The Daily Signal - The Daily Signal Presents "Problematic Women" - Leftist’s BIG Fears: Law and Order, Ballrooms, and JD Vance

Episode Date: October 26, 2025

Vice President JD Vance is “scarier in certain ways” than President Donald Trump, according to former White House press secretary Jen Psaki.     Vance is “young” and “ambitious,” Psaki said on the leftist political podcast “I've Had It,” adding that the vice president is “agile in the sense that he is a chameleon who makes himself into whatever he thinks the audience wants to hear from him.”     Psaki also took a swipe at first lady Usha Vance, indicating she might not be happy in her marriage.     “I always wonder what’s going on in the mind of his wife,” Psaki said. “Like, are you OK? Please blink four times. Come over here. We’ll save you.”    While in Israel with the first lady, Vance was asked about the comments and called them “disgraceful,” adding, “but of course, the second lady can speak for herself. I am very lucky to have a wonderful wife.”    Psaki’s comments on Vance are telling. The next presidential election is over three years away. It is no secret that Vance is thought to be a top contender for the Oval Office position, and so the talking heads on the left are already priming their base to despise him.     On this week’s edition of “Problematic Women,” we discuss the left’s fear not only of Vance, but the broader policies of the Trump administration.     Also on today’s show, there is no end in sight to the government shutdown, but Trump is staying busy with construction of the White House ballroom well underway. And the New York City mayoral election is around the corner, with crime and housing prices taking center stage. All this and more on this week’s show!   Keep Up With The Daily Signal   Sign up for our email newsletters:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.dailysignal.com/email⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠     Subscribe to our other shows:    The Tony Kinnett Cast: ⁠https://megaphone.link/THEDAILYSIGNAL2284199939⁠ The Signal Sitdown: ⁠https://megaphone.link/THEDAILYSIGNAL2026390376⁠   Problematic Women:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠https://megaphone.link/THEDAILYSIGNAL7765680741⁠   Victor Davis Hanson: ⁠https://megaphone.link/THEDAILYSIGNAL9809784327⁠     Follow The Daily Signal:    X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠https://x.com/intent/user?screen_name=DailySignal⁠ Instagram:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/thedailysignal/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Facebook:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/TheDailySignalNews/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Truth Social:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://truthsocial.com/@DailySignal⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  YouTube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/dailysignal?sub_confirmation=1⁠    Subscribe on your favorite podcast platform and never miss an episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We'd love to talk. Business. Hey, this is Virginia Allen, and I'm excited to share this episode of Problematic Women, one of the Daily Signal's other podcasts. Each episode, we navigate the biggest stories in politics and culture. And we have a lot of fun doing it, too. If you like what you hear today, make sure to subscribe to Problematic Women for weekly episodes. Welcome back to Problematic Women. Guys, we have so much to get through this week, so we're going to do this really quickly so you can get all the news from this week from us and our commentary.

But first off, we want to start with Jen Saki. She is just proof that mean girls don't end in high school and they extend into the White House, into the former White House, and she's making comments about J.D. Vanson-Ushah's marriage. It's crazy. We're going to break it all down and just the jealousy that she's exhibiting. Also this week, we're going to talk about one of the weirdest outrage cycles I've ever seen from the left in the way that they're reacting to Trump's new ballroom renovation with the East Wing. We have pictures of that. And also this week, we saw the New York mayoral race debate between Mamdani, Cuomo, and Sliwa. We also have some I'm Stats from New York. And New Yorkers, if you're watching, please just stay tuned for that because it's really staggering. All this and more today and Problematic Women.

Welcome back. I'm Alicia Kew. I'm Virginia Allen. And I'm Morgan. Guys, I'm ready back. It's so good to be back with all of you. Happy Thursday. I guess for us, but happy Saturday.

Yeah. All right. I just want to start off today with a video that really just took me aback watching it. I did not know what was going to come out of her mouth. But former White House Press Secretary Jen Socky. She went on MSNBC and she was talking about J.D. Vance, Ushah, and I'm going to stop explaining. Let's just roll the clip. I think the little mentoring candidate, J.D. Vance,

wants to be president more than anything else. I always wonder what's going on in the mind of his wife. Are you okay? Please blink four times. We'll come over here. We'll save you. And that he's willing to do anything to get there. And that your whole iteration you just outlined, I mean, he's scarier in certain ways. He's smarter. In some ways. And he's young. And ambitious. And ambitious. And agile in the sense that he is a chameleon who makes himself into whatever he thinks the audience wants to hear from him. Now, what's also true, though, is J.D. Vance is not, he's in some ways goodish on paper. If you like what he believes in, I don't. don't know. But I don't know that he can take the whole movement with him. No way. I don't think so

