The Daily Zeitgeist - 28 Trends Later 6/23: Iran War, NYC Mayoral Race, Abelardo Avellaneda-Delgado

Episode Date: June 23, 2025

In this edition of 28 Trends Later, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, the brand new war in Iran, an update on the NYC mayoral race, the suspicious death of ICE detainee Abelardo Avellaneda-Delgado and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I couldn't bear to watch that rest of that finals game. That fucking man. It was such a whole weekend edging game seven, just like watching fucking highlights from game six, watching Pacers highlights, watching OKC highlights. Yeah. Get just like this is the ultimate showdown. And it was looking like that. It was looking like that. But we knew we were like, yeah, we have nice things. Well, no, but also it's like the whole thing with like, oh, yeah He's injured just the calf strain and we're all you me Sarah unanimously like that's gotta be fall off the bone

Tender by the end of this game. Yeah, like he's going for it and sure enough Every time every time that story happens There just needs to be a Google alert that pay Adam silver Anytime someone's like yeah, but he's gonna gut it out with a calf strain. I've strain is like buddy That you're going to be in Achilles that Andy's wearing the Andy where zero and right you just tripled your chance wild to aim Tatum you got Dame to Wow. I didn't even think about another absolute zero who had his three number zeros Best score on their team or second best in case first or second. Yeah, that shit

What like that was violence when that shit popped like that? Sometimes you'll like go back and they'll like zoom in zoom in in, zoom in. And then you'll see like a small like little twinge that shit was twerking. Yeah. Wait, so you're saying that they all had the number zero. They all had the number single zero and blew their Achilles this season. What is this final ten donation or something? Yes, it's yeah, it's final ten donation, Brian. That's exactly what it is. Thank you. And thank you

for putting in those words. But yeah, man, I was sad. Yeah, definitely. I was Switch from Matrix, you know? Not like this. Not like this. Just like great shoes, great books take you places, through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never forget. I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies. I'm Danielle Robay, and this is Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club, the new podcast from Hello Sunshine and iHeart Podcasts.

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No headlines, no outrage, just silence. So we started digging and uncovered city officials bent on protecting their own. Listen to Finding Sexy Sweat on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello the internet and welcome to this Monday Week Trend edition of Dirt Daily Side Guys! Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's a podcast where we take a deep dive into American shared consciousness. This is the Monday episode where we tell you what was trending over the weekend and what's trending this morning. My name is Jack O'Brien. That over there? Well, that's Mr. Miles Gray! Yeah, it's Mr. Miles. It smells great. It smells great. It's just weird. You know, and you've, when you, when you're doing the history loop,

I already seen this one happen before. I know we've seen this one. I had a, they're recycling this. I had a pretty decently formed brain last time We did this I wasn't no baby last time we did this I knew and now we're Time we knew it last time and they were trying to deceive us last time Like they actually did the groundwork to deceive us and people with functioning brains were like, no, this seems like you're lying. It seems, it seems like you decided to go do this war and then spent two months creating documents and being like that picture there. Yeah, that's,

that's a something we're calling a weapon of mass destruction. Is because like George Bush had a nine 11 to kind of get people like, huh? Yeah. Right. And knowing how lax this entire administration is with fucking everything, I'm like, God, I feel like they're probably they're probably like on Polly market right now. Yeah. The highest. Juniper and something happened.

Yeah. Yikes. Or at least an 810, you know, something just give us, you know, but I'm sure I'm sure there's talk behind the scenes like how we get some sort of galvanizing national tragedy. Yeah, the same people who were in the studios being like, what's our next Barbenheimer? They probably bring in those people and be like, what's like our 9-11 right now?

Right. And could we pair it with another national tragedy to do a Barbenhimer of national tragedies that then we could both start a war overseas that everybody's behind and also take away people's rights at home? We need like a nine harbor. You know what I mean?

A Pearl-11, if you will. Because look at that, man. We got off our asses. We entered World War two We got to turn the Japanese and declare them fucking enemies. I mean guys come on guys hook. We need a nine harbor. That's right this motherfucker does not care about like this shit is endangering people's lives for Decade decades. Yes, this is, he doesn't give a fuck. Anyways, that's some stuff we're gonna be talking about a little bit later on.

My overrated Lunchables, pizza Lunchables. No. Yeah. I'm going small with my overrated. Small ball? Oh, you're going to small ball. We're going small ball. We're playing money ball over here.

All right. I'm going twin towers. All right. What Miles, what's something you think's overrated? Oh, fuck. The fucking Dodgers. I say that as I wear a Dodgers hat, but my God, what a fucking disgraceful organization

with everything that's happening in Los Angeles. Absolutely mum about ice raids that impacts at conservatively 40% of the fan base directly. Direct, like a threat to their safety and freedom. 100%, and I mentioned this before, not only were the Los Angeles Dodgers, the fucking, the reason countless people were displaced

in Chavez Ravine through eminent domain to create Dodger Stadium, and like the work it took to get Angelino's back on the good graces of the Dodgers. Once they had that, then you have all this stuff where it looks like basically they were like letting ice use Dodger Stadium's parking lot. And then they got caught and then pushed them out and people like, oh, they pushed the ice out of the Dodger Stadium parking lot. But there's just so much inaction happening. They just recently said they're gonna be like, here, we're gonna give a million dollars for people. They said for direct financial assistance

for families of immigrants impacted by recent events, they said, just by recent events. Just fucking do it. Just any recent events, they said, just by recent events. Just fucking just any recent events. There's anybody impacted by any. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so vague. And I think the other thing, too, is like, you know, a lot of people like, like, you know, I was talking with a couple of friends like, should I like, are we against the Dodgers? I'm like, I mean, the organization,

but what the Dodgers represent is so much bigger than these owners, like especially for L.A. like this shit is like this. It's L.A. like it's inextricable from what the city is. But the human beings that currently are at the sort of puppet strings of the organization, garbage, garbage, garbage. Is this the same people who are now at the puppet strings of the Los Angeles Lakers? It's a mix. I mean, there is some overlap too.

