The Daily Signal - 'We're Being Overrun,' Arizona Lawmaker Says of Border Crisis

Episode Date: April 28, 2021

Rep. Paul Gosar, R-Ariz., says his state is being overwhelmed by the crisis at the southern border. "We're being overrun," Gosar tells The Daily Signal. "I mean, I was down in Yuma a week and a half ago, and we saw 'coyotes' just bring children over and just give themselves up. One 'coyote,' in the evening, she brought in two young boys, [ages] 7 and 10, and five girls, 11 to 17," he says. "None of them were related. They were being overwhelmed. And you saw the mayor of Gila County basically say they have 'no room at the inn.' They have run out of resources," the Arizona Republican adds. A "coyote" is a slang term for a person who smuggles illegal immigrants across the U.S.-Mexico border. Gosar also discusses Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey's recent announcement that he will deploy the National Guard to the border, as well as the political battle over an election audit in Maricopa County. We also cover these stories: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention releases new guidelines on mask-wearing during the pandemic.  John Kerry, President Joe Biden's special envoy for climate change, denies he disclosed secret information concerning Israeli military actions in Syria during a conversation with an Iranian official. Idaho lawmakers reject education programs that include critical race theory.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Gosar, it's great to have you with us. Thanks for having me, Rachel. Well, I wanted to talk about some news that's kicking it off today and will be a top of conversation. We'll talk a lot about immigration. to start off to talk about a little bit about election integrity. The state of Arizona is starting their election audit today. Can you tell us about what is going on in that process? Yeah, so we've gotten through all the lawsuits. Now they're in possession.

The state senate is in possession of the paper ballots and the machines. They had to be moved to the Coliseum. So they started their audit today. So we'll see, you know, particularly when troubling information came about with one audit for 100 random ballots showed 3% error rate. which was over 90,000 ballots in the county of Maricopa. When they did further 2,500 random duplicate ballots, they didn't even finish that.

And there was a rate of failure of 17%. That's a big number. And so there's every slick in the road, every rock in the road has been placed in front of them, but the audit starts today, and the facts will set you free. Well, also in Arizona news, but kind of moving to the immigration debate,

Arizona Governor Doug Ducey recently announced that he's deploying the National Guard to the state of Arizona, and he's declared a state of emergency because of what's happening at the border. Can you tell us about, in your perspective, what's happening and why he made this decision to do this? We're being overrun. I mean, I was down in Yuma a week and a half ago, and we saw coyotes just bring children over and just to give themselves up. One coyote in the evening, she brought in two young boys, seven and ten, and five girls, 11 to 17. None of them are related. They were being overwhelmed.

And you saw the mayor of Heila County basically say they have no room at the end. They run out of resources. And when you see these family units, all the workers for CBP, the Border Patrol have to be focused on those individuals. There's four to five times of people in custody that are supposed to be in custody. They're not complying with COVID. they're not testing for COVID. We have a national security. We have a humanitarian crisis.

We have a health care crisis. And the Biden administration, who's put Ms. Harris in charge of it now is not going to be coming to the border anytime soon. First time she's going to do something, go down to the Triangle countries in June. This is an epidemic. This is a crisis right now. And we need action. So I applaud Governor Ducey for doing that. But we're Arizona. We're not Texas. We don't have the same kind of resources. So we're going to have to demand from the federal government. They reimburse us for the money that we have to spend for our National Guard. Well, speaking of the crisis that you mentioned, Reuters had a report out recently that said that over a million migrants are expected to come through the country over the border from Mexico into the U.S. this year. Would you say this is unprecedented?

It is, particularly when we just talked about the highest month that we had. It was 172,000. just in March alone, with over 20,000 children, the highest number ever. And as I said, if we're catching only one out of every two crossing the border, because the invitation's been wide open. You know, we've caught people from Yemen that are on the terrorist watch list. We've caught people from almost every nationality coming across the border. A million or two million may be small in numbers, because if you're, if you're catching one out of every two, you're talking about 350,000 people that came in March alone.

Well, the Biden administration are asking ICE and CBP to stop using the term, illegal alien. What is your perspective of this and what do you think should happen? Should they be called that? What should they be called? They're illegal. They're aliens from another country. So from that standpoint, you know, the term matters. They're trying to make this so that once again, utilizing a term, redefining a term.

So it's more plausible and being accepted by people. They're running under the old Linsky rules. that basically says you pass on a word or a falsehood, and you say it enough people adopted as truth. Well, before we got started here, we were talking a little bit about the situation of the drug crisis at the border and even the rest of the country due to illegal immigration.

Can you tell us about how this crisis impacts the people of Arizona as well as beyond? Yeah, so as these family units are detaining all the, and occupying all the border patrols attention, we're in the east of the mules now bringing through large dumps of the drugs. In fact, one confiscation last week, fentanyl, is more than was confiscated all of last year under the border. Just one. We're coming off of COVID where we've had higher incidents of drug overdoses, suicide, domestic violence. So all we're doing is we're empowering the

cartels to have operational control of the border. No one crosses that border without the cartels knowing it. And so what we're now is, is we're complicit with aiding and abetting the cartels in human smuggling, because these people never get away from this. Once you're part of the cartel under their eruption, never get away. Number two is now the drug aspects are just coming across fast and furiously. I use that with pun intended. But it's coming right and left. And, you know, we're harboring all this and we're not following the rule of law. And then Congress is making it worse by putting forward amnesty bills when we're allowing people to violate our law. Go past go collect $200 to become a citizen when the people waiting in line there are the