either. There's no Riz. It's got no Riz, right? And he's got, he just is a little odd. And so Trump's odd in a different way. So I'm skeptical of that. So yeah, he's got to, I mean, everything going on right now, and I think we have to be very clear-eyed about this, is about trying to manipulate the public around elections. Okay, I just love that she said Riz. We're going to talk about Gen Z slime later, but that's a, that's a classic one. Okay, before we keep going, when she said that, I was like, whoa, I need to look up what her definition of Riz would be. So I looked at a picture of her and her husband, and sorry, I know I called Jen Saki a mean

girl, but I'm about to be a mean girl for a second. Let's pull up the picture of her and her husband. Elise. I didn't know you were doing it. Valid, though, honestly. I mean, you know, to each their own, to each their own. To each their own, very much so. To each their own, they look happy together.

They do. They look very happy. They don't knock other people's marriages, though. Like, you can not like someone's politics. Like, I get it. Okay, you guys are liberal carins. Like, you don't like J.D. Vance, even though, like, he's probably going to win and run. Oh, you see J.D. Vance as a threat.

That's why they're going to be a future president. Exactly. And we actually have J.D. Bance's response, and he responded very well. I thought he was going to shoot some shots back. especially based on his like Twitter activity, but the way that he responded. It was pretty classic. Former White House Press Secretary, Jen Stock, you made some comments suggesting that your wife, the second lady, needed to be saved from you.

How do you feel about comments like that being made while you're here with the second lady? Oh, I think it's disgraceful, but of course the second lady can speak for herself. And I'm very lucky to have a wonderful wife. And I know, or at least I hope that my wife feels the same about me. But we are very lucky to have this journey. I should say I'm very lucky to go on this journey with a very loving wife. We're going to keep on serving the country together. And I'm honored to have Ushah by my side on this trip in particular, but always.

It's beautiful, classy response. And let's just set the record straight on who Ushavans is. She went to Cambridge. She went to Yale. She clerked at the Supreme Court for Chief Justice John Roberts. She is no pushover. And this is a woman who has actively chosen to stand in. by her husband and take a really public role.

The second lady kind of has an option. Many second ladies are not very much in the public eye, especially when they have kids. They really choose to be at home, raising family. Some of them even kind of continue in their career. And Usha has made a very clear and asserted effort that I'm going to support and stand with and be very present with my husband in that public eye,

which is fully her choice and I think it's awesome. I mean, they really are a power couple. Like knowing how they met, how they were both raised, and then how their family is leading to J.D. being vice president. I mean, they are a role model, I think, kind of marriage, family, couple, and it's beautiful. And I want to know, like, why are the leftists so jealous of her? Like, honestly, it's giving jealousy. Sorry, Jen Saki, that you're not the vice president's wife.

Just plain and simple. And especially if you look at any picture of Ushah and J.D. together, I just think that one iconic image during the inauguration where he's getting sworn in, and she's just looking up at him the whole time, smile, beaming, or just the videos of him at the inauguration or any public event with them and their kids. She has an impressive resume, but also being a very public-facing mother too, and just doing it with grace in class and not trying to get into the weeds of everything and just holding her head up high.

So impressive, and it just pales. Jen Saki pales in comparison to Usha Vance in terms of class facts. So I just thought that was something that we really should have talked. about today because it's like yeah we see a lot of stuff with like left wing violence but also just on very small levels too the jealousy and the hatred and vitriil they'll try to break down the right in so many ways but you just got to keep going yeah the class versus the class list well for the record my my one of my dreams for problematic women is that one day we will have ushavans sitting in one of these chairs and I can't have a conversation with her we're working on

I'm scared to respond we're watching please come on please we're not waiting but obviously the vance is They have been recently in Israel. That's where Vice President J. E. Evans made those comments from talking about furthering the ceasefire there, getting to the next stage. The administration is very busy despite the ongoing government shutdown. We were more than three weeks in to this government shutdown. Which is insane because I actually was looking this week. I was talking to my husband about it. Like, what are the longest government shutdowns and why?

And I just think it's really interesting because I don't feel like a lot of people know about what were the previous ones. So I wrote them down. 35-day shutdown was in 2018 due to President Trump is the longest that we've ever seen. And that was because of expanding the borders, talking about U.S.-Mexico, illegal immigration, which obviously was a very hot-button issue in President Trump's first term, now second term two. The second one was a 21-day shutdown in 95 during Bill Clinton's administration over a lot of spending cuts. And I believe that one had to do with abortion as well. and then a 16-day shutdown in 2023 during Obama's administration because of the Affordable Care Act.

