The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Zoya Akhtar On Netflix's "The Archies" | Vir Das on “Landing” & Demonstrating Love with Laughter

Episode Date: December 16, 2023

Kal Penn is back guest hosting The Daily Show this week! He interviews director Zoya Akhtar to learn about her Indian film adaptation of "The Archies" for Netflix and how she infuses Indian culture into her work. Plus, International Emmy award winning comedian and actor, Vir Das, comes to the show and shares how Kal inspred him to attend college and his 33-country stand-up tour, "Mind Fool."See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, The Weekly Show, coming out every Thursday. We're going to be talking about the election, earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. You're listening to Comedy Central. My guest tonight is a filmmaker and a screenwriter who directed and co-wrote the Archies on Netflix.

Please welcome Zoya Uctor. Wow. It's a lot. It's a lot of wooing. Yeah. And I know why. You are you are one of you are one of the top five. It's a lot of wooing. Yeah. And I know why you are, you are one of, one of the top five. It's a lot of wooing. And I know why. You are one of the top five, if not like the top director coming out of India right now, which is no small feat given how much incredible talent there is between Bollywood and the

streaming platforms and independent cinema. I'm also biased. And the South cinema, of course. I sort of, I mean, you're in America, so everybody views it as the whole subcontinent. But I think, I'm biased because we've also been friends for years. You've had me over to your home for dinner. Do you remember that night? Yes, I do.

Of course I do. Are we going to share that night? What do you remember about that my dog almost killed himself. My dog attacked the brie from your plate. Yes, I did have brie on my play. It was very, and then you had to like. And he choked. And then I was like, my dog's gonna die, my dog's gonna die,

boogie's gonna die. And it was like, Calpin was staring at what's going on? And then my assistant flipped him around and he was. But not before he like inadvertently bit you right and then you had to call your vet to be like do I need rabies injections? No he was like freaking out because he was choking. I didn't say he bit you on purpose. Yeah it was it was a chaotic Mumbai night. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean I feel like that goes hand in hand with going to Mumbai. It's like beautiful chaos that will follow you everywhere.

The Bollywood press has always been very kind to me. They're also like super dramatic, which I secretly love. Are you talking about the Baps? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And there remember like, just going like this. And there was a couch behind me. And this guy goes, please do some pose. So I was like, what kind of pose you want me to do? Let's just light out like this.

And I'm like, bro, I can't, he goes,that. So like, do you have any really good Bollywood paparazzi stories? Yeah. I mean, they are, they are, they're actually really swate. You know what I mean? They're not, they're not that invasive in that sense. But they will say very random things. Like, I'll get off a car and they'll be like, how can, this is my length. This is it. I can't give you anymore. So it's stuff like that.

But they are, like, I've, I've actually been at an event where I fell down. And I was like, please don't put this out. And they were like, we won't. And they didn't. Awesome. So yeah, they are, they are very, I mean, look, anyone who refers to Nick Jonas as Jijaji is doing well, I think, in our book. A resume as diverse as yours, I'm curious what drew you to an adaptation of a comic like

the Archie's. I mean, Netflix offered it to me and I grew up. And I grew up. That's a good start. Pretty baller response, by the way. That's great. No, I grew up. I mean, it's crazy that something so fundamentally American was also fundamentally a part of an urban Indian kids' childhood. And I grew up in the 80s and India wasn't liberalized at that time and globalized. So there was, we didn't have access to as much stuff that we do today. And Archie was one of the few things that everybody read and it was our portal the portal. thals. It was our thals. It's thals. It's that's that's thals. It's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. they they they they. they they. they. their their their their their their their their their their they. their their their thea. that's their thi. the much stuff that we do today. And Archie was one of the few things

