The Daily Signal - Conservative Women Make History in 2020 Election

Episode Date: November 12, 2020

The 2020 election was a major win for conservative women in the House of Representatives. Come January, more women will have seats in Congress than ever before in the history of the nation.  Jessica Anderson, executive director of Heritage Action for America, the grassroots partner organization of The Heritage Foundation, joins the show to discuss the 13 newly elected Republican female representatives and how their leadership will affect America. Anderson also breaks down what might happen next in the presidential election as claims of voter fraud and litigation both continue.  We also chat with the editor-in-chief of The Daily Signal, Kate Trinko, about what she saw on her trip to Philadelphia last weekend as voters reacted to the election news.  Enjoy the show! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is the Daily Signal podcast for Thursday, November 12th. I'm Rachel Dahl Judas. And I'm Virginia Allen. We have a special show for you all today. In addition to co-hosting the Daily Signal podcast, I also co-host Problematic Women with my Heritage Foundation colleague Lauren Evans. And today, we are sharing this week's Problematic Women podcast episode with you all right here on the Daily Signal podcast. This week, Lauren and I spoke with Jessica Anderson, the exact. Director of Heritage Action for America to discuss what the big wins were for conservative women in the 2020 election and what may be next as claims of voter fraud continue to surface in the presidential election. We also chat with Kate Trinco about what she saw on her trip to Philadelphia last weekend as voters reacted to election results. We hope you enjoy this preview of problematic women on the Daily Signal podcast.

And don't forget, if you're enjoying this podcast, please be sure to leave a review or a five-star rating on Apple Podcasts and encourage others to subscribe. We are so excited to welcome back Jessica Anderson, the Executive Director of Heritage Action for America. Back to Problematic Women. Jessica, it's so great to have you on the show. Thank you for having me. It's great to be here today. Today we are breaking down the election and why the 2020 election was a big win, for conservative women in the House. I want to begin by just chatting a little bit about the ways

Heritage Action supported strong conservative candidates throughout the election. So what was your mission as an organization going into the election? So going into the election, Heritage Action really wanted to tell the story of all of the policy issues that were at stake this election. It wasn't just candidates on the ballot. It really was and is two different choices for the future. If a and really two different choices on who you trust most when you look at things like health care, economic recovery, holding China accountable, providing safety and security in your neighborhoods. And so all of these issues matter. We know that they matter to voters.

And so Heritage Action sought to make those issues really permeate in a district at the local level so that voters saw past just the Red Team Blue Team on the ticket and really voted on their policy issues. So Penny Nance, she's the president of Conservative Women for America. She wrote in a recent Fox News op-ed that the only wave in 2020 was the election of conservative women to the U.S. House of Representatives. The 11 conservative women running for re-election won and then at least another 13 conservative women were newly elected, which really doubles the number of conservative women in Congress. That's huge, so exciting. Why do you think that we saw such a significant number of conservative women elected? Well, I think 2020 is the year of the woman, but for real, this time. I love that. Like, the white women. And I think the story has to go back to Justice Amy Coney-Barritt as the first ever female originalists now to sit on the Supreme Court.

She really embodied and I think paved the way for these strong, smart women who care both about their country and their families. to succeed and following her are the 11 incumbent GOP House women that kept their seats and then now 13 new women that were successful at the ballot box. And I think that they were successful because they made their election about policy. They made their election about here's who's going to Washington to get the job done for you. Not for a special interest, not for business as usual, but to advance common sense kitchen table issues amidst a very chaotic and crazy Washington. And the larger story of all of this that I think is super interesting right now is that these women really represent, I think, a complete new shift and rebirth, if you will, of feminism. That it's no longer about choosing between a career and family or between empowerment or conservative.

between freedom or servitude. It really is an opportunity that you can choose to do both. And you can do it in a way that protects your family, strengthens your family with a partner, and still have a fulfilling and lasting professional career. And I, for one, am just thrilled that we have shattered kind of all of the norms around feminism that's only celebrated one type of woman, the liberal pro-choice woman.