Oh, in 2013, I think. Yes. Oh, 2013, sorry, in 2013 for the Affordable Care Act. Something I did find interesting is when I was scrolling through looking at previous government shutdowns, there were quite a few on the issues of Medicare and kind of like funding and spending with that. And then also abortion, which is really interesting. I feel like we've pivoted away from abortion as the hot button issue. recently and it's been really interesting because I always thought that was here to stay.

Like as a huge, huge issue. Yeah. You see Abigail Spanberger still talk about that as a way to attack Whencem Earl Sears in the Virginia gubernatorial debate, but that's just not something I'm seeing brought up on the federal level. Well, and I do, I will say, I think that that has been in some ways a disappointment for me personally with conservatives, that a lot of conservatives just aren't talking about it because they feel like it's a losing issue, so they're not bringing it up. but obviously the morals of it have not changed life from the moment of conception is a life and actually recent news on that this is a rabbit travel recent news on that friend just to be aware so it was earlier this year Colorado had an abortion clinic that would perform abortions up until the third trimester it closed but now the people that worked at that abortion clinic

they have opened a new clinic to do the exact same thing so it's just a reminder like this is still really. It's still an issue that's going on. And this current shutdown, obviously, I think the biggest thing that's being talked about is the Medicare issue with spending with that and talking about how the left wants to fund the illegal aliens to be able to have health care, which we saw a lot happening with ICE this week to making arrests in New York. But what do you guys think? How long do you think the shutdown is going to last? When do you think, whether it's the left or the right, maybe Trump steps in? When do you think the government will open again?

I personally think Trump is going to step in after the November elections. It just doesn't seem like great politics, even though so many people are furloughed, not getting paid. My roommate isn't getting a paycheck until this is over. So it's hurting people's lives, but I don't think any side wants to concede this close to an election. Well, and there has to be that political pressure. There has to be a reason, which really that translates to the American people have to start feeling it. So there's some talk in D.C. of, okay, maybe on. November 1st because that's when we start getting news on premiums for health insurance and

those could start going up for people. That's true. It's currently open enrollment season. It's open enrollment season. But there really does have to be a pain point felt because right now both Republicans and Democrats feel like it's to their advantage to keep it going. They both feel like they're winning the messaging war, which only one side can be winning. So maybe you all weigh in who's winning.

But at the same time, then we see all this activity out of the administration. and in some ways, I think so many of the American people are not really paying attention to the shutdown. One, because they don't care. But also, there's so much other news happening because of all of the activity of the Trump administration. Right. And that's what, like, Trump is still working. I think that, I think you're right, at least. I think that President Trump's going to step in. I think there's going to be some calls made to certain people who knows who. And I think certain people are going to have to concede. It may be the Republicans that have to concede on something. I don't think it's going to be the illegal immigrants being funded in Medicare. I don't think it's going to be that. I think there's going to be verbiage changes to get the bill passed so that the funding can continue in the government. And I think it's going to happen before Thanksgiving. I don't think. Really that early.

Before Thanksgiving. Okay. No, I guess that's before Thanksgiving. Yeah. I don't, anytime in November, but I think I don't see a way in which the government really pushes the no paychecks through the holiday season. Because I think there's, I mean, when you look at it, how many federal workers aren't getting paid. And of course there's back pay. So clearing that up to like, yes, all workers.

workers will be getting paid. But I mean, there's a lot of people who don't have, you know, an emergency fund or savings going into Thanksgiving, even Halloween. Some people like celebrate that really hugely the holiday. But it is the fall season. Christmas is coming up. I think that, you know, a lot of people and families are planning for the holidays. And if you're not getting a paycheck, that's something that is concerning. And so I don't think that the Trump administration will allow the shutdown to continue to go past Thanksgiving. That's my prediction. Who do you guys think is winning the messaging war on this shutdown? I think it's Republicans.

Yeah, I was in media-wise. The way that it's been, at least mainstream media, like just hearing like the Schumer shutdown and stuff like that. Eliteration doesn't help. It does not. I think Republicans are largely winning, but I will hold to the fact that the average American really doesn't care. They live in their life. I think they're aware of, you know, a lot of the big news on the world stage, what's going on. but, you know, federal workers within the Beltway being off work, they're like, you know, things are still functioning.

It's also kind of a weird issue. Like, yes, the government maybe shut down, but that doesn't mean that the Senate and the House aren't working. That doesn't mean that the White House isn't working. So I think you're right, Virginia. Like, the American people don't necessarily have a grasp on like, what does the government shut down really mean? Yeah. Well, that's totally okay. Like, it makes sense. I was talking to some people last night at a media mixer. And they were saying that they think that the Republicans are actually not winning on this message. Interesting. Because, again, we see a lot of both sides.

