The Daily Signal - Hannah-Claire Brimelow: Big Surprises as Trump Assembles His Team

Episode Date: November 17, 2024

On this Sunday edition of The Daily Signal Podcast, we bring you a conversation with Hannah-Claire Brimelow on the Problematic Women podcast. It's a crossover episode! “Well, I didn't see that coming” has been a somewhat common refrain on Capitol Hill this week as President-elect Donald Trump announces his picks to lead his forthcoming administration. Trump has built his brand on breaking the mold of politics and continues the trend with his Cabinet appointments.  Not every choice has been a surprise. Susie Wiles has long been on Trump’s short list to be his chief of staff, given her years of loyalty to the president and her success in managing Trump’s reelection campaign. Wiles will make history as the first female chief of a president's staff.  And Tom Homan’s experience in Border Patrol and Immigration and Customs Enforcement, coupled with his positive relationship with Trump, made him an obvious choice for “border czar.” But some of Trump’s picks were unexpected, though not necessarily in a bad way. On this week's edition of "Problematic Women," Hannah-Claire Brimelow joins the show to discuss Trump's Cabinet picks and why some are so surprising. We also fact-check some recent abortion claims. Enjoy the show! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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This has been a whirlwind of a week with all of these announcements out of the Trump, soon to be Trump administration, President elect Trump's administration of, okay, who are these people that are going to be taking the realm and taking this place of power? And some of them we kind of knew. We were like, all right, yeah, that makes sense. But my gosh, there have been a lot of surprises. Oh, my gosh, yeah. And first, I mean, again, the media is like he hates women. And Susie Wiles, first ever, chief of staff. Yeah. I mean, come on. She just killed it in the campaign with all of the insane iconic moments that will go down in history.

And now she's going to be running the White House with or well, you know, running essentially. Did you see her on election night? Like they bring everyone out. It's like, I don't know how to let you guys rub the way. It's like, so, so Jeremy from the courtroom and I did a seven and a half hour live stream. Oh, boy. But, you know, it went by so fast. Yeah.

We were just like, well, we're in it. Like, we're going to see what happens. And, you know, watching her. come out on, like the whole crowd of people come out and Trump is like, hello, and you are great. And all my wonderful children. In my mind, the way he says, his children is, you know, my children, Eric, Don Jr. Baron, Ivanka, Tiffany Barron. My God. He mentions Baron like 500 times. That's not how he did it. But, you know, he shouts out all of his 100 children and their in-laws. And eventually he is like, where is Susie?

Right. And Susie Wilde was like, comes to the front. And then was like, but this guy, to come with me. They're like he's like, Trump's like, please say something. And she's like, yep, you say something. And it fades to the back. It is so fascinating to see this woman who had this opportunity to make this woman like her talking point. And she's like, I'm here to work and I have a purpose. So I am really fascinated by Suzy Wiles. I can't wait to see what she does. And to your point, yes, first female to hold the role. Is I'm going to get any credit for this? No. And part because I think he just appointed her because she was good. And that's what I think that bothers me the most about you guys probably have this conversation 100,000 times, but about Kamala Harris

is going to be our potentially our first female president. And that's so important. And women, don't you want a female president? What about just a good president? You know, I think, I think, you know, there's more likely to be a conservative or Republican female, first female president because they will just run her like a person as opposed to a token. Yeah. And I think that's similar to how Trump is staffing right now. Like, Susie Wilde is good until she deserves it. And yeah, you can give him the feminist credit. Like, cool that he's doing that. It's not bad.

But instead, I think the left ring reaction was like, well, why hasn't there been one before? Right. I don't know. Ask Joe Biden. He's been in the White House for the past four years. Like, if you wanted one so badly, but, you know, sort of derangement. Trump can never do anything right. Yeah, no, it 100% is.

Well, I was excited to see Tom Homan be appointed as borders are. And that one was not surprising. We kind of knew that this was coming. Tom Homan was the. deputy director or acting director of ice rather. And so he has and started out his career years and 30 plus years ago and border patrol. I mean, just has this amazing resume. And I've had the privilege of interviewing him on the daily little podcast and for written articles. And he's like the straightest shooter you will possibly find like he will just tell you like it is. Hey, this is my plan. This is my agenda.

