The Daily Signal - Victor Davis Hanson: The Trump-Musk Split is a Gift to the Left
Episode Date: June 16, 2025After Elon Musk publicly criticized Trump’s “Big, Beautiful Bill” for overspending, a once-productive relationship spiraled into mutual recriminations, accusations, and veiled threats. Victor... Davis Hanson breaks down the sudden, bizarre, and historically unprecedented rupture between two powerful figures who, until recently, appeared to be allies in reshaping America’s economic and political direction on today’s episode of “Victor Davis Hanson: In His Own Words.” “ So, what was it all about? People have given all sorts of different explanations. One of them is that the new big, beautiful bill will phase out subsidies for all electric vehicles. And given Tesla’s attacks on—people attacking stations, chargers, dealers, individual drivers, the bad publicity the Democrats ginned up, he can’t afford that right now. … He’s angry about this bill. And then, when Trump sort of brushed it off, he went DEFCON 1. “Elon Musk needs Donald Trump for the space exploration, for a fair shake on his business deals. And Donald Trump is aided by Elon Musk, especially the SpaceX. So, it’s a mutually beneficiary relationship, not just for both of them, but for us, the American people.” 👉 This episode is sponsored by the Pepperdine School of Public Policy. Learn more: https://go.pepperdine.edu/dailysignal 👉Don’t miss out on Victor’s latest videos by subscribing to The Daily Signal today. You’ll be notified every time a new piece of content drops: https://youtube.com/dailysignal?sub_confirmation=1 👉If you can’t get enough of Victor Davis Hanson from The Daily Signal, subscribe to his official YouTube channel: https://youtube.com/victordavishanson7273 👉He’s also the host of “The Victor Davis Hanson Show,” available wherever you prefer to watch or listen. Links to the show and exclusive content are available on his website: https://victorhanson.com (0:00) The Musk-Trump Fallout (0:15) Historical Context and Tensions (0:34) The Democratic Party's Role (1:01) Higher Education Transformation (1:51) Revisiting the Musk-Trump Fallout (5:29) Potential Resolutions and Future Outlook Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I'd like to comment on this strange, bizarre, surreal sudden fallout between Elon Musk and Donald Trump.
All of a sudden, Elon Musk started to attack the big, beautiful bill, because he said it spent too much money.
So there was always a tense relationship that grew out of an unnatural relationship in the sense that we haven't seen anything like this since FDR and Harry Hopkins, who was a personal advisor to FDR.
It was a relationship that was very, very close in an unusual way and it was bound to have these tensions.
They're not perpendicular. They're parallel.
They have the same eventual visions of what America should be and make no mistake about it.
The Democratic Party may be neutered, but it is not inert.
It is all geared up and frenzied for the midterm.
Now is the time for unity.
And the quicker these two can form a new relationship, the better it is for the country at large.
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business. Hello, this is Victor Davis-Hansson for the Daily Signal. I'd like to
comment on this strange, bizarre, surreal, sudden fallout, or was it so sudden, between Elon Musk and Donald Trump?
All of a sudden, Elon Musk started to attack the big, beautiful bill that's now in the Senate,
because he said it spent too much money, and it was contrary to all the work that he had done with his Doge team.
They were cutting spending, and yet this was too generous, I suppose.
it may increase the deficit if the economy is not stimulated as a bill intends.
But the point is that Donald Trump then said he was kind of bizarre,
that he has a very thin margin in Congress,
and he was kind of surprised that his friend and ally would attack him that way.
And then that started a cascade.
So in the next 48 hours, we heard from Elon Musk that Donald Trump owed his victory to his efforts in Pennsylvania.
He won the electoral college, remember, beyond Pennsylvania.
It was critical, but it was not the sine qua non.
He could have won without Pennsylvania, given the electoral college margin.
And then he said, in addition, that Donald Trump might look at impeachment.
That's a little scary because if the Democrats win the midterms, that's the first thing they're going to do.
So that was kind of eerie.
He also mentioned the Epstein files.
He said he was going to disconnect his SpaceX Dragon.
component from the national space effort. I don't think he's going to do that. That would be
neolithic. And then Donald Trump replied that in kind, but not nearly as intense as Elon Musk.
