The Daily Zeitgeist - 3,000 Years Of Impeachment, Atone For Your Bone With Your Phone 09.27.22

Episode Date: September 27, 2022

In episode 1339, Jack and Miles are joined by host of Life as a Gringo, DJ Dramos, to discuss… Three Thousand Years of Bad Faith Impeachments of Joe Biden, DeSantis’ Martha’s Vineyard Circus Is Not Playing Out the Way He Wanted, Churches Are Using “Shameware” Apps Designed By A Former NSA Employee and more! Three Thousand Years of Bad Faith Impeachments of Joe Biden DeSantis’ Martha’s Vineyard Circus Is Not Playing Out the Way He Wanted Mysteries, legal challenges follow Fla. Gov. Ron DeSantins's migrant flights Churches Are Using “Shameware” Apps Designed By A Former NSA Employee The Ungodly Surveillance of Anti-Porn ‘Shameware’ Apps LISTEN: Tomorrow (BADBADNOTGOOD Remix) by Brittany HowardSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 256 episode 2 of their daily production of iheart radio this well this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and it is tuesday september 27th 2022 yep 9 27 ncmd national chocolate milk day yes ncbhd national corned beef hash day okay ncacd national crush a can day ndof national day of forgiveness and ncd national scarf day or yeah nsd that's what it should have been shout out to corned beef hash though that is my favorite like irish food i just but like aggressive trash

american breakfast like in a can like i'll i've bought this shit in a can and the checkout lady asked if i was okay that is like the food that is so salty that i feel like sometimes you get like crunchy salt like it when you're like chewing on it it's just oh yeah it crystallizes yeah the first like time you sweat after eating corned beef hash in a can like just crystals come out of your pores just gravy yeah wow but anyway shout out to corned beef hash though i love shout out to corned beef hash how does chocolate milk you know an underrated it's it's also one of my favorite things when a like second tier n NBA all-star is sponsored by chocolate milk. Oh, dude,

that was violent. Like the idea that chocolate milk was the reason these dudes are in the league. Yeah. And I mean, they do recommend that as like a post-workout thing. If you need to get, you need to get protein and you can't, can't stand the taste of milk because you're a five-year-old at heart.

Like I am, you know, go with the... Like Clay Thompson? Like Clay Thompson. It's funny because it's like... How I refuel. Everything about it feels like a budget Gatorade commercial, you know?

Right, yeah. It's in black and white and shit. Yeah. And then you got Kevin Love being like, and I fucking fuel love with chocolate milk. Yes. Okay, Kevin. Thank you.

Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Sweet Potatoes O'Brien. Shout out to Dr. Rae Wynn Grant, who's underrated with sweet potatoes. Chris Oily on Twitter was like, well, your a.k.a. needs to be Sweet Potatoes O'Brien. And I was like, how has it not been sweet potatoes o'brien before and i think it's because everything about me just rejects that nickname like that's the nickname of somebody who was like a graceful athlete yeah sweet potatoes o'brien yeah yeah that's that is not me you know my my nicknames were like you know stone hands butterfingers shaky you know sweet potatoes o'brien was like the forgotten white guard of the NBA,

like in the 60s, who was like, oh, he played like a brother. Sweet Potatoes O'Brien. Sweet Potatoes O'Brien. He wasn't all stiff and shit. Yeah. I dribbled around with my head down like an old-timey NBA player. Yeah, and one hand out for a balance. I don't want to fall over anyways i'm thrilled to be

joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray miles gray the lord of lancashire the north hollywood sun is back just first of all shout out to seattle i was there i have not been to seattle before very beautiful place shout out to y'all went to dick's burgers fantastic i like the shit dude shit was like priced reasonably even though the burgers are very normal i was just like damn like this is your local shit and it's like three bucks okay okay wow and the fries are oh my god a little bit of a run oh i guess better than in and out if the fries are oh you know how you know how i like soggy floppy yeah you just like mashed potatoes shaped like mashed potatoes pushed through one of those play-doh machines that like extrudes it into

little pasta shapes yeah that is your idea of a good fry yeah so i was i was very happy with that yeah so and also shout out to kemp's cannabis really had a weed shop out there. Did you spend any time in the airport? I did. Did you hear the like announcements from grunge and like hair metal rockers? No, I didn't. I didn't. Those didn't. Those didn't clock.

I was I had headphones in, but every time I had stuff out, I felt like I was hearing like the normal chatter over the thing. Yeah. It might have been just a brief window where they tried this out. I might have just been hallucinating at the time, but I'm pretty sure I spent like 45 minutes in the Seattle airport and was hearing TSA announcements from like Duff McKagan from like, Hey, this is Duff from Guns and Roses. Like, be sure that your packages or your bags are with you at all times. Hey, it's Chris Novoselic from Nirvana.

Did you pack your bags, your own bags? I'm sure you did. All right. That's very strange. Anyways, Miles, we are thrilled. Not fucking around. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the host of the hit first-rate podcast, Life is a Gringo.

You know him from The Breakfast Club, his very popular YouTube channel. He's a DJ, a music producer, a TV personality. Most importantly, he used to be the producer of a second-rate podcast called The Daily Zeitgeist. Things are clearly moving in the right direction for him. Please welcome back to the show dj drama hey it's it's good to be back man i feel like i'm like it's like a glove i'm just sliding back in just feel so right to be here with you guys yeah it's been a while man

like you never left how you been i'm good i'm good life is life is good i think last time i talked to you guys i was uh dealing with the remnants of a hurricane. So I am back living at my house, you know, a little flash forward here. So I'm feeling good. I can't complain. And it's hurricane season again. I know. Don't know. Remind me. Yeah. Right now, things are okay as things stand, right? It's just more, what is it, Ian or something? Ian is threatening florida yeah right tampa bay and stuff tampa so that's a big deal because yeah yeah yeah you know i love in the background i love the cafe lights or what do we call what's the official name for those

lights that we see everywhere like i hear them called rodeo lights edison lights edison bulbs yeah that's edison bulbs the the technical term here is uh is edison bulbs the man has edison bulbs yeah that's edison bulbs the the technical term here is uh is edison bulbs the man has edison bulbs hanging behind him if you didn't get from his intro that things are going pretty well well actually i i wish i had zoomed out the the camera because i know you guys would appreciate this that little like orange cable i have hanging down is actually a 90s Chicago Bulls basketball phone signed by Dennis Rodman. If there's one place that it would be appreciated, I know it would be here.

Part of me is like, wait, hold on. Is that a Chicago Bulls phone cable? It could have been amazing. You just know it from the cable. I had that. Wait, what is the shape of the phone? Like a Bulls head or like a basketball that says Bulls on it? Yeah, I'm going to make you show and tell. All right.

So there we go. Oh, it's a full-on basketball. It's a full basketball. Like, hello. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Like, legit. Yeah.

