The Daily Zeitgeist - 4 Day Work Week 5 Eva, QAnon Makes Child Trafficking Worse 7.12.21

Episode Date: July 12, 2021

In episode 948, Jack and Miles are joined by writer and performer Korama Danquah to discuss the four day work week, QAnon's new plan, streaming ratings and the box office, and more!FOOTNOTES: All of Us Should Be Working Four-Day Weeks QAnon's new 'plan'? Run for school board Sex-trafficking survivors say QAnon's anti-trafficking crusade is hurting more than it's helping Barry Diller Headed 2 Hollywood Studios. He Now Says The Movie Business Is Dead Nielsen Streaming Ratings: Netflix’s ‘Sweet Tooth’ Shows Bite for the Week of June 7-13 Box Office: ‘F9’ Reigns Over July 4th Weekend as ‘Boss Baby 2,’ ‘Zola’ Start Strong LISTEN: SAULT - Wildfires (Lyrics Video) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you get your podcasts hello the internet and welcome to season 193 episode one of the production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness uh it is monday july 12 2021 my name is jack o'brien aka apple of Shared Consciousness. It is Monday, July 12th, 2021. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Apple Jack, which was my actual nickname for a week of basketball camp when I was a kid due to a hand twitch I had

while holding an apple that caused me to just launch the apple across the cafeteria table into my coach's bowl of cereal milk. And he called me Apple Jack derisively for the rest of the week no but it would have been it would have been perfect but he was yeah love love when it wasn't wasn't that wasn't at the time when a coach would give you a toxic nickname based on something that's different about you yeah yeah and that was uh that wasn't that bad. I mean, for all the things.

But I've always had trouble with my hands. I've never known what to do with my hands. And sometimes they'll just freak out and throw an apple across the room. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Yes, going straight from the 818 to the 808. Coming soon to Oahu is your boy from the 818 to the 808. Coming soon to Oahu is your boy from the San Fernando Valley, Mr. Hideo Noho. Yes.

You know, Zyke Gang, I'm going to be making my way to Oahu. So if you got some recommendations, hit me up. Because I'm trying to take advantage of some free time, some working remote. But yes, Hideo Noho in the building. Thank you for having me. And I hope to see you launch something involuntarily at some point. I've gotten better control of my hands, but they'll still freak out every once in a while. Are we like alien limb syndrome? Yeah, a little bit like some momentary alien limb syndrome. It came up because my three-year-old's having a lot of sleep trouble and he crawled into bed with my wife last night and was hitting her and punching her and she was like do you ever have like weird like twitches and stuff and i was like huh now that you mention it

i don't know i don't think so i never heard anything like that That's wild Well Miles we are thrilled to be joined In our third seat by the very talented Actress, writer, podcaster Educator Karama Donkwa Welcome Thank you for having me Mr. Applejack and Mr. Miles

I do have a question about that apple story Was it a red apple or a green apple? Because one of them. Oh, that's the worst one. Yeah, I feel like that's worse. I'd rather have a green apple land in my cereal milk than a red apple. Oh, interesting. Hold on. That's very specific. Why is that? I have no idea. I'm just like, no, I'm like, huh? And now I'm sort of like, damn, am I not thinking critically enough about some of the things he's saying? And now I'm sort of like, damn, am I not thinking critically enough about some of the things he's saying? I might be thinking too critically about that story.

It feels like a Tim Robinson sketch. I didn't focus on the limb aspect of it. I'm like, but what color was the apple? Yeah. I just had it right here, like next to my head. And then it just went like that. Just flew away from my wasn't i thought you wound up no no you launched it oh so was he just across the table from you yeah he was just he was like down the table a few people oh man it was like a salt bay situation but like with an yeah

it was a it was a spastic salt bay situation oh or like you were one of those card magicians and you're throwing a card yeah yeah exactly right right right okay yeah now you see me and i've ruined your cereal milk with this half-bitten apple karama what is good what's new with you uh what's good what's new i'm about to move back to the 818 what what oh yeah next week i'm moving to van Nuys. So excited about that. And then I just wrapped on season one of iCarly where I was working in the writer's room, the reboot. Or revival, I think is the technical term. But, you know, people just be throwing out rewords all over the place. Sure, sure.

And I have an episode that I got to write and it comes out in a couple of weeks. So that's what's new. Wow. Amazing. That's so dope. I've been intersecting with so much iCarly talent recently. And eventually we'll get Lacey back on here.