that everybody read and it was our portal to this country. So everybody it was like and we were eight and 10 and we just wanted this teenage life in this fictional place called Riverdale and everybody grew up thinking that's America and then I mean obviously then we grew up and realized that's not America but when it came to me it was a it was th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. the th. th. the th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi the thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. It was t. tod. today. today. today. te. today. te. today. today te. today today today today was today today te I mean, obviously, then we grew up and realized that's not America. But when it came to me, it was also at a time when I thought that it would be nice to do something like a return to innocence, you know, and it was kind of beautiful that it came to India because it was so special, and they wanted the industry in India to make it for the world. And yeah, I just couldn't say no. It was also like something to go back to,

less is more time. Yeah. Well, it's a beautiful film. I highly recommend it. One of my favorite scenes was between Dilton and Reggie. It's this very special scene about friendship. their tie. I don't want to ruin the whole thing, but where, you know, Dilton's character is sort of scared to come out to his friends and the friendship with Reggie is kind of codified.

I guess two questions for you on that. What made you want to write a scene like that? And then part of the reason to ask that is, you know, my partner, Josh and I and I'm, their tr-o'nigh. You know, why and how do you infuse these inclusive stories in India right now? I mean, stories are very important. And I mean, India has a very, very vibrant LGBT community. And, uh, 2018 homosexuality was decriminalized. And there's been so much change and real positive change with that, and it's going to keep

evolving. And part of that evolution is storytelling and filmmaking. And somewhere feel it's not just like oh we're representing something but you are you're putting people into you're taking someone and putting them in someone else's shoes you know you're you're humanizing the other you're you're just making people come closer like a stories travel and stories stay longer and I don't know they just they move you and shift you and I think I'm lucky to be part of that community that that th th th th you like you like you th you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're just you're just just just just just just just just just just th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to thi to to thi to thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi and I don't know they just they move you and shift you and I think it's I'm lucky to be part of that community that can like that can affect some kind of evolution or change and represent and be there and you know say how I feel.

Your uh. Yeah. Thank you. Very sweet but also the fact that inclusivity is obviously noticed and people love it especially when it's when it's such a great form of, included in such a great form of storytelling. You worked with your dad and your brother on this movie. Both of them are multi-hyphenets. I am terrified at the prospect of working with my parents on anything, mostly because when I did Van Wilder, way back in the day with Ryan Reynolds, I showed my mom the script and

she screamed, this is pornography. Because there was one nude scene in it, which wasn't me that time. But I'm curious, what, you know, what was it like working with your daddy or brother? I mean, it's not, this is like my fifth film that they are on, th....... th. th. th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. I, th. I, th. I'm, th. th. th. th. thi, thi, th. I'm, th. th. I, th. th. th. I, the th. I, th. I, the, the, the, the, I, the, the, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th like my fifth film that they are on. They work on my work in some capacity or the other, and it's safe and also the most dangerous because, I mean, it's an honest space, so you'll get the truth, but that's dangerous sometimes. Because that leads to fights at the dinner table. But they're both incredibly talented men, and I am supremely lucky to have that resource, as is my mother, thamamam other, thamamam other, thamam other, tham other, tham, tham, thiiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to and I am supremely lucky to have that resource, as is my mother, she's a writer as well. So between the four, we all write.

So it's pretty manic. Dinner is manic. Yeah. Sounds like you can't like leave your work at home. No. Last couple of questions I just asked because I'm a huge Bollywood fan. You've worked in all these different mediums, like top three favorite people that you would want to work with again.

Again. Or I guess for the first time. Okay, again, let me just take again. Again, let me just take again. It'll be safer, yeah. I think, I'm going to with him again, Farhan, Akhtar. I haven't worked with him. And Ranvir, Singh. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm going for three of them in a movie. I mean, could you do four? I mean, I'm available. Happen you. Would you, by the way, just, this is Let's make that happen. That would be really fun. It will be huge. I mean I meant it as a half joke, but if we're serious we should talk backstage. That's all. Okay. All right, I'm down for this. Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, The Weekly Show, coming out every Thursday. We're going to be talking about the election, earnings calls.

