The Daily Signal - Sean Spicer: Independent Voices Are Crushing Traditional News

Episode Date: November 9, 2024

In this special Saturday edition, former White House press secretary Sean Spicer and The Daily Signal's Rob Bluey discuss the evolving media landscape, particularly the rise of independent media outlets and their impact on legacy media. Spicer reflects on his experiences as White House press secretary and the importance of adapting communication strategies in the current political climate. He emphasizes the need for the upcoming Trump administration to recognize the significance of independent media and to hire strategically to have an effective communications operation. And he shares insights from his own journey into independent media and the unique perspective he brings to political analysis. Key Takeaways: Independent media is becoming increasingly influential in politics. Trump's media strategy signals a shift away from legacy media. The trust in media is at an all-time low. Spicer's independent journey allows for more authentic communication. The importance of hiring strategically in the White House communications team. Long-form podcasts are a growing medium for political discourse. The media's bias affects public perception and trust. Spicer emphasizes the need for transparency in media. Engaging with independent media can enhance communication strategies. The future of media will likely involve more direct audience engagement. Learn More: The Sean Spicer Show SeanSpicer.com Election 2024 Coverage w/Sean Spicer Keywords: independent media, Trump, legacy media, Sean Spicer, election 2024, media trust crisis, communication strategies, political analysis, podcasting, media landscape Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

From the stories of everyday Americans to detailed policy conversations, we are going beyond the headlines to discuss the issues and events that have and are shaping this nation. Welcome to the Daily Signal podcast, weekend edition. I'm Rob Blewey, your host today. Thank you so much for joining us. We'll be right back with today's interview. Pro-life, pro-women conservative and feminist? That's right, we're problematic women. The radical left does not know what to do with strong independent. women who believe in traditional values and love America. So you might say we're problematic to the left narrative of what a woman should be. Here on problematic women, we sort through the news to find the stories that you care about. Join Problematic Women on the Daily Signals YouTube

or Rumble every Wednesday or catch the show wherever you get your podcast on Thursday morning. And be sure to follow Problematic Women on Instagram. The biggest loser of the 2024 election was clearly Kamala Harris, but coming in a close second was arguably the legacy media. Both candidates decided to skip some of the traditional stops along the media circuit and take their message directly to independent media outlets, including one of the people that I'm about to talk to, Sean Spicer, who has a close relationship with one of the candidates, having been his former press secretary in the White House. Sean, it is great to see you today. Good to see you, Rob. Well, you have gone on, you've seen the media from both sides.

You used to be obviously on the side, taking the questions, taking the shots from reporters, and now you yourself have built a successful show and brand of your own. What are your initial takeaways on this really transformational time that we live in in terms of the growth of independent media outlets like your own? Well, look, I think that this is, this may not be. This may be either the last or the second to last cycle that legacy media plays the outside role that it does. You know, you guys, when I was press secretary, I took questions from the Daily Signal in the briefing room, and you guys were, you know, at the forefront of that.

And then Corinje Jampier started to push out independent media in favor of big legacy media. That was opposite of how I handled the media at the White House, where I was an all-of-the-above kind of guy. and I think what this cycle showed, the Trump campaign in particular, was independent media, long-form podcasts are the future. And I am working on a piece right now, Rob, that I'll publish next week that makes the case that the next press secretary should really take that into account in how they do their job. You know, I've told this story in my book, but I'll tell a little more in detail. but when I, when I, when we won in 2016, we sat down with the White House Correspondent Association

and they said, this is how it works. You know, when you do a briefing, you'll start, you do your thing. And then when you're done, like, ready to call on questions, you start with the Associated Press and you kind of work your way down the front row of the briefing room. And that's the New York Times, ABC, NBC, the Washington Post, et cetera. And then, you know, after enough times gone by, the Associated Press reporter in the room sitting in that front seat will say, thank you very much. And that signals the end of your briefing. And I was like, I'm sorry, say this again. So you guys tell me when my briefing's over after you've told me who I get to call on. So I said, well, okay, thanks. So the first briefing I came on, you know, the first row expects, that front row expects their due.

