The Daily Signal - Victor Davis Hanson: Trump and 'The Art' of the 'Troll'

Episode Date: January 15, 2025

In this edition of The Daily Signal’s “Victor Davis Hanson: In His Own Words,” Hanson delves into former President Donald Trump's negotiation techniques, which critics call “trolling.” Hanso...n discusses how Trump's strategies, as described in 'The Art of the Deal,' play out in various geopolitical scenarios: renaming the Gulf of Mexico, purchasing Greenland, renegotiating the Panama Canal Treaty, and making Canada a state: “In the case of renaming the Gulf of Mexico, the Mexican president showed a map recently of the southwest of the United States being part of Mexico. That was her counter. That's kind of a bad troll, because they rely on $63 billion of remittances.” The discussion emphasizes Trump's approach of making extreme demands to gain an upper hand and highlights the irony in how he uses left-wing arguments against their proponents. Tune in to understand the intricate dynamics of Trump's methods and their implications on international relations. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The traditional exegesis of all of these is that he's trolling. Go back to the art of the deal, a ghostwritten book, the comeback, etc. The art of the deal too. In that Trump exegesis, he says when you go into a room to negotiate, you just seem wild and demand 100 percent. Through the negotiation, the other party starts to make demands on you reciprocally. And then finally, you feel like you've been put upon and you walk out of the room with a 55 or 60 percent advantage and then you never make fun of the person, you praise them.
Starting point is 00:00:32 We've seen it with North Korea in the first Trump term. Hello, this is Victor Davis Hansen for The Daily Signal. I want to talk today very briefly about the matter of Trump trolling. I'm kind of smiling because a lot of people don't know what to make of it. It concerns four topics, renaming the Gulf of Mexico, the Gulf of America, assuming control of Greenland or Bynet, I should say, renegotiating the Panama Canal Treaty with the idea that either they reform the Panamanians or we take acquisition of it, and then of course making Canada a particular state.
Starting point is 00:01:22 The traditional exegesis of all of these is that he's trolling. And in reference to that, go back to the art of the deal, a ghostwritten book, the art of the comeback, etc. the order of the deal too. And in that Trump exes Jesus, he says, when you go into a room to negotiate, you just seem wild and demand 100%. And then through the negotiation, the other party starts to make demands on you reciprocally. And then finally, you feel like you've been put upon and you walk out of the room with a 55%
Starting point is 00:01:57 advantage. And then you never make fun of the person. You praise them. We've seen it with North Korea in the first Trump term. So under that logic, Donald Trump is telling Canada, well, you don't spend any money to defend yourself, so to speak. You're under the American nuclear umbrella. And the trade imbalance is not fair because you have tariffs on our goods that we don't have on yours. And yet you won't patrol the border when you know the drugs and people are coming illegally in the United States.
Starting point is 00:02:32 blah, blah, blah. So we are going to demand something from you, make you the next state. And it's very effective because provinces like Ontario are very energy rich and very conservative, and maybe some would like to join the United States. So it causes a lot of dissension. It may have led to Mr. Trudeau finally throwing in the towel. The next example is, of course, Greenland, this huge country. a semi-autonomous province of Denmark, three or four times the size of Texas, key to American security in World War II. Trump says he wants to buy it. He said it before. They said, what are you doing? And in art of the deal fashion, of course, now Denmark is spending an extra billion plus dollars
Starting point is 00:03:22 of investment in this huge colony and on their royal coat of arms or including Greenland imagery. And so, according to this logic, They are now pushing back and Trump is going to be better off than when he started, as in the case of Canada, when they started to patrol the border. And they clamped down on drugs and they said they renegotiate any asymmetrical tariffs. In the case of renaming the Gulf of Mexico, the Mexican president showed a map recently of the southwest of the United States being part of Mexico. That was her counter. That's kind of a bad troll because they rely on $63 billion of remittances. Remember, it's their largest source of foreign exchange.
Starting point is 00:04:11 So I don't think you should troll Trump. But the idea was that it was a message to Mexico that you have an imbalance. You're sending people here illegally $12 million in the last four years. You get remittances, $63 billion. 80,000 Americans have died per year. Fentanyl, you won't control it. So we're going to start to reexamine our entire message. So in the case of the Panama Canal, it's similar to Greenland and Canada and the Gulf of Mexico controversies.
Starting point is 00:04:45 The Chinese have intruded into an American domain. We built the canal. We operated effectively for one century. And Panama is now flirting with Chinese capital in a way that hurts our national interest because China's interest in the Panama Canal in times of crisis would be to shut it down and prevent our fleets from redeploying either east or west. We all know that. And so under Art of the Deal with all of these controversies, Panama, Greenland, Canada, the Gulf of Mexico, you get boisterous, you get excessive, you seem unstable, and then the other party negotiates
Starting point is 00:05:28 down in reasonable fashion and you end up better than you off. I just like to finish, though, there is one key element missing. Irony. Irony. So Donald Trump is saying to the Mexican government, if you look at the coastline of the Gulf of Mexico, 1,700 miles are U.S. coastline. 1,700 miles are Mexican coastline. Why is it called the Gulf of Mexico? But here's the key. And we are in an age of left-wing renaming things. We topple statues. We rename iconic buildings. We take away Woodrow Wilson.
Starting point is 00:06:05 We do everything. And according to your logic, it's time that you had the Gulf of Mexico for centuries, but we have the exact amount of coastline that you do. And we now are a convert for your idea of renaming things. In case of Greenland, Europeans are anti-colonious. You're always giving us lectures. This is a colony. New York City is closer to Greenland than is Copenhagen. And we defend it, and it's a North American territory.
Starting point is 00:06:34 So do you still want to play the imperial colonialist? Because you only react to your colonial people when you're pressured and you're endangering them. He's trying to tip the left-wing argument from Denmark, oh, the United States is a bully upside down. That you're the bully, you're the colonists. In the case of Canada, it's the same thing. You don't want us to intrude, but you want freebies. You want us to defend you while you pose as you're an anti-militaristic, left-wing, pacifistic, utopian society. But if you examine things, you would be scared to death about Chinese and Russian intrusion into your airspace or sea space if it wasn't for the United States.
Starting point is 00:07:22 So when you look at this, what Trump is saying is, I am using left-wing arguments. Colonialism, changing names, imperialism, inviting in communist autocratic governments that don't reflect the will of people in the case of China. And I'm flipping them and putting them in your face. And the whole point is to re-examine the status quo across the board. It's kind of an anti-woke argument, isn't it? Everything is up for grabs, and if the woke people think they can rewrite the history and traditions of the United States, maybe don't. Trump can too. Thank you so much for tuning in today.
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