The Daily Zeitgeist - 2023 Pop Culture = 1989 All Over, Pay Teachers (In Money Not McMuffins) 05.09.23

Episode Date: May 9, 2023

In episode 1480, Jack and Miles are joined by super producer, DJ Danl Goodman, to discuss… Ohhhh, Tucker Tried It With The Wrong One And Got GOT, Appreciate Teachers? F**king Pay Them, 2023’s Pop-Culture Is Just Reliving 1989 and more! Ohhhh, Tucker Tried It With The Wrong One And Got GOT Inside the ‘Death Match’ that Helped Doom Tucker Carlson at Fox Appreciate Teachers? Fucking Pay Them McDonald’s to Observe ‘National Teacher Appreciation Day’ with Free Breakfast for Educators 2020 has shone a light on the importance of good teachers, but many are paid less than a living wage in the U.S. The Gap Between Teacher Pay and Other Professions Hits a New High. How Bad Is It? Most of the US is dealing with a teaching shortage, but the data isn't so simple Arizona breaks ground on tiny homes for teachers amid worsening educator shortage Is Congress going to raise teachers' salaries to $60K? This Is the Living Wage You Need in All 50 States Legislators react to release of Arkansas LEARNS Act Sarah Huckabee Sanders signs sweeping education bill, to praise and protests Biden unveils new efforts aimed at fixing teacher shortages, increasing pay 2023’s Pop-Culture Is Just Reliving 1989 New The Flash Movie TV Spot Focuses On Batman Harrison Ford Is Done With Indiana Jones After ‘Dial Of Destiny’ & Reveals He “Will Not Be Involved” With TV Series 'Ghostbusters: Afterlife' Sequel Will Return Franchise to New York City, Jason Reitman Confirms The new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie looks unexpectedly gorgeous TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES (1989) Doogie Kamealoha, M.D. Season 2 Featurette Celebrates Female Empowerment Alyssa Milano reunites with Tony Danza and Who's the Boss? costars ahead of revival series ‘Baywatch’ Remake In The Works At Fremantle As Buyers Circle CBS’ ‘Matlock’ Reboot Adds Jason Ritter LISTEN: Billie Toppy by Men I TrustSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Tucker Carlson's favorite national sleepover day. National. Oh, I like this one. National Alphabet Magnet Day. Shout out to those letters i when i learned how to spell curse words i got in trouble really quickly for spelling fuck all the time on the refrigerator also national moscato day uh national lost sock memorial day europe day national butterscotch brownie day europe day yeah i'm sure there's some white supremacist shit yeah shout out to all the fallen lost socks. It's the day that the European

Union celebrates peace and unity in Europe. There you go. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. You sure? Follow me, yeah, follow me. I've got

my zeit, I've got my Baja Blast. That is courtesy of Fat Andrew on the Discord. Orange Crush by R.E.M. Big R.E.M. fan growing up. They were the first cool music band that I listened to. And you can tell it worked out and made me cool because I call them music bands. Like a real cool kiss.

And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Yes, the LA Lakers original Blasian, Miles Gray, coming to the mic. Shout out to the Los Angeles Graykers. As of this recording, we are up 2-1, although the game four has happened. We'll see what has happened in that game. But I will say this. The response of Golden State fans has been really something to see. There was a guy, I don't know if you saw this clip, at the Staples Center

when we were blowing their entire back end out. He was going up and down the stands at Staples. I will call Staples. I don't know what crypto whatever.com is. This Warriors fan was going up and down the ais at Staples. I will call Staples. And I don't know what crypto whatever.com is. This Warriors fan was going up and down the aisles holding up a four. Being like, one, two, three, four rings. Four rings. And everyone just starts going, 17!

17! What you talking about? And he was like, okay. Was he like a straw man hired by the Lakers to just get owned publicly? He did have the vibe of like when they have plants for like the audience cam where they're like, yeah, this guy's doing a dance battle against the mascot.

He's a plan. It did have kind of like, they're like, there's no way you think four is greater than 17 or you are just such a new fan with the tag still on your Jersey. That only occurred to you that maybe four was the most somebody ever won in this league. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. Also, his wig is not convincing. Just up there. I've seen that guy from the ground. Side note, I have my in-laws there in town. I got them on the Jalen Rose got fake hair conspiracy bandwagon now. Yeah, it can't all be right. We're all in agreement that it can't all be, right? We're all in agreement that it can't all be fake.

It's just... I don't know. It could be mixed medium fake hair. I don't... See, this is the part I don't like because before I held him up as the strongest hairline of all time and now I don't like that

we're wobbling in the perception of it. That's what really hurts me more than whether or not he is faking the hairline. I think it's like a situation like Olympic athletes are the greatest athletes in the world. And then they use performance enhancing drugs because to write like once all the attention is on you and there's competition from other people with the greatest hair in the world. Then he feels like he has to keep up with impossible standards would be my guess.

It was just funny how quickly I went from like the internet, there's this dumb conspiracy theory that this guy got a fake hairline. They're like, Oh, really? They're like, it is pretty strong. It's really strong. And then they're like, then like five minutes in, it just turned into, I don't know, maybe you're right. I was like, it's that easy to maybe spread misinformation out there. Yeah. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant and talented podcast producer, e-sports commentator, guy on Twitch, DJ and music producer, one half of the DJ production duo Gladiator, one of the super producers here at the iHeart Podcast Network. You know him from Fake Doctors, Real Friends. As the engineer and producer of this show that super producer Justin had to assassinate in order to take his spot.

Yeah. Well, he's back. Stakes is high. And this is a direct quote from what he just put in the chat. He's, quote, back from the dead to fuck all your guys' shit up. It's DJ Danil, good man! Danil! I wrote all that shit.

It's your boy DJ Danil, a.k.a. Mr. Steel, your aerial, a.k.a. Aloy fan cam creator gang. We're here. Wow. Did you really make Aloy fan cams? I'm working on it. Wow.

I'm full stand. This new Horizon Forbidden West DLC got me all fucked up. Oh, is the new DLC good? I switched to Jedi Survivor. I don't blame you. I finished two days ago, and I'm just on cloud nine. It was so amazing. I'm blown away. Pardon me.

Bless. Bless. Let me come through to your house on my PlayStation and show your son the new Star Wars game. It's nuts. Oh, my goodness. Beyond your wildest new Star Wars game. It's nuts. Oh my goodness. He'll be like, what? Man, the way I'll be taking 900 droids and I'll be like, let me smush

all y'all together and then hack through you because I'm off this. Wait, do you have control over one of the trash compactors or you just have the force? No, you are the trash compactor. You'll just be like, y'all need to, all of y'all get over here right now. Force powers ever? Oh just be like, y'all need to... All of y'all get over here right now. Just the most force powers ever. Oh, yeah.

Strong. Big strong. The one before Fallen Order, what was that one called that was on PS3? That was like... Oh, Jedi Force Unleashed? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was one scene, Jack, where you brought down a Star Destroyer with your hands. Damn.

It was pretty good. That was a pretty good cut scene. Yeah, i think you had to match the buttons to do that but anyway i know your kids still fire kids parenting is just a long process of withholding things that they would like too much right so they don't so they don't lose the plot that avatar too i feel like would just destroy our ability to get him to leave the house oh really yeah yeah? Yeah, yeah. But he likes that book, though? The Technical Journal? He absolutely loves it. One of the great

gift recommendations that we've ever received. Great. I'm like, I was really waiting with bated breath. I'm like, if he's the child, I think he is. You nailed it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he is just always up on

the top bunk with that book only. An hour after he is supposed to have gone to bed. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, at least it's books. At least it's books, you know? Yeah. Hell yeah.

