The Daily Signal - Sen. Marshall: Google Is 'Using Algorithms to Campaign Against’ Trump

Starting point is 00:00:00 Americans don't trust the FBI, and they feel like the Secret Service is incompetent. Americans don't feel safe. And that is the number one defining issue of this election. This is the Daily Signal podcast for Friday, August 2nd. I'm Virginia Allen. And that was Senator Roger Marshall of Kansas. After the assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump, there's growing safety concerns across the country. And given growing tension in the Middle East, that's only escalating. Senator Marshall joins me on the show today to discuss the state of play, both here in the United States and abroad on security issues. He also discusses an investigation that he's called for into Google as they are reportedly suppressing Google search results related to the assassination attempt on former president Donald Trump.

Starting point is 00:00:56 Stay tuned for my conversation with Senator Marshall after this. This is Rob Lewy from The Daily Signal. Looking for a podcast that cuts through the noise and delivers honest, truthful, and conservative perspectives, check out the Daily Signal podcast. Each weekday, we bring you interviews with policymakers on the issues that matter most. From breaking down complex legislation to exposing media bias, we're committed to giving you the facts that you won't hear from the establishment media. Subscribe now to the Daily Signal podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen. Well, it's my pleasure to be joined once again today by Senator Roger Marshall of Kansas. Senator, welcome back to the show. It's great to have you.

Starting point is 00:01:41 Virginia, it's great to be back in the new studio, the Rush Limbaugh studio. That's right. What an honor. Oh, well, this is very exciting for me as well. Where's the golden microphone? We'll order a couple. There we go. Well, we have no shortage of news to talk about today. I want to begin by talking about an announcement that you just recently made in relation to an investigation of Google.

Starting point is 00:02:02 We have seen that search results. related to the assassination attempt on former president Donald Trump appear to be being suppressed. What do we know about this? Well, they are being suppressed. Your listeners right now can Google Donald Trump, see what comes up, and it won't be favorable, and then Google Kamala Harris' name and see what comes up. And, you know, she's right there ready for Sainhood, it looks like, as well. Or even Google search assassination of Trump, and it'll push you to the assassination of Truman instead.

Starting point is 00:02:32 I've tried it myself, and it's amazing. it does. You type in TR and Truman comes up, not Trump. The famous assassination of Harry S. Truman. I didn't remember that in reading in history. But at the end of the day, Google has certain protections by law. And it's called Section 230. And if Google wants to be MSNBC and censor and direct people, if they want to be a publisher, then so be it. But they shouldn't enjoy that protection the Section 230 does. The way Google is supposed to function as the world's largest search engine is like the county square. So you and I, your listeners could all go to the county square. We could post our announcements.

Starting point is 00:03:10 We could post anything we wanted to post. But now Google is taken down things and directing you. So they're no longer functioning as a search engine that just assimilates all the things. But now they're using algorithms to campaign against President Trump. And I think that this is an FEC violation. What is the value of the world's largest and real? they have a monopoly as a search engine pushing all bad information about Trump and then all this fairy tale information about Kamala Harris. So you have said your plan to launch an investigation into what

Starting point is 00:03:42 exactly is happening here. What do you expect that investigation might uncover? Well, we need some help. You know, we need the FCC to step in. We need the FTC to step in because of this, that has this monopoly as well. But I think it's to bring attention. And then if we had a Republican Senate majority, then maybe we could do something. What are we going to do with that Section 230 to redefine the protection for Google? Have you spoken with anyone at Google about this? Have you called on them to say, hey, you guys need to answer some questions here about what you're doing? Well, we sent them a formal letter with the questions that we want answered.

Starting point is 00:04:16 But we don't want to wait for that. I really do think that if we had a strong commander in chief, that they would be intervening already. Yeah. There's still so many questions following this assassination attempt on former president Donald Trump. And we saw that earlier this week, Secret Service acting director Ronald Roe. He testified before members of the Senate. I was really interested in some of the things that Roe said. And he did admit that, yes, kind of the buck stops with the Secret Service.

Starting point is 00:04:41 And he said, you know, it wasn't local law enforcement that worked to blame. It was Secret Service. Do you think that we will see real answers from Roe? Now that Cheetle is out, former director Cheetle is out, is Roe going to bring real accountability? or is it going to be more the same? He will not bring real accountability. He is an operation cover-up right now. I want to back up in the backdrop.

Starting point is 00:05:05 Why is this the number one topic? When I go back home, this is all people want to talk about. And this is why Americans don't trust the FBI and they feel like the Secret Service is incompetent. And then they set there and say to themselves, goodness, if the Secret Service can't protect President Trump, if the FBI, we don't trust them, we have an open border,

Starting point is 00:05:25 the leading candidate from the Democrats is a person who believes in lawlessness, that she promotes cashless bail, that she promotes defund the police. You know, again, she oversaw this 11 million people crossing our border illegally. So Americans don't feel safe. And that is the number one defining issue of this election, is which presidential candidate will make our family safe again. Back to the Secret Service here, he lied to us multiple times. He didn't give us good consistent answer.

