The Daily Signal - #330: Chip and Joanna Gaines Should Be Allowed to Have as Many Kids as They Want

Episode Date: November 30, 2018

Glamour magazine announces its women of the year--and surprise, surprise, not a single woman on the list is on the right. You may have heard that Ben and Jerry's has released a new anti-Trump ice cream, but did you know they're also supporting the Women's March financially, despite the group's concerning ties with Louis Farrakhan, known for anti-Semitic comments? Plus: One writer at a liberal feminist site is annoyed with Chip Gaines saying he'd like a sixth kid. Kelsey Harkness and Bre Payton join us, for the first time bringing their "Problematic Women" segment to our podcast.We also cover these stories:--The alleged shooter in the tragic massacre in the Pittsburgh Tree of Life synagogue, which left 11 dead, is being charged on 44 counts.--Early reports show big economic gains in October. According to ADP and Moody’s Analytics, private payrolls grew by 227,000 jobs.--Janet Yellen, who until recently served as chair of the Federal Reserve, expressed concern about the level of debt the U.S. is taking on, calling it “unsustainable.”The Daily Signal podcast is available on Ricochet, iTunes, SoundCloud, Google Play, or Stitcher. All of our podcasts can be found at DailySignal.com/podcasts. If you like what you hear, please leave a review. You can also leave us a message at 202-608-6205 or write us at [e-mail]. Enjoy the show! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is the Daily Signal podcast for Thursday, November 1st. I'm Daniel Davis. And I'm Kate Trinko. Today we're going to start a new segment on our Daily Signal podcast, a weekly check-in with problematic women to discuss what conservative women think on the issues of the day. Today we'll be joined by Kelsey Harkness and Breep Hayden and we'll chat about Ben and Jerry's new alliance with the Women's March and a liberal getting mad at Chip Gaines for saying he'd like a six child.

But first we'll cover a few of the top headlines. President Trump continues to speak out against the migrant caravan, winding its way through Mexico, stating in a tweet Wednesday, our military is being mobilized at the southern border. Many more troops coming. We will not let these caravans, which are also made up of some very bad thugs and gang members, into the U.S. Our border is sacred, must come in legally. Turn around. White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders appeared on Fox and Friends Wednesday and said,

Mexico has stepped up in an unprecedented way. Well, President Trump continues to make the case against birthright citizenship, and on Wednesday he pulled a fast one on former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. In a tweet, he said, quote, Harry Reid was right in 1993 before he and the Democrats went insane and started with the open borders, which brings massive crime stuff. End quote. The former senator was quick to hit back, saying,

in 1993, around the time Donald Trump was gobble, up tax-free inheritance money from his wealthy father and driving several companies into bankruptcy, I made a mistake, end quote. And it was at that point that President Trump posted a clip on Twitter from one of Harry Reid's floor speeches in 1993. If making it easy to be an illegal alien isn't enough, how about offering a reward for being an illegal immigrant? No same country would do that, right? Guess again? If you break our laws by entering this country without permission and give birth to a child,

we reward that child with U.S. citizenship and guarantee of full access to all public and social services this society provides. And that's a lot of services. Is it any wonder that two-thirds of the babies born at taxpayer expense of country-county-run hospitals in Los Angeles are born to illegal alien mothers? shooter in the tragic massacre at the Pittsburgh Tree of Life Synagogue, which left 11 dead, is being charged on 44 counts after a federal grand jury convened. Attorney General Jeff Sessions said in a statement, these alleged crimes are incomprehensibly evil and utterly repugnant to the values of this nation. Therefore, this case is not only important to the victims and their loved ones, but to the city of Pittsburgh and the entire nation. Speaking in Ohio Wednesday, Vice President

