The Daily Signal - An Insider Takes You Behind Scenes of Trump’s Campaign

Episode Date: March 8, 2021

Running a presidential campaign is no small feat, especially during a global pandemic. Tim Murtaugh, who was communications director for President Donald Trump’s 2020 reelection campaign, joins "The Daily Signal Podcast" to share his experiences on the hustings with Trump. Murtaugh also discusses his new position as a Heritage Foundation visiting fellow and contributor to The Daily Signal. Also on today's show, we read your letters to the editor and share a good news story about an 8-year-old girl who has launched an initiative to help homeless children.  Enjoy the show! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is the Daily Signal podcast for Monday, March 8th. I'm Robert Blewey. And I'm Virginia Allen. On today's show, Rob talks with Tim Murta, the former communications director for President Donald Trump's 2020 re-election campaign and the newest Heritage Foundation Visiting Fellow. Murta will be a regular contributor to the Daily Signal and this podcast. We also read your letters to the editor and share a good news story about an eight-year-old girl who has launched an initiative to help homeless children.

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With your help, we can build an America where freedom, opportunity, prosperity, and civil society flourish. Now stay tuned for today's show. Coming up next. We are joined on the Daily Signal podcast today by Tim Murtaugh. He's a new visiting fellow at the Heritage Foundation

and contributor to the Daily Signal. Tim, welcome to the show. Happy to be with you, Rob. Thank you for the opportunity. Absolutely. We are so excited to have you as a new member of the team. You are just coming off a position

where you served as Director of Communications for President Donald Trump's re-election campaign. And I'm sure that our audience wants to hear all about what it was like to work so closely with President Trump. To begin today, can you share any favorite stories from your time serving on the campaign? Well, I mean, I'm not sure I can capture

really what it was like just here in the space of this brief conversation. But it was really a wild ride. It's the best job that I've ever had and I'm very grateful to the president for letting me serve in such a capacity. And it was an amazing experience. You know, you never think early on in your career that you'll be flying on Air Force One, which we did sometimes. We tried to keep costs down because the campaign has to pay for that. Meeting in the Oval Office with the president is an incredible thing. And when you get done

doing a TV hit, if I were on Fox News or CNN or something, and the phone rings and it's got four zeros on the caller ID. You know, that's the White House switchboard. calling and when the lady comes on and says, do you have a moment to speak to the president? It's kind of a jarring experience, you know, and so of course you say, yeah, I've got time. And then she says, please hold. And then she comes back and says, Mr. Murtaugh, the president. And he's on there. And he just watched you on TV and he wants to give you feedback and tell you you're doing a

good job. But, you know, when you said X, Y, and Z, maybe you could say it a different way. And so, you know, he was a guy who was paying attention and really cared very much about what the messaging was. But I think the starkest memory that I have from the campaign was on December 18th, 2019. It was the day that the House impeached him for the first time. And I was backstage as they were deciding when the president was going to go out on stage. We were in Battle Creek, Michigan for a rally.

And the president was due on stage at about exactly the time that the House was going to be voting. And so there was a determination of does he go out before the vote? Does he wait for the vote? And so we waited for a while, and then it was clear that we didn't know when the House was going to vote. So he just went out on stage and started talking. And I stood backstage and I was standing next to the vice president, Mike Pence, as we watched on the monitor, the House proceedings as they were voting on impeachment while the president was on the other side of the curtain speaking to, I don't know what,

11, 12,000 people out in the arena. And then we had to figure out a way to get word to him about what the result of the vote was. So we drew up a big sign with the vote totals on it and then a number three down below, which indicated that three Democrats had crossed over and voted with the Republicans against impeachment. And we gave it to Kaylee McAnaney, who was our campaign press secretary at the time before she went to the White House, and sent her out into the buffer area in front of the stage with this really big sign. And he looked down and she was wearing a bright red dress so he could pick her out. And he went down and he looked down and saw her there, and that's how he learned.

