The Daily Zeitgeist - 1 Middle Aged Guy vs 3 Teens? Dem Mummies 05.02.25

Episode Date: May 2, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 That was pretty cool. What do you call that? Hey man. Whoa. It's pretty cool. Whoa. Like a little, I don't know where it came from. Nido.
Starting point is 00:00:10 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. The little cube. Little cube. Oh nice. It's like a little stress toy that I got from my kids. Yep. Yeah. My nephews and nieces have those.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Then now it's, you go, where's daddy's, where's daddy's? You mean the needle? You mean the needle? Yeah. You mean the Yep. Yeah. My nephews and nieces have those. Then now it's, you go, where's daddy's, where's daddy's, you mean the needle you got me? Bring daddy's cube. Wow. You squeeze daddy alone. He's with his cube. Daddy to the cube. All hail cube. Yeah. You just become a fucking Borg. Leave daddy to his cube. I want you to ask yourself right now, how am I actually doing? Because it's a question that we rarely ask ourselves.
Starting point is 00:01:02 All of May is actually mental health awareness month. And on the psychology of your twenties, we are taking a vulnerable look at why mental health is so hard to talk about. Prepare for our conversations to go deep. I spent the majority of my teenage years, my 20s just feeling absolutely terrified. I had a panic attack on a conference call. Knowing that she had six months to live, I was no longer pretending that this was my best friend. So this Mental Health Awareness Month, take that extra bit of care of your well-being. Listen to the psychology of your 20s on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and my latest interview is with Michelle Obama. To whom much is given, much is expected. The guilt comes from am I doing enough? Me, Michelle Obama, to say that to a therapist. So let's unpack that. Having been the first lady of the entire country and representing the country and the world, I couldn't afford to have that kind of disdain. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
Starting point is 00:02:03 you get your podcasts. It's nostalgia overload as Wilmer Valderrama and Freddy Rodriguez welcome another amigo to their podcast, Dose Amigos. Wilmer's friend and former That 70s Show castmate, Topher Grace stops by the Speakeasy for a two-part interview to discuss his career and reminisce about old times. We were still in that place of like,
Starting point is 00:02:22 what will this experience become? And you go, you're having the best time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was like such a perfect golden time. Listen to Dos Amigos on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Sam Mullins, and I've got a new podcast coming out called Go Boy.
Starting point is 00:02:39 The gritty true story of how one man fought his way out of some of the darkest places imaginable. Roger Caron was 16 when first convicted. Has spent 24 of those years in jail. But when Roger Caron picked up a pen and paper, he went from an ex-con to a literary darling. From Campside Media and iHeart Podcasts, listen to Go Boy on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet and welcome to season 386 episode five of DirtHeadlies. Hi, guys.
Starting point is 00:03:20 It's a production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it's Friday, May 2nd, 2025. consciousness and it's Friday, May 2nd, 2025. Arr May 2. Five, two, two, five? Can you say May T? May two? Arr, Yar May two. No. Maybe it's May three.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Arr May three. Yar May three. Now that sucks too. Five, two, two, five. Not gonna happen again until for another 157 years Wow Yeah, how about that? 57 wait why what I so a 5 2 and then a 2 5 you got the numbers reverse. Oh Shit, okay
Starting point is 00:03:58 Sorry exactly. Yeah shit That's fine and that's fine.. And that's fine. Look. Alright, but we make it. Could happen again next year. Could happen. Very possible. What is that you say? School lunch hero day. National space day. Life insurance day.
Starting point is 00:04:18 And national truffle day. Not the thing that the pigs snored up from the ground to put on fine dining. We're talking about the chocolates that got the shit inside that kind of trophy shout out that kind of they should have both that and macarons macaroons both baffling naming decisions too close to one another you know for things very different well like a macaron like a coconut Well like a macaroon like a coconutty one? Yeah, macaroon is coconutty I think and macaroon is the little uh jelly sandwich. Yeah. Little French jelly sandwich.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Yeah, yes, yes, yes. Well, make up your mind France or Italy or whoever did that. Yeah, Yeah. My name is Jack O'Brien, AKA, Cats Drink Wine. It makes them purr. Please live forever. Cats Drink Wine. That one courtesy of Kristy Omeguchi, man, on the Discord. I tried that shit on a call this morning where someone was talking about their cat and I was like, you know, I was on a Podcast yesterday with man gosh everybody trust man gosh He said that if you feed your cat wine the cats gonna live a long time
Starting point is 00:05:34 And they both did not believe me and then fact-checked me and were like Google says do not give your cat alcohol And and and I don't know how quickly I replied said, Google also said Gouda cheese was the most consumed cheese on the planet. I had to get in my anti-science bag. I'm like, wine is good for cats. Okay. I need to believe that. I need something like that. I need to find that research.
Starting point is 00:05:52 I need to do my own research until that's true with RFK. I love that shit. It's like, yeah, I need to do my own research on that one. Rather than accepting something that's not good for cats. I need to find that research. I need to do my own research until that's true with RFK. I love that shit. It's like, yeah, I need to do my own research on that one.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Rather than accepting something that's not good for cats. I need to find that research. I need to do my own research until that's true with RFK. I love that shit. It's like, yeah, I need to do my own research on that one. Rather than accepting something that's not good for cats. I need to find that research. I need to do my own research until that's true. I love that. It is like, yeah, I need to do my own research on that one. Rather than accepting some facts. We're going to be doing our own research. As you open a bottle of wine, just hold on.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Let me figure this one out myself. Because I see an IG account where cats are drinking wine every day, or at least posing with wine. And they look classy as fuck. Mm-hmm. God, can you imagine the red wine mustache that's happening with cats though? On the first. Be so fucking adorable.
Starting point is 00:06:32 So fucking adorable. Hey, speaking of so fucking adorable, I'm thrilled to be joined by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Hey, it's Miles Gray AKA, let's sorry y'all. I'm about to get Christian all you on you. Trump, they lift your name on high Don't they love to sing your praises
Starting point is 00:06:56 Even though you fucking up our lives And your actions always shame us Satan sent you to earth to cause us pain your name kind of looks like across the cult to say okay that's oh man my school uniform was starting slowly starting to regenerate on my skin. Shout out to David Lesser on the discord for that one look you got you got me with that my K through 12 Christian education that song is always here. Thanks for that one I don't even know that song but You don't know where I left your name on I don't know Lord I left your name They say you don't know Eagles wings. I do I mean shit come well, you know Eagles wings, but you don't know Tim up Donald Trump Trump, the king.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Thank you. Everybody in the chat is like, yes, trauma. Christian trauma. Please stop. Yeah, please stop, please stop, please stop. Please don't say, were you there when they? Do you know that one? Yeah, were you there? Were you there, Lord?
Starting point is 00:07:59 How are you missing this from your catalog of traumatic earworms? I guess I blocked it out. Good for you. Maybe it's earworms. I was, I guess I blocked it out. Good for you. Maybe it's just like not Catholic. Cause I was, I was strictly Catholic. Yeah. That might be more like, you know, for the Protestant Lutheran. Southern Baptist here.