Starting point is 00:05:54 So on the one hand, he had the start of the conference of the hearing. He says, I take responsibility. But later he blames local police. So then I would ask him, did you have your meeting as scheduled with those local law enforcement officers that morning? And he said yes, but the law enforcement officer says no. So I said, well, show me the proof. Don't you think that they would have a diagram? Okay, we sit down with the local law enforcement and says, our secret service officer snipers will be here at positions A, B, and C.

Starting point is 00:06:21 We expect local officers to be at point C, D&E, et cetera, so you don't have any type of friendly fire. So there was a huge communication breakdown there. Let me jump to the quick of this. There was individual failures, but systemic failures. I've seen enough. We need to turn the place upside down. We need a crisis intervention team to come in there yesterday. Again, a strong, powerful commander-in-chief would have fired Cheatel on day number one and appointed someone to come in and solve the problems.

Starting point is 00:06:49 Look, Congress is not going to be able to micromanage the problems that are there. We need someone like a Mike Pompeo or a Cash Patel to come in and turn that place upside down and bring back standard protocols that actually work. Think about this. 48% of the secret servant agents quit the year before. 48%. Barely 50% of the people that work there at the agency trust their superior officers. I'm telling you, it's a broken culture.

Starting point is 00:07:15 We fired the coach, but now all the assistant coaches are still there. they're in operation cover-up. We need to bring somebody from outside in there and start over. I have heard some folks, such as Mark Morgan, the Acting Commissioner of Customs and Board Protection, call for there to be an independent investigation that would just be experts appointed to really investigate what happened at the Secret Service, also investigating the FBI. Do you think that that is needed? So over a week ago, that's exactly what we said to do. So we called for two things. A crisis intervention team and an independent, non-political

Starting point is 00:07:48 investigation. It'll take Congress two or three years to come up with a report. We don't have the resources, the people, the expertise, but I think this independent commission could go in there, a 9-11 style commission could go in there. And really, no matter of two or three weeks, could funnel the key information to the appropriate committees on Congress. I'm not a big person for forming committees and praying about things. Lots of prayer, but you don't have to form the committees. So yes, that's what we need as an independent. But I don't have to, there's no more conclusions that I need to prove to me that we need to start over. We need to get rid of the DEI hires and hire people to do their job. What are a couple of the big questions that you would want

Starting point is 00:08:28 answered off the bat that you have not, you and members of Congress have not gotten answers from, either from Cheeto or from Roe that you're saying, okay, first things first, we need answers to X, Y, and Z. Right. I think number one is why was the building where the assassination attempt occurred from not in the in the perimeter zone the security perimeter. There was actually 10 buildings in that within 500 yards. So I asked him, I said, don't you have a protocol that would define what should be inside that security? And they said, well, kind of maybe we're not sure. And then my next, and I've asked him these questions without the answers. I said, how do you determine where you should surge secret service agents too? So on the day of the assassination

Starting point is 00:09:10 nation attempt. Obviously, President Trump was outdoors, 50,000 people. There's 10 buildings with the direct line of sight. There's trees. I mean, it would take 200 officers really to make that place secure. Meanwhile, Dr. Jill Biden's in Vegas watching shows and ordering ice cream. And then they're surging agents to her, I would assume. So they got 8,000 agents across the nation. They're protecting 33 people on that particular day. Why didn't they surge more people there? Why didn't they have drones? Why didn't they have better communication? Why didn't they have special communication radios, walkie-talkies, if you will, that were all in the same frequency? So when this person jumps up on an air conditioner with a gun and he goes in, he crosses four or five buildings in plain sight,

Starting point is 00:09:56 why isn't somebody on the walkie-talkie yelling, shooter, shooter, shooter. And immediately the Secret Service gets somebody off the stage as well. So those are a few. And it's like, I want to see the protocols. There have to be protocols that would dictate to figure out how many, how many, how many, How many agents should we send to Trump? How many do we send to Jill Biden? How do we make this perimeter? Where's the protocol for setting down with local law enforcement? Trust me that these people, law enforcement, should have some type of protocols that would define the situation. So it's not a political decision. Yeah. Senator, I think all of those questions you just raised are questions that Americans are asking and all want the answers to. So we look forward to seeing what this investigation doesn't cover.