Mike Pence said, as President Trump and I have made clear, what happened was not just criminal. It was evil. And we will never allow violence or anti-Semitism to take hold in the United States. Well, early reports show big economic gains in October. According to ADP and Moody's analytics, private payrolls grew by 227,000 jobs. That's up by 9,000 from September. The vast majority of those jobs came in the services sector, which added 187,000. thousand. Meanwhile, construction and manufacturing each added 17,000. The Labor Department will deliver its official count on Friday. Immigration numbers for 2016 are virtually tied with 1999, formerly the year with the most immigration. That's according to the Center for Immigration Studies,

which just released a new analysis. In 2016, the U.S. had 1.75 million immigrants. That number includes both legal and illegal immigrants. Well, Janet Yellen, who until recently served as chair of the Federal Reserve, expressed concern about the level of debt the U.S. is taking on, calling it unsustainable. She said, quote, if I had a magic wand, I would raise taxes and cut retirement spending. She noted the debt will only grow further as more baby boomers retire, and Social Security and Medicare face greater and greater payments. The U.S. ran a deficit of $778 billion for fiscal year 2018,

surpassing $21 trillion in debt. CNN's Don Lemon made some interesting comments about the cause of terrorism. Listen to what he had to say. You have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right. And we have to start doing something about them. There is no travel ban on them. There is no ban on, you know, they have the Muslim ban.

There is no white guy ban. So what do we do about that? Well, Kanye West's political life took a puzzling turn on Tuesday. The rapper blew up Twitter when he posted, quote, My eyes are now wide open and I now realize I've been used to spread messages I don't believe in. I am distancing myself from politics and completely focusing on being creative, end quote. Now, TMZ later confirmed that Kanye was not referring to Trump there. And just before that tweet, he had spoken about Candace Owens,

a prominent black conservative who had been increasingly involved with Kanye West on political matters. She had just launched a new movement called Blegzit, which she hopes will encourage African Americans to leave the Democratic Party. And rumor had it that Kanye West was involved. But on Twitter, Kanye distanced himself from Blegzit, saying, quote, I introduced Candace to the person who made the logo, and they didn't want their name on it, so she used mine. I never wanted any association with Blegzit. I have nothing to do with it, end quote. While all eyes then turned to Candace Owens, who issued a public statement and apology,

quote, if I had to imagine what it would feel like to have a bullet pierced my heart, it would be exactly like the moment I learned Kanye told the world he felt I had used him. I wouldn't wish the way I felt last night upon my worst enemy. I never once said that Kanye designed the t-shirts for Blegsit. This is a lie that seems to have made its way around the world, a lie I would like to again correct for the record. Kanye was completely right to feel used. in that regard. And as I have done personally, I would like to publicly apologize to him

for any undue stress or pain. The effort to correct that rumor has caused him, his business relationships, or his family. He simply never designed them, end quote. Well, a lot of conservatives had really hoped that Kanye would become a leading conservative voice, though there were always folks like Ben Shapiro who warned that Kanye is not a conservative and hadn't demonstrated conservative ideas. And I think he put it best on Wednesday, live by the Kanye, die by the Kanye. Next up, I'll host our first discussion with the problematic women. Do conversations about the Supreme Court leave you scratching your head? Then subscribe to SCOTUS 101, a podcast breaking down the cases, personalities, and gossip at the Supreme Court.

Okay, so as I mentioned in the introduction, we're going to start having a weekly check-in with the problematic women, the Daily Signals crew, that focuses on feminism, for conservatives. Joining us today is Kelsey Harkness, a senior news producer at The Daily Signal, and Brie Payton, a staff writer for the Federalist, and good friend of the Daily Signal. So, our first topic is ice cream, but not in the good way.