Starting point is 00:08:14 We also had that. You heard that one? Yeah. I think it might just be the Catholics. Yeah. On one of their papal decrees were like, and we shall not have this one song because it does not slap. Yeah. On one of their papal decrees, we're like, and we shall not have this one song because it does not slap. Yeah. Anyways, shout out to David Lesser, more like David Moore.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third. It was a bit of a tongue twister. Thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our faves, the creator of Red Dot Comics. You can go to the Patreon right now to support and gain access to her tastefully inappropriate work. Please welcome back to the show, it's Kim Winder. Kim. Hi.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Traumatized Idaho edition, Kim Winder. Idaho edition. Nice. Yes. Yes. Currently sitting. All those songs also are seared into your brain, whether you like it or not. Oh my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:08 We went to church every Wednesday, Friday and Sunday. Oh, fall. Wednesday, Friday and Sunday? My family- Holy shit. Yeah. How long was your church? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Holy shit. Yeah. Two to three hours. God damn. And then my family even volunteered to do like vacation Bible school. The best part of that is the fucking snacks. I love snack time at vacation Bible school. Everything else was bullshit. But yeah, we were at church a lot. What's vacation Bible school? Like when you're on vacation, you're actually going to Bible school? Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:40 When you're not in actual school, you get to go to church and learn about God even more. And is that where they taught you how to draw butt plugs? Yes, actually, the pastor took me in this room privately. I know. I know. The man growing up Catholic, I thought Catholic church was as bad as it got. And then going to Protestant Church, Catholic Church is over in an hour, unless it's a real bad one,
Starting point is 00:10:13 unless it's like you catch a stray baptism, in which case it can get up to an hour and 15 minutes. And those felt like... Catch a stray baptism. Sometimes they do a baptism and it would be like five adults. And I'm just like, I don't- Oh, y'all. Guys, come on, do this on your own time.
Starting point is 00:10:31 This is embarrassing. But like going to Protestant churches, like, you know, with my wife who grew up Protestant or, you know, just other, you know, my kids go to a Episcopalian school and like, that shit is so long, it's crazy. And like sometimes it can be like an hour and a half to like two and a half, like it's just open-ended, floating, sometimes it just goes and goes. And they wonder why people are losing religion.
Starting point is 00:11:01 I know. Just like going like, oh my God. I mean, I fucking 20 I mean, 20 years ago, I was 20, so I mean, 30 years ago as a kid, I was like my eyes were rolling the back of my head constantly after like 40 minutes. Dude. Well, it goes on forever.
Starting point is 00:11:17 I listened to last podcast on the left, I think either Ed or Henry said it, but pastors are just failed comedians. So if they're on a good one, they just go and go and go. Yeah. Nobody's giving them the light, you know? Yeah. In the back.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Somebody will. He will one day. Yeah, yeah. He will. He will one day give us all the light of the Lord. Well, Kim, we're thrilled to have you back. We are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:11:47 We're going to talk about the Democrats and where they're at. Trump is at an all-time unpopular for a president 100 days into their administration. And somehow the Democrats are less popular. You'd think that'd be good news for the Democrats and people are still like, no, we'd still take this over. Uh, whatever the fuck you guys have to do something. Yeah. That that's how bad the Biden administration was.
Starting point is 00:12:13 So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about egg prices. We'll talk about AI and we'll talk about the continuing outward ripples from the Continuing outward ripples from the 100 men versus one gorilla On his late night show has decided to challenge three children to a fight That sounds like a fair fight. Honestly, I mean but 14 year olds which feels like I kind of money on the 14 year olds, which feels like I kind of have money on the 14 year olds. Yeah, if they're 14. I was thinking like eight, nine.
Starting point is 00:12:48 I would love to see kindergartners take like 14 year olds from the eighties or these new 14 year olds. They're 14 year olds. They're eating. He put an email at the end was like 14 year olds email me with your parents consent. But anyway, I got a cousin that will fuck him up. Yeah, yeah, I feel like this could go badly. Anyways, we'll talk about all of that plenty more.
Starting point is 00:13:09 But first, we do like to ask our guest, Kim, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? How to do stand-up comedy. That was my last search. I did my first open mic on Monday. Nice. Did you post a clip from that? I did.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I got heckled like two minutes in. Like first time ever and it was the fucking bartender. I'm like, do you want me back or not? Yeah, but it went well, I thought. But joke writing is a lot harder when you have to do it alone. It's easy to be funny in conversation, but standing up there alone,
Starting point is 00:13:50 I had no idea, so I Googled it. So I Googled it. Is that how that was supposed to go? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Consensus is yeah. Google AI got you some valuable insight? No. No, not at all. No.
Starting point is 00:14:04 It's like, think of something relatable. Oh, not at all. No. It's like, think of something relatable. Oh, God. Okay. Hell yeah. That's really good advice. Well, jokes on me because it was at a dive bar and I was talking about being a Disney adult. So I'm telling all of these very ragged old men, a Disney adult is someone that likes
Starting point is 00:14:22 to buy Disney a lot and faces their personality and they're looking at me like fucking nuts And then the bartender chimes in yeah, I shat wall Disney's toilet. No, you didn't I That was the heckle you got yes Such a thing that's late I don't know the very like narcissistic would be like alright And I want to say something that not only would shut this person down, but then would turn all the attention to me because it demands five follow-up questions.
Starting point is 00:14:52 All right, he got my attention. Yeah. Funny story, actually, is essentially what his heckle was. Funny story, actually, I shat in Walt Disney's toilet. He went to Club 33. He thought he got into Walt's private apartment. I'm like, no, you didn't. You're a felino. No, you didn't.
Starting point is 00:15:13 I haven't shat in Disney's toilet. Yeah. Please. Exactly. I think they check it's a race-based toilet, if it's Walt Disney's too. I'm sure he'll miss. Pure-blooded Aryans defecate upon his golden toilet or whatever the fuck he took a dump in.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Yeah. Well, that's good. Congratulations. I'm glad it went well. So are you going to be back for more? I might try it again. I didn't cry. So that was a positive. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe. I'm not sure. It's more of just being confident in front of a physical audience because you guys know being online, it's a lot easier to brush something off when you're not looking someone in the face.
Starting point is 00:15:53 So Tim, we are constantly terrified even doing this on Zoom. Yeah. It's a lot. But I can just turn off the computer and walk away. I don't have to make eye contact with them for the rest of the night. Sure, sure, sure. No, I get that. What is something you think is underrated? Mashed potatoes. Underrated. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:18 As just you think they're more versatile, just more delicious than people give them credit for? Yeah. Where do they rank? I think they're more versatile, just more delicious than people give them credit for? Yeah. Where do they rank? I think they're top potato. You're saying underrated because we're emphasizing what, the fry too much? I think so. I think we're getting too fancy with potatoes.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Being in Idaho brought me closer to the potato. You can just throw butter and salt and that's good shit. It doesn't need anything else. People gussy it up too much. So mashed potatoes underrated. A lot of butter. If you really want to really get a fucking lot of butter,
Starting point is 00:16:56 like enough that there are people like, are you okay? And I'm like, yeah, you okay? Because this shit is delicious. Why don't you worry about yourself? Yeah. You okay? Because this shit is delicious. When you worry about yourself. Yeah. Yeah. No one just makes a bowl of mashed potatoes as they should. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Yeah. I did that. Just sit down with the movie. Three nights ago, I had a bag of potatoes that like, one started to sprout a little, you know, a little eye out of it. And I was like, all right, I got to cook these straight. Yeah. Just right away.
