The Daily Signal - The Merits of Joe Kent’s Resignation, the Democrats’ Anti-Israel Shift, and America’s Blue-State Decline | Victor Davis Hanson
Episode Date: March 19, 2026Jack Fowler and Victor Davis Hanson discuss Joe Kent’s recent resignation over opposition to military action against Iran. Hanson argues Iran’s long record of attacks and proxy warfare makes stopp...ing now dangerous. Hanson reacts to an Al Jazeera column claiming the U.S.-Israel strategy is systematically degrading Iran’s key assets, suggesting Gulf states back the campaign out of fear Iran will hit their economies. He then examines an NBC News poll showing Israel’s standing has fallen sharply among Democrats and warns Jewish national candidates face a hostile party climate. Hanson also links corporate flight from blue states to high taxes and governance failures, criticizes Canada’s policies, and argues weak assimilation and DEI incentives fuel anti-Americanism and criminal impunity among some immigrants and activists. 👉Watch “The Tony Kinnett Cast” NOW! LIVE weekdays at The Daily Signal and wherever you get podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjMHBev3NsoV3kHckydY58R7TaYsizl45v 👉America is worth preserving. Do your part and act now by going to https://www.heritage.org/beautiful 👉Claim your liberty offer of up to $5,000 in free metals with allegiance gold by going to https://www.ProtectWithVictor.com 👉Don’t miss out on Victor’s latest editions of “Victor Davis Hanson: In a Few Words” by subscribing to The Daily Signal today. You’ll be notified every time a new piece of content drops: https://www.youtube.com/dailysignal?sub_confirmation=1 👉 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2iOoN0xoOoSNvDFlpLLYGY?si=5a9f369acc874c6e 👉 Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/victor-davis-hanson-in-his-own-words/id1566731706 👉 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@victordavishanson7273?sub_confirmation=1 👉 Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/VictorDavisHansonInHisOwnWords?e9s=src_v1_sa%2Csrc_v1_sa_o 👉 Victor’s website: https://victorhanson.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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We are recording on Tuesday, March 17th, which is St. Patrick's Day.
This episode, though, is up on Thursday, March 19th.
Victor, that's St. Joseph's Day later on in the show.
We don't want to get too religious or front.
I'll tell you.
We had a very controversial conversation about the spate of what Joe Biden would call ultra-maga converts to Catholicism.
So I think we should leave that topic alone.
We'll leave it along.
I do have to
apologize for something.
But we'll do that at the end.
Nobody's here to listen to me.
My wife is a Catholic and my grandmother
was
she was supposedly Swedish,
but she was outed
my grandfather who was Swedish
as an Irish Catholic
and my grandfather married her,
my Swedish grandfather.
You know what they did to him?
They kicked him out of the Kingsburg.
That's a Swedish town
we've referenced before.
They kicked him out
of the Kingsburg Masonic Lodge in 19, I think it was 1913 or 14.
Well, back then, I think it still may be applicable now, but you are not supposed to be
a Catholic and a Mason, and it may have been excommunicable or anathema at one time.
He went to World War I when he was 20 some six, and he got his lungs.
this is kind of germane to me.
The bottom half of his lungs on both sides of bottom loads were destroyed by phosphine and mustard gas.
And he was a lifelong, he was a wonderful man.
And I said to him once, there's a beautiful Lutheran church in Kingsburg.
It's just stunning.
And his father and others helped fund it.
The father came, he was impregnated in Sweden and delivered in Chicago on the way to Kingsburg.
So anyway, getting off the topic, but very quickly, he said to me, I said, how come, because his wife, my grandmother, died before I was born.
Cancer, of course, in my family.
But in any case, I asked him once, I was 15 when he died, but I was kind of an obnoxious wannabe, no at all.
So I said, well, was your, wasn't grandma a Catholic?
Yeah, she was.
She was a Catholic.
And let me tell you something about the Catholics.
You said, I had my favorite horse.
And three nuns were driving to the Catholic Church.
And the horse was just minding his own business.
Dirt road, out in the middle of the road.
Yeah, obey it.
And they hit him.
And I walked in and I said,
said, oh my God, we take him to the vet.
No, we got to get to church.
No, we get the mass.
This is us.
And so they left my horse dead on the side of the road and wounded.
And then they went to the mass.
And I said, Grandpa, Frank, you've told me that story like 25 times.
They had to get to mass.
They had to get to mass.
He made his living breaking horses, breaker of horses like Hector and the,
He was Hector and the Iliad, Hector, breaker of horses.
Was he in the trenches?
He was in the 91st Evergreen or Pine Tree Division.
I have his helmet in there.
It's got, still got his, I have his helmet and his gas mask.
And my brother, my twin brother, has his 30-40 crag training gun.
He was a teamster because he would break horses.
and he was a fabulous horsebreaker and teamster.
That's how he made his living.
And he went over and African-American troops were logistical.
They weren't allowed, you know, they're segregated.
And he trained them.
And he had a very high regard for African-American rural farmers
because he said they were very good teamsters.
I remember he said that to me.
And then all of a sudden the mousse Argonne,
on offensive and they drafted everybody.
I don't mean drafted, but they transferred everybody
in the logistical core.
And he went and he had a Lewis machine gun,
I guess, or the American version of it.
And he was in the offensive and I talked to him
when I was a kid.
My father said, go talk to your grandfather.
He had it rougher than I did.
My dad flew, you know, 40 missions on a B-29, pretty rough.
And he said, I got so tired of shooting 70-year-old Germans and 15-year-old Germans.
They were all running.
That was the spring offensive.
And he said, we just chased them, and we chased them, and we chased them.
And then he got ahead of his unit, and they had a counterattack, and he and four or five people were trapped.
And they were gassed, and they found some type of cow, or they were starving, they ate it, and it had gas in it.
and they swallowed it and it vomited and the gas destroyed their esophagus and part of their trachean lungs.
Oh my gosh.
And he spent, the war was over November 11th and he spent an entire year in a Brussels hospital.
And he loved the Belgian people.
And he loved, I don't know how he knew, but he knew German.
Or at least he was a translator of Swedish and German.
He did two languages.
I don't know how he did that.
He loved the Germans and he loved the prisoners.
After he got out of the hospital, post-war, they had people they were still repatriating,
and he was assigned to, I don't know, talk to them or something.
And he said he loved the Belgian, but not the French.
So I think we were fighting the wrong people.
He was a wonderful guy.
I don't know how he made a living.
He was disabled his whole life.
It gives me inspiration if I can get through this lung thing and lost half my lung.
I think myself, well, your grandfather, you saw him break a stallion when he was 76 years old with two half lungs and jump on it, bear back, and ride.
I met Slim Pickens.
I met Slim Pickens there at his house, I mean, his little 40 acres.
He was a rodeo clown when he was young.
He was Swedish, too.
Oh, yeah.
You mentioned that.
Yeah.
My grandfather really liked him.
Yeah, because we won't talk about...
That wasn't his real name.
I'll remember his real...
People in Kingsburg, if they're listening, they'll know his real name.
And he moved out of Kingsburg and then came back for a while.
Kingsburg had a lot of very famous people, slim pickens, but also Rayfer Johnson.
Oh, the Olympian.
The Olympian and his brother, Jim Johnson, the 49er.
They were both Kingsburg High School.