What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts, but how many of them come out on Thursday? Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. My guest tonight is a comedian and actor. He just won an international Emmy for his Netflix stand-up special landing. Please welcome VIRDAS! Man, you know, hey brother. All right. Oh,

Man, we clearly have some fans here. Congratulations on the International Emmy. Thank you. I, uh, it is on sale, if anyone's interested. What was that like? It was surreal, you know, to, what two things. Number one, it was just kind of nice to have that many people listen to an Indian story from across the world. That was very nice.

It was an honor. And then the first thought was, how the hell do I get this through JFK? Because it is it is it is it is it is very it is very very it is very the th the th is very it is very it is very th. It is very th. It is very th. It is very th. It is very th. It is very th. It is very th. It is very th. It is very thi. It is very tho. tho. thi. thi. thi. tho. tho. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi. thi. too. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's a th. It's a th. th. the. the. the. the. the. too. too. too. too. too. to. to. to to to toe. to to th. th. th hell do I get this through JFK? Because it is very sharp, and you can murder someone with an international Emmy, which doesn't happen at the afterparty. It's just, and I'm typically used to being very nervous at JFK anyway. Sure, yeah. So I just, and when you have that statue with like the late, it's like I've metaphorically kidnapped a white lady. So, the guy was just like what's in the international, the international, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's an in a the international, it's an international, it's an international, it's an international, it's an international, it's an international, it's an international, it's an international, it's an international, it's an international, it's an international, it's an international, it. So the guy was just like, what's in the bag? And I was like, it's an international Emmy.

And the guy at TSA was like, oh, word. And I was like, OK, precipitation. Because that's a word. I'm kidding. That didn't happen before the New Yorker fact checks me. Yeah. It's a daily show. Nobody's going to fact. That's fine. All the joke. So look, this win was special, I assume, because based on your stand-up special, you thought

at a point that your career was over, you were called a terrorist, there were criminal charges that were filed against you for the 20-21 poem, two India. That was the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi th, thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin thin, thi, thi, thi, thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thee. thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, two India's. That was like a gripping reflective account of political and social complexity in India. I have to be honest, when I saw both of those, both the poem and the special, my only reaction was this is a brother who loves his country and just wants to make it better through conversation and through art, but not everybody had that reaction. So talk me through sort of that process and what happened. Well, I mean, the central theme of the special, I think, is that love is never yelled, love is felt. And that includes love for your country, where it's never sort of a loud proclamation,

it's kind of a quiet demonstration, and I don't think there's a better demonstration of love than laughter. And I think that, you know, if that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's a that's a that's a better that's a better that's a better that's a better that's a better that's a better that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their.... their their their their that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's their And I think that, you know, if you love someone you want to make them laugh and if they love you they laugh back and that goes for your country too, but I was at the center of this controversy and I'm a small fish so I'm not accustomed to that kind of limelight and I think in America for instance if you're a big fish and you're in a controversy, there are options, right so you can go on Oprah. But then you lose your bodyguards. You could blame it on antibiotics, which doesn't work in India,

because we know a lot about antibiotics anyway. Amoxicillin doesn't cause courage. Or you could, if you know Jada Pinkett Smith's publicist, I guess she is the internet right now. I think she's both a wife and Wi-Fi, and I didn't have any of those options. So you kind of fall in love with your job all over again. I was like, okay, I will never lianize myself. I will never victimize myself or take feedback, head down. And the first thing I do will write a joke about it that, she that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, she is, she is, she is, she is, she is, she is, thi, she is thi, she is thi, she is the the the the internet is is the internet is the internet is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, she is is, she is, she is, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. And the first thing I do will write a will be I'll write a joke about it that hopefully makes both sides laugh and four months later this is what I wrote I

wrote down saying I was on the BBC home page and there was a big headline that said comedian polarizes the nation. Do you know how badly you have to fuck up before the British say... I said, do you know how badly you have to fuck up before the British say that you divided India? Uh, thank you. Thank you. But what happens then? The point I'm making is a bad day in your life turns into laughter.