I mean, Walter definitely is the biggest shareholder there, but I'm not sure how much he does the real day-to-day things. Do we say something about the illegal kidnappings that are happening in our city? Or do we just kind of duck it low? Dude, Dave Roberts, the manager said some shit. He's like, I'm like, wait, like, in the week that it was happening, he's like, I'm not, uh, I'm not educated enough to really speak on this. Like,

total coward response is just so fucking disheartening to just see this. Um, but either way, I mean, the LA Dodger logo still stands as a symbol for Angelino's but yeah the organization my god Wet fart comm wet fart comm go check it out Yeah, and you can find me at wet fart comm. Yeah, it fucking sucks I mean like also just be more explicit because they did this thing where the everyone was like, oh, we're the fuck you gonna say something This is disgraceful. And then a few days later like after that, they're like, oh We're to say something? This is disgraceful. And then a few days later, like after that, they're like, oh, we're going to say something like what they put out. I think we're going to say something.

Get ready. Get ready. And then I'm like, how does it need 25 years to do it? Yeah. Well, now they're like a million dollars. Right. For people, for people affected by recent events. Yeah. And we won't be any more specific than that because we don't want to, like, alienate the people who are in support of this or our good friends who are using our parking lot as a fucking base of operation. Yeah. There was like this.

I don't know if you saw that clip where it looked like LAPD was chasing ice out of Dodger Stadium. Yeah. And like there was some dipshit on Blue Sky who was like, wow, LAPD, way to stick up for L.A. they kicked out ice from from Dodger Stadium It's like no the Dodgers got caught with ice there, and then they're like yeah guys you guys you guys kind of gotta go Sorry and like Rickham complete like people don't go home, but you can't stay here. Stay here fellas. I'm sorry trust me LAPD like it's like when when people drive Uber and Lyft, okay? He's gonna be like, all right,

let me just fucking put my ski mask on and put my jeans on and I'll be ice for a few hours. They are working together. Like this isn't, this is nonsense. But anyway, shout out to all the people that have been protesting outside of the stadium peacefully because again, this isn't fucking, I don't, they just think that again, whenever we have these like moments where huge

failures of our society flare up and people take to the streets, like you have like the corporations sort of still rely on these old reflexes. Like maybe it would just be quiet. Maybe you just like say a million dollars. I don't know. Without realizing, you know, I mean, whatever. I, I, this always happens. And I'm like, why do I expect so much from the multi-billion dollar organization? Yeah, run by billionaires.

Yeah, it's just, it is what it is. In the name of profit. Yeah. Shout out to the people who are like, you know, chasing ice around and like honking their horns. That's, you know, also been fun to watch, but I was listening to an interview with Hugo Soto-Martinez, former guest on our show, city council district 13 council person, who was saying that it's

just getting, they're getting more efficient with how they do these strikes. In the past, it was like they set up, they're like they're cracking their knuckles for an hour, giving people time. And now it's like you hear they're at this Home Depot parking lot and then an hour later, they're gone or like even a half hour later. And like they've like taken 20 to 30 people, you know,

they're being very efficient in terms of abducting people. Doesn't seem like they're being any more intentional about who they're going after. Yeah, so they're not discerning. Yeah, just very, very indiscriminate. All right, mine is just like everything going onto phones, like phone, all the app-based shit. Like we have a ceiling fan that's controlled by an app.

You fucking idiot. You got a ceiling fan that's controlled by an app. This was one that we inherited when we got the house, but it's in the back where like my mother-in-law lives. And so now that just means that like, I need to go turn the fan on and off for her. What? There's no fucking switch? There's no switch. Yeah. I mean, I think we had a remote at one point, but it's just

app-based. Like that's the, and like that was, I remember like people being like, oh yeah, it's cool. Like the reviews were like, yeah, you can do it all on your phone. I'm just like, that is, it just doesn't work for people over a certain age. Not even for us, I feel like, what's wrong with like- It's like annoying and like- Fumbling around with the wall. You have to update it.

Yeah, exactly. And be like, where is it, where is it? There, there it is, it's on. Nah, it's all, it's smart house. You have a smart house, that's actually why. What if happens if your wifi goes down? Oh, then you have fucked house. Yeah, there happens if the what if happens if your Wi-Fi goes down? Oh, you're you have fucked house Yeah, there's a like we have an old speaker system. That's controlled through an app that they just like no longer update

It's just like all right So we're like fucked then But yeah, I don't know. Just give me like an analog remote control or a button switch I feel like the lesson of the iPhone was like one button, simple, easy to use. And now it's the opposite. Like that piece of technology has just been loaded on to just with all these like poorly designed apps

that are like completely counterintuitive. They're supposed to make our lives easier and just like make it super confusing for everybody. And especially like, you know, living with people who are over the age of 70, it's a real challenge for them, like understandably. You know? Yeah, cause it's like, why complicate things?