Well, there's a lot of very talented people.
in the San Joaquin Valley.
Trust me.
Even in, just in Selma alone.
Brother Antoninus, the Catholic monk, famous William Everson.
He came out here and my grandfather said that he used to hire William Everson.
He was very tall and he was a very good peach tree thinner.
With a stick when he was a young man.
I met him.
He was a professor at UC Santa Cruz and I went up to him and I said, did you remember Reese Davis?
He hired you, my grandfather.
He was very famous then.
He said, he's a very honest man.
I hope you're as honest as he is.
So not all farmers are honest, but he paid me every cent he owed me,
and he gave me a bonus of a full tank of gas.
Okay, once more.
Viva grandpa.
And I hope brother didn't hit any horses as he was going to mass.
All right, Victor, we're going to talk about Joe Kent.
We've got to get back to the real world and shut Victor up.
Yeah, yeah.
No, look, this is lovely.
We're going to talk about Joe Kent, the Trump administration official who just quit.
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Some polling.
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So, Victor, here's, um, there's the news. I put the down.
darn thing. I can't say damn. That's what you say on other podcasts. Let's not get into
these feuds that are going on among our friends and the rights. They're using a vocabulary
that should be reserved for the opposition. Yeah. Locker room hate is spilling out in
broad daylight. Here's counterterrorism official Joe Kent previously argued. He's a
to quit. He stepped down. Previously argued Iran was a threat to the USA. So he resigned from his
national security post over opposition to military action against Iran follows earlier public
statements in which he warned about threats posed by the country and supported striking its
ballistic missile and nuclear capabilities. In announcing his resignation, Kent said Iran
imposed no imminent threat to our nation and said the war was started, quote, due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby.
I do admire him. He was a Green Beret, combat veteran. He worked for Tulsi Gabbard. So I don't know what her attitude, because she has made it very clear she doesn't believe in forever wars. This is not a forever war, but I don't understand imminent threat. So what I would ask, with all due respect,
to Joe Kent, is would you have supported a, did you support the Soleimani assassination?
And was that an imminent threat?
I think it was, but there was no precluding, they just saw him there and they knew that he had blood on his hands when?
Well, what, almost a decade earlier, more than a decade when he was responsible for the shape-charged shipments.
He came up with the idea, I think, that killed,
They say 600 Americans, people in the military will tell you 2,000 and more wounded.
Should we have hit them then?
Should we hit them when they organized the Tanzania?
Clinton didn't go after Iran.
Tanzania and Kenya.
How about, I don't know, Cobar Towers?
Those people were organized and funded probably by Iran.
How about the embassy in Beirut, the 241 people in the barracks?
So they've done this.
It's not that, I don't know what imminent.
They've just been doing it and doing it and doing it.
And they'll continue to do it.
And at some point, every president said,
they're not going to get a bomb on my watch.
And they get more missiles and get closer to the bomb.
And finally, one president said, you know, I'm done with them.
I will negotiate with them, but they won't want to negotiate.
So all he said was, just don't use the missiles,
don't build the missiles, and don't get a bomb,
and just live peacefully.
just be like Dubai or the UAA, you know, or Kuwait.
They have militaries to protect themselves,
but they're not trying to be aggressive and take over the Middle East with an ideology.
And they said, nope, not going to do it.
And so Trump said, okay.
And we're in, I don't know, what, 16 days, 17 days.
We've tragically lost 14 people, 13?
13 years.
And I understand we're spending a couple of billion dollars a day.
But in the long history of warfare, if Trump is able to, as I said earlier, there's three outcomes.
There's a Venezuela solution.
A strong person comes in and works with us and gets rid of the theocracy and may or may not transition.
And then there's the popular uprising, the most desirable, where you so waste their assets.
And now we're doing tactical strikes on individual Republican Guard checkpoint.
and things. We just kill Laronjani. His daughter, remember, was a professor at Emory University.
They hate us so much, and we think they were so decadent that they send their children to be educated and then hope they can be professors at our schools.
And the third is that, it might as well talk about that in a larger context. The third is that they do so much damage that they feel that they have new.
to Iran for a decade, that is not a very enviable choice, in my opinion.
We're getting very close, I think, to pushing them over the ledge and letting, we're just
wiping out, Israel is wiping out the command and control, and we are pretty much destroying
their assemblies, factories, naval, their military assets.
And at some point, I think the people will take it in their own hands.
especially if something simultaneously happens in Cuba.
So I think would be very dangerous to stop now, is what I'm suggesting.
Well, would it, and likewise, Victor, maybe not likewise,
would it have been dangerous not to do anything at all?
I still cannot get my arms around the thought that sooner or later,
and if it's either, that's true.
It will be sooner or will be later, but it will be.
They would have done something catastrophic to the U.S.
They reached their apex of influence and power during the Biden years.
They basically ran the Red Sea.
They took their transport planes and they supplied the Houthis with thousands of missiles and drones.
And the Houthis under Biden controlled the Red Sea.
He didn't do anything.
They attacked, I don't know what the, I hear 300, they attacked two to 300 American installations in Syria and Iraq, the Iranians through their proxies.
We didn't even do anything.
And everybody's put their finger in the wind and said, they are the strong people and the Americans will be out soon.
Let's not get near the Americans.
The Abraham's Accords stopped.
And then Hezbollah bragged that they had 200,000, I don't know if that was true, missiles.
and rockets.
And they were going to have a ring of fire.
They said it every week, we're going to have a ring of fire.
We're going to blast them on the north, and the Houthis will come across the desert, and then Hamas.
And they thought they had three Iranian proxies, plus these people in Syria and Iraq.
And everybody in the Arab world was terrified.
And Joe Biden said, please, please, please get back in the Iran deal.
We have to do.
No, we're not going to do it.
Okay, well, if you don't want to get back in the Iran deal, then we're going to lift all the sanctions.
How is that?
And let you make another $100 billion on oil.
That's what we're going to do to you, and that's what he did.
And that was their highest point of influence.
And at that time, 43, 44, 45 year history.
And they had Chinese and Russian.
China was knee-deep in Iran.
Russia was running Syria.
and North Korea was supplying all of the nuclear technology via China.
And there was no stopping it.
And so we knew what it was going to be.
And Trump came in and he, the first, he tried the 10 days,
they was raised at the 10-day strikes.
He did the 24-hour stuff when he thought he had nuclearized him.
He thought he sent him a signal and don't continue.
We set you back on your nuclear.
And what did they do?
They shifted their attention to building.
another thousand missile, ballistic missiles.
Well, when the, even the Biden administration says don't, don't has to have a follow-up.
I don't know what Kent means when he's, they tried to kill Trump.
They tried to kill Pompeo.
They put a, they put a hit out on John Bolton.
They tried to kill the Saudi ambassador in Washington, D.C.
This is aside from what they're doing, they just killed 30,000 people.
They butchered them, and we were told that there was genocide and all this going on in Gaza was a war zone.
This wasn't a war zone.
They just took and went in and slaughtered their own people.
So there was a lot of provocations.
And I don't see why a person joins an administration when you know what the administration is going to do.
do because the internet, as we're reminded now, Jack, is a wash with clips of Donald Trump
going back to, have you seen these things?
I have for a long.
Yeah, yeah.
We've got to take out Iraq.
Right at 1980, he should have taken out Iran after the hostages.
You've got to take Kargai.
