The Daily Signal - INTERVIEW | Biden Border Policy Aid and Abet Child Sex Slavery, Rescuer Warns
Episode Date: June 28, 2023The woke Left is championing the same "pedophile doctrines" that enable child sex slavery, warns Tim Ballard, a former Department of Homeland Security agent who has rescued hundreds of children from s...ex slavery. He also warns that taxpayer dollars are in effect funding child sex slavery under President Joe Biden. Ballard spoke with The Daily Signal last week, speaking alongside Jim Caviezel, the actor best known for playing Jesus in "The Passion of the Christ." Caviezel portrays Ballard in the forthcoming film "Sound of Freedom." The film tells the story of Ballard's first mission to save children from sex slavery in Colombia. Ballard spoke about the nexus of ideas between a pro-pedophile political party in the Netherlands and the Left's transgender advocacy in the U.S., and he raised the alarm about Biden border policies that fund and enable the exploitation of children. Enjoy the show! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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This is Tyler O'Neill, and this is the Daily Signal interview podcast for Wednesday, June 28th.
I sat down and spoke with Jim Caviesel and Tim Ballard.
Jim Caviesel is the actor best known for playing Jesus in The Passion of the Christ.
Also, he played Edmond Dantes and the Count of Monte Cristo, and he recently has played
Tim Ballard in The Sound of Freedom, a film upcoming releasing on July 4th.
Tim Ballard is a former Department of Homeland Security agent who rescued children from sex slavery.
And we sat down.
I spoke with him and with Jim Caviesel about playing him.
And Tim Ballard spoke to me about how the transgender movement in Biden's border policy aid and abet the evil that Tim Ballard has fought to prevent.
And Jim Caviesel spoke very movingly about how difficult it is to play.
someone who was engaged in fighting this heinous evil.
So listen to our interview right after this.
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This is Tyler O'Neill, managing editor at The Daily Signal,
and I'm honored to be joined by a bona fide hero in Tim Ballard
and the guy who got to play him in the upcoming film, The Sound of Freedom.
It is a masterpiece.
You did an amazing job just as you did in Ascent the Christ.
Yeah, I saw it last night.
So it was very moving.
I'm going to say, I'm honored to have both of you.
you here with me today. Thank you very much. So I want to get right into it. Tim, you know,
the story is fantastic, surprising. You are telling me they even didn't want to include some of the
details from the story because people wouldn't believe that it's true. But it is a true story,
and would you just briefly introduce it and how you got involved in this important work? Well,
I had spent 12 years as a special agent undercover operator for the department.
of Homeland Security, Homeland Security investigations, working child crimes, child trafficking.
And it was kind of an evolution.
You know, the first few years, there was mostly just end user collector cases of, you know,
people who are possessing, distributing child exploitation material.
And always wondering, where are the kids?
I see these videos and breaks my heart.
I got to describe them.
There's a scene in the movie that breaks my heart where, you know, Jim is crying as he's having to describe these horrific sex scenes of children.
And when I say children, I mean averaging 765, okay?
And then in 2006, the laws changed.
And for the first time, U.S. agents could actually go overseas
and prosecute Americans for engaging in sexual children overseas
and prosecute them as if they had committed the crime on U.S. soil.
So that opened up my horizons, and I started seeing finding the kids.
And that was a frustrating process, though,
because the law didn't stipulate how much time I would get.
or how much flexibility I would have or creativity I'd have.
So I'd be given a week or whatever to find it.
I'd always find the kids, but if I couldn't find the nexus back to the United States, come home.
But I've seen kids.
I can rescue.
It doesn't matter.
Come home.
So it all kind of came to a head for me in 2012 when I was working two different cases, actually, one in Haiti and one in Columbia.
And I was told, come home on both of them.
They were both major cases, a significant, you know, hit against you.
and traffickers would have taken place.
And the film only focuses on the one in Columbia.
And there I am thinking, you know,
they're asking me to come home once again,
and I'm not going to do it.
I'm going to stay.
And that means I have to quit my job.
And I call my wife, hoping, hoping.
She'll say, get your butt home.
Are you kidding me?
We got six kids to feed.