And I think happiness blooms when it's watched. And so you get to watch people be happy because of that. And then that turns into a gold statue someday. And you're kind of reminded that comedy, this job, on its best take and sometimes be alchemy. And it's kind of nice. That's awesome. That's very well said.

The little British thing reminded me, you know, my grandparents were secular freedom fighters. And so those were the stories that we heard growing up as kids and that obviously influenced me later in life. Recently, Prime Minister Modi was hosted by President Biden and during that visit a lot of artists in the South Asian American space were having conversations about our counterparts in India and free speech, free speech and comedy, artistic expression. And I'm curious how you've managed to kind of navigate that space.

Well, look, I mean, on one day, our Prime Minister had dinner with Biden. And the next day, Trevor Noah had dinner with Duolipa. And I wasn't invited to either of those events. So, I do think th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. And thi. And, and thi. And, and to to to to to to toe. And, and toe. And, and toe. And, and toe. And, and toe. And, and toe. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, and, toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, to. And, th wasn't invited to either of those events so I do think if you get to travel the world as much as I do you start to think of freedom of speech which is the big conversation around the world less locally and more emotionally and I think right now it's you know whether you're in the Middle East or whether you're in India whether you're in the West the conversation is freedom of speech and I think it's, you know, whether you're in the Middle East or whether you're in India, whether you're in the West, the conversation is freedom of speech. And I think it's, yes, curtailed by authorities at different levels in different places, but

more curtailed by the people around you. You know, we live in this world where you see somebody is just a box, and you could, you try and control their speech as well for their ideas. And so sometimes we blame it on these larger things above us, but really we're submitting to something scary inside us. And if we can fight that primal urge to lash out at each other, I think then the world just gets better, freedom of speech-wise. Like here's how I think freedom of speech works. It's like you and me are on a train together, right? And somewhere in the corner is a guy who has his dick out, right? Which guy?

It's New York, so 50% of the compartment, yeah. But you and I can't do anything about the guy with his dick out. I'm just talking to see if you see it too. And I think that's what freedom of speech is. I just need to know that you also that you th that you th th th that you the the th th th th th you th tho tho tho the tho tho tho the tho tho thi thi thi thi tho to thi tho thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thiou. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to that to that that's toeeea. toea. that's that's that's that's that's that's thi. thi. thi. thi. th it too. Yeah. And I think that's what freedom of speech is. I just need to know that you also see the dick. I just, I have to give you so much props for this, because this could have gone in two different directions. This could have ended up with like the New York Times,

Bombay times about all of them just writing about some serious political conversation and instead it's like Kalpen and Verdas are on a train with a dude whose dick is out. There you. And that's, that's there. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. Really just elevating the humor in it. I forgive you flowers though.

Can I take a second to give you flowers if that's okay? Yes. Okay. So the reason that many many many many many many many many saw you be the first Indian brown man be edgy and cool and funny in American. So yeah. So, what? Thank you. Thank you. So, I would like to thank you for ruining so many lives. Because I came to college in America

because I saw Van Wilde. And then I went to college in Galesburg, Illinois. And I'm like, where the fc. Is this college where people sleep with the Indian guys? CalPen is a liar. And just by the way, I think you know this. Statistically, this is the sexiest accent in the world, all right? I'm just saying, right? At this given moment, more women are having sex with this accent than any other accent in the world. All right, so in your face, France, and

also you then do Harold and Kumar, where you go and get cheeseburgers and at the night, at the end of the night, you make up with your parents. Do you know what would happen if I told my parents, I spent the whole night looking for beef? Harold would go to White Castle. Kumar would have an arranged marriage the next week. So, but flowers. Well, thanks, brother, thank you. And I have to say, you know, there, there, there, there, there, there, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to, to, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, they... they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the, you, the, the the the the the the the, the the too, too, too, too, too, too, too, thanks brother thank you and I have to say the you know there