We basically turn that on its head and we're celebrating. Justice Barrett just as much as I'm celebrating these new 13 conservative women that have just been elected to the House. Jess, I couldn't agree more. And I love that you brought up Judge Barrett because it's just, you know, it's like a one-two punch. Like you're just, you're, you got to get so hyped thinking about all these wonderful women now being part of the United States government. I want to pivot a little bit and talk about one of the great programs you have over at Heritage Action, which is your Sentinel program. Can you tell me a little bit about that? So a Heritage Action Sentinel's are basically the front line for freedom in congressional districts across the country.

They know the issues. They lead in their communities. They're grassroots, all-stars. They've got relationships with their members of Congress. And in the case of 13, very brave individuals, sentinels actually ran for elected office this cycle. And so we had sentinels that won positions from a soil and water conservation job in Florida. to county commissioners, multiple state representatives and state senators. And then now the incoming Congresswoman from New Mexico's second district of Vett Herald, who has been a Sentinel with us for over five years. And we're so excited to welcome her here to Washington to serve in the U.S. Congress.

I am so excited that she was elected. We are actually, we're hoping to interview her on the Daily Signal podcast sometime soon. And she is just fantastic. Could you just take a minute to tell us a little bit more about Harold and who she is and what her vision is coming into Congress? Well, she is fantastic. I hope you can spend some time with her later. She fought an incredibly hard race in New Mexico's second district.

And she's really unique. She's a member of the Cherokee Nation for real. She will be the first Native American Republican woman to serve in the U.S. Congress. But even more than any of that, she's an entrepreneur. She's a strong and fierce defender of the Second Amendment. She's unabashedly pro-life. And she is going to be a leader amongst many women coming in for conservative issues here in Washington. She knows what it takes to stand up for conservative policy.

And I'm so excited to work with her in her professional capacity now, as she hopes to represent New Mexico, too. It's been a long time coming. and we're really proud of her. Among other congresswomen who have been elected, newly elected, are there others that you think, gosh, you really, as a conservative woman, you have to keep your eye on these new representatives? Who should we be watching out for? Oh, for sure.

So there's actually a long list. Marjorie Green is the next congresswoman from Georgia's 14th district. She's a mom. I think she has three kids. She's a business owner. She's super strong. on border security, fierce advocate for Second Amendment rights. I'm looking forward to seeing what she does. Mary Miller out of Illinois 15. She's a mother of seven, grandmother of 17 grandchildren.

She teaches Sunday school. She's ran her family farm for the last 40 years. I mean, just a testament of someone that chose to pursue a career and to have a loving family. And then let's not overlook Senator-elect Llamis on the Senate side. This is a woman that is well-known. She previously served in the House. She was a founding member of the Conservative House Freedom Caucus at the time. But she also is a mother, a grandmother. She's a cattle rancher.

And she's now going to be Wyoming's senator. And so we're super excited for her and eager to see her join the ranks of Senator. Joni Ernst and Marsha Blackburn and Kelly Leffler, all strong women that have come into the Senate to lead for conservative issues on everything from life issues to really interesting things in finance, in ag, and certainly in the efforts of health care. So I'm looking forward to working with her as well. I know I'm such a nerd. I love the House Freedom Caucus. And I just can't wait for the day where we do conversations with conservatives at the Daily Signal and with the Heritage Foundation. And that's where the House Freedom Caucus comes and do a press conference. And I just

can't wait for the day I show up and it's half women, half men and women are represented there. It's just going to be such a, I don't know, a proud lady moment for me. A proud lady moment. I mean, that's an awesome way to think about it, right? Conservative women are resolute. And it seems like we've finally come to the other side of, you know, the very harsh and extreme feminist movement of the last 30 years and we're ready to reclaim the original type of feminism that started in Seneca Falls and take it back for conservative women and be what it's really supposed to be about, which is providing opportunity and advancement for all women, not just a specific type of women. And I think that's why so many people are so excited about Justice Barrett, about these 13 new

