The Daily Signal - LinkedIn Bans Geologist for Climate Change Posts: 'This Type of Content Is Not Allowed'
Episode Date: October 4, 2021Greg Wrightstone, a geologist and expert reviewer for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, has posted content on LinkedIn for years. It would often spark discussions and debates among his fo...llowers—and the occasional trolls. That changed last month. Wrightstone, who serves as executive director of the CO2 Coalition, says he was banned from LinkedIn for posting factual information related to climate change. His appeal was denied, leaving him without a voice on a platform where he had cultivated a significant following. Having been stripped of his ability to communicate on LinkedIn, he’s now speaking out and sharing his story publicly with The Daily Signal. Wrightstone warns others about social media censorship and the consequences of limiting discussion and debate. Also on today's show, a conservative activist calls out Facebook for suppressing his posts. For more than a decade, Texas native Don Kirchoff has used Facebook to share news and information with fellow conservatives. The longtime Heritage Foundation supporter and Heritage Action Sentinel frequently posts Daily Signal stories as well as content from other conservative organizations and media outlets. But is anyone seeing them? Many of his Facebook posts that have zero likes or comments, prompting Kirchoff to take his case directly to Facebook. While that has worked in the past, he’s noticed the problem more often. Kirchoff captured screenshots and shared them with The Daily Signal as well as Facebook. (The Daily Signal is the multimedia news organization of Heritage.) Kirchoff joined the podcast to explain the situation and raise awareness for other conservatives. Enjoy the show! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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This is the Daily Signal podcast for Monday, October 4th.
I'm Rob Bluey.
And I'm Virginia Allen.
On today's show, Rob talks with two guests who are facing social media censorship.
Greg Wrightstone is a geologist and the executive director of the CO2 coalition who is currently banned from LinkedIn.
And Don Kirchoff is a conservative from Texas whose Facebook posts are being suppressed.
And they're not alone, Virginia.
Just last week, the Daily Signal had our own run in with Twitter
when our video on the Border Patrol's Horse Patrol program was censored.
I'm grateful to Greg and Don for speaking out
and hope that others who encounter censorship do the same.
Absolutely.
Well, and following those two interviews,
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register today. Now stay tuned for today's show. Coming up next. We are joined on the Daily Signal
podcast today by Greg Wrightstone. He's a geologist and executive director of the CO2 Coalition.
It was also recently banned from a social media platform for writing about climate change.
Greg, welcome to the show. Oh, good to be on with you. Too bad it's in this type of the situation,
though, but thank you for having me.
Well, we want to make sure you have a voice to talk about these issues and the Daily Signal
is certainly a place that you can do that.
You know, Greg, so often we hear about social media censorship from the likes of Facebook,
YouTube, and Twitter.
Now, apparently, we can add LinkedIn to that list, thanks to you.
Tell us what you did to be permanently banned by LinkedIn.
I think I was too successful promoting the science, the facts, and the data, the
dispute this notion of man-made catastrophic warming.
I was, I posted very interesting and very scientific, but interesting charts and facts
on temperature data through time, CO2 relationship with temperature to show that throughout
geological, and I'm a geologist throughout geologic time, that CO2 really hasn't been
the control knob of the Earth's climate, things like that.
I would post things and I would get 20, 25,000
within views within 24 hours,
getting a huge number of people signing up
to be connections with me.
Some days I might have 12 or 15 people signing up
and I had a large following.
And I think it became too much.
I got a couple trolls on.
And it really, I think it escalated when I blocked a couple of them
that just got nasty.
and this was in May and June.
They started taking down my posts.
Again, this is material that's from NOAA, NASA.
And I've been accepted as an expert reviewer for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
So I'm part of that process.
I've been recognized as an expert on climate.
I just disagree with some of their conclusions on what the science says.
and I posted this science
and as I would post it
it would be removed
they said it's false and misleading
this culminated in
I believe July
of this just a few months ago
the last they said
you've been banned your account was restricted
to multiple violations of LinkedIn's user agreement
blah blah blah
and this is where it gets good
you can't make this stuff up
the last post that I had
I stated, it appears that I've been targeted by the LinkedIn overseers for elimination and deplatforming,
and then I went on.
So I predicted that I was going to be deplatformed and banned on LinkedIn.
Well, that post was removed as false and misleading, and then they banned me, if you follow me.
So my post said, I think I'm going to be deplatformed.
They said it was false and misleading, and then they deplatform me.
and you don't know whether to laugh or cry when it comes to things like this.