On, off the switch. Yes. Yes. Boom. I don't need to summon some other technology for on, off when the Switch was perfectly fine. I think that's why I was like watching, you know, Andor and seeing kind of like what the, you know, futuristic shit is like in a Star Wars universe.

They still have fucking buttons and shit to turn shit on. Yeah. It wasn't all like, let me use my fucking Apple. Let me go to my second device to control this device. Yeah, shit's still open. You press a button to get your water going or your food cooking or whatever rather than everything having to be on a fucking app. Yeah, very frustrating. All right, Miles, what's something you think's underrated? Underrated how boomers don't care about how like dance music flows like at their part.

Okay, so let me just set this up. My mother-in-law turned 70 over the weekend. And we all got together, like my parents, you know, like her friends who live in the area, my other in-laws, I came down, the cousins, everything just like was there to celebrate. I brought like a boom box kind of situation. I was like, yeah, you can hook your phone up to it.

And she's like, oh, Myles, can you DJ? And by that, she just meant, can you play this? Can you just hit play on this playlist and put it on shuffle? Shuffle. I said, hold on, miss, on shuffle now, you try to have a dance party? I'm looking at your playlist, you got some, we're doing highs and lows and everything in between here. This is this could get wacky

just turning it over to the shuffle gods. I do that sometimes I'm like, hey, we're going to we're going shuffle on the whole on the whole music library and we're going to see what the music gods want me to listen to today. So this is okay. That's one way to do it. I hear someone says I'm having a dance party. My seven year old brother. I'm trying to cut a rug as they say. My, okay. So I look at this playlist, I go, I don't know how this shit's going to flow.

And I say that as someone who is currently a midlife crisis DJ who just did a gig recently with a dance party and you got it, you kind of trying to manipulate the crowd with your song selection. You're asking what's the three act structure? What's the midpoint? I'm like what are we building towards? We building with, we can't build with Joelene, then don't stop believing

and then have the release be low rider by war. I mean you could, I mean that's an interesting point. Actually that's not bad. I mean so you're so good that you actually just accidentally created a really good sequence. I did kind of start moving interesting actually that's not bad. I mean you're yeah, so you're so good that you actually just Accidentally created a really good sequence. I did kind of start moving the cue around a little bit Yeah, yeah, so hold on you about to kill the dance floor with this shit But then I did I added a song she caught on she's like wait. This wasn't on my playlist. Oh shit, bro There were

220 songs on this playlist. She caught a loose 220 songs on this playlist. She caught a loose Eric Burden with War track. She had Eric Burden on there. I did an Eric Burden with War. She was like, the fuck is this shit? So I let, I said, okay, back to the shuffle god. But then I realized they don't really care about danceability. It's a, it's a different, they're engaging with the music completely different. Whereas like younger people, it's like, yo, I'm trying to get out there, I'm trying to fucking not leave the dance floor, I'm trying to catch the fucking spirit over and over and over with drops and shit.

This was like, every song really just functioned as this thing to jog the memories of her and all of her contemporaries. So a song would be like, it would be like Led Zeppelin, they'd be like, yeah, and like slow-ass R&B would play And then immediately I'm like Picturing you at this party Biting your tongue absolutely outright fingernail

Absolutely outraged. Fingernails popping off. Fuck. I see. What the fuck is this? How are you doing this? You can't keep getting away with this. But then I realized, too, like it was so much more trans-portive for them to then suddenly all get around. They all started exchanging memories around like, oh, remember when this song came out? This is one of the first things I got.

Da da da da da da. And it was like this really interesting sort of exercise of like memories around like, oh, remember when this song came out? This is one of the first things I got. And it was like this really interesting sort of exercise of like reminiscing and nostalgia with like dancing in between. And I was like, oh, this is like really, I'm like, I, I, I, I need a little bit more life between me and now for me to like have these moments. I'm like, oh, shit, right, this song. Cause I kind of listen to music so much and feel like that all the time. But it was really nice to just see how much, you just see how important music is to people's lives.

And on one level, there's a version where you dance all night long, but then there's another version where it's like, you use it as this like scrapbook. That gives you a chance like, cause also you 70, you're not fucking, you're not throwing it back for fucking five hours straight. You know what I mean? You need some breaks in there and that's what this provided.

So I was like, man, it really is underrated how like I look at it as somebody who's DJed and also just thinks about like, if it's a dance party, like you become aware when someone kills the dance floor with like a song, but this was so different. So salute to the old. It's nobody's fault. Takes all the pressure off if you just give it up to the shuffle guys. Yeah. And that's and it was kind of Zen too,

because here I am being like, oh, you're going to fuck this up. And they're like, no, no, it's cool. Just let this shit. We don't care. That's not what we're here for. And I was like, oh, did the wee bay from the wire means. Okay. I think I believe in that version of a like God higher power more than any other. Shuffle guy. Like this morning, my son, my nine year old, we're on the way to camp. He's like, Hey, can we play eye of the tiger? So put on eye of the tiger, like two minutes left of the drive, we get like halfway through. Get to the camp, new camp this week. So, you know, it's not a thing where he heard it at camp. They're like playing the end of the song that we were just listening, like it was

the same song. Yeah, it was like a seamless transition. Wow. I was like, hey guys, we're in the pocket right now. This is where we're supposed to be, you know, listening to the end of. Did Kung Fu fighting come on next? Exactly. That feels like a different kid. Everybody was Kung Fu fighting. They're like, yeah. I love it.