And I will say in, because I think you kind of see that outside, right? A little bit this like tough guy. Tom Homan is one of those guys who was incredibly tough and has this, like, very, very tender heart that I've had the privilege of seeing a couple times. When I have spoken with him specifically around the issue of what happens to kids at the border, he gets very emotional, very fast. And he makes it very clear that's one of the main reasons why Tom Homan says, like, I'm so dedicated to securing the border is because kids are so exploited at our southern border. and I've been in meetings before where literally he chokes up talking about the stories of this is what I've seen happen to kids. And so for Trump to tap him as borders are not only an excellent choice, but just someone who's really, I think, going to hold the line, not just because he's like, we need to follow the law, but because there is like an emotional aspect there for him that he knows in securing the border, you're protecting the world's most vulnerable, especially children and especially women. So he did like a 10, 15 minute interview on Fox News. Let's go ahead and just roll a clip of that of sort of his thought process of accepting this role as Trump's borders are.

I've been out of this network four years complaining about what this administration did to this border. I've been yelling and screaming about it, telling them what they need to do to fix it. So when the president asked me, would you come back and fix it? Of course it has to. I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't. So look, I'm honored. The president asked me to come back and help solve this NASA security crisis. so I'm looking forward to it.

And look, I love Fox. I love the family there. But I think the calling is clear. I got to go back and hope because every morning I get up, every morning I'm pissed off and what this administration did the most secure border in my lifetime. So I'm going to go back and do what I can to fix it. I love the energy.

And I don't know if you've seen on X the comparisons between him and Harris as the borders are because, like, obviously the title started under the Biden administration. but so different from, well, I haven't been to Europe. Well, we're working on it. The border is secure. It's not a problem. And in comparison, I was able to actually, a week before the election, he came and spoke at an event that I was hosting. And just the genuine passion, I want to say, I almost want to say disgust just because there is a lot of feeling towards it.

But it's not just a frustration or disgust with the border. I know how to fix this because I've worked my entire career on this issue at many different levels. And I think that's what my favorite part about a lot of these appointments have been. It hasn't just been, you know, a random person that checks a few boxes on the DEI calculator or whatever. It's literally people that have committed their life in one way or another and are passionate about solving the problem and will solve the problem. Just like Tom Homan said on that interview and how he's literally like 60 minutes and all of these news outlets have tried to trip him up. And he has great answers. What do you have to say about deporting children?

Are you going to separate them from their parents? Easy solution. We'll deport them together. I mean, he literally knows everything there is about the policy because that has been his life. And that is the consistent thing we've seen with a lot of these appointments. Susie Wiles, killer manager for not just campaigns, but now the White House. Another person I'm excited to see is Pete Hegseth, who. That was, I think, so far, the most surprising pick that I have seen.

I texted Virginia yesterday. I was like, whoa. What are your thoughts on that appointment? I mean, this is interesting to see someone who, like, I don't think anyone suspected that on either side. Truly, why not? Why do you think they didn't? I think because people see him as a face on Fox, right? People are like, oh, he's a commentator on Fox.

He has a passion for this issue, clearly, as a veteran, but to put him over the Pentagon. It's like, okay. So, I mean, I've been reading up on him a lot and just getting to know his story and his passion. And as I'm watching increasingly more and more interviews with him, I'm like, oh, I see it. I understand why Trump tapped him. But I think in some ways, a little bit of a dark horse. I think one of the hard things with political appointments is that we are so unfamiliar with how many people there are. So many people.

So I remember this. I guess I'm diverting a little bit from your question. But I remember this a little bit when the VP pick was happening, right? Everyone was like, who is the VP going to pick? And at the time, you know, I was a regular on Timcast, RRL. And the conversation in that room was always, it's going to be Vivek. It's going to be Vivek. It's going to be Vivek. It's going to be Vivek. I never felt that way.