And then. With a hand on it. Dennis Rodman. Yeah. Dennis Rodman signed it. Where did you get that? Did you buy that? Okay, so I got the ball from eBay, the phone from eBay.

And then when I was at the breakfast club, I had the pleasure of dennis rodman and getting him to sign it and he was just like what the hell am i supposed to do with this and that's a real quote from dennis rodman i was just like can i just sign it like just let's just make sense of this you know please just sign it for me yeah i know i can totally relate to that as somebody who also worked in a morning like rap show on radio like when you knew somebody was coming in you're like oh shit what am i gonna sign like i remember when pharrell came in i like i i had i had my homie go like he was at the record shop and we go pick up and like pick up the first nerd album on vinyl right he's like because i don't have shit with me and then when push it t came in the first time i went to the supermarket and bought boxes of

baking soda and pyrexes for him to sign because i was like shit i don't have an album and he was like i'm not gonna lie he's like this is the first box of baking soda or a pyrex i've ever signed in my life great thank you bro i was in a panic i heard you were coming in out of nowhere and there was no way like clips is one of my favorite rap duos so that's legendary that's like such a great you know what's even funnier my mom fucking you started using the pyrex because i used to live with my mom at the time when i moved out i had like a bunch of shit like in a corner she started using the fucking pyrex dish and i and the fucking like faded off of it oh no sounds like it's that's on me for not taking care of that the

baking soda is great though that's a that's brilliant that's like that's on me for not taking care of that. The baking soda is great, though. That's brilliant. That's easy. That's easy. You know what I mean? Yeah. Miles is good under pressure, coming up with genius ideas. It is. Nothing short of that.

Spur of the moment. Yeah. I wish I could take time to think of better shit. I'm in a panic. It's not too much. Also, the phone appears to be. and I do my best thinking. Also, the phone appears to be,

so the basketball, the phone is made of, appears to be, the basketball is being held by the T-1000, like right before he gets the flesh tone. It's like this haunting silver hand that's holding the ball

for some reason. The 90s was just a strange time for random collectibles. That's right. Dravos, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the stories we're talking about. We're going to look forward to 3,000 years of not longing, but bad faith impeachments of Joe Biden. If the Republicans win the House, that is what the next two years is going to feel like. So we'll just talk about their plan to impeach Joe Biden and actually investigate the January 6th committee. So they're going to impeach the impeantis' Martha's Vineyard circus and the fact that it's not playing out quite as he had foreseen it. We're going to talk about the extraordinary lengths that some people are going to to stop jacking it 24 hours a day, seven days a week, which includes letting their church see, like basically spy on them.

Installing spyware that informs your church anytime you you look at pornography all of that plenty more first dramas uh hold on but like i know we'll probably get into it but like doesn't god already know that shit yeah isn't he omniscient isn't he all knowing that's a great question that you need to ask your pastor i would be like hold on this is i feel like you're trying to be god right right well we just read he is omnipotent omniscient omni everything okay okay but you want to know what i'm looking at on pornhub okay i i think that's actually a very good argument that gets to the heart of some of

the issues look they create modern religion has is that Christianity created a monster. Yeah. By indoctrinating me from K through 12th grade. Cause now I know y'all, I know y'all logic loops. Right. And I would say that forcefully and raise that in the church and wonder what,

how people would respond. But again, I think everything's about control. So they miles. Anytime I fuck up real bad in my life, I just call miles and he just is like a defense attorney for my soul it's like hold on god hold on hold on a second as it says in this book of the bible exactly uh before we get to any of that shit dramas we like to ask our guest what is something from your search history oh okay, okay. Yeah. So I was searching this this morning.

I'm not sure if you guys are into like meditation. I'm a pretty big connoisseur of that kind of stuff. Yeah. Mindfulness, all that kind of stuff. So I'm always looking for, of course, so I'm looking for like a way to kind of go above and beyond always, right? So I was listening to a podcast this morning, and this dude was like really selling this device that he uses that apparently puts him in like another world and i i looked it up it's

called the soma dome oh and and it's kind of like you ever seen those flotation uh things where people like sit in salt water and like yeah yeah but this is like i guess installed in your house and it's like a little dome and it's got like speakers and and lights and shit and it's supposed to give you like the ultimate like you know just being present in your head meditation wise so he was talking about that that's like a futuristic bobsled right right almost exactly that's such a good way oh my god yeah a futuristic bobsled with a hood over that's literally yeah with a rave built in exactly so i was like all right let me let me look into this whole thing and as i'm like researching i hear him go yeah i mean i dropped 25k on it and i was like all right let me close out the old

safari search it's uh it's back to turning off the lights and uh and looking at headspace you're listening to headspace on my on my spotify uh not only do you close the tab but you have to erase the cookies so that amazon and the algorithm doesn't think you think to start sending shit about $25,000. They've made a broke boy version called Soma Home. It looks like a fucking little collapsing camping chair.

You'd bring a Little League game or an AYSO game with a light flap on top. It looks like the low-budget brother of Soma Dome. I love that. It's like if somebody breaks into your house and they see that they're just gonna walk right back out because like this broke ass motherfucker you got the real deal oh bro no we're good we're good where's the other one they'll think it's a time machine or just freak them out they're like a mad scientist

lives here have you guys ever done sensory deprivation? No, I really want to do that. I did it. Okay. But I, I'd love to hear yours. So I had built it up in my mind. I talked to a lot of people who are really into meditation.

I'm into like getting into meditation ish. I'm into getting into, into like getting into meditation ish i'm into getting into i'm like preparing to be willing to get into getting into your meditation i'm doing the pre the prep to get to be into meditation so i went and did it and i think i think this is a good thing i'm told this is a good thing. I'm told this is a good thing, but they, I closed my eyes, the lights went down and then it seemed like a split second later, the lights came back on and they were like, yep, that was 45 minutes.

And I, I guess it was like just the most relaxing sleep or they were fucking with me. I can't, I can't tell which shifted all the clocks and shit. It's like that office episode where they, Michael fell asleep in the office. Like five, bro. He's like, Office episode where Michael fell asleep and the audience clocks like,

he's like, oh, alright. Better get out of here. Yeah, it was the closest I've come to time travel since drinking and using drugs. Did you feel like your experience would feel like four and a half hours? And that was why it was maybe a little bit like, oh shit, time just went rapidly quickly without any stimulus.

It was just like 45 minutes, but it just went so fast i thought yeah i think i'd build it up like okay that this could go one of two ways it could be like very trippy and like that's supposed to you're like traveling places in your mind right is what one thing i've heard and the other thing i had heard is like you just are in in there and you want to get out like I've heard about it going badly I'd never heard someone just be like yeah close my eyes and it was over yeah right so I I think I built it up in my head a lot too I thought it was gonna be life-changing and and then I I go and I open the thing and it's got like little like stuff at the bottom of like the water thing and that just grossed me out because I thinking, what was the other person that was in here before me? They obviously didn't use water.