Absolutely. We love that. We love it, don't we, folks? Yeah, we do, folks. We love it. Kids reading. Daniel, how are you doing? I'm great.

What's new, man? It is a happy Tuesday. And just, you know got i got a cup of tea right here i recently switched my caffeine intake to kind of like trick my body into being more awoken by the caffeine i think i'm just too used to coffee at this point like i was switching beans every month and then i was like let me just switch it up to tea again and see if that makes a difference you're doing this shit like people who smoke weed switch it up to tea again and see if that makes a difference. You're doing this shit like people who smoke weed do it.

Like, man, I've been smoking too many Indicas, man. Let me switch to sativa really quick. That might knock something loose. Yes. Is there like a, are there like C breaks? Like people do tea breaks? I'm sure there are. I'm just doing, I simply cannot.

So I'm just switching up the caffeine to see if it makes a difference. This is before, I'm not going to lie. I was recently at Smart and Final and I saw, or no, not Smart and Final, I was somewhere else, but I saw the old Kirk Siggy cold brews with that panther on the can. Yeah, that's Costco, baby. For a half second, I was like, I might have to cop. Do I do it

to him? Yeah, I might have to cop. You're like, I had to do it to him. Have uncontrollable caffeine-induced diarrhea. Destroy my insides. But damn, would I be awake. I found a loose can I had I was sitting on. It wasn't great. It had been years since I was supposed to drink it.

But when I pour that thing out, it is opaque. It's solid. There's no seeing through that. Opacity. out it is opaque solid yeah there's no seeing through that yeah opacity one of the one of the signs that you're fucking with a strong cold brew yeah all right dan we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we are going to tell the listeners a couple of the things that we're talking about we got some new details a new theory on what happened to tucker carlson as he is like threatening to launch his elon musk collab his own network there there's some more behind the scenes shit this one kind of boring and about what it seems true because it's so boring it's just like fucked with the wrong

hr lady basically yeah so don't come for the people in the c-suite it is it is very like succession-esque yes like katarina i was saying like katarina who was running comms for waystar royco she seemed impervious to the the kill list because that's what these comms people do like they help keep keep your evil empire like from the outside looking half decent evil empire yeah and know where every single body is buried yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so yeah it ain't gonna be us we'll talk about that we'll talk about teacher pay we will talk about the way that pop culture is cycling back to the year 1989 in a number of ways like i i don't know that it can be coincidental the number of ways that it's just like they it feels like everyone in hollywood two years ago just were like okay so 1989 right 1989

we're gonna go just make everything cool remake everything from the year 1989 just gonna do it again and it's all coming out at the same time so all of that plenty more but first daniel we do like to ask our guests as you may know uh what is something from your search history all right i'm gonna take you guys on a journey here because the search history that i have here is the end of my journey but i want to see if you guys can get there with me so i'm gonna sing you a tune right now and i want you to tell me if you know it off the top of your head okay yeah baby elephant walk fucking nailed that shit well done i had that tune stuck in my head the other day couldn't remember what it was called and so dan i'm a fucking podcaster okay with nothing to do except no useless shit like that song is called baby elephant walk now now not to call you out but jack did you know that off the top of your head

no no no i i was i was getting there i was like the first step on a 100 step journey to getting there and i was not all the way there no so here's the here's the journey i took via google search to find that song yeah classic honky tonk type songs. Wrong. Honky tonk. Honky tonk. I don't think of that as honky tonk. Exactly. Wrong.

That classic song that has flute and horns. Also wrong. Song from Austin Powers was not in that movie. Now, here's where I took a logic. I totally thought it was, though. I was like, yeah, that's right. That was in there. Song walking through city. Now, in my head, I was like, I feel that's right. That was in there. Song Walking Through City.

Now, in my head, I was like, I feel like walk is in the name of the song or something like that. And I was right. I was close. But song walking through city, not helpful. Yeah. And then we get to my actual search. Shazam, you can sing into because I was so tired of doing this bullshit that I was like, I just have to solve this by someone telling me what it is. And Shazam is insufficient for that.

Now, did you guys know that the Google app will let you sing into it and it will find the song? Wow. And it worked? It worked. I sang into Google and the first thing that came up, Baby Elephant Walk by Henry Mancini. There it is. What humbled me a little bit was that it said accuracy... And you're a little pitchy,

Doug. 12%. 12%. I was like, I mean, I appreciate you getting it, but you did not have to drag me like that. 12%? You're kind of all over the place. You're all over the map here with your pitch, but I can tell that this is what you're doing. Just don't do that in

front of anybody would be my note oh yeah bingo my man did the pink panther theme too oh there oh wow that's right yeah good call yeah so yeah shazam you can sing into and gang if you're like me and you have a tune stuck in your head just pull up that baby girl google and sing right into her and then boom you got yourself a song hopefully baby elephant you could have just called me man you could have just called me man you know I could have you're right I could have and maybe that's what I'll do from now on instead of sending it to google there was a time when I like

was so into those like just songs that you hear all the time but didn't know what they were called and like back in the early days of iTunes I had a playlist with all like those weird tracks on there yeah yeah and a lot of uh herb albert tracks around there too because like there's just songs you kind of hearing like wait what is this one what are some of those herb albert like in the tijuana brass like zorba the greek do you want to tax i feel like i'm in

that uh i think you should leave sketch with Tim Heidecker. Oh, man. Also, dude. Do you want to press? Hit the high note with a crank in it? Also, dude, the thing that is from Biggie, Biggie, Biggie, Hypnotize, Rise, that sample. Oh. That's Herb Alpert? That's Herb Alpert. Really?

Yeah, that's Rise. That's cool. Anyway, I didn't know that. Yeah, I was really into that kind of stuff. And when you said song with horns in the flute, I said the intro of Tears of a Clown. There you go. Anyway, got smoky on the brain.

Where is that song from, the Baby Elephant Walk? Like, where would people have recognized it from? When I looked it up, it was actually in an episode of The Simpsons, in the Dance and Homer episode. Yeah. But it was written for some movie that I can't remember right now. Because when I looked it up, I saw the Homer thing, and I was like, that's where I must have remembered it from. Or Hattari, the 1962 film.

There you go. That I undoubtedly have seen hundreds of times. No, yeah, I have not. There you go. That I undoubtedly have seen hundreds of times. No, yeah, I've not.

Yeah. I think I knew it from like the Simpsons and then just it being like throw away music that people use for like comedic bits. Exactly. Okay. That in Spanish. Flee. Okay. Yeah,

I know that one. That's like the whole music when they like, when like something goes wrong in the show and then they like cut to like we'll be right back yeah exactly yeah yeah bingo all right what is something you think is overrated overrated by the way this your search history could be an entire podcast i appreciate that nobody would listen to it but it would be it could be it's called you could have called You could have called me, man. You could have just called me. You could have just called me, bro.