But I met Francesca over the weekend. Ramsey. Oh, yeah. Very lovely person. And I was just like, man, this seems like the best show to be working on. Yeah, no, I love Lacey. Love Francesca. God, I was like a huge Francesca stan before the show.

And like when I got the list of people who were there. You remember those internet videos? I like had a heart attack and I texted all my friends. I was like, oh my God, Francesca Ramsey is going to be working in the room. And I like had to be normal for six months working with her. How'd you do? How'd you do as trying to be normal? Not great.

Not great. working with her how'd you do how'd you do as not great normal yeah you came holding a printout you wanted her sign like in front of your chest like hi so it's my first day i'm karama blessedly we were working remote oh right right right so i did not i would have i would have been like hi this is the video that you did like six years ago will you sign print house summit no i mean just generally i didn't do a great job being normal not just francesca wise the first day of work we were introducing ourselves and like i said that i thought that uh emotion by carly ray jefferson was one of the best albums of all time and i thought it was criminally underrated and i was like this is not a normal way to introduce yourself. Just say your name and stop talking. Right.

Oh, you just came with a hot take right out of the gate. Well, somebody asked me, what has Carly Rae Jepsen been up to since Call Me Maybe? Which was a mistake on their part. I made that mistake very early on in this show. And the CRJ goons came for me. But shout out to y'all because you did convert me. Because so many people were like, put that out of your mind, what you think you may know, and just put this album on and listen to it. And I'm like, this shit is just really good.

This is like solid pop music. It's really good. It's really, really good. It's really good. It's like solid pop music. Yeah. It's really good. It's really, really good. I have a, for my birthday, for my 30th birthday, the room got me a Carly Rae Jepsen quilt.

Oh. And it's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. And I carry it around with me when I like travel places. Like I'm Linus from the Peanuts. Just with your Carly Rae Jepsen. Edit that out. Don't tell anybody that. Oh my God.

Why did I say that? You know, because you're just letting them know i do so many of those hooks i really like i really really really like you like you can they're easy to sing and like run away with me there's so many earworms in that album that's what i'm saying you know what and you know maybe your boy is having la hallucinations these days who knows yeah yeah oh myA. hallucinations is my song. Oh, my gosh. Yes. You've come to the right place.

That whole album is good. I'm so glad I found my people. I mean, look, I'm a new, I'm just, I'm CRJ curious. You know what I mean? That's fine. And I'm opening my, I'm expanding my horizons. And I realized, man, why did I have that all? Why did I have the wrong ideas about this?

I think so many fandoms are really toxic in that they think if you haven't been there since day one, you don't have as much legitimacy as people who have been there since day one. And I don't think that that's true. I think that if you are gathering enjoyment from whatever the fandom is, even if it is your first day when it's somebody else's 10,000th day, then good for you. And you don't have to be like, I know every song. I know every hook. I know that she was third place on Canadian Idol. I know that she starred as Frenchie in Grease Live. I know that she played Dorothy in The Wiz in high school, which is, I have feelings about that.

In The Wiz? The Wiz. Well, let's move past that because we really love emotion and we want to have the positive vibes up. And, you know, high school was a strange time. But yeah, for sure. Gatekeeping is just so exhausting because I myself have been like that when I was in college and stuff. You know, going to college and the aughts. That was peak like, check out my fucking DVDs.

Check out my albums that I have. And you're coming at people like, oh, you don't know Portishead's dummy? What the fuck you talking? And then I realized, that's just me because all I had for my personality or my identity was to say I knew a lot about this other shit

rather than being more secure in who I just was fundamentally as a human being outside of my interests. And then you have to realize, oh yeah, let, just welcome everybody. The newcomers can experience it and enjoy it in a way that you can't. So let them, let them have that.