Ben and Jerry's, that woke Vermont company, is out with a new flavor. Pecan resist. Get it? Anyway, the company says, quote, alongside all those nutty chunks, this pint packs a powerful message under its lid together we can build a more just and equitable tomorrow. We can peacefully resist the Trump administration's regressive and discriminatory policies

and build a future that values inclusivity, equality, and justice for people of color, women, and the LGBTQ community refugees and immigrants, end quote. Kelsey, you wrote for the Daily Signal about this new flavors, problematic fundraising. Can you please share that with us? Yeah, so when you first hear about this, you're probably like, Why is this news every other day under the Trump administration? We have quote unquote woke companies partnering and supporting through fundraising far left activist groups like the Women's March. But I found this story particularly concerning giving the timing of Ben and Jerry's decision to partner with the Women's March. So for months, if not years since the Women's March existed,

conservatives and really anyone who knows who this character is have voiced serious concern about the founder's ties to an anti-Semite Louise Farrakhan. And you mean the founder of the Women's March's ties, right? Yes. Sorry, did I say that wrong? No, no, no, no, just the founder. Well, so there's four founders of the Women's March. Three of the four have ties to this man who, most, recently compared Jewish people to termites. He has a very awful track record when it comes to his

rhetoric regarding Jews. It's not just problematic. It's sickening. It's disgusting. It's racist. And to see Ben and Jerry's announce this new exciting partnership with the women's march just days after what's been called the most deadliest, the deadliest hate crime against American Jews in our history, I think is really awful. I wrote about it in The Daily Signal. And part of what is most, I guess, surprising about this is that our friends over at IJR asked, they asked Ben and Jerry's about these problematic ties to this anti-Semite. And their response completely watered down any of those concerns.

So do you want me to read it? Yeah. So this was their response when specifically asked about the women's marches problematic ties to an anti-Semite, an open anti-Semite. We're comfortable with the idea that people and the causes we partner with may have a point of view different. from our own on some issues. They can be controversial just as we can. Linda, who's one of the founders, may not agree with everything we've done, but the work that she has done to promote women's rights as co-chair of the Women's March is undeniably important, and we are proud to join her in that effort. So, in my opinion, dismissing anti-Semitism as, quote, a point of view different from our own, unquote,

is incredibly insulting to the 11 people who just lost their lives over the weekend. And describing it as simply controversial is also insulting. Being, being racist against Jewish people is not just controversial. We shouldn't legitimize it. Calling something controversial is almost legitimizing it as if this is an opinion that a controversial bill or something like that. This isn't just controversial. This is racist. And I think Ben and Jerry should be held accountable. I think what's most frustrating to me in all of this is the standard that we're seeing, right? As soon as this attack happened over the weekend in Pittsburgh, 11 people shot and killed in a synagogue, the blame was immediately thrown on Donald Trump. The

blame was immediately thrown on, you know, rhetoric coming from his mouth and different things like that and his supporters just last, or on Monday night, CNN's Don Lemon said that the biggest terroristic threat to this country are white men who are being radicalized in his words to the right because of Donald Trump, right? That was immediately where the blame was cast. That was immediately where it went. And then here we have individuals who are partnering with an open anti-Semitic person whose rhetoric is, if you're going to play that game of whose rhetoric is more closely tied to this,

clearly, Lewis Farrakhan's rhetoric is more clearly tied to this, although I don't think we should ever blame anyone for anyone else's actions. But anyway, I think just the double standard here is shocking and appalling. and I think we need to continue to call these people out for not holding themselves to the same roles that they're applying on others. Yeah, absolutely. I think that was part of what frustrated me about it because, of course, some of these Women March founders did host a rally against anti-Semitism. I think it was this weekend after the shooting. But, you know, as you said, Bree, there's no way if anyone on the right was associated with the figure like Farrakhan in all of his statements that it wouldn't be huge news mentioned all the time. time be like they would have to distance themselves and you know that would seem appropriate um so it is

a total double standard yeah i guess i looked at this situation as maybe this you know the attack over the weekend will finally be the straw that breaks the camels back it will it will rally the public even many of their own supporters to demand that it's three founders at least least denounce his rhetoric and say we absolutely do not support anything along these lines that this man says. But they did nothing. Instead, they hypocritically host a rally in front of the White House, clearly casting blame on President Trump in the name of anti-Semitism when they can't just look in the mirror. So I think it is time. Usually I'm not in favor of boycotting companies, and I'm really not calling on anybody to boycott Ben and Jerry's

and their decision to forge this partnership. But I wonder, you know, if Ben and Jerry's is even aware, if they even took the time to educate themselves on the women marches, ties to this man. I think it's time they do that. And as I wrote in my piece, I'm going to, in the least, be resisting pecan. That's what they want me to do.