And it's not that Vivek, Rolomey, is not an interesting person or has a bright future in politics. But to me, he was a newcomer. And I knew a lot of people who were like, yeah, he sounds good, but he just kind of says all the buzzwords. And it makes me feel like I can't trust him. I always thought JD Vance was an awesome pick. And that was because the first person who ever put J.D. Vance on my radar was my super progressive feminist boss at a previous job that I had at a private school. And if she thought his story was compelling, that would probably be helpful, right? And so, you know, this is a conversation that's

also happening with like Senate leadership, right? There are some names that you hear a lot or you see in the media, but I actually have never been in the Senate. So I don't know who the senators themselves look to when there's decisions or management that has to happen here. And so I think this is true, unfortunately, for all agencies, like, just because you don't know their name doesn't mean they're good. And it's one of sort of the nice things about having the month gap between the inauguration is that they can make their case. Right. And that's, I think that's such a huge thing to point out. It's just because he's named them, they still have to go through the Senate confirmation process. It's not guaranteed. I mean, Tom Homan's a border czar, but Chrissy Nome is our secretary of Department of Homeland Security.

So again, surprising pick. You thought that one was surprising? I thought that one was surprising. I'm not totally surprised by it. And I'm going to tell you why. So again, going back to the VP thing. I think because initially when you're running for president, everyone was like, it's Trump and the VP and that's it. And really, you know, he's going to have to staff a cabinet. He's going to have to appoint, you know, all these things. I'm Rukash Patel. You know, he obviously wanted to be CIA, or at least a lot of people felt like he would be a really good CIA director. There's other people who are like, no, you have to be the attorney general.

Like, you know, there are names that you know and you kind of know their background and you're like, I could maybe fit you anywhere. But Christy Noam, you know, was one of the first people to say, you know, her National Guard to the border to support Texas specifically. She was also one of, so it was Nebraska that unleashed one of these like government TikTok bans banning it from devices in government. But Chrissy Nome kind of reignited this spark. And then we saw this wave of like 22 state governors, including at least two democratic, Democratic state governors that were like, yeah, we do have to protect cybersecurity because

TikTok's terms of service are kind of crazy. Yeah. Right. And, you know, she obviously had her memoir with a. dog. That one was a little weird. Like she's weird in other ways, but she always had good potential to do something. But at the time, for me, it was like, I don't want you to just be like, well, it has to be a

female VP, so therefore it has to be her. I don't like that mentality. But I don't know if I would have like known exactly that she was going to be homeless security, but I think in some way she makes perfect sense. But maybe that's how you feel about hexam or whatever. Well, and I think she has shown that she can be really tough. and that's obviously you have to have someone that has a tough skin in that position. And I think in that regard, I was like, okay, I see why Trump picked her because she's proven both in the way that she legislates and also in her book that she can.

The book was not a good moment for her. And doubling down, that was bad. Yeah, but she's kind of shown that I don't really care what the public things of late. I'm going to do the hard thing. Right. And you want something like that. She's also very patriotic. She's very patriotic.

She has South Dakota. She has Mount Rushmore. She reinstated like a firework show there. Trump was in love with that. Are we coming up on like the 250? 250. It's been talking about this for a long time. Donald Trump.

Donald Trump has said before like he wants the 250th year of our country to be a huge celebration. Yeah. It's like a whole year long celebration. Right. And this is one of the reasons I was like, this guy has to feel like. Can you imagine what is celebrating 250 years of America would be like under a Harris Wall of administration? No, thank you. And that brings us to the next really exciting.

It didn't exist in the last Trump administration, the Department of Government Efficiency, which has a deadline. Yeah, Doge. Doge. Is it Dodge or Doge? Doge. Because it's supposed to like the coin.

Yeah. Okay. Terminally online to get some of this jokes. A little dog sheep a dog. Meanwhile, Bear is explaining it to Toronto. Yeah. He's like, it's cool, Dad. Don't worry.