House members, about Senator Lummis. I mean, these are a lot of reasons to be proud of the movement right now. And that's such a great segue to my next question is, how do you think this will affect the pro-life movement and pro-life legislation on Capitol Hill? Well, I think it's certainly going to help. I think that first and foremost, women are, are, have more issues than just life issues that we care about. Life is a huge issue and women in particular have such a strength to talk about it, to talk about the unique role of being a mom, of delivering a child and protecting life at its most, you know, at its most early phase in the womb. And so I think when you have women talking about this issue, it really attacks the left that tries to say, you know, no women should have

their abortion and put aside their family to pursue their career. We're going to be able to talk directly about that and kind of pushed out in the corner, which I think is going to be really strong. But even more so than that, I think not only with the women coming in, but this wave of pro-life members writ large, I think is more so evidence of just pushing back against the extremism of the liberal left right now in their complete celebration of abortion, you know, shouting their abortion, being comfortable with things like infanticide. I mean, this is no longer the party of rare. and safe, this is the party of extreme and celebratory.

And so having pro-life members, supporting the Hyde Amendment, trying to get Planned Parenthood funding out of the federal government, out of taxpayers' pockets, and really limiting all of that and working back at the state level, I think is significant. It's certainly a moment in this country where things are changing. And I'm excited for this new wave of women to come in and speak authoritatively. on this issue. So, Jessica, let's talk just for a moment kind of big picture presidential election. We're still watching this election unfold and that there are a number of lawsuits which both

the Trump campaign and the Republican Party have filed in an effort to make sure that there was no voter fraud. So can you just explain what exactly is happening with these lawsuits right now? Absolutely. So right now we are in a situation. where not every state has officially certified the election. Yes, you have the major media networks that have come in and called the election, but that's not really their role. It really is the role of the states to certify it. And we are still waiting on that to come through, but we're also waiting on the recount in the state like Georgia. And so there's going to be a lot of balls up in the air for the litigation and recount efforts. And it's important to be patient.

It's important to recognize, as Vice President Biden has said, that democracy takes time and time is what we need right now to make sure. So when you look at the litigation that's going on, what's trying to be done is an assessment of whether or not legal votes were counted. So you look at a state like Pennsylvania that has had on-record fraud where absentee ballots don't have dual signatures, where they were sent in and postmarked after the date. those are the types of ballots that should be thrown out and not counted. Unfortunately, it looks like that they were counted. And so what litigation will do is it'll reach back in at the most local level to these state board of elections and basically go through and certify whether or not the votes were legal or not.

And so that takes time. And it also takes people to be in the room helping count these ballots and ensure the sanctity of our election. So I think we all need to just, you know, be really patient to see this process. unfold. If we rewind back to 2000 with Bush v. Gore, it took 36 days for the country to basically be on pins and needles and wait for Florida to be officially called. If you remember then, Vice President Gore thought he had won, started resuming activities as if he had won, but he was never president, right? And so I think we need to let the legal system run its course

and recognize that there is fraud that exists, and whether or not it's enough to flip our election or not, we don't know. And that's the point of the litigation. So that's where we are. Unfortunately, I think it means we're going to have to be patient a little bit longer. But in the meantime, all eyes are definitely turning to Georgia. We recognize that regardless of what happens with the presidential,

that the two Senate races in Georgia are paramount to the future of the Senate, and in many ways the future of our republic, because of everything that the Senate will be responsible for going forward the next two to four years. Jess, is there any rush to get these election results? The Electoral College doesn't meet until December, correct? Right. The Electoral College meets in December, and they would certify the official votes the first week of January. And so, you know, there is a little bit of a rush when you look at how much time between now and then

and how much time it takes to go county to county. But in terms of the major media networks jumping the gun before these states were able to finish counting and get their results out, I think that they were premature and they need to slow down. And we need to wait. And we have a legal system in place for a reason. And that is what needs to run its course right now. What happens if voter fraud does go unchecked? What does that ultimately mean for the future of our democracy?

Well, let's hope that never happens, right? We know that voter fraud exists. We know that there are manipulations at the local level. And then there's simple slip-ups like people forgetting to do a double signature or having the witness signature or they postmarked their absentee at a later date or in a state like Nevada where you had a state send out mail-in ballots to every single voter without even their requests. So some of this stuff is going to have to be fixed at the state level.