That's why actually you want to be. And again, shout out to all the Zeit gang who are not, not like being shitty about the, my first early Carly Rae Jepsen takes, but we're very much like, Hey, I get it,

but you should really, you really owe it to yourself. You seem to like you should listen to it you'll enjoy it and i did and even the subsequent albums but i think you know as it relates to when like bringing somebody in there's no better feeling actually when you put somebody on to something and you watch them light up being like this is so good you're like yes okay yeah yeah well that's why those two guys those brothers on like youtube who do them like listening to songs for the first time i think that that's why they're so popular because it's like we love these songs we get to watch them fall in love with these songs like when i heard that drum break on in the air tonight they were like what yo what and i'm like

yes that's how i felt too right exactly but exactly. But for us, all of our dopamine receptors have burned out in terms of these albums. So it happens, you're like, I just need this to live. But I enjoy seeing others get life. All right, Karamo, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we are going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today. We're going to check in with that Iceland experiment with the four-day work week because they just, you know, as Americans, we know a four-day work week is a joke. Anything less than a six-day work week is for lazies. And so we just want to check in and see how that turned out. We're going to talk about QAnon, what the latest

manifestation of QAnon looks like. We'll look at streaming ratings and Barry Diller, this article where an interview with NPR where Barry Diller was like, the film industry's dead. And looks in the picture exactly like that old man mask that people use to rob banks. Have you seen that? Those old man masks? masks oh what are the old oh have they been in movies yes yeah yeah i've never heard look at look at the picture of barry diller in the story like he looks i and that is what the old man mask looks like it's like a just standard archetypal old man head yeah where. Where it's like bulbous nose

and just like thin salamander lips. I'm pretty sure they just interviewed somebody in one of those masks and thought it was Barry Diller. They interviewed a bank robber who just had a lot of takes on the film industry. We will talk

about some streaming numbers, all of that, plenty more. But first, Karama, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? I searched, are Neanderthals human? Because I wasn't 100 on that. Because I know that some people have Neanderthal DNA, but we talk about Neanderthals, like they're different from people. And they like, kind of are but also kind of aren't so i was like what's the deal there what's yeah yeah wasn't there a recent discovery that neanderthals have were like creating art i think so i think so that sounds

right but they are human but not the same way are. So we kind of absorbed them and then replaced them. But if we were able to reproduce with them, I feel like that, to me, feels human. I mean, I'm not going to be able to reproduce with a snake and have a snake person, right? Have you met my ex-wife? Okay, like Kevin James from 2007 2007 that was that old prospector you never slept in with a snake before yeah so you yeah i feel like if you can procreate it's something's matching up but i guess that yeah so some people you're saying do like is that is that just to take a shot at somebody being like you you got Neanderthal DNA. Or on your 23andMe, they're like, hey.

On your 23andMe, they'll be like, you have 1% Neanderthal DNA. Or you have more Neanderthal DNA than is average for humans. I have not done 23andMe. I'm not trying to sell my spit to anybody. Not sell it. Pay for it. I'll sell my spit. Yeah, of course.

On a subreddit for people who are into that. Yeah, sure. Hit me up if you are interested in paying me for spit. Don't actually do that. Please don't do that. Reddit r slash spit BST. Buy, sell, trade. That's what BST stands for. trait. Yeah, so there's a new study out, or a new

discovery in a Neanderthal camp where there's like some kind of little sculpture looking thing. They seem to have a very low threshold for what is considered art. But it's still... So this is surprising me.

The snake is starting like scathing attacks on Neanderthal art. Well, this is surprising. I just love where this snake is starting like scathing attacks on Neanderthal art. Well, this is surprising me that it's like, were Neanderthals making art? And then it just looks kind of like a whittled down, I don't know, something or other. But Neanderthals, I think one thing that we overlook a lot when we think about Neanderthals is that the reason that we survived and they didn't is that we were the crueler version like we yeah we yeah we killed them off like we you know used our big-ass brains to kill them off and like they were potentially more peaceful and less

likely to like scheme and come up and like, you know, have zero sum outcomes with, with regards to resources. And so homo sapiens killed them off. Like that's one of the main theories, one of the prevailing theories these days. But when we think Neanderthals, we're thinking like big,

mean, dumb, like violent. And it's like, no, they were actually more peaceful than us. That's nice.

Love that legacy. We're here because we kill the weaker ones. Anyway. So yeah, that's where my brain was going last night. I was like, what? Are Neanderthals? Are they people? I don't know but yes and they were

like people chill version yeah exactly and yeah i just like jack you just start a podcast you're just you're you're doing just critiquing neanderthal art the critique of i've just this new excavated king scallop shell from cueva and ton spain from the neanderthals i'm looking at decorative shell this just looks like a broken fucking shell folks this isn't art that like as somebody i'm coming from a place of somebody who has to look at five-year-old and three-year-olds art and come up with like value be like wow that's really great and like this would be one of the ones that i would be like let's move past that one and like move on to the next piece of art that you created because this just looks like some like it could have happened accidentally wait do you have to

like struggle to come up with nice things to say about your kids art no i just stopped trying a long time ago i always get excited when I see your kid art. I'm like, look at you! You're doing it! I do. I'm like the most doting split. You start massaging your temples when you see your like... Oh, Jesus Christ.