And I went to the back of the room and called on Daniel Halper of the New York Post. And I think for most Americans, they wouldn't know the difference and they didn't care. But it was a signal to the press corps that we were going to be different and we weren't going to care about your traditional, like you didn't run this place. We do. And then when Julie Pace, the AP reporter, about 45 minutes, said, okay, thank you very much. I said, no, Julie, thank you. I'm going to keep going and went on for another 45 minutes. Now, I think that this incoming White House needs to, in their own way, right?

I brought in Skype reporters or reporters via Skype because issues that happen throughout the country, you know, Montana or California or Rhode Island, Ohio, they don't all have White House correspondence. And so my goal was to say, hey, if you're a talk radio host, if you're a local journalist, you let us know, we'll put you up into the briefing room via Skype and take your questions. And it infuriated the correspondence. there because they don't want, they want to control the message and the medium. And so they hated it.

But I think that, you know, that this incoming press team should do something very similar, figure out how they're going to put their stamp on this, but make it clear that, you know, the New York Times doesn't, isn't running the show. Oh, I commend you for that. And I also thank you for always giving Fred Lucas, our White House correspondent, an opportunity to ask questions. Of course, he had some of that opportunity. in the Obama years, but then was, along with 440 other reporters, booted from the White House press

briefing room under Joe Biden, which I still maintain was one of the biggest uncovered stories of the last year. I'm glad you brought that up. So I, and obviously, I, you know, took questions from Fred, but my view was if the daily signal or, you know, who cares, wanted to come cover the White House, it's a, it's the people's house, come, come cover it. And, and like I said, my, my deference was, more rather than less. Corinjean Pierre, for all the talk about democracy and the First Amendment, they kicked these people out. They kicked them out.

And no one said a peep in the White House Correspondents Association. Yeah. Well, it's truly disappointing. Fortunately, the Daily Signal was able to make some moves. And we just received news recently that we were able to obtain congressional press credentials, which is now a prerequisite for getting into the Whitehouse. They made it basically that what Corinne did was made it very difficult for anyone independent. So they raised the bar and made it more difficult, which benefits the Washington Post and the New York Times and the legacy media.

It sure does. Absolutely. Now, Sean, let's go back because both candidates, I mean, to give Kamala Harris some credit. I mean, she went on some podcasts too. She didn't completely ignore them. but there were some key moments that Donald Trump made that were, you know, quite different from even a Trump candidacy of 2016 or 2020. One that stands out in my mind is when he simply refused to sit down with 60 minutes. How significant was that in terms of sending the media a message that he was no longer going to play by their rules? I think that was huge.

It was the right. It's a big audience, right? You know that. I mean, it's the largest. They still have the largest viewership, I think, outside of like, you know, football. and some sporting events. But Leslie Stahl lied, and then they said they didn't lie, and Donald Trump called them out and said, well, number one, you lied, number two, look at how you've treated me in the past.

And obviously, we didn't know it at the time that he said no. But then we saw what they did with Kamala Harris, which was edit the video to make her look better. And they, again, even they lied about that. When it's sort of, I mean, the term that gets used is gaslighting, right? It's like, we can see it. You showed the full video. and then you showed how you edited it, and then they said, we never edited it. And that is literally the definition of what the kids call gaslighting.

So I'm glad he made that decision. Trump always amused me because he has this thing with some, the New York Times, Time magazine. There's some things that he just, you know, he's sort of are tried and true with him. But luckily, 60 Minutes wasn't one of those. and I'm glad because it was the right signal. You've got to say, you've got to be willing to say no. And I also, one other example is for four years he didn't attend the White House correspondents to dinner.

And kudos to him for that because the idea that Republicans are props sitting in the audience while we get made fun of, I'm all for making fun of people and having a joke. And like, I got a pretty thick skin and a good sense of humor. But like, why are we, it is a bunch of leftists that mock Republicans and they want to have a dinner bill and to call it bipartisan as we sit there and get made fun of. That's not, I don't understand why Republicans go. And I actually, it infuriates me that Republican lawmakers and staffers, whatever, I mean, I get it. They want to rub shoulders and get a picture or selfie with George Clooney or whomever. But to me, this is the problem with folks on the right. We've got to

stand on principle and say, nope, I don't really care about going. And the folks like Donald Trump, when he says, I'm not going to the correspondence dinner, and I'm not going to do CBS. That's the right move because he can go on Joe Rogan and reach 70 million people, or more probably by now, and have a much greater influence. So that's why I'm saying, I think this White House needs to start saying, how do we bring more voices in? That doesn't mean, I don't think you should kick anyone out. So keep the New York Times. Let them sit there. Let them have their access. but just why give them extra, I mean, they, or the Washington House or NBC. I mean, NBC's coverage of Trump was horrendous.

