The Daily Signal - America's Economic Freedom Tumbles in Decadelong Decline

Episode Date: March 10, 2022

Last year, America was ranked 20th in The Heritage Foundation’s Index of Economic Freedom. This year, America’s rating in the index fell five places and now stands at No. 25, behind nations such a...s Ireland, Canada, and Chile. “We've been on about a decadelong decline in our economic freedom,” Terry Miller, a visiting fellow for economic freedom at The Heritage Foundation, says. (The Daily Signal is Heritage's multimedia news organization.) Miller joins “The Daily Signal Podcast” to discuss the recently released 2022 Index of Economic Freedom, and why America is falling further behind.  We also cover these stories: Congress releases a $1.5 trillion omnibus spending bill to fund the government.    The Kremlin accuses the United States of declaring economic war on Russia.  The federal government gets involved in cryptocurrency. Enjoy the show! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:06 This is the Daily Signal podcast for Thursday, March 10th. I'm Doug Blair. And I'm Virginia Allen. America's economic freedom has reached a new low. America used to be among the top 10 most economically free countries in the world. Now we're ranked 25th behind nations like Norway, Canada, South Korea, and Chile, according to the 2022 Heritage Foundation Index of Economic Freedom. On today's show, we talk with Ambassador Terry Miller.
Starting point is 00:00:34 He plays a large role in writing Heritage's annual index of economic freedom. Miller explains why America's economic freedom continues to decline and shares what countries in the world are among the most economically free. But before we get to Virginia's conversation with Ambassador Miller, let's hit our top news stories of the day. Congress has released an omnibus spending package totaling $1.5 trillion to continue funding the government. Per an article from Director of the Center for the Federal Budget at the Heritage Foundation, Matt Dickerson, in the Daily Signal, the omnibus package increases non-defense discretionary spending by $46 billion compared to last year and increases defense discretionary spending by $42 billion. House Republicans have said that the bill's price tag is too high in the face of rising inflation and that it contains too many leftist provisions. Per the Daily Signal, Dickerson argued that this spending package is a huge mistake. Dickerson argued that the omnibus package would continue spending related to a COVID-19 emergency when the country should be returning to normal.
Starting point is 00:01:51 The bill would also promote green energy, add funds for the IRS, send taxpayer dollars to plan parenthood, and include thousand of earmarks. It is expected that the Senate will take up the legislation shortly. Officials in Ukraine say Russia is responsible for bombing a children's and maternity hospital in Maripul, Ukraine. Images and video of the bomb building with blown out windows flooded social media on Wednesday. Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky tweeted in response to the attack, People, children are under the wreckage. Atrocity. How much longer will the world be an accomplice ignoring tear?
Starting point is 00:02:31 Close the sky right now. Stop the killings. You have power, but you seem to be losing humanity. An estimated 200,000 civilians have attempted to evaping. evacuate the city of Maripool in recent days, but have not been able to escape. Diana Berg is a former resident of Maripool, and she described the current situation in the city to BBC News. The city is in total darkness. It's like a black, scary, you know, forest. Then there is no heating because, of course, it powers from electricity. No heating and no water,
Starting point is 00:03:12 because everything of these destruction was damaged. The total injury and death counts from the children's hospital are still unknown. Meanwhile, the Kremlin is accusing the United States of declaring an economic war on Russia. Kremlin spokesman Dmitri Peskov says America's economic actions against Russia demand deep analysis. And he added, if you are asking me what Russia is going to do, Russia is going to do what is necessary to defend its interests. This statement comes just after America announced it will no longer purchase oil from Russia. The federal government is getting involved in cryptocurrency. On Wednesday, President Biden signed an executive order directing the federal government to create a strategy on digital assets
Starting point is 00:03:58 like cryptocurrencies. The order also includes directions to the Federal Reserve, asking the body to research and potentially develop a digital dollar. Additionally, Biden ordered the Treasury Department to develop guidelines for trading and using cryptocurrency. The Treasury also plans to research blockchain technology and digital assets for future use. The Daily Signal recently spoke with Heritage Foundation Research Fellow Peter San Ange about cryptocurrencies and their future. Here's an excerpt from that interview. I think governments are going to try to crush it.