It's funny those songs you love as a kid, like those washed ass 70s songs. Like I was loving that yeah, they did a school of rock last week and my nine-year-old was lead singer on creep and Zombie by cranberries, but that's where he found out about eye of the tiger It's just like yeah, just like the beginning of that damn Dan, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. Wait, your son hit fucking zombie, what? I mean, he was, it was, you know. No, I'm not saying like he did a faithful.

He felt very comfortable. He evoked Dolores O'Reardon. His best moment was the part in Creep where he's just kind of like howling like, shee, la, la, la, la. Like he went high. moment was the part in creep where he's just kind of like howling like she like he went high like dance I thought you said I thought you meant TLC creep radiohead creep radio yeah and he ended the performance by being like it's a sad song yeah for now like I want a perfect body you're like yeah but anyways he's

that shit he's on his musical journey. Oh yeah, okay, Pablo, honey, go ahead. That's right. Yeah, I didn't talk to him about Thom Yorke's problematic stance on Gaza. Yeah, you mean his blowing with the wind morale? Morality. That's right. And really, I'm the victim here.

So my underrated, another dumb one, just like unofficial celebrity, like stock markets, just look. So I was taking a trip down memory lane on the Buzzfeed celebrity videos feed, which is a feed you can go look at on YouTube. It's just like a channel that they have and it's where they have like all their, um, you know, uh, celebrity puppy interviews. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just from the past 15 years.

And so you just get to see the snapshot of who was popping and who. You also get to see really outdated shit like Kevin Spacey answers questions that female celebrities get asked. Just a thumb of Kevin Spacey looking kind of silly and off to the left like, hmm, with the words mani pedi on the thumb. Consent.

But yeah, you get it's just I don't know. I think we're we talking about on the show that I think there's either a podcast or like a game that we heard about recently where it involves trying to name the actor who has the highest IMDB ranking like from a movie were you on that? No I think I missed that. Any listeners who know the podcast that I'm talking about let me know but anyways just on the on the BuzzFeed videos BTS is king 50 million Emma Watson 30 million kitten videos and then you go all the way down there and you got some that's like this was this was a publicist idea like Sarah Paulson playing with dogs John Krasinski playing with dogs and answering questions down in like the 200, 300,000 range. But yeah, so this, somebody was talking about this game where you like try and

guess what the highest IMDB ranking is. And I spent way too much time this morning, just trying to figure out, trying to figure out, because you can't see the overall list, or at least I couldn't figure out how to see the overall list without like subscribing to something. So you just have to guess and see what their rankings are. And the closest I got to the top of the list was Sydney Sweeney at four after leaping up two spots. But, um, like we can play it right now.

Like Robert De Niro for some reason, like when I Googled like who is the highest ranked on like, because IMDB, like when you go to a thing, like when I Googled like, who is the highest ranked on like, because IMDb, like when you go to a thing, like it has the star meter and says, like, this is where they're ranked. Don't you remember last week, we were like talking about Harrison Ford, like being like, we guessed he was highly ranked. Was this not you? All right. And you're doing another podcast behind your back. I said behind my Jack.

What the fuck? Sidney Sweeney is the Brad Pitt is 12, which that was or 16. That's just from you searching Brad Pitt and seeing what they can search. Brad Pitt go to his IMDb page and it tells you his overall star star meter ranking. Tom Cruise is at 12. Glenn Powell. I was like, okay, Sydney Sweeney's high. Let's look at Glenn Powell. He's in the dreaded just, it says top 500.

Doesn't give you a number at a certain point. Damn. But I don't know. Just like looking, you know, looking at it's very unscientific He's better but so is the stock market so I'm just like that's fun for me I don't look at a little style of me makes more sense in the stock market, right? This is like based on I'm like yeah of people searching somebody's name. They're gonna drink her bath water Yeah, that's top 10 probably.

Right, exactly. But I couldn't find anybody else in the top 10. I guess, yeah, Tom Cruise is hanging tough at 12 after dropping five from number seven last week. Somebody has an IMDB Pro login at this company. I'm pretty sure. But that takes the fun away. And Anna has it, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. All right. Anyways, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. But that takes the fun away. And Anna has it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. All right. Anyways, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. Just like great shoes, great books take you places through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never forget. I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies.

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Yeah. Mm, what a time to be alive. Yeah. So yeah, as we know, Trump went ahead without congressional approval and ordered the bombing of three Iranian nuclear sites that the US claims have been obliterated. Iran has vowed that Americans

will face everlasting consequences for their role in the attack. Yeah, illegal attack based on, I don't know what, based on a lot of theories, basically. Vibes, like it feels vibes. Bad vibes. His director of national intelligence within the past couple of months was like, this is a direct quote, the intelligence community continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon. And Supreme Leader Khomeini has not authorized the nuclear weapons program that he

suspended in 2003. And when asked about that, Trump literally said, I don't care what she said, I think they were very close to having it. Oh, wow. Yeah. Is that is that what Laura Loomer told you? Right. It's true. It just feels like I don't know. It feels like he's trying to like the skill that he has is trying to be the star of a TV show that is the fucking fate of the world.