He's been saying it for years.
And he was never a MAGA isolationist.
He never said that.
He said, forever wars that were fought stupidly.
He was a Jacksonian from the get-go.
No better friend, no worse enemy.
Don't tread on me.
We don't want to go in there, but you keep pushing it, pushing it, Soleimani, ISIS, Baghdadi.
Keep pushing it.
Keep cutting people's heads off.
Keep killing Americans.
We're going to hit you.
And then we're going to say, make you great, bye, see you, wouldn't want to be you,
and we don't want to get an endless ground war.
That was what he always said he was going to do.
I don't understand it.
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this piece by
Mohanad Salum.
It's in Al Jazeera. The headline is
the U.S. Israeli strategy
against Iran is working.
And here's why. So this is what he writes.
Two weeks into Operation Epic Fury,
the dominant narrative has settled
into a comfortable groove.
The United States and Israel stumbled into a war
without a plan. Iran
is retaliating across the region.
Oil prices are surging.
The world is facing another
Middle Eastern quagmire. U.S.
Minators have called it a blunder, cable news has tallied the crises.
Commentators are now warning of a long war.
The chorus is loud and in some respects understandable.
War is ugly, and this one has imposed real costs on millions of people across the Middle East, including the city I live in.
This is I being Wahanid Saloon.
But this narrative is wrong, not because the costs are imaginary, but because the critics are measuring the wrong things.
They're cataloging the price of the campaign while ignoring.
the strategic ledger. Final paragraph here. When you look at what has actually happened to Iran's
principal instruments of power, it's ballistic missile arsenal, its nuclear infrastructure,
air defenses, it's Navy, it's proxy command architecture. The picture is not one of U.S. failure.
It is one of systematic, phased degradation of a threat that previous administration's allowed to
grow for four decades. Boy, a nice wrap up there to me. What's your take on that?
Well, two things. The first, he's absolutely correct. If you and I had this conversation three weeks ago and I said to you, Jack, I think Trump's going to go into Iran. And I have a prediction to make. And you'd say, well, what is that? I'd say in the first two weeks, he's going to kill Kamenani himself and Lorenjani and the Soleimani that is running the Thugish virgins.
version of the Revolutionary Guard, and he's going to get rid of most of the military commanders.
He's going to destroy their entire Air Force, all of the missile defense, and along with Israel,
they're going to make it almost impossible for an Iranian leader to show his face because he'll be dead,
and they're going to destroy his Navy, and they're going to destroy most of the remaining nuclear project,
And the, not just a 3,000 missiles and say 8,000 or 9,000 drones, but the subterranean fabrication assembly plants.
He's going to do all that.
Tragically, we're going to lose 13 people.
And that's going to be the first two weeks work.
And then you would have said, man, what are you?
Just nutty, Victor, you can't go into Iran and take on a country of 90 million people and do all that in two weeks and not suffer.
That's what we suffered.
one afternoon in Iraq or Afghanistan.
So it was pretty, he's right, but the question is more interesting, why is he writing that?
Because he lives and writes and breathes Al Jazeera, which is a construct of the Qatari government,
which is a triangulate.
It's right across the Gulf of Iran, and its basic attitude frustrates Americans because
they've got all this money and they give it American universities and they triangulate, they hate Israel.
They don't like the United States, but they're terrified, as is Kuwait, as is Saudi, as is Emirates, all of them, Oman, because they're right next to this lunatic Shia regime that hates Sunnis and hates their money and hates their success.
So as long as Iran was, what's the word, marketable, flexible, fluid, and they paid them off, Al Jazeera said, let's not have a fight.
These are fellow Muslims. We get along with Iran that would be very unwise because they know Iran would slaughter them and destroy them. I understand that. And they have oiled the ship out. But as soon as the war started, this article would not have been written the first week. It's written after the second week because Iran decided not just to hit U.S. basis, but to destroy the oil income of Gadhar and the Emirates.
and Oman, et cetera, et cetera, and their tourist potential hitting hotels, hitting airports,
and then lying as they always do by saying, we're only going after American.
So they're looking at this and they're thinking, take the finger in the wind.
Who is winning right now?
Oh, my gosh.
These crazy Shia Persians are breaking their word.
They're hitting this.
They're going to destroy our economy.
We can't get oil out.
We don't have a pipeline like Saudi.
This is terrible.
and they've ruined our tourist industry, and we're, let's unleash Al Jazeera, and we'll do this because
we're afraid that the Jews in Israel and the United States might quit.
And if they quit, we really like what they've done.
We haven't praised them yet.
But if they quit, they might not come back.
We might get another Biden or Obama.
So we've got to jump in and risk everything and praise them to the skies, not on.
on what they're doing, but how they are doing,
how brilliant it is, how successful,
they're just almost there.
If they just push a little bit,
they can destroy this menace and overthrow that government
and then we're safe.
And that's what they're doing now.
I don't blame them, but that's what they're doing.
It happens to be true, but the truth never bothered the Qataris.
They're allowing the truth to be expressed
because they think there's a good chance now
that Iran could actually actually
fall if, if, if another two or three weeks the Americans, you know, increase the stakes and they
don't leave.
But if they leave, they're terrified.
So they don't want them to leave, and that's what that article is saying.
Why would you leave?
You're very successful.
Don't listen to people.
You've been doing a great job, Americans and Israel.
Just keep doing it and protect us and get rid of that menace, and then maybe we'll be friends
and not triangulate and go behind your back and pay people.
off and unleash LZERA on you.
And as far as the Palestinians, we never cared about the
Palestinian. They're just useful.
So you know what? Forget about the Palestinian.
There are a Rania proxies.
You know who cares about Palestinians or
our Democrat Party voters? And we're going to get your take
on that. Absolutely.
There's a new poll out. We'll get your take on that and more.
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It's a headline, this is an NBC news poll.
Israel's standing plummets among Democrats, fueling primaries on the left.
American voters' feelings on Israel and Palestine territories have shifted dramatically in recent years.
And the sea change is transforming the Democratic Party.
party in shaping its primaries. A new NBC news poll underscores the depths of the shift. More
registered voters view Israel negatively than positively, a change from a few years ago. The change
has been especially pronounced among independents and Democrats fueling divided congressional primaries
in 2026 and potentially shaping the party's 2028 presidential contest when asked whether their
sympathies lie more with Israel or Palestinians.
40% of registered voters say they side more with the Israelis, while 39% with Palestinians.
This split stood at 45 for Israel and 13% for Palestinians when NBC conducted this poll a decade ago.
And that was your last one was in reference to Democrats.
Well, actually, actually this, by this, it's everybody.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Yeah. Well, I think I said that a couple of times that just faced the reality. If you're a Jewish American and you want to be on the national ticket, I don't think you're going to make it. I don't think you'll ever see a Joe Lieberman run as vice president again. Josh Shapiro has no future in an anti-Semitic party. He can be as moderate as he wants. He can try to say he's a Mike Dukakis technocrat.
he can, he's not going to make it.
He's, he's right in the middle of an anti-Semitic party.
And I don't think you'll see any major Jewish American.
And Chuck Schumer thinks he's cute and he can deal with these crazy socialists in his party that are anti-Semitic and hate Israel.
He's never going to be re-elected.
He can't be re-elected.
And that state, as far as the Democrats, belong to AOC and Mondami.