Don't worry. Now go on this podcast. It took all of like 30 seconds for the acronym just to be everywhere. I love it. team members were like, oh yeah, Doge. And like, other people were like, what is that? Like, no, no, no, we acronymed it. We've got Elon and Vivek in charge of that one. And they haven't to- That was surprising, I thought, to see them team. Because I kind of thought that they would, you know,

it's a lot of power to amass in one place. But it makes sense because we need a lot of powerful people to make the government smaller. Well, like, we thought it was going to be Ron Paul. That was like the fun, best weekend ever. It was like Ron Paul tweeting back in Elon Musk. And then you'd get, if you guys see the movie office space. And it's like Ron Paul and He'll, on Mosque. Now is vague, which is fair. Dr. Paul deserves a happy retirement in Texas. But I think the concentration of power is largely because July 4th of 2026, like, they have that until then to cut government wastefulness spending. And there's a ton in there. Like, I was in the last admin. And the amount of spending at NASA that I just didn't understand why we even had it. Like,

we have our own office of education. We have a Department of Education. Like, what's the difference? And there was so much overlap and opportunities to really like meld things together. And Trump really started to do that with his National Space Council where they talked about their efforts and that ultimately led to Space Force. And so there's all of the, it's like a web at this point of spending and just government programs. And I don't trust anyone else to look through that than Elon. Well, yeah. I mean, you have two businessmen who understand the principle of efficiency and getting things done and cutting red tape in order to streamline things. So I think they're absolutely the perfect people for the job.

And you have Elon who, and we have 300 plus government agencies, he has said, maybe let's get it down to 99. Like, that's still a lot. Like, that's great. Okay. Yeah, let's hack this thing down. Let's cut that red tape and save our tax dollars. Yeah.

And I think Americans are happy to hear that, right? Absolutely. How many times has anybody done, had any kind of interaction on local or federal level with the government and been like, now you're being directed to 15 different agencies. And also, there's 400 people. these forms don't make sense. I mean, it is crazy. And I think the idea that the government is too big is real, right?

They can regulate pawns on your land. It doesn't make any, why? It doesn't make any sense. And I think capturing the kind of star power with Elon Musk is good because I think, especially if you're sort of libertarian leaning, having an unexpected face for this, like, but the government could and should be smaller movement is important, right? because it's not just like, you know, people would get critical when you say, well, we should shut down the Department of Education.

But kids need education. You can't do this in teachers. And we literacy rates or whatever. You know, all important topics, right? We want, we want smart kids who can read all across the country for sure. But is the Department of Education doing that? Is it efficient? I think about the Bureau of Home Economics, right?

I mean, I don't know what you guys know about that. But, like, this was around for a long time. and eventually rolled it into part of the Department of Agriculture, and then they just got rid of it. But it used to serve a purpose in our country. It used to help women, you know, especially during wartime, like seeing what they needed, also making it so women have resources to better manage their homes. And instead at some point, some bureaucrat or some congressman or someone was like,

I don't care about that. I don't need it. And think of how many times that gets made on a micro level, especially in the other direction. How many times a bureaucrat is like, no, but we need $100,000 more dollars for this. No, I need $200,000 more dollars. No, I have decided this group should get this grant. And suddenly you get these ballooning budgets. And you know who pays for that?

The American taxpayers. So it's good that you're like, well, the inflation is out of control and we're going to bring in spending on all levels. It's been 250 years and I'd love to see how many agencies or government bodies have been cut rather than added. Because I don't know what that number is, but I bet it's less than 10. Yeah, I bet it's quite different. Or is cut versus Hatton. But you had another person that you were really excited or maybe surprised. I don't remember the reaction, the Israeli ambassador.

Oh, yes, yes. So Mike Huckabee, I thought that was, uh, she's like, pivot. No, I thought it was so fun. He's like, who are we talking about? Yeah. Well, so, again, I was a little bit surprised, mainly because he has, like, I don't want to say at all he's been, like, you know, doing easy stuff because he hasn't. You know, he's active and involved, but he has a television.

show and has been out of maybe the nitty gritty of a lot of the political space for a while. And so I sort of assumed like, okay, he's good. He's doing his thing. The reason why I think Mike Huckabee as the ambassador to Israel makes sense is because he is so pro-Pro-Israel. You have Trump, who is very, very pro-Israel. And because of Mike Huckabee's experience as a governor, he understands that kind of, you know, legislative side.

He has a lot of experience working. with legislators and Capitol Hill and all that. So we understand that process. But he also has the heart and the passion to stand with Israel to protect Israel. And I know he's going to always keep twofold America's best interest in mind, followed by Israel's best interest. I'm like, okay, that one really makes sense coming from a conservative perspective. Like, yeah, this absolutely made sense.