So what was it all about? People have given all sorts of different explanations. One of them is that
the new big, beautiful bill will phase out subsidies for all electric vehicles and given Tesla's
attacks on state people attacking stations,
chargers, dealers, individual drivers, the bad publicity, the Democrats, Gene Up, he can't afford that
right now. He was very upset. Maybe it was his nominee, he thought, to head NASA that the Trump
people felt was correctly, that was a Democrat in too far left. And then there were cabinet
secretaries that said that Elon Musk was not just advising them where to cut, but sort of
demanding. So there was always a tense relationship that grew out of an unnatural relationship,
in the sense that rarely, we haven't seen anything like this since FDR and Harry Hopkins,
who was a personal advisor to FDR.
Unlike Musk, he moved into the White House and basically crafted the whole detente with
Joseph Stalin's Soviet Union as a leftist himself.
So it was a relationship that was very, very close in an unusual way, and it was bound to have
these tensions.
Then Musk said, you know, he started making these stories.
He can't go anywhere because remember the California Coastal Mission, the left-wing coastal mission, tried to stop additional rocket flights.
The left demonize him. They hate him for what he did with Doge. He's under assault on Tesla.
His whole philosophy is entrepreneurism, lower taxes, less deregulation, not what the left has.
So he knows he's frustrated because he knows he can't go back to the left, and yet he's angry about this bill.
And then when Trump sort of rushed it off, he went DefCon 1.
Is there a hope to this relationship being healed?
I think there is because it was historically rare to have a private citizen so close with the administration.
But if you take that away, you can see they have the same enemies.
The left are delighted right now.
and they're fueling this.
They have the same enemies, and they have the same friends.
They're not perpendicular.
They're parallel.
They have the same eventual visions of what America should be.
They want less government, less deregulation, fewer taxes, a cultural counter-revolution,
unleashing of entrepreneurial talent, a meritocracy instead of DEI, a closed border,
legal only immigration.
So they're almost synonymous.
So what happens to heal this ripped?
I think we all know what has to happen.
Donald Trump is the most powerful man in the world.
But unlike Elon Musk, he doesn't run a private company or even a public-held company by Fiat.
Even though he has majorities in the House and Senate, he has to compromise.
It's like herding cats.
He can't get the bill he wants or his advisors want.
So this beautiful bill has elements on border security, on defense, that are good, and it's the beginning, not the end.
So it must need to see that as a CEO, he can rule by directive.
He can rule by Fiat.
And in some ways, he has more power over his domain than Donald Trump or any president does over his.
So he's got to appreciate that.
The other thing that he has to appreciate, I think, is that Donald Trump is now in negotiations with three of the meanest, I use this term, S-O-Bs in the world.
Xi Jinping, the head of China, Vladimir Putin, and whoever the lunatic theocrats are running things in Iran, he can't afford to back down in a private dispute with an individual American, even one that's the richest man in the world, because it would send a message,
of these three characters that if you press Donald Trump, you get him angry or you do something,
he will back off. And the left has been already using that meme. So what needs to happen is
intermediaries come forward and they spell out the new relationship. It will not be as intense.
It will not be as close. It will not be as frequent. And therefore, it will avoid these disruptions.
But it will be based on mutual admiration respect, but more importantly, Elon Musk needs Donald Trump for the space exploration, for a fair shake in his business deals.
And Donald Trump is aided by Elon Musk, especially the SpaceX.
So it's a mutually beneficial relationship, not just for both of them, but for us, the American people.
And make no mistake about it.
The Democratic Party may be neutered, but it is not inert.
It is waging potty-mouth videos, congressional disruptions, attacks on Tesla's, huge donor-supplied
lawfare going after the Trump agenda in these lower district courts.
It is all geared up and frenzied for the midterms.
Now is the time for unity, not disunity.
And the quicker these two, very talented and powerful people can form a new relationship
based not as intensely as the past, but on mutual respect, the better it is for the country at
large. Thank you very much. This is Victor Davis-Hansson for the Daily Signal. Thank you for tuning in
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