And I think that you see a model of state legislation, of changes that were made to a state like Florida after the 2000 election. That can really be a model for other states in the country that need to tighten up on some of their voter laws. You also look at states that continue to have same-day registration, no voter ID, and you just, of course, there's going to be fraud because there's no safeguards in place to safeguard against it.

So ultimately, if this fraud is allowed to run unchecked for years and years and years to come, I think that just deteriorates our trust in the electoral system. It deteriorates our trust in the election process itself. But that's why we're working so hard to make sure that this election is not built on the backs of fraud, but that it is actually fair and reflective of what voters want. And that's ultimately what we want, right? At the end of the day, we want to have confidence that whoever is representing us, whether in the House, in the Senate or as president, that they got there legally. They got there legally not through, you know, fraud and voter manipulation. Well, and I love on the left, you know, the goalposts keep shifting. Before the election, it was, you know, voter fraud doesn't happen. It's just voter suppression. And now, you know, the Biden is up in some states. It's now, oh, okay, voter fraud happens, but it's not enough to. sway the election and they'll never talk about voter suppression again.

Yeah, the hypocrisy of the left, the last 10 days, if I could count the list of things. I mean, we need a whole other show for that guy. It has been, it has just been wild. I mean, one, go back to this issue of feminism that we started talking about. I mean, you would have thought that, you know, Kamala Harris is the end, all, be all for everything women. I mean, look no further on this hypocrisy than just the complete contrast between the praise for her versus the response from the media to Justice Barrett. One is completely lauded for shattering the glass ceiling and every little girl's dream has come true and the other is smeared and made to be a character. And, you know, on Kamala Harris, I've seen so many posts of, well, regardless of what you believe, just be glad that a woman is there.

And it's like two things. one, if everyone on the left really believes so much in women and race, why is it that Kamala Harris only got 1% in the primary? She didn't even, she wasn't able to be at the top of the ticket. She wasn't elected at the top of the ticket. She was appointed as the running mate to Joe Biden. So like, let's just be clear about how much people actually wanted to elevate her versus Joe Biden. So that's one. But then two, I mean, at the end of the day, I'm not sure that I'm in a place to celebrate someone that I completely disagree with, their views and beliefs on everything from life to economic issues. I mean, at a certain point,

we have to celebrate the people that most align with what we believe in. Yes, we should be respectful. Yes, we should find places to work together. But going out of our way to celebrate anyone that we are fundamentally opposed to with our belief system, I think is a step too far. And at the end of the day, we probably should recognize that as a society that people really just cheer for the people they agree with. Yeah, well said. I think there's such a need to get back to a concrete focus on the policy issues and actually looking at where do these individuals stand on the issues that I care about on the issues that are going to affect generations to come. It's really critical. We have to do our homework on that.

Absolutely. Jessica, we could keep going and going on this. We're going to let you go. Thank you so much for joining this show. It's been great to chat about both the successes that we've seen and some of just the exciting news we've seen during this election. And then also just this ongoing process as we're continuing to watch things litigated and this whole process unfold.

Absolutely. Thank you so much for having me. And I would say, go women. Go women. Stay tuned because up next we're going to be talking with Kate Trinko about what she saw in Philadelphia over the weekend as Americans took to the streets after multiple media outlets declared Joe Biden the winner of the election. But first, I want to tell you all about where you can find all of the Daily Signal's latest videos and documentaries, and that is YouTube, of course. The Daily Signal YouTube page offers short videos that breakdown policy issues and some longer do. documentaries, like the recent video we released on the Sisters who ran the ice cream shop in

