The Daily Zeitgeist - 4 Day WeekTrend 7/5: 4th of JuLiberia, White House Cocaine, Twitter, Threads, Box Office, Harvard

Episode Date: July 5, 2023

In this edition of 4 Day WeekTrend, Jack and Miles discuss the long holiday weekend, @GOP not knowing what the American flag looks like, a bag of cocaine found at the White House, Twitter limiting how many tweets unverified users can see, Meta's new Twitter competitor Threads, a box office update, and civil rights groups challenging Harvard's legacy student program!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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that is miles that is this is it is him uh yeah man how was your your four days your four days fuck it was jam-packed my mother-in-law was in town we we went all up and down the state to go visit people i fucking fireworks were not every fucking night basically starting thursday yeah um yeah. All good. How about you? It's good. It's good. We're on the East Coast.

It's very steamy. There's like... Oh, you mean, huh? There's a little steam, a little mist that my kids don't know how to make sense of. But yeah, it's been nice. You're not lying to them and telling them it's like something spooky, right? Yeah, it's ghosts. Yeah.

Ghosts of... It's ghost sweat. I know it's hot because the ghost starts sweating. Yeah. Should we kick it off with a little underrated overrated? Kick it off, man. Come on, Vinny Testaverde. Was he a kicker?

No. I'm thinking, what's the other Vinny? Adam Vinatieri. Adam Vinatieri. Yeah. Adam Vinatieri, Testaverde. It's a V-Niz, a Vinny.

The Italians with a V in their name will allow it. Vinatieri. I feel like I do firework stuff every year after the 4th of July for, what do you mean? Like I come back complaining about the same thing, but for my underrated, I'm going to switch it out. I'm going to go with how much of my time as a father of a five-year-old boy.

Any apology I ever make, any public apology, I will just inexplicably open it by saying, as a father of a five-year-old boy. I know. And he's actually 14 now, Jack. At one point, I was. Yeah. But just how much of my time is devoted to building legos rebuilding legos um i remember you said you were talking you've completely fucked up a lego thing i destroyed a whole cluster miles

you were like should i call it is there a service i can call what do i do and it so we've not just come back to you're doing it that thing together with him and then when he wasn't around i just like picked it up incorrectly i think i must have like missed a part i think i like skipped a step or something and it just fatal error shattered into a hundred pieces what was the exact toy it's the hulk buster so it's a iron man iron man suit yeah yeah yeah it's cool it's very cool it's for an advanced age you know it's for like eight year olds eight plus but my five-year-old like takes a lot of pride in being able to finish eight plus legos and so um i'm in the dog house man how far dog house over here brother are you rebuilding that thing right yeah just people i didn't i

didn't travel with it but that's the other thing is like it's just it's a weird premise to have a toy into your house i'll go build it while you're away it's a weird premise to like because i didn't really fuck with legos when i was a kid really yeah i don't know what was wrong with you so like nerd nerd didn't know about them you didn't like building shit toy guns was like all i cared about oh wow running around like action figures key man action figures a lot of homoeroticism built in there i think it explains a lot um but yeah just the idea of a toy my toys like when you pick them up wrong didn't break into 100 different pieces well that's the thing with legos man that they're not i i remember i loved

legos and i started playing with legos because my older cousins were really good at legos and i was like you can't handle this shit you're a baby and i was like fuck you and i would start making them but then i remember the first i had a lego car and you know like when you're a kid you start crashing shit into each other that's like one of the first forms of play you do with car toys i smashed the fuck out of this like not even the fuck out of it i just was playing with it like it wasn't made of little blocks and it exploded and i had a fucking meltdown and that's what my mom was like these aren't fucking like rough house toys they're like the you just like build them shits and you yeah you go lightly with them and i slowly learned but that's why i get you ready for a life of dealing with delicate glassware and less of like the things that boys naturally crystal stemware now yeah i can at least what my boy naturally

playing songs on crystal stemler um so that's my underrated what you got uh underrated knowing how to time your pet's anxiety meds so they don't have a meltdown with the fireworks uh on the bottle it says two hours before a potentially stressful event to give your pet this kind of stuff because my my dog is super anxious so when the fireworks go off he will like he just starts like shaking and shit so the first night given way too late the second time game way too early and then goldie locks that the last two nights of fireworks and yeah he's he's been fine but yeah this i always joke to people i like, firework season in LA is pretty similar, but truly like in my neighborhood, it starts on December 31st and ends on December 31st.