And now he's like, ooh, I can paint with this new color. Wars. Yeah, and I don't have to feel all scared about them. Just like with Netanyahu and the Iraq War, let's not forget, he did the same thing in the buildup to the invasion of Iraq. Oh man, Saddam, he could probably enrich uranium in like washing machine size centrifuges

all over the country. You guys better go in there. You ever see those washing machines on the spin cycle? Oh my God, imagine uranium in there. Now think about that. Now think about the uranium in there. Now imagine they're white. Now imagine they're white. Now imagine they're white.

I had this joke where my kids are obsessed with imagine dragons and I said, now imagine they're white. Dragons. After. I was like, ah, this is lost on you guys. This is lost on you little white kids. Now imagine they're white. Oh wow.

No, but again, it's the same pattern. That's what's so wild about this shit. Netanyahu, again, no talk of how many nuclear weapons Israel has. They don't even mention that and how the, you know, the international agencies that are in charge of observing and monitoring nuclear weapons and uranium enrichment, like Israel's like, can't look here. Sorry. Can't come in.

We've we don't we have the secrets here. Now, yeah, we're dragged yet again into something. Well, who knows where this is going? I think that's what's really wild right now is like because it's Trump, you know, there's so many people in his ears from multiple angles. You have the hawks who are like, go fucking now. It's fucking time. Because I think a lot of the calculus from the Israelis

and the people who just want never ending, like wars of empire for the United States, look at what's happened since October the 7th, like Israel and Hezbollah had their, you know, Israel just completely took, like went after Hezbollah's leadership. Then the Syrian regime was completely overthrown. A lot of these other things that Iran usually has as proxies were weakened.

And I think that's all the calculus now. They're like, I think this could just be a good time now to fucking go after it. They're kind of spread thin. And let's just see where this thing goes. There's this quote from those New York Times article that so this is actually about the fact that Trump basically blew the military's cover by being like, get out of Tehran and. Oh, everyone evacuate Tehran now. Yeah. So they knew that an attack was coming specifically on one of the places that was bombed.

According to the New York Times, removed 400 kilograms of uranium enriched to 60% purity. That is just below the 90% that is usually used in nuclear weapons. I'm no expert on uranium enriching, but in what other contexts is, is 60% just below 90%? Oh man. Other than justifying war with the majority. Just a full 50% more from 60, then you get to 90. That's the difference between a D minus and an A minus. Like that's the difference between Steph Curry's free throw shooting and like Shaq having a good free throw.

But again, that's what doesn't matter because they're just they're trying to manufacture consent with just buzzwords that are meant for an ignorant population. Be like, oh, 60 percent. That's, I think, close to 90 percent. I think. I don't know. And because all the experts are screaming their heads off to be like, this is not close to happening. Also, what the f- Anyway, yeah, I'm just, it's exhausting. It's exhausting. It really is. Especially because this is all just using the same flimsy talk over and over. Because if you saw it too, Trump got all the influencers in line also, and had everybody reading from the same hymnal, basically saying the rhetoric from the end of last week was basically, Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.

Everybody said some version of that. And you're like, all right, they put out the the lyric sheet for this hymn that everyone's going to sing this week to manufacture consent. And I had a ton of people like they were going after Charlie Kirk. Like they specifically went to the right wing influencers to be like, guys, you got to kind of tone it down and just kind of help us out on this. And then sure enough, boom. They switch up all their rhetoric.

Yeah. Jack Psobiak, who, you know, possible CIA op, but he blasted supporters of the idea of attacking Iran as like the worst Bush era neocons who would disastrously split the Trump coalition. That was before the bombing. After the bombing, however. He voiced his approval, but then did so noting that Trump still opposes a regime change.

And then Trump was like, I don't oppose this regime change. Right. He said, it's not politically correct to use the term regime change, but if the current Iranian regime is unable to make Iran great again, why wouldn't

there be a regime change? Yeah. And then he's like, well, like, so he's just saying that, you know, but like all these people are just having to, you know, backpedal so quickly. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it's jarring. I mean, I think the sat like weirdly the one person who's stuck to her Jewish space lasers

I mean stuck to her guns on yeah fighting a war in Iran is Marjorie Taylor green. Of course, she's Fully like as of this recording has not budged She's like and look a lot of people like she's getting attacked from people on Fox or like she's a nitwit Which I agree, but like she doesn't know what she's talking about. She's had to be like, I'm not being disloyal to Trump by saying we need to keep our white people first. I mean, America first agenda. That's all I'm saying. I'm America first. I'm not being disloyal to Trump. I'm being anti-Semitic in that I don't trust Israel and I don't trust Israel and connect that to- Because her thing's like, don't believe him ever. Like, yikes.

And then she does go on to be like, I've met a couple. And you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Easy, easy. But again- Not that not supporting Israel is ever the same thing as anti-Semitism. No. I feel like that might be where hers is coming from.