Starting point is 00:04:31 They will not succeed because it's decentralized. And I think it may be 30 or 50 years. out, but I think that crypto is going to have a massive impact on the world. It's going to switch power from the elite, from the powerful to regular people. I think it's a big deal. The rest of that interview is available online at daily signal.com. Now stay tuned for my conversation with Ambassador Terry Miller as we discuss Heritage Foundation's 2022 Index of Economic Freedom. Conservative women. Conservative feminists. It's true. We do. We do. exist. I'm Virginia Allen and every Thursday morning on problematic women, Lauren Evans and I
Starting point is 00:05:16 sort through the news to bring you stories and interviews that are particular interest to conservative leaning or problematic women. That is women whose views and opinions are often excluded or mocked by those on the so-called feminist left. We talk about everything from pop culture to policy and politics. Search for problematic women wherever you get your podcasts. America is not as economically free as it was just one year ago. And here with us to explain why is Heritage Foundation Visiting Fellow for Economic Freedom, Ambassador Terry Miller. Ambassador Miller, thank you for being here. It's my pleasure.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Well, in 2006, Terry Miller was appointed as an ambassador to the United Nations and U.S. representative on the UN's economic and social council. He currently serves as a visiting fellow, as I said, here at the Heritage Foundation, and he plays a large role in writing Heritage's annual index of economic freedom. The Index of Economic Freedom is one of Heritage's most well-known annual publications, and the 2022 Index has just been released. It ranks over 170 nations across the world according to their level of economic freedom. So Ambassador Miller, when we say that, when we say, economic freedom. What exactly are we talking about? What does it mean for a nation to be economically free? And what does it mean that, you know, a country like Switzerland has more economic freedom than a country like Chile? Well, when we talk about economic freedom,
Starting point is 00:06:57 we're really talking about the relationship between individuals and their government. And the extent to which their government imposes regulations or other restrictions on their economic activity, well, countries that do a lot of that have less, provide less economic freedom for their citizens. And that means that it's harder for their citizens to work. It's harder for them to find jobs. It's harder for them to take care of their families and plan for the future and how they're going to build their economic family, prosperous, more generous benefits for themselves and others that they provide for themselves. This is what economic freedom is all about.
Starting point is 00:07:45 In many parts of the world, and increasingly here in the United States, the government is taking a bigger role in economic activity, and that reduces the playing field, really, on which individuals can act. So as you're going through and you're ranking all of these countries, you're looking at things like the power of the government versus the power that individuals citizens have and how many jobs are available for people in that country? A lot of factors like that, correct? That's exactly right. We're looking at the extent to which governments are corrupt, which is a big constraint on economic activity in many places. We're looking at the tax structure, how much government spends in terms of taking money out of the system and controlling its use.
Starting point is 00:08:36 We look at business regulations. We look at regulations. We look at regulations on. on the labor force, on workers. And finally, we look at the trading environment. Is the country open to trade? Is it open to investment? How easy is it for firms and individuals to obtain credit? And is the banking system honest? It's those kinds of factors.
Starting point is 00:08:58 So the big question is, where does America fall on this ranking? Well, well, I'm sad to say, America is only 25th in the world. world in terms of providing economic freedom. We've been on about a decade-long decline in our economic freedom. We used to be in the top 10. Now we're 25th. We dropped five places in this year's index. So what's going on here in the United States right now is not very good. So what's changed that we've fallen that much over the past decade? Well, there's two factors that are really driving this decline. One is the increasing regulatory burden on individuals and on workers as well. And the other is the excessive government spending in the United States
Starting point is 00:09:51 that has caused our fiscal health to, in this year's index, to drop to zero in our rankings. That's as low as you can get. We have a massive government deficit running around $3 trillion a year and we have massive government debt of about $30 trillion. And this is all mortgaging our future. It's money that will have to be paid back by our children, our grandchildren. It's reducing their freedom to operate in the future. So who are the countries that are in those top slots that right now America should probably be taking some notes on?
Starting point is 00:10:31 Well, the countries that are ranked free in the economic index are Singapore. Switzerland, Ireland, New Zealand, Luxembourg, Taiwan, and Estonia. Just below them, I want to single out really all the Nordic countries. They all rank very highly in the index, and they rank ahead of the United States in the index. People talk about the Nordic countries being socialist, but they really have a tremendous commitment to capitalism, and they're providing high degrees of economic freedom to their citizens at this point. That's really wonderful to hear. Well, I was fascinated to see this is the second year in a row, right, that Singapore has
Starting point is 00:11:17 taken that number one position. Yes, for many, many years in our index, Hong Kong was number one. But given the developments there over the past five years and the control that's been exerted on them by the communist regime in Beijing, we didn't really feel. feel like we could get a good grip on what the current situation is in Hong Kong. It certainly has deteriorated. And so we no longer rate them in our index. That means Singapore has moved up to the top spot. And this year, we had a couple of newcomers to the top spot that I mentioned before. Taiwan and Estonia broke into the top rank. So there are countries doing well. Yeah. So for countries like Singapore
Starting point is 00:12:06 and Taiwan that are in that Asian continent, what are they doing? How are they able to achieve such economic freedom? Well, they have very high rankings in what we call openness or open markets. They have virtually no restrictions on international trade. They're completely open to foreign investment in their economies. They have minimal amounts of corruption in their social. society. They have a very social sort of strictness that keeps people honest and above board. And so those are the areas where they really excel. They also do a great job in balancing their
Starting point is 00:12:54 budgets. They don't have the governments out borrowing money and creating large deficits or government debts. Yeah, that's something that the U.S. could take a couple notes from them on. Certainly. And I want to discuss a little bit, you know, what is it that America can be doing right now to actually begin to improve our own economic score and to move towards greater economic freedom? Well, I think the first thing we have to do is to get rid of the lockdown mentality that has so badly impacted our country. over the last two years. We need to make it possible for all Americans to work and to travel, to engage in whatever kind of economic activity I want to. Many parts of the country, certain types of economic activity, and I'm thinking about
Starting point is 00:13:53 restaurants or tourism-related operations, we're all but shut down during the COVID panic. And I think in retrospect, we're going to find out. that all or much of that was terribly excessive. And it's done tremendous harm to people in our country, and particularly to the poorer people and the middle classes who operate and have those kinds of jobs. And it hasn't caused people to suffer particularly in the upper classes or people who can work remotely.