Both the skill level and just the passion are there. Now, there's one that you have been fascinated by that's not confirmed. Oh, yes. And rumors are, I feel like, have all but made it for sure, but we can't say it's for sure because it's not for sure. And he's also kind of responded to people's questions, Marco Rubio as Secretary of State, which really interesting choice. I'm noticing a theme of Florida here a little bit.

Just kidding. That's not exactly true. But no, I was really excited to see that as a potential pick, and it hasn't been confirmed. I don't believe there's been a statement as of the recording of this podcast. Yes. But, again, a very passionate person that knows where he stands on issues related to what that position entails and is also going to effectively communicate that to the public. And he does it in this next clip. Let's cue it up. Oh, yeah. That's cute.

No, I will not. On the contrary. Are you filming it? So I want you guys to get this. I want them to destroy every element of Hamas they can get their hands on. These people are vicious animals who did horrifying crimes. and I hope you guys post that. And what about the civilians that are being killed every day?

Hamas should stop hiding behind civilians, putting civilians in the way. Hamas knew that this was going to lead to this. Hamas stopped building their military installations underneath hospitals. So you don't care that 15,000 have died. You don't care about the babies that are being killed every day. I think it's terrible. And I think Hamas is 100% to blame. That's what I think.

Make sure you post that. I just love, I mean, okay, what obviously very serious topics. And the tragedies happening in the Middle East, in Palestine, Gaza, all of that tragic, tragic, tragic, tragic. But he is vocalizing what the voters that have put President Trump in office have been saying this whole time is, I don't like Hamas. I don't like Hamas. I'm tired of making excuses for them.

The Biden administration is, you know, dancing around the talking points and not actually saying what they believe. And I think each one of these picks, you can point to like whether they're a hawk or not, what they believe on that issue or not. And that is so, so refreshing after four years of just rhetoric, honestly. I think Mike Huckabee is a gift to the evangelical community in America, right? I'm not evangelical, but I am a Christian. And I know that there are a lot of evangelicals who feel really strongly that Israel is part of their moral, spiritual obligation.

Like America's ties to that. You know, I think Israel has the right to defend itself. I don't know that America should prioritize foreign wars over domestic issues. issues. But I think it makes sense that Mike Huckabee is the ambassador. I have no reason think he won't do a great job. Margo Rubio is really interesting. I'm glad you brought up that clip because for me, that Marco Rubio is really inspired by MAGA. I think that Marco Rubio is more off the cuff than he has been in the years that I've seen him. He's not a bad guy. I know tons people from Florida who love him, who think he's great. But I think the fact that we don't have a

confirmation on the announcement means that someone has floated his name as Secretary of State to test to see what the public reaction would be. I think if we knew it was going to be him, it would be out and confirmed by out. Well, they've had a bunch of press statements. No, I think honestly, because they were fighting in 2016 and they didn't like each other. Yeah. But like there are a lot of Trump-based, like people who would get them, you know, MAGA over a Republican who would feel as though you can't let him in. Remember that J.D. Vance was a never-Trumper.

I mean, how many anti-Trump people can you put into the administration before people start to feel like it's 2016 again? Yeah. And the staffing is bad. So I feel less confident about Marco Rubio being Secretary of State. I don't think he's a bad guy and I don't think that he would necessarily do a bad job. I just think that this is actually, we're kind of talking about this at the top of the show, but this is the use of X and the media to see what the public reaction would be. There is a big difference between here is my confirmed statement about Mike Harkaby versus maybe it's going to be Marco Rubio, right?

Perhaps. And I will say, I wasn't, you said I was excited. I wasn't necessarily excited, very surprised just because of the. the bad blood. But no, I mean, seriously, that energy to your point, like, it got me excited because I'm like, again, we're not dancing around the issues. We're just saying what we believe. And who's famous for that? Donald Trump. Exactly. Who's combative and who is able to say directly. And to an extent, again, J.D. Vance has deserved a love credit. He's also pretty direct in what he's doing. But I think you will see the reconfiguration of a lot of conservative politicians under a second Donald Trump victory.