Starting point is 00:17:22 I was like, maybe I can roast them. I'm like, no, dude, I want to eat a big ass bowl of mashed potatoes. And I did it and my life is better. Exactly. You don't even need gravy. It's just comfort filling easy. Yeah. Mashed potatoes are underrated.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Where are we on the KFC big bowl? Where like mashed potatoes, sort of the base that you're working off of. I loved it. I've been suicidal at one point in my life, but never that sad to have one. KFC BigBull. A dark experience that is also like kind of worth it. That's the thing. I know it's great.
Starting point is 00:18:03 It's just, I can't look at myself in the eye, you know, right? Right. It almost feels like yeah Like probably the reason I never did heroin. I was like I've got it close But part of you is like it ain't it just ain't calling me like that And I feel like if it did it would be all bad. It would be all bad. I did feel like Like William Burroughs talking about heroin was where I was like, it's dark, it's a dark experience, but it's actually worth trying. Just once. Take you down a road that you have to go down
Starting point is 00:18:32 at least once in your life. Yeah, make it lunch indeed. Yeah, I haven't tried that monstrosity where it's the fried chicken, cheese, bacon, fried chicken. What was it? Oh, the double-doub? Yeah, that thing. Yeah, yeah fried chicken. What was it? It was a sandwich. Yeah, that thing.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Yeah, yeah. Have you guys tried it? No. I can't bring myself to. That one just seems gimmicky to me. But the mashed potato bowl, like, always made sense to me. I was like, yeah, no, this is something I would make at home, you know, it's basically what I did with Thanksgiving leftovers for my family.
Starting point is 00:19:07 So why not? It makes total sense. And I think because my family's Southern, KFC is just like an abomination of fried chicken. So that I do have a bias. So that probably goes into it. Yeah. What's your favorite fried chicken? Honestly, it is Ralph's. What's your favorite fried chicken? Honestly, it is Ralph's.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Ralph's grocery store fried chicken is really good. Hell yeah. Yeah. So California grocery chain has probably some of the best fried chicken I've had. That's not my Mimos. So. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Yeah. Bad day, fried chicken, mashed potatoes, couch. Ralph's is Kroger. I'm. Fried chicken, mashed potatoes, couch. Well, Ralph's is Kroger. I'm wondering if Kroger elsewhere has good fried chicken, or if it's just something about Ralph. Oh, yeah. How is it up by you anywhere else?
Starting point is 00:19:56 We don't have Ralph's. I'm on the border of California and Nevada. So we have a Rayleigh's and it looks just like Ralph's logo, but it's different. I think it's privately owned. Yeah, that's not even a name. They just made that shit up. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:20:15 Rayleigh's? Yeah, that's Rayleigh. Rayleighotas? It's just as expensive as Ralph's, but different. They don't have Kroger brands. Um, I don't know what their brand name is. Their store brand. Zyke gang, let us know what is the best grocery store chicken. Because I do agree.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I mean that and pavilions, pavilions, when you get a fresh, fresh batch of pavilions fried chicken too, yes. That and their donuts. Holy fuck. When I lived in Orange County, our pavilions made donuts every morning. They were like still hot and a little greasy from the fryer. Oh, my God. If maybe they fry the chicken in the donuts.
Starting point is 00:20:55 That could be. Maybe they fry the donuts in the chicken. Oh, my God. KFC, are you listening? Yeah, I know. KFC, Krispy Kreme collab. It's like, yeah, we brought over the fryer oil from a KFC, are you listening? Yeah, I know. KFC, Krispy Kreme collab. It's like, yeah, we brought over the fryer oil from a KFC to fuck up these donuts over here. Just bring in a weed brand and I'd never get anything done again.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Wow. What is something that you think is overrated? Idaho. Idaho? Idaho. I'm going to just be honest here that outside of Idaho, not super highly rated, but just putting that out there.
Starting point is 00:21:31 What's overrated about Idaho? It's beautiful, but there's nothing here, but I keep hearing people, yeah, I'm moving to Idaho, it's cheaper. It's not that cheaper and you're really isolated. Even Boise is really small I don't think it's as big as like or as big as Reno and Reno is pretty tiny So it's just not it for me. Yeah I remember there was like a family on tik-tok that's like real escaping California to Idaho and then they're like it's been hell for
Starting point is 00:22:02 We're escaping California to Idaho. And then they're like, it's been hell for us. Yeah. Reno, which is thought of like that. They made a whole comedy series about how like po-dunk the force would be there. And they're still mad about it. Yeah. You wear Reno 911 shirt.
Starting point is 00:22:22 They'd like, like that might get you fucked up in a bar. Yeah, the guy that played Officer Dangle, Dongle, short short guy. He actually went to Reno right before the election with The Daily Show. And it was very interesting because there was some side eyes like, what is that motherfucker doing here? They didn't film in Reno. They filmed in Colorado, but everyone is mad about Reno because it's very accurate Yeah, all right, so Boise a glorified piss-stop on the way to Reno is what you're saying Stay out of not any of the zeit game if If you're listening in Idaho, Boise,
Starting point is 00:23:06 I'm not talking about you. No. It's everyone else. Of course not. All the other people. All right. Let's take a quick break. And when we come back, we'll get into some news.
Starting point is 00:23:15 We'll be right back. Hey, my name is Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose. I just had a great conversation with Michelle Obama. To whom much is given, much is expected. The guilt comes from am I doing enough? Me, Michelle Obama, to say that to a therapist. So let's unpack that. Former First Lady Michelle Obama and someone who knows her best, her big brother, Craig,
Starting point is 00:23:43 will be hosting a podcast called IMO. What have been your personal journeys with therapy? We need to be coached throughout our lives. My mom wanted us to be independent children. And she would always tell me, stop worrying about your sister. Having been the first lady of the entire country and representing the country and the world, I couldn't afford to have that kind of disdain.
Starting point is 00:24:09 What would you say has been the most hardest recent test of fear? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's nostalgia overload as Wilmer Valderrama and Freddy Rodriguez welcome another amigo to their podcast Dos Amigos. you get your podcast. It's nostalgia overload as Wilmer Valderrama and Freddie Rodriguez welcome another amigo to their podcast dose amigos
Starting point is 00:24:29 Wilmer's friend and former that 70 show castmate Topher grace stops by the speakeasy for a two-part interview to discuss his career and reminisce about old times. We were still in that place of like what will this experience become and you go you're having the best time. But it was like such a perfect golden time. Listen to dos amigos on the I heart radio app Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:24:52 And the dream season is now complete the Golden State Warriors of the 2015 NBA champion on the new limited podcast series dub dynasty it's been 10 years since their shocking run to a championship we examine the controversial move that made it possible. It's never a great conversation as a player when you hear that you're being benched. For the entire behind the scenes story of Golden State's incredible 10 year run, listen to Dubb Dynasty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:25:29 On November 5th, 2018, at 6.33 a.m., a red Volkswagen Golf was found abandoned in a ditch out in Sleephole Valley. The driver's seat door was open. No traces of footsteps leaving the vehicle. No belongings were found, except for a cassette tape lodged in the player. On that tape were ten vile, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, God, oh my God. Horrific stories that to this day have been kept restricted from the public. Until now.