Starting point is 00:14:32 But for people who are out there doing service jobs, and others, it's been a tremendous blow. So we need to get away from this COVID restriction mentality. And then we need the government to stop mortgaging our future with these massive spending bills. We're seeing the inflation that that's causing right now. There's nothing good that can come from that. Most of those programs that they're trying to increase spending for in Congress have been shown to be ineffective. They don't do what they're really, claim to do in terms of providing jobs or benefits for people. Most of that money is just wasted. And yet it still is going to have to be paid back by our children.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Yeah. Well, and I think that's such an interesting point that you make because we can, and I think what we've seen somewhat in America is politicians pointing to COVID as an excuse for why the economy is maybe not doing as well as it was several years ago and why their struggle. But yet we see from so many other countries in this index, they've done okay through the pandemic. And some have even risen in levels of economic freedom. Are there any countries that made a lot of a lot of significant progress over the past year in terms of economic freedom that you were surprised to see? I wouldn't say I was terribly surprised. to see the increases in Taiwan and Estonia, both of those countries have been working very hard
Starting point is 00:16:08 to increase the market orientation, the free market orientation of their economies. And so I was very pleased to see them move up in the index. And I wasn't surprised to see the Nordic countries move up because by and large they took a very light approach to COVID restrictions. Sweden was famous now for the lightness of its COVID-related restrictions. And the other Nordic countries continued to allow children to go to school. They allowed businesses to stay open during the pandemic. So they avoided some of the big mistakes that other countries made. Now, when we look at the very bottom of the list, like I said, there's over 170 nations,
Starting point is 00:17:00 ranked in this index. When we look at the very bottom, what nations are at that end of the list for economic freedom? Oh, well, it's the countries that have made a big commitment to socialism or communism over the years. North Korea is at the very bottom. They have virtually no economic freedom at all. But then just above them, ranking 175th and 176th are two American countries, Cuba and Venezuela, both of which were originally more free market oriented and capitalist. And half a century ago, Cuba moved away from that and has impoverished their people as a result. And more recently, Venezuela has moved away from that. And they likewise have impoverished their people.
Starting point is 00:17:55 And you see what happens when countries adopt these government-centric. economic policies and restrict the ability of their citizens destroying their freedom, they fall to the bottom of our rankings, but more importantly, they ruin the lives of their people. So in addition to those rankings, in addition to the index providing so much information on which country, you know, lands where and you all have categories from free to, you know, somewhat free, less free, repressed, what other information does? Does the 2022 Heritage Foundation Index of Economic Freedom provide? Well, we provide background information on every country.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Each country has a separate page, two pages actually, in the index, that contain information specifically about that country, about their political system. There's often a little bit about their history in there or their geographic situation that sometimes can have an impact on economic activity. And then we provide a detailed look at each of 12 categories of economic freedom and how they're doing in those. That forms the basis for our index rankings. And finally, this year, we provide some information on the impact of the restrictions that governments put in place to try to deal with the COVID panic because that's had such an important impact over the last couple of years. And who is the index really meant for?
Starting point is 00:19:26 Are policymakers and global leaders looking at this index and examining ways that they can improve? Yes, I think that's probably our most important audience or policymakers and countries around the world. They do pay a lot of attention to the index. They often contact us with information or to request information about how we arrived at the rankings. We have wide-ranging policy dialogues with economic and, political leadership in countries around the world as a result of this index. And I think that's very positive, actually, because the vast majority of countries in the world are trying to improve the economic situation for their citizens and increasing economic
Starting point is 00:20:14 freedom and committing to the free market and to really the capitalist system, the international trading system. This is the proven way to increase prosperity and leaders around the world understand that. On it's such a helpful resource for so many people and I'm so glad that it's having that influence at the level of policymakers and world leaders. But it's such a fun resource really for anyone to look at just to see, okay, what nations are embracing economic freedom. So for anyone listening who wants to check it out, you can find all the information at heritage.org slash index. Again, that's heritage.org slash index, or you can just search for the 2022 Heritage Index of Economic Freedom. Ambassador Miller, thank you so much for all of your work
Starting point is 00:21:08 on this product and for your time today to explain what exactly the index is and why it's so important. It's been my pleasure. Thanks for the opportunity to talk to all the listeners out there. And that'll do it for today's episode. Thank you so much. for listening to The Daily Signal Podcast. As always, you can find the Daily Signal podcast on all your podcast listening at Google Play, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and IHeartRadio. Please be sure if you haven't already to leave us a review in a five-star rating and, of course, encourage others to subscribe.
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