Like it's motherfuckers have just any reason to just set shit off where I live. And I, you know, I, I get it. I like it. But now like with a baby, like it,

it's funny how quickly I went from like, yeah, send that shit up to be like, I got a fucking kid, man. i like it but now like with a baby like it it's funny how quickly i went from like yeah send that shit up to be like i got a fucking kid man like that's my my whole i've done a 180 in that part but anyway yeah learning learning how to when the meds hit right but shout out to the veterinarian who hooked it up nice i mean i have a fireworks related overrated, which is fireworks displays. Like I feel like, oh, so the first 15 or so fireworks in a display and I'm speaking for myself because so I'm I prefer sporadically like little impromptu displays from different people's backyards. Like, you know, and please do it like right as the sun goes down. So people aren't having to like wake up in the middle of the night or, you know, like you can and please do it like right as the sun goes down so people aren't having to

like wake up in the middle of the night or you know like at 3 a.m over here yeah over there yeah but yeah i don't know like the second you commit to doing a long display in one place where everyone's gathering and like those first 15 really great no notes on the first 15 fireworks and then it's just the same shit over and over again i guess i think it's mainly for kids right and kids are on board a little bit more for a little bit longer but define display are we talking about like people like legit pyrotechnic show or somebody who just got a bunch of illegal fireworks like hey we're doing a display in my yard no like that like when there is a firework show like the town's putting on their firework show you go down you go to a place if or if you

can see it from your place great and it just lasts like i i happen to be watching cnn last night they were showing new york's fireworks which are i think some of the most famous and like they they just like outlasted the song like they were playing the frank sinatra new york new york and then the song ended and they were like and wow what a great uh wait nope they're still going they went for like five minutes longer new york and then they were just it was still it was aggressive and it lasted for like the finale just felt i don't know it felt like it was designed to fuck with pets and veterans and i don't know it just feels like they they need to either figure out some new types of fireworks or like three minutes. Like, is anyone out there like three minutes way too short for a fireworks display?

Otherwise, I feel like we could get it done in three minutes. Like people I like are constantly complaining that movies are too long, but I have literally never seen a fireworks seen that didn't seem like it was dragging ass a couple minutes in yeah i it all depends man because unless you're seeing like a renowned fireworks display it can get a little boring because like you only usually like you only got maybe like the three types of fireworks people do you know what i mean uh but i think for me personally i would probably prefer if we had something more like in the movie coneheads where dan akroyd is in charge of the fireworks display at the homecoming game and he has one bottle rocket but it sets off like a supernova in the sky and everyone's all fucked up from looking at it and

it's just one explosion i'm fine with that like just give me something spectacular in one go because i feel like yeah there was that one town that accidentally set off all their fireworks at once perfect it just didn't do the timing perfect perfect that's all you need. Yeah. It was like shock and awe. There was one in a nearby town that did a half hour one. Yeah. No, that's too much. And I saw some of it and I'm like, yo, these are some low rent fireworks too. You're doing

30 minutes because you're doing quantity over quality. Yeah. And that's what happens. On Pure Quality, you can give me one gigantic one. That's fine. Just do a mushroom cloud. Fine. Good.