Starting point is 00:26:11 No! No way! You feeling this too? A horror anthology podcast. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. And so Democrats, probably watching all the negativity around Trump's first hundred days, licking their chops, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:43 If you're James. Like this is this guy fucking stinks. Yeah. I think we're probably in a good position here for the next election. Next eight years? Yeah. Is it whatever it's going to be? Some polling has come out where they ask people not just like, man, how is Trump doing?
Starting point is 00:27:02 But also ask people, and like, do you think you would rather have the Democrats in charge and some, a bracing splash of cold water to the face? I would say to the Democrats. I mean, more than like, who would you rather? I think it's the most damning assessment is sort of like, fuck, Mary, kill situation. That was how the poll was structured. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:25 But like, it was basically saying like, you know, how well do you think they're doing? Are there, what's their job at resisting? So first off, 83% of Democrats and Democrat leaning independents say it is extremely or very important that Democratic elected officials push hard against Trump's policies. And they say, okay, how well are they doing? Seventy four percent say they're only doing a fair or poor job, mostly poor in terms of pushing hard against Trump's policies and agenda. So really low marks in terms of being like the one thing, you know, can you do?
Starting point is 00:28:01 Can you be opposition? No, not really. I mean, now things are starting to happen and only now because there's a little bit more of a formalized, like opposition within the Democratic Party that Trump is finally hitting some speed bumps. But the first two months was truly like he had carte blanche to just do whatever the fuck you want. Silence. Yeah. And so there is. So I was referring to this other poll that
Starting point is 00:28:26 Him from CNN was talking about where they asked people Who do you think is doing like if they ran tomorrow like Trump versus? Generic Democrat or I think they actually did it against Harris who would be doing better right now And he still won like in that even after these first hundred days. Then they asked, who do you trust more on, uh, main us problems to like handle it. And Donald Trump got 40% versus Democrats in Congress who got 32%. So still very unpopular, still got a problem there. Uh, there's your problem that you're going to look at. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:04 The big thing being change, fucking switch it up. You know what I mean? Abandon the status quo, like actually advocate for shit that people are that can they can feel tangibly rather than like the promise of something. Yeah, where the fuck are they? I know AOC and Bernie have been on tour, but besides that, I haven't heard shit from them. Yeah. They did start a chant at one point that we will win. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was very vague so as not to offend or over promise on any front. Yeah, in hushed tones.
Starting point is 00:29:39 It's interesting because this is all happening against the backdrop where we're seeing more and more people begin to openly question the leadership of the Democratic Party, run against incumbents that won't let go of the status quo. And David Hogg, who first became sort of entered the spotlight when he was a survivor of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas shooting in Parkland, Florida, he is now like has a position as one of the vice chairs at the DNC. He is actually running a group that is starting to go after the fossils in the Democratic Party His he said his organization leaders we deserve will focus on challenging more than a dozen Democratic incumbents in the next election cycle Currently, he said quote we're looking at over 12 districts But there's a lot of nuance that comes with that number because there's going to be a lot of people who retire. As we saw with Jan Schakowsky recently, it was more and more people
Starting point is 00:30:29 started to enter that race to primary hers. She was like, yeah, you know what? I'm probably going to retire as you should, because you know, if you spent a long time there, you just, you can rest now. How far to the left David will be pushing is yet to be fully understood, but at a minimum, he sees that this crop of Democrats have neither the will nor the skill to effectively fight back anything Trump does. So that's a starting point for sure.
Starting point is 00:30:54 I feel like they're phoning it in and they're going to hold on to their insider trading until they fucking die. Like Dianne Feinstein. Yeah. Like she wasn't running the show, but she was in her spot until her literal death day. I think they all are going to do that unless they get pushed out. And good on that fucking kid. He's just been an active voice since the shooting.
Starting point is 00:31:17 And poor guy. From his perspective, he came on the scene and be like, gun control? Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. And all the time, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, gun control, oh, uh, gun control. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. And all the time like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, gun control, gun control, gun control. And nothing has happened. Yeah. So he cleared, I mean, his, his perspective too.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I mean, obviously he is, he's concerned about a number of issues, but that's a thing that many people who vote for Democrats are like, you guys have been talking about this shit, like you're going to do it for like not doing 40 fucking years. Like when are you going to codify Roe? When are you going to where's the real gun control? Where what are we going to do about DACA and Dreamers? What are you going to do about the minimum wage? You're always like, yeah, we're going to raise the minimum wage when politically, you know, advantageous for us, which we just kind of need to raise the possibility to keep getting votes.
Starting point is 00:32:03 So the mood right now on the Hill is pretty split. Like the younger, more progressive members of the party are seeing their opportunity to mount a proper challenge to the mummified remains of the party. While the mummies that are still there, open periodically open their sarcophagi and mutter a little pro mummy type opinions like this one congressman put it this way, quote, we have a large number of young people in the Democratic caucus and I would challenge anybody to stand toe to toe with Nancy Pelosi,
Starting point is 00:32:32 Maxine Waters, Jim Clyburn, Steny Hoyer, all in their mid or above mid 80s. Yeah. Try to withstand their immense institutional power that they have accumulated to remain in power and destroy any incoming challenges. I dare you to stand toe to toe with these 80 year olds and handle that breath. The thing is, we're not fucking ageist because Bernie is still out there more eloquent than Biden and Trump and he's doing the right fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:33:06 It's just in some cases they're they're greedy. They're just greedy. And they're hiding behind the facade of equality because I I'm jaded by all of them. Yeah. I mean, they're unwilling to relinquish power in service of something that is much more beneficial to everybody else in the country. And I think, again, that's I think how most people I'm glad, you know, like I see these I'm hoping that a lot of these polls aren't just sort of like I'm fully off politics in general.
Starting point is 00:33:35 It's like I'm fully off what these people are offering. Offer something different and ask me again. And maybe I will say, OK, okay, I like where they're heading, but I think, like most polls, this is a reflection of what is on offer from the Democratic Party and what their base is saying. And I think they have to really look at that and stop saying shit like I see in so many of these articles
Starting point is 00:33:57 about younger people trying to challenge. Some of you were like, that's just Twitter stuff, and you got to ignore that. And it's like, it's not, it's not. You're mischaracterizing what people are saying outside of just the actual hallways of the Capitol and reducing that to being Twitter stuff, quote unquote, so you can be dismissive of the actual concerns people have. Yeah. It's actually heartening now that I moved to Reno, a smaller town, it perceived conservative.
Starting point is 00:34:26 People are fucking in the streets. In Carson City, Nevada, there's hundreds of people protesting and it's every day. So it isn't Twitter anymore. It is literally conservative small town people are fucking fed up and they've always been there. It's just the louder, powerful, older people brush it off. And it's just getting to a point where they can't fucking do that anymore.