And they hate him.
They hate him because he's,
Jewish and behead him because he's not quite as crazy as they are. So that's what the party is today.
They favor a terrorist organization that originally, until recently, before they tried to camel,
in their constitution said they wanted to destroy the Jewish state. That was Hamas over a constitutional
government, parliamentary government, freedom. Any of those people go to the Middle East and they say,
I'm driving around Jordan.
We're going to go look at Lebanon.
Oh, where should we stay tonight?
Should we have a choice between staying in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq?
Oh, why don't we stay at the King David in Israel?
So everybody knows that, that it's an oasis of freedom and protection and security, constitutionality,
and everything around it is an autocracy and a nightmare.
And that's who the Democrats like now.
And they're kind of weird.
It's kind of like the proverbial roll the ball up the hill.
And they've tried so hard to legitimize all these people who kill Jews and hate Israel.
And now they're at the very top of the mountain and they're just letting it roll down gravity on the other side.
And it is picking up momentum.
And it's affected a lot of them in the Republican side too
Because all of a sudden people that you and I know that this summer praise the Trump strike
Or now they're defecting.
And Kent didn't really have to say.
All he had to say is I really, if he would, all he had to say was I tried to run for Congress twice.
I came close.
I really appreciate what Donald Trump did.
He went and endorsed me.
He made sure that I had help from the national politics.
party. I served with a distinction and honor and director of national intelligence. But we have just a
policy disagreement, but that does not. Instead, he had to say that basically Donald Trump was a pawn
of Israel. And that tells me that he thought that there was some currency to be had. And so all
these people now are looking, and there's another motivation that we haven't talked about, Jack,
When, let's say Tucker, if you look at the people that Tucker's had on his show or that he is highlighted or promoted, I think 30% of them you would call leftist.
You know what I mean?
And when you're on the right, and Candace, too, is popular among many circles on the left.
When you're on the right and you start insidiously and continuously bringing up Israel and dual loyalty, all of them.
that, people in the left say, well, there's two nice things I like about this. One, they're useful
idiots in my view, because even though I don't like them, and they're useful in splitting
apart my enemies, but number two, they kind of have been persuaded by us. And we're going to give
them avenues. We're going to put guests on their shows. We're going to let them talk to people
on the left. And a lot of the people in the Arab community love these people now in the radical Arab
community. So if you're a MAGA person and you decide that you're going to come out as a
person who believes that Israel pulls the strings in the United States, controls the Trump administration
and Jews in America have due loyalties and they're conspiratorial, you know that there's going to be
people in the New York Times, Washington Post, NPR, PBS, ABC, CBS, CNN, MS, all those people,
university campuses, they're going to like you.
If Tucker gave a talk at Columbia, I don't think they'd storm the doors as they would
nine months ago.
No.
But if a pro-lifer came, they'd...
Oh, my gosh.
You know, it's very strange, just analytically, it's very strange to watch this thing.
And it gets back to Donald Trump and when I said that he has about two or three, we're at a crisis of wills right now.
Iran is saying we are a rope-a-dope strategy.
We don't have high-rises.
We don't have your decadent Western lifestyles.
We can live with nothing.
And you can turn our country into rubble, but we'll still be here because we shoot people, we rape people.
we put the fear of God in through our own people.
And we like death and death better than life and you like life better than death.
And that's the difference.
And we are saying, Trump saying, well, we'll see about that.
We're going to break you and let the people vent their wrath at what you've done to them for 47 years.
But I have constraints.
Number one, the midterms.
If we lose, I'm just imagining that I'm Trump now.
If I'm Trump and I lose the midterms, I'm going to be impeached, which will derail my whole last two years.
They're going to get every subpoena.
They're going to go after Don Jr., Eric, all the people around them.
They're going to bring them in and saying they're profiting, cryptocurrency, defense contracts, Middle East.
That's going to make the Hunter Biden circus look ammuch, what they're going to do, those guys.
and then in addition, there's going to be no legislation.
Trump will be impeached if he lose the metric.
Second thing, if gas and oil, I mean, nobody says right now gas is still cheaper than at the high point of the Biden administration when nobody yelled at Biden.
But it is.
It's gone up about 50 or 60 cents.
But if it continues to go, there's going to be pressure for Trump to stop because of the economy.
The thing that will save him in the midterms are two things.
If he can get out of Iran and see that government either so mauled that it's toppling or it's actually toppled,
plus a quiet revolution in Cuba where Cuban Americans basically take over the country again and Venezuela,
and then you get the economy going, he will be, he will survive the midterm.
That's number two. That's that constraint. So he's got to get the Straits of Hermos open. He's got to get the oil moving. He's got to get, and then he's got the Maga schism. He's got to get everybody united for the midterms. He's got, and for the next, his successor. And you cannot win in this 50-50 nation unless you get everybody. But if you get everybody on the same team, you've got some problems. Because a lot of people on your team believe that Nick Fuentes,
This isn't that bad of a guy.
And so you've got all these pressures.
And then you've got the Europeans and all the triangulators, the allies.
And Europe, as we saw said, you see, Stormer, what do you say?
We are going to watch this situation closely and protect our interest in Cyprus, but this is not our war.
It's not your war.
It was not our war during the fall.
in 82.
When you went halfway across the world to maintain British supremacy and the reputation of the
British Navy over what?
Mr. Sturmer, are you British trying to tell me the Falklands were more strategically necessary
to the world than Iran was?
Because you went to war with that, and you had nuclear-tipped torpedoes and rockets on
your submarine, and you were out of fuel, and we gave you two million gallons of fuel that
saved you. And then we gave you the most sophisticated intelligence, satellite intelligence that
told you where every Argentine asset was. And then we gave a marine carrier. We put it on ready.
And said, if you lose one of your carriers, this is yours, take it. We gave you everything.
And that really hurt our interest in Latin America, because we were trying to get the Soviets out of
there and restore the Reagan version of the Monroe Doctrine. And you repay us and say, this is not our war.
Trump was right about that when he said, you know, I'm getting sick of NATO.
And then Spain kicks us out.
And then all of a sudden we, Trump should say to them, well, Ukraine, I guess that's your war.
Huh?
It's your war.
You negotiate with Putin.
You do that.
You rearm, do all that.
He's not going to do that.
He's going to go and try to help NATO as he should.
And he's tried, you know, try to recreate deterrence and scream and yell at them so that they defend themselves.
But gosh, if you're picking sides, it's a schoolyard, it's going to be a basketball game,
and the nations of the world are playing, and America's picking its first teammate,
who is it picking?
Who?
Yeah.
Would it be Israel?
Yes, I was just going to say it.
Yeah.
Israel's this little country with 10 plus million people.
It has 300 front line front.
fighter planes, best pilots, except for ours or maybe comparable to ours in the world.
They've got more fighters in Germany. They've got more fighters in Italy. They got more jet
fighters than does France. They got more jet fighters than Britain. They have a better army
than any of those four countries. They know how to fight. They're masters of military technology.
They're pro-American. And they understand what existential wars are about.
out. And sometimes they don't like what we do. And this really gets me when people on the right
say that they engineered the Iraq War of 2003. They didn't want that war. They kept saying,
if you want to want a war, go after Iran. Saddam is not our mortal enemy compared to the Iranians.