I don't think people should try and be Donald Trump. I think that's a mistake. the personality you don't you have to find your own way of doing it and this is marco rubio doing it right like he still looks like the classic politician right he's like you know the accent gets me right he's like a poster boy for being like a beautiful conservative from florida or whatever but uh he is he is telling you exactly who he thinks is to blame for this and i think to both of your points that's what the american people want yeah they don't want this ambiguous you know back and forth and and democrats struggle with the israel palestine conflict because there was no way for them to that issue. I think conservatives and Republicans or, you know, people who lean conservative

understand the nuances a little bit more. They are anti-Hamas. They don't like that young children are dying. But when Trump said on that CNN town hall, you know, Caitlin Bressow, is that our last name, was pushing him, who do you want to win the Ukraine-Russia war? Who do you want to win? And he was like, I want the war to stop. I want the dying to stop. I think that's ultimately how the American people feel. And so if you're able to say, like, I think his Hamas is at fault. And so we are going to negotiate a ceasefire based on this premise and we're going to act accordingly. It's very different than being like, well, everybody's making good points. And meanwhile, please don't blow up the aid truck and also maybe don't attack them on their holiday.

Like, that's awful in getting everyone nowhere. In fact, that's why it's conflict's been going on for over year. I mean, really, it's conflict is 4,000 years old. But, you know. It goes way back. Yep. This is, it's interesting. But, but, you know, I don't want to make any bets.

But I'm not so confident about Marco Rubio right now. So are there any appointments that have really. surprised you so far or that you have been particularly pleased to see. I was happy to see Stephen Miller get the deputy policy position. I think that he is a good choice. And I think immigration has to be a key component of the next four years, well, really the next six, like 18 months before we have to like head into the battleground of midterm elections. And I'm kind of waiting to see. I think the ambassador of China is going to be really key. I think especially with all the tension with Taiwan, you know, there are certain things that I'm still waiting on. I mean, I think

Homan, if you're a, if you're a, if you're in a, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, that the border is not just a national security issue, but it's a humanitarian issue. And it's a cultural issue. Um, we can't have, uh, the deaths of young children who are human traffics on our conscience. We can't have the deaths of Americans who are, uh, you know, unfortunately experiencing addiction and die because of fentanyl poisoning on our conscience. We can't have a border that incentivizes people to take terrible journeys and to pay money to terrible gangs to to leave their home countries at you know with the risk of everything right like this is not helping anybody anyone who tells you it is is bad and you were talking about the passion that that

that that home has and I think that's true I think it's really important that someone is in that position it's sort of like we get so many appointments and then I'm also like still waiting oh there's a lot more to come I know I mean so when When Trump was at the Libertarian National Convention, I think that was September, August, all of these months are running together for me. He promised that he would put a libertarian in his cabinet, right? So who is that? Do we need a card carry in, like go down to the Cato Institute and pull a libertarian out of the library? Like someone, no one has ever heard of, to your point with like, what people associate him with Fox?

Like, if you've never heard of this walk, but he is for sure libertarian, Trump puts him his cabinet, maybe he's qualified to do it. but maybe the public won't see it that way? Or is it more like Rand Paul, right? Rand Paul has libertarian influence, but he is a Republican. On the other hand, it would be very difficult to get elected to Congress or the Senate in the United States as a full-on libertarian. And so there is, to me, that's one of the appointments that I'm waiting on. I'm waiting to see how he fulfills this promise to the libertarians in what that looks like. That's going to be interesting.

Because, you know, every liberal, I mean, Thomas Massey, I've had the chance to interview him for. he's wonderful. You know, he is all for ending the Department of Education. So do we put him in charge of that? Or like, do you bring on, do you put him on Department of Agriculture? Like, there are so many people who are interesting and their political philosophy could do a lot of good things, especially if we are now bringing on Elon Musk and Vivek to be like, and we're downsizing government. Right.

You know there are libertarians chomping at the bit to get that appointment. Oh, absolutely. With that, that's going to do it for today's episode. So don't forget to hit the subscribe button so you never miss out on either our Top News in 10 weekday afternoon editions or our weekend interview additions. And if you would, take a minute to leave us a five-star review. Leave us your feedback. We'd love to know what you think about the show. Have a great rest of your weekend.

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