... And, thi. And, thi. And, they. And, thi. And, too, too, tooes. And, tooes. And, tooes. And, their, their, they. And, their the girls' stories that are out there, reading this work is one opportunity to hear from these gulls, and I think this is a way for us to hear from them.
Starting point is 00:25:36 And I think what is inspiring is that people are interested in these stories and they want to know more and I've already seen that. So, yeah. When you look at the story of refugees around the world, one thing that seems consistent is being a refugee is being a refugee, being a woman or a girl who is a refugee, exponentially increases how difficult that journey is. It's so much more precarious, it's a really dangerous position to be in as a young girl. What do you think some of the biggest misconceptions are about girls who are
Starting point is 00:26:10 refugees or refugees in general around the world? I think the first thing is that becoming a refugee is never their first choice. This is the last choice and this is often the only choice that they have, is to leave their homes for their safety, for their better future, because they have lost many things in their lives. And you know, one of the stories that I have mentioned is of Anna Lisa from Guatemala who lost her parents, she became orphan at the age of 15 and had to cross the U.S. border and go through so many difficulties and you know the fear and in this, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the US border and go through so many difficulties and you know the fear and in this sense that you go through where you feel like you're not safe and like somebody could kidnap you or somebody could put you in jail like all that you have to go through is not an easy thing when you're
Starting point is 00:26:56 only 15 years old who have lost their parents and so it just reminds us of the courage that these people have but also the fact that you know, we need to look at it from a more human eye, from a human angle, and understand what would we be in a situation, how would we react in such a situation, what would we personally be when we also face the same kind of conflicts or wars or other things that force us to leave our homes. You recently spoke in Australia and you spoke out against their policy of turning away boats of refugees that had landed on their shores or had come close to their shores. If you were trying to convince somebody who was anti-immigrant or anti-refugee, have you
Starting point is 00:27:41 found anything that you can say to them that shifts them or do you find a way that you can speak to people to try and help them see the humanity in this plight? Well, I've been trying it for a while and I think it is difficult to convince people, but I think for me, the best way to know about it is, I think oftentimes people do not know enough. They have not met a refugee person, they have not talked to a refugee girl and what she has gone through. So I think it's important for people to actually go and talk to people. That's the best way to integrate and my father o'clock, and, their taur. And my father often says's a Muslim and talk to them. So I think talking to people is important, but also go and look for facts and figures
Starting point is 00:28:28 of how immigrants and refugees have contributed to the global economies and how, you know, for instance, take the US, how refugees and immigrants have built this country at the level that it is right now. And also just look at the human side of why people leave their homes. And it is not that simple. It is never their first choice. And it is often the difficulties that they face that pushed them out of their houses. And for me personally, when we were leaving Swat Valley, our hometown, that was because
Starting point is 00:29:00 there was, it was not safe to stay there. Our lives were at risk. And we did not know where we were going. We did not know for how long, but we knew that we could not stay there. There was no more choice but to leave our homes. Right. One of the reasons to buy this book is because of the stories that are truly amazing and w written.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Another reason is because the proceeds go to an amazing cause, and that is to your foundation, which focuses on education. Why did you specifically choose that? Why is the Malala fund specifically going after education of all the things that you could have done? Well, firstly, because I remember the time when my own education was banned by his extremist group remember the time when my own education was banned by his extremist
Starting point is 00:29:45 group called the Taliban. And I remember waking up, I think 10 years ago, exactly 10 years ago. It was the month of January 2009, and I woke up one morning and Gull the education was completely banned and Nogel was allowed to go to school. And I realized that my future was taken away from me. My dreams were taken away from me. My dreams were taken away from me. I was just limited to the house. I could not go and learn. I could not go in study. I could not go and become a doctor or a teacher or an engineer. And for many girls,
Starting point is 00:30:14 the only way towards empowerment is learning and is getting their education, doing a job and then standing on their own two feet. So for me, education is crucial for every girl's empowerment. But also the fact that if half of the population of the world does not get education, if they are not empowered, then the world is losing. We all are losing. So education is crucial for me, especially the education of women. Because when we educate women, it allows us to grow economies. Educating all girls up to secondary level would add up to $30 trillion to their,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, to to to women, to women, to women, to women, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to women, to women, to women, to women,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, to to to theoliiioluile, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, their their their to their to economies. Educating all girls up to secondary level would add up to 30 trillion dollars to the world economy. It helps us to tackle climate change. It helps us reduce poverty, fight against early child marriages, the cultural norms and traditions that are out there that are
Starting point is 00:30:57 discriminating women. It has so many advantages and I was one of the victims and I know that it is crucial for all girls to go and learn and also the benefits that education brings to the world as well. And refugees, children's education is equally important, especially the young girls who often time in the refugee camps they are forced to get married. For instance in Lebanon, like 41 percent of the recedin refugee girls get married before the age of 18.
Starting point is 00:31:28 So that's why we started Malala Fund, and the work is focused on the education of gulls, especially complete education, not just primary, but complete, primary and secondary education, safe and quality education to ensure that. And for that, we invest in local leaders and local educators. And for instance, like in Lebanon, one of our activists is going out and talking to the girls' parents and the local religious leaders in convincing them to send their daughters
Starting point is 00:31:59 to school. One of our activists is using this digital device that works in the absence of electricity and internet to educate girls in the refugee camps. In Brazil we have activists in Pakistan and we have activists who are reaching out and doing work at the local level. Watch the Daily Show, weeknights at 11th, 10 Central on Comedy Central and stream full episodes anytime on Paramount Plus. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it.
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