But the point is, when they disagreed with us, they didn't really grandstand. If you said
America was at war with Iran and Israel did not want to participate, believe me, the Israeli
would secretly stealthy allow us to use their bases and stuff like that.
So, yeah, that's our ally.
And then we have some good friends like Argentina temporarily.
And we have the Japanese are good.
I think the Australians, if they get a conservative government, are very good.
And the South Koreans can be good if they have a conservative government.
Yeah.
The days of, I mean, who would have thought the days Britain and Canada were, that's another thing if I could rant just for second.
It's your show.
Rantle.
We have this myth that we were just alike and we were friends and then Trump came and destroyed the Canadian-American special relationship.
If you look at what Canada has been doing, it didn't act like an ally or a friend.
It really didn't.
It had a EU criticism-like attack on the United States.
It was running up $61 billion in surplus trade in a supposedly idealistic free trade zone,
kind of a post-Nafta thing.
We're not supposed to do that.
There were, what, 32 nations in NATO.
It and Spain had the lowest contribution.
It wouldn't even spend 2%.
The Canadian attitude was, well, that's North American Treater Organization.
Well, it's mostly Europe.
And the United States represents us.
And we don't have a Navy.
They had the fourth largest Navy.
They were wonderful in World War II.
They had no Navy.
They have no – they don't even have the F-35s.
They've reneged on that, or they're not going to get them, or they can't get them.
Who knows?
And we asked them to get ice cutters and help them deliver –
defend the so-called Northwest Passage or they won't even do that.
Now they've got what was it this year, our former colleagues at National Review pointed out,
they've had 83,000 euthanasia deaths.
One out of every, 5% of everyone who dies in Canada, it dies from the Maid program.
And then you look at their health system.
If you want a brain surgery, it's about a year wait, if you want what I had.
If I was a Canadian right now and I said I have a 7.3 centimeter ground glass opacity with a 3 centimeter invasive tumor in the middle, can I get it out?
Yes, yes, of course you can. It'll be six months from now.
I would have been dead.
It's a warped system.
Yeah, it is.
And then you get the impression that one of the reasons they like euthanasia is a person comes in and says, I have stage four breast cancer.
but I've heard about this immunotherapy in the United States.
It can give me two or three years.
Is there any chance?
No, you know, that would just be miserable.
Why don't you just sit down here in this couch and just think all day about it?
And we'll save a million bucks and you won't have to go through the vomiting and the chemo or the immunotherapy reaction.
That's what they're at.
That's the subtext of it.
So, and then you get with the open border and then their immigration policy, I mean, the truck driver,
who killed, what, 16 people in Canada?
Did you see his defense?
He said that he didn't want to go back and be deported
because his kid was three years old
and would have to breathe Indian air.
Your kid is breathing.
16 young kids are not breathing because of you.
So everything about them has their end their...
I love Canadians.
I know a lot of them.
Some of them are my family.
But my point is they're indistinguishable from Europeans as far as their attitude toward us.
It's condescending.
It's sort of, well, you're a rough, rowdy Roman legionaire, and we're a Greek philosopher,
and we'll tell you what you should do with that power, mostly because we are more strategically
analytical than you are.
And that's how they act toward us.
They don't pull their weight.
they could. So I think what Trump, why they hate Trump, is not that he polarized them, that he took off this scab and he tore it off and he said, this is a scab, but you don't know what's underneath it. Once you understand euthanasia and once you understand their immigration policy and once you understand their attitude toward NATO and once you understand their trade surpluses and once you understand all of their asymmetrical laws,
And once you see this state-sponsored anti-Americanism, you will be very upset.
And I'm going to expose it to you.
They haven't had a normal man, anybody in governments since Stephen Harper, who was a wonderful prime minister.
I guess he was there, what, nine years or longer.
He was an absolute world-class leader.
He was pro-Israel.
He was pro.
He tried to rearm the best he could for nation.
and they, what do they do?
He was the last Canadian, put it that way,
so I'm concerned, the last old Canadian of old Canada.
And we're not going to see anybody like him.
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Victor, a couple of, I'm going to cram these headlines together just to get your take on it before we go to our final break and then another topic.
but no surprise, I think, to anyone who listens or watches a show.
Here's two headlines, both from the Daily Mail.
Two more Wall Street Giants flee blue states as they head south.
So it turns out the Yamaha Motor Corporation, which is based in Cyprus, California,
is moving to Kennesaw, Georgia after nearly five decades.
And ExxonMobil, which is technically headquartered in New Jersey, is heading south to Texas.
And then another headline, woke Seattle kills its golden goose.
A Starbucks is accused of plotting a huge office move to deep red Tennessee.
It's got office space there for several hundred.
But the belief is that Starbucks is actually getting thousands of spaces now in Tennessee.
And as a precursor, it seems, to moving the whole damn operation.
There's no proof that it's re.
But why would a corporation state?
In Seattle, in New Jersey, in New York, in Connecticut.
I have a really brilliant colleague at Hoover, Josh Rao.
I think you know Josh.
I did, yeah.
And he was part of, he wasn't he the head of the Trump economic advisors in the first term for a while?
Yes.
Very prominent.
And he wrote a very incisive article, calibrating what California is going to lose in revenue by exiling these billionaires.
And it's in the $20, $30, $40 billion range.
It's scary.
It's going to cost the state and a lot.
of money. But you know what's happening is it's kind of reminding me of 1850s in the United States
when the Missouri compromise and all of these great compromises really made the situation worse
because they created this self-selection of settlers and places like Missouri especially. But
every state that was a potential border state, whether it was Kentucky or Missouri, or as Joe Biden
bragged about his
Delaware being
a slave state, I think it was a border
state, people
started to self-select
to go
try to move and
change the ideological
tempo of that particular
region. So the south, people in the
north who were sympathetic with slavery
and there were a lot were
going south and the people in the
south who knew that if you were
Republican, you were doomed, were going northward. And this was over a 30-year period. It was getting
more and more polarized. And what's happening in this country right now is in the blue states,
because they're rife with fraud and they will never, ever prosecute the people involved,
partly because of DEI, but partly because of their high-end, the Democratic Party, they're broke.
and their answer to that is not cut, cut, reform, reform, save, trim, but tax, tax, tax.
So they're losing the billionaires and they're losing the upper middle class professionals,
300,000 of them in California.
And it's just not a matter of money.
When you, my wife and I were talking the other day, I went into a lab and I had an appointment
and they said, you don't have a prescription.
I said, I do have a prescription.
She asked me my name and everything
So they wouldn't give me a blood test
It was pretty important blood test
And I got back and I called the national office
Of this particular lab and they said, well
She used my middle name
It was in the computer
I was already and all she had to do was just say what
I gave her my driver's license
So she didn't even check
You just said well
There's Victor Hansen
And I said well I'm Victor Davis Hansen
Maybe they, no, no, you can't go get out, basically.
But what I'm trying to say is there's people at all levels in California, they're incompetent.
And that's because year after year after year, doctors, lawyers, engineers, technicians who are making 100 to 300,000.
And they're not wealthy given the housing prices and cost here.
They just, I can't take it anymore.
It's not just that they tax me.
They hate my guts.
the more they tax me, the more they revile me.
These people are crazy.
I'm leaving.
I'm leaving Illinois.
I'm leaving New York.
I'm leaving Washington State.
And they're going to places and places like Texas and Tennessee and Florida say, come on down.