My overrated is special seasonings. And what I mean by that is having, you know, a spice drawer full of things that are like your like crazy barbecue rubs or these like, you know, wild, you know, flavored salts and stuff like that. And the only reason I say that is not because it's not useful to spice up your food. It's that all of those seasonings are simply combination of seasonings you probably already have in your spice drawer. Like one of the things that I made recently was my own Cajun seasoning. Because it's like five ingredients, and you have all of them. It's not that I don't want to go and buy Cajun seasoning or something. It's just that I have all this shit already. Like, why not just make it?

So I encourage you, look at the ingredients on the back of some of your spices and be like, oh, damn, I'm literally holding on to this, which is just these five things that I already have in my spice drawer. Right.

Just do that. Do that. A, save yourself some money. And B, there are probably higher quality ingredients when you're getting them as the individual ingredient itself. Right. Versus getting them in some like congealed,

whatever. So you're like, throwing some sawdust in to fill up the, exactly. Fill up the bottle a little cheaper. You're a spice apothecary. You just cook,

you're mixing it up. Yeah. Mixing and blending on your own. Yeah. so what, wait, so you'll, so you won't buy specialty spices now you're just saying i can cook up my own or you're just saying if you ever feel like

you have to go out and buy it first check what it is because chances are you might you might be able to just make that shit on your own i'd say it's i'd say it's more column b but certainly a little bit of column a i mean there's definitely some some that we had in our spice rack where i was like why i feel like we probably could have made this and then we were just you know as we're looking up recipes and whatnot somebody had a homemade cajun seasoning and i was like this is bullshit we have every single one of these things let's just make it and it's fire garlic paprika cayenne salt pepper oregano 90% of me cooking onion powder time yeah okay 90% of me cooking is googling like an ingredient and then replacement and then just finding out what the closest thing is

to that because i don't have that ingredient exactly yeah or it's it's behind 30 layers of old spices exactly and not the cool good smelling old spice that i wear every day layers of old spices. Exactly. And not the cool, good-smelling old spice that I wear every day, but the old spices that crowd my spice rack. Have you seen the old spice in the bottle? The old-timey one? Yeah. I saw this shit recently. I thought it was a joke, and I was like, oh, that's right.

That's how this shit started. And I was like, okay. In my mind, I thought it was a joke. And I was like, oh, that's right. That's how this shit started. And I was like, okay. In my mind, I thought this was a prank on me. They're the deodorant company that do those weird-ass commercials. Not the old... This shit was Old Spice. Old Spice. It had four more L's

in the label. Old Spice. No D's. Just the Old Spice. Love it. What is something you think is underrated? This is a boring, old-head answer, but, no. It's just an old spice. Yeah. Love it. What is something you think is underrated? This is a boring old head answer, but flossing. I've been flossing every day and it feels great. Not only does my mouth smell better, it feels better.

And it's something that I underrated for way too long, thinking it was something that I had to do for a week before I went to the dentist. So that exactly. Yes, the dancing. Thank you. I thought you meant flossing like that. Yeah, exactly. That. Yeah.

Underrated. Underrated is just Fortnite dances. Yeah. No, but yeah. Shout out Donald Faison. Shout out Donald. Shout out Donald Faison. The OG.

Got ripped off. Yeah, exactly. You know, he never complains about that. Anyway. Yeah. Flossing is something that i do every day now and i don't regret it and i'll never go back because it feels fucking great and i recommend that everybody do it yo you know i started doing what tongue scraping tongue scraping is huge

tongue scraping is the next that shit i was like man i've been abusing my fucking mouth like not getting at it with this tongue scraper that's do you have do you have a tongue scraper or do you yeah i got one that's like i have a i have a terrible gag reflex like something if i like if i even try and brush my molars yeah that's how you know it's working that's how you know you're working hard enough to get your mouth smelling good is when you almost throw up but i have one that's like a like a stainless steel like, like a thing you hold on both sides and you just put your tongue in and it comes right off. Oh man. That shit that comes off of there.

Not, not great. What do we call that? I don't know. Smug. Yeah. It's gross. It's definitely,

what was the name of that baseball team from the Simpsons? The Spungos. That's what we call it. Football team. And they were playing in the Super Bowl. Thank you. When they first bought the fake tickets. There's no such team as the Spungos. Yeah, when you get that Spungo off your tongue, man.

The Spungo off your tongue-go. And all bets are off. Yeah. There you go. Good news and bad news about flossing is that once you start doing it regularly, it no longer is... Things stop coming out as much. Right.

Exactly. Exactly. And you stop bleeding, which I had... Now I'm like, am I even really as much. Right. Exactly. And you stop bleeding, which now I'm like, am I even really flossing? Am I really burning the clean gums that I have been working for here? But I

too recently, within the last year, started flossing every day. Straight game changer, dude. Game changer, bro. I gotta tell you. I'm not gonna lie. The high I got when my dental hygienist went,

wow, so are you flossing more often? Yes, queen I am. I walked outside. It was like there was a parade for me down the street. They were all like,

he's the man of the hour. They're like, that's him. That's him. I am him. I'm him. I'm him. Just wedded a three i will not talk about the checking with my dental hygienist that got me to start flossing every day because oh god all right because they fell back and hit their head right yeah it's it we are currently in litigation so we're not going to talk about it. Yeah. I mean, it is a landmark case that would define what is actual assault.

Yes. Through your own negligence? That is assault? Really? Yeah. Okay. All right. The less said about that, the better.

Let's take a quick break, and we will be right back. Get the spungo off your tongue-o. Spungo off your tongue-o. off your tongue go it's bungo off your tongue go the other good thing about the tongue scrapers are also the makeshift shaver when my kids want to shave with me like when i'm shaving oh yeah oh do you have like a little plastic one yeah a little plastic one and so they pretend like they're shaving with that yeah that's fun that's fun and then the tongue scraper tastes like shit for a couple couple times but then their cheeks smell like shit for a couple times. Then their cheeks smell like shit. They have horrible

bacterial infections on their weird strips down the side of their face. Can't even kiss my own kids. They're disgusting. Again, the gag reflex. That's how you know the love is working.

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on the iheart radio app on apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and tucker the p the people this is like the zapruder films of firing like we're just adding little blocks yeah yeah we didn't know said like a real jfk assassination expert the zapruder films of yeah fire there's a lot of theories as to what happened here and i don't know so rolling stone gave us the the genre of this one is succession episode yeah they've been scratching we've been like we've been just trying to figure out what has been going on with the firing because you know we're like it couldn't be because he was racist in private like that's what like that's what you pay him to do yeah live

on tv and then like or that he's like a misogynistic piece of shit. I'm like, that's pretty much most on-air talent at the network from past to present. But yeah, this Rolling Stone piece, a little more context, a little more texture. It sounds like Tucker was feeling himself since his ratings were so high through the roof. And that even with the occasional advert advertiser exodus he was still like top dog at the network and i guess he thought he was basically fox news himself and that anyone that got in the way like in his way would lose and his biggest beef while at the network was with the head of communications for fox this woman named irena briganti and she has been down with fox for a minute and has been doing all

the dirty work of like coming at reporters who report unflattering shit about the network blacklisting certain journalists even if they like said one thing wrong about folks like oh you'll never work for us ever like i i keep a list she was roger ale's mouthpiece okay and like continued after his ouster and like when you think about like what again like with succession being loosely based off of you know the Murdoch's like this it sounds like this person is Katarina okay like the like and Katarina is not maybe as aggressive as this one when Irina Briganti is but apparently like one of those people who knows everything about the company has done everything to keep the company like you know in decent shape in the press and has been a very loyal servant and i guess due to

her loyalty to the murdochs and her record of service she's basically unfuck withable at the network just like it like there's like no way because this is the person who cleans up all the messes like when hannity fucks, she's got to clean the messes. When O'Reilly's fucking up, she's got to clean the messes. That's what she does. And she gets in front of all these pieces and all that. So because of that, I guess Tucker thought that she was food and figured he could make a case for her being shown the door.