And it's just part of this cancel culture.
And I sat back and thought about, I had such a great following.
I said, I'm going to go ahead and appeal this.
So I did appeal it.
I said, I'm going to follow your LinkedIn's user agreement.
And here's what I said.
I said, I will only post factually correct information.
That's what I said.
I will only post factually correct information.
They got back to me within 24 hours and they said, nope, you're banned.
And this is a quote from them.
This type of content is not allowed.
So this type of content, they're referring to my request and statement that I will only post factually correct information.
Again, you don't know whether to laugh or cry.
All I can imagine, there's some guy sitting.
sitting in a California office in his home with a man bun and tattoos, not that I'm opposed
to tattoos and man buns, but, you know, with a degree in sustainable development from San Jose
State, just gleefully hitting the ban or the sensor button. And I've asked, too, when things
would be labeled false and misleading, I said, okay, I'm a geologist, degree geologist, expert
reviewer for IPCC. Those are my qualifications. What are the other?
the qualifications of the reviewers, and of course they would never respond to that. So there we are.
I'm banned for life, apparently. Now that you've been banned for life from LinkedIn, have you
turned to other social media platforms to get your message out? Well, I joined the CO2 coalition in January,
beginning of January is their executive director. We have a history, and of course we have a
social media platform.
I just hired a new media and technology, digital and communications manager for the CO2
coalition.
So, yeah, we're doing this, the Facebook, Twitter, trying to get on some of the other media.
We're going to be doing a lot more videos and podcasts and live streaming, and we have a lot
of things playing.
So this is a setback.
We at the CO2 coalition are no stranger.
to being censored.
Facebook, in fact, last year,
in fact, you daily
caller wrote us up
a couple times about the Facebook
problems we had with being
attempts at censorship. We got a
letter from Stacey Abrams, Tom
Steyer, and the leaders of
19 other environmental groups, demanding
the Facebook de-platformists and
remove us for
continual falsomist leading.
We're science deniers, of course.
And we can
be nothing could be further from the truth. We're a group of some of the top scientists in the
world that are studying climate change. Dr. Richard Lins and Dr. Wilhap are both atmospheric physicists
of some note, not just of some note, but legendary physicists. We've got Dr. Patrick Moore sits
on our board who was a co-founder of Greenpeace. Pat Michaels, a great climatologist. We have all
these scientists that we all believe, we all believe,
that the Earth's ecosystems and humanity are thriving and benefiting and prospering
from the combination of modest warming and increased CO2.
We can see it by almost every metric.
And when you say things like that, people are probably going,
what? I've never heard that before.
But it's true.
The Earth is greening and thriving.
Crops are breaking records year after year.
And again, it's this combination of warming and increased CO2.
So we're getting, we'll be getting the word out otherwise.
It's shame on LinkedIn, shame on them.
I can't help but think that the people in charge,
maybe they do want this type of censorship.
Then again, maybe you give them the benefit of the doubt.
It's just one renegade guy, again, punching gleefully on the cancel button.
I don't know, but we're getting the word out and doing that through lots of
Lots of medium.
In fact, I'll be going to Nashville on Sunday and taping a segment with Candace Owens for her next podcast that will be aired Wednesday.
So, you know, there are ways of getting around this when you get a mouthpiece like Candice Owens with millions of people.
I'll be able to get this message out through there and the heck with LinkedIn.
That's right.
I mean, I think increasingly, obviously we depend on social media platforms to share our news and information.
and we do that ourselves at the Daily Signal, and we have faced our own efforts of these platforms trying to censor our content.
So we definitely understand the ramifications of this.
My question for you is, why is it on an issue like climate change that the left feels that they need to resort to these types of tactics in order to advance their agenda?
We're dangerous.
They cannot allow our factually based.
presentations to get out to the public.
Because what we say makes sense and it's backed up by science.
We're rational, thoughtful people that are scientists, that are distinguished scientists.
And we're presenting this information.
They cannot do it.
I look at this on a daily basis.
There's no way to sugarcoat it.
Your listeners are being lied to on a daily basis about climate change and this ramifications.
not that it's not happening, of course it is.
We've been warming for more than 300 years long before we started adding CO2.
The first 250 years was naturally driven, head behind.
But we're being told, oh, well, that all changed in the middle of the 20th century.
No, it didn't.
Those same natural forces are acting today as they have for millions of years.
And it's this kind of information.
We post the information confronting things like this false notion of the next sixth mass extinction.