The more you come with all that capital, the less likely it is we're ever going to have an income tax.
And we're going to let you to create more wealth.
And the red states are getting more conservative and entrepreneurial and libertarian and free.
And the blue states are getting – but the question is not that they're changing alone.
The blue states, of course, are getting more socialist and communist.
And they'll start confiscating people's money, as Mondami will probably do pretty soon.
He's already saying they'll tax white people more on their property.
But – or they'll go after their 401ks or something.
They've already talked about that.
When I wrote the Dine Citizen, I read about four articles where people were saying,
let's take some 401k money and give them Social Security credit, you know, at a bad deal.
But the thing about it is it's not just that they're changing, but one model works and one doesn't.
And the problem is the more that the blue model doesn't work, the more it doesn't work.
It's impoverishing them.
And the red states are getting wealthier and more successful.
And so it's not sustainable.
It's not sustainable.
And I don't know.
Either one of two things are going to happen.
Either some blue state people are going to say, like in California,
they're going to elect Steve Hilton or somebody.
I don't know.
They'll have to have a radical change, but it wouldn't be enough because the legislature,
it's gerrymandered.
Or it's going to be like 1850s, bleeding Kansas.
and clean Missouri and Kansas, because they're not compatible systems.
You're going to have judges in all of these blue districts that are going to interpret the law in ideological fashion.
You're going to have strict constructionists in the red states.
You're going to have the same thing with DAs.
So if you're an American citizen and you go on a subway and you let somebody on fire or you rape a young minor and you happen to be an illegal,
if you're in a blue state, you're not going to be punished.
much. If you're in a red state, you're going to be put away for a long time. Can I tell you a headline
here on that, just on that, 20-year-old Muhammad Bakari Shai, this is in Minnesota, Rochester, Minnesota,
gets 180 days in jail. He did go to jail. What did he do? He raped two girls under the age of nine.
You know what the headline would be. Confused immigrant, bewildered by the intricacies of American
popular culture may have erred in some ways and now is a victim of retribution, retributive
justice.
Yeah.
You know?
Well, that's what it is.
And it's not sustainable.
And I don't know how it will finally end, but I won't be here.
But it's going to, and you won't be here, maybe, being yet much younger than I am.
I'll go out fighting.
But it's getting scary.
It's going to cut families in half.
And there's going to be California has 27% of the population was not born in the United States.
And there's nobody like Gavin Newsom, he says celebrate diversity.
He doesn't say this, this is an existential challenge, everybody.
We've got people from all over the world, different languages, religions, but we have to unite them with one thing.
English, American culture, and values.
And we're going to have a K through 12 civic education.
He's not going to do that.
Well, let's talk about that based off of a big piece you just wrote.
And we'll do that, Victor, when we come back from these final important messages.
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I want to remind you again, Victor's website, the blade of Perseus, Victor Hanson.com,
where you can read this article the Victor wrote.
It's titled Our New Ungracious Immigrants.
here's just one sentence, the question.
The final irony, why does so many criminals believe they can enter the U.S. illegally and get away with murder?
But, Victor, given what you were just saying, why does so many Americans, you know, born here, born bred, you know, no question that they're Americans, you know, born.
Why do they hate America?
I mean, the solution can't be imploros unum if the existing Americans hate the country.
country they grew up because they'd never been assimilated. So you had the two Afghan and Turkish
Americans, whose second generation, their parents came from Turkey and Afghanistan, and they know that
if they make two IEDs and go to New York to kill a bunch of people, first of all, they don't
think they're going to get much sentencing because they feel that somebody will say it's
Islamophobic. And they've got, they absorbed in their school,
that they are a protected species under DEI.
And they know that when a Muslim shouts al-A-A-Aqbar, then somebody is going to contextualize that
and say it's not a hate crime and they're not going to serve something.
And they said, I'm not being sarcastic or ironic.
When they did this, those two, they said they wanted to be more famous than the Boston
marathon bomber brothers, a sardin.
And they said that not just because they killed three in Boston and wounded hundreds,
but because Rolling Stone put the surviving brother on that photo, with photogenic like he was
sexy.
Sexy, right.
On the cover.
And they know it because people in that community know that when Major Hassan at Fort Hood,
who had given years of evidence that he hated the country that he was born in,
when his Palestinian parents were naturalized, when he yelled al-Aqbar and shot 13 dead of his own
fellow soldiers and wounded, I guess it was 30-something, he knew that that would be contextualized.
And what did the Obama administration do and the Pentagon?
There's no evidence, Jack, that this was a politically motivated terrorist act.
And what did George Casey, a fine soldier, head of chief of staff of the U.S. Army?
What did he say?
Well, as bad as this tragedy is, it would be as equal a tragedy if this imperiled our diversity, equity, inclusion program.
No, it wouldn't.
It would be a good reason to get rid of it and assimilate people.
Amen.
And so that's the problem that the message has gone out that you can be an opportunistic American.
So if you're Mr. Laurentjani, I should excuse me, the late Mr. Laronjani.
the terrorist kingpin that was basically ruling Iran, and you hate the great Satan so much,
you send your daughter to the United States.
And she's educated here.
Of course, you're saying that every woman in Iran must have head coverings and can't be exposed,
and you're sending your daughter to a place where it's the great Satan, where there's pornography.
But that's okay, because she's going to get a Western education.
be prominent and she may be a vital asset to the Iranian. And then she's hired. Who would ever hire her?
They hired her at Emory University. She's the daughter of one of the most cutthroat persons who right
before he died threatened to kill the President of the United States. He said Trump better be
careful. We're going to kill him. And yet she's a professor for a while at Emory Medical
School. And the answer is because she and her father sized up America.
They don't care.
And there's people in the United States that hate the United States.
And we asked nothing of the Dearborn community.
So we had people from, and then we had that protest in your city, New York, where they were protesting right in the middle of the war on behalf of Hamas and Hezbollah and Iran.
Of course, I agree with you.
Who couldn't?
Wouldn't.
But I guess my desire is to put more attention on the people that hate America include, I mean,
Americans, right?
Which you've said is not only these.
Jack, they were all Americans.
Well, true, but the white liberal girls who are rallying and hairs colored purple and, you know, tattoos galore and pieces everywhere.
Give them credit.
They were tweaking an ice officer the other day.
Very beautiful young women.
Yeah.
Do they like America?
No.
They hate America also.
And they've been running the education system.
And don't think it is.
How that works out in the real world, the Iranian surviving, if there are any surviving leaders, say, you know what, just keep it up.
Just rope it up, rope it up, because we've got a lot of allies over there, and they're going to put so much pressure on Trump, and they like us better.
John Kerry likes us better.
Remember that?
He helped us when Trump was president the first time.
He was negotiating behind Trump's back.
Come on.
Come on, come on.
That's how they view it as an asset.
And why wouldn't they when we have a citizen, a naturalized citizen?
So we get Ilyan Omar comes over here and her father was an elite, a wealthy, crooked, corrupt general who was participating in the genocide perpetrated by the Somali government.
She comes over here.
She says she's surprised how trashy the United States is.
She probably allegedly, supposedly, purportedly married her brother.
She never has said, I didn't do that, and I'm willing to take a DNA test, and he will, too, to show we're not related.
She won't do that.
But she probably violated immigration law.
Somehow she ended up with $30 million of network.