I want to, I kind of want to interview for one of our expert episodes, like somebody who is like the firework display architect who's like, you know, real in the orthodoxy of like, no, no, no, no. Three minutes is simply too short. You must. Why is that? He's like the human brain it's like wait what miles you're really telling a story with these fireworks and it's and in this

story it's us just freeing ourselves from the shackles of king george yes um by the way i do like they're speaking of the oldest story starting a fire a campfire i could watch that for an hour just watch it look at a fucking campfire i think i think this is just me being like i'm old i'm old i'm old just over and over companion over here yeah i love to see a fire get started with that dang thing wow look at that tinder wood he got what you burning over there a nearby fire yeah oh just uh just some wood okay what are you going to start it some birch bark is that birch bark birch bark's good i hear to start a fire it got oil got a little kindling um anyway so my overrated is uh making a quote-unquote beach day work when the weather

is not fucking conducive to having a quote-unquote beach day yeah i'm spoiled because i'm from los angeles so when we go to the beach we would be like yo is it fucking hot let's go to the fucking beach that like it's going to be scorching let's just go frolic in the sea then i know people who are just beach people all the time like they just want to be at the beach whenever and this weekend some parts of the state some parts of california looked really hot which sometimes i think a lot of people have this habit of just assuming that because it's hot like in one part of la it means the beaches are going to be fucking sweltering. And you go overcast as shit, and the high is 65. It's a two-part question.

Is it hot where you are? Yes. Is it hot when you're standing directly next to the largest thing on Earth, the Pacific Ocean, which is frigid at all times. It's fucking freezing. It's not known for its hot waters. It's not known for the Atlantic Ocean.

Unless you're near the equator or something but yeah so uh i just i just it's just funny because like i find how much of a beach curmudgeon i can be like i love i love going to places where it's curmudgeon great great beach weather but when it's cold i'm like shivering in the sand i'm like what the fuck are we doing what's the point of this man here yeah yeah totally totally and i i just become like the life is drained out of me but then like after a while you kind of have fun but i still don't understand like when i see like little kids playing in that cold ass water yeah i think i like i now realize how my mom like would always respond to be like oh my god what are you doing you're gonna catch a cold type shit uh but yeah they i don't know what happened i don't know where i lost that joy to be just in

the shivering cold and that was fun i think we're getting old man yeah we got the beach curmudgeon over here and the campfire appreciator okay we're the oldest humans on the planet. On Earth. Yeah. Old man. Make Joe Biden look like a Zoomer. That's right. All right.

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they believe to be american flags but what most people realized who you know played carmen san diego or just into flags are like that's the liberian flag yeah one star that's literally one star that's it's liberia and they just like quietly deleted it and then just posted a bunch of americana horse shit like just to kind of cleanse the timeline but it's funny because all these users just kept coming back to like reply like screen caps of that first tweet and they're like y'all don't even know that is this you the people who don't know the flag okay good to know good to know yeah they came for the white house pride flag on like flag flag grounds flag they were they were literally talking citing the u.s flag code um which you know

they clearly found out was a thing after rage googling it at 3 a.m but their their complaint was that putting the pride flag on the white house was in breach of flag code oh yeah uh-huh what is that exactly? Because you guys are the people who don't even know which flag is ours. American flag needs to be the highest flag on White House. Which, first of all, they took a picture of just a small part of the White House and cut out the part where there was an American flag up higher than the, like on the top of the White House. And second of all is like not even

unofficial thing it's just bullshit yeah they're just they're they're not again it's it's so funny the conservatives always like if if society is like moving too far along for them then they have to go back to find some weird rule like it's against the rules but then but then you also contradicted constantly with your policies that like what's like it's against the rules but then but then you also contradicted constantly with your policies that like what's like it's in the constitution but i will also violate other people's enumerated rights within the constitution so it's very tiring i think it's just a nice cherry on top that you know with all this fucking hand-wringing about the flag code that the people who run their social media accounts don't even know what the

fuck the flag is i think some other congress people also did it too this wasn't like it's not an isolated incident people pretty regularly i think post the liberian flag thinking it's the american flag yeah just it's the like uh powerpoint presentation version of the american flag yeah i can't put 50 stars on this bitch oh this one's cool it's like minimal it's like got one star okay one star review of america yeah all right well speaking of the white house and conservatives freaking out um we got a cocaine caper so we you know we talked last week cocaine mania is transforming transforming America into a country of strung out 80s stockbrokers.