what the vote totals were. And he told the crowd right there at that very moment. I mean, it was really surreal to be there in part of that piece of American history. And of course, we know that the Senate went on to acquit him. And we thought that would be the most unusual thing that happened during the campaign. And I guess we were wrong about that. Well, and obviously shortly after that, the campaign in many respects was thrown a curveball with coronavirus. President Trump had made a name. for himself and the campaign was so successful in bringing together large crowds. What was it like for you to travel, particularly when you were able to get back on the road later

in the campaign, to see so much of America and interact with the American people? It's pretty amazing. You know, the president really did bring together different parts of America who had never really gotten together before in one coalition. You know, I think a lot of people were voting for him in 2016, but also in 2020, who had never voted for a Republican before, perhaps in their lives. And so you go to these rallies, and I think the media had a different perspective or a preconceived notion of what the rallies were like. I was at a rally one time. I was sitting next to, I won't name the person, but a well-known

face from one of the major cable networks sitting at the rally, and she had never been to one before. And I was sitting right next to her, and she leaned over to me and said, is it always like this? And I said, what do you mean? And she said, I mean, it's positively joyous here. There are families. There are parents with children. Everyone is just having the time of their lives. And I said, yes, it is always like this.

Yes. And she said, this is just not what I expected. And I said, maybe you should stop watching your own network. Once in a while. But yeah, this is what it's like at a Trump rally. And it was people from all walks of life. And it was, you know, the media wants to paint it a certain way. but we had a lot of Hispanics and a lot of African Americans and a lot of Asian people and people who were from, you know, working families, union members, very, very strong supporters of the president.

And as we were able to get back to in-person events, it was really just an explosion of people wanting to get back to normal, of course, but also wanting to be out there and show their support for the president. It was really a great feeling. And that's why we really did feel like up to Election Day and even beyond. We were very confident of victory. Well, Tim, I want to get into a few follow-up questions based on what you just said. Your campaign was able to win the votes of more than 74 million Americans who came out to support President Trump. That's 12 million more than his previous campaign in 2016. What do we know about these new Trump voters?

As you were on the campaign trail, what can you tell us about the people who were attracted to President Trump's campaign who might not, traditionally have been supporting Republican candidates for office? Well, we know that they love this country and they want to put America first both here at home, but also on the world stage. You know, when you talk about America first, it doesn't necessarily mean being belligerent in with regard to your interactions with other countries. But it means putting America's interests first when you're talking about those things. And we know that these folks, the 74 million who voted for President Trump, we know that they approve of his policies and his successes, the world's best economy before the pandemic hit, for one.

I think it's important to remember that this was a global pandemic that affected every nation on earth. We know that they love conservative judges that the president appointed, three justices on the U.S. Supreme Court. We know that they appreciate that President Trump was sticking up for them. I think the overriding sentiment for a lot of these folks is that they believe that Washington had forgotten all about them for an awfully long time and they were tired of being Condescended to by the elites in Washington and here here was a guy Donald J. Trump who gave voice to their frustrations with the Washington swamp and and I think in that way he was really able to to grow the party in a much broader

Republican coalition than we have ever seen before. I mean the vote total I think shows that and I know that Democrats are have been very nervous about the inroads that he made in the black community and the Latino community and certainly with with union members. Well, let's talk about that for a moment because we certainly saw a significant increase in support from minority communities. What do you think some of the important factors were that conservatives should take into account to broaden our reach going forward based on the Trump campaign? Well, I think first, it helped very much in 2020 that the president had a record of nearly

four years in office to run on and point to. You know, it was a very strong economy. It was the lowest unemployment rate in the black community and the Latino community in history, again, pre-pandemic. Record funding for historically black colleges and universities, more money ever devoted than by any of his predecessors and also criminal justice reform. Latinos were very strong for the president. In our polling, interestingly enough, they felt that his strong stance on China was a big reason why they supported him because they rightly felt that he was defending their jobs and their livelihoods. And, you know, I think it might be counterintuitive for some people, but his positions on immigration actually resonated very well in the Latino community because think of it this way.