And it just makes a lot more sense what the Republicans are saying. The Democrats' arguments can really be broken down once you think about it for more than one or two seconds. However, the average American, average voter hears government shutdown and they think of Trump. And they're like, oh, he's the president. He has power over everything. Not knowing how the system is true. That's true. That's true.

Well, I mean, in that same vein and line that you were watching, like, okay, there is obviously press coverage of the shutdown. There's arguably even more press coverage of what's happening at the White House and renovations to the White House with Trump's big, beautiful ballroom. A beautiful ballroom. It looks great. The renderings, the 3D renderings, everyone's like, oh, this is an eyesore. I'm like, this kind of looks like what I would expect from the White House. Every time, ever since I was little, I drive down the street going into D.C. and you'd look and you'd see the White House.

It's this tiny thing of the distance. It's a very, very small building. People who haven't seen the White House or been there, it's pretty small. So for the most powerful world leader, in my opinion, I really do think this expansion is apt. And imagine all the world leaders that come to the White House and they have to go inside a dingy tent, like it's prom? Well, see, the argument that I have been making with this is it's twofold.

I think we need it for one because it is, like, okay, as people come to the White House from around the world, we want to be able to present this beautiful space to them. And then also there's a level of practicality because sometimes for White House events, they have to run out hotels across D.C. to host events. Which is crazy, honestly. We're doing that.

And it also creates more of a security hassle that costs taxpayers a ton of money. It's going to, I think, in the long run, be more affordable to American taxpayers to just be able to host those events. Oh, absolutely. At the White House. We're not paying for that.

Yeah. It's paying for it. Well, currently the largest room at the White House, house is the white room, I believe, which is on the side of the East Wing. I've been there for a couple of events. And even when the room is packed tight, no seating room, like all standing room when Trump's making an announcement or signing an executive order where they like invite people for those events, there's the East, there's the East room and then the white room. So the white room has a table. The East room is the standing room. But that whole wing is separated into

multiple different colored rooms to where it's not just one big open space. So, even if there is like a reception of 200 people, you are standing right next to each other. Like there's no room for gathering. There's really no room for breathing room at all. And to me, it's a no-brainer. Like, why doesn't the White House have a ballroom meeting space for events for anyone? Even like, I know there was a big hullabaloo about the Rose Garden being remodeled to have a large outdoor communal patio space.

And I'm like, it's beautiful. Like, it doesn't exist. I'm not surprised at all that Democrats are opposed to beautification. efforts though, but we actually have a clip of Trump talking about this this past week. He had a big presser on this and he invited senators to talk about this and I

just love this man, his obsession with classic architecture. I said if I do this again, I'm going to get a ballroom built and we're putting up our own money with the government just paying for nothing. You probably hear the beautiful sound of construction to the back. You hear that

sound? Oh, that's music to my ears. I love that sound. Other don't like it. I love it, Josh. I think when I hear that sound, it reminds me of money. In this case, it reminds me of lack of money because I'm paying for it. So it's the opposite. He was on a pretty good run that day, too. He was cracking jokes left and right. But yeah, he's not paying for it. He is paying for. Everyone else is not paying for it. Whoopi Goldberg is out on the view every single day saying that taxpayers are funding this. And I'm like, can someone just sue her already? Like fact check false. Yeah. Also,

The White House has been renovated multiple times before. Like, I don't know if you know this, but the current version of the White House with the West Wing and the East Wing were the Oval Offices, the Basketball Corps. None of that is original to the actual White House. And you have the receipts. And I do have the receipts. So Whoopi Goldberg, tune in. In 1902, Teddy Roosevelt built the West Wing. 1909, William Howard Taft added the first Oval Office during the West Wing expansion in 1903.

33, Franklin D. Roosevelt added a second floor to the West Wing and in 34 built, oh, he relocated the Oval Office to where it is now. So the Oval Office was not where it currently is. It was relocated and then completed the East Wing and built an indoor swimming pool in 34. In 48, Harry Truman began completely gutting and rebuilding the White House's interior, only preserving the exterior walls. So the entire interior of the White House has changed since 48, which is wild. Like, people probably don't know that. 1970, Nixon converted FDR's pool into the press briefing room. So currently the press briefing room was an old pool.

Yeah, the press pool. I think we need to bring a pool back. Yeah, that would be fun. A presidential pool, yeah. A rooftop presidential pool. Oh, that would be cool. I didn't know that's why they called the press pool, though. Yeah, it's fun.