I don't know how.
Her sister was knee-deep in the Somali welfare extortion fraud, whatever you want to call it.
And she has said, let me think what she said.
She said that the dictatorship in the United States elected government, of course, is just as bad as in Somalia that we're one of the worst countries in the world.
It's all about the Benjamin's baby, Benjamin Netanyahu and the $100 bill, Benjamin Franklin, and so on and so on.
And she's the face of the new Democratic Party.
She's an out-and-out anti-Semite.
She hates the United States.
and she probably came here.
This is what I don't understand when I say she probably came here.
Why did the Sarnup brothers come here?
Why did she come here?
Why did Rashida Talib's parents come here?
Why did the person that killed that heroic ROTC instructor?
Why did he come from Sierra Leone here?
Or his parents did.
Why did he want to be a citizen?
Why at the Old Dominion?
Why did the person who rammed the car in in Michigan?
whose brother and the New York Times, well, he did it because his brother,
no, they were Hezbollah terrorist.
Why would we allow a Hezbollah terrorist family member to come into this country?
And why did we let this guy from Afghanistan's parents and the turrets?
Why do we do that?
And why do they do this?
Because they think, A, there's not going to be any consequence to it.
And B, there's half the country on the left is going to be.
to praise us for doing us. And three, we're on the victimized, oppressed side of the binary. And therefore,
we get special attention and deference and exemption. And that's how it works out. Lots of cash related to
it. If they just had one judge that says, okay, we found you guilty of putting two IEDs. And I have
sent you to 50 years with no parole. And then you had a governor of the state,
I don't know if that would be a state or federal.
Say a federal crime, then this person will never be commuted or pardon.
That would be a deterrent.
But they don't think that's going to happen.
They really don't.
New York under Cuomo as governor, he created this terrible, he's talked about parole,
this terrible parole board.
And I think they have released 40 to 50 cop killers over.
over the years. If you kill a cop, you should have been executed yourself, but there's no capital
punishment in New York. Okay, life in prison. There's no life in prison anymore, even for a cop killer.
Look at the, what was his name, DeC Carlos Brown. He was let out. He killed the Ukrainian woman
that slitter the throat. People stepped over her like she was a piece of trash, walked on by why she
bled to death. He won't be in prison long. Yeah. Well, Victor, we're going to wrap up. I just
want to mention one thing. I'm happy for you. In one sense, not happy the reason you don't fly
anymore is because, you know, medical reasons, but you're kind of sick of fly. You tell
this many times about your terrible experiences, but Victor, if you were still in flying mode,
Mamma Mia, the lines you'd have to be waiting on at these airports today would populate.
It's not funny that Donald Trump had reportedly in the fourth quarter
approximation of 5.2 economic growth GDP. As you see, it was vastly downgraded due to the
government shutdown in the fourth quarter, which was by design. Longest shutdown in the country,
only one purpose for it, and that was to punish Donald Trump so the economy would go into
recession before the midterm. And now we have this other shutdown. It has nothing to do with
the department ICE or any of the border controls. They're funded for three.
years, they know that it will not, they say they're doing it for ICE. Originally, they said
they wanted to negotiate, but their price was pretty high. They wanted the firing of Christy
Gnome. And they, she basically was forced out. And they said, ah, that's not enough. And they're doing
the same thing. They want to shut down. They want chaos because they have no agenda. And if they do
have an agenda, which they don't, nobody would vote for it. So their attitude is, I got to create so
much chaos that you, American voter, get in a fetal position, put your hands over your ears,
and say, make it all go away.
Oh, worked in 2020.
Yes, it did.
And we'll find an old Joe Biden from Scranton.
Maybe it'll be, uh, Gavin.
It won't be Shapiro.
Yeah, it won't be Shapiro.
But it might be Gavin.
We'll slap him around and say, no, no, no, you're Edmund G. Brown.
Jerry Brown.
You're a midstream old Democrat.
at you're not a radical. You can be as radical as you want when you're going to be when you get
elected, but you're going to fake it like you're going to have, remember you had Charlie Kirk
on your pod, well, you'll have those podcasts once you get nominated. That's what they do. And then
barring that, they will open the borders like you won't believe if they get elected. They'll just
open them and they'll say, we want not 12 million, we want 30 million. Because they look at all
of these groups and they think, wow, if I was out, I'm Karen and I don't want to use that.
term people have written me not to disparage their name, but this certain profile of a white, affluent,
urban, suburban, radical leftist that is foul mouth, and can't even talk about Trump without
going crazy and has all of these ideological left-wing ideas that never pertain to herself.
As far as her own, her own lifestyle, she's got a nice car, a nice home, exquisite taste,
but she goes out in the street,
and she looks and says,
well, these poor immigrants,
they're burning the flag of the country.
They don't want to go back to,
I mean, they're burning the flag of the country.
They want to stay in,
and they're waving them when they don't.
This is my kind of people.
I'm going to go join them in protest.
Very funny.
They say they're on behalf of Mexican illegal aliens
and South American,
but every time I see them on television,
They're spitting, yelling, screaming at somebody who's Mexican American and ice.
The demographics of the ice, in the Border Patrol, it's well more than 12% of the Mexican American or 10% of the demographic.
It's about 20%.
Let's just say it.
Spanish-speaking ICE agents are very patriotic.
They're very courageous.
and their main antagonist are wealthy white suburban women who spit out of them and yell at them and cursed them.
Miranda Devine was mocking on X this Thomas Friedman article in the New York Times about going back to Minnesota
and being so proud of what was going on there and the tremendous things these people were doing to fight ice,
including like women trading breast milk, you know, for their kids.
Like this was some sign of civil society on the left and how they take on and fight ice.
These people are just, they're whack jobs, but they're dangerous whack jobs.
It's like when they had that alternate, they had that show, you know, when they wall walked out and those guys were dressed up in puppet uniforms and they were, that one guy who had crashed the church and tried to disrupt it.
he was on the stage screaming and yelling obscenities.
And then we saw, I mentioned this, I'll be kind of frank.
I'm not judgmental, but I wouldn't say she was especially attractive, but she puts her
rear end in the face of an ice agent and then twerps her rear end as if she's sexually desirable
and filthy-minded.
And this is supposed to, I guess, send the message, I am so desirable, but I'm untouchable,
so I'll get right next to you and arouse you, but I'm forbidden.
And he's probably thinking, oh, my God, I don't really know if I can engage in sexual relations for 50 years.
Polk my eyes out, please.
So it's tragic.
And where do these people come from?
They come from the university.
That was one thing about Trump.
You've got to give him credit.
He, unlike the first term, he said, you know, we dealt with symptoms, not causes.
We didn't deal.
We just tried to cut out tumors.
we didn't deal with the DNA.
The DNA was the media, and it's the universities,
and it's the corporate boardrooms,
and it's the foundations,
and the big blue chip law firm.
And he understood that.
Universities are mostly the culpable.
They're the ones that train our high school grammar school teachers.
They're the ones that take,
they can take any farm kid from the San Joaquin Valley
and turn him into a communist in a year.
Right.
Yeah, the ones that give the finger at the bottom.
Pledge of Allegiance.
Hey, Victor, we've come to the end here, except for the usual end of the show business.
I have a couple of comments.
I want to read.
One is from Jimmy Olson Blues, who writes, Love VDH and Jack in this insane upside-down, fallen world.