Starting point is 00:34:51 And I think they're really going to realize to the problem that they have when you when we like there's all these cuts that they're proposing like Medicaid and snap cuts. When that shit comes to pass, the reaction from people is going to be unlike anything you've ever seen. And I think that's the part two where people are kind of living, or at least politicians are kind of living in this abstract thing where it's like, they'll figure it out. It's like these are literal lifelines for people, like their food and their healthcare.
Starting point is 00:35:19 And you think by just like snapping that away, they'll just figure it out and be like, well, it's for America first reasons. No, they're going to say I have no food to put on my table. And now you're going to be dealing with a completely other set of issues. But again, I think that's really the next sort of event that I think a lot of people are waiting to see as it relates to how quickly people will turn on Trump. Because like the empty shelves thing, you're hearing a lot of people talking like there was a report today about how like the last ship from China with pre-tariffed goods has like the last one has arrived in the US and now and now we're going to see that just empty ships coming through and what that
Starting point is 00:35:58 means on shelves and whether or not people you know they're still coming. They're still sending ghost ships. Well, they have to because well, the whole point of international trade, right, is that it doesn't stop. So it's not they're like, yo, chill the fuck out. It's like, well, no, I got to go pick some shit up over there. I guess I'm just not bringing shit over this time. Right. But yeah, because there's, there's not even enough, like, for all the ships that are out there, there's no way to like the ports. All the ports in the world can handle all that because the whole idea is that it's like,
Starting point is 00:36:25 yeah, man, the shit's always moving because we're freely trading, but yeah. How many years ago was it when the LA port was like backed up really bad? It just feels like we're on a pendulum now where it was backed up for weeks and now it's ending. Is that during the pandemic? I think so. Yeah, that was 2022.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Okay. Yeah. Everything blurs together nowadays. It's just hard to keep up. Well, and I feel like now we're entering the same sort of era like the pandemic where all that like people are noticing how prices are going up on shit that have nothing to do with goods that come outside of the US. And we're going to start hearing the same shit of like, man, that's inflation. You never know these tariffs, they're just going to have to raise prices on
Starting point is 00:37:09 this American made toothpick. Yeah. Well, it's interesting. My friend that I'm staying with, she's actually a farmer here in Idaho. And because of the ice raids, a lot of help is disappearing and they really need it because this is planting season. Alfalfa is coming up for cattle, you know? And it's been a warmer winter. So everything is happening right now.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Everyone's disappearing. So it's really gonna get in a full fucking swing by this fall when there is no produce. It's just- Yeah, right. Depending on, yeah, what the crop is, I'm reading all kinds of things like that about whether or not certain types of farms have stocked up on the kinds of fertilizers they need or
Starting point is 00:37:54 whatever. And some might be good for this season. But it's like then the next one other people are like, you might feel that shit by fucking August. It's all Yeah. And I think that's every time like I'm always talking to people, it's like, when do you think people are going to really fucking realize how fucked up it is? I have a feeling just like when the first contractions happen with Trump's tariff Liberation Day shit
Starting point is 00:38:17 and the stock market took a huge hit and continues to, the next version that is going to be in your face undeniable is when you go to the store, especially if you live outside of like a major metropolitan hub where that's going to be the focal point of where most goods are going to be distributed everywhere else. That is really, it's really going to be pronounced. And I think, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:38:37 maybe that will be another moment where people wonder, I guess it did Joe Biden do this too? Yeah, right. I'm going to blame Biden. Because it's so delayed. I mean, look at, okay. So one of the big things, I guess it did Joe Biden do this too? Yeah. Right? I'm going to blame Biden. Because it's so delayed. I mean, look at, okay. So one of the big things, Biden made egg prices so expensive.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Trump came in, promised to fix egg prices. And now what? They're, I'm sorry. Wait, they're, they're more expensive than they've ever been ever in the history of eggs? What? Eggs are old. They're, they're more excessive than they've ever been ever in the history of eggs. Eggs are old. Eggs. It was a whole question about whether they came for, I think usually the answer is the egg came first before the chicken, right?
Starting point is 00:39:15 I don't know. It depends. I'm a chicken guy. But yeah. Okay. So egg prices are at an all time high despite government bailouts to egg companies because I'm getting, am I pronouncing this right? Price gouging? Is it like Van Gogh? Where it's like price golfing?
Starting point is 00:39:36 Price golfing. I love those paintings. Oh yeah. But yeah, so this is an update on an ongoing story. That's not really an update, just more of a people are starting to agree that the crazy idea we've been saying it is, is not wrong. As a refresher, every economist and Wall Street reporter for the past decade, but especially like since this last wave of inflation, we'll call you a fucking child
Starting point is 00:40:06 for suggesting that the reason prices are going up is because companies are choosing to charge more money and not because of, you know, they would prefer to believe that it is some complex melange of like economic weather patterns that is causing this. And they're the only ones who are smart enough to define it. I think what's going on is like, when you say that, because I feel like this happens every time, right? It's like, it's from their perspective. There's no fucking way you wouldn't raise prices to keep your profit margins the same, if not higher.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Right. You know what I mean? Because normally you'd be like, why? That sounds like greed. If you're still making money, it's like, yeah, at this, you have to make it at this same level of profit margins the same, if not higher. Right. You know what I mean? Because normally you'd be like, why? That sounds like greed. If you're still making money, it's like, yeah, at this, you have to make it at the same margin.
Starting point is 00:40:51 We're not going to shrink our, we're not going to eat that cost to keep the prices stable. What are you a child? And I think that's like sort of the same thinking, like that's the status quo that we have to break from is everyone just assuming shit like that. It's like, no, that's childish. It has to be about the profit rather than like, should an egg be fucking nine bucks a dozen or whatever the fuck?
Starting point is 00:41:11 I mean, I guess they're technically doing the economically sound thing in that they're charging as much as they can get away with and they're succeeding in like their profits have gone, have tripled in the last year, at a time when supposedly the reason they're raising prices is because they're under threat from this avian flu outbreak. And it's just, that's not why the prices are going up. People have now looked and been like, okay, so first of all, the government bailed them out with like $20 million, this company that's the largest egg producing company. And even like they had to kill 115 million egg laying chickens in, I don't know, over
Starting point is 00:41:55 the last two years. And people say even after this reduction in the country's chicken supply, monthly egg production only dipped about 4%. Prices have gone up like three-fold, four-fold since 2020. And yeah, this analysis from this Hill opinion piece, the relatively modest decrease in egg supply shouldn't have led to the exorbitant prices confronting consumers. And yeah, this is not idle speculation. That company, like if it was the stuff that economists and Wall Street reporters say it is, that company would be maintaining their margin. Like you said, Miles, like they would be moving their prices up and down to maintain their margin,
Starting point is 00:42:37 keep making money. That's how capitalism works. Instead, their profits are like 3x what they've ever been. They're making record-breaking profits at a time that their prices are raised the highest they've ever been before. So yeah, that's what's happening. They're just abusing consumers to get more money for their C-suite. That's all it is. It's sinister because everyone will always need eggs. That's all it is. It's sinister because everyone will always Need eggs like it's just a staple. Yeah, you always have in a lot of sticks Yeah, yeah, and I was actually talking to a guy last night and he's like, what does it matter? It matters because I am going to pay $12 for eggs because I need eggs
Starting point is 00:43:19 I don't even have kids like right you're always gonna have to buy that so that $12 the six extra dollars I'm spending the eight extra dollars now that doesn't go towards me buying my new car that I need that's how it fucking affects people and They're just not Connecting the dots that way because we'll always buy eggs or you know always buy milk always buy flour something like right right right yeah No, I mean, I love fucking eating eggs. And I'm always like, it's, there is a, it gets to a point when you look sometimes,
Starting point is 00:43:50 you're like, what the fuck, man? Is an egg really worth a $1 a piece to me? Like near that? And then I'm like, I don't fucking know. Remember the days where we just threw eggs at houses? Yeah, exactly. They were so disposable. Yeah, there was a tweet like that about throwing eggs and toilet paper. We had the two things that we've been throwing eggs on in the past five years.