better way to look at. Are there any stories from your Arizona constituents about how they have been impacted or harmed by the cartels in your home state? You know, I can tell you right now Heelabend, the city that doesn't have a lot of resources. Their mayors, they're, their mayors up in arms. He can't, they have no resources to take care of these people and they're being just dropped off right and left. You're starting to see some counties around the country that are saying, listen, nope, we're not taking these individuals. But as I stated, we were there a week and a half ago. We saw the coyotes bringing children across, giving themselves up. We watched them planed early morning across the way at the bridge and the resources are just not there. So they're not even

being able to inventory, finger fingerprint them, do DNA samples. They're just turning them loose. Putting them on buses, if they can get a bus ride where they can go. Some of these kids have bracelets and these bracelets are people identifying them where they'll be picked up in the United States and taken somewhere else. Once again, probably to have a life service. What are the constituents, your constituents in Arizona saying about what is happening at the border right now? What are you hearing from them? They're in up in arms because they see the degradation not only in the environment, the trash is coming, the proliferation of human trafficking and exploitation.

I mean, how can you look at yourself in the mirror when you know this is going on? When you know the cartels know that this is part of their business model and to actually extort children and pass that child around. How can you look at yourself in the eyes and say, this is a condone practice? So they're up in arms. We're a country. A country is defined by defendable borders. A country has the ability to say how many people come in and how many the exit in a given time frame.

And we're always known as the rule of law, where equal application of the law was very important. Here we see a degradation of the rule of law. And therefore, one group gets precedence over another. That's totally wrong. And they're up in arms about it. Do Arizona residents, do they feel safe? Well, I mean, that's one of the reasons why you see the Second Amendment so prominent here. I mean, particularly when you go along the borders to the ranchers that I've been around.

You know, they have them running right and left. The Second Amendment is a big deal to people here because if you're waiting on law enforcement in many of these places, you're going to be a story with a report. That's it. So they defend themselves. So from that standpoint, we're being overrun. And they also see this government trying to put a curb on their way of self-defense, the Second Amendment. And they want to have that inherently built as one of their principles, freedom of speech and freedom of the Second Amendment to defend it.

What needs to be done to turn this crisis at this border around? What do you think needs to happen? Well, we didn't have this problem with Donald Trump at the end of his term. you know, he ended hold in Mexico until your asylum charges can be adjudicated. Even the president of Mexico has alluded to this, saying this is out of control. He's got problems over there with the Mexican side aspects. But we saw a mere trickle of people coming across here. Now, you know, once again, is Article 42 in regards to the COVID pandemic.

You know, and if you're from Mexico, you return to Mexico immediately. It doesn't matter if your children, family, you go back to Mexico. Mexico. So there's some very easy things to do, but you got to love this country more than you hate Donald Trump. What are you hearing from law enforcement, so sheriff's sheriff's deputies, others in your state about the situation at hand. I know CVUP mainly deals with the migrants crossing the border, but a lot of these local sheriffs do have to address the situation when a way or another impacts them as well. So what are you hearing from them? They're overrun. Once again, they have limited resources, limited cells. They're trying their best. But once again,

Again, it comes down to the contract that the federal government had with the states that they were supposed to defend the borders of this country and making sure that the things got done accordingly. Now, some of the things that I think are coming, I think you're going to see the wall start coming back being built. And part of that is that Congress authorized the wall to be built. And the executive branch is forced to adjudicate that. And I think the courts will see it that way. so you may be able to see the wall being built again. But we just got to get back to that common sense aspect of following the rule of the law. They're already on the books, not changing it, not doing it because you hated the previous administration.

But that also tells you what this administration wants. They're on a fast track to tearing this country apart and not only from its immigration laws, but the lack of enforcement of laws. And then looking at D.C. statehood today and looking at the second, amendment, putting curbs and taxes on second amendments, and then, you know, spend our spending into oblivion. Well, last the Congressman goes to start, what kind of risk does the country run if this immigration crisis isn't turned around? Well, then what we were told were 11 million illegals in the shadows. We're going to talk about 40 million people in the shadows. And there'll be a big

push to legalize them, let them come out, like DACA individuals. And you're going to, you have a whole different analogy of a country. You have more people dependent upon the federal government, which is exactly what the left wants. They need people dependent upon the federal government. Remember, you can't hire an illegal. They're not getting Social Security, they're not getting benefits here.

So somehow, some way, they're violating the law here. And if you don't like the law, change the law, but don't just don't override it. So our fundamental concept, in numerous fronts, the rule of law, the integrity of this country, sovereign borders, invalidating the way we have proper immigration processes in this country, they're all invalid. And then the other thing we're doing is we're also providing cheap labor, cheaper labor, to the big platforms and stuff like that.

There's programs out there like the OPT program, which incentivizes these big corporations to bring in foreign workers that they pay much less and that they get a 15. percent discount. That's the withholding taxes on behalf of the big employers. That's what goes to our Social Security and Medicare. And isn't an interesting that Medicare is now insolvency is moved in and moved up to 2024. They're not paying their fair share. And this is all being done at the expense of the American citizen. Well, Congressman Gossar, thank you for being with us on the Daily Signal. It's great having you with this. Thanks, Rachel. And that'll do it for today's episode. Thanks for listening to the Daily Signal podcast.

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