God bless you both are being angels of wisdom.
Jimmy, there's one angel of wisdom here, and that's Victor, but I appreciate your kind
words.
Then there's Common Sense 20 who writes, I enjoy hearing about Victor's Swedish
ancestry. I can confirm that Scandinavians, even in the current generation, don't show much emotion
and do not get excited about much. My ancestry is mostly Norwegian with Swedish and German mixed in.
I lived in Northeast Iowa on a farm that has been in our family since 1854 and still attend the same
church all my ancestors attended. I feel very fortunate to have such a strong connection to the past.
I hope I can hold on to the farm and will be able to pass it on to my children. Thank you for another
a great episode. And then along the same lines, Kevin Buzha 8105 writes, I enjoy what Dr. Hansen says
and the common sense of it, but I absolutely love the family stories. One of my favorites is the
uncle that cut off his thumb and went back to work and Dr. Hanson's father had to take the uncle
to the hospital. Personally, I would pay for at least one entire episode dedicated to family
stories. I can tell you that my twin brother ground off his finger tip and he went to the emergency
room and we were packing fruit and I looked around three hours later, there he was. Back to work.
Back to work. Can I end with an anecdote? I want to question because I'm interested in this
Catholic question. Oh yes, my friend. What color are devils? I thought they were red, but we're talking
about childhood stories.
I was at Eric White Grammar School,
and it was predominantly Mexican-American students.
And there was a very bright girl, Lydia.
I think she's still around, so I won't mention her last name.
And one day, she came back from Catechism.
On Fridays, the entire school was bust to Catechism.
There was like 20.
Yes, we were about 20 people who were Protestant,
and they let us have the run of the school.
We called you the public school kids.
Yes, and we got frozen fish dip.
on Fridays because you couldn't eat meat.
Right.
So we all love the Catholic kids.
But anyway, she came back and she had this book and she said that the devils were green.
And I was like 12 and I had been pulling pictures off of Dore's illustrated, you know, black and white cutouts of Dante's Inferno.
And then I'd ask my mom, what color are these?
She said they're red devils.
Don't you know what red devil fireworks and red devil?
We know they're.
So when she said they were green, I said, no, Lydia, they're red.
And she said, no, devils are green.
And our church and our priest and the nuns told me they were green.
Is that true?
I don't know that, although I went to Shatra, and I think there was some devils in the windows.
And there's a red-green thing that came up, but I do forget.
I will find out and bring it up on the next.
Yes, I want to know about that.
Yeah.
I'll just say two quick last things since we're talking Catholicism.
One is when you asked me the other day, why are people coming?
back to the church or whatever. I do want to say that there's one thing about Catholicism is
we believe the Eucharist is actual Jesus and the blood is actual. And that is something appealing
to a lot of people, the real, what we call the real presence. So that was an allure and I did not
mention it the other day. And the other thing is, is the interesting thing of St. Patrick's Day
we're recording. And the show is up on the 19th. So the 19th is the feast day.
St. Joseph, the Father of Jesus, and St. Joseph is the patron of Italy, and the Italians in New York
always, they have many reasons for resenting the Irish. I'm half Italian and half Irish, but one was like
that, why was St. Patrick's Day such a big thing when two days later, our Saints Day, St. Joseph,
who was the stepfather of Jesus of all people? How come we don't have the same kind of level of
interest? So there was always interesting, a little resentment here on my,
I've seen a lot of people in New York that have your heritage half Irish and half Italian.
Yeah, well, they, the, yes, I know many of them.
Megan Kelly just, Mel.
Megan Kelly just said that the other day about her Irish ancestry.
Did you hear that?
No, I did not, but she's, I don't want to go.
I don't want to wait into the controversies.
But she was taught, people had been criticizing, she and Mark Levin were exchanging.
Barb's, how's that word, barbs?
Barb's, it's an understatement.
Yes, it's a euphemism.
But when she was pressed, she said that she was half Irish.
And she was, the Irish didn't let people push them around.
And they were street fighters, basically.
Yeah, well, that's, I mean, what group couldn't say that, right?
You know, honestly, that's, I was once, it should not be an excuse.
I was once talking about being Swedish when I was a,
little kid, I'm Swedish, I'm Swedish. And my mom said, now, wait a minute, your father's
mother was not Swedish. She was Irish. I said, no, she's not. I asked, well, I think she was Irish.
And my mother was Irish. So you're more Irish than Swedish. And my dad came over and he took a baseball
hat. He said, that's size
eight, Pauline.
He is not
a homoicale. He is not
one of your family's
homoculus. He has got a
nice, big, square,
empty head, he was kidding.
It's a Max van Cedow kind of head.
Yeah. I love Maxx. You know that I went to
a final thing. I was
they had Swedish
writer and residence at Gustavus
Adolphus. And I came
to speak there right after
when he was there.
Oh.
Yes, and I had a lunch with him.
He was the nicest guy in the world.
Really?
Oh, cool.
Yes, I did.
Well, it was in the cafeteria, but it wasn't a formal lunch, but I did get a hamburger,
and I saw him sitting there and walked over and sat down.
Wow.
He spoke better English than I did.
You have led a very interesting, I wasn't going to say charm life,
but you're just surviving cancer surgery, so you've really been an interesting life, Victor.
All right.
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Victor, you've been terrific.
You're always terrific.
Thanks very much for all the wisdom you share.
Thanks, folks for watching. Thanks for listening.
As Jackson Brown says, I think I'm running on empty, Jack.
You are. It's the time to end this. Shut up, Jack.
Okay.
God bless everyone. We'll see you soon.
Thank you for listening, everybody. I really appreciate it.
I want to also thank all these cards. I'm just inundated, and I read everyone.
And they're so well-written and their calligraphy and they're witty and they're encouraging.
Yeah. And I'd say 99-99-99% mentioned the old.
Almighty is having a hand and thing.
I just said that because a person called me who was a surgeon very quickly, and he said,
given the amount of blood that you lost and the number of transfusions, you're very
lucky because people in your same situations have usually bled, bled out.
I'm saying people ask, I said, Victor almost died.
I think that's true.
And I think it was through the intervention of people like that that were praying for me.
I'm sure it was a Catholic saint.
Anyway, I have got all these, yeah, I mean, I think.
I know the Knights of Columbus sent you a relic.
I've had so many Catholic groups.
Yeah, they were so nice.
And the people.
And then the stories of people who, you know,
have had all these cancer stories that would just crush you.
A person wrote today and he said he had prostate stage four.
And then he had the lung surgery like I did,
but then they had a pulmonary embolism and then this and this.
But four years later,
I'm still here.
It was so uplifting, you know.
All these people live lives as a great novelist
out of quiet desperation.
Well, and it seems to me, I'm just an observer here
that there's a sense of a brotherhood
that people feel with you anyway,
but especially those who have endured cancer.
I was very lucky.
I didn't realize how lucky I was
that that surgeon looked at that tube
and saw all the blood and got an operating room and got an anesthesiologist and went right back in,
had no idea where the two veins and the artery were, found them, reopened everything, put all the
cameras back in place, clipped them, cauterized them, got me all back in one piece.
All right.
Well, we're blessed to have you here, Victor.
All right.
One more time.
You're the best.
Folks, we'll see you soon.
Bye-bye.
Thank you, everybody, for listening again.
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