And then the part of me that is like, uh, the child of an immigrant who like makes myself feel small. It's like, you know what? I'm not gonna say anything. I'm just gonna deal with it. You know?

And then the first half hour, get in my ear. Right. Right. But the first half hour is just me thinking about what it could be and being grossed out by the fact I'm laying in this water. And then I fell asleep at some point, woke up and it was kind of a similar thing i was just kind of like all right i guess it was like good sleep i don't know it wasn't what i

hoped it would be yeah it was super super fast but yeah yeah zeitgang let us know what what your experience is with sensory deprivation i've definitely heard from people who like had really trippy experiences my one friend hunter is like got in there and really got after it hunter right because you're saying his dad was putting a lot of pressure yeah his dad like put a lot of pressure on him so he said he went in there and had a little party in there i didn't really exactly know what that meant but he left his laptop like at the place right and he was like he went back he might have yeah what uh what's something you think is overrated dramas i i've been realizing this recently i think like being young like being in your 20s I think he might have. Yeah. What's something you think is overrated, Dromas?

I've been realizing this recently. I think like being young, like being in your 20s, I think that that period of your life is overrated. Okay. And I say that now as somebody who is almost in his mid-30s, and I'm just like, man, I really get to do all the shit that I want to do. I get to take naps when I want to. I get to go eat a good meal when I want to.

I'm spending stupid money on like, you know, craft beers just because I want to see this like caramel cotton candy flavor thrown in a beer. You know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like I'm really living right now, you know, and I'm not having to run around to like, you know, all hours of the night, you know, chasing after God knows what to feel like I'm living. So that's the realization I've come to. Maybe it's me trying to kind of, you know, chasing after God knows what to feel like I'm living. So that's a realization I've come to. Maybe it's me trying to kind of, you know, heal myself or feel like I'm getting older. But I just know that when I was 21, I thought somebody who's 30 was like ancient and that their life was over. And I feel like the older I've gotten, the more I realized that might have been a lie that we were all told. Yeah. I feel like the difference for me, like I would say like my twenties was spent avoiding life and my 30s

have been embracing it like i was the chaos of my youth was just like fuck that like let me get fucked up let me put my attention into all this other like vapid shit that wasn't really meaningful to me and just kind of like living in a fucking you know like with my head in the clouds right not that it was bad but like i needed all that time to dial in like what was important to me to fuck up enough times to realize like what i never want to do to myself or things i need to embrace about myself and yeah like now as i'm older i'm like i feel like i have the the ability to appreciate life more yeah taking it for granted because when you're a kid you're like i'll do that shit later man i'm 24 like fuck i'm gonna be popping for the rest of my life but even traveling like if you think about when you used to travel in your 20s, it was like, I'm going to go to this city I've never been to.

And rather than really explore it, I'm just going to get fucked up at every single bar or club in the area. I remember it. Yeah. And I have no idea really about the city aside from what the nightlife looked like. Yeah. I would be like, I'll go to a city based on who had who was a promoter at a bar, like at a club. I'm like man i ain't going to fucking italy i'm going to east st louis because the homie is working at the pink

slip yeah i i feel like that's true generally across like as a culture we devalue anything outside of the 18 to 34 demographic because that's just who we can make money off of like the civilization has learned to make money off of and then once once you have kid like 35 is the average age that you have kids so like then they just give up on you but from from the actual individual person's perspective the longer you get to try being a an adult, the better you get at it, you know, the more you learn, at least if you're learning. Like I was, you know, I needed to stop doing certain things to, you know, start actually learning how to live as a human. clear differentiation like where i was like oh actually like your life can get progressively easier as you learn how to just like deal with shit instead of yeah like miles like you said like put finding ways to get around the shit yeah just like you know dead it out just i'm not

dealing with that i'm not gonna confront that truth i will i will do so much ecstasy at this music festival it It sounds uncomfortable. And then write all kinds of incoherent things in my notes app. Oh, yeah, I figured it out, man. EDM, economic distraction music. I'm like, what the fuck? Where did that come from? What's something you think is underrated?

what, uh, what's something you think is underrated? All right. So I think, uh, watching what's unfolding with like the, the head coach of the Boston Celtics, I think,

uh, I think not cheating is very underrated at this point in, in life because you're literally just watching like this man threw away basically everything he's ever worked for just for, you know, uh, a few moments of cheating on his woman or whatever.

I think not cheating is definitely underrated. Yeah, man. Is there another shoe that's supposed to drop with all this? Everybody's hinting at like, well, I know the real story, so that's why everybody's on the inside

of saying that. I'm like, well, what well what he's like wait till you find out the truth i'm like what is going on because like sarver's like vile misogynistic racist ass also got the same suspension and i'm like so is a that's i'm like to the celtics are they so catholic that infidelity is there too or is there something deeper because like other things I've read too People were coming at Woj Because Woj was CAA Emei Udoka is on CAA So he's giving a very positive spin

Everybody else in the league thinks he's done And I'm like, for what? Right, right, yeah It seems like we don't have the whole story But I do think one thing we can take from it Is that Jamal bowman is there probably probably take that one back oh right it's not worth it it's just not not worth it

it's just ridiculous did you see that dude's so funny on twitter like jamal bowman he like tweeted uh the congressman from new york he's like i don't know how somebody tweet on a being like nia wong she is so exquisite like you would and people are like wow you are down bad homie they're like i think somebody i think sam sanders or someone retweeted they're like my brother in christ sir you are a member of congress and then he tweeted a picture like two days later like with his partner like with some woman he's dating i think and he's like just so y'all know i'm good i've been good and everyone's like oh somebody told you to post that shit after the new year there's so many other side things that have come out of the udoka thing but yeah yeah

it's a mess it's a mess but all right let's take a quick break yeah we'll be right back. for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine.

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decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And yeah, this isn't like that. This is more of a placeholder to be like, but we will be coming back to this one if the Republicans win the House, which I still feel like they're going to win the House. Projections look that way.

Yeah, the projections are saying like it's swinging democrat but it's still like 212 to 223 or something it was like 226 a month ago so like at this pace like if they're losing maybe three seats a month or like in the projections they would still probably stand to win the house yeah and if they win the house man if you thought politics was frustratingly cynical before, like, wait until the Republican House starts launching impeachment inquiries into Joe Biden, starts launching investigations into the January 6th committee, like, just weaponizing every weapon that has been used to, you know, in many cases, try to hold Donald Trump accountable for, you to be trying to impeach Biden on like the Hunter laptop. Who knows what else? Maybe Afghanistan has been mentioned in his handling of that.

