The Daily Signal - Calls for Biden to Step Aside Following Debate, Chevron Decision Overturned, SCOTUS Rules on Jan. 6 Case | June 28

Episode Date: June 28, 2024

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Democrats are panicking after President Joe Biden's train wreck debate performance. I'm Virginia Allen, and this is the Daily Signal Top News for Friday, June 28. Last night, former President Donald Trump and President Joe Biden faced off on the debate stage at CNN Studios in Atlanta. Well, the biggest conversation after the debate was Biden's rocky start, his stumbles, and some striking claims made by former President Donald Trump. I want to take a minute to play a clip of what. what Biden had to say in the first few minutes of the debate, a few minutes that a lot of people have pointed to where the president stumbled over his words. Let's go ahead and take a listen to that.

Making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible for what I've been able to do with the COVID, excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with, Look, if we finally beat Medicare. Executive Vice President of Heritage Action for America, Ryan Walker, joins us now to discuss. Ryan, thanks for being with us. If you would, give your initial reaction to Biden's performance last night. Yeah, thank you for having me on. I mean, listen, the American people are already talking about this.

It's being covered by the media. the performance last night left a lot of people questioning not only whether Joe Biden is the correct candidate for the Democrats to run in November, but whether he's the right person to be leading the country right now. And that, to me, is the most stunning thing that has come out of all of this, is that Joe Biden is the man in the White House walking around with the nuclear codes. And I think everyone woke up this morning with the understanding that he's, not making the decisions in the White House. I think that was also, Ryan, for me, one of the most shocking things.

I was watching both CNN and MSNBC after the debate and seeing the comments that were made by the commentators on those platforms. It was not the usual. They were using very strong language to indicate that maybe it was time for a change and for maybe a different candidate, which was really surprising to see. Did Biden have any major wins last night? I don't think so. And that's the other side of this debate that I hope is not lost on the American people.

What Joe Biden put on display was falsehoods. He told us that he cares about the plight of the American people and how they're struggling to afford food for their kitchen table. But he has created the situation that they are all having to deal with in these price increases, whether it be their home prices, mortgage prices, gas, groceries, rent, it doesn't matter. They're having to pay it, and he is the one that created it. He pretends to care about the border, but his administration is the one that led in over 8 million people into this country.

He pretends to care about health care for the elderly, but his administration is the one that is attacking Medicare Advantage, one of the highest consumer satisfaction government programs in existence. So that, to me, was the most striking dichotomy on stage last night was the falsehoods that this administration is putting out and trying to sell to the American people. Luckily, I don't think anyone's buying it. How about Trump? I saw some various criticisms for Trump, including people kind of rolling their eyes at the fact that at one point he talked about his golf game. What was your biggest takeaway from Trump's performance?

I thought that President Trump put on a great showing of what he thinks and believes. This is a guy who cares about the future of the country. This is a man who is independently wealthy and did not have to do this job. But he is coming back into politics because he sees the direction of the country and he is so alarmed. We have lost our footing on the international stage. we are laughed at and mocked by our adversaries. China, Iran, North Korea have now all sort of aligned and created a new axis of evil in this world, determined to bring down the United States as the single and lone superpower in the world.

And so, you know, Mr. Trump wants to bring us back to a time where the people can respect and have admiration for the country, that they live in and where they're from. And that's what he put on display. These sort of snickering comments on the side about his golf game I think are laughable because what he was trying to articulate is that he is capable, ready, and willing to do the job, which his opponent, Joe Biden, is clearly not able to do. Ryan, let's assume for a minute that both Trump and Biden remain the candidates, remain the nominees.