And I want her to say it because I was being a coward.
But I knew it was the right thing.
And she didn't, she didn't, she didn't,
She didn't read my script, and she said, of course you're going to stay.
And I said, oh, you're kidding?
And then she ended that argument with Mary Servino, the Academy Award-accadney
award-winning actress plays Catherine in the film opposite Jim.
And in the film, you see her say to me on the phone, you quit your job and rescue
those kids, what she really said to me because they didn't want to make me look like the
coward that I was because I was like, I'm coming home.
I'm not going to do this.
I'm not going to be part of this.
And she said to me very sternly, and she's usually pretty sweet.
but this is righteous indignation at his finest.
And this is a quote because it was that powerful
and it pierced my heart when she said it.
She said, quote,
I will not let you jeopardize my salvation
by not doing this.
And it breaks my heart because
not only is she losing our income,
but she possibly, very good chance,
maybe 50-50, she's going to lose me.
She's willing to risk becoming a widow.
because she knew that if I quit my job and stayed,
and Glenn Beck, bless his heart,
raise the money for us so that we can even do the operation
because I had no money to do it.
In the end, it was unbelievable.
We rescued over 120 women and children.
The film only gets into a piece of it.
There's 54 rescued on that island,
but the op was bigger than that.
And the movie didn't have something to get into it.
And that is the basis of the film.
And there's so much more, as you know,
attached to that whole story,
but that's the basis of the film.
And when we did that big hit on October 11th of 2014,
they made national news in the United States.
Scott Pelley reported CBS News and Eduardo Verrazeggi,
the producers saw the clip.
He had been working on a script with Alejandro Montevideo about human trafficking
that was fiction.
And they saw this story and they said,
well, maybe there's a true story here.
And that began the process of sound of freedom.
When and Jim, what was it like for you, you know,
seeing these scenes, I, you know, it rips your heart out.
Just, they never actually show exploitation of children in the film.
I demanded they didn't.
Yeah.
So if you make one, you don't make quite a file material here.
You can't, but you can't make that film.
Right.
But you had to do the incredible job of acting, you know, the part of watching this exploitation,
trying to describe it, you know, typing it out.
And we could see your eyes.
I mean, just watching your eyes in that seed spoke.
What was it like to do a scene with?
I've, I don't know how he does it.
It took everything I had.
And I taught him my own children.
You know, I adopted three of my children from China,
and I saw the things that I felt were nefarious,
even with adoption and all that stuff
and there are dangers
in the adoption world
with children and globally.
So that was very easy for me to transfer
like what if this was your own kid
and that started the conversation in my heart
and then
I wouldn't even hesitate
I wouldn't even hesitate
if someone was
going to hurt my family, especially my children, my wife. It would just, I, there's some things where
it's like, I can't live without them, you know, and that's what love is. I'd take a bullet for him,
so put myself in Tim's situation. Then, you know, I had a lot of, I was so grateful that he came to me.
And, you know, I remember one point he came down and I'm telling Tim, I think we've got lightning
in a bottle.
And I said that, and he said, that's good, right, or something.
And then I said, yeah, but it's going to be hard.
Why?
Well, because when it's this good, you know, darkness gets really, very upset because
it's not a little light.
It's a mega light.
And it's going to draw a lot of attention.
But we struggled making it.
We struggled getting the money together.
We lost our money.
We lost our studios that were supporting us.
And yet we were just getting by a little bit at a time we faith bonded us together.
Eduardo.
Once we got it done, Eduardo Veras to get, you had to, you know, bear the burden,
and try to get this film and studio into studios like nobody will want it,
even though they're moved, even though they get up and they, you know,
you could clearly see that had the power to change a direction.
But, you know, we have the same issue with the passion of the Christ,
and that thing ended up becoming a juggernaut.
And this one is showing, people are buying tickets right now.
And the problem we have, major problem we have is that we don't have,
enough theaters. And so that's why we've been telling people, God, you've got to get out and buy
tickets like you did on the passion because you created a way for us. So imagine if you're in a
hydroplane speedboat and you see a wall coming. We need people to tear that thing down or we're
going to go right at. Well, when you talk about the evil here involved in human traffic,
you know, in the sex slavery of children. Yes. And it's the kind of thing that beggars the imagination.