I'm like, Jack, are you a bad dad? Are you like a terrible father? Are you a fucked up dad? No. No? I have kids with fucked up dad? No. No? I have kids with fucked up art skills, though. We just discovered my three-year-old is a lefty, like me and my wife. Oh.

So that's exciting news. Wait, what's the point where you figure out, like, what they eat with? Well, my mom was like, oh, I could have told you that like a year and a half ago. But it's what they draw with, what they eat with but also like what when he's like sleeping what thumb he sucks and stuff like that and what he's using to do those sorts of things do you suck the dominant thumb or the non-dominant thumb so it's weird i suck my left thumb but my wife no i'm just me and my wife split my left thumb you you suck the you suck the dominant thumb and that's actually uh how they know that handedness is something that's

not socially proscribed and is actually something that like starts in utero because left-handed babies will suck their left thumb in utero wow okay yeah so shout out to learning lefties either of you guys lefties no nope my mom is nice i just grew up always being like hey you gotta sit on this side of the table because my nice hand is gonna keep jab we're gonna keep bumping elbows right that's like the one thing i that's my one you know prevailing spirit experience with a left-handed person what is something you think is overrated something i think over is overrated is fireworks it's been a week plus since the fourth of july and i'm still traumatized like i just hate fireworks

i don't get it and like i think that there's value in ephemeral forms of entertainment like it's not that I'm like, Oh, fireworks disappear. What's the point? And then you take pictures of them and nobody looks at them. Like this is very Neanderthal take on our modern fireworks. Where does it go?

I just think that they're scary and loud and not worth the like small ounce of like enjoyment. I think there are cooler things that we probably have the technology, like the things that they do with drones in the sky. And I feel like it's probably better for the environment. Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't catch things on fire. Like if you want to look at pretty lights in the sky, there are ways to do it that aren't terrifying. It's called mushrooms, y'all.

You don't even need fireworks. Just wave your hand in front of your face it's a party but i think i don't like little shits setting off fucking bang bangs in my neighborhood like no m80s and shit because i have there's some badasses where i live apparently because it sounded like people were setting off dynamite and i'm like that's not even a firework. You know what I mean? Like sometimes you see stuff go up and people do their little tiny little sky banger rings or whatever they're called. But when people just set off like explosives, like it's so bad for like my pets and stuff. Like I came home early on the 4th of July and I just blasted the gap band

throughout my house because I'm like, Charlie Wilson's voice can neutralize the sounds of explosions for my pets and that's all I had to do but I do love a good like professional firework show I think that could be just because in Japan they're like huge and like I grew up every summer always seeing like massive fireworks displays but at the local like sparklers are cool you know I mean those little snake things are cool yeah massive like hurricane when i go to like disneyland i'm like yeah pretty but also they're doing that every night i feel so bad for the people of anaheim like can you imagine yeah yeah that's a good point i wonder if they have like a clear zone where like within this range like people shouldn't like have residences because yeah that

would that would be a lot of i guess sounds of joy but it would also just be a lot of uh a lot of screaming a lot of kids crying a lot of fireworks i don't think anyone shares a wall though with like Disney. We're like, hey! Hey! Stop it over there! Just in the background, it's a world of lamp or a world of tears when you're trying to make mac and cheese. How did we end up sharing

a wall with the it's a small world ride? Yeah, I feel like there's something very basic in humans that, like, they needed to get out these fireworks, man, this year. Like, we didn't have it last year. Oh, no, I had it last year. There was just something that, yeah, that's true. We did have them, like, for months.

But there wasn't, like, the massive show. Yeah. But there wasn't like a massive show. Yeah. And I, I've, I was saying on the show, it sounded like a bowl of rice krispies for three straight hours in mine and my neighborhood,

just like that much popping and popping and popping like multiple every second for like three hours straight. Oh yeah. It was wild. But I mean, yeah, you always hear about these horrible accidents. There's always like there's an NHL goalie who got hit with one and died.