So we might have another Benghazi. I mean, I certainly woke Afghanistan gas prices. We remember that segment. Right. Yeah. Max, where they helped us realize. Yeah. And like that's the other thing is that so they're impeaching him about afghanistan and i'm like yeah i mean he fucked that like he like a lot of the stuff he did there was terrible but like that is i have to think that's part of the strategy is like okay you're gonna defend this guy and and like that's such a distraction such a drain on just the genuine political energy that people have to like see see some things change yeah i don't like if part of me thinks like this is just them trying to figure out what to say like it's all about chumming the

waters for the like for their for their base right and like we've seen a few different attempts like just constantly backfire right so then maybe they're like okay what if we get back into revenge mode maybe revenge mode will get them out out the seats again yeah but it doesn't i don't know if revenge mode will like right now there was a new poll that said trump's his support like went down like 20 points recently among republicans so i don't know like there's there's clearly there's clear whatever the polling says or doesn't say there's clearly like an enthusiasm gap that they're trying to address. And they and they're like they're normal tools of being just inhumane to people who are trying to look for a better life or going after trans people or whatever isn't moving the needle enough.

So I think that's why it feels like remember, like I think they're like just like Democrats are like, hey, y'all, if we get the Senate, like we will then give a fuck about you know abortion access this time we swear this time yeah because everybody's got to paint a picture of what happens oh when we win honey look this is what's gonna come and i think for them they've tried all these other things like we are gonna fucking you know just completely mistreat human beings or they're like okay how about we go after biden's? That's what it feels like. But either way, I definitely believe them when they say that. Right. When do we reach peak crazy, though, right? Because this has to tip at some point. And every time you think, all right,

there's no way his base is going to go along with this, like these asinine stories they're making up or trying to defend this. There's always another excuse. There's always another crazy person trying to do something. I just wonder, like, when does the crazy get too crazy for even the majority crazies that follow the MAGA

party almost? I don't know. I feel like right now, it's more like that the optics are so blunt and so plainly fucked up looking that they're like, oh, okay. Somebody went on George Stephanopoulos' show. I forget which.

I think it was Barrasso, Senator Barrasso. And he, like, he was trying to, like, Stephanopoulos was like, fam, you know you can't just declassify shit with your mind. You know that. Like, you know better, fool. And he's like, well, I don't, like, he was like, mm-mm-mm. And, like, Stephanopoulos started to laugh basically laughing at this dude and he's like yeah maybe you're right like there's it's clear that there's like so even like the hannity

thing when he was that terrible interview with hannity even my hand he was like well like isn't there video of the fbi planning if you like are saying they're planning shit and he's like i don't know like no i think it happens in the house anyways yeah i live in a room anyways moving on i feel like the instincts to be like that they're gonna figure like eventually this is going to hit a bottom and they will bounce back that to this point has not served me well i feel like I was asking that question three years ago, you know, and they now we have Trump giving a speech with like dramatic music behind him as they give him the one the QAnon where we go when we go all salute. Like that feels like it would have seemed beyond beyond like what anybody would go along with a while back right i guess q anon seemed like it was beyond what people would go along with a while back but you know what it keeps going they're they're like going it's like they're going through records at a record

store they're like okay what about xenophobia they're like okay that was not hitting uh like they're djing this shit okay uh switch it up oh i got this new white label from QAnon. I hope y'all ready for this. They haven't been playing in one club out here. And recently, at the North Carolina rally, people that were officials with the Trump rally, they were stopping people from doing the QAnon salute.

Right. So clearly, from even the Trump side, they're like, bro, we can't No, no, no. That's a bridge too far, even for what they call, quote, unquote, normal Republicans. What the fuck is this? The flip-flopping, they're just in this very, very wild phase. That's why I'm curious. I do want to play this clip of Kevin McCarthy.

Because just like we're talking about this painting a vision of what it looks like when the Republicans take the House. This is like one of the main, this soundbite of him, of Kevin McCarthy on Fox News, just sums up just how bizarre they think, like what motivates people to vote for them. So just listen to this about why you're going to be loving a fucking Republican controlled House. You're going to be loving a fucking Republican controlled house. Hold the law. We will secure our borders. So your kids won't have to fear wondering that they're buying fentanyl and are going to OD. Huh? Hold on. I'm sorry, Kevin.

I think I misheard you. What was that again? We will secure our borders. Okay. So you secure the. Okay. So no more brown people. Okay. I'm with that.

I'm with that. So your kids won't have to fear wondering that they're buying fentanyl and are going to OD. Oh, I don't know how many of the homies are buying fentanyl. Unless you like have terrible pain and like, you know, like you don't have a health insurance. Maybe you're using it like that. Or again, they... Wondering if they're... So he...

That is a blind swipe well maybe so now you're with drug use look we're gonna get yeah we're gonna we're gonna allow that your kids are doing drugs but we they we're gonna they're gonna be clean drugs they're gonna be the best the purest pretty progressive actually so you're criminalizing progressive i didn't know that was gonna work with the with the Republican. I'm sorry. I don't think through things. I'm just word salad in talking points.

I said border fentanyl. Right. So you could you could save your kids can safely feed their coke habit and not have to worry about coming from over the border. And maybe that's what he does or doesn't mean. is coming from over the border and i maybe that's what he does or doesn't mean but it's just wild like because like you're saying what if they win in the house they're going to they're not going to advance a single fucking bill that would help anybody if anything they're going to try and dismantle any progress that's been made because that's the whole thing the lack of forward progress is exactly what republicans need because the less progress there is the more people that

are on the edge and the more people that are on the edge, the more susceptible they are to their autocratic bullshit. And they need that. They can't have people that are supported or people who are like getting in touch with their like worker power and shit like that. That's completely antithetical to like this, the sort of environment they need to sort of, you know, swoop in and get all these votes that they think they can get and it's just wild watching their whole platform is just basically shift like it's it's watching them kind of deal with this shift in like the racial status quo or like just like white male dominance because that's everything that's like it's a reaction to all of this and it's like i'm

trying to figure out what phase of like the Kubler Ross grief cycle they're in. Like we're definitely past denial. That may have been like five years ago or something. And then anger. Yeah. Like we're, we're fully in anger mode.

We are fully in anger mode. Like of all this shit, like, you know, think of any time you felt wronged, like you first, you're like, nah,

it's not that bad. And then you start going, man, you know what? If only this motherfucker did this this or if only this shit happened if only these people weren't in the way that's what all their legislation looks like it's just going outward and being like fuck all these just putting everybody like just they're on attack mode and i mean if there's if americans are smart enough and their numbers decrease you know in elected office i maybe will see them start bargaining in a weird way. Or maybe they're bargaining now, you know, because right now they're like, oh,

shit, xenophobia is not working. Oh, shit, QAnon. What the fuck? Who do I got to embrace now? But yeah, it's just wild to watch it, you know, because at the end of the day, all they want is to watch people suffer. Yeah, it's scary to think there's no like logical end in sight, because I think you've dismantled the idea of like thinking rationally, right? So like you've basically programmed them to say anything that is brought out there is a conspiracy theory, right?