And this is just from this Rolling Stone piece. Quote, the sources say Carlson made his case to Fox News CEO Suzanne Scott, Fox's chief legal officer Viet Dinh, Murdoch family heir and Fox Corp CEO Lachlan Murdoch, and even other Fox News personalities such as Sean Hannity. Basically, Carlson argued Berganzi spent too much time badgering on-air talent and the channel's personnel, and that she was generally incompetent and mean-spirited and that she regularly engaged in dirty tricks against him and other hosts and contributors. One current Fox source with knowledge of the matter described the Carlson Briganti feud as an intranetwork death match.

Damn, son. Damn. So, it sounds like, again, like I said, the comms person's like, yo, Tucker, you, like, go easy with the, with all this wild stuff. We're losing advertisers or, like, like, we need to figure out what's going on. He basically took these kinds of words from the person's's like, yo, Tucker, you like go easy with the with all this wild stuff. We're losing advertisers or like like we need to figure out what's going on. He basically took these kinds of words from the person's like, I'm the one who has to clean up the fucking mess. So can you work with me here? And he's like, I don't like her.

Yeah. She wasn't nice about the mess. I made her clean up. She kind of sighed under her breath. He's just like one of the one of those people who's never happy like yeah he's got that trump thing where he's just not happy unless he's like fucking with somebody or right you know in a fight of some sort that is helping him you know feel better about like well i i'm okay so i'm the biggest dog at the network right but like how do i prove how do i like keep getting

wins for my ego you know yeah i mean that seems like the next like logical step if you are are if you are like beaten aka fired from the network your next fight is with who has quote unquote betrayed you and so he's just like trying to take it out as much as possible but i'm guessing i mean you know but he's been trying to do this since 2020 apparently that's trying to take it out as much as possible. But I'm guessing, I mean, you know. But he's been trying to do this since 2020, apparently. That's fucked up. Trying to get her fired. And apparently, everyone who works at the company and knows anything was like, bro, Tucker, you don't want this smoke. Another person who spoke anonymously to Rolling Stone said, quote, he really thought he was going to make a change.

And I kind of shook my head. It was such a terrible idea. It was such a clear suicide mission. But then again, at the time, I guess he thought he was big enough to do anything. Yeah, that's perfect. That's why I was a former Fox News talent. Talent. Yeah. Someone else. Oh, you can't come for her. Yeah. No, bro. That's that's why would you do that? So knowing that it's not the whole story, but it definitely like now you add up. It's like, oh, he's got like he's he's bringing these lawsuits because of his own behavior on the on the on the set. Obviously, like his comments just lead to more and more like advertiser difficulty. And he's trying to come for the neck of the comms director. Who knows where everybody is buried?

of the comms director who knows where everybody is buried yeah when you like i can't imagine the person who had to clean up the messes in the roger ailes era and beyond has little insight into the mess that we don't even know about yeah at fox so yeah at the end of the day we're like well she's sitting on more information than tucker outwardly like exp himself for. So I think we're going to go with her. But again, he is pissed. And like you were saying at the top, Jack, there is like this Axios piece where it says like we don't know what exactly is going on. But apparently him and Elon have had some kind of conversation about potentially working together without any specifics. So I don't know. I mean, that tracks.

Elon is just such a sucker. He's going to try and work with anybody who's down to work. Oh, yeah. But I mean, also someone who's like on the same sort of level of like, man, aren't these like woke people just like so annoying? It's talking about like pay people a fair wage or like don't be racist at your factory. Like, I'm sick of this. Right.

And yeah, who better than the guy who's like this is how white men fight honorably yeah uh as your fucking ally in that fight yeah so i feel like they're gonna create like a weird like it just my my guess would be tucker's next move is like i'm moving to austin and we're gonna like set up shop in austin with like you know create the weird conservative hollywood joe rogan but yeah in the studio next door exactly yeah right but here's like i'm curious now like what what the evolution of the network's gonna be right because since tucker left the ratings have been bad at Fox. Yeah. And so they need, that's like basically when people come to your buffet for the roast beef carving station. Right.

And that shit's gone. People aren't going to come. They want the, where's the red meat at? You're telling me Yachtfell's not holding them up? I mean, he's like, he's holding his own in the late night part. But that's a huge hole that is left from Tucker Carlson not being there. That I'm sure they're going to find someone who's like, they're just going to hook chat gpt up to mine comp for something and be like yeah man let it rip do your thing yeah we're saving money it does i think that's one of the

things that's intriguing is that like the decision didn't make sense so like yeah it's going to hurt their ratings kind of transparently from the moment that they made it he's their most popular person they didn't have like a replacement that made any sense ready to go so it's yeah they they were just like that that's why like all of this like these are all things that make sense for a firing but for this firing where it was like we got to get this done like post haste immediately yeah i think there's i it'll be interesting to see as details emerge about like what happened at the dinner between rupert murdoch tucker carlson rupert murdoch's then fiance who the day after the dinner they called it off and who was like tucker carlson's biggest fan like that feels like there was some personal animosity there yeah yeah it's like oh you're trying to come for it you're in arena briganti

and my fiancee no no no no time to clip your wings sir not today but yeah apparently there was another thing that like newsmax was offering him more money than fox to get him to go over to newsmax and fox offered him $20 million to do nothing. Wow. That's pretty sweet. $20 million a year, I think, for the rest of his contract. Like, how about this? We'll pay him just forever.

Wait, they tried to fire him but also keep him under contract? Like, cancel his show? Yeah, I don't know if it was to deal with whatever was left in his contract, but apparently there's an offer of $20 million to not work. Like a non-compete post clause or something? Yeah. Huh. I mean, is that whole even fillable?

Is there someone as hateful that they're like, yep, this is exactly who we're going to put in there? Or do you think this signals an entire direct swing in the kind of content they're even going to try to put in that slot? I think Jesse Waters would be my guess. direct swing in the kind of content they're even going to try to put in that slot i think jesse waters would be my guess jesse waters is the most like he's the most available to just slip into that and has absolutely no problem saying the most vile disturbing nonsense ever yeah or it's like do they do the thing where it's like hey maybe we go to the minors and go to podcasting let's see what

kind of right-wing podcasters we can call up to the big likes. You know? Yeah. I don't think you're right. Arena Brigante is going to like what we've been saying, though. We got to take our names out of the running miles. Unfortunately. All right. That's fine. That's fine. I mean, whatever.

Look, like Ray J said, I don't care. I don't care. Go ahead and try and break. I don't try and break my glass. They won't. I can't. You can't. You can't. Ray, come on. Go ahead. Break and break them Try and break my glasses You can't Ray, come on

Go ahead, break them I'm going to break them, Ray Go ahead I don't care Inside jokes It is teacher appreciation week Last week was teacher appreciation day Oh, is it their week now there there's

i think i think it's like at my kid's school there's a teacher appreciation like week oh yeah so i think it's just yeah yeah so just to like give some check-ins of what that looks like so on tuesday on teacher appreciation day in the united states you could get one free select meal at tga fridays let's go and a complimentary egg mcmuffin at some mcdonald's locations oh so i think we're done here like that's all i just wanted to check in to make sure they were being taken care of and it sounds like they are. You know what's wild, though, too? Like, as you say this, USA Today has like a thing of like, here are all like the deals you can get for Teacher Appreciation Week. Right.

