The Daily Signal - INTERVIEW | GOP Border Bill Co-Author Says Democrats Engineered Migrant Crisis
Episode Date: May 12, 2023The Daily Signal's Tyler O'Neil sat down with Congressmen Tom McClintock and John Rutherford to talk about H.R. 2, the border security bill the House passed Thursday. McClintock, who helped write the ...bill, said Democrats intentionally engineered the border crisis. Rutherford shared a horrifying story about a man in his district who got murdered by an illegal alien. Colorado Wants to Force Her To Create LGBTQ Wedding Websites: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfk1q-EXNDE Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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This is the Daily Signal podcast for Friday, May 12.
I'm Tyler O'Neill.
I sat down with Congressman Tom McClintock and John Rutherford in the U.S. Capitol to talk about HR2.
The border security bill, the House passed yesterday.
McClintock, who helped write the bill, explained why he thinks Democrats intentionally engineered the border crisis.
Rutherford shared a horrifying story about a man in his district who got murdered
by an illegal alien.
Stay tuned for our conversation after this.
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This is Tyler O'Neill, managing editor at The Daily Signal.
I'm joined by Representative Tom McClintock.
Great to have you here.
Great to be here, Tyler. Thanks for having me.
So can you tell me a bit about this important border security bill that I believe you co-wrote
and focuses on building the border wall, closing a lot of loopholes, really addressing the process.
It is a basic level. It restores the successful Trump-era policies that had secured our border.
On inauguration day, we had a secure border.
The Trump remained in Mexico policies, had slowed illegal immigration to a trade.
trickle, the border wall was nearing completion, ICE was actually enforcing court-ordered deportations.
By the afternoon of inauguration day, Joe Biden had reversed all of those policies, and the result
is an illegal mass migration on a scale the world has never seen, and no civilization has ever survived.
So what specifically does the bill do to address, and I believe there are important changes to the law about
First and foremost, it removes the incentives that are driving this illegal migration.
If you make a phony asylum claim under this administration, you immediately received automatic admission into our country.
You get lots of free stuff, including a ticket anywhere you want to go in the country.
You get indefinite residency. You get indefinite work authorization.
and when your phony claim is rejected by the courts,
years and years from now,
you can be reasonably sure you can stay anyway
because court order deportations are not being enforced.
So why wouldn't anybody come?
Well, what this bill does is to remove those perverse incentives.
It still allows you to file an asylum claim,
but then it enforces the current existing law
that says that you can't be released in the United States.
You either have to be detained in the United States.
States or you can await the outcome of your case in Mexico or any other safe third country.
And it changes the law to enable DHS to send illegals to another country.
And it's very important, particularly with all of the child trafficking that the cartels are now doing.
This measure, right now, if an unaccompanied alien child comes from Mexico or Canada,
we get them safely homes, we should.
From any other country, this administration doesn't let their finger to return them safely home.
Instead, it sends them to very poorly vetted so-called sponsors where a lot of them are exploited sexually or in labor exploitation.
Or we simply lose track of them.
85,000 alien children we have trafficked into our own country by our government,
have been lost by our government.
We don't know where they are, what's happened to.
So what this measure does is it says, just as we already do for children from Mexico and Canada,
we are going to get the children from other countries also safely home.
If you want to stop the human trafficking, that's how you do it.
The cartels don't give refunds.
And the moment we start returning these children to their own homes, the cartel's business dries up.
So, and you helped write the bill that it seems as about to pass.
in the House. How did you craft legislation, you know, because I remember over 10 years ago now,
I think it was, when the Republican House was trying to address immigration issues, and they
couldn't actually pass a bill. So this is a marked step forward. Yes, it is. How does this bill differ
from those efforts and what really got it across the finish line? Well, what really got it across
the finish line was we have a leadership today that is willing to,
to stick at it until it's done. We didn't have that under Ryan or Boehner. We have that under
Kevin McCarthy. It's his leadership that pulled everybody together, kept everybody talking
until we'd hammered out a compromise. And that's the foundation of all of this. The bill is not
that much different from the legislation that failed when the Republicans had a House majority
several years ago. The difference is we have much better leadership today. And would you say that
leadership is the reason the debt ceiling bill also passed?
Yes. Yes, absolutely.
And how would you, what would you say to the Democrats in the Senate who seem, you know,
not interested in taking up the bill? And President Biden, who said he would veto it.
Well, you're talking about the debt limit bill?
This bill. Oh, the immigration bill? Yeah.
Well, obviously, there's not much I can say to the Senate to convince them. That's going to be up
to their constituencies to convince them. And that, I'm afraid, is what it's going to come down to.
The American people are going to have to choose whether or not they want to continue down this road.
A country without immigration laws is a country without borders.
If we have no borders, then we have no country.
We're simply a vast international territory between Canada and Mexico.
Is this what Americans want for their country?
That's a question ultimately up to them, and they're going to have to answer it.