A baggie of coke was found in the White House on the 4th of July weekend. There was a brief evacuation miles. For sure. Cool. They saw white powder and they thought we were back in like the

who was it was it tom dashiell that got the the the white powder yeah yeah yeah that's that feels like a throwback so um they they then tested the white powder presumably in a bathroom stall on a depeche mode cd case and discovered that was cocaine. And now the secret service is launching a full investigation, reviewing video footage, scouring entrance logs, which, uh, both seems like a complete waste of time.

And also I feel like we're not going to get, unless it's just like some guy visiting the white house. Like, yeah, we're not going to get the answers yeah i i cool who left there i'm like i feel bad for the person who left their cocaine there yeah they're like oh shit what fucking drop the baggie bro where in the white house no oh my god and how are we gonna get to this dinner back again i fucking can't back to the Bro, where? In the White House. No. Oh, my God.

Go back and get it. Back to the fucking White House. Did you see this fucking on lockdown? There's a guy in a fucking bomb suit. They probably think it's anthrax or some shit. Well, that's good. I mean, at least they're being safe because you never know. Like the police might randomly pass out near it if they get too close to the back so i do feel like

if joe biden accidentally like stepped on it and just like a little cocaine dust like accidentally got inhaled it might kill him like he's yeah like trump right he like never drank or like did a any anything so i feel like oh he did it why'd i vote for him i know fucking dork you got to do coke if i'm gonna vote for you joe i'm sorry man that is your policy you're like a drug dealer in a movie where you're like you got to prove to me you're not a cop man you're not a cop do this okay all right you're under arrest but you did the yeah so what shit i thought it was a law but yeah i don't know i mean it could be a big smoke bomb to distract from i don't know the existing hunter that is my question because obviously the new york post and the conservative media are like it's hunters it's gotta be hunters and on the one hand

my first instinct is like well can't be hunters because we found out about like they would just cover that shit up like the New York Post created a whole map of the building like it's a game of clue like a topical map of like here's this room it's like one of those stories where it's a little thing that I'd imagine it's mostly conservative

media that like is latching onto it making it seem like a bigger story than it is because they can use cocaine Biden. And then just like, just ring that out for as much of what little juice is left in that berry. Um, because like,

I don't know, there was a, there was like a huge event of like there too. So I don't know, you know, people in and out of there all the time. Yeah. The chain smokers were playing the uh like some washed like dj um but that does i don't know there is a world

to me that makes sense that like because why let it become a question it's either smoke bomb to distract from something else or i think there is a world in which like they are tired of, like when you look at like leaks from the Hunter Biden laptop, which is the only news I consume. Of course. Well, you just look at those two pictures. My conservative uncle sends me.

Yes. No, you're not really going through stuff. You just go back and forth to image files. Yeah. But like, there's a reason that this has to leak right like it's a pretty button operation no no because the way i saw it over the weekend was there was

like an ap alert because they had to call in a hazmat team oh and that's why it became news because suddenly a hazmat team was called to the white house because the the secrets so at first i was like oh shit like what you know it was more like is it anthrax type energy what the news was and then it's like false alarm guys it's just one of the secret service agents coke yeah there's an ap alert that went out that was like hey somebody left their coke hey come get it come get it come get it come get it come get it hurry hurry hurry before it's a news story. And then I think from there, then you can have the words, it's like a Mad Libs

where you have cocaine, Biden, White House. Yeah. So my theory was that the Secret Service is tired of being on the Hunter Biden detail and are just like, alright, let's leak this, but that's, you know. Nah, nah, it just just it was because they thought

we'll be quoting this um yeah they're like even their own people we are we do work for the biden white house that is we are their own knowledge all right uh twitter had a tough weekend those of us who are yo i didn't i didn't go on there but i saw what happened they're throttling how many fucking tweets you can see now yeah like there's a limit unless you pay yeah unless you unless you're one of the blue checks oh my god so start limiting the number of posts you could see each day in 600 which which a lot of tweets for me, but people were apparently reaching their limit and seeing a post that was like, you have reached the end of Twitter for the day. Go, go outside. Oh, no, they upped it.