Did last night's debate change the way that Americans are going to vote, or at least maybe influence? Oh, it has to. It has to. If you could put policy aside, which again, I really, I hope that people don't, because I think that the falsehoods on display last night were. truly something. But at the end of the day, the American people who watched that debate last night walking into the polling booth in November, they cannot, in good conscience, vote for someone that they know cannot, will not be able to perform the duties of the office. And it gets back to that central point around who is running the country right now. We're five or six months out from the election, and we still have someone that needs to make decisions in the executive office. And what was on display last night, I think, should scare, scare every American.

Heritage Action for America's Ryan Walker. Ryan, thanks for your time today. Thank you for having me on. Following last night's debate, the head of the Democratic National Committee chairman, Jamie Harrison, told the press that Biden is still the Democratic. presidential nominee, per the Washington Examiner. In the end of the day, the American people have to decide who's going to fight for me and my family and my community? I believe with my whole heart that that's Joe Biden. And I think

the vice president said it so clearly last night that a presidency is not defined by a 90 minutes debate. It's about the policies and the actions that you take throughout that. As National Review reminded its readers this morning, there are 1,900,000. 76 delegates that are required to win the Democratic nominee. And Biden has 3,894 of those delegates are 99% of pledged delegates. Meanwhile, there are not only calls for Biden to step out of the race, but to be removed from office following his debate performance. Utah Republican Senator Mike Lee and Florida Republican Senator Rick Scott both say a serious

conversation should be had regarding if the 25th Amendment should be invoked to remove the president from office right now. And in the House, Texas Republican Congressman Chip Roy filed a resolution today urging Vice President Kamala Harris to immediately convene the cabinet and invoke the 25th Amendment and take the position of acting president. Harris, however, has dismissed the concerns about Biden's performance in the debate. Harris called Biden's performance last night, one that had a slow start, but added that she thought that the president had a strong finish. The next presidential debate is scheduled for September 10th and will be hosted by ABC News. While much of the news remained focused on the debate today and what Democrats may or may not do

in response, today was also a big day in the legal world. The Supreme Court released three decisions here with us to discuss those decisions from the justices and what the rulings mean for the American People is Heritage Foundation Senior Legal Fellow Hans von Bikovsky. Hans, thanks for being with us. Sure, thanks for having me. Let's start with the biggest case from today, and that was the court's ruling that overturns so-called Chevron deference. Hans, this case is seen really as a big win for the American people, for businesses specifically. To understand this ruling and what it means, we have to start with what exactly is Chevron deference. Can you explain that? Yeah, and what people need to understand is that this is probably the biggest battle win against the administrative state and the war we're fighting in 40 years.

Wow. And that's why it's so important. 40 years ago, the Supreme Court issued this really bad decision is called Chevron. And in it, they basically said that when Congress passes a law, a law that gives a federal agency, like the Security and Exchange Commission or the Department of Justice, the ability to issue regulations that will implement. the law, the court should defer to the agency's interpretation of that law. So if you as a citizen sued because you thought one of these federal agencies was doing something, it didn't have the power to do, the courts really wouldn't help you because they'd say, well, you know, we're just

going to defer to the agency's interpretation of their power. And what the Supreme Court said today is that's wrong, we're overturning that decision. The courts should not defer to federal agencies. We are the ones that make the decisions on the proper application of the law. By the way, this was also a lesson to Congress, which is when you pass a law, be sure it's clear. You know, don't pass ambiguous laws that give these federal agencies the ability to stretch whatever the law is far beyond what it was intended to do. And this was a 6-3 ruling. And the case was actually brought and kind of came up

with this situation regarding commercial fishermen. And then having to have someone on board their vessel that was a federal sort of inspector that made sure they were checking and doing all the things right. So what does this mean now for those fishermen that brought the case? Well, it wasn't just that the federal government was telling them they had to have an inspector on their boats when they went out fishing, but the fishermen had to pay the federal employees' salary.