Got to resist the resistance. Got to do that. Yeah, I have to say I was kind of relieved. Like, at first, the first thing I did, it being very important, was read the description of the flavor. Before you decide. Pecon's now. There was no peanut butter involved, nothing that was like a trigger food.

I was like, okay, okay, it's okay. I can go the rest of my life without having this. I'm a huge sucker for a good graham cracker crossbowl. That's my thing. And I also like bananas, like marshmallows. If you've got that going on. This is like a real problem with Ben and Jerry's because they constantly release these political flavors. And I'm like, well, I need to be true to my beliefs.

But also, like, could you make like, you know, a conservative version of this that would support like, you know, pregnancy centers with the same flavor? That would be great. That would be great. I always cave. If it's yummy, I cave. To be honest, though, I've always thought Ben and Jerry's ice cream is overrated. What? What?

To do with their politics. Whoa. Fight and words. I'm more of a vanilla girl. Like, give me a very good vanilla ice cream. I know that sounds lame and boring, but there's nothing better than a good vanilla ice cream. I mean, you're just literally being vanilla. Take that, Ben and Jerry's.

Okay. Well, our next topic is Glamour Magazine. It's picked its Women of the Year, and of course, there are no conservatives on the list. Among the Women of the Year are Senator Kamala Harris, a Democrat from California, and the women involved in March for Our Lives. the pro-gun control movement started since Parkland. Bree, were you surprised at all to see no conservatives once again? No.

I feel like I just fed you a question. It was like very leading. But you know what I mean? No, I mean, absolutely not at all surprise. I think it's very apparent that teen magazines, that beauty magazines that target themselves towards younger women have done this time and time again and have, you know, skewed themselves to favoring and giving a lot of glossy profiles to women who lean liberal and give a lot of airtime and attention to liberal ideas.

I mean, just a couple of days ago, Teen Vogue was pushing for the Equal Rights Amendment. They were pushing for that to get passed. Last week, Kelsey, you and I'd rather that than their promotion of socialism or whatever that was. Right. They're trying to literally end capitalism. So I guess I'm not at all surprised to see this genre of magazines

fan the flames and push up and hype up women and ideas that are liberal. This is just going to be their MO. This is what they do. And this is part of the reason why we're here, why problematic women exist, is because we're here to say, listen, there's young women who have different opinions. And here's what we think. I agree. And, I mean, was I surprised by this?

No. And part of me just wants to stop even trying. Like, why do I have any expectations that a single conservative woman will be included on this list? But I do think it's important that we highlight these cases. the lack of conservative women on these lists to keep telling them again, again, we do exist. Because if we just back down and don't call them out and don't tell them we're here, they're going to forget about us and they will start to think that we don't exist. So I will say, I believe it was New York Magazine who put together the most powerful women of the year list.

Right. And they did Nikki Haley. Yeah, they did include Nikki Haley. Of course, they also included Stormy Daniels right alongside her. I thought that was basically equivalent. Right, right. And Marjorie from the SBA list. Yeah, Marjorie Dan. So that gave me some hope.