You know, you can barely understand how people would do something like this.
No, I understand it.
I had to understand it what they were thinking.
I had to understand.
I started from both ends, corruption, why power, what seduced.
People do pretty much anything for big major power at one end,
whether it be honey potted or what on the other end you got people starting with.
So I worked with Tim, but Tim is very,
busy going on, but I had guys that helped me to understand the psychology or you're starting
older with pornography and you just keep going younger and younger and younger. I said, well, why
would a man be interested in? Right. I mean, a unformed woman. He says, it's the innocent
to demonic thing, that they're, this innocent child and it becomes more attractive to them.
Well, last night you briefly mentioned this idea of pedophile laws, I think you called on.
Yes.
Where, and.
Making it easier for the trafficker and the pedophiles.
How enticing's American society doing that?
What, you know, what particularly in me?
Yeah, so last year we did a big operation.
There's a four-part docu-series coming out, produced by Tony Robbins.
Mel Gibson also involved his sulting on this.
He was part of the story.
When Ukraine was attacked, Mel Gibson called me within hours.
And I know Mel through Jim.
And he said, hey, I got all these Ukrainian orphans that I help that I support and I'm worried about them.
Can you go, what a crazy ask.
Can you go to Ukraine while bombs are dropping and go find these kids?
And he didn't know that a few hours earlier, my wife came to me in tears and said the same thing.
We were working on adopting about seven children out of Ukraine at the time, not for,
through our foundation, children and families.
And so she says the same thing.
I'm like, oh, my gosh, Mel Gibson and my wife
are both telling me to go to Ukraine.
Well, bombs are dropping, right?
And, you know, I always was raised with the idea.
I could just see him.
I know.
He was in Budapest filming.
And, you know, I thought to myself, you know,
I always, I was raised with the thought
that if Bill Gibson and your wife ever tell you to do something,
within hours of each other,
I mean, you should probably do it, right?
Who would it?
So I had to go to Ukraine.
And I partnered with an amazing group that I sit on the board of aerial recovery.
And we went in and trying to rescue these children.
6,000 in the end.
We got out of the war zone.
But we were looking for human traffickers because we know that they prey upon vulnerability, wars, hurricanes, whenever it is.
And sure enough, we catch, we lock into this pedophile ring.
Now, it says it's a frightening ring because it's a political party that was out of Holland called the P.E.
BNVD, lots of media on them, they were trying to legalize sex with children.
They thought a three-year-old could consent to sex.
Well, even in the Dutch arrested them in 2020, which is very hard to get arrested in Holland.
You got to be really bad.
Red line district.
You got to be really bad.
Okay, to get arrested in Holland.
They were arrested in 2020 fugitives.
They ran.
And they were hiding.
No one knew what they were.
Well, they rear their ugly heads.
The leader, this guy named Nelson Matron, he raised, I'm literally in Poland at the time.
at our staging operation for Ukraine,
and I get this information that this guy in Mexico
is trying to be trafficked kids out of Ukraine.
And so I go undercover, the Dutch asset
who gave me that information infiltrated me,
and I'm undercover talking to this guy.
Well, in the end, we ended up, in fact, just yesterday,
two of the guys were convicted in Ecuador,
because it led us to Ecuador, a child sex hotel,
these penophiles from Holland and set up.
But we'll get into that another time, okay,
but the point I'm making is,
I had to study their literature.
This was a political platform.
This was a political party.
And what I started recognizing is I named them the, I don't know,
I called the pedophile network doctrines.
Okay?
Like, they include things like separate children from parents
because parents are bad influence.
The state knows best.
Sexualized kids, let them see pornography.
Two.
Carl Martin.
Three, take God out of education because that just gets in the way.
And kids consent, consent, consent, consent.
Children can consent to anything.
At 12 years old, they should be able to vote.
They should be able to do anything.
Now, what am I saying here?
My stomach is getting sick as I'm reading this.
I read this every day.
It's the woke left agenda.
I'm not saying that they're colluding or talking.
It doesn't matter.
It's the same dark source.