And I was looking at the lineup for Meet the Press this weekend. It's like there was no election. I mean, it's like, we're going to sit down and cover it from every, from the greatest, never-Trumpers ever. And I just, I don't understand why you would reward an outlet like NBC or a program like Meet the Press. Yeah, it's a great point. And I was going to ask you about that because we have seen recent studies come out that shows that trust in media is now at a significantly lower point than at any point that's been measured in history. We did our own exit polling at the Daily Signal with Scott Rasmussen on Election Day. A majority of voters in all of the swing states had a negative view of the media and said that they poorly covered the presidential election.

And so what is the thinking in these newsrooms? So, I mean, if you could just put yourself there, like, do they try to recalibrate? I at least remember after 2016, many of them said, wow, where you were really out of touch with the rest of the country? We need to embed people in some of these communities where that went for Trump. It doesn't seem like, at least in the last few days, that that's their attitude at all this time around. Yeah, two points that I want to make on this, Rob. The first one is this. You know, I do a segment on my podcast every Wednesday called Road to 270.

We walk through every single state and look at the data. The actual data registration. early vote, poll, and then we projected. So we put Trump for the last two weeks before the election of 312 electoral votes. That's exactly where he's going to end up. Now, I'm not any smart. This wasn't my data. It wasn't my analysis. I would say, hey, I talked to Rob Blue. He's been here. This is what he says. And I talked to this other. So the only thing I will take credit for is listening to smart people and making decisions based on data, right? It's like when you wake up morning and so one saying, wow, congratulations that you brought an umbrella. And it's like,

it wasn't that I just made it up. I listened to the weather forecast and they said, hey, it's going to rain according to Doppler weather, right? So you're smart because you listen to people who know what they're talking about in that area. And so the reason I bring this up is so many people on Wednesday said, we didn't see this coming. And my answer to them is, then you were watching the wrong things. If you watch MSNBC or read the Washington Post or Politico or CNN, then I hope you've learned. your lesson and realize that they're not telling you because it wasn't hard. The data was there. The numbers were there. We have Scott Keschel on my show from time to time who will literally

go through the analysis of how many new registrations. I mean, like blah, blah, we break it all down. And we nailed it. And I had him on the show again to break down kind of the after action report. We're both military guys. And I said, all right, this is the AAR. We sit down and go, what did we get right? What did we get wrong? And he nailed every. one of the states. And that was part of my analysis. Again, I wasn't that, it's not that I'm saying, God, Sean knows this, but I know who knows their stuff. It brought them on and said, tell me where, and I would question them. I'd say, hey, I've been told that Nevada's out of reach, but here's what I'm seeing. And I would have people debated it. I said, okay, listen, based on this data,

on the number of early votes, both in Washoe County and in Clark County, you know, and the returns the way they're coming in, the registration, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Here's where I'm, you know, and I moved Nevada into a red column because I had had it first blue, then as a toss-up, but I was willing to look at the data, and that's not what most outlets do. And so that's the first thing I'll say. Second is in 2016, like literally I could, I mean, to the date, to the place, we got a call from the senior most people at NBC, and they'd asked to meet with a couple of us from the campaign. And I said, hey, we admit it.

We got it wrong. We're going to have these pop-up bureaus, their words not mine, in flyover country. and because we just, we're taught, you know, we didn't see it. We'll admit it. We got, okay. What the media has learned, though, is they don't want to be factual. This isn't about being right or getting the story anymore. There's a reason that Chuck Todd got pushed out at NBC because he wouldn't go as far left as someone like Kristen Welker, right? So they brought, they were, the audience was demanding more further left, further left, hate Trump, hate Trump, pay Trump, and they just said, fine, we'll go with it. They don't care. Like, the answer to a