Kenosha, which was burned to the ground by rioters. We always have new content coming out. So, if you're not driving, go ahead and bought your phone and subscribe to the Daily Signal YouTube page so you never miss another video. It is a wild time in American history. And one of the things that I think this season will end up being really marked by is all of the protests and the rallies in the streets. Of course, we've seen that some of them have been violent and others are just loud, people getting out and practicing their First Amendment right. Our colleague Kate Trinco was in Philadelphia this past weekend and was one of those people out on the streets, mainly observing and talking with Americans about their thoughts on the election results. And we're super

excited to have Kate here with us today to share what she saw. Kate, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me. So you wrote this great piece for the Daily Signal titled Six Things I saw at Dueling Trump Biden rallies in Philadelphia. And we're going to talk about some of those things that you saw. But first, can you just set the scene for us? Because this was a wild weekend in Philadelphia. And you got up there right around the time that a number of media outlets declared that Biden had won Pennsylvania, putting him over the 270 electoral votes needed. to win the White House. So what exactly was that scene in Philly?

Yeah, I did not exactly know what I was getting into. Like, obviously I knew that Philadelphia was the site of vote counting in Pennsylvania was one of the most contested states. But I very much underestimated what it was like. And actually, I found out that the media had called the race for Joe Biden. I actually sent Virginia a pitcher. I was at a rest stop in Delaware called the Biden Welcome Center. And I was like, why is everyone taking selfies in front of the sign? And then I got a text from Virginia who actually let me know that the media had declared Biden the winner. And I was like, oh. So I was about 45 minutes outside of Philly at that point. So I get into Philly. And it is crazy. There is so much honking in the center city area. I at one point was next to a woman.

and she's honking her horn and screaming, woo-hoo, woo-hoo. And then I was behind one of those tourist buses. And on the roof of it, there's girls taking selfies and doing the peace sign and, like, I think, shouting. And just it's very, very noisy. You know, and part of me was, although I have a lot of, you know, concerns about President's Biden's policies, it was like, well, I guess I would rather people be celebrating than burning stuff down. But yeah, the honking just continued throughout the afternoon in the Center City. It just had this crazy atmosphere.

People were just really, really excited. But then, as you mentioned, there was also a pro-Trump rally. And I had known that there were going to be people from both sides there. And that's why I thought it would be so interesting to check it out. Kate, I was also in D.C. this weekend. And it was the same thing. Like I was in my apartment and the weather was nice and the windows were open. I was like, that's weird. There's a lot of traffic. And then I realized it was people right around the city honking their horns. But you spoke with a woman who said that she supported President Trump because she actually had lived in communist China. Can you tell us a little bit about that conversation? Yeah. So one of the things that I noticed at the Trump side of things was how diverse it was, which is really not, of course, the depiction of the mainstream media gives. So I spoke to this one woman. Her name is Michelle. She didn't want to give her last name. And yeah, she had lived in China and she said that

she supported Trump because she thought freedom mattered. She was concerned that Biden was going to take the country in a socialist direction. She noted that in China, people's voice cannot be heard. She was worried the same could happen in the U.S. And she said that, you know, she voted for Trump, that she voted for freedom because I want to say whatever I want to say. And I thought that was a really powerful perspective. And you talk to what? No, sorry. You were probably thinking I was doing the next one. Oh, yeah. No, that's okay. I know. I carry the way to the show on my back. I make you do everything. I just not make myself laugh so much.

Listen, audience, if you didn't know, Lauren's got a little bit of an email. Kate, you talked to lots of folks. You also had a conversation with a former Obama supporter who turned a Trump supporter. So why did that person make that change? I don't think I've ever really heard that perspective from the media. Yeah, that was really interesting. his name was Dana. Again, didn't want to give his last name, which I think, you know, as a journalist, I always try to get last scenes. But at the same time, I was a little bit like, well, I can understand why people are worried in the current atmosphere, frankly. So I didn't push as hard as I might normally. But yeah, Dana was a black man. And he had a fascinating perspective. He has formerly voted for Ross Perot, Ralph Nader, and Jimmy Carter, as well as. of Barack Obama, so a true independent, I would say. So, you know, I was like, yeah, you voted for