They are pedophiles are sitting back right now going,
we've been pushing this agenda for decades.
And now we don't have to push anymore
because the left is taking care of for us in America.
In America.
And this whole trans voice on children.
You know, again, I'm libertarian.
adults do what you want. I'll fight for your right to do whatever you want, okay, in terms of adults.
I'm talking about children. And what they're saying is children can consent to having their
bodies filled with a chemical that will destroy the reproductive system. They can consent to ripping
apart their genitalia. Like, this is insanity. In and of itself, it's horrible. But what it's going
to lead to is what the pedophiles have been asking for. If you can consent to that, guess what?
What's more fluid than gender? Age. I adopt the two children and hear.
Haiti that we rescued back in 2014.
Well, really quick, we don't have much time.
Okay.
I want to talk, I want to hear you talk a little bit about the border because you spent a decade down there.
I can't believe you stop me right there, man.
You got to have a bank.
I got to.
This is too important.
But, but yeah, I want it, I wanted just briefly, how is the Biden administration enabling this?
Well, look, the economy of pedophilia.
The United States is the number one consumer of child exploitation material.
We are the demand.
So that means that traffickers want to get children into that dark market.
There's a lot of money to be made here.
The United States, also a court estate department, is in the top three countries for destination countries for human trafficking.
So there's every incentive to get children into America, into the black markets here of pedophilia.
And so when I find out that in the last couple of years, at least $85,000, I think it's much higher than that,
but at least $85,000 unaccompanied minors, thousands of them I've seen the CBP reports, are under five years.
years old. Why is a three-year-old showing up at the border? I can tell you why, because they show up with a
name. The name is the sponsor that they're given by the trafficker. HHS gets the kids, and they by law
have to call the number. Hi, we have Jose Gonzalez, Mr. George Smith. Yeah, yeah, that's my kid, whatever.
Okay, they used to actually fly down and have to pick the kid up, not anymore. Our taxpayer dollars
will then send the kid by plane or bus to the sponsor, no background check, no DNA, nothing.
and they deliver the kids.
Our taxpayer dollars are literally, for the first time in American history,
our taxpayer dollars are going to facilitate the last leg of a child trafficking event.
And the border is open.
The border is wide open.
$14 million a day are landing in the pocket of smugglers and traffickers,
thanks to the Biden-Harris border policy.
The only compassionate policy is border enforcement, barriers, walls.
Why?
And the Sound of Freedom talks about this.
because the walls and the barriers
lead the children who are being hurt
into that funnel of rescue.
Trained women and men in uniform
are there. Those kids
want to go through the port of entry. Those kids
pray for a wall.
The wall will save their lives.
But let's take it all doubt.
Let's open it all up.
Kids are being abused by the thousands.
And our taxpayer dollars are going for
are actually funding. Do you have anything
to say briefly on these?
I just turn to
I'm asking people
you know
you have soldiers that fight
for you and you say
I love you thank you for doing that
but we all have to be soldiers
in this fight
and when you say
well it's really too hard
I said look a parent
has to have strength
and fortitude to defend their own children
my God
and this film
is something
when you're watching
it you, you learn how routinely it occurs, you also learn the warning signs. That's good
for the public, it weaponizes that individual, the parent, or whoever that watches this film.
But when, you know, the chips are down, when God asks you, in this film you see it,
when can we love our children more than we fear evil?
When God tells you to do something, you don't hesitate.
hesitate. God's children are no longer for sale. Amen. Well, thank you both so much for joining me
and sharing this important work. And I'd encourage, you would encourage people to contact their
theaters, get seats available. Where should they go? Is angel.com slash SOF? We're selling up.com.
Angel.com forward slash gym as well. I don't know. I can't too much.
maybe a special something.
But buy tickets.
We want two million people in theaters the week of July 4th
representing the two million children currently forced into commercial sex.
Wow.
You know, I think it's sound of freedom forward slash Jim.
I don't.
Whatever it is, go to angel.com.
It's all over the place.
Buy tickets, guys.
Be there.
Support us so we can rescue more kids.
That's it.
That's it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
DHS agent who rescued children from sex slavery and Jim Caviesel.
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