If you ask someone in this country who's Latino and maybe either they themselves or a member of their families in prior generations had come to this country by the legal means and done things the right way. If you ask those folks, Hey, do you think that everybody else who comes here should follow the rules or do you think they ought to be able to jump in line and take shortcuts? They'll say, darn right, they should follow the rules. My family and I had to follow the rules and they should too. So I think that leftists make a big mistake when they think that they can just shout the word

immigration and think that they've won the argument. You know, people are people and they care about what affects them directly. And I firmly believe that conservative policies are best for everybody. So you have to promote those policies and point to the record of them working in those communities. And I think we have to make a better case of how liberal policies have failed. So many people in this country look at the inner cities, most of which have been dominated by liberals for decades or even as much as a century, point it out and say, why do you keep voting for this? And you also have to stay engaged in those communities. It can't just happen in the space of a few months during campaign season.

And it has to be full time. And much, much like President Trump did with union workers, we have to be willing to make the arguments and get people to consider voting conservative ideals because I think a lot of people are conservative. And if they stopped and thought about it, they would agree and they would be supporting conservative policies. Well, you are so right, Tim, that the president had a strong record to run on. And that is so true. And I think a lot of people saw the positive benefits in their own life in so many different ways. Given the president's communication style, which I think was unique in many respect and a break

from so many past leaders of our country. You could say that. How important was it to have that direct line of communication to the American people through social media, which, of course, you know, we know the social media companies and which are run by leftists and left-leaning leaders probably didn't like, but the president was just masterful at it. How did you deploy that effectively to make sure that you were reaching these people who might not consider themselves traditional conservatives?

Well, I mean, I think maybe you're giving the campaign a little too much credit. We didn't exactly deploy Donald Trump. He did that on his own. That Twitter account that he no longer has, of course, was something that he was something that He ran, he was the master of it. And, you know, he could reach tens of millions of people in an instant. And he was able to really change the tide of conversations and change actions by Congress. He would send the media scurrying at a moment's notice.

And I think it's great. The idea that you would have to go through the filter of the national news media to be able to speak to the American people is wrong. And I think the media was, I think, jealous of the fact that he could go around them and speak right to the American people. I think the social media companies didn't like it at all. But he was able to do that, absolutely. And we had polling consistently that showed that the president's policies and the way he approached the problems of this country really went off the charts, when people heard directly from him and not through the filter of the national news media. when he spoke in his state of the union addresses or in his rally speeches,

in doing focus groups and doing real-time polling and polling people after the fact, when they heard straight from him, the numbers were astronomical as compared to people who got their news from, say, CNN or NBC Nightly News, something like that. So direct communication, whether it's through televised speeches or through social media, was really key. And there has been no one ever who communicated like that, like Donald J. Trump has. That is so true. And I think it's why so many conservatives, including us at the Heritage Foundation, created organizations like The Daily Signal, making sure that we had our own platforms, our own media outlets that could get that message out and really tell the truth. I mean, we've had to deal with our fair share of media bias for decades now. And you saw it up close

in your role as Director of Communications. Just last week, CNN attacked Vice President Mike Penn. for a column that he wrote for us at The Daily Signal on Election Integrity. I'm just wondering what advice do you have for conservatives or Republicans in office as they're dealing with a hostile press? Well, you can't be afraid of it. You know, you know that they're there and you know that they're not going to give you a fair shake, that's for sure. But our philosophy on the Trump campaign was to go into the lion's den. The Biden campaign didn't really do that. They stayed mostly away from conservative media figuring that the rest of the mainstream media would do their work for them. And I think they were largely correct in that. The media did do that. But we went into the pro-Biden

media all the time, you know, at least when they would take us, CNN and MSNBC and the like. And look, think of it this way. If I went on CNN, which I did a number of times during the campaign, and I got beat up for 12 minutes, but I was actually able to get across some of our points for 30 or 60 seconds, it's probably the only 30 or 60 seconds of our viewpoint that CNN viewers were going to hear all day. And that's not a lot, 30 to 60 seconds, but it's better than zero. So I say take the fight to them, make the case, you know, get in their stories. One thing that sticks out in my mind is I was on Chris Cuomo show one night, very close to the election, just a week or so before the election. And I knew he was going to press me about the president's approach to COVID. And I knew he was