Because the press room used to be a. cool. And then in 73 is when the bowling alley, the famous White House bowling alley was added. And then in 2009, President Obama upgraded the tennis court into a full basketball court. So President Trump adding on a ballroom to the East Wing, which people are like he's knocking down the entire East Wing. Nope, it is just the exterior of the East Wing so that it can be built onto it. I think is a great addition. I just want to say, too, all the leftists getting so upset about it. this saying they're tearing down your house even Gavin Newsom and Hillary Clinton all just

shouting and screaming about this you are not allowed to act like that when your side was the one tearing down statues in 2020 when it's your side saying it's okay to graffiti union station with globalizing defada because that's how people feel I'm sorry if we want a ballroom so we actually look like a main player on the world stage when we host people and I'm sorry that you're opposed to beautification but you do not get to scream and cry and kick about this because you have a really bad track record. And we even saw that with the No Kings protests, all of them dressing up like founding fathers and saying, this isn't what George Washington would have wanted.

It's like you don't get to act like you're patriotic all of a sudden. Let me go to Chicago. Let me go to San Francisco. Let me go to L.A. Let me take a look at the cities that these governors and these house members and people are supposed to be protecting their constituents and their spaces. And I really want to go to every single, honestly, left-wing city. and be like, oh, no, these are our actual houses.

Like, this is the people's house 100%. But these are our actual cities and communities and houses. I know, Elise, you tweeted about this, which is crazy. We should pop that up. But it's like they're decaying, yet they're saying something about D.C. where Trump's actually doing something to expand the city and even with the National Guard coming in recently and keeping our city safer. Why don't we do that across all of America for all of our citizens?

Yeah, well, and that's certainly a topic of conversation in. the big apple in New York City. So we have a lot of elections coming up. It's a big time for as a Virginia resident. I'm watching what's happening in the state of Virginia. But I think all eyes are on New York City because this mayoral race, we had the final debate on Wednesday night. And we saw, it was a wild time. We got to hear from the three leading candidates.

So we have Democrat socialists or I'm on Donnie. Of course, Andrew Cuomo, the classic. Independent. Yeah. I mean, he's a Democrat guys. He's just in, yeah. I mean, he's running as independent. To quote Curtis Slewa, slapping fannies and killing grannies.

And there we go. Great line. Oh my gosh. And too close. And then Curtis Slewa. So Slewa is the Republican and is very, very pro-pleased, very pro-security. And I would say those were two of the, these are two of the big conversations. For sure, on Wednesday night, but just in the election in general, is one is crime, security across the city of New York, obviously for residents, but also it is such a tourist hub for the entire world.

It has to be safe. And then housing. This is something that everyone knows it's insanely expensive to live in New York City. And Zveramamani has come in and he's promised all these rent freezes and all these things. So two of the big topics of conversation. And we saw some really spicy moments. bringing this debate on Wednesday night. So let's go ahead.

I want to take a look at what was said specifically around this issue of crime in New York. Once again, the architect of raised the age, Governor Cuomo, the apprentice to him, Johan. It's personal for me. My oldest son, Anthony, last October, was the victim of a vicious gang assault

that could have killed him. And what happened to these juveniles cut free because they went to family court, not criminal court. So how can both of you look at me? I almost lost my oldest son to gang violence, and the perpetrators went to family court and got a little pat on the wrist and was sent home to do it again and again. No, we need to start charging juveniles who commit violent crime in criminal court, and I'll appoint criminal court judges who follow the law and don't just release them because of no cash bail. So this is actually an issue that's playing out not only in New York City but here in Washington, D.C.

And cities really across America, because this actually is a strategy for gangs, that they recruit young teens to carry out the most violent crimes for them because they tell these teens, hey, you're not going to go to jail. You're only going to get a slap on the risk. And so it's incentivizing and it's essentially allowing young people to become even more so prey to violent criminals. And so this is huge for New York City and we'll play a huge part. I mean, you look at

the crime stats out of New York City. Again, a city that really represents all of America, when people come to the United States. New York City, yeah. They go to New York City. So, so far in 2025, there have been 261 murders in New York

City. And that's a little bit down. 2024. We had 309. So hopefully we stay under that number, and it falls rapes 1,626 so far in 2025. Robberies over 1,200 robberies. And these are recorded. These are recorded.

This is like the official New York City Police Department. I love it. So there's a problem. A big crime problem. And you have someone like Zora-Mondani who's talking about, hey, actually we just need more essentially social workers to come in and deal with mental health, compassion. Or him saying that 911 has to really deliberate if they're actually going to show up when they're called. Yeah.