Unverified can do a thousand now. Yeah. Yeah. 10,000 if you are verified. if you are verified i think one that is crazy to me is that like they so they're also limiting use of tweet deck which affects like super users right they're also like you can't see tweets unless you're logged in which so cool the main way you could bring new users to your site is removed don't need them don't need them just need these assholes to start coughing up money and then it'll all be okay that feels like their whole strategy it's like we just gotta

fucking squeeze these fuckers until they start paying us and i don't know what that force will do if that pushes them to another place but come on yeah you need people to be able to spend unlimited time on your platform if like he hired even though he's like i don't want people to be able to spend unlimited time on your platform. If like he hired, even though he's like, I don't want it to be ad supported as much as like a subscription supported that ship sailed. He hired a sales person, an ad sales person as his CEO. And every one of these moves is just like disastrous for a business like that. Yeah. I feel like Linda Iaccarino had a really stupid explanation for why the site is as backwards as it is. Again, she speaks in such vague terms. I never know what the fuck she's saying.

She said, when you have a mission like Twitter, you need to make big moves to keep strengthening the platform. This work is meaningful and ongoing. What the fuck does that you're you're you're whatever just keep frustrating people on there i mean it's it's been the best way honestly for me to use the site less yeah that is it is helpful to people who are trying to have lives but it's um bad for them it's got yet more ammo for people who are somehow under the impression that elon musk doesn't know what the fuck he's doing he claimed it was because bots are like scraping twitter to feed like ai algorithms people knowledgeable about that say

like that happens but it's been a thing for a very long time and wouldn't have just like kicked up recently and also he cut all these services as a one billion dollar bill to google for cloud hosting was due so he just doesn't have enough money oh i like that my man is canceling the free trial right at the last minute yeah yeah go ahead elon. We see you. You broke billionaire. Meta has an app that the mainstream media is going crazy about called Threads that's scheduled to drop on Thursday, I believe. Yeah. And it builds itself as like an Instagram app that is basically aimed at Twitter users. But I don't know.

I don't. Twitter is kind of defined by its lack of functionality like it doesn't have the things that facebook already has or like instagram so like they're just gonna launch the version of their most popular sites that just like has features removed i guess like the the thing that makes you want to be on twitter is the people who are already there and like the established culture uh and you know that's that's being rapidly destroyed but at least like i have a list of people that i follow who are funny and i can go there and be entertained by them um so i don't i just i don't know maybe buy a ticket to their shows jack

maybe that sounds inefficient miles yeah buy 3 000 tickets of your favorite comedians the thing with the threads though that i was reading is that like it's not even coming out in the eu because the privacy shit is like so fucked up they're gonna they're gonna like take your blood type if you use threads based on like when you look at all the info like the data that it's trying to get i think it's a very clever thing because we all know how when apple made it very difficult for um like you know these apps to scrape other data like passively you know how like you can opt out basically from sharing all that data that like fucked facebook terribly and maybe they're back with this being like well maybe we can get some of that sweet sweet data from with our threads app to get people you know on our shit

and then we can learn everything about them again yeah my gut is that it's not going to be replaced by because it's like so powered by people who are you know a small number of people who are really active and smart on on twitter and so i i just feel like the solution is not going to be like and we all just discovered that mark zuckerberg created this cool thing that uh has no problems and is is a safe place for everybody to go so i I don't know. I I'm guessing that's not it, but the mainstream media, I think is going to cover it as that. Um,

I mean, yeah, every fist fight was called off. Right. Well, every, well, I don't know.

It still seems like it's on actually. Oh, really? Every news article continues to talk about it. Yeah. But he's training with George St. Pierre and shit. I know who that is because i'm a he's

a guy who looks like a discount jean-claude van damme that's all you need to know and he was like a and like a ufc fighter but yeah the thing that's really wild is like i when i'm looking at all of this stuff the data that it's scraping it's truly like oh yeah it's surveillance capitalism the app is what threadsreads is. I mean, like, pretty much all meta apps are because that's like their entire business. But again, that's why it won't be launching in the EU quite yet, because, you know, they have like laws that are like, hey, don't send people sensitive data all around. Yeah, it's it's probably a good idea that I don't actually it's not a practice I actually, you know, engage in. But I probably should is just like check whether it's not a practice I actually, you know, engage in, but I probably should, is just like check whether it's legal in the EU

and then, you know. But then I wouldn't be able to drink Mountain Dew. Yeah, or have Skittles. Wasn't it Skittles, the other one that has that dye in it? Yeah. There's like certain candies too. It's like the thing that makes it shiny I think is actually just like wood polish.