going to ask me some self-righteous questions about how the president didn't do enough and he didn't take it serious and all that stuff. And I think everyone can remember back when he was having his brother, the governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo, on the show. They used to make fun of each other all the time. And Chris Cuomo had this giant Q-tip that he held up and made fun of his brother and say, hey, you'd need a Q-tip this big because your nose is so large. And they were yucking it up while the pandemic was in full swing, especially in New York City. And so when Chris Cuomo had me on. It was grilling me about the president not taking seriously. I was, I was ready. Then I had a print out of the picture of the two of them with the giant Q-tip. And I said,

now, come on now, Chris. Does this look like a couple of guys who were taking the pandemic seriously? And, you know, I don't think he was quite expecting that. He said, well, you know what? Yeah, sure, I had him on. And you know what? It was funny. And so I think the point was made. And you just have to be ready, be creative, and know that they're not going to be on your side, but don't be afraid of the debate. I know Heritage, of course, not afraid of the debate, and you guys have been doing a great job for generations, why I'm so thrilled to be associated with you now. But I think you can have relationships with the media that would be considered adversarial. I get along very well with most of the reporters and the TV hosts that I dealt with over the last two years, a few exceptions

maybe, but by and large, they are professionals and they will try to let you make your points. You're not going to fix every bad story and you're not going to win every argument, but you've got to give it a try. That's great advice, Tim, and we appreciate you going into the Lions Den to do that. It was fun. It was fun. Absolutely. President Trump recently spoke at CPAC and he outlined the different direction that our country is taking under this current Biden administration. We're seeing some of those consequences really early on in his administration, not necessarily living up to the promise to govern from the center or as a moderate, as he said he would. Instead, there are some fairly significant policies that take a hard left direction. What is the most important thing that

conservatives can do to confront this growing threat in America, not only of socialism, but an attempt, I think, to radically change our country? Well, I think what we're seeing here, is a display of the truism that elections have consequences. You know, we are going down a radical path. And to some extent, I would tell people that it should not be a surprise. A lot of these things are things that Biden said he was going to do at one point or another during the campaign. And we argued, and I think it's bearing out to be true, that he is controlled to a large degree by the extreme elements of his party. So what can we do about this as we fear that we're heading down the road towards socialism. I'm not pandering here, Rob, but getting involved with organizations

like Heritage is very, very important, bringing attention to what's going on because the mainstream media is not going to do that. And I think that the way to combat this is to get involved, to familiarize yourself with what the issues are, take a look at what the conservative philosophy says about a given topic, whether it's energy policy or immigration policy or tax policy, and see who's been in charge and what policies have been affecting your direct life. And let me say this, who lives in the White House is very important, no question of that. And it's important who controls Congress because they set the big picture, the macro policies for the country. But a lot of things that happen that affect most people the most and most directly happen at the state and local levels.

A school board election may well be more important to you in the long run than a presidential election could ever be. Because those are where the policies are made that affect you and your family every single day. School board, city council, that kind of thing. State legislatures and governors, of course. And then I think near the end of the list is Congress and president. So elections have consequences. And I think getting involved, making your voice heard, and joining the argument, joining the argument that, no, conservative policies are better. Individual freedoms, economic freedoms, free market approaches, those sorts.

sorts of things are, in fact, better. Capitalism has created more wealth among more individuals than any other system ever known to man. And we need to absolutely defend it and its freedoms. Tim, last year we created something called the Citizens Guide to Fight for America. It was our effort at Heritage, which is ongoing to do things in a 501C3 nonprofit compliant way to give Americans an opportunity. And I just want to give a plug for it because you just had such a a great lead into it. It's heritage.org slash citizens guide. And our listeners can check that out and sign up and get involved. But one follow-up question for you, you spoke earlier in our conversation about so many of President Trump's accomplishments during the four years in office.

