The Daily Signal - Victor Davis Hanson: Trump Can Still Lead Without a Third Term
Episode Date: May 12, 2025Trump is sending a clear message: he's not going away quietly. “ If you read The Washington Post, even The Wall Street Journal, but especially The New York Times, the question is, can MAGA surv...ive after Trump steps down? “ There's arguments on both sides whether a popular movement can survive its creators. … Al Gore won the popular vote in 2000 to succeed him. And what did Barack Obama do? He repudiated Clintonism and the Democratic Leadership Council. And he went hard to the Left. And the result of that is we got a destroyed or an irrelevant Democratic Party.” 00:00 Introduction: Is Trump a Lame Duck? 00:23 Trump's Media Trolling and Third Term Speculation 01:29 Historical Context: Movements and Their Leaders 01:52 Reaganism and Its Aftermath 02:49 Clintonism and Obama's Shift 03:28 The Future of MAGA: DeSantis and Beyond 05:46 Conclusion: The Enduring MAGA Ideology Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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One of the most popular topics in the media is Donald Trump is now a lame duck,
even though he has basically a full term of four years.
But if you read the Washington Post, even the Wall Street Journal, but especially the New York Times,
the question is, can MAGA survive after Trump steps down?
If I were to decode that, it was, please, please, let's end these crazy MAGA people because Trump won't be around.
Donald Trump has been trolling the media.
In March, they ask him, would you like a third term?
No, you know, you can't do it.
But my lawyers are working on it.
They're looking at it.
Donald Trump was trolling and he knows what makes the left angry and confuses.
And the worst thing that they fear is the third term.
But he's saying, I'm going to be around.
I'm going to be a senior statesman.
Hello, this is Victor Davis Hansen for the Daily Signal.
You know, one of the most popular topics in the media is Donald Trump is now a lame duck,
even though he has basically a full term of four years.
But if you read the Washington Post, even the Wall Street Journal, but especially the New York Times,
the question is, can MAGA survive after Trump steps down?
In other words, if I were to decode that, it was, please, please, let's end these crazy MAGA people because Trump won't be around.
There's arguments on both sides whether a popular movement can survive its creators.
Obviously, the Tea Party from which MAGA drew a lot of its ideas, as well as the candidacy of Ron Paul, the three candidacies, I should say, did not survive, or it was incorporated or absorbed into MAGA, but it didn't survive because it didn't have a leader.
And when you look back at presidents of a party that have their own brand, Reaganism for one example, they usually do not survive the tenure of the original president.
even if the same party continues the administration. Ronald Reagan, he had a particular conservative
strain of republicanism that when he ran on two prior occasions, they said he wouldn't be elected.
He's too conservative. Yet when he stepped down, he proved that Reaganism was a very effective
political ideology. And what happened? His handpicked successor, George H.W. Bush,
almost as soon as he came into power, he said, read my lips, no new taxes. And he raised
taxes. And then remember what he said? He said, I want a kinder, gentler nation. Nancy Reagan,
the former First Lady, said, kinder and gentler than whom? Us, you know? So he didn't really
continue Reaganism. Bill Clinton hit upon, I think, partly with the input of Mark Penn, Dick Morris,
Doug Schoen, a centrist democratic way of government. Maybe it wasn't as centrist as we think,
but it was pretty left wing, but they were able to pass it off as centrist.
It was a winning formula.
Al Gore won the popular vote in 2000 to succeed him.
And what did Barack Obama do?
He repudiated Clintonism and the Democratic Leadership Council.
And he went hard to the left, and the result of that is we got a destroyed or an irrelevant Democratic Party.
So when Trump steps down, there's all of these arguments pro and con that,
MAGA will or will not survive. Ron DeSantis was a very effective, is a very effective governor. He had a
sweeping victory in 2022. He embraced the MAGA agenda. And his argument was, you can have MAGA,
but without the Trump legal liabilities, but he wasn't able to capture the popular imagination.
I'll leave you with one last thought. Donald Trump has been trolling the media. In March, he said,
They ask him, would you like a third term?
No, you know, you can't do it.
But my lawyers are working on it.
They're looking at it.
What he meant was the 22nd Amendment that was passed in 1951
right before the ascension of Dwight Aldienghauer,
no president shall be elected for more than two terms.
No president shall be elected twice.
That was a Republican reaction.
they controlled the Congress to the four terms of FDR.
It's kind of ironic because Dwight Eisenhower would have been elected a third time probably
and beat John F. Kennedy if he could have run third.
But his party had precluded that idea right before he became president.
A lot of presidents think about it.
Every successful president, the topic comes up.
It came up with Reagan.
It came up with Clinton.
Obama, remember, said I'd like to phone in a third term if I didn't have to do the work.
he also said he was lazy he confessed to that maybe that was why but here's my point
Trump was not serious at the time he just wanted to either troll the press and media or he wanted
to dispel the idea that he was a lame duck and just throw it out there that maybe he could be
president a third time because if you look at the language of the 22nd amendment doesn't say you
can't hold office twice it says you can't be elected perhaps he could get a vice president
he could run his vice president, the president could resign,
and then he would take over and hold office three times, but not be elected.
That was all fantasy. He was never going to do that. No voter would vote for a president to step down.
Here's my point again. Donald Trump was trolling, and he knows what makes the left angry and confuses,
and the worst thing that they fear is the third term. But just this May, just recently,
was asked that question again. He said, of course, I'm not going to run for a third term. And who's
going to be the standard bearer? I don't know. I don't want to pick them. But we have an obvious
vice president who's a firm believer in MAGA, and we have Marco Rubio, a successful secretary
of state who could also serve. But the point again is, he raised the question, will this
MAGA doctrine continue after I leave? Will there be sunshine after the sun is gone, in other words,
to use assembly. And he's saying, I'm going to be around. I'm going to be a senior statesman.
I'm going to endorse somebody, and I'm going to ensure that that person by the force of my
ex-presidency and influence shall abide by MAGA doctrines. So no, Donald Trump is not going to
seek a third term. And yes, I think the MAGA ideology of the Republican Party will stay
with us for the near future. Thank you very much. This is Victor Davis-Hanson for the Daily Signal.
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