normal news organization is how do we recalibrate? How do we get this right? And that's why I brought up the example of the roundtable this weekend on the Sunday shows. And it's not just theirs. ABC's the same thing. Where I'm looking, I'm going, did you guys actually realize that there was an election in Donald Trump won and won in spectacular fashion? Because your show and your lineup doesn't reflect that. And so the answer to your question is that, no, they're not going to recalibrate. They're not going to hire new people. That's not what they do. And it's, it's, they're going to double down on stupid. Yeah. They, they clearly will. I will say one of the, well, encouraging, but also somewhat depressing numbers in the exit polling we did was just about

half, 50 percent of the voters that we surveyed, who actually voted on election day, said that they got 50% of their news from television and news outlets. Now, they could be watching your show, for instance, on their television. I hope they are. But we're seeing the number increase with podcasts. We're seeing the number increase with social media. So that's all very encouraging. But I still feel like there's far, far too much of a monopoly that these news organizations

have. And when you see things like what you just described with the Sunday panel or this video that the New York Times put out, talking about Trump and just their perspectives on it, I mean, It gives you a clear sense that they are living in this elitist bubble where they just talk to amongst themselves. They don't have any interaction with the rest of America. That's it. But that's the thing is that when you talk only to the people in your bubble, you don't even acknowledge that there's another side. Right?

To them, their answer was no one could like Trump. He's a racist, a misogynist. And yet I brought this up. Look at the polls, the exit polls. I know you guys did yours as well. 46% of the Hispanic community nationwide votes for Trump, largest ever, right? And in several states, he got the majority of it. Look at him with black men.

He outdid, you know, Kamala lost traction with women, right? Think about that. Her entire campaign was targeted at women and how their rights were getting taken away and all this other BS. And look at how well he did. But to them, that's it. Democracy was under attack and all this. yet the Democratic Party, in three instances, Donald Trump, RFK, and Jill Stein, the Green Party candidate, they tried to get them taken off the ballot, okay? And they want to have an argument about democracy

dying or being under attack? I mean, most people looked around and said, wait a second, this doesn't make sense. Like, I hear that you guys are doing that. I saw you push out Joe Biden for Kamala Harris after he won all these primaries. Like, that doesn't seem very democratic. and so the problem is the media is all in. You look at like a Jake Tapper. The thing that they want to hide this in their bios, Jake Tapper was a Democratic staffer on Capitol Hill, right? He worked for Chelsea Clinton's mother-in-law. Chuck Todd was a Democratic staffer on Capitol Hill and did, was it, you know, worked in Democratic races. George Stephanopoulos was Bill Clinton's spokesperson. Like, why are we shocked when we see this, right? That's, they, this is their living. And, you

yet they hide that from you so you don't realize, oh, they say, well, we're not biased. They are. Every question they ask on a Sunday show is, how could you possibly vote for a horrible man like Donald Trump? And then the question of the Democrat is, did the Republican denounce Donald Trump enough for you? Yeah, it's truly, truly incredible. So, I mean, we've diagnosed the problem. You are providing a solution, and you've been able to amass a significant audience, several hundred thousand subscribers on your YouTube channel and, and obviously for your daily shows. I mean, it's not just one. Tell us about your approach. Why is it that you decided to take this model and really embrace it? And what do you think that is fueling all of these people who are

tuning in? So a couple things. Number one, so I was at Newsmax for three years. I had a show. It had my name on it. And I would have to explain to people. Like, yes, it's called Spicer & Company, but I don't own it. The network does. I have a W-2 employee of that network. They can veto guests. They can veto subjects. They can force me to ask certain questions. I work for them. I'm an employee. That's the relationship you have with any employer, right? That's the, you work for them. You don't like the terms you leave. And so my contract was up, and we were in the process of, you know, talking about another contract. And I was offered the opportunity. to go independent, to build a show with the team, and then to license it. Kind of like what Tucker has done, Megan Kelly, Dan Bongino, Dana Lash. I mean, you name it, right? And you start to look at the

numbers. And so I own the show, Sean Spicer Show, very, you know, it took us a long time to cope with the name. And it airs on the first television network at 7 o'clock every night right before Bill O'Reilly. And then I stream it. on and so we get advertisers. We've got some great sponsors that have been with us, in many cases, for, for, you know, months on end now. But I own it. I pay the staff. I mean, like I run it like a business. But I can have the people on that I want, talk about the subjects that I want, talk about it in the way that I want. And so what also makes it unique, Rob, is there's a lot of political pundits out there with opinions. And that's great. I, I listen to some of them. Because I think, you know,