What are you most worried about the Biden administration undoing from those successful policies? Well, there's a lot because the president did, President Trump, had a great list of accomplishments. And I think having worked in the Trump administration for two years before the campaign, I was communications director for Secretary Sonny Perdue at USDA. I know a lot of federal employees from USDA and also in other agencies, not political appointees, but career employees there. And what I'm hearing now is that the Biden team is coming in and overturning Trump policies in many cases just because they are Trump policies, just out of hand, changing things back

to the Obama ways because they have. you know the Trump label on them and I think that's short-sighted and I think that's that's reckless just simply doing things because the previous guy was not to your liking and so you're just going to change it back to be almost spiteful I don't think that's any way to run a government but on the on the big picture items I think the rollbacks that Biden is already attempting to do that are dangerous I think one on immigration we're already seeing a crisis at the border with record shattering migrant children showing up at the

border and I think Biden is getting cover from the national news media, but you know, we heard so much about kids in cages when Donald Trump was president. Well, Joe Biden has reopened those facilities that he so reviled during the campaign. And I think the situation is getting worse because when you advertise that you're not going to deport anyone and you're going to provide amnesty, you're going to attract more people. It's common sense. And so no wonder there is a flood at the border. I think Immigration is one. It's a public safety issue. It's an economic issue because it threatens the jobs and creates more competitions for Americans, people who are here legally, who need jobs, particularly coming out of the coronavirus economic downturn. Taxes is another thing. I think there's no secret, no doubt, that Joe Biden is going to try to raise taxes substantially on people, and that is an economy killer, especially, again, coming out of an economic downturn. Regulation, not a sexy topic, I don't think, but I'm a One of the great unsung accomplishments of the Trump administration was the cutting of red tape, freeing up entrepreneurs to do what they do best and create jobs.

I think it's simplistic to talk about the government and the president creating jobs. What President Trump did, I think, masterfully, was help the government create the conditions under which private sector entrepreneurs and private sector employers can create jobs themselves. That's what government's role is, is to clear a way. for the private sector to be able to flourish. And that's what he did. And I fear that Biden is just going to heap those regulations right back on again

and all that good will be undone. And then I think a final area that is very important is energy. We already see that President Biden has killed the Keystone XL pipeline deal and that's gonna cost 11,000 jobs right away, a thousand people getting laid off right now and 10,000 jobs that will never be created.

It's also gonna get us back in and has gotten us back into the Paris Accord, which purposefully hamstrings and kneecaps our own economy in the hopes that other countries will follow suit and do what the accord says they're supposed to do. But there's no enforcement provisions. There's no punishment or consequences for failing to do it. And even John Kerry admits that if the United States went down to zero emissions tomorrow, it would have basically no impact on world climate because 90% of the emissions come from outside the United States. So I think that all of the things that President Trump has accomplished in those areas are very important. And I think that Joe Biden is going to immediately set to rolling them all back. And I think it's very dangerous.

Well, Tim, that gives you no shortage of topics to cover in your daily signal column. Tell our listeners about what are some of the things that you hope to be writing about for us in your stand as a contributor. I think that's one. When I just finished the last answer with, energy is one. I think that the idea that the Keystone XL pipeline cancellation was a good thing for the environment is wrong. I think he did it just to appease the environmental activists that supported him so strongly during the campaign. And if you look at it, what he's done is he's forced that oil is not going to stop coming from Canada. Just because the pipeline is dead, that particular pipeline.

It's going to be transported by railway and by truck, which historically and statistically are far more dangerous than a pipeline is. Historically, that's just a fact. So I think the joke is on the environmentalist. They won basically a symbolic victory because it's actually worse for the environment the way that they've got it designed now. So I'll be talking about, I think, Biden policies and probably some commentary on our good friends in the news media as well. Well, we're looking forward to those contributions. I want to close with a sports question. Both of us are long-suffering Pittsburgh Pirates fans.

Of course, you know, this season is not. not necessarily going to be resulting in a World Series championship. But how do we get back on track, Tim? And what are your predictions for the coming season? Well, yes, long suffering is right. My grandfather was the manager of the pirates, Danny Murtaugh for a long time in the 50s, 60s, and 70s. And so I have early memories of the pirates being very good. And Barry Bond's years were now a very long time ago.