Just nuts. And there was, yeah, it is nuts. I mean, it just defies common sense, but the federal government was pushing the case. And so this is a huge win, not just for Americans, but for these fishermen who now aren't going to be saddled with the salaries of federal employees, as if federal employees don't get paid enough over them. Well, that was not the only major decision out today. We also got decisions on a case related to homelessness and on January 6th. Let's talk about the homelessness case for a second. This was also

a 6-3 decision. The court ruled in Oregon versus Johnson was the name of the case. And they said that cities can crack down on homeless people sleeping in public. What exactly does this mean for cities and towns across the United States that are battling homelessness? Well, if folks can remember back far enough, you know, homelessness in cities to the point where every public park, every bridge, everything is totally occupied with people in Tesla, that was never a problem before. It became a problem once the federal courts, and in this case, particularly the Ninth Circuit, U.S. Court of Appeals, said, you know, local laws, local ordinances that prevent people from camping, in public spaces like public parks, they violate the Eighth Amendment.

The Eighth Amendment. The Eighth Amendment is the amendment that says that you can't impose cruel and unusual punishment. When the founders put that amendment in, you know, what they were trying to do was to stop things that the English King used to do, like drawing and quartering people, torturing them to death. That was what was intended. The idea that it stopped you from arresting someone who's illegally camping in a public park was just absurd. But that had become the ruling all over the country. And that was one of the reasons why cities have been unable to do anything about the homeless problem.

This decision is key to cities to finally be able to try to clean up that problem. The final ruling that we had today was that of the January 6th case. The Supreme Court, again, ruled three to six, in favor of capital-right defendants. What does this really mean? The Justice Department was, certainly in my opinion, abusing a law that had been passed as part of Sarbanes-Oxley. You know, that was a law passed, what, two decades ago when we had some banking failures. And they put in a provision that said that it was a criminal violation of the law, for you to alter evidence, like documents, or tamper with a witness in an official proceeding.

And what they obviously were talking about was, for example, a court proceeding, you know, changing evidence, tampering with a witness. Yet those charges were lodged against the protesters on January 6th. And it's a severe statute. It's a criminal. It was used to enhance their sentences. And what the Supreme Court said today, and this case, by the way, is brought by a policeman who was one of the protesters. What the court said was, look, you have to stick to the text of this statute.

What it says is you could only be charged if you were tampering with evidence or trying to change a witness's testimony in an official proceeding. Well, none of the J6 protesters were doing that. Yeah, some of them were engaging in criminal trespassing, but they were. weren't doing what the statute says you have to do before you violate it. And so it basically brought this statute that had been twisted totally out of shape by Merrick Garland, the current attorney general, and brings it back to what it was intended to do. And that, I think, is going to help a lot of these defendants who I think were overcharged by the Justice Department. Hans, thank you so much for your analysis. I know Monday we have our final day of rulings from

the Supreme Court. We'll be watching that. But hope you have a wonderful weekend. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me. We end today's show as we end all of our Friday shows with a movie review headed into the weekend. I don't know if you ever rewatch movies. I am a little bit of a stickler for not rewatching movies, but it has to be a really good movie for me to sit down and say, yeah, this one is worth a second watch. And that is the case with a film that I saw not too long ago called The Boys in the Boat. I saw it for the first time in December and just rewatched it again the other week. It's an excellent film that is based on the true story of the University of Washington's rowing team and their climb to the 1936 Berlin Olympics. The movie is set during the Great Depression and it really shows the challenges of what so many Americans, especially young college students, were facing during that time.

And I must say, if your family is anything like my family, it is very hard to find a film that the whole family can enjoy. But this one got the stamp of approval from mom, dad, brother-in-law, sister. Everyone really enjoyed this film. It's rated PG-13, so a good one maybe to watch with teenagers. Your younger kids might be a little bit bored by it because there are a lot of conversations, but really brilliantly acted, beautiful cinematography and just a wonderful and inspirational sports movie that has a very, very powerful message. Again, the title of the movie is The Boys in the Boat. And if you want to stream it this weekend, you can find it on Prime Video, MGM Plus,

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