Starting point is 00:44:09 We used to just throw them. That's how we're getting old. The good old eggs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, at this point, yeah, I feel like Dasani is going to be like, yeah, that shit's $16 a bottle now.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Right. It is what it is. That's just, that's just what it is. That's where we're headed. Yeah. Like under the current, if there's a, if there's a to be like, yeah, that shit's $16 a bottle now. Right? It is what it is. That's just, that's just what it is. That's where we're headed. Yeah. Like under the current, if there's a water shortage, which everybody says we're headed
Starting point is 00:44:33 towards, we're just going to all have to pay hundreds of dollars per bottle of water eventually. And people will be like, that's what you expect them not to charge that? That's childish. You're being childish. Yeah. As people die. Get these people, get these people the fuck out. And also, again, like this is the kind of messaging that needs to be more
Starting point is 00:44:54 like widespread is to really connect people with the thing that like, it's, it's, it's this kind of thinking that comes from leaders that, that don't hold like egg producers to account that allows for all the other rot to occur around you that makes your life more of a living hell and have less capital available to you for your own income, for your wages, whatever your salaries, all of that. Because I think a lot of this stuff gets like a lot of people just sort of end like, ah, man, they're just these egg producers.
Starting point is 00:45:23 It's like, no, like, fuck these egg producers and fuck the people that are excusing it or in public forums don't act like they aren't the actual, like these, the corporate greed isn't the fucking problem. Yeah. And we're not telling them, don't make money. No one has ever said, we don't think you should make money. It's why the fuck are you buying a private jet now? You know?
Starting point is 00:45:51 Doing stock buybacks is like the man with the way that like the all these cut like John Deere was a good example where they were supposedly facing like all these economic headwinds and had to do like a bunch of had to do a bunch of union busting and fire a bunch of employees and Like that year they and also their prices went up and that year they had record-breaking Profits and it was just yeah, and then what they did with those record-breaking profits is Stock buybacks for the people who you know were the equity The the rich people who own who own stock in the company essentially wait. Wait, Jack, are you saying trickle down economics? Yeah, eventually they spent all that money and gave it to, you know, working class people, of course. It trickles down, but they catch it before it gets you.
Starting point is 00:46:35 It does trickle down. You're just going to be like, don't let it trickle down that much. Now, here, let me bring this up a little bit. Trickle down a little too much. Yeah, it's pretty sinister, pretty frustrating. It would be as we talk, like this came up during the campaign because Kamala Harris said to this, everybody freaked the fuck out. And then she stopped saying it. That's that connecting it to the first story. That is the true test of the democratic party is can they withstand a everybody
Starting point is 00:47:04 freaks the fuck out and still, uh, you know, keep saying the thing that's right, you know, like, yeah. Oh, you know, the David Hogue, David Hogg's main issue of like gun control is, you know, the, the current policies in this country are wildly out of step with what people believe. The vast majority of people are like, we want safe gun laws. We don't like the status quo. But after Sandy Hook happened,
Starting point is 00:47:37 and after there was all this support for gun control legislation, the Republicans blocked it and then the Democrats were like, well, that's a political loser. So we're going to moving on. Yeah. And they're like, well, we don't want the NRA to start spending in our districts against us. It's just like, shut the fuck up and just- Shut the fuck up. Do the right thing.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Just fucking, yeah. Just try doing the right thing. This one is not working. Whatever the fuck this is, doing the thing thatalysts tell you as smart is not working. Just try doing the right thing for fucking two years in a row and watch how? Everything starts working out. It's like yeah when I go to therapy and my therapist will be like, you know When you get to a moment like that, whatever your instincts are take a second and try and do the opposite of what normal. Yeah. I tried that. Yeah. I'm like, what? In recovery, it's called contrary action where your instincts are so fucked up at her at first, they're just like, what if you did the opposite of what your brain is telling you to do way too well for me for way too long.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Yeah. But eventually you start getting new instincts that are like, hey, the last five times I did this, it worked out well. It's crazy. I stood up for working people. Those are the people whose votes I need and they supported me. What the? Why?
Starting point is 00:49:03 And I didn't even need all this PAC money. And I didn't have to fear the reaper of outside spending. It's just... I'll try it. Maybe I'll try it again. I don't know. I might have to get pretty fucked up to do it, but... Let's get drunk in lower prices, guys.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Let's just have a really nice... Yeah, let's get fucked up and arrest Jeff Bezos, huh? There we go. Let's do it. Hey, I'll do funsies. Yeah, fuck you. fucked up and arrest Jeff Bezos, huh? There we go. Let's do it. Hey, I'll do funsies. Yeah, funsies. I'll do some guys. Girls night.
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Starting point is 00:53:01 Just, this is the men's bear. The women had bear. You guys get gorillas. What is the bear? Being alone in the forest. Oh, the women woman being alone in the forest with a man or a bear. I would pick the bear. So this is your guys's bear. Any man and any bear. How are we true? Because this is a key question in the 100 men versus gorilla. Surely not all men.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Exactly. Not versus gorilla. Surely not all men. Exactly, not all gorilla. I know. If you're randomly selecting the 100 men, it's gorilla for sure. There's no, I'm sorry, there's not 100 men. I just don't, I'm just not convinced. There's not 100 men. You're taking
Starting point is 00:53:45 Gorilla over any 100 man gorilla like even if it was like the guy who played the fucking Mountain in Game of Thrones a girl would punch that guy straight through his throat and it would die. He would die immediately Yeah, I mean that simulation that that guy ran on YouTube was pretty they were going 60 feet in the air Jack pretty open and closed ran on YouTube was pretty, uh, they were going 60 feet in the air, Jack, pretty open and close. What? I haven't seen that. Producer Victor said a hundred Mike Tyson's versus, no, still gorilla. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:54:09 There's not maybe the hound. Maybe the hell. Does can we, can we pick game of Thrones characters? Well, those, so those are fictional characters though. Do we get to pick fictional characters? No. So you can't have weapons. My question is though, can you pick up stuff around you?