it's great hearing perspectives. But the difference that I offer and what I try to tell the audience for my show is that I've been in the game. I was the White House Press Secretary. I was the chief strategist for the RNC. I was the comms director there. I'm 26 years as a military officer ton of time, you know, on Capitol Hill and in campaigns. I did by first campaign, 1994, with the contract with America that New Gingrich led. And so part of what I try to bring to the table that, again, it's just different. It's an analysis, right? So here's why this decision is being made. Here's why this is happening. And to share that with folks that no other host can do, none, full stop. You may like them, they may give you great opinions. And like I said, some of them I turn into because I enjoy their opinions.

But they're that, right? I can say the reason that the House Republicans are doing this is because here's the forces that are pushing them that way, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. or here are the random coalitions, or the campaign is doing this because at this point in a campaign, these are the decisions you have to make, et cetera, et cetera. And I love the idea of being able to give people sort of a behind the scenes look at what it's like in a campaign or on Capitol Hill or in the White House. During this transition period of Trump, I was there for 2016. I can tell you, you know, what is thinking is, how his interview process goes with some of these people. I was in the room for countless of these things.

there's no one else that can do that, right? And then went on to government and by the way, here's what it was like, you know, standing up at White House. So the unique perspective that I bring, I think, is sort of fun because I like it. I always had to be somebody else's spokesperson. And so the ability to say, I can tell you things now because I'm speaking for myself, that I used to be able to say, well, the president believes this or a congressman says this. And so now I can do things and say things and cover things that might not.

not have been able to be possible in the past. I think the authenticity that you bring to the show is quite clear. That's probably one of the reasons why the audience loves it so much. You also have the morning meeting, which you actually talk directly to people. I mean, like, where else can somebody just, right? Yeah, so it streams on my YouTube channel at 9 o'clock Eastern every morning. It's between a half hour and 45 minutes. We run it.

So just to give people a background on this, Mark Halpern and I used to both be at Newsmax. And every network has a morning meeting, right? It's they, you know, in our case, our news director led it. And they get on. Here's the stories that are happening. And then so they would a lot of times lean on Mark and myself to explain, okay, why is the president going here? What's he doing? How should we cover it?

And so I said to Mark one day afterwards, I said, you know, the funny thing is, because he's been at ABC, Bloomberg, all over the place. I said, you know what would be cool if you could actually do this out in the open for people. show them what this morning meeting is like. And so we kind of, we're like, let's do it. And it just has grown and grown and grown. Where now tens of thousands of people the other day, I think we just had over 100,000 people take part in the morning meeting. But to your point, the cool part is that if you log in through Mark's app, it's called Two-Way,

you can ask us questions. So you can, like, we bring you into the conversation and say, you know, why is Trump, why did he announce that? What qualities was he looking for in that person? What's the first thing he's going to do? And myself, Mark, and then Dan Turrentine, who is a former finance director for Hillary Clinton. He was a House of Representatives, Chief of Staff, been around the block a bunch. Give us their perspective.

And again, the difference with that show is it's really inside baseball. So it's explaining to viewers why a decision is being made. So sometimes we'll talk about like an ad. And I'll say, you know, that ad, I think it was trying to target, you know, young men, but I think it missed the mark. idea is to explain to people what they were going for, maybe why something was tried, why it was successful or not, and to provide analysis as much as opinion. Yeah, it's truly fantastic. Enjoy tuning in and highly recommend that Daily Signal subscribers check it out as well.

Sean, you mentioned the transition. So let's close with some of your thoughts on the transition so far and get your perspective on what you experienced back in 2016. So President-elect Trump has made his first big selection and his chief of staff, Susie Wiles. What are your initial thoughts on her and what she brings to the team in terms of a leader? Yeah, it was a smart move. Susie's been around President Trump now for well over two years and in a senior leadership. She was on the 2016 campaign, the 2020, but as like a state person.