That was crazy. It's insane. And it's like, okay, I get the mental health crisis. Yes, that's real. And let's start by backing our police officers, hiring more officers, and ensuring one of the other things that was that was stateed, that Slewa stated, was, you know, you can't have an effective crime force when you have police officers that feel disrespected, that are not supported, that are paid low. wages. It's like, let's start there. Well, it's a dangerous job. They're going into a lot of these parts of town that aren't really

safe for a single police officer to be going into a loan. So if they need backup, they can't go into these violent situations alone and, you know, hopefully just be able to destable or de-escalate the situation. But what I think is really scary is when you're looking at a city like New York and you have

someone like Zoron who is running on the ticket of defunding the police and going from the empathy and the compassion side of things, that's not actually going to work for decreasing crime, it's only going to increase the crime. You actually need law and order. And like you said, you need for these police officers to feel safe and be able to have their resources so they can enforce the law and do their jobs.

And a lot of these kids, like if they're going to continue to get off scot-free, why not just continue to doing their thievery and continue committing the crimes? It's important to note that Zoran Mamdani has said recently, I think it was in the last debate, that he actually does support the police. And also he said recently... He said recently, I think it was in that debate this past week, that he does support the Jewish community and all this. But all you have to do is look at his track record in the past.

And not only that, because I do know people can change, but you have to look at who his voter base is. Because if we're learning anything from the radical left base that's pressuring Democrats on the Hill right now, it's that they're going to listen to the loudest and most annoying and most violent voices in their party. So sure, if he's going to officially take this pro-police stance, I don't buy it because your base is going to pressure you into not really acting on those promises. And I just, I don't think it's real. Well, and the other big issue here, as I mentioned, is that of the real estate market in New York City.

And I think Zaramam Dani, I mean, he is, you got to hand it to him. He's very charismatic. His messaging game has been fire. Like, conservatives, pay attention because he has just owned this race, came out really as a dark course because he's so good at messaging. He has this really presence about him. He's a great smile, all these things. And he's very well crafted. And he's promised a lot of candy, like freezing rent, which sounds great.

Oh, yeah, I want that. Or, you know, these grocery stores that are government run and prices are set. Sounds like communism to me. It is communist. It's straight up communism. I think we're going to see the start of a political movement against the gentrocracy. I don't know what that. I don't know how to say the word.

but just the young versus the old and people are really going to look at the issues as much or they're just going to weigh age and experience equally to just their platform because there's videos and clips of Andrew Cuomo wagging his finger looking like has a lot of crow's feet and like lions on his face, old white guy wagging his finger and Zeranamani's just staring straight, smiling.

We may think that's a little creepy on the right because it's like look at the person talking to you. It's the Obama charisma. A lot of people see the Obama charisma. He's young. He has fresh eyes. ideas. They don't like what's happening in New York City. So they think, hey, maybe he's the answer. It's the Trump effect, but it's going to ruin them. Unfortunately, unfortunately, the young people on

the left, I mean, obviously you see the young people that are gravitating towards conservatism. They like what President Trump says things that Charlie Kirk was saying, really adopting the conservative right, right? And then on the left, you see these people, like when you really boil it down economically, they can't afford their houses, they can't afford groceries, they're going out in the streets that are violent. And so then when they see a candidate like Mamdani that is saying something so radically different. They're like, what do we have to lose? We can't buy a house. We have to be, we're stuck renting. Like, I can't even finish my college degree. I am dying in student loan debt or credit card debt. Like, what do I have to lose? Then try this socialist, communist,

utopia idea that's being presented to me on a silver platter. Because I will say, you know, when you look at big government, it's not like government has really been helping young people. A lot of boomers look down on us and our generation and they're like, well, why aren't you buying a house? We did it when we were your age. It's like, we'll see how much we're making compared to how much you were making compared to the cost of living needed to purchase a house. It has not kept up. It has not kept up with the history.

And I think that's something that we really need to recognize with young people is it's not that these young people. I think, I don't think they're stupid. I think they're just ill-informed and they're being presented a new idea that's different that they're willing to try, but not recognizing that the trying to do that idea will actually. actually destroy the country. Also, one more point on this, the young people, it's not just, oh, these young people want something new, but it's also a lot of young people in New York City. Most of them are transplants.

They're not native. They don't really have stake in the history of New York City. And I think that's what Cuomo and absolutely Curtis Sliwa represent. They're like, this is my town. This is my city. I mean, Curtis Slewa was a guardian angel crime fighter in the subway in the 70s. But Zeron Mamdani, he more closely resonates with the transplants that I've moved. there for work or to pursue their art or something like that.