Starting point is 00:54:26 You know? Oh, like improvise. The limb of a fallen man, maybe? Yes, exactly. Yeah, fine. Okay, you can use scraps, you can use scrap limbs. Scrap limbs, then I feel like throw a jawbone. Isn't that a biblical weapon?
Starting point is 00:54:41 Doesn't somebody use a jawbone to smite someone? Possibly. I think I fell asleep in that part. Jawbone. See, that's what's good about Catholic church. You keep you standing up, sitting down, and you don't fall asleep. Samson killed a thousand Philistines with a donkey's jawbone. Damn, son. Damn.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Where'd you get those? Catherine came through in the chat with that. Okay, shout out Catherine for that. Catherine still got it. Catherine still got it. It was Samson, baby. chat with that. Okay. Shout out Katherine for that. It was Samson, baby. Hell yeah. All right. So last week's episode of Everybody's Live, which I haven't been, I loved, uh, everybody's in LA. I haven't been watching everybody's live except for the, did you guys see the bubbles interview?
Starting point is 00:55:21 No, I haven't seen it yet. The bubbles interview is so fucking funny, but that's just a segment that they did on everybody's lab, but this is the John Mulaney talk show. Friend of the show. Molly Lambert is a producer on there. Yeah. Yeah. Well, really fun show chaotic.
Starting point is 00:55:38 And so in the most recent episode, John Mulaney teased that this episode would end with a special announcement, which I think a lot of people assumed would be like, stand-up stations or, you know, hey, we've been renewed for another season. And instead the announcement was that the 100 men versus a gorilla debate had inspired a discussion in his writer's room, as it has on this podcast. We haven't had an episode since it came up that we haven't discussed it about whether or not he, John Mulaney could defeat three 14 year old boys in a fight.
Starting point is 00:56:14 I mean, that three is like, few. Do you think, do you think this is a bit Mulaney said in the writer's room or a writer said, John, I don't even know if you could beat up three 14-year-old boys. He's like, fair, fair, fair. Definitely a writer. They started playing with that. I'm like, did that come from that? I'm sure it took a lot of moving the age up and down and the number.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Yeah. Because like- Fine-tuning. 12 is going to be, I feel like I could take out like 10, 12 year olds, but like nobody wants to see that, right? What do you mean nobody wants to see that? Well, I mean, like am I paying to see it? I don't know, like there's still children at that point.
Starting point is 00:56:56 But I just feel like the 14 year olds like gets to a place where like they're going through that awkward stage where you don't mind, you know? It's, I think it's like sort of like that scene where they're going through that awkward stage where you don't mind. I think it's like, sort of like that scene from Bad Santa really threaded the needle well when he had to beat the shit out of those skater kids that were bullying Thurman Merman. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:15 And that kid was probably, I know that kid Max who plays that bully, but he, that was supposed to be like a 16 year old, I think around then you're like, yeah 16 is like You know well enough not to fuck around and find out I think 12 is good Right like 12. I feel like I there's not a 12 year old in the world who could beat me up. Maybe I Lost my confidence by the end of the sentence, you might know. No. That's how it probably is.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Not in this era right now, but I mean, yeah. I think, I mean, again, that's the whole thing. Then you bring in the debate about man's strength, especially as you get middle-aged and like you realize all of your dreams will not be fulfilled that you had for yourself. And then that turns into like a frustration. Extra surge of strength. Yeah. That can come out when you're trying to like open a CD or you know, other things.
Starting point is 00:58:15 You can just rage quit on something. I was trying to put a Swiffer like thing back on the Swiffer bar. And I was pushing so hard that I have a permanent black spot on my thumbnail for like three weeks for just like jamming that shit so hard. Of like just pushing it through the little like toothy locked hole. Just no, no, no, no. So the thing, the head of the Swiffer came off the neck of the Swiffer. Oh, oh.
Starting point is 00:58:42 It's actually not Swiffer, it's Bona. Oh honey, ya Bona. Oh, honey. You're Bona. Congratulations. Uh, congratulations on that. It came up like apart. So I assumed like, oh, this is how it comes in the box and like that you just like put it back on and it wasn't going back on.
Starting point is 00:59:04 And then I like pushed too hard and like jammed my thumb in there. And yeah, I like the idea that you're putting just like the little paper microfiber on the pad of a really getting it in there with my thumbs. It was, it was man versus nature and nature one. I was like, you need to get a new one of these. You broke it. I think age is important because how old is John Mulaney? Closer to 50, right?
Starting point is 00:59:34 No, no, no. Closer to 40. I'd say he's like 40. Yeah. Okay. I would put my money on the 12-year-olds. If three- These are 14-year-olds by the way. 14-year-olds. So even more.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Yeah, even more. Yeah, even more money on the kids. Because just like you Jack, I struggled opening hummus today. It just- By the way, mine was hard. I could open that hummus. My job was hard that I couldn't do. Yeah, I got a jawbone of a donkey over here opening my hummus.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Swiping at this my hummus. Swiping at this song from hummus. I really do think that the question comes down to, could we choose and can you pick up a rock off the ground? Those are the two questions. Because then just get fucking Randy Johnson. I think honestly, Jack, at this point, I feel like we need to actually find a primatologist. Yeah, we can talk to you because it's other things like how quickly does a gorilla tire? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Because can it kill 40 dudes? No problem. Wave after wave. Because they go to war. Well, at least chimps go to war. So they use prolonged I saw that movie riding horses and shit. Yeah, But they're used to prolonged combat, I think. I don't think they're just going to be like, you're going to rope a dope the gorilla by any stretch of the imagination. Right. Do the men or the 14 year olds with John Mulaney, do they get to plan?
Starting point is 01:01:02 Because I think that is the true advantage over 100 men and gorilla. If the men are allowed to plan their attack, the men are going to win. Like you have a distraction or a diversion. People can hug right at the back side. That's what I'm saying. Right. That's why I want to draft a primatologist into the group. We need a primatologist. Yeah, to know. Because if they just hate loud sounds, and everyone's like, and the gorilla's like,
Starting point is 01:01:27 what advantages do we have innately that don't require you the use of tools? Where we can use our minds for. That's right. Even if it's a situation where all 100 men are transported magically into the cage with the gorilla, and they're like, oh shit, it's game time guys. It's the 100 men versus gorilla challenge. Wake up everyone. Shit.
Starting point is 01:01:51 This show, maybe we can use our small amount of power on this show by interviewing a primatologist to prepare our fellow humans. They just like, no, they're like, fuck, it's go time on the off chance that this ever happens. All right, so the Malaney thing, because I do think selection is so important in all of these, the way he just opened it up, he was like, email me at,
Starting point is 01:02:20 I want to fight JohnMalaney at gmail.com and they need to have the approval of their guardians, so they need a permission slip from their parents. Just like the Disney Channel. Yeah. The website. Exactly. Then I don't know how this is going to, he really does push the edges on the show,
Starting point is 01:02:43 so I wouldn't be shocked if he really made it happen. Yeah. I mean, wait, what are the, did they say what the rules are though? The thing is, I think he would just get child stars. He would actually get 14-year-olds. They're going to be kids that want their 15 minutes or start their career, blah, blah, blah. I want true to God 14-year-olds. Oh, I like how you're blah, blah. I want true to God 14 year olds.