Yeah. I didn't even know that was possible. I think he apparently like he was like it was like a mortar tube type thing. And I think it hit him in the chest or something. Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah. It's like, look, I was a little badass pyromaniac, but I've seen enough. think it hit him in the chest or something yeah oh no yeah it's that's my uh-uh like i'm look i

was a little badass pyromaniac but there i've seen enough i've had enough near terrible accidents to be like there's certain things like if you're not a professional pyrotechnician leave it alone please yeah for your own sake yeah for sure and even professionals screw up i mean do you guys remember the maybe you don't because i don't think either of you have lived in Rhode Island, but the station fire in Rhode Island, there was this band. I can't remember what they were called. It was like white something. struggling to get out of the club after the pyrotechnics went off in a wrong and unsafe way. And I'm just like, it's not worth it for me. Yeah. Great white. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. I would agree. But I also feel like it's one of those things that will just never, never get past for some reason. Oh, no, for sure not. But I think that they are overrated.

Every now and then, sure. Do we need them multiple times a year at multiple holidays with multiple places doing them? I don't know. Not for me. Yeah. It's not good for people who have dogs. It's not good for war veterans. It's not good for all sorts of people. Like people who go to sleep early. No one wants to suddenly hear just a huge boom out their window.

Especially not when, again, you're being like, I'm going to a fireworks display. one wants to suddenly hear like a just a huge boom out their window like it's just not especially not when again you're being like i'm going to a fireworks display therefore i will be looking at the source of the sounds right just trying to sleep and watch the challenge on paramount plus and have things going off in your head disrupting your viewing time shout out to paramount plus does allow you to envision what it would be like if there was a massive war in your town. Because it's just like the soundtrack sounds very

similar, I think. There's some visualization exercises I don't need to do. What is something you think is underrated, Karama? I'm gonna say it's a two-way tie between therapy and rabbits. I mentioned to you earlier off mic that I just found out that I'm allergic to rabbits and that like made me so sad. Like it was an indescribable loss that I was like, wow, I don't know when I'm going to hold a rabbit

next and if it will be a joy to me because every time I see a rabbit, instantly I'm happier, if it will be a joy to me because every time I see a rabbit instantly, I'm happier, instantly happier. I, we have wild rabbits out here in the Coachella Valley. So sometimes I'll just be like chilling in my room and I look out the window and there's a rabbit and I'm just like best day ever. And I just go funny. And then I'm happy. I agree. There's something, I don't know if it's because like from childhood, like rabbits have always we've never seen them as being like vicious animals unless you watch the Life of Brian or is it the Holy Grail? Holy Grail. Yeah. Yeah. Holy Grail. And that was I think the only time I can really think of me seeing a rabbit being like like when I was younger and every other time they're like whimsical. And when we did a live show out in Minneapolis, like in in the beginning of 2020 i didn't know that there

was just bunnies everywhere and so like we were in the snow and like in the alleys they're just hippity hoppitying around and i was like i couldn't contain my sort of childlike joy of unseen i'm like hey man i think there's rabbits on the loose and someone's like no no this is this is what's this is part of the that's what we have instead of rats i'm like oh buddy rabbits cool yeah yeah and shout out to therapy too good thing you didn't find out you were uh allergic to therapy i guess that's just not the two things no no no i skipped therapy for one week and i was just a rack i was like no i need it i need to talk to somebody i can't hold everything it's yeah it's again, I tell I'm such a I preach the gospel of therapy as much as I can to friends and family, because honestly, I'm someone who has thought themselves very emotionally intelligent.

And I've spent a lot of time reading a lot of psychology books and self-help books. But those truly only get you to a certain point, like without someone who is trained to help you navigate sort of your own patterns and proclivities and things like that. You won't arrive at a place to have that true level of self-awareness where you can begin to see like, oh, when when I'm stressed and these kinds of things happen, I typically go down this path where now you can start seeing things and sort of really understanding yourself rather than being caught in a loop of being like, why am I stressed out? Or like beating yourself up for being angsty or depressed or whatever and truly understanding yourself. So you can then be like how you really I think the biggest thing for me being in therapy has been, you know, you'll have a friend who like might be telling you something and tell you about what they're going through. And they're kind of being they're like beating themselves up and you're like, oh, come on, don't do that. And then you're able to be like because of this, this, this and this. But you're unable to do that for yourself.