So, you know, Bill Gates is behind everything that's happening and this is behind this, right? And so where do you end at that point? Because to me, even one thing I would, I might have thought for a while, okay, well, if Donald Trump gets like, the charges come up and and he gets you know you know held to justice for any of the things that he's done there's solid proof and maybe that'll kind of begin to like settle things but that might actually make things even worse because these people might then be even more

angry and feel like they you know have to quote unquote save this this country and things get even crazier you know so right yeah i don't know i i'm just trying to wrap my head around like what does the the end of this really scary story we're living in you know look like i mean there is a logic where with you know they they're doubling down on a non-functioning society the non-functioning you know civilization that we have right now and the primary like symptoms of of that is that is profound spiritual emptiness and deep, deep loneliness. And drugs is one of the most popular ways of dealing with that. So maybe they're going to just be like, we're the drugs party, man. We're going to make sure your drugs are clean, like Soma all the way.

Yeah, just like Brave New World it. If Republicans did that, that would actually... They're like, yo, man, can you get some drugs for this weekend? They're like, yeah, I got the homie Tucker, bro, out in Connecticut, bro.

His shit fire. Oh, for sure. And safe and safe. They don't fuck around, those conservative drug dealers. Yeah, that's the... Your kids doing drugs with fentanyl and it is like the they are so desperate for a you know the immigration situation to like affect them

negatively in some way that they're just reaching they're like your kids man i mean they when they go to cut up a line you know yeah whoa whoa whoa what speaking to the base of you know other senators and the free base yeah and other house members yeah but like again like this is just sort of fits in too with like desantis's martha's vineyard you know human circus right in his mind his mind he's like okay i get it the playbook is cruelty i get that's what every republican knows the playbook is fucking cruelty right now and so again it was no surprise when he's taking living human beings as like pawns and like a irl shit post like when he rounded up migrants under like this like the false pretenses and flying them to martha's vineyard and his hope

like you know you could you could tell what his idea was because basically tucker carlson like like this, like the false pretenses and flying them to Martha's Vineyard and his hope. Like, you know, you could you could tell what his idea was, because basically Tucker Carlson like just completely messaged this like a month or two ago to him being like, and what if the migrants went to Martha's Vineyard? I'm sure the liberal elites there would would surely at that point not would have to be would have to deal with the reality because they're so far away from the southern border, et cetera. So they show up there and he was probably thinking that these people would be like ah gross get them out i'm sure maybe some people were but on the other hand there are other people like holy shit

what happened this will just what and they just dumped you here do you know anybody here no okay you have a place to stay well shit here's food well you don't got shit and and now he's looking at multiple investigations of like lawsuits and this whole stunt is really beginning to look like now like a 1.6 million dollar tax funded event and this is now it's not only pissed off like uh like hispanic voters in florida and just around the country he's also upset like fellow trash governor homie greg abbott because desantis as we know they are not where's their border like they don't have a southern border i mean aside from yes people who might be coming

over the ocean or whatever but it's not in the same way like in terms of the discourse that conservatives talk about the border and abbott was like what the fuck bro like you just coming to my state and grabbing people up and i don't think it was that it was like it was inhumane is what put greg abbott off it's like bro you can't come into my fucking state and do this kind of shit and not tell me about it like now now now i'm dragged into it now like we didn't really get our story straight so now that like i feel like most of america has been aligned on how just terrible this like stupid fucking stunt was desantis is now trying to paint like hit like this as part of his outstanding record on helping people he said the office said quote

florida gave them an opportunity to seek greener pastures in a sanctuary jurisdiction that offered greater resources for them they have been provided accommodations sustenance clothing and more options to succeed that wasn't from the state that was from the people there who responded to seeing other humans get dumped off like garbage that wasn't because of the we say like oh these great sanctuary jurisdictions so it's just this it's wild to then again see this same playbook like white supremacists were using in the 60s with like what they call reverse freedom rides where they're like, how about we get you out the South, black people? And we'll tell them, well, here's a one way bus ticket to a northern city.

We'll lie to you and tell you there's all this, that and the other. And it's not there. But guess what? You got no way back now. And it's weird. Like dramas, when you say like, what's too much? Because Jared Kushner, like, obviously, he's a good barometer of like, what's like, what's going to be the most self-serving take to have right now. And he wasn't doubling down.

He actually used the phrase, we have to remember these are human beings. Uh-oh. So it's clear enough to the self, you know, like the ghouls who are, like, always acting in self-preservation. It's like, don't fucking go that far, y'all. That's how you know you fucked up when Jared Kushner becomes a voice of reason. Yeah, 100%. 100%. But I mean, yeah, like and now like Charlie Crist, his opponent that's running against him in the election.

You know, like this one poll has Crist now in the lead. Like it's like inverted. And other people, I think, more realistically, I think it's probably just tightening. But it was 100%. Many people are like, that just looked like a stunt, really. And that maybe only energized

like 5% of your voters, really, in a way that they're like, yep, that's it. Right. You hope that this was like a terrible thing that leads to somebody like him getting ousted you know what i mean from from his his seat you know that's kind of what the only thing you can kind of hope out of this thing but i'm still pessimistic regardless of any of those polls or anything like that because it just seems like man nothing really

like there's so many there's far more hardcore like lovers of this whole MAGA ideal that like nothing is too far for them. So I don't ever want to get like optimistic. Like, okay, is this going to be the thing that wakes people up? You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I don't think it ever will. I think the only thing is to see that like more people are just becoming savvier. And I guess what's sad is like the bar for how savvy you are

is like can you see someone being mistreated and be like that's not good right that's like objectively that's bad pr yeah right some people i think some people are at it's bad pr other people may have graduated to the next level of sympathy and empathy and be like that is not good to do to another human person because i wouldn't want that to happen to me. But yeah, I think all of this shows, though, like that for all of the influence that they have over the movement, like it's just it should become clear to just most people that it's like they're never offering somebody like a better life. Right. Like as their campaign promise. Like they're just like, we will make motherfuckers cry and live in fear yeah are y'all good are y'all also upset that like you see too many people who

don't look like you know this town used to look around yep okay then we can do something about that and we can just wallow in our inability to like grieve the fact that maybe the country is changing and it's time to embrace something different i think that the country is better when it's not all elderly white men running the whole fucking thing and that's what hurts them most of all i think right you know yeah and that's why they're so i think you were right on that they're just stuck in the anger stage of coping and that's that's the only stage of coping that really works with the, you know, overall Republican comportment, you know, is of toxic masculinity is just being mad and trying to hurt people. Absolutely. And it takes so many like that. I feel like so many people just get stuck in like any situation where you're actually like if you're grieving anything like anger is the one i think

that feels the most like feels right to a lot of people and then obviously like depression and many other things too but it feels like a lot of people get stuck in the angry part and you meet people too like who have gone through tragedies and like that's usually the thing that when they have breakthroughs as human beings is that like i got i let go of the anger right well the anger is the easiest thing right you can you can be upset with a tragedy happening in life and you can go out and be cursing people out on the street or in your car or whatever right like that's the easiest emotion to sort of live in and to get some sort of like instant gratification you know if you like yeah you know yeah exactly yeah and people have turned their whole car into