Love it. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break, and we'll be back with a couple more stories. We'll be right back. Bye. I'm Jess Casavetto,

executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine.

Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts.

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The Wokes finally killed Hollywood guys. Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny made fun of capitalism in the trailer. Oh, shit. There was like some line that was like, he was like, you stole that from me, you stole that from me, and then Phoebe Waller-Bridge was like, it that was like, he was like, you stole that for me. You stole that for me. And then maybe while I bridge is like,

uh, it's called capitalism guys. And so I think everyone's mad and that's why it didn't do well. Don't make us aware of it. Because it's an action movie that stars an 80 year old. Hey, Hey, Hey man,

80 year olds can also be slightly compelling action stars. 80 year olds can kick their own ass by being in a movie also he's like never been he's always had 80 year old vibes like when he throws a punch he usually falls over like forward like he always seems off balance he always seems like he's on a ship that is in rough weather like whenever he's in a fistfight you know yeah he's like he's got like drunken master fighting style like in all harrison ford movies he's never been someone who's thrown like a convincing punch he's almost like well i guess i gotta hit you like it's like fighting i feel like he throws a punch and then his like suit jacket flies up over his head somehow

yeah yeah i always have a picture of him and like his jacket has like come over his elbow like he's in a hockey fight where someone pulled his jersey over his head yeah what am i thinking of oh i think it's in clear and present danger yeah clear and present danger and air force one are basically the same character and it's like you know he's he's tough but he worked i think in clear and present danger it's the scene where their convoy gets ambushed in columbia yeah and like they get started getting like rocket blasted and shit and i think there's this shot where he's running away from like a suburban yeah uh and like i still remember that scene where the secret service guy goes we're

getting rocket blasted, sir. But yeah, Jack, it is this one. It's this explosion because his arms... It's this one. You know, because his jacket's all clumsy. He loves to have a suit jacket flying up behind him. And that's what I think of Harrison Ford. Totally. In his most action-packed,

he's clumsily navigating his own suit jacket yeah yeah anyways i mean he's he's one of our greatest movie stars currently but that's currently fogging a mirror uh so i don't i don't want to blame that at all um yeah yeah i think you need for something like this to really succeed. And it also like, didn't totally tank. It made $82 million, uh, over its first five days.

But I think you really need the reviews to be like super fucking strong. You know, it's like a movie that people remember. Like the first three are like two of the first three, I guess are our classics and the first three, I guess, are our classics. And the fourth one like suck. So to get people back, I think they really needed this to be like really,

really strongly reviewed. And the review is more in the like fast and the furious range. And I don't think that was going to do it for them. I think they should have paid rotten tomatoes a little bit more to get, get them the like 80s yeah come on dude just goose the numbers come on they're goosed i think they think they gotta just do like barbie right now barbie is doing the thing that indiana jones should have been doing which is i'm gonna see barbie i'm gonna see it there's so much marketing that also has me excited. Like they're everywhere to the point that I think there's a global movement

happening to see Barbie and with Indiana Jones. Like I, it was like a whimper of like an announcement or any kind of hype, which they should, because you're trying to, you're trying to press that nostalgia button on the audience, which Barbie's doing very well. I think marketing wise yeah that i feel like