You know what I mean? Like you'll have the exact same monologue or inner monologue that is almost word for word with someone who isn't. You said and you were able to have the wherewithal to soothe them, make them understand what's going on. And it's not bad. to have the wherewithal to soothe them, make them understand what's going on. And it's not bad. But with therapy, like I'm able to actually walk myself through that as I would for someone else. And I think that's really, that's like when you start feeling the good vibes.

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What are you going to do? Bankrupt your business because your drone workers are fucking around enjoying their families yeah i mean like a lot of countries have experimented with this and yeah japan is like trying to propose it officially as spain like they're really trying to have lengthy trials to you know fundamentally shift how we understand work um and also just understanding like what its effects are so in iceland they had one of the like probably at this point, the most comprehensive trial experiment in the world ran from 2015 to 2019 across different industries to truly understand like what what happens if we take people from going five days a week to four days a week and same hours a day, eight hour day, but just four of them now, or maybe 36 hour work week, but give them three days where they're not working and don't, and don't reduce their pay. Here we go. Quote, workers reported experiencing better health and less stress and burnout, and they had more time to spend with their families or on leisure activities,

productivity and service provision either remained at similar levels or improved in the majority of workplaces. Huh? So that's like, yeah, it's wonderful to hear. The thing I want to say to all of our American listeners is the big difference is that in Scandinavia,

the trade unions are stronger than fucking Bruce Banner when he's pissed off. They are they don't fuck around and they are able to actually, you know, use their collective might to work for better outcomes for laborers. And this is the other thing is we also have a very, you know, very capitalistically worshiping society. And on top of that, we have, you know, big business always at war with organized labor and a Supreme Court that doesn't care about anything. So we have a few

things that we'd have to possibly overcome. Plus, the government invested massively in this program because as they see it, this is about fundamentally improving the lives of all of their citizens. What a concept. That's not the that's not the government's job. Come on. Get out of here. Yeah. In America, instead of having, you know, protecting the rights of the laborers, we create somebody who is the richest man on earth and becomes a famous celebrity by taking advantage of the fact that America doesn't have good representation for their workers and that he can make them not be able to go to the bathroom when they want to. Are you talking about CEO, entrepreneur, born in 1964, Jeffrey Bezos? Yeah. So our way is that we just create celebrities and we root for them for some reason instead of, you know, rooting for working for better lives for ourselves.

We create people who can go to space because they're so rich. Yeah. When it should be like Game of Thrones, like Cersei with the haircut, ringing the shame bell, like marching billionaires through the street. Be like, let's go, Jeff. Shame. Be like, oh, you know that would be very cathartic and then we distribute all this redistribute all of his wealth but it's kind of like what we were talking about with the with the uh economists on last week's kind of format breaking episode there's a rabbit outside my window i just needed to tell you guys that i'm so excited it just it hopped away as soon as i pointed at it it was just like here for a brief

not a long time sorry continue but it's it feels like it's such a cellular thing like the just it's so down to the american psyche and the fact that america loves an individual and hates a collective that like they they will do something as stupid as like let somebody become the richest person in the history of the planet and start thinking about how they're going to get them and their family off the planet Earth once they ruin it. And we'll root for that and read headlines about that and read news about that and just won't won't even let people unionize like who worked for that person. Won't even let people unionize like who worked for that person. Yeah, it's it's I don't know what else what the battle is going to look like in the United States. But I mean, I think this is what this does. And like the sort of the foothold that a lot of countries are finding themselves gaining, or at least people who are interested in these four hour work weeks is that it's really helping to just change the narrative around what it means to like work and rather than it feeling like a natural part

of life because truly we're we're not you know this we're not the way society's set up it's everything feels completely unnatural like it's purely to survive is why people are working and i think by having like these experiments to sort of change around what it means, like depending on certain types of industries and things like that, it's clear that if we work less without having wages cut, we're happier. But I think in this country too, you see employers clearly don't want that to gain too much traction because we have so much back to normal messaging that we're being bombarded with constantly. And it completely ignores the fact that all of these people passed away,

that most of us know someone who has passed away, that most of us were dealing with our own shit from everything that's happened in the pandemic. So to start like shoveling this like back to normal stuff is part and parcel to also be like, we can't let these people get in any ideas on how to shift things because the longer they're not in the slog or the grind of like this 40 hour or 50 hour, 80 hour work week, you know, then they're going to, then ideas begin to sprout and, you know, movements can tend to gain momentum. So it's, it's, it's a tough road. Well, and the thing about the back to normal messaging is that a lot of companies prior to COVID did not offer work from home options for people with disabilities. They just didn't. They were like, oh, it's too hard. We can't do it.