She is. But I feel like that might be where hers is coming from. Just let me know. You got somebody who's opposing Israeli partnerships and also has talked about Jewish space lasers. I feel like that's an important piece of context. Yeah, yeah. You're not siding with Palestinian people, that's for sure. But again, not that I think she's being righteous in any way because her logic around not getting into an illegal war with Iran is also so fucking goofy. This is what she posted, quote,

I don't know anyone in America who has been the victim of a crime or killed by Iran, but I know many people who have been victims of crime committed by criminal illegal aliens or murdered by cartel and Chinese fentanyl and drugs. Yo! There you go. Relax. Goes on, quote, almost anyone in our country can relate to this fact. However, America has not dropped bunker busters on the cartel's sophisticated drug tunnels, launched homohawks on massive cartel poisonous drug operations, or gone to war against the

cartel's international terrorist networks gone to war against the cartels international terrorist networks Okay, okay. So her thing is just that they haven't done this enough to she's like we need to do it We more I think she's like look America first is all about white people having more things and also doing war on brown people at home. Yes That's right. That's what I mean. Which don't worry. Marjorie, Marge, babe. Have you seen it? It's, it's happening.

Y'all are having your cake. This is a two front war. And bombing it too. And the two fronts are everywhere else and right here. Yeah. Those are the two fronts. So yeah, just, this is the idea. She just goes on, she's like, look, our enemies, our enemies, you can distill this down to our enemy is not Iran.

Our enemies are the Chinese and illegals. Yes. That's, I think, what she means to say. You could have used way less words than that, Madge. So what's the, what's gonna happen now? Because I know one of the things Jack is saying is like, um, well, this, what this will be a quick strike or no, maybe, maybe that was Matt Gates. He's like, this is more going to be like the Solomon, Solomoni strike one and

done. Um, is there any reason to believe that? I don't know. I mean, I, and I, you asked, you set that up as if we were on like a real new show know. I mean, you asked, you set that up as if we were on like a real news show and I was like a foreign policy expert. Yeah, Jack, here's the thing about that. In my very narrow time being wasted reading a few articles last night,

no, but I think, I mean, really what, from everything we're seeing and just generally the pace of history is like, kind of like, okay, so The bombing has begun there's definitely conflicting reports on how effective these bombings were Because on one hand like even his own generals are like it'll take a second to really assess what's happened The Iranians or other people have said like the damage really wasn't as significant as Trump claims Which I tend to believe because Trump exaggerates everything.

So does, is this just going to be how other things play out with like a cycle of escalating retaliations back and forth, asymmetric attacks, more cyber attacks, more terrorism? I don't know. Like, you know, is that how it's going to look? Does Trump lose his appetite for war and move on to bombing like the Barack Obama library? I don't know. Like it's that's what's so wild is you have literally no idea because a lot of all this shit with like the tension with Iran really kind of, you know, he really started talking

spicy after that big parade. His birthday parade was an L. Yeah, I really think that has something to do with it. He's like, I looked weak. Fuck that. We're bombing some shit. I don't know. You know what I mean? It's and all of that is possible and none of it is possible at the same time. The Iraq War was a response to George H.W. Bush being called like a sis. Like literally they called him a sissy by the media.

They were like perceptions that he's a sissy. And he was like, Oh yeah. Well watch this. Watch me puke some sushi up in Japan. Um, yeah, that again, so we're not, I will say this, the people who are not salivating for more armed conflict may not be getting what they want right now. Um, but again, I think the other part of this calculus for Trump, because he's not, he's like, he's always like, I want peace, I want peace unless, you know, I think the other part of this calculus for Trump, because he's not, he's like, he's always like,

I want peace, I want peace unless, you know, I'm kind of, if enough goblins are whispering in my ear to bomb something, then I'll do it. But the economy is another thing that he has to really think about, or I don't know if he has to think about it, but any normal leader of a nation where millions of people's lives depend

on an economy functioning would think about like, you know, the Iranian parliament just voted to shut down the Strait of Hormuz, which is, you know, this little strait where 20% of the world's oil like moved like transits through this strait. And they're saying, we're gonna shut it down. Trump is clearly worried about that happening because oil is the Duncan of earth.

Yeah. Because earth runs on oil. And he was clearly thinking of all the permutations around attacking Iran when he posted this nonsense on Truth this morning. He said, quote, everyone keep oil prices down. I'm watching. You're playing right into the hands of the enemy. Don't do it.

Okay. Who does he think he's talking to there? Like oil executives? I don't know. Maybe some guy he thinks is oil. Who's in charge of everything. It's really, really odd. And again, right now,

while the parliament has voted to shut down the straight as of this recording, there doesn't seem to be any sort of like movement in terms of like enforcing the closure of the strait with force and attacking ships that move through this lane or having a blockade. But again, that happening and the lack of movement for America's lifeblood oil that that is definitely gonna reverberate. So I don't know. I mean, like there's, we've got so much going on, Jack. We've got a lot.

Truly an omni-crisis. And, you know, I'm sure this also by, this is a welcome distraction for people who want to ignore the genocide in Gaza too, because, you know, this is completely now taking up so much of the oxygen in terms of like the world's attention. Yeah, a lot of people just talking about it

like it's a sporting event where they're like, okay, here's strategically why they're doing that. And yeah, it's taken away from the moral outrage. It's wild to see outlets like the bulwark that are these neocon sort of never Trump-er people who sort of got in liberals good graces by being like, Trump is bad. But then the bombs start dropping, they're like,

he's, look, but Trump is just going on? He's kind of eating on this one, guys. Yeah, you're like, y'all are so fucking craven. Wow. And the feedback he's getting, you know, the feedback from the general population is, don't do that. Knock this shit off. That's bad, that's scary.