Starting point is 00:10:40 But I want to take a minute and talk about some news of the day, some news that has broken just over the past really 24 hours. We saw that on Wednesday, late, late Wednesday night, the U.S. entered into a plea deal with three of the terrorists behind the 9-11 attack, including Kahalad Mohammed, who is said to be the mastermind behind the 9-11 attack. And the deal takes specifically the death penalty off the table. it also holds would cause these terrorists to plead guilty to a whole slew of charges, including the death of nearly 3,000 Americans. After 20 years, why this plea deal now? Yeah. Well, I assume it's because we have a weak commander in chief.

Starting point is 00:11:24 You know, it's kind of interesting, the theme of this. I didn't come in here with a theme on this topic, but the end conclusion to all these topics is we have a weak person and commander in chief. But this is a slap in the face of the 3,000 families that lost loved ones. And there are tens of thousands of people out there now with long-term medical conditions, those first responders that because of that have been a well. So it's more than 3,000. It's tens of thousands of people.

Starting point is 00:11:51 How many of my soldiers, and I say my soldiers, my son is serving right now overseas, enlisted in the army. And I served, my dad served, my brother served. But this is a slap in the face of those soldiers who made the, ultimate sacrifice. It's a slap in the face to their families. And of course, the people that lost their limbs and their eyesight and long, long problems from the burn pits over there. There's so many things that have resulted because of 9-11. So it's a slap in the face. And again, where's the leadership in the White House explaining this is why we did it? They make this announcement.

Starting point is 00:12:26 I don't know what you, I've not seen anything in an explanation of what precipitated this. It makes no sense to me. Yeah. Well, yeah, as of the recording of the show, we haven't heard anything from the president on this. And I saw reports as of Thursday morning of people sort of saying, well, Biden will probably make his statement. So we'll wait and find out if he does. But I think that that big question that Americans are asking is why on earth would the death penalty be taken off the table? And also, what message does this send to Hezbollah, to Hamas, to Iran, where there is growing conflict not only between those entities, and nations in Israel, but also between them in the U.S.

Starting point is 00:13:07 Yeah. You know, what I'm worried about is Joe Biden doesn't even know this has happened. And I'm not trying to be mean-spirited. I have significant empathy for the president's health right now. And though I have empathy, Russia, China, Iran, they don't care. They don't have the empathy. I think it's important that I don't hear anybody talking about this. Look, I was taught to stand beside Israel and I'm going to keep standing beside them. Let's go back to another horrific event in America's history.

Starting point is 00:13:31 1983. I'm in medical school at the time. And in Beirut, Lebanon, 240 Marines were murdered by Hezbollah as well. And one of the people that Israel took out this week was the leader of that event. So in 1983, you can do the math how many years ago it was. This is what happens when you don't take care of your enemies. I'll just say that. And this is one more example, how Israel stood with America. And this isn't a matter of revenge. It's justice. I think that this is justice served. You know, every morning I wake up and pray that I would do justice, love mercy, and walk humbly. But part of this job is to do justice. Certainly is. We've seen some other big international news break as of Thursday, and that is the

Starting point is 00:14:19 prisoner swap between U.S., other Western countries, and Russia. What do we know about this prisoner swap? And why now? Yeah, why now? So first of all, I'm, I'm, grateful that Evan, the reporter from the Wall Street Journal is coming back to his family. I'm very grateful for that. But again, I'm going back to this theme of a weak White House. They abducted him in March of 2023. Who was the commander of chief in March of 2023? Well, Joe Biden was supposedly, I would almost guarantee Putin doesn't do this if Donald Trump is the president. I just think that the consequences would have been very severe. So I'm grateful he's coming back. We have no idea what What's this going to cost us? And again, where's the leadership in the White House today,

Starting point is 00:15:03 getting out in front of this saying, this is what we did, this is why we did it? I'm not sure our president even knows that this is going on. And again, Kamala Harris has embraced all of his national security policy. She's the one that's given us 11 million people across the border illegally. She's the one that's helping fund people that are leading riots and vandalism as well to help getting them out of jail. So all sorts of things. Again, I go back to the theme of this discussion, it sounds like, is a weak White House and why Americans are scared for the safety of their own family. Even up here on Capitol Hill, I'm afraid I fear from my staff walking to and from Capitol

Starting point is 00:15:42 Hill to their homes. Very few weeks passed by that there's not a carjacking, a violent attack as well. You know, this all starts with you have to, just last week, I'm not sure you saw it, but this riot of people that went and vandalized and defaced some of our monuments. here. And we stood and while we watched it. We knew they were going to be here. They were saying 10,000 rioters, excuse me, protesters were going to be here. They have a history of vandalizing. Why didn't we have 10,000 National Guard here to protect our, everything from the union station to Capitol. Yeah. Some of my colleagues here at the Daily Signal have been asking that question,

Starting point is 00:16:20 because they were out there covering that protest and saying, okay, where is the law enforcement? Where is that presence stopping this defacing? And they didn't feel safe. guarantee it. That's right. That's right. Well, I do want to ask one follow-up question on this prisoner swap situation. Do you think that this is a signal from Russia that they might be open to a more amicable relationship with the United States? Well, that's a great question. I think that, you know, they're trying to read the tea leaves right now. I do have confidence that when President Trump is reelected that within weeks, he says days, but I'll give him a week or three to end this war in Ukraine. So I think that Ukraine is scrambling right now.