I blew that up with by looking at the same data that the UN claimed that there will be one million species going extinct.
And over the next several decades, I looked at the same data and found that the average per year extinction was two species per year, not the 25,000 that they're predicting.
We see that fires are actually in decline.
The area burned in the United States, while it has been slightly increasing over several decades, is a fraction.
of what it was 80, 90, and 100 years ago.
So fires are declining.
Landfalling hurricanes are declining.
All of these things, if you look at the science,
it flies in the face of these claims
that are made by Joe Biden and the alarmist.
And the climate industrial complex, I call it.
Greg, one of the things that is on my mind as a parent,
and I know that we hear frequently from a lot of our audience
is that in schools today, you can't escape this.
I mean, they are confronted from a very early age, probably kindergarten on up, where they're taught certain things.
And they're not given the full perspective or even the facts that you yourself were trying to share in this case on LinkedIn.
What are some of the things that you would encourage our listeners to do, whether it's for their own sake or for their kids' sake or grandkids' sake to make sure that they have access to the truth?
Well, we're working.
And we recognize that at the CO2 Coalition.
Our membership, again, of scientists and engineers and climate experts,
recognize just what you're talking about, and we're working to fix that.
We've brought in educational experts.
Dr. Sharon Camp is leading that she's an educator.
We're writing lessons plans.
We don't believe we'll be able to get our information in the public schools.
We look at them, we recognize that it's just not going to happen.
So what we're doing is targeting the homeschooling crowd that's large and
growing with lesson plans, experiments to do. And we can use this climate change for, it's really
pretty cool how we can bring in just all sorts of science concerning photosynthesis and things
like that and teach kids basic science and send them a message again that's not indoctrinating
them but providing science and teach the scientific process to the children.
So we've got a new website.
We'll be launching shortly, and we've got a section called the Kids Corner.
We'll be having the educational videos.
We're in the process of working through children, a series of children's books.
We've teamed up with a group out of Brazil called the Intellectos.
We're working with them on books.
They're a science-based group down there trying to spit.
spread truth about Brazil and the Amazon rainforest.
So there's a lot that we're trying to do to further this information and get it out there.
And you can learn more at the CO2 Coalition, or excuse me, CO2coolition.org to learn more about
our group.
Yeah, I see on your website that you encourage people to see for themselves to make up their
own mind, essentially, and not necessarily believe the narrative that might be prevailing in
the media or from our politicians. And when it comes to some of the challenges that I think we
face with that very notion, that's one of the reasons we started the Daily Signal to create
another news source for Americans to get information. What is it that going forward you intend to do
with LinkedIn? I know you've gone through the appeals process. Do you feel that there might be an
opportunity in the future to get them to reverse course, or have you given up hope on that and
maybe just move on to another platform to get your information out to the public?
Perhaps they hear this.
Perhaps they get, I know a lot of people have gone away from LinkedIn.
They've heard about this and other events.
Maybe we'll shame them enough that they'll take another look at it.
I mean, clearly, if I say, I'm only going to post factual information and they come back
and say, no, it's not allowed.
You know, you would think somebody in charge would take a look at this after they hear about this,
hopefully this podcast or other things we can talk about.
And they'll say, boy, somebody made a big mistake.
And then I would go back on, again, because it was quite a good platform for me
in disseminating the science, the facts, and the data.
Well, Greg, thank you so much for joining the Daily Signal podcast today.
We appreciate it.
And again, the website is CO2 Coalition.org.
And for those of you who are following Greg on LinkedIn, you do have an ability to sign up for updates on his website.
So there are still our other vehicles where we can get the information in your hands.
And the Daily Signal is certainly there to carry this story and expose other examples of social media censorship.
because I think it's so important, critically important,
that Americans have access to this information
and aren't blocked by the big social media platforms.
So, Greg, thank you for the work that you do,
and we look forward to following updates
and hopefully a better resolution with LinkedIn in the future.
Thank you so much.
And I love the work that you're doing there.
My wife and I both get your daily emails,
and it's one of the first things we read.
So thank you for your work.
We appreciate it.
Stick around after the break.
We'll hear from Don Kirchhoff about his battle with Facebook about posts that are being suppressed.
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Don Kirchoff, as a native of Texas, a Heritage Foundation,
supporter and a Heritage Action Sentinel.
He's also one of the many conservatives who have experienced censorship on Facebook.
Don, welcome to the Daily Signal podcast.
Well, good morning.