It's like, how about like, here's the legislation that we should be supporting. They're like, hey, man, you want to get a free moo moo shake at Moo House? What's Moo Yaw Burger? Like, they literally have the Office Depot, man. Like, that's so offensive where they're like office depot man come get some fucking school supplies yeah that you pay for that you have to pay for out of pocket out of here anyway but also if like if you're gonna give people free crocs and stuff do that i guess yeah yeah i mean i definitely don't stop doing, but it just feels like that is the American answer to it. That's the least corporations can do.

Now, what's the least legislators can do? This is a yes and situation. Yes. Not a no but. This is a yes to my. Yes. I will take your free fired house sub sandwich. Thank you.

Yes. And a living wage. Right. sandwich. Thank you. Yes. And a living wage. Right. Many teachers earn less than a family living wage. And a 2022 study found that teachers earn 23.5 percent less than the comparable college graduates, like people with the same level of education. Right. Going into being a teacher, one of the most important jobs in our society is like a bad financial decision. Like I remember when I was like getting out of school, like the whole, those who can't do teach like that being just a thing that shitty people said.

Right. But yeah, there's just a growing shortage of teachers. More than three quarters of States are experiencing a teacher shortage, but Arizona has the answer. So one Arizona school district is building a tiny company town of modestly priced studio apartments next to the school company town that's gotta keep an eye on you you know that feels penitentiary-esque

some good for school spirit yeah chino Unified School District is using federal money to build 10 studio units, each 400 square feet. 400 square feet. Oh, great. On a vacant lot behind an elementary school where teachers will pay roughly 500. Oh, they'll pay? But at a steep discount, Miles. Just like the TGI Friday's the fuck deal. Yo, if you got to live in a fucking 400-square-foot studio apartment and already live next to the school.

Next to your workplace. I believe. Within sightline. You're supposed to be like, because wouldn't the real company township be like, and you don't have to go nowhere because we own your ass. Yeah. Don't then charge them rent. That's ridiculous.

550 per month, which is below market rate but you are uh living at work which is tough i remember when you could get a studio in la in 2009 for 550 yeah below market is such a ridiculous statement considering that rent is so inflated right now it's it's it's like saying it's honestly that is probably a little bit above what it should be for that amount of space anyway so to say that is just like yeah below market just means like not as greedy yeah exactly like and also 400 square feet on the premises of where you work is below market in terms of what a renter would probably be looking for but that's not taken into consideration when people are talking about this. Yeah, exactly.

But yeah, so teachers pay can vary widely in some states like Oklahoma and Mississippi. Teachers make an average of less than $50,000 a year. And even when you get people who are trying to address the problem or claim they're trying to address the problem, it's oftentimes in a super shitty way. You're not going to believe this, but Sarah Huckabee Sanders recently signed the Learns Act into law, which raised the minimum salary for teachers to $50,000 in Arkansas, which first of all, below the living wage in Arkansas. Second of all, it was rushed through because the pay raise was basically a smokescreen for a voucher program that will decimate the public school system. Aha. And there's Florida like bans on discussing gender, gender identity, sexual orientation and sexual reproduction.

Of course. Of course. Thrown in there. Let's go. Yeah. You got it. Yeah. You come in like, yeah, yeah.

Like we've done the calculus. We can afford to raise the pay this much because these vouchers right are about to fuck things up on the other end that will help out a ton yeah man that's wow it's again like you're saying like even when outwardly you're trying to do something right or at least in this instance in arkansas where she's the governor uh you're still getting a fat middle finger yeah bernie introduced a bill to make a federal minimum wage for teachers that would raise public school teacher salaries nationwide to $60,000 or higher. And, of course, the GOP pushed back, claiming teachers should be paid more. But it shouldn't be the big government telling them that. It should be the states, which is exactly what's happening now, and it's clearly not working.

telling them that should be the states which is exactly what's happening now and it's clearly not working uh but biden also seems to be reluctant to make any big moves on paying teachers because you know he's got to run it run america like a fucking corporation and so also shame on you man your fucking partner your wife is an educator yeah and you can't the fuck and whatever i don't i'm not acting surprised i'm just like fuck this guy's like you can't the fuck and whatever i don't i'm not acting surprised i'm just like fuck this guy's like you can't even this is these are the easiest wins to carve out as a politician there's no l's again unless you're unless you're worried about the sounds that your donors make or like dark money groups are gonna make but like for people from their perspective there's not a single person who's like man teachers are paid way too much not a single person i just watched a video this dude

get fucking punched out by his student because he took their cell phone because they were cheating on a test yeah and i was like oh my man took one to the eye and then the same teacher got pepper spray i was gonna say it was the same teacher same teacher in tennessee that was the latest one he got pepper spray the clip before was when he got fucking punched out by a kid who's like taking my phone because i'm cheating on the test i'm like man the shit that people have to go through and the lack of support like even like that teacher who was shot by the student who brought a gun to school they're like oh that's uh that's a workplace injury that should be covered by our insurance like not anything nothing beyond there's no other real

negligence here hey just what comes with the territory like really yeah biden's plan last year was to encourage governors to tap into covid relief money to bump up teachers back so bitch yeah exactly you need to show me the entire breakdown i mean like yes could i go online and look at the entire budget and then see where i can square a few dollars here and there yeah it's called the defense budget thank you very much it's just like i you need i don't know it's just so it's in a desperate political moment taking these easy w's seems like priority number fucking one he's not desperate though he's not desperate it's because they know man the biggest fucking gift these Republicans gave the Democrats was them going so hard on abortion.

Yeah. So now all they're going to do is like, we're going to codify Roe v. Wade. No, you're not going to keep dangling that shit because it's, it's such a powerful, like motivational mechanism that you've stumbled upon by accident.

And that's why I'm like, I don't know, like, get ready for barely any promises 2024. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, you know, I agree with you that it may not be as like desperate, but it's still just it's I feel like the bigger a swing or rather the more because the pendulum just swings back one way versus the other. You know, you go from Obama to then Trump. And now we're like looking at Biden, but like giving us a an extra push the other way since the since we are not in such a desperate political situation to maybe get Biden in 2024 is just like, why aren't we thinking to do as many positive things as possible so that the swing back the other way isn't so drastic? Because it's just like, I feel like it's just setting it up for an even harder pendulum swing the other way to get whoever it would be in 28. Well, we talked about this. It's because there's this, like, because of all the consultants and that have been working on decades on electoral politics, it's like it all follows this same thing of like, you speak slightly to the left, you don't deliver

on any of it. And that's how they nudge it a little bit more is by saying whatever in the primary and then in the general. And then don't deliver on it. And again, because they know at the end of the day the thing that they're like, man, we don't really even have to do this because

what the Republicans are proposing is so terrifying that it's more just to be like, yeah, we don't have to, don't, don't promise too much. And that's what's so cynical about it. And there's also that like really dumb accepted wisdom of like, don't go too far left. You know, in a reelection bid, you don't want that to happen. You don't want to get in over your skis promising this stuff. When meanwhile, we're in like when you read the climate of like just the tone of the room and what people are asking for they want they want this shit to go left too too far left pay teachers 15 000 more dollars a year too far left and that's but that's what's wild right is like they've co-op