But the feedback he's actually getting is from people like Matt Gaetz who wrote, Trump the peacemaker. That was his response after Trump dropped a bunch of fucking bombs. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Off of dubious intelligence.

Yeah, there was an Iranian leader who said, so this was in response to people being like, he said that everything's been destroyed, that you guys got your shit all fucked up by old Donny T. And he said the site had been evacuated a long time ago because he was like fucking telling everybody he was gonna bomb us. And so we evacuated the most obvious targets

and the damages are not irreversible, he wrote, adding you cannot bomb knowledge. So yeah, what you basically did is just gave them more incentive to get nuclear weapons. Wow, you know, I guess while maybe Trump did lose maybe a slight support, and Marjorie Taylor Greene, he has gained the support of John Fetterman, who's now outwardly going on Fox News and saying,

the Democrats gotta knock off this impeachment stuff. Yeah, yeah. It's just like, Jesus Christ, it's all, it's all going around and around and around. Something about brown people that really gets under their fucking skin. Makes me want to pull a shotgun on a guy going out for a jog. Right.

Isn't that you, John? Whatever. I guess the Democrats forgot about that. Well, he's good at making fun of Dr. Oz. I mean, yeah, I don't think there was any way to see where this was going. Yeah. I mean, I think the one thing is that you have to know, you need people to be talking that where this was going. Yeah, I mean, I think the one thing is that you have to know, you need people to be talking that shit from jump. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Because anybody else, you look back and they're like, they kind of got weird lib slash slight conservative written all over them. But they're running as a Democrat. They're like, yeah, yeah, but they're cooler than this other Republican they're running against. So we'll just call them Democrats. Once they get empowered, they'll get more left wing.

You know, the way it always works? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I have more power. I feel compelled to diminish it and dilute it by empowering the people? No, I have more power, and I'm only spending my time around millionaires and billionaires and the people hired by them

to make me only think about what they want. Slight bit of good news before I go to break. I just do want to say obviously to my dear friend, my really good friend, Zoran Mamdani. Only way to say his name is as one of the too much tuner guys. Zoran Mamdani has leapfrogged government Andrew Kumo in the city's ranked choice Democratic primary for mayor. Yeah, the new poll that came out today in this like sort of hypothetical thing, obviously, like, because they have ranked choice, that by the eighth round, Mamdani finally surpasses

Cuomo of the simulated ranked choice voting. Yeah. Yeah, it's yeah expecting that one to go deep Yeah, yeah, who knows but it's the first time he's he's he's come out there, but you know credit to you I saw he was out there in the streets with the kid marrow Yeah, hit New York bro, Merrill the man of the people good to see him out there But yeah, this is just, just want to update there. So I'm pull up on a bike and dismount that shit while I was still rolling. Something that I've, he was like rolled up on a city bike with one of the other candidates who they're like cross endorsing, you know? The rank choice thing. And he, he got off that thing in the way, like I've

always wished I could get off a bike. Like still rolling and then you swing your leg over. You swing your leg over. Yeah. Yo Yeah, that's how you know like this. That's how you know. Yeah, dude. I love Just these little things you're like, bro. I don't know what the fuck his policies are I don't know who that like well still rolling. They're like that guy isn't even running for mayor Jack. Oh shit Really? That would have been cool if that guy you mayor. He would have been tight. He did a wheelie. What's his star meter rating? Dude, he did an endo into seamless leg swing exit.

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just anybody who appears to be foreign in the whatever Home Depot parking lot that they happen to be raiding. So a 68 year old man, Abelardo Avellaneda Delgado, who had been abducted by ICE just died in their custody. And there's a report that said that like this is being covered in the media as he's the first ICE detainee in at least a decade to die while being transported from a local jail to a federal detention center. Oh, so now we're getting mad specific. That was very specific. And so I was like, why so specific on that one? Um, that's like when in mad boosties when I claim the fourth quarter rapid fire question, he's the fastest question to answer segment and all it's like what we're getting so hosted by guys named miles and jack that's on iHeart and yeah okay um delgado's exact cause of

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They really are bringing all the IDF tactics home. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, do you mind if we observe? No, we're looking. We're gonna look. We're looking into it. Yeah. We're looking into it. We got it. Exactly what I thought, we're innocent.

It turns out. Had a hunch. But yeah, I mean, the Guardian article points out the death occurred as private companies with little to no oversight are increasingly tasked with transporting more immigration detainees across the US in pursuit of the Trump administration's recently announced target of arresting 3,000 people a day. Again, just doesn't matter who anyone anyone anyone can get it. Just note that the goal is just to arrest 3,000 people a day. That's right.

Not to identify and remove their so-called horrifically violent criminal illegal aliens 3,000 of them. Right, because they don't have 3,000 of those to remove a day. So they only have people who are abiding by the law and paying taxes in many cases. Yes, okay, okay. But yeah, as our writer, J.M., points out, he's hardly the first to die under ICE's watch this year. Last month it was reported that at least nine detainees died in custody during Trump's second

administration. Like already nine people died in custody. That's fucking crazy. That's the scam. I mean, I don't know. This I think also shows how captured the media is because that is just as this is that's more outrageous than kidnapping people is and now people are dying because of their ICE detention.