Obama twice, what's up with that, and then switching to Trump twice. And he said he didn't trust the Clintons. He had a lot of criticism over Hillary Clinton's position on Libya, which I have to say I've talked to a lot of voters. That sort of threw me for a curveball, that that was what he focused on, but it was. And, you know, he had concerns about Biden's health and ability to stay in office. He referred to Senator Harris as, I believe, another empty suit or something along those lines. And, you know, we talked a bit. And I was like, a lot of people think Trump is racist and they're surprised that he actually did better among black male voters and black female voters, actually, this time around than he did in 2016, according to the exit polls. And, you know,

he was saying, you know, Trump has given black people opportunities. He had this one He said a lot of people would say if he's a racist, referring to Trump, he's one of the worst racist that people have ever seen. And what he was referring to is black people are doing better in America under President Trump. So if he actually hates them, like, he's not acting like it. And you know, the other interesting thing is Dana, I believe he was 63. And he told me, like, he wasn't a full citizen of the United States until he was eight.

And I was like, what do you mean? Were you an immigrant? and he was like, no. You know, I was eight years old by the time the civil rights movement, the Civil Rights Act, although that important legislation passed. So here is someone who, you know, clearly lived in a country that had very severe racism as a child and doesn't think that Trump is racist. So I just thought that was a very powerful perspective.

Yeah, it's a perspective that you certainly don't hear much from the mainstream media, but it was really interesting to see with this election that increasingly minority populations, I think, are kind of becoming more and more conservative in some of their policies, and they really, in many ways, turned out to support President Trump this election. I was really fascinated though, Kate, you took a lot of great pictures at these rallies. And one thing that you took photos of was the number of anti-Trump signs. And you said that you almost saw more anti-Trump signs than you did pro-Biden signs. And I was also in D.C. briefly on Saturday.

And I kind of noticed the same thing as I was driving through the streets that both things that people were shouting. And signs people had, it was almost less excitement over Biden and just more excitement over getting Trump out. Does this disturb you at all? I think it's, I mean, it disturbed me in so far as, you know, it seems like, I think one thing that really struck me, and it struck me a lot in the past four years, is the lack of empathy from Americans on the left toward Americans on the right. And the lack of understanding of where they're coming from and the willingness to seemingly

believe anything about Trump. And I think you just really saw that with these signs. I think one of the ones that really stuck out with me the most. And I should say, there were a lot of printed signs, you know, that said Biden Harris, but among homemade signs, it was mainly anti-Trump. And, you know, I always think if you bother to make a homemade sign, like, you're really passionate. And also as a journalist, I just love homemade signs. Like, they have the funniest messages a lot of the time. They're so interesting. So I always try to photo. as many of those as possible, and I just get such a kick out of it. But one of the ones that really wasn't funny or anything, it just read Nurses Hate Trump.

And I was like, what? I mean, I don't know. It was like it didn't really make a point about COVID. It didn't even bring up COVID as far as I saw unless there was something on the back of it. It just was like so hateful and mean and random. And I was, I don't know. That one really threw me. And yeah, I just felt like, and you can see all the signs on Daily

Signal.com that I thought were worth putting up. But yeah, just a lot of anti-Trump signs, a lot of things like surrender to democracy, I believe, was one of them, felt a little random. I mean, some of it just got a little bit weird with the crowd. At one point, there was like this, I don't know if it was bicycles or cars holding it up, but this huge eagle, which Philadelphia has the Eagles football team. So I don't know. I was, I didn't really get the connection there. There was also someone had a Joe Biden flag that was like a mashup of the gay pride flag and the American flag. That was a little random. There were one or two people dressed as, Lauren will probably know this or killed me for not knowing this, but the mascot for maybe Philadelphia's hockey team, Gritty.

At first I was like, what? Did everyone just think it was Halloween or like, whatever? But then I have a friend who lives in Philadelphia, and she told me Gritty has actually become a left-wing meme. So it wasn't as random as I thought. There were a bunch of people wearing T-shirts that said, I believe it was bad things happen in Philadelphia, which I guess is a line from President Trump's debate with Vice President Joe Biden. And, yeah, I guess people in Philadelphia were like, screw you. Things do happen here. We're going to wear this T-shirt.