just to be able to say like oh it's too much no, what we're saying is like the bear mini. Truly. They there's also evidence that this strategy of just generally gesturing towards Trump might not be working. I mean, it's it's a fucking poll. So polls, who the fuck knows? polls who the fuck knows but he's apparently according to a new abc news washington post poll set to lose by seven points in a hypothetical general election against trump so all the like this is the smart move and he's just being like what do you want to do have trump in there and biden's like a shoe in to beat trump i think that's probably not the case like everybody assumes

that you know, whenever, like the same thing that happened last time is going to happen again. And it just, that never is the case. Right. Everyone. Yeah. And I think for as much as Biden isn't Trump,

that's not enough for people. It's not, it's not enough. People are way too in tune with what they are owed and what their situation looks like that. They're like, you can't just be like, I don't know, man. We got to do better. They're like, hold on. You make

the decisions, actually. We got to do better. That's why you got to vote, man. Maybe if Biden's physical state didn't have him looking like the fucking Nazgul up there, I would be a little more like, well, you never know. Maybe he's got some new tricks up his

sleeve, but my man is like, he looks like he's about to blow away. Like he's threadbare. I've got nothing going on. Was that Jerry Seinfeld who just came in there for a second? I feel like I just heard Jerry Seinfeld pop in. What'd he say? I forget what you were saying. He looks like a basketball.

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that's okay i had batman logos going all up the side of the leg i remember my parents like i will i will fall asleep and they will have to take them off of me because I'm like, no, these are my pajamas also. Yeah. And like, I just, pardon me. Anyway. So I think that year did make a mark. And the, you know, brain trusted Hollywood has looked at the metrics and we're like, we're just going to do that one over again. Because. 89 this thing? All right.

Yeah. So biggest movie of the year, as miles mentioned as miles had on on his child hips on his child legs batman so shout out legs so in that in place of batman we are getting the flash a new movie that according to the trailers is just basically michael keaton as batman again like it's full up of like michael keaton saying i'm batman like his first line in the movie also you want to get nuts let's get nuts which i guess is a line from the first one i forgot that oh yeah that's also for a comeback you are my number one i remember that wait but does michael Keaton say you want to get nuts?

Let's get nuts? Or the Joker does? I think that's the Joker line. Yeah. Feels like Michael Keaton. Oh, it is Michael Keaton. Yeah. Wow.

Like his Bruce Wayne is a little, it's like, I would not want to, I guess that's true of all Bruce, Bruce's Wayne, but just a guy I wouldn't want to hang out with. No. Seems like kind of a creep.

Dude, a billionaire with, like, trauma. It's like he could just go to maybe a couple therapy sessions for. Collects old weapons. Yeah. Yeah. So, anyways, that's coming back. People are like, oh, my God, it's amazing. Second biggest movie of 1989 was Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.

This year we have what will, according to Harrison Ford, be the last Indiana Jones movie. Again, I think he said that about Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Again, they have just wildly missed on the name that they've given it. Like the first three were all all made sense to me. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, too much. This one, The Dial of Destiny. Does that do anything for you guys? No. That sounds like

it would do something for a 70-year-old person, I was going to say. It also sounds like a bad rom-com title, Dial of Destiny. Love is one call away. I forgot to mention this when you brought up the flash movie there was a article that was going around last week because ezra miller you know they got all this

fucking legal trouble and like all these allegations that we've heard constantly about and we've seen it on video ourselves of if this person's acting wild in public truly wild the fucking the production designer of the film said that the film, oh, hold on. I just have to, I just have to find this. This shit, how do you, how do you even come out and say this? How do you say this? Basically said that the film is, looks so good that quote, people will forget their, like, this, that they will forget their history of abuse because the movie looks so lit. How do you throw yourself under the bus?

Like, what is the point of falling on someone else's sword to be like, no, no, no, it's chill. All that bad shit they did. You're going to forget about that.

Yeah. What is the point? Cause if people were just asking this in this article, this interview with the CBC, this guy, Paul Osterberry said, Osterberry says he's not too concerned about how the story surrounding Miller will affect the film.

People will forget that. This film could star Woody Allen and everyone would still go because that's how good it looks. That's how good the production design was. That's wild. So anyways, we got Dial of Destiny, which I'm pretty sure the last crusade was built as like the last Indiana Jones movie. So they're doing the exact same move as they did in 1989. Also coming out the little mermaid Disney's remake of a movie that came out in fall of 1989.

And what, like if the previous live action remakes of Disney films have taught us anything, it's that they will not be adding much no to this like they don't change no a whole lot this is just a skinning of like the original film with live actors and and better performers i think i think we're gonna get some good i mean the performance is out of it'll be better but yeah at the end of the day you're not having to do much lifting creatively because like yeah that that script we already own and just in terms of a straight straight up transposition of what was happening

in 1989 they're really they're really doing it have i have i have i been on record on the show talking about my disdain for live action remakes of disney movies because i know that we have talked about this in the office for years basically since the jungle book and lion king you just and and I know, Jack, I know you, I mean, well, I'm not going to put you on the spot and say you share this level of disdain, but I know that you too have observed you just cannot

make these animal faces do what a Disney movie does in animation. You just cannot. You cannot, and you may not. And you may not. That's why people are so mad about Flounder. Yeah.

We've been talking about Flounder and Sebastian since they announced this. I've been like, first of all, it didn't work in The Lion King. Nope. And those are beautiful animals. Yes. Undersea creatures are ugly and terrifying looking. And they are supposed to, like,

they're cute in the original movie, but like flounder looks really scary. I mean, he looked like a motherfucking flounder. Yes. He looks, yeah. Flounders,

which by the way, like actual flounders have their eyes on the, eyes on the side of their face. So what is even, what, what is this even? It's a tropical fish of some sort. Some thing.

Tropical of some sort. something of some sort yeah i'm just like what if instead of the original round cute faced cartoon character it was like a a fish skeleton mixed with like pete davidson like feels like there you go what what they've gone with right i'm just never i'm i you know i am i I am, I'll say this, like, you know, happy for Halle Bailey, like getting out there and becoming the star, even a bigger star than she already is. Like,

this is, of course, a huge moment for her. We will see some awesome, the music that will come out of this will be amazing. Much like the lion King, the music coming out of that was amazing, but just stop it with the animals.

Like, what are you, what is, I don't know. Like we can can you can't do it just no one like i wouldn't care if flounder looked all cute in the live action version like that's a weird that's the one thing i feel like people are like yo we didn't need to be that real find find the cutest face finding neo that shit. It's okay if it's a little Pixar-y. You own that. Do it. Nobody's out here being like, man, mermaids is real. This is not how they would be

interacting with the undersea life. Get out of here, man. I'm fine with the mermaids. I don't want to look like I'm seeing some shit that washed up on the Santa Monica beach. You know what I mean? This flounder, he looks busted. He looks like he's got a problem. They say he looks like

Steve Buscemi, I think is what they're saying on Twitter. There are cuter, like with flounder, I was like, maybe they'll find, you know, as Katie Golden has pointed out on Twitter, there are cute fish. Like there are parrot fish that, as long as you're not too freaked out by the fact that they have a set of human teeth up front,

which, you know, takes a little while to get over. But they're goofy. They do fun stuff. But they were just like, nope. Uh-uh. It's going to look like they've seen some shit. They're going to make it look like Flounder has seen some dark shit. Oh, yeah.