This time she was at the highest levels. So to stick around that well, she's going to start off really understanding the president, his mindset, his you know, how he operates, which was something that nobody else had done. She's got the respect of people from, you know, all the Maga World to the Jeb Bush's through the world. She, so she knows Trump. She knows people. She is very well respecting the campaign. I think she's going to do very, very well and hit the ground running. What lessons from 2016 do you think Trump learned that he would do differently this time around? I think the biggest is personnel. There's a lot of people who came into the government to work in the Trump White House or administration in 2016 that we assumed were there for the right reasons, meaning that they understood there was an election. He won. We're going to pursue his agenda and get it done. And I think a lot of people were like, yeah, yeah, that's great. But here are the things that I care about. Here are the things that I want to get done. And I think that he knows

now, what questions to ask, what type of people that he wants, and you're going to see a much more focused set of individuals come in who are proven that they understand the broader goal at stake, which is to advance the agenda, to get things done, not to put a little nameplate on your desk that says assistant secretary or whatever. The conversations that I've had with people at the senior levels of the transition are ones that reflect a goal to get people who are going to come in with a mission that says we have a clock that says four years, let's get things done and make this government more effective and efficient. Yeah, no, that's so true. I remember covering that transition in 2016. And the fact that at the time the Daily Signal was part of the Heritage Foundation,

and you had people literally leaving the next day heading up to New York, you know, to help out and certainly much more organized this time around. I believe I looked it up. You were picked on December 22nd of 2016 when you and the comms team started to have an official position with the White House. Let's bring it back to where we started here. You had some advice for what the team might consider doing. Do you want to leave us with any thoughts on this new communications team and how they can. really leave their mark on the White House come January? Yeah, I think, like I said, the biggest thing is to really recognize the importance and growth and impact of independent media. That's, I think,

the biggest thing that they can do is recognize where that base of power is now. The people are tuning in to independent media sources at their choosing, right? So it's one thing to have the Today show on the background as you're getting ready for breakfast. But the second that you get in the car, you're saying I want to listen to the Sean Spicer show or the Daily Signal. I'm choosing to do that because I have 20 minutes now or I'm going for a walk later today or on a bike ride or whatever. That's a very different landscape than this is the only way I can get my news at 5 o'clock. I have to sit down and watch it. So that's the number one thing. I would say, you know, there's some other logistical advice that I would give them that would bore everybody. And then the other thing is, I would just say, for the folks at the top, there's not a lot of spots in the

the White House press team and even in the comms team. And so hire smartly. There's a lot of people who want the jobs, make sure they have a bona fide role. You know, there's a lot of people who think that they just deserve a job. And it's like, okay, when you only have eight people, you need to make sure that you have eight strong people and that they're focused on the priorities of advancing for the president, not, hey, I want to get myself on TV. Sean, you shared some of the lessons that you learned from the job as press secretary in your book, The Briefing, you're the best-selling author of several other books. But share with our viewers and our listeners of how they can keep tabs on all of the things

that you're doing. And once again, when they can tune in to your show. Easiest thing is shonspicer.com. That's got links to everything. My evening show, the Sean Spicer Show, airs every night at 6. You can get it everywhere, Rumble, Apple, podcast, whatever. But YouTube is the best to watch, to subscribe, because we do. live events a lot of times. Ran on Sunday nights, we'll just go live and take questions from people.

So if you're on the YouTube page, that's sort of a nice little bonus. Sean Spicer.com, though, is a newsletter that comes out twice a week as well. And then the morning meeting, same thing. It's on the YouTube channel, just stream. So if you hit the notification button, you'll get everything. And that's every morning at 9 a.m. Eastern time. Those are probably the most, and then obviously all the social stuff is there, Twitter and Instagram. But the YouTube page is probably the most effective way to stay up today. Well, we'll be sure to put a link in the show notes and description so that make it easy for for anybody who wants to check it out to be able to do. So, Sean, it is always a pleasure to talk to you. Thank you so much for joining the Daily

Signal today. Well, I appreciate you having me. And I know you guys aren't affiliated or whatever, but it was great to be in your building for election night coverage. We had a blast. And it was great to see. We had some great folks from the Signal on the show as well. It sure is. And I'll make sure that we link to that one as well. It's quite a show. I think you went for what, four or more hours. We did the show, we did the tape show, and then we went live for almost five hours. Five hours, amazing. Until about almost one in the morning.

So, yeah, I was ready to go to bed. Five hours. Well, Sean, like I said, good to see you again. We'll catch up again soon. Take care of. We are going to leave it there for today. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button so you never miss out on new shows from the Daily Signal. Every weekday, catch top news in 10 right here in this.

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