Starting point is 01:03:06 I want someone off the streets of Idaho. Like I think. You're talking, yeah, you're looking at this, I guess someone who produces The Bachelor and looks at contestants like, they're just not here for the fucking, the spawn car and after they're not here to find fucking love.
Starting point is 01:03:18 No, no. They're not gonna hit him in the face. They know that's the money. Like I want a kid that will take out John Mulaney's teeth. Yeah. I just don't, I just think, it's just, I feel like it's below John to fight children. 14 is like, I think that's why, so 14 is very specific.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Like I think the knee-jerk thing is like, okay, can he beat up 10 eight-year-olds, right? But they've gone 14 year old because I think they recognized like nobody's going to want to see an adult pushing around eight year olds, 14 year olds on the other hands. Jack in my mind, motherfuckers are going to die in this thing. That's why for me, I'm like, I don't know if I need to see John Mulaney kill a 14 year old. You know what I mean? Like I'm fine with watching a gorilla rip a dude in half. Yeah, because they're stupid for even stepping to them.
Starting point is 01:04:10 That's where I'm like, the children know not what they do, you know, or what they are paid to do when they appear on this Netflix talk show next week, but whatever it is, just I'm worried about them. I'm worried about them. Yeah, it'll be interesting. I mean, that's live TV ladies. Producer Victor, like I said, please try and book Dame Jane Goodall for the show next week. Would love to get her take on.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Can you imagine asking a 90-year-old Jane Goodall? I mean, Jane, you've been in the trenches with these motherfuckers. What do you think? Like assuming that she's adversarial again People see you've been in the fucking trenches with these monsters. Yeah, you've seen everything but God Jay now, what do we do? What's the secret? Yeah. She studies them to learn how to defeat them. That's just my assumption from, from the start.
Starting point is 01:05:18 You know, she's like, I mean, the, the work you did with the Gombe stream national park and then learned how they communicate. She's like, yeah. And that was an L I was hoping they would be dumb as fuck. And I could beat the shit out there, but they communicate. She's like, yeah, and that was an L. I was hoping they would be dumb as fuck. And I could beat the shit out of them, but they communicate. No. And then, Super Producer Victor also, please try and book a 14-year-old bully for next week. 14-year-old bully and Dame Jane Goodall. Just watch how quickly my confidence wilts under the... Dude, he's like, what even is this?
Starting point is 01:05:44 Is this a work call? No, it's our podcast. Sorry. Oh, I'm sorry the dude. He's like he's like what even is this? What are you guys? We're just a work call Sorry, I'm sorry. I'm dude. I apologize to him 20 times in the first five minutes of the show is ice spice gonna be on Rizzless bro Be fucking for real. I'm out of here. Kim Winder, what a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist as always. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that good stuff? Instagram, Blue Sky, Reddit. I'm there.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Patreon. If you like really spicy stuff, go ahead and join that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I make comics daily, so I'm around. And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? You know what? I watched that documentary about the treasure hunt. The guy that buried five million dollars worth of like trinkets
Starting point is 01:06:41 in the wilderness and they're redoing it. It's on Netflix, it's good. Sounds vague as hell, you'll find it. Wait, it's a documentary about a guy who just randomly buried legit treasures around? Yes. There was people incredibly dedicated to it. Wow. They spent years finding it.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Someone actually did it. I think it's valued at five million. But one of the guys that spent a few years doing it, got some more money and it's out there right now again. So they're keeping it going. Very entertaining. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:13 Awesome. Miles, where can people find you? Is there work at media you've been enjoying? Find me on everywhere with the at symbols at miles of gray. Find Jack around the basketball podcast. Miles and Jack are mad. Boosies. Yes, I will be just whatever. I guess the postseason is fine.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Whatever. Good luck to them. Boosies. I mean, at this point. Catherine just said it is Golden Grieve, the hunt for Fern's treasure. That's it on Netflix. Okay. There we go.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Netflix getting a lot of burn this episode. It's official. Better start sponsoring us. Yeah. Or let me fight John Bellini. On Netflix. Okay, there we go. Netflix getting a lot of burn this episode. It's official. Better start sponsoring us. Yeah, or let me fight John Mulaney. Yeah. I've watched that. And I get to do cocaine.
Starting point is 01:07:54 And he doesn't anymore. He doesn't. Or he can. I'll be like this, hey bro, it's there. I mean. That's how you beat him. Two of them fight him while the other one's in the back doing cocaine, being like, I don't know. It's pretty good. I'm having fun
Starting point is 01:08:08 Dick on him. Yeah, right Are you yes or Andy dick on what's his face Phil Hartman's wife Y'all if you want to know more Andy dick is a lot of people consider him the reason why Phil Hartman is no longer with us. He's the shit. Anyway, so allegedly. Also find me talking 90 Day Fiancé on 420 Day Fiancé, a work of social media. Dude, I saw I finally saw that second episode of the fucking rehearsal. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:08:41 That was unbelievable spectacular But another one I like is the fucking onion man again fucking flawless all the time They're showing governor Kay Ivey's his The onion new Alabama law requires women to leave semen on lower back for nine Oh, the onion. How may I count the ways? Oh my gosh. All right. Fuck, I'm going to do another Netflix thing here, unfortunately. Oh shit.
Starting point is 01:09:18 You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien and on Blue Sky at Jack OB the number one. The work of media I've been enjoying is just the John Mulaney bombshell interview with Bubbles Jackson that I will put in the footnotes. Footnotes. Very funny. Oh, when you said Bubbles, you actually met Michael Jackson's Bubbles?
Starting point is 01:09:36 The monkey? Yeah. Wow. Oh, okay. I thought maybe it was an influencer or something. Yeah, I thought we were talking about- A fortune-year-old influencer. I thought we were talking about the wire or some shit.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Nah, I don't know, bubbles, bubbles, guys. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. You can go to the description of the episode wherever you're listening to it and you can find the footnotes. The notes. Which is where we link off to the information
Starting point is 01:10:01 that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think people might enjoy? Yes, I think you'll enjoy this one for your weekend. You know, if you're inside cooking, cleaning, chilling, whatever, just some nice instrumental music from this Melbourne based instrumental soul group called Karate Boogaloo. This track is called the early bird catches
Starting point is 01:10:27 And it's just super fucking it's just like it's it feels good like when you put it on I don't know even like this tiny closet that I record in instantly I'm like, oh this place feels luxurious when I listen to this song. That's the vibe this track gives so again The early bird catches by Karate boogaloo. Great name All right We will link off to that in the footnote The daily zeitgeist of production of I heart radio for more podcasts from my heart radio visit the I heart radio app Apple Podcasts wherever you list your favorite shows that is gonna do it for us this week
Starting point is 01:10:58 We are back. We have we have the weekly zeitgeist over on Saturday where it's the highlights from this week's episode. And then on Monday, Miles and I will be back to tell you what was trending over the weekend. And some things we think are overrated, underrated. And we will talk to you all then. Bye! Adios! The Daily Zeitgeist is executive produced by Kathryn Law. Co-produced by Bae Wang.
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