And then in a week switched to it when it was like, oh, we don't want to die. We don't want to have bad things happen to us. And this back to normal thing is making it so that people who were finally able to work from home and do remote work because of their disabilities when they hadn't been able to do that before are kind of shit out of luck. And it's just really concerning to see that we're not thinking of things holistically. We're not looking at the big picture. How has this been better for people?

And there are obviously some industries where it is much harder to work from home. Like I was just working on a TV show. It's not easy to do a TV show when everybody's working from home. Is it possible? Absolutely. Except with the actors. That's the part where it gets kind of tricky. But I mean, they made that show on NBC connecting where all the actors were in their houses. Right. So I mean, there's a lot that can be done. And that was

specifically about COVID and about like connecting with people through computer screens and all of that. So that was a special situation. But I think that back to normal is really short-sighted and I think looking more yeah it is violent yeah absolutely looking more at these four-day work week options shoot I'm down for a three-day work week I just feel like we define ourselves too much by work so like a couple years ago I stopped asking people what they do like oh what is your job when I meet them because it's like that doesn't matter and like half of my friends i don't understand or know what their jobs are but i know who they are right right it's more like what are you into that's what i like to ask like what you into yeah what's your thing is my yeah question they're like oh i like to play you know banjo or whatever

and and do and surf and stuff i'm like okay that see, see, I can get more of an idea than that than being like, I work for HR at Best Buy. Yeah, exactly. The idea that this is like almost, like it's not a thing where you subtract hours from people's work week and you subtract the hours of productivity. It's more of a thing where you subtract hours, but then productivity either stays the same or goes up because they are just happier and better versions of themselves

and more rested. And there's just overall a higher morale. It's very counterintuitive. It's it's almost like you're adding by subtracting. And I'm just hoping that the business world can kind of get their mind around that because it does. It seems like just overall better for health, better for probably everything. If you're if you you have more well-rested, happier employees. I mean, you go to any country where there's some semblance of real, you know, robust social safety nets or people's needs are provided. The vibe is so different. Like when you go to a country like that,

I remember you go to like the first time I went to Scandinavia, I was like, the fuck? They're just happy. They're just happy. Motherfuckers are frolicking in a park and shit like the fuck is this and i'm like at first i had to realize i'm like oh man i'm like this fucked up burnt out city rat from the u.s and i'm looking at like a culture where people at the very least know well if i want to get an education that's that's an option for me if i need medical care that's an option for me. If I need medical care, that's an option for me. If I need to take care of my children or an ailing

loved one, that's an option for me. Right. And when you see those things, people like when they're unburdened with those things, or they're not even part of their concept of what life is, it makes for very just jovial people, very kind people like even when you go to you know to places where seemingly in the u.s you'd like well fast food or retail or whatever like it's it's just a it's a hard job to do and it's underpaid and you go to places where people are paid like a an actual living wage it's like they were smiling and shit like they said they apologized because they didn't put the extra onions on i don't know what to say but yeah this is again it's really something to just see how different

vibrationally people are when so many of these things are off of their plate there's something different about the energy when your government when the ruling order of the land is not we're willing to starve you to death in order to keep things moving around here. Yeah. I saw this TikTok that shook me to my core. There was this Australian woman and she was showing how her kids' daycare sends the kids home with dinner for the adults.

And I was like, I don't understand what this is. I don't understand what's happening. And they don't pay extra. It's part of like the 60 Australian dollars that they pay a day for daycare. And I'm like, that's first of all, that daycare there seems affordable and reasonable. And then you get food, like they feed your kids. They send the kids home with a plate for you yes what a good plate it looked like good food it did not look like gross cafeteria food like yeah it wasn't fire i love square pizza but it's gross yeah yeah i mean i love square that's all it's all you know on context but yeah that's yeah every time I see things like that I mean it's energizing

because I'm like well fuck I mean some places are doing it humanely or you see like what paternity leave or parental leave is for people and you're like I'm sorry how many months is it now to start your family it's like they want

you to win okay almost family it's like they want you to they want you to win okay okay yeah almost yeah almost that makes so much sense to me as just the the act of like feeding your kid is is so many hours you know right like just planning even if you order out it's like a lot of planning and going to pick it up and yeah versus like hey i'm fed hi dad here's your dinner you're like yeah yeah what is that right it's like