i am not over whatever i'm grieving right with all my bumper stickers it's like yeah fuck you nancy yeah we need to make the tdz bumper sticker i am not over whatever i'm grieving right exactly but do it in the magathon Like that's truly all these people like you. They never they're incapable of having an actual discussion on the merits or about policy because they're not even existing in a world where there are policy don't have this or i feel like life can be better which many people are experiencing but they're firmly in the column of and i know exactly who to blame and it's the wrong people rather than okay how many of us can accept that the world needs to change and then find a way to energize yourself to say well there's a direction i can move in rather than just turn the heat up on my ass and just fucking be a pot that boils over and eventually causes a kitchen fire yeah i am curious how this read how the martha's vingard stunt read in right-wing media like i just looked on the front

page of fox news to to your point dramas that like it it feels like yeah this is pretty clear cut to right this should be just an argument in and of itself to everybody but front page of fox news is not mentioning this story at all instead the only de santa story they have florida democrat county commissioner proudly endorses de santis he's done an incredible job so yeah which feels like kind of a week yeah i'm sure it's hugely within their interest like Like I think Fox news generally, when you hear people talk about what the Murdoch's in charge want, they want DeSantis to be the president and Trump to be kind of out of the,

so the fact that the best they can do right now, as we're this close to the midterms is have a county commissioner endorsing Ron DeSantis is pretty, I don't know, man, I think they want, I think they want it better for this martha's vineyard story they got one uh one went up uh this morning florida-based hispanic conservatives approve of desantis's martha's vineyard strategy despite media narrative that's one of the fucking main things and they based this on a poll that they did on fox news digital of their own viewers right right right come on like man that it's just the media fucking cycle of like algorithmic giving you

exactly what you want you know uh just like social media and i think that's the answer as to why people aren't getting awakened just because they keep getting inundated with things that just continue to double down on the bullshit that they oh wait here's another one professor charles xavier proves that things can be done merely through thought damn which is very interesting wow we do an x-men lore now yeah professor x is now giving uh you know credence to the the idea that fucking trump can declassify declassify documents yeah for sure, for sure. Love that. OK, Fox. All right. Let's take a quick break.

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there is a multi-million dollar industry of quote accountability apps to help police online activity and it's not just for parents it's also for people whose lives have been ruled by internet porn. Clinical porn addiction is both in clinical settings, it's a contested issue, but still considered a real problem. And the way that people are using this is apps like Covenant Eyes, which allows you to set up a chaperone or quote accountability partner, presumably a friend or loved one who basically gets sent a message and a blurred out photo every time you look at porn on your device. All for a monthly fee. Oh, fuck off. Okay. I don't understand. What is the blurry photo?

Of whatever you were looking at. How is that relevant? I don't know. That does feel like a tease. Like they're trying to create more porn addicts. Or it's like, want to upgrade to pro Covenant guys? And then you get the full picture. Not only are you getting shamed for watching porn, you're going to get shamed

for what kind of porn you're watching. You know what I mean? Right. Honestly, man, some of these people are fucking foolish, dude. You're snitching on... They should make this they should call it compromise eyes because you're going to give somebody all this shit to be like you know you know i know what you've been looking at right right you better tell your wife to not run for church treasury exhibit A through double C of, or through double Z of your divorce here. Right.

The Covenant Eyes website even makes their simple process into a little visual story. So first we have a guy who looks like he just got done, you know, taking a jog. He's in like weird athleisure wear and just looks like sweaty. And then he's sitting in a dimly lit hotel room, just like crouched over a laptop. And then the next picture is them with a friend in a coffee shop. So they're like having a public conversation about their internet porn history in a crowded coffee shop with another adult. And then step three is the man and his wife just laughing their asses off at a baby. So like once you've stopped cranking it 24-7, you're free to finally stop wasting all that sperm and impregnate a partner thus ensuring

the survival of the human race and they are this baby just said something fucking hilarious it is a one-year-old baby but their response is uh is like deaf comedy jam audience level yeah the like slideshow is wild like the first slide porn creates shame shame fuels porn usage shame is the feeling that we are flawed and unworthy of love using porn creates shame which isolates us and we return to porn to cope we call this the shame cycle and then the one with the black dude at the coffee shop it to me it looks funnier and the dude's energy almost looks like bro you know there's a lot better porn out there than the shit like it didn't feel like they're having like an earnest conversation about like hey man yeah you weak bro can we get you back can we get you

strong again he was almost like how the fuck even search for shit like that is like the guy's face to him it's more of an intervention yeah he doesn't look like he's giving him like he's kind of like man you are wow bro you know you don't have to pay for it these days right it's free on most sites out there high quality hd he's like yeah even on porn hub they have they usually have their own channel where you can get that the previews and it says the power of covenant eyes our powerful covenant eyes app monitors your devices and sends a feed of your activity to your ally through the victory app knowing someone else is going to see your screen activity helps you have important conversations overcome temptation and find lasting freedom who now look i've not i know we've definitely have listeners like i've had all kinds of wild stories from y'all

who've talked about how like this the the shaming of like your sexuality and shit how big that is right like varying degrees i I'm very curious, right? How this would be sold to the congregation. Like how that conversation plays out. Like, it's just like, Hey,

Oh man, I saw like, he's going to like, how do you pull up to the homie like that? Yeah. Hey bro. I, I think there are definitely people who like have like out of control,

you know, problems that they need help with, for sure. It just feels that they are trying to insert themselves into a process. Support groups are great for things like this. It's great to have another person who got through the same issue that you're dealing with who you can sit down and talk to. the same issue that you're dealing with who you can sit down and talk to sure you don't need like a spyware entered into your phone that is not like the most secure spyware in the world presumably that is like creating receipts of every time you you backslide yeah i bet can't be good for anybody who's trying to have their eyes forward yeah progress in their life, and then be like, yo, because you know there's a whole data file with every single video you looked at.

I love how they say that porn causes shame. So their answer is, allow us to shame you for watching porn. We're going to shame you out of your shame so you no longer feel the shame of watching porn. And that's how you break the shame cycle. Shame versus shame, okay? Shame versus shame equals no shame. We all know that, okay? So some of these apps advertise their services to churches.

One is called Accountable to You and advertises group rates for churches or small groups. And Covenant Eyes has a button on the main page specifically for pastors and church leaders, groups and coveted eyes has a button on the main page specifically for pastors and church leaders which i mean if if people i'm sure there are people going to their pastors like maybe this is a problem that like pastors are hearing about more often and like but i i just feel like spyware is not it's not the answer no right honesty finding a way to be honest about it no but that's the whole shit right because you can't be honest, right? Like if you're struggling with something, especially sexually, and you're in a conservative church environment. Right.