You and I first met at a Heritage Foundation event back in 2018,
at which point you shared some of the troubling experiences you had at Facebook,
and I attempted to intervene and put you in touch with some folks there to help sort this out.
Sadly, three years later, it seems that you're still fighting to make sure that your content
is being seen on the platform.
Can you tell our listeners your story?
I had learned how to use Facebook probably at least 10 years ago,
and Facebook continued more and more to prevent me from posting things.
I would be blocked three days at a time, a week at a time,
and then eventually, I think it was in April of about 2018,
they just completely shut down my account.
It was as if I never existed on Facebook.
and Rob, that's of the time I spoke with you and you put me in touch with a person in Facebook.
And two or three days later, I was back up posting as normal, as if I had never been shut off.
And for the last two or three years, most of my posts have not had difficulty unless I crossed, I guess, values with a group of
liberals out there, and I believe what they would do is they would send messages to Facebook that I was
doing something against their community standards, and Facebook gradually more and more began, I believe,
shadow banning me. So when that would happen, I would simply do a screenshot of the evidence I had,
and I'd send it to this contact I have. You gave me in Facebook, and things would seem to get better.
but in the last couple of months,
the shadow banning has become severe.
In fact, some of the just outstanding information,
fact-based conservative information that I would post
would get no views, no attention whatsoever.
So I've, again, in the last couple of months,
began sharing screenshots of that type of information with Facebook.
And I really don't know what they're doing about it,
because I don't know what's being done behind my screen.
Don, for our listeners who might not know the term shadow banning,
it's something that members of Congress here in Washington have experienced
as well as users like yourself.
Can you explain what you are sharing when you contact Facebook
and what you mean by shadow banning?
When I contact Facebook, it's because a post of mine,
which could be an article prepared by the Heritage Foundation
or the Daily Signal or the New York Post,
any of these really great fact-based conservative pieces of information.
And I believe shadow banning to me means that when I post it,
there's no activity.
There are no likes, no dislikes, no comments, no shares,
or very, very few.
To me, that's what shadow banning is.
In other words, I put something out there,
but nobody can see it or do anything with it.
You're absolutely right. And we'll share some of those screenshots so our users can log on todailysignal.com and see for themselves what you mean.
It's really, you've shared them with me and it's really interesting.
We certainly appreciate that your help sharing Daily Signal stories and Heritage Foundation content.
My question for you is, does it appear to you that Facebook is taking issue with the specific sources of news and information?
Or is it posts from conservatives like yourself, as you said earlier, whose values might not align?
I really believe it's both.
I think some of the material I've posted, such as The Daily Signal, or New York Post,
from what I hear and read in the media, those sources are already being censored by Facebook.
So it's not a surprise to me that when I post them, they are also censored on my Facebook page.
But I think they are censoring me personally, and I think that's driven most of the time,
when there is an issue or content, and it might be on socialism or the border problem.
If I post something like that on a more liberal Facebook page, it's then that I can associate with that a more higher frequency of censorship on my own page.
So I think that part is personal because I become too visible.
out there in the liberal posting groups.
Well, and I think that's interesting because you've said you've investigated some of these liberal or left-leaning Facebook groups,
and you've discovered that in looking at some of their own posts and the content in those groups,
the same type of thing isn't happening.
So what did you discover as you poked around yourself on the platform, and what did you find?
What I find is on those liberal groups postings on the same,
content, but a liberal-leaning view, there can be hundreds and even thousands of
activities, actions on those posts, whereas if I post conservative content on my
Facebook page, it is what I call banned. Nobody can see it. Therefore, there's no action on it.
Same issue, just a different point of view. Don, taking a step back, you mentioned that you've been
active on Facebook now for about a decade. Why is Facebook an important platform for you to be sharing
this type of political or policy type of information? That's a great question because on Facebook,
you could put out more information and you can engage people. These discussion threads become
very educational. For example, my view is that I need to help push back on false information on
some of these subjects put out by the liberal media and therefore engage people in discussions,
both who have the same view as mine or who have an opposing view. That's welcome on my
Facebook page. It's really interesting how people with both my view and a more liberal view
on a subject will get engaged in Facebook discussions. But if the conservative view is
shadow banned are prevented from reaching the public, those intellectual discussions can't even
take place.
That's so true.
And we appreciate you taking the time that you want to engage with your fellow users on Facebook,
those friends and others who may be in Facebook groups with you to have those types of
conversations and discussions.
I've noticed to change myself on Facebook.
