The Daily Signal - Victor Davis Hanson: Ukraine, It’s Time to Make a Deal

Episode Date: February 15, 2025

Europe’s largest and deadliest war since 1945 needs to come to an end, argues Victor Davis Hanson in this edition of “Victor Davis Hanson: In His Own Words.” As rumors of peace talks between the... United States, Russia, and Ukraine spread, Hanson talks shop about the likely outcomes and why President Donald Trump is the only one who can end Europe’s bloodiest war since World War II: “What did Donald Trump do when he came in? He started giving offensive weapons to Ukraine. He killed 300 to 400 of the Wagner Group in Syria. Nobody had ever done that in the Cold War, killed that many Russians. He got out of an asymmetrical missile deal. He sanctioned the oligarchs at a higher level. He started flooding the world with cheap oil that could bankrupt Russia. He was the best friend that Ukraine ever had.”  For Victor’s latest thoughts, go to: https://victorhanson.com/   Don’t miss out on Victor’s latest videos by subscribing to The Daily Signal today. You’ll be notified every time a new video drops: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHqkXbgqrDrDVInBMSoGQgQ The Daily Signal cannot continue to tell stories like this one without the support of our viewers: https://secured.dailysignal.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 When Donald Trump came into office, he inherited a failed reset. That was the Geneva button that Hillary pushed. We were going to make Ukraine this Western EU-NATO partner in the doorstep of Russia, and then Russia would be absorbed by our wonderful agendas. There's never been any popular government under the Tsars or under the communist Soviets or under the Federation. It wasn't going to happen. What did Donald Trump do when he came in? He sanctioned the oligarchs at a higher level.
Starting point is 00:00:30 He started flooding the world with cheap oil to bankrupt Russia. He was the best friend that Ukraine ever had. Hello, this is Victor Davis Hansen for The Daily Signal. I'd like to talk about Ukraine. It's been in the news lately. There's the scent of a deal. And Donald Trump has become the archetypical dealmaker, he's said to the world, not just us, that he has talked and had a, with Vladimir Putin and had
Starting point is 00:01:11 a constructive conversation. At the same time, his team, General Kellogg, Marco Rubio, and Pete Hexap, there has been some commentary about the outlines of the deal, and it's exactly what everybody's been talking about, that Ukraine will not be in NATO, Ukraine will be armed and protected. There'll probably be a DMZ. The Donbass that was stolen 11 years ago by Putin, I'm not sure that's the right verb, absorbed. And Crimea, he can, it'll be institutionalized, but he'll have to go back to the February 24th invasion point. So what do both sides get out of it? Well, Ukraine says our heroic defense of Kiev saved the country. We've gone from 41 million to 28, we're going to get our population back. We proved to the world we stopped this Russian
Starting point is 00:02:08 juggernaut. We were never going to get back Donbass and Crimea. And there hadn't been one administration, not Barack Obama, not the first Trump administration, not the Biden administration prior to February of 2022, that ever said they were going to arm Ukraine with enough offensive weapons to militarily invade those areas and take them back. They were written off. Now, John Bolton said just the other day, well, this is crazy. You gave concessions away before the deal started. Does anybody in their right mind think about it? Does anybody in their right mind think that if Donald Trump had said to Vladimir Putin, well, Vladimir, we're going to have a deal, and I'll tell you what, we're going to put him a NATO. Oh, no, don't put him a NATO. I assure you're going to,
Starting point is 00:02:57 well, maybe we can deal. I might not put them. Everybody knows that there was no support in this country for them to be in NATO. And the reason was simple, for two reasons. Had they been in NATO, do we really think that somebody having Capuchino in Florence or in Amsterdam or in Barcelona when they heard that they were invaded by the Russians and the Russians were descending on Kiev, they were going to rush in with their M-16s and fight the Russians on behalf of Kiev. It was not going to happen. At Desjardin, we speak business. We speak startup funding and comprehensive game plans.
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Starting point is 00:04:03 Joe Biden would have said that is a NATO partner. We're going to invoke Article 3. They're under our nuclear shield. We're willing to risk Washington to save Kiev. No, that was not going to happen. So let's be realistic. We know the outlines of the deal. I want to say a couple of final things to put this all in particular.
Starting point is 00:04:21 perspective. Vladimir Putin invaded during the Obama administration because he thought that Russian reset under Hillary, Clinton, and Obama was rank appeasement, and he knew they wouldn't do anything. He invaded under Joe Biden and tried to decapitate Kiev because he knew that Biden had said our reaction would hinge on whether it was a minor invasion. And he knew that Joe Biden had suspended offensive weapons for Ukraine, and he saw what happened in Kabul. He invaded in 2008 into Alsatia and Georgia, because George W. Bush had said he looked in the eyes of Putin, he saw a soul, kindred soul, and he knew that the Bush administration was a lame duck and weakened by the Iraq and Afghanistan, imbroglius. Okay, he did not invade during Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:05:18 And we know why, because he thought Trump. was too unpredictable, too dangerous, and it wasn't worth it in a risk-to-benefit analysis. We should remember that. We should remember that it was Donald Trump's administration that he did not go into. We should remember one other thing to put this whole deal-making. And I wish John Bolton and Bill Crystal and everybody who's so critical would think about this. When Donald Trump came into office, he inherited a failed reset. That was the Geneva button that Hillary pushed.
Starting point is 00:05:52 And we were going to make Ukraine this Western EU-NATO partner in the doorstep of Russia, and then Russia would be absorbed by our wonderful agendas. There's never been any popular government under the Tsars or under the communist Soviets or under the Federation. That wasn't going to happen. What did Donald Trump do when he came in? He started giving the offensive weapons to. Ukraine. He killed three to four hundred of the Wagner group in Syria. Nobody'd ever done that in the Cold War killed that many Russians. He got out of an asymmetrical missile deal. He sanctioned the
Starting point is 00:06:31 oligarchs at a higher level. He started flooding the world with cheap oil to bankrupt Russia. He was the best friend that Ukraine ever had. He wasn't Putin's asset, Putin's puppet, as they said. This hatred of Donald Trump and this accusing him of appeasing Russia was very deleterious. It turned up in Russian collusion hoax, disinformation hoax, the alpha bank, ping ping, pong, all that hoax. Let's get real. There's going to be a deal based on what everybody expects. Is it going to be perfect? No.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Is it going to stop the greatest slaughter in Europe's in Stalingrad, maybe 1.6, dead, wounded, and missing on the aggregate in both sides? yes. So let's just calm down and let Donald Trump see if he can cut a deal that is satisfactory, not good, but satisfactory for both sides and stop the bloodletting. This is Victor Davis Hansen for the Daily Signal. Thank you for watching today's podcast. And for more news like that, subscribe to the Daily Signal. Maybe you can check out my own website at Victor Hansen. for podcast, lectures, ultra-series behind a paywall, but more importantly, just daily columns that are accessible and free to everyone. Thank you very much.

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