Also, in my own fear of not giving people enough credit, like the 3D animators who are given these jobs to work on these specific things obviously do incredible work. And the shit looks awesome, but it is a effort completely in vain in that you are trying to recreate an emotion that is incapturable in a 3D animated space when you're trying to make something look quote unquote real. You just can't do it and that's the whole point. That was the whole point of Disney movies in the first place.

Flounder they had options. Sebastian was a no win by the way. A total no win. Craps have never looked anything like something that's not a bug. A sea bug.

And is Sebastian going to rip his own arm off? No. But that's what they do. When they're in a bit of a spot. You know what I mean? Grow that shit back. I will forgive it if Sebastian rips his own arm off in the movie. Give me that.

Terrify some children. Teach them about Arthur Potts. So up to this point, you might be saying, all right, guys, but these are huge movies, and nostalgia has a cycle. Ghostbusters 2 came out in June of 89, and later this year, I didn't know this, we're getting the sequel to Ghostbusters afterlife.

They're doing a sequel to that. And, and this sequel takes them to New York city. So they're really. Baby. Oh, yeah. Wow.

Yeah. Okay. There's also the new Ninja turtles animated movie, which even though the original Ninja turtles movie didn't come out until 90 like 89 was the year of full oh yeah ninja turtles like this was when the cereal was introduced the tv show the video games by the way this detail on the ninja turtle cereal i had forgotten the cereal was described on the box as crunchy sweetened ninja nets with ninja turtle marshmallows pizza shaped marshmallows were later added the ninja net

cereal pieces looked suspiciously similar to czechs cereal so they were just like oh yeah these are ninja nets you know yeah you know how one of the ninja turtles has a net with them at all times yep do this classic it's not any i love that marketing person be like well obviously we're just making this with loose checks and we're adding our own marshmallows like what the fuck we're gonna call these um i could have just gone wheaties and talked about the similarity between wheaties and like turtle food, you know, right? Right. Flaky that flaky like fish turtle food.

There's also on TV in 2023. We're getting well, Roseanne is already here. Quantum Leap is here. Doogie Howser dropping the second season. Was Doogie Howser 89? I think so. Yeah. Is it who's the Boss reboot in the works?

Baywatch remake that nobody asked for? Even Matlock is coming back? Matlock? Really? Yeah. Well, I don't know. I'll be morbid, but isn't anybody who watched Matlock probably not with us anymore? I'm still here, man.

That's what I've been saying for years. Matlock fans, we are still here hold on do not erase you're gonna be on a watch list because joe biden is still our president facts okay yeah favorite show you know i mean yeah he's still here no you ain't wrong yeah and like even like the reuniting of matt damon and ben affleck was about like the invention of the air jordan which was you know probably hitting its original peak popularity in like 89 it's it's just yeah we're we're stuck it's fine it is it's what what it is did you guys see air i did miles no i heard michael jordan wasn't in it So I said fuck that

He has quote unquote one line where he says hello I loved it, I loved air, I thought it was great Jack? Did you? I did not I remember him saying this last week I wanted to like it Iron this out

What didn't you like about it? Because I'm totally, I mean obviously i'm completely open to that and you know and but we know how toxic you can get when we start debating movies oh i get toxic yeah take a breath first take a breath we know you we know it um it just i don't know it felt thin to me like it opened with a montage of like 80s nostalgia that just felt like it could have been on like like all the needle drops were just like so down the middle 80s hit songs the characters watchmen movie yeah like that the the speech the climactic speech that matt damon gives to michael jordan like didn't really i don't know it just didn't resonate with me as somebody

who's like okay you have michael jordan about like the way that he discovers he's great is by watching and re-watching the tape of him hitting the game-winning shot in the championship game and then like that's the only footage like what did they only license a single piece of footage of michael jordan playing because well they wasted all that money on licensing all those songs so it's kind of like they had to go where was it gonna be i don't know it just felt like there was not is it i think it's partially like as a person who grew up around basketball and who like i don't know like has like read books about like jordan and what

makes him different and stuff like that right it just felt shallow and kind of reductive okay wow i think that is a completely fair take yeah oh you were gonna say okay like that's some old head ass take no i mean i think i think that's completely fair because honestly one of my favorite things about it is that it's short i love that yeah i love that it's quick because the whole thing is my thing about the movie is that if you go into that movie i don't think there's anybody who's watching that movie unless you are like jack and someone who has grown up with basketball or is intimately a brain yeah exactly or it's just intimately familiar with like listen about how there you go shout out miles jack on my boosies but like intimately familiar with the i don't know the

shoe game of any time before the 90s it's like yeah your association with michael jordan is probably like entwined with nike like you probably don't even see mike you don't you don't think of michael with any other shoe period so if you're watching that movie you're thinking about that or like getting to the end like well i mean i know what's going to happen like what what is there even i know who this guy is exactly i know who this guy is what is even what is even the point of this so the fact that it was so kind of like short and to the point and just i mean you know if i'm being real i mean phil knight and some of his business practices i think are of course

deplorable and political giving practices yeah but they use like the nike mottos like the core mottos that like he has up on his wall of like job's not done till it's done and like all this stuff they use that as like they they cut to that as like little chyrons that they like show you in between scenes. And I don't know, it just felt like spiritually empty to me to like tell this story about, it's like, wow,

Nike almost didn't become the massive international behemoth that is doing damage. When it already was, it's just that it didn't become even bigger. So is the, behemoth that is doing damage all over the place. When it already was. Right. It's just that it didn't become even bigger. So is the movie good on an airplane? I think it would be a good

airplane watch. I also think I might watch it again with my wife and be like, oh, I actually enjoyed this. I think 90% of my movie takes are like, yeah, I just wasn't like in a great mood. Wasn't like feeling that movie at that time.

You know? I will tell you, we've come full circle on this take. I like it. Yeah. I will say that one of my least favorite things about the show, The Bear, is how much they're constantly like,

Chicago. This is Chicago. And the beginning of the of air I was watching it just like do you have to hammer this so hard 80sness to make the point because it's not like the rest of the movie isn't trying to hammer that point home the entire time. It's like at no point are you like, I wonder what time this movie is set in. Miles, there's like a montage with people doing Rubik's Cubes and playing Atari games.

It's too long. It is too long. You know what it is? I think in the end, it's for us, but not really. Yes. Because we were there, dude. I don't need this fucking recap. But I'm sure for younger people who would see it,

they'd be like, what the wow? What was this time in the world? I almost want to say that is what I feel like studio notes do to a movie. Because I feel the same way about any show that's about video games or something. You're watching the show and it's just like,ly what is this video game exactly this is annoyingly hitting the hammer on the head it's like yeah i've heard a pac-man thank you right yeah i don't know i because like i like the social network despite the fact that like i'm you know i don't think facebook is cool you love so

like the fact that i like watched this and like wasn't on board with like loving phil knight and sonny baccaro like that i've i've done that before i've liked it before it was just like something just felt like pat and sort of lazy about it to me well i mean look this is our time because clearly if this feels with all this stuff coming back around i mean it's like it's like partial studio and network laziness and the other part is like more millennial aged people probably influencing things too like on someone like you know that shit would you know that shit would go although they should be hiring us because we got some real ideas over here yeah Well, yeah. And also this might take like as far as film, like the film industry is concerned, is objectively wrong.