that because the way i when interacted with it was just hearing people be like oh yeah do you see it i'm like oh it's out there like yeah it's pretty good it's pretty good it's not bad yeah that's kind of like what i heard and then cut to me at the movie theater deciding which movie to go to i chose no hard feelings because it was short jennifer lawrence you chose uh give me one ticket to jennifer lawrence please sir give me one ticket to the jennifer lawrence yeah how old jennifer lawrence's it's fun it's like it's like a great it's like a fucking yeah it's fun baby i can't get mad at it it's short that's what i like it it felt it was predictable matthew broderick is in it and he looked and i'm like whoa look at old ass matthew broderick is in it. And I'm like, whoa, look at old-ass Matthew Broderick,

which is nice to see because I'm so used to seeing Cameron from Ferris Bueller's Day Off in the form of Connor Roy that it's nice to see Ferris Bueller himself now in his latter days. But yeah, it was fun. And yeah, Jennifer Lawrence, I'm not going to front. She has good comedic chops. This feels like the most full embodiment of them like matching her off screen persona to her like you usually like she was in serious roles for the most part right like that i feel like she had never gone full jennifer lawrence

in a movie to this point and so oh yeah like to play like a scumbag type character yeah she's kind of like a scumbag yeah yeah it's it's it's yeah i'm not again and it's it's under two hours come on y'all come on baby it's a problem with dial of destiny that you know people are mentioning when they're like it only made 82 million is that it costs 29295 million miles. Is it because we're talking like Avatar type? Did they really remove his jowls for the whole movie? I heard it's just the first 30 minutes that he's jowlless. Yeah.

He's actually had complete male pattern baldness for the past 40 years and just everything he's appeared in. Refuses to wear wigs though. Yeah. He's like, figure it out in post. That was a big part of the water world budget was kevin costner being like my hair doesn't look good there because it's wet um so yeah we're gonna need to add a full head of hair back um and a lot of braid too

if you don't mind i've always thought it'd be cool to have a little braid oh if you don't think he actually got the braid you're crazy but some reports even think it may have actually cost more than 300 million dollars um and that's without marketing costs so this is like pure production budget it's like wait so what was his fee what was i don't know but that is the thing that they like that there is a financial benefit to being someone who's just terminally over everything. Yeah. It seems like he's just like, what? I don't know, man.

Fine. If you pay me enough. But the higher price tags reportedly due to Harrison Ford's salary, Steven Spielberg's huge producing fee, and then the stop and start of production during COVID, which, you know, I can't hate him for that. Wait, oh, so it's saying that it's an estimated $20 million for Harrison Ford. That's more. So Jennifer Lawrence made more money than Harrison Ford did. She made $25 doing No Hard Feelings. I mean, rightly so.

I just love that this movie goes way. Because that was the other problem with no hard feelings i i think we were talking about it because jm was bringing up how the budget was also super high and no hard feelings and even though it did semi well it's hard to like recoup a lot of like the talent fees i feel like nobody was buying a ticket for dial of destiny and first of all nobody was buying a ticket to dial of destiny and saying the words dial of destiny which they another thing i would say pay rotten tomatoes more to get the review up over like 80 90 and also like fire whoever the fuck is coming up with these titles like kingdom of the crystal skull and dial of destiny right such fucking clunkers man but yeah apparently

it looks like shit like the cgi looks pretty bad uh the jm went and saw it and said which like there needs to be some sort of c change with uh how hollywood thinks about cgi because it's been bad for a couple years now like i post all all of the avengers movies they're, I think it might be that like effect houses unionize and start getting paid well. And like, then you can actually stay in business because like, you,

you know, you're in trouble when like the people who win the Academy award are already like out of business for the life of pie. And like the people who brought Tupac back to life for that live, uh, hologram event. They were out of business by the time that story hit. It's just terrible.

It seems like I smell private equity, which would be my guess here. You gotta take over the CG houses. Yeah. Super producer Becca saw Indiana Jones and really had a good time. Yeah. I'm gonna see that shit. and really had a good time. So, you know. I'm going to see that shit. As for the Zeitgeist meter, the Zeitmeter,

our movie review rating, we're one for one. Although, Jams, the CG sucked. So we have to get his official fresher. See it if you want. I'm sure there's a lot of Nazi punching or see No Hard Feelings where if Jennifer Lawrence's character was a man

then you'd be like, this is the most fucked up movie I've ever seen in my life. Did she fuck that kid? I guess that was the question begged by the trailer. Did she fuck that kid? Why is she on trial right now? I would watch it.