So when I saw the glamour list came out, I was like, you know what? If New York Magazine changed its ways, maybe the rest of them will too. But, I mean, one is better than none in that sense. but I don't know why someone like Nikki Haley didn't make this list. I will say I was happy to see they included some international women, the woman who helped launch the movement that gave women in Saudi Arabia the right to drive. I'm glad they recognized her. They also decided to recognize the multiple women who played a role in taking down Larry Nassar.

the doctor who took advantage of hundreds of women in the gymnastics sex abuse scandal. So they certainly deserve to be on that list. They also included Chrissy Teigen. She's the influencer of the year is what they say. Chrissy Teigen, of course, I think she's funny on Twitter. And to be honest, this is what, this is the problem with the left. Like, I can appreciate someone like Chrissy Teigen's humor and deeply disagree with what she's saying. I tolerate her basically

and I'm still able to laugh but I feel like people on the other side are unable to do that if we had someone if we had a conservative version of Chrissy Tegan it wouldn't be possible because the left

would just be constantly offended by it Right even Taylor Swift being quiet Not enough Gotta denounce everything Taylor Or else you're supporting fascism Right Of course Yeah no it is frustrating

And I think that goes back to You know just sort of this idea that for the right, politics isn't everything. And I think for a lot of normal people on the left, that's also true. But a lot of the activists on the left, everything becomes political. And so everyone must be political. Yeah, I mean, I guess it is what we expect from women's magazines. At the same time, you know, I don't know.

I guess this is the pot calling the kettle black. But it does seem like there's an opportunity for, you know, a women's magazine that is either truly bipartisan or one that more is geared toward the right. Like, I certainly enjoy reading women's magazines and it's sometimes a little bit frustrating that you know you're going to read, you know, all these profiles, but like you'll never see one of Melania Trump. You won't see Betsy DeVos honored. Like, you're just never going to get that. Totally. And I do wonder where that wealthy, conservative donor is who wants to star a women's magazine. No secret message there. But you can find my contact info through the DailySignal.com.

Okay. Well, now that Kelsey is raised in line. All right, let's get to one of our favorite couples, or at least one of mine. Chip and Joanna Gaines sat down for an interview with People Magazine. The Fixer Upper Stars just had their fifth child, crew, who's quite a bit younger than the other four. Quote, it's hard to believe this little turkey will only be 10 years old when Emmy is graduating. graduating from high school. That's what Chip said, referring to the couple's fourth child, Emmy, who is now eight. He also said, I think we have to have another one because I'm particular about the only child thing. Crew needs a sister to manage this whole thing out. Don't be surprised if number six is in the cards.

Well, you think that was a pretty innocuous thing to say, but no. Frida Garza, a writer at the liberal woman's site, Jezebel, is now mad at Chip. She writes, children are a gift in a all that. I love that. A gift and all that. But Joanna has now given Chip five precious gifts and she doesn't owe him a six under any circumstances. And unless Joanna says, I want to have a six kid, then they probably shouldn't. Chip, buddy, stick to what you know best, cracking jokes and looking pretty and give your wife a break. Guys, thoughts? This is a lot. This is a lot right now. Let them live. You know what I'm saying? Like liberals are all about, supposedly all about letting people live, letting people make decisions,

letting people have the preferences that they have. He's expressing a preference. He identifies as a father of six. He needs that to come true. And no, it's too much. Can't identify that way. I was going to say, why don't we start with the fact that she called Chip Pretty? Interesting word choice there.

That also struck me. But, you know, I thought she was trying to be, I don't know, inclusive, non-binary. I thought it was. I think Ben can be pretty. I think it was demeaning in a way. I think the tone sounded demeaning. Oh, yeah. Like, I'm just going to, Chip, just focus on your looks.

Like, imagine if a woman was told that in reverse. Oh. It would be so demeaning. But because a woman saying to it to a man, then it's perfectly acceptable. They're just so hypocritical. That is an interesting point. Yeah. And it's not like Joanna's out there saying, I don't want a six kid, right?

This isn't the handmaid's tail. This is not the handmade's tail. She's not being forced to carry a child. He just expressed one preference, and we have not heard from her that she's actively, like, resisting this, right? And this is a handmade's tale scenario. So I think, like, don't project your fantasies of handmade's tale onto, like, everyone else's lives. Right. And I think, you know, she did make a comment that, you know, it was harder being pregnant at 40 than, I guess, you know, she would have been, I suppose, 31 or 32 when she had the last one.