It's got to be the police state. It's got to be the carceral system. Like I'm sure the conservative church, if you're struggling with like your own sexuality, you can be like, hey, like, you know, if you said, oh, you know, I'm gay. They'd be like, no, you're not. Oh, yeah. That's exactly what happened, actually. Yeah. And the evangelical churches are using the app to make sure people in their congregation aren't looking up anything that could be considered gay. One former member of a Southern Baptist church called it shameware, literally, and said that, yeah, they basically asked them to put this on their phone.

yeah they they basically put asked them to put this on their phone like it does it does feel like i again there are definitely people who need help would go to a pastor might get really good help from a really like good pastor with a issue like this but i could also see a situation where it's like all right so how many of you out there like in this men's group like have ever like looked at internet pornography all right everyone who raised their hand like see me after the meeting you have to put this on your phone and then they like use that the same way that scientology uses you know scientology does that thing where when you're entering you're supposed to give this like super honest like deep reading of yourself to another Scientologist, like an expert in Scientology. And then they use what they learn in that to blackmail you. Right, right, right. Well,

I mean, to your point, I think if it, you know, obviously certain people do struggle with it. It's a real thing, right? Maybe it's your vice and you're like, you know, prioritizing it over other things in your life that you shouldn't be. But to your point, if that really was the issue, then it would sort of end at, okay, you visited a porn site, we got a notification. But the fact that they want to put a picture up of it

so that like you're ousted as to what type of porn you're looking at specifically, I think like erases any claims that they're trying to help people. It just doubles down the fact that this is about shaming you and also surveilling, you know, if you are a member of the lgbtq plus community yeah yeah in a test by wired the anti-porn software flagged content with keywords like

gay or lesbian in the url including u.s centers for disease control website for lgbtq youth resources so so they're just spying on that like spying on anybody who has questions about right it sounds like a product that wasn't meant for this that people were like you know we can do with this technology in a really weird like inefficient way is shame people yeah no the ns this was at least one of these apps was created by a former NSA mathematician. Okay. Shout out Wanda Sykes. Yeah. Did you know Wanda Sykes worked for the NSA?

I had no idea. Yes. When? I'm sorry. I have to take a left turn here. Because we were talking about Ring Nation because Amazon owns Ring cameras now. They own a Ring camera company. So they're doing a show on Prime called Ring Nation, which is all Ring camera stuff. And it's just with the cops and like it's like it's probably gonna be a mix of like you know they say

yeah but it's probably gonna be like you know the lol 12 show or whatever the fuck it is but a lot of people are like also i don't know if you people know this like wanda sykes worked for the msa she's the host and i was she was she was talking about it on a Colbert interview. She was like, I was just doing stuff. She's like, I had a security clearance. She's like, they might be watching me. I don't know. Let's move past that.

I'm like, Wanda? It's a weird country to be living in. Right. Oh, 100%. 100%. The app has some big privacy issues, too, beyond the simple fact that it snapshots your porn and sends it to a pastor. According to Wired, both Covenant Eyes and Accountable2You basically exploited Android's accessibility permissions, allowing them to record every website visited in the device's browser. Wow.

Yo. So they're just like straight. I mean, it's what malware does. maw work they're doubling down too right like i but you feel like the christian people that i i fuck with truly like look at the teachings of christ and they distill it to be good to human beings do good whenever possible. And honestly, if you see someone in a situation you would not want to be, then try and find a way to pull that person out of it. Like really take that message. And you know, like the church can't do that right now. Like it's, you're in a minority if you're a church that's like super welcoming or whatever. Well, not that you're in a minority of the church that does that, but the ones that are the loudest now are the ones that are excluding people yeah right like to double down on this shit was like well shit man if we can't get you know more members then we're gonna keep our members by shaming the fuck out of them or whatever and it's wild to see like that the solution to any of this isn't to fucking box it up and treat this shit like some weird cia black

site but to have openness to say hey Hey, what are you struggling with? That's okay. Like, we're not so regressive where we're like, Oh, you're struggling with your sexual identity or like your, your gender presentation or some shit like that. You're like,

that's cool. Okay. Let's work with that. I was like, Christ will probably fuck with you too. He fucked with everybody. And he would say, that's fucked up.

You feel bad. I don't want that for you. Why? Oh, wow. You feel like you're being shamed. Oh, that's not,

it's all love, baby. It's all God, baby. But not now not it's all love baby it's all god baby but not now it's always like it's the i guess shame is just such a just a fucking such a potent tool that i'm sure it's just hard to quit it if you're you know like your whole way of teaching a religion is based on power through you know shame and control yeah experts emphasize like this is like shaming people for like demonizing porn and the people who watch porn just results in shame and does not lead to long term positive effects. There's an expert who studies sexual health in this Wired article who said, I've never seen anyone who's been on one of these apps feel better about themselves in the long term. Yeah. These people just end up feeling like there's something wrong with them when the reality is

that there likely isn't. But, yeah. Yeah, it's like saying that the solution is more cops. Right. It is. It's just copifying your, like, every aspect of your life.

Oh, you need, yeah, you need porn cops on your phone. No, I don't. And again, man, if you're one of these churches, you'd be like, but isn't the Lord omniscient? Right. Yeah.

Please, why are we- Pastor, I actually Googled porn cops trying to find one of these apps, but I found something completely different that I couldn't stop looking at. So you might want to see this. That's your excuse. I saw the notification went off i was just looking up

porn cops to see what the laws were yeah to make sure we can apply it i thought my neighbor might have been watching something wanted to see who had to call exactly exactly when i searched christ porn i was looking for christ's take on what right wasn't some weird convoluted you know repressed shit i might have from a lifetime of living in a fucking shame box or some shit oh it's hard man it's yeah like when again every every fucking problem we look at in our world right now is just that we need to embrace the idea of treating people humanely there's no real like policy shit to it right it's either you're helping people or you're taking shit from them and preventing them from living to their fullest.

And it's that simple. Like just running through that fucking filter. You can't make money off of that. Right. There's your problem. That's why. The fuck making that much money. And I think that's the second hurdle we have to cross is like not being so fucking entranced by like the idea of like massive amounts of wealth and shit.

Most people i know don't want to be fucking wealthy yeah they just want to fucking live they just want to fucking be like yo can i eat out every now and then can i have not fucking be in a state of like worry about like can i afford to help my parents if they need something or can i sustain my own life that's it right well i i think most people sort of confuse what the value of money is right i think when you broke like it's like oh i want to have a nice house i want to have food i want to you know have a nice car all that kind of stuff but the reality is if you really like broke it down in its simplest form we're just looking for fucking freedom right like the freedom

to do what we feel like doing in that moment to bring us happiness you know what i mean if that's taking my family out to dinner i want to have the freedom to do so right if i see something that i like i want to have the freedom to to you know get it and not feel guilty about it you know what i mean i think or take time to go see my kids play fucking school exactly and not have my body okay well then you go get fired right right well that's and then that's what happens when you don't realize what you're actually looking for ironically you're looking for freedom then you end up getting less of it because you become so obsessed with like the materialistic, tangible part of it. But I think this is the disconnect we're seeing right now is and it's growing, is that more and more people either don't want to be wealthy or at the very least don't think being happy and able to live and be free should be contingent on being wealthy.

and able to live and be free should be contingent on being wealthy. And then the reality in America where if something, if an idea is not monetizable, it gets dropped. Like if somebody came up with a solution to this that actually worked but didn't make any money, like that's not going to get energy behind it in America. America is called human kindness. Right. It's capitalist in the most strict, definite like the the whole society is run by where the capital flows and where. And so it's it's a disconnect that I feel like more and more people are frustrated with and our economic system and our political system are completely incapable of dealing with that disconnect at the present moment. But it feels like we're moving towards something, but it's not going to be with this this current system. No. And I think that's why, yeah, we got to, you know, like that's what's so wild, too. Again, all of the solutions we're talking about, like they make the first idea you have is probably actually the solution.

Right. How do we stop all these shootings? We need better gun control. Right. You know, like not we need boxes. That's eight six year olds can fit inside of and can be blown up with C4 and they will still be safe inside. No. The answer is right there. How do do we stop how do we stop all this crime it's like well what's crime it's people that aren't supported we need to support people so they don't feel that compelled to say to me a catalytic converter is a meal or is a bill paid and you know and completely take out like just to really get down to the idea that all of the

fucking suffering we're experiencing is just from the in the unequal distribution of wealth and that we just need to smooth that out but again we live in a place where the people that are at the lever has got all the wealth and they're like okay try and come and get this shit right well we've created a country that is like uh more interested in just placing band-aids on things rather than actually treating the wound itself. And that's just been a vicious cycle that's continued on for centuries at this point. And that's kind of, I think, the major fault. It's like, oh, guns are a problem?

Yeah, let's give kids a better hiding place. Rather than actually going and taking the time to treat the wound, let's just keep slapping band-aids on it until people stop talking about it. Yeah. Because healing the wounds, again, aren't profitable. That's just the absurdity of our times for many centuries. Dramos, truly a pleasure

having you on the show. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Yes, at DJDramos, D-R-A-M-O-S on everything. You can, you can check me out there.

Nice. And what is, Life as a Gringo coming back? Yes, actually, today is the season two premiere. Hey,

congratulations. You guys can, can check that out. Thank you, man. I've been working really hard on it. It's amazing to, to be, you know,

welcome back with iHeart for a second season. So, man, definitely check that out. Any of my Latin brothers and sisters who kind of want to form a little bit more community around some ideas around personal growth and talking about many of our experiences, hopefully check out the podcast and I think you'll find some stuff that you could definitely resonate with. Man, The great New York, New Jersey pronunciation of podcast, by the way, I just had to comment on that. I'm glad I could give you some sort of East Coast swag on that. I've always wanted the accent. So now it's good that I know that I've finally achieved that goal in my life. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying?

tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Oh, I mean, I think for me, I've become obsessed with TikTok. And I'm a little late to the game. I finally embraced it. But I think this happened a couple weeks ago, but there was a clip from The Daily Show where they had the dude blaming Obama for 9-11. And that just is living rent free in my head. And it's something that I just when I get frustrated about all I'm seeing in the world, I remind myself of who I'm dealing with. And that's been bringing me a little bit more peace. There you go. Miles,

where can people find you? What's the tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at miles of gray. If you're liking basketball, cause the season's coming back around. Check Jack and miles out on miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties, our NBA podcast. And if you like trash reality like I do, then come on by to 420 Day Fiance.

Some tweets that I like. This is from Kate Wagner at McMansion Hell tweeted, Dude, Hillary praising Mussolini too for being a woman has got to be the most unreal PR own goal I've ever witnessed because she was really like well you know that's wow you know it's fascist fascist women now so that's that's good wow and we're like whoa okay

yeah is that on the show that she just dropped on Netflix or where did she do that oh no it was like it's on a I think it was an article like an advantage like she gave a quote i saw like a text sort of clipping of it so yeah anyway so love to see it we love to see it and then alien superstar at unicorn yemi tweeted i am so seriously committed to having a good time whenever possible in this miserable world very dead ass about my joy you should be dead ass about your joy don't

fucking compromise that shit because again you're the only one living in your own body love it all right you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien uh tweet i've been enjoying noah garfinkel tweeted these are the lyrics to the indiana jones theme song. And it's, and it's, uh, Dr. Pepper, Mr. Pibb, Dr. Pepper, Mountain Dew,

Code Red. I just, let him ramp free in my head. And then also Emily Heller just like tweeted a video she took of, she said, I'm watching the live action Pinocchio and it's so fucking off the wall. We're 30 minutes in and he's playing with a turd on the street. And that is indeed what is happening in the movie.

And I don't know. I've heard a couple of funny people talk about this movie. I think we might need to do a watch, an official watch of this, the new live action Pinocchio by Robert Zemeckis, who you know, forced Gump back to the future and then just like does not seem to be able to continue to exist in the modern world without just the strangest, wildest shit. Alright, you can find

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Oh, I mean, Brittany Howard, legendary vocalist. I don't have to say anything. If you know about the Alabama Shakes, you probably know about her. But this is a remix by Bad bad not good uh to the track tomorrow so this is the bad bad not good remix to britney howard's tomorrow um and it's dope it just kind of feels like a good i'm like reluctantly accepting that it's fall yeah so it's a good track to like kind of fall song still feels like art it still feels like you're like yeah yeah we still got like a little bit of summer energy but you also realize okay we might have to take the foot off the summer Can I just interject as somebody on the East Coast and just say fuck you guys, okay?

Oh La falls my goodness. I have to pull out a sweater. I don't know I'll be buried under snow in about a month. So I don't want to hear it it i look i'll trade with you i look look my whole outfit i was telling somebody the other day i have no summer clothing like i wear the same like shorts and t-shirt shit also i have no drip in the summer all of my clothing style investment has gone into like like fall winter clothing because i that shit just feels more fun to me. I will give you that. It is far better. But everybody who says, I would love to experience the season

says that until they have to actually experience the season and like shovel the snow and all that. I feel like what I need is to like do like a real, like miles on assignment in like Manitoba, Canada and like fucking like really go there with it. And they're like, oh, okay, motherfucker, you built for it? And then be like, day three wanna go home day three my seasonal affection disorder light is not working just to close up on your face with like the tear running down yeah uh freezing on his

cheek it's just this thing that you're frozen. Yeah, exactly. And it turns into a permanent scar. They think I have like a red tattoo. They're like, oh man, that's when I was crying in Manitoba, Canada in the dead of winter and that shit burned my skin. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio.

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