You know, when people ask me, well, how could this be happening to our country?
The answer is very simple.
If you voted for Joe Biden and the Democrats in the last election, this is exactly what you voted for.
And if you're surprised by this, you weren't paying any attention.
When people say, well, how much longer it can go on, the answer is also very simple.
It will continue until the people responsible for these policies are turned out of office.
As I said, this is not an accident.
It's not incompetence.
This is a deliberate policy of the left.
And it's up to the American people to step in and say, we have had enough and will go no farther.
And why do you say it's a deliberate policy in which we've talked about the left benefiting
from having a larger voting base that's dependent on the government?
I think the left has lost the support of the American people, and they view their best chance
of remaining in power by bringing in millions of people who are dependent and impoverished and
desperate.
And we've seen the Biden administration work hand in glove with some.
nonprofits that essentially encourage and streamline this illegal immigration.
No, aid and abet and reward and encourage, yes.
But, you know, that's one thing that the Border Patrol keeps expressing frustration over
is the fact the cartels are paid thousands and thousands of dollars to traffic these human beings.
And when they are brought to the border, the American government takes over and finishes the transaction for them.
at taxpayer expense.
But what we're now going to see, I think, is the entire system collapsing.
I'm very concerned that the Border Patrol simply cannot process under Title VIII.
These vast, vast numbers we're saying.
I'm saying 600 to 700,000 illegal migrants already waiting in Mexico to bum rush the border.
My guess is, in fact, I've seen an executive order,
that the Border Patrol essentially is supposed to step out of the way and let them in.
Well, I wonder what's going to happen when many of these border towns are suddenly inundated
with tens of thousands of desperate and dependent people, who've, by the way, been promised free
stuff, free food, free care, free stuff.
What's going to happen over the next few days?
Unfortunately, we're about to find out.
Well, thank you so much for speaking with me.
This is Tyler O'Neill with The Daily Signal.
I'm here with Congressman John Rutherford of Florida.
Florida, would you speak a little bit about the border crisis and how important this bill is
to addressing it?
Yeah, listen, Tyler, I think when you listen to the president just today, talk about the chaos
of the border, if you listen to Chief Fortees, who is a fantastic law enforcement officer,
he said we don't have operational control of the border.
And so, and just within the last year, we had a situation.
in Jacksonville, Florida.
A gentleman comes across the border,
claims to be a juvenile,
so he uses a fake name, fake ID,
or fake date of birth, not ID.
He didn't have any ID, which is part of the problem.
And so he's got no ID, they don't know who he is,
but they ask him, well, because he falls under catch and release, right?
So they ask him, well, do you have any family members in the United States?
He's like, oh, yeah, my Uncle Quayar lives in Jackson,
in the Jacksonville, Florida.
So they call him.
And of course, he says, yeah, that's my nephew.
But he knows it's not,
because this is all set up
before he ever came to the border.
So Mr.
used the name, Fernandez, his real name is Uyoha.
He was also 23, not 17.
He came across the border.
CBP can't determine who he is.
So they turned him over to HHS.
HHS. HHS makes the call to Mr. Quayar. They fly him to Jacksonville. Two weeks later,
and two months later, he kills Mr. Quayar. And so, you know, my issue with all of this is,
number one, the border is open and these folks are coming across. H.R. 2 will build,
will secure the border by building a wall, which, and I make this point to everyone, look the
The wall is not a barrier.
It's an impediment.
I get that.
You know, I can build a 12-foot wall.
You can build a 13-foot ladder, right?
Okay, so it's not built to be an impediment or a barrier, it's built to be an impediment.
So that as you're breaching it, I have technology there, which this bill provides.
I have technology there that tells me you're breaching that wall.
Then I have to send staffing to take you into custody.
I can't do that with a drone.
I got to send people.
This bill provides that staffing, 22,000 CBP officers, just for enforcement, no processing.
And so then we also build access roads.
You know how much of our border does not have access roads and is actually patrol on horseback?
So it's an impossible situation.
This bill will secure that border and stop the situations that we had with Mr.
Ojoja who killed one of my constituents.
Yeah.
And the bill also deals with visa overstays, a few other important issues like that.
Yes, look, we've got to start deporting these folks again when they get the deportation
orders.
Now, acting commissioner Troy Miller told us that they don't have the resource.
to repatriate these folks?
Well, wait a minute.
If you don't have the resources to repatriate them going south,
how is it you've got the resources to send them north into the interior of the country?
Don't tell me that.
Just turn the plane around, go the other way.
What message would you send to President Biden, to the Democrats in the Senate,
who it sounds are probably not going to consider this bill?
Listen, we have to get operational control of the border.
everybody knows it
the president even admitted today that it's chaos
that we don't have operational control
as Chief Ortiz also said
that is a recipe to get more and more
American citizens like
like Mr. Quayor in my district
this is going to get more people murdered
it's got to stop
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