were many very talented actors who came before me who didn't have the same opportunities I did who also went to drama school who also worked their butts off and so I appreciate those those those accolades and I share it with them you know. Before we let you go I also I want to know about your tour it's a 33 country tour. A. I want want to want to want to to I I I I I I I I I want the I want th I want th I want th I want th I want to th I want th I want to to th I want to to to to to their to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. I their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their theour. It's a 33 country tour. It is. A, I want to know where you're going in the new tour. But then B, are there bits that don't translate in some countries that people just don't find funny? Do you have to curate it for each audience? No.

I think now it's kind of because of, but I go on that journey with him. Why can't I take you to Mumbai? Why can't I take you to Delhi? And if you've never been, come over and at the end of the night, whether you're Indian or not, you'll be Indian. You know, so come to my show. I'm going to be playing Carnegie Hall. I think I'll be the first Indian comic to do it. All right. Oh, right. And we're doing the Kennedy Center and the Chicago Theater and a bunch of theaters in January. I'm looking forward to it. It's large.

You know. Congratulations. I can't wait to check out the tour. You're developing a comedy with my buddy Andy Sandberg. Yes. Can you tell us about it? I can. OK. I wanted to be in a TV show that was a model and immigration story. But I wanted it, because immigrants will always come over and do sensible stuff in America. Right?

And why take a 29-hour flight if you're going to do something sensible when you land? So I wanted to make the show where Americans and Indians sit on a sofa and watch together, but Indians get to come over and be outrageous and ludicrous and enjoy America. So my show is called Country Eastern and it's about me as a brown bearded Indian man who becomes a country music single in Memphis, Tennessee. Yes. Yes. I'm a huge country music fan, so that makes me very excited. On your shows, you always end asking people in your audience what's the one thing you want to say to the world. Why do you do that? I just think it's so interesting.

I have, I think one of the smartest crowds in comedy, and I say that to get their money. I just do it. I think I. I. I. I. I th I th I th I th I think I th I think I think I think I think a think a thi I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. I thi thi. thi. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi thi. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. That's thi. thi. thi. thi. I thiaa. I thia. I thiaaa. I that's that's thiaa. I thia. I thia. I thi a thi a thi get their money. I just do it. I think a lot of comedy these days becomes about look at me and look at my jokes and look at my pathos and my ethos. But, you know, the audience is an equally loud voice as you do, and I think there's no better teacher than their laughter and their silence. So sometimes I just like to put the camera on them and say look at who I have the privilege the privilege to to to to to to to to to the privilege to to to get to get to get to get their their their their to get their to get their silence. So sometimes I just like to put the camera on them and say, look at who I have the privilege of performing for. And some of it is great, and some of it is what it is. But I think it's valuable to share your platform with your audience sometimes. That's the only reason I do it.

Do you still tour with Jehu Beach Sand? OK, so in the special I have some Indian soil. Look, I'm a brown man with a beard, so traveling with a bag full of dust. Internationally doesn't work out well for me, Innolly, but I, uh... I, I try to. Look, my shows are like this big reunion. You know, if you're not from India, you get integrated into India. If you're Indian, you sometimes haven't been in a room full of Indians in a really long

time. Do you know how many people hook up at my shows? Like, this is the best fucking ad ever that you're having. Right? I'm like Sima Auntie with a jawline, all right? Like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,? That's who I am, right? Like, I have couples that are formed at my shows. So it's this big India's celebration. It's kind of cool.

Man, that's awesome. Thank you so much for coming. Veer will be performing his mindful world tour to Carnegie Hall on January, 19th with more stops in the US in January and February. Birdas, everyone. Explore more shows from the Daily Show podcast universe by searching The Daily Show, wherever you get your podcast. Watch the Daily Show weeknights at 11, 10 Central on Comedy Central and stream full episodes anytime on Fairmount Plus.

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