It was well after my grandpa. And the Andrew McCutcheon years are now fading into distant memory. So, I mean, I would answer your question by saying that it's a good thing that Major League Baseball doesn't have relegation like soccer, where you get kicked out of the top league if you're not good enough. I was joking with someone the other day, you know, at this time of year, we're right around the corner from Major League Baseball, plus the Pirates. So, I mean, I can't see much better than the last place finish, I'm sorry to say. And I hope that they are able to hold on to some of their young, homegrown talent and maybe pick up a couple of free. agents or two over the course of a few years, but I'm afraid they're once again back into that familiar rebuilding mode. And as we often see with the pirates who serve as sort of an adjunct farm

system for the rest of Major League Baseball. Well, Tim, I have to say it is such an honor to talk to a Murtaugh. My father grew up in the Pittsburgh area, attended games when your grandfather was the manager. My dad says he's the best. manager in Pirates history, hands down. No one's even close. He also was a Pirates player. Second Missman, right? So definitely, you know, even though we are long-suffering fans, we have a special place in our heart for those Pittsburgh Pirates. Tim Berthaw, it's great to have you on board as a contributor to the Daily Signal and Visiting Fellow at the Heritage Foundation. Thanks so much for joining us today. You bet, Rob. Thank you very much.

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In response to Pete Parisi's article, Rush Limbaugh's rare voice extolled individual liberty and limited government. John Wilkerson of Germantown Maryland writes, Although Rush is gone, the spirit of America lives on, and another patriot will pick up the banner and continue to fight for conservatism. Ironically, the mainstream media who despise Rush so much are the reason for his success. If the fake media had reported honestly and fairly, there would never have been a realist. reason for Rush to step forward. Rush Limbaugh provided fact-based conversations in contrast to agenda-driven content. Thanks, Rush. And in response to that same piece, Sherry Shearer of New Bloomfield, Pennsylvania writes, I'd like to thank Peter Perisi for his wonderful tribute to Rush Limbaugh.

He was an amazing man, smart, funny, and also very sweet. When Rush would get calls from young people, I think he just loved that he was influencing their lives in a positive way. He seemed genuinely thrilled to be talking to them. His charitable side showed in the money he raised for the Tunnel to Towers Foundation. I believe somewhere in the vicinity of $5 million. Not too shabby. Rush's insights were always invaluable, many times causing me to say, wow, I never thought of it like that before.

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Virginia, we love starting the week with a good news story. What do you have for us today? Thanks so much, Rob. Every child deserves to smile. That is the philosophy of an eight-year-old girl named Peyton. Peyton recently learned that there are about 2.5 million American kids who experience homelessness, every year. So she decided she needed to take action to help because as she told Fox News, I don't really like the sound of that. The young Wisconsin native wanted to do something to help

children in her community and bond who do not have a home to call their own and who are facing really challenging circumstances. So she asked her mom if she could invite 100 homeless children to her birthday party. The pandemic has prevented the young philanthropist from three. drawing a big party, but it has certainly not stopped her from launching an initiative to help homeless children. Peyton decided to found the group Eye of a Child to spread awareness about child homelessness, collect toys, and raise money for kids in need. Peyton is sending the items collected and the money to homeless shelters in the Milwaukee area and in Los Angeles where some of her family lives. The Eye of a Child website states that homelessness devastates many children locally

and on a global scale. With the growth of child poverty, it's up to us, the change makers, to keep these children feeling safe and grounded in tumultuous times. Peyton has created a T-shirt and homemade Cran Hearts to sell in order to raise money for the initiative. Her local community has been very quick to support her, allowing her to sell her items outside of their businesses. She recently sent toys, goodie bags filled with hygiene products,

and a $500 check to a $1,000. check to a women's shelter in Milwaukee called Joy House. Every child in the shelter received a brand new toy from Peyton. Peyton told Fox News that if you have a dream, please follow it. Don't give up because you probably can reach your goal. And the young girl's own next goal is to raise $1,000 to continue to meet the needs of homeless children. Just such a precious story. It's always so good to see individuals who are stepping up to help others, but it's especially wonderful to see a young person who's taking that initiative to perform acts of kindness towards others. It sure is, Virginia. Thanks so much for bringing us that story today. We certainly appreciate it

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