So true. And that's why he's the artsy, pro immigrant, pro. But there was appeal to young people as well from Sliwa. We have a pretty funny clip as we wrap up this statement as Sliwa uses a little bit of language from the kids, if you will. Oh, God. If there is a ranked choice election,

how would you vote? Mr. Mammani. If there was a rank choice election? In this, you'd have to rank these. Myself number one and Curtis number two. Mr. Sliwa. Oh, please don't be glazing me here. Did he just say, don't be glazing me?

Someone was tweeting from his account during the debate, oh, now Cuomo's glazing me too. Mom, Donnie, stop glazing me. And I'm like, oh, yeah. I had to look up what that meant. I didn't know. It means, like, excessive or, like, over-the-top compliments that are essentially seen as insincere.

So, on the top. I can't keep up for all the genzy. slang. Well, there's a lot. Have you guys, have you, have you, have you guys heard of 6-7? And then there's 4-1. That's a new one. I don't understand it. I can't get what the program. We're not supposed to understand it, Morgan. We're too old to understand. I'm afraid my younger cousins are going to find this podcast and watch this segment and show it to me at Thanksgiving and be like, at least you're old. You're chopped, your unc. I still know those slings. Do you guys know those ones? Chopped? Chopped an unc. Is chopped like?

like you're fired? You're ugly. Oh, that's mean. You're ugly and Unk means you're old. Yeah. Onk means you're old. If you're chunk, you're both. Oh gosh.

Well, 6-7 and 4-1 mean nothing apparently. Literally nothing. They literally mean nothing. It's just fun to do. I guess in preparation for Thanksgiving listeners, if you hear that, you're informed now. We'll use the word Riz at your dining table. Are you, our slang, because we're older Genzi. It used to be, I'm a millennial.

but like spiritually you can be gen C's at times see okay Gen Zers always do this to me they're like no you can be Gen Z I'm like no millennials want to be Millennials we don't want to be Gen Z I respect that I respect thank you I'm comfortable were you guys with like the this this posing yeah no this was a Gen Z pose I had a friend who made a video on I think it was called oh it was it was like mine no it was like wine it was something else oh it was called dub smash do you guys remember? Oh. Oh, do I remember? I love No, Dobsmash. He made one, and he swore he was straight, and I'm like, honey, after that video, I'm not so sure. He goes, ladies, you got to break peace to be

fierce. And to this day, I think about it. It's 10 years later. I don't know what he's doing, but wish him well. It's called Fierce, by the way. Let's bring that back. I like that. I like that. Thumbail. Bring it back. Did you tell him you look snatched while he was doing this? Snash is a good one. swag. Swag was a word. I still use swag. Swag's a good word. I had a Justin Bieber jersey from his concert in 2012 that said swag number 12.

That's fantastic. That's iconic. No cap. Speaking of Gen Z, George Santos is kind of like a king to a queen to Gen Zers on both the left and the right. And his sentence got commuted by President Trump in the past year. So he's back. He's back on cameo. And I was like to my sister, please, can I get a George Santos cameo for my birthday?

My birthday's in a couple weeks. At least, why do you want that? Because it's kind of iconic. Like, they're funny. Like, have you seen cameos and how many people you can, like, buy them from? Just like a Santos one. Like, no, because it's so funny. I just think it would be funny.

And he just says the darndest things because you give them a prompt. And then they have to say it. He has to say what you put in there. Wow. Otherwise they don't get paid for that. Exactly. So he does. He takes his creative liberty.

We can actually throw in a clip of that, but it's so funny the way that he talks. And he's just really become an icon. And I know that there are people on the left too who are glad that he got out. Because in today's political climate, the grand scheme of things, what he did with like all the... It really matter. Like, there's people getting killed politically. So I'm not saying it was okay. But I'm also saying, like, people are not mad at him because it's nothing compared to what's going on today.

And he's with the gens ears. He is. He is. He's a Gensier's love George. I mean, I think it's just comedic. Like, you know, I don't necessarily like love his politics or love everything that he says or does. Like, absolutely not. But it's very comedic and he's entertaining and we kind of need that nowadays.

A little bit of good entertainment. Speaking of entertainment, Slina Gomez is out with a new song. It's called In the Dark. To be honest, I think it's too auto-tuned. I was not a real. To listen to it. I took a quick listen. I think it's exciting, though, that at least she's coming out with new music.