And I'm wondering if you can pinpoint a moment when you feel that Facebook started to
change in terms of how it was allowing you to share content? Was it sometime during the Trump
presidency? Was it before that? Was it just recently? Or has this been changing over the course of the
last five years in a way that is increasingly restrictive? I think it's been changing gradually
over a long period of time. I think it got significantly worse this summer. Why I don't know.
I just don't know why because I can't see what's going on in Facebook.
All I can see, in my view, is what the outcome is as impacting conservative information I try to post.
Facebook, unlike some of the other social media platforms, has created an oversight board.
It's separate from the company.
It makes big decisions, including things like should President Trump be banned from the platform.
Of course, that was a decision earlier this year that they said Facebook can't indefinitely do that.
they have to come up with some criteria.
Do you think that something like an oversight board is a good development?
And if you thought about appealing some of your cases to the oversight board to see if maybe you can escalate it to that level?
Well, the answer is yes.
In fact, I have been sharing some information.
The same information that I send to the Facebook content, I also am copying an attorney in Washington, D.C.
And you may not remember, Rob, but it is the same attorney who you put.
me in touch with in 2018. And for a while, he would respond every time I provided information.
He even got me involved with a Facebook questionnaire that was helping to sort of, I guess,
define who would be on this kind of board. And I continue to send that information to him,
but I don't know what, if anything, is being done with it.
Well, I think that that's the frustration. They do take a limited number of cases.
and usually the ones that they do take are fairly high profile.
But Don, whatever we can do to help us, certainly consider us.
I know you're sharing a lot of content that we produce,
so we're certainly have a stake in this game as well.
I wanted to ask you what your advice is to others who might find themselves
in a similar situation and be listening to this interview today.
Again, that's a good question too, because I see people making comments about being banned themselves
are blocked completely.
So when that happens, I direct message them
and ask them to contact me on my email address.
And when they do, I give them the contact in Facebook
to whom they can send detailed information
on what's happening to them.
So yes, I can be contacted by email.
The problem is there are so many direct messages
every day, I just cannot see them.
But if I know somebody's going to direct message me in a narrow window of time with
a problem and can contact me by email, I happily put them in contact with this Facebook person.
Well, Don, we appreciate the work that you're doing to help others and also to spread the
conservative message.
As we wrap up the interview here, I want to give you a moment to share what it is about
conservative principles and the values that you believe in that inspired you to become active as a
grassroots activist involved with the Heritage Action and the Heritage Foundation. Was there something in
your life that motivated you to take this step? Yes, when it became apparent that the only two
nominees for president of the Democrat Party was going to be either Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton,
that got my wife and my attention. Up until that point, we simply had our careers. We raised
our family, we minded our own business, and we voted. And that was the extent to which we became
politically involved. But when the Democrats were going to have only one of those two as a candidate,
we joined tea parties, and we began traveling, particularly to Washington, and attending
conferences on how to become an activist. It's there that we became involved with the Heritage
Foundation. It is at that time they set up heritage action. We joined immediately. We were among
the first to join. This group, more than any others we became in contact with, were action-oriented.
We wanted to do something, not just talk about it. And that's what we're enabled to do in Heritage Action
because of the great resources we get in that group. Well, and of course, Heritage is the parent
organization of the Daily Signal and Heritage Action is a strong, independent partner of ours.
So, Don, we appreciate your leadership and your efforts.
there in Texas, and we'll continue to keep in touch.
Thank you for speaking out and in giving voice to some of the concerns that I think so many
other conservatives have experienced on platforms like Facebook.
Well, Rob, thank you for being there when we needed help.
We really appreciate everything Heritage Foundation and Heritage Action provides for us.
Thank you, Don.
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We then take those RVs and we provide them to first responders, firefighters, and just regular
families who've lost their homes in these terrible wildfires. If you would like to learn more or are
interested in donating an RV, you can visit EmergencyRV.org. And even if you don't have an RV to donate,
the nonprofit also accepts financial donations, which are used to transport the mobile homes to the
families in need and outfit those RVs with household essentials. Again, that website is
emergency RV.org. And we certainly applaud.
Woody and his daughter, Luna, for doing the work that they are doing to support so many
families who have tragically lost their homes to California's wildfires.
What a novel idea, Virginia.
That is great.
Thanks for finding that story today.
I know.
It really is a novel and a practical need, but so fun, especially for a father and daughter
to do that project together.
And always looking out and helping others.
Well, we're going to leave it there for today.
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