Yeah. And I'm sure we I'm sure ICE will do a thorough investigation. Right. We'll get to the bottom of this. In April, they admitted that a, quote, Haitian national in their custody simply passed away. And the cause of death was under investigation. Real Scooby-Doo mystery. Marie Anhay Blythe, Blase a 44 year old citizen of Haiti, uh, was in the custody of ice and was pronounced deceased by medical professionals at the Broward transitional center in pompano beach,

Florida died at the ice facility. Like this simply passed away with like fucking Obi-Wan Kenobi or some shit. Yeah. By, by her own choice. No people are being snatched off the street indiscriminately like there's no chance that they're gonna have access to their the medication that they need and like when they complain of medical symptoms like in this case she was Screaming for help because she had really bad chest pains She was given quote some pills and told to quote, lie down. But then I said, the cause of death is under investigation.

So just like, how is that not a fucking national outrage? Like that original story, like any of these stories. How is the original story being covered as the first death of its kind? Like I. Yeah, because you're making excuses for this administration. The headline can be, this is what now the 10th person that we actually know of at this point. What about the people who are not even on US soil anymore?

Right. Yeah, exactly. This is so fucking weird. Like it's such a grim actual story. And then like, this is the first time a person of, who was a man who was over the age of 60, born in Mexico, passed away in a transitional ice facility that was in southern Arizona. Like we're getting so specific. It, that should be the most freaky fucking thing about all of this. But again, they of the media is really talking much about what these raids are doing. Everything's sort of framed in like why people are fighting ICE and like what they're so angry about or something like that, rather than really connecting people to the absolute tragedy that's also simultaneously happening right here.

Mahmood Khalil just gave his first interview about his abduction and recalled that they told him while they were like in the process of kidnapping him, again, like straight up kidnaped, did not show a warrant, were plain clothed, refused to show a warrant. Were just like, you're coming with us. Took him to an unmarked car, but they were like, yeah, your student visa has been revoked, which was sorry, don't have one. He's a full resident. Yeah. Have a student visa.

They literally hadn't researched enough to know his legal status. This high profile target as they were arresting him didn't even know like what his legal status was. You think they're going to bother learning the medical history and needs of the people they're just throwing in a van because they look Mexican and happen to be in a Home Depot parking lot? That's truly the fucking, yeah. I mean, but that's how ICE agents are looking at it. That's exactly how they're looking at it. Brown and outside. I mean, this is what's so fucking terrifying, right? Like, I know so many people, friends of mine who are Mexican Salvador,

they're just, they don't, they're, they were born here. They're like third generation Americans, right? Yeah. They don't even want to fucking go outside right now, because they don't want to, they don't want to fucking get profiled, you know, absolutely harassed, taken away and God knows what happens. The like the chilling effect that this has just generally on people I think is really underrated by the media. Like people are completely changing the way they are living their lives right now. Yeah, just because they know some fucking tinted Chevy Silverado trucks gonna pull out with license plates missing and you got some fucking weirdos hopping out. This is on top of the stuff that clearly like there has been,

there are plenty of reports of like people impersonating ICE and getting caught now by the police because a lot of people just kind of see what's going on. They're like, yeah, man, you kind of can just fuck with some people. How could there not be? When it's just that accepted by all the people who have all the power to just like walk up, show no ID and take somebody. Yeah. Like, yeah, bad people

are going to take advantage of that. Like, it's. Oh, yeah. I mean, there's entire, I was, we'll probably talk about this. I was reading about like how there are these scam centers basically that have created fake immigration offices where people have to like FaceTime in and a guy's wearing like a uniform with American flag behind him was like, yeah, we need another $300 today. Yeah.

And are just extorting people. But again, this is basically probably what Trump wants because this is a way for him to have his just brown shirts on the street, just terrorizing people and being like, maybe they are authorized. Maybe they're not but Then a net effect is the same because we're terrorizing people of color Yeah, man, if they just wore the same shirts, at least we'd fucking see them coming, you know They just wear like operator. They just LARP is like fucking Seal team six.

Yeah. Like that's half of the male population in this country. I mean, I know I've, I've heard anecdotally from people, like friends who live in other States, like that, you know, like these raids are also happening constantly around them and the fuckery that's happening. But I'm really curious if to hear from zeit gang, like if, if it's actually taking an energetic toll on what your city feels like because yeah,

I'll tell you, it's completely, completely altered. That like just the feeling in the city, like you have now you can't even drive around people with people kind of like with their head on a swivel. Right. Without being like, you know, what the fuck is it? Who's this guy? Who the fuck is this? Are people about to hop out? It's just a very, I mean, Trump's definitely succeeding in changing for people in LA to feel like what these policies are, even in an abstract way. Like whether it's directly because people you know are threatened by these raids or indirectly because the app, the just the energy of your neighborhood, your city is completely different and muted.

Yeah. Now when we're nervously smoking cigarettes out in front of a store and saying, who's this guy? Who's this guy to each other? We're no longer just doing a casino impression. Yeah, no, no. Now we're actually just fucking wondering if this is ice. Yeah. All right. Those are some of the things that are trending this morning. We're trending over the weekend. We're back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves. Get your vaccines while you still can.

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