I don't know. It was kind of random. So there was a lot of anti-Trump stuff. Also, at one point, there was like a crowd milling around. And by the way, I just want to be clear, like everyone was wearing masks, but there was no social distancing in any of this. And I just, you know, a lot of conservatives that pointed this out. And it is infuriating when you think about some of the other roles that this all went down. But anyway, so what are these crowds? And they were just sort of random. And they were just chanting stuff. And like they were singing like goodbye song at one point, a famous one that I can't recall right now. And then at one point, actually, to my surprise, they started chanting USA. I was like, okay, that's not normally what you expect from a liberal crowd. Okay. Encouraging. Yeah. And then at another point, they started saying, you know, the F word, Donald Trump.

They did not say the F word, obviously. But so, yeah. Well, they did say the F word. They just didn't use it. Right. I'm trying to. I'm trying to. Trying to keep it PG.

Trying to keep a PG. Yeah. I just want to be clear, they were not. My younger sisters, they used to sing an Averalavine song when they were like 10 years old. And it had a swear word. And instead of singing out loud, the swear word, they would be like, D word. And that was not what this crowd was doing. Wait, what?

Aver Levine song had a bad word in it, Kate. I think this wasn't her second album. Not, not, it's complicated. but it's been a minute, Lauren. Well, Kate, what sticks out to me, I mean, this really is a tale of two Americas, and I think this is unfortunately what people are seeing. And, you know, I pulled up a tweet by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, you know, our good friend. She tweeted out, you know, is anybody archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to

downplay or deny their complicity? I mean, and you show, you know, you talk. talked about these folks who wouldn't even give you their last name because they're so afraid of being identified by supporting Trump. And then on the left, you know, it's like this big COVID doesn't exist parade. And there's just something like that just gets me so fired up thinking about that and kind of where we are in America. Yeah, and I think it's very scary. I mean, yeah, I thought AOC's tweet was alarming. I think many Trump's sick of fans are like, and did tweet at her. Like, yeah, take them all down.

I'm proud of every tweet I've written. How about it at AOC? But, you know, it's funny. Like, in his remarks on Saturday, like, you know, Vice President Biden discussed unity and all that. But I've noticed among leftists, not really, in Philadelphia, they didn't seem to get into this specifically, but just in general, like, it doesn't seem like they want to be unified.

They seem to say, like, Trump people are so evil that the only way is to change them and you can't accept them, which is... Well, they want to be unified. They want everybody to agree with them. That's the unity they want. Right, right. Like, you all have to think exactly the same. And I will say, though, one of the interesting things was...

So by the time that I got to the dueling rallies, which was a little bit... I think I was there, like, two... The Trump rally was significantly smaller than the Biden rally. And, by the way, they weren't, like, formal rallies. They were just people on either side very excited. And, I mean, that might have been because Philadelphia is a very blue city. There's not a lot of Philadelphians who vote Republican. It might have also just been that I missed.

I think it was supposed to begin at noon or something, so the highlights. But anyway, so you had these two crowds of people, and they were separated by police in the middle. And the Trump folks were like blasting some Trump speech. I'm not sure when it was from. And then the Biden people were like shouting. And they, of course, had signs, including saying F or Trump. And like, it was kind of weird to see them. Everyone lined up like that.

It had a little bit of a battle line feel. And, you know, all the cops are in the middle. And I should note, like, Philadelphia was ready for violence. And I don't think there ended up being any. But tons and tons of shops were boarded up. You know, like I passed a furniture store, a West Elm, a chain that was like, hey, we're still open. You know, ignore that we're boarded up everywhere. And, you know, like one of the first things I saw coming in the city was what I assume was the National Guard holding huge guns.

Sorry, I'm not a gun expert, so I don't know what they were. But I was like, oh, okay. And then, you know, there were just tons of police, other national guards. It had a little bit of a weird feeling, to be honest. And that'll do it for today's episode. thanks for listening to the Daily Signal podcast. You can find the Daily Signal podcast and problematic women on Google Play, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and IHeartRadio. Please be sure to leave us a review and a five-star rating on Apple Podcasts for either show and encourage others to subscribe.

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