Absolutely. I love her. I love her. She just got married. Obviously, her husband, Benny Blanco, is a huge producer, which I don't know if you guys knew it, but he came out with like some of like the OG, like 2010, 2013 songs, like Kesha songs. I heard that a bunch of the songs that he produced are in this one specific beats per minute. He was like 120 because he said, and I don't know if this is true, he's just making it up because it's funny. He said it's because he didn't know how to change the tempo on his software. So all these like club classics and like 2010's bank. or if you listen to them, they're all the same beep. That's hilarious. Because I think it was pretty early on his producing career that all these songs were popping off. But I will say I'm excited to hear new things because I do think Selena is very slept on. I hope maybe she comes out with a new album in the future because her OG ones are so good. So good. And I'm so excited to see her start her family too.

I know. That's something that she's mentioned before. And there's just been this new movement I've seen with Gen Z, Millennials. celebrities starting their families. It's so awesome to see them do that because we've grown up with them. And the trend is that they are, it's not a trend, it's like a conscious choice. Yeah. Common

sense, to not show their baby's faces to the paparazzi to the world. It's so important. And the reason that they're doing that, it's not just oh, this is like some frivolous thing that we're doing. It's for their safety. A hundred percent for their safety. They are public figures. They are always going to have a bit of a target

on their back. If they do something wrong, if they step out of line. So it's just for their safety and also just creeps on the internet. We learned so much about that. So I think it's really awesome. And you mentioned a few examples that we were talking about. I mean, I think internet safety and celebrity safety of these children is really important,

especially in the day and age that we live right now. And the story that really piqued my interest was when Millie Bobby Brown got married, obviously there was controversy around her getting married just so young. And then she now has a child. And she is shielding their kid from the limelight. And paparazzi were trying to get a photo of her. her husband while they were pushing their baby in a bassinet and she like quickly had to like cover the bassinet. And I was like, it's really sad that like celebrities have to do that to shield their

children from that. But I also respect it so much. And I actually looked up like how many big celebrities shield their children from the limelight. And there's so many, including Blake lively, her children were actually seen in a movie, but they were wearing masks in the movie. So I thought that was funny. Married to Ryan Reynolds, obviously. Joe Jonas, Milakunis and Ashton Kutcher. they've been very vocal about keeping their children out of the limelight and they actually stay off social media themselves to also help protect their children. Eva Mendez and Ryan Gosling,

they stated that they won't ever post pictures of their children until they're old enough to give consent and when they understand what it's like to be in the media. And recently, Riley Gaines just had her baby along with Brett Cooper. And I don't know if you guys have noticed, but Riley actually spoke out saying that she's not really ready to show Margo's face and like they're just being very selective of what they share with the audience, which I think is very smart.

Same with Brett Cooper. She's been very selective of what she's shared about her journey is through motherhood so far. And I honestly think that we are going to start seeing this a lot more. I think we've seen it a lot with even pregnancy announcements and mother announcements of when women are giving birth. It's just like it's a lot more sacred and private. And even Erica and Charlie Kirk, you know, like both of their children, their full names and their faces have never been seen in the public eye.

And I think that's something that we're going to see a rise in. And I honestly hope that American people as a whole kind of take notice of that that celebrities are doing. Because if they're shielding their children from the internet and not giving their children cell phones and not giving them iPads, like maybe they're on to something because I do feel like that is the difference between celebrity culture and American people. As you see the iPad kids, you see people posting their children on the internet all the time. But then on the flip side, a lot of celebrities aren't actually doing that. Yeah, so true. So it's interesting. Well, speaking of celebrities and limelight and using platforms and politics,

so our question in the week last week was, should celebrities ever use their platforms to talk politics, to be political? So we got a lot of no, no, no, no, no, no. But Lindsay Wellfly said, sure, but celebs don't live in the real people world. So politics, by and large, don't impact them. So true. The Julie Baby said no They're performers, not journalists,

L.O.L. And then moved to southern Utah said only if they're Republicans. I'm pleased you're honest about how you feel. But question of the week for this week. We actually didn't talk about one. We need to come up with one on the fly. I think we asked one at the top of the show

and I totally forget what it was. Do you remember? It was good. When do you think the government will be reopened? Yes, when do you think the government's going to reopen? We want your thoughts. Place your bets. Actually, don't do that's legal.

Actually, do you care about the government shutdown? Is it affecting you? Do you think it's going to reopen? When will it reopen? I'm tired. I want the news cycle to move on with the next thing. Hopefully not a bad thing. Oh, it's exciting.

Something positive. More ballrooms. The West Wing will become the pool. No, literally. Lots in store. Wow, this was fun, y'all. Yeah. I'm so happy to be back with you guys.

We will see you all right back here next week.