Like it got an A cinema score. Everybody seems to really love this movie except for me. So I'm not. And I've listened to like even the people from like Blank Check and the Flagrant ones, like all those people like this movie. So I just I don't know. Hey, look, Jack, that's fine. You as an individual, that's how you took it. That's how it goes. No, I'm bad.

I'm bad. I shouldn't. It reveals something bad about me. Well, then if you're bad, then I'm Wesley Snipes. Hey. You think you're bad? Thank you When are they going to remake the bad video? I had to put that shit out there

Who directed that? Who directed the bad video? I feel like it was Scorsese or something like that It was, yeah, Scorsese Scorsese directed the bad video Wow Holy shit That was 87.

87. Wow. What a time to be alive. What a time. Well, Miles. Thank you so much for having me. Yes. Miles, such a pleasure having you on your own show.

Appreciate that. Yeah, you can find him. Thanks for showing up. Oh, my bad. Daniel, such a pleasure having you on the show. Pleasure to be here. Where can people find you and follow you? pleasure having you on the show pleasure to be here where can people also pleasure to follow you you can find me uh all over the internet at dj underscore d-a-n-l damn you can find me on

twitter instagram twitch and tiktok and i'm saying it here and now i'm writing twitter until the wheels fall off i'm not going to blue sky i'm not going to any of these other things when twitter is done i'm never posting again it's over yeah what was that thing you're saying about white supremacy no say the whole say the whole thing uh anyway so i'm i'm writing twitter until the wheels fall off and then i'm done with that shit so if you all of a sudden seem to stop posting on twitter it's because the wheels have fallen off entirely what you could say they already have but huh yeah i'm curious what you, defines the wheels falling off Twitter? Because I'm like, I'm not necessarily...

I'm not protesting it by taking my... I don't post enough to be like, my content will live elsewhere. Right. Because I just, I'm using it less, and every now and then I'll look at it. But what, to you, I'm curious, what is your, the wheels have well and truly come off,

and I'm off this? I think, I mean, you know, if i were to start listing things i think it'd be pretty easy to see that a lot of those things are kind of like already happening yeah but i think if there is a total separation of the people who you know we trust as like news sources and just like reputable minds being silenced in different ways like purposefully silenced where are not allowed to tweet anymore in this and the and the platform truly becomes a space that is exclusively run by people who actually pay for the service and there's no way to access it without having like bought into elon's twitter i think the wheels will have

completely come off right because you can still kind of get what you need to get yeah i mean i know to your point though there's the algorithm they're trying to game things too to keep yeah some things i mean arguably i can still use twitter more or less the way that i used it by just hanging out in my following tab and just not looking at the for you and ignoring every blue check because yeah it's pretty it's pretty clear who decided to pay for the money and decided that was worth it oh yeah i don't really because those people because now blue checks are just the people who come in with the worst fucking takes truly like wow and in a way it is funny how subconsciously you're like oh that must be like a professional

who's in here dehumanizing unhoused people. And I'm like, no, that's someone with 14 followers. Exactly. Sending his rent money. So and so bunch of numbers, as we like to say. Yeah. Yeah. Daniel, is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?

There is. And the funny thing is, I think I'm going to do the thing where you're describing a picture on the old Twitter. But I'll share this in the chat right now. There's been one of these memes. Y'all ever heard of these things? These memes? Oh, may-mays? Yeah, I love them may-mays.

It's where someone quote tweets a tweet, but it's a picture of someone saying the tweet. And have you guys seen Kunk on Earth? Yes. Yeah. Okay okay i will say i think it's kind of a joke that only works for one episode but it's so goddamn funny and it's the host of kunk on earth saying this thing and i think this dude is one of the guys in chap chapo trap house i think isn't that who this guy is or maybe it's just a picture of that dude I don't know it looks like it could be virtual Texas or Jonathan Jason Schwartz yeah I don't know for a second I thought it was Jason Schwartz right exactly but no I think but anyway the the tweet the tweet that I the tweet that I love so much is it's the woman from kunk on earth I I don't know I don't think I can do the the accent, but it's easy to think of Italy

as nothing more than spaghetti, garlic bread and Parmesan cheese. But a quick look at their history reveals they invented fascism. And thinking of Kunk on Earth saying that is so good. Wait, what is Kunk on Earth? It is a show on Netflix that you gotta watch. Give it

one episode. It's kind of like Dave and Attenborough if they were just wrong about everything. He was an idiot. If they were an idiot. Oh, I love that. Like a parody? Ollie G.

Oh, shit. Hosts a BBC show. How the fuck do I not? Okay. Give it an episode and you are going to fucking love it. I'm in.

I'm in off that description. Amazing. It's really funny. Miles, wonderful having you as well. Thank you so much for you as well where can people find you and is there a work of media you've been enjoying oh man find me on where there's at symbols uh miles of gray and also you know find jack and i on our basketball podcast miles and jack i'm at boosties where we continue to follow the ups and downs of the NBA playoffs.

Right now, it's up. It's up. If it's up, then it's up. Hopefully, then it's stuck. I would love for it to be stuck for the Lakers, and I'd love for the current trend for the Sixers to be stuck. Like I said, last time the Sixers and Lakers played each other in the finals, 9-11 happened the following September.

So if it doesn't happen, I will say that was for the good of humanity. And I will use that take till the wheels come off. You can also find me on 420 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra, where right now we're talking about love is blind. And wow, that's something else. I don't really have any tweets that I like. So I'll just say, you know, go. Honestly go honestly here's my thing i'll challenge y'all if you see somebody selling food like we have good street vending culture in los angeles hell yeah if you live in a place

where your street vending culture is like emerging or whatever i really challenge you when you see people in your area serving up something, try it. Yeah. Because I bought this banana pudding from this lady on the street. Street banana pudding. What? Oh, my God. Bro, drop the link.

What? I had to hit her on her Venmo. I was like, yo, can I give you this? And she's like, oh, just use it. She's like, I hit her through her Venmo. She's just getting started. Does she have an Instagram? She didn't even have none of that.

She's just getting started. I'll let you know. This banana pudding was so good. And again, it's all and that's what I get for entertaining you know, just people in your community doing something, you know, sharing their gifts and talents. In LA I think we're a little bit spoiled because most people who are

street vending have fantastic food uh but i will say that yeah just just get out there support your local person just hustling yeah yeah you know as long as it's more you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien uh tweet i've been enjoying p enjoying PJ Evans tweeted loudly at CVS. So basically, fuck Walgreens, right? Colin Crawford tweeted Midwestern colleges will all have weird slogans like grip them horkers. And it's like, okay, dude,

you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.

Miles, is there a song that you think our listeners might enjoy? Yeah, just some indie. Some indie rock I've been listening to. We've gone out on some tracks. Dial of Destiny? Oh, different indie. Oh, yeah. Also, whoever plays, if there's a flashback to that actor who plays young indie, please stay safe.

Because the last person to do it was River Phoenix. Oh, yeah. And that was in Last Crusade, wasn't it? So we've gone out on this band before, Men I Trust. Great indie group. This track is called Billy Toppy, and it's just got like a fantastic just like driving pick

bass line, but you know, I like the chord progression. We're not getting something just real easy, like four chord nonsense. No, this is a little bit fun. So check out Billy Toppy by Men I Trust. Alright, well the Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio,

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