But as far as I'm aware of, yeah, she hasn't made any comment along the lines you're talking about where, like, God forbid I ever have a six or I'm done with this forever. Like, yeah, I'm sure it was a hardship for her being pregnant is no joke. But to me, this is another example, though, of the hatred of big families that we so often see on the left. And, you know, they're always claiming to be about choice. But here we have a couple who have huge financial means, seem to be well adjusted, seem to be happy. I'm sure would responsibly discuss whether to have a six child. and yet that's like how dare this dad want this?

I don't know. And how dare this dad want this for his child? I mean, I think that's completely natural to think of how this child is going to be raised. And for this writer to not see the value of siblings and not respect Chips' value that he places on having his child be able to enjoy the many amazing things. about having siblings, I think it's, I mean, I think it's pretty disrespectful. And at the end of the day, yeah, it's like, why is this her business? Like, this is when I think Lebo writers run out of things to write about. And so they have to pick on fights that have, that should have nothing to do with them.

Yeah. And I also think it's kind of insulting toward men. Like, obviously the first nine months of a child's life, it's, you know, it's the woman. It's a lot of work. But there's 18 more years after that and plenty of good dads, you know, get involved, help at night, play with the children. You know, like, they're not like it's, I mean, I think it's often 50-50. It is not some, oh, you got to do all this and I'm going to show up and drink my martini and pat them on the head. Like, Chip is presumably signing himself up as well for some pretty serious self-sacrifice.

I think this speaks to a larger point that the left doesn't want men to have any. impact or any opinions on family planning. It should all be the woman's decision. So they have a problem with the fact that Chip even has an opinion on whether or not they have more children. Yeah, I think that that's definitely part of what's going on here. Also, as the oldest of five, the youngest in the family, so I'm 26. The youngest is 12.

So big age got between me and him, big age got between the sibling directly above him. And hopefully he's not listening to this. But he's kind of a brat. So I think that Chip has a point that there needs to be some other kids there. You can't just be like the youngest by a lot of yours, you know? Like it kind of messes with you. I mean, counterpoint.

I'm the oldest of five as well. And thanks to twins, I was actually five and a half when the youngest were born. So we were the opposite, crammed very close together. And my younger sisters, who I hope are not listening, can also be a little bit brat. Can't win. They're always going to be proud. No offense, to the youngest,

but the youngest other, it's, you just, it's, you get too much attention. Counter, counterpoint. Since we're all going into our family tree here,

I'm in the middle of, in the middle of two sisters, and we're all exactly three years apart. And, uh, it's interesting when you think about wanting to have a family. Would you, I feel like everybody bases that on.

Do you want to, want more or less than the amount of siblings that you had. And I'm like smack dab in the middle of all that. And I either, I totally get reactions if I say I want more. They're like, what you want? Like four, five children. Are you crazy? That's what people think these days of big families.

And then to me, only having two sounds like a tiny little, measly little family. Oh, my God. Well, I want three daughters and I want to name them April, May, and June. Isn't that funny? That would they find it funny? That's what I want to know. You might want to give them a little bit of an opt-out of that one. Maybe he's middle name.

Wow. Kay, coming out of your savage. Oh, sorry. Sorry. I mean, I respect your choice, your name identity. Just going to be giving them some paperwork to change their names. Does that mean they're all going to be girls? Yeah, I only want daughters.

No, you could totally name a boy may. Well, they get to pick their own gender, so you don't get to decide that anyways. Yeah, you got to raise babies. Okay. Well, we're going to leave it there for today. Thanks so much for listening to The Daily Signal podcast, brought to you from the Robert H. Bruce Radio Studio at the Heritage Foundation. Please be sure to subscribe on iTunes, Google Play, or SoundCloud. And please leave us a review or rating on iTunes to give us any feedback.

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