I would argue whether or not what occurred can be called intercourse. Okay. Um, that is at all intriguing now. I don't know. And then finally, some civil rights groups are challenging,

uh, legacy admissions at Harvard university, uh, you know, in light of the Supreme court shooting down affirmative action at Harvard and other schools. Um, and I don't,

I'm sure we'll start getting the infuriating, like legal technicalities, but like the only explanation I've heard for like, why not to do this is colleges being like, but it helps with donations, which is not really what are you, what's your fucking tuition for? You fuck with.

And all of a sudden they have like endowments of billions and billions of dollars. They have endowments of like a fucking hedge fund. Uh, and also like just saying that out loud, like I, that's not a like argument you make in the public. Like you don't say we let the rich white people's children into our supposedly idealistic institution because they give us money.

They give us money. Oh, OK. Never mind. We thought something like racist and unfair was happening here. It's it's the logical evolution of already a discriminatory practice. When you're out, we were telling it started in the 20s because it was a way to keep Jewish and minority

students out of universities. So then, because they can't say that anymore, because at first they'd be like, well, that's how we keep, you know, you know who out of the class. That they're now like, well, it's good for money money that's the one they say out loud yeah well because they bribe us and we already have like a lot of money but like we

really fucking like money but those are bribes so wait i'm sorry what are you saying to do it's nothing else it's just they bribe us so don't think about the worst thing that it could be um yeah yeah so i don't know i don't like i don't have any legal expertise so don't think about the worst thing that it could be um yeah yeah so i don't know i don't like i don't have any legal expertise i don't know how this thing like winds its way through the courts but it does seem like pretty bulletproof to me at this point and again you know that this study after study shows diversity in your classes is in like really make the difference in a lot of people's lives than going to like a one note monotone school where everyone you know fucking checkbooked their way

into the class we just learn how to befriend jaded rich kids like yeah that's yeah that's your skill that you're gonna get to learn in the future here yeah or yeah exactly or like yeah we we can i don't know whatever it's it's there's nothing there's nothing that suggests doing it helps fucking anybody except to you know create less diversity into college classes and campuses learn what rich kids who went to prep school call cocaine at harvard you know cool all right you'll fit in at all the parties on the hamptons and yeah where's your family's boat docked exactly what flag do you fly on your yacht oh not a panamanian one okay okay that's fine that's truly like they give us money it is so bad it's so bad and it's so just it's blatantly that like the rich get favorable

treatment like it's yeah i mean it's just been an it's been an open secret like in universities or not even secret it's just an open thing that they like didn't even think to make a secret a couple years ago we're talking about how flagrant it was people like hey make some fake ass regatta fucking pictures of you on a rowboat so we can get you into college you don't have that shit like yeah it's there's clearly so many we talk about us all the time there's so many different versions of reality based on what your income is or your family's income or wealth is and one version is you can be passive all the way into college and your money can get you there another version is you have to toil even in high school to like get to get your shit

together to even be able to have some semblance of money to afford college and right now we're debating whether or not we turn off their backdoor money spigot yeah brett kavanaugh like you you know i'm sure you guys talked about this but he is a legacy admission and he got into yale because he claims he busted his tail he busted his tail okay as a sperm he is just the crystallization of like what if a gym teacher was a Supreme Court justice? Like everything, like in seeing him interviewed during that Supreme Court, like his hearing or whatever it was. His confirmation. Yeah, confirmation hearing. Like he is just gym teacher and like high school football coach energy.

Like he stopped developing when he thought his high school football coach was cool. He was on jv basketball his senior year and he never left town yeah busting his tail and he never left and that pain now carries him all the way to the supreme court a lot of people think i'm on something i'll tell you what i'm on i'm on my bike 24 hours a day. Big Lance Armstrong energy. All right. Those are some of the things that are trending on this Wednesday, July 5th.

We are back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing

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