Starting point is 00:17:01 I know if you saw it, but Secretary Pompeo read a great op-ed in the Wall Street Journal about how to handle Ukraine right now. What he would probably do if it would all with the Trump administration on some type of a peace through strength type of foundation as well. So it may be a signal, but Putin's a wily guy. He doesn't respect Joe Biden or Kamala Harris. I think that's the bottom line. So we're negotiating from a point of weakness rather than a point of power.

Starting point is 00:17:26 And I think this is why we see chaos throughout the world. This is why we have at least three wars going on right now, that people are not afraid that kidnap our American citizens, that nothing will happen. We still have at least eight American citizens that are held hostage by Hamas as well. When's the last time President Biden spoke that? I heard him say finally one time in the past six months to speak to that. It's been over 300 days.

Starting point is 00:17:51 Is that possible since October the 7th? Wow. We are three months out from an 11th. election and Senator Mitch McConnell has announced that he is going to step down as the Republican leader in the Senate. What are your expectations for a new leader, whoever that might be? Right. I think I'm an engineer in biochemistry by training. So I'm going to say, well, what's the problem? The biggest problem this nation faces is our long term, is our national debt. We're going to spend a trillion dollars on interest this year, a trillion dollars on interest this

Starting point is 00:18:24 year. We're going to take in five and spend seven trillion dollars. This is why we have inflation. This is why we don't have money left for roads and bridges or a strong military. So I want to know from the person I vote for, what are they going to do to fix the budget? Are they, do they, and it'll be painful. That's just it. The folks back home, so many people are dependent upon federal subsidies. What are they going to do to face that federal budget? I've got some ideas. President Trump is laying out a really good plan. You know, how to curb inflation, how to build this economy. part of balancing the budget is a strong economy, and that starts with slashing regulations, cutting taxes, cutting federal spending as well as part of that first steps of the recipe

Starting point is 00:19:05 to getting our budget under control. So that's what I think first and foremost. That's critical. It's interesting before the Republican National Convention, I pulled to my friends and family to say, hey, what are the issues you guys are thinking about most? And many of them brought up economic issues, specifically the national debt. And it's an issue that it is. it's a hard one, right? Because it comes with cost and it comes a little bit of pain of having to figure out, okay, how are we actually going to solve this issue? But that's critical. When it comes to that leadership, before I let you go here, are there things that you think need to change broadly? Are there reforms that should be made under a new Senate Republican leader within the Senate?

Starting point is 00:19:44 Well, I want a commitment to what we call regular order up here where we actually have an amendment process. So typically what happens is they, behind the scene, They put together a big, big bill with a lot of money they're going to spend and put it on the floor and say take it or leave it. And what I would like is the opportunity to amend that entire process. And even to back up and go through a formal budget process, and that's what I'm working on. By law, there is a formal budget process required. The president is supposed to submit a budget by early February. The Senate is supposed to do a budget about six weeks later.

Starting point is 00:20:20 And we've not done one up here, a meaningful budget in decades. So how do we put some teeth to force us to do that budget? I think by the teeth is taking away Senator's salaries, taking away White House salaries as well. Whatever it takes, we need to go back to a budget process. And I think what happens is when you put that entire, let's say the federal government is funded on 12 buckets. There's 12 buckets of money.

Starting point is 00:20:44 We bring those one at a time to the Senate floor. And I make you defend all these bridges of nowhere. If you knew that I'm going to call you out, if there's something on this, there's a bridge to know, in your hometown, Mr. Senator, Mrs. Senator, and this is going to cost $200 million. What's the purpose of this bridge to nowhere? So I think that that transparency and going through a process of being, so I'd like to go on the floor and say, I want to cut this bridge to nowhere out of this budget.

Starting point is 00:21:11 And that would force the person that's off, that wanted it to get up in front of America and say, this is why I think we should spend the money. To have to justify it. That makes sense. Here you go. All right. Well, Senator, thank you so much for your time today. we wish you all the best as you head home to Kansas to speak with your constituents during the month of August.

Starting point is 00:21:28 And we look forward to hopefully having you back on the show sometime in the fall. Glad to be with you. When we come back, it'll be football season and can't wait for my Kansas State Wildcats to take the field. And the chiefs are busy with summer things happening as well. So the fall is a great time in America. I can't wait for it. It certainly is. We also have an election.

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The Daily Signal - Sen. Marshall: Google Is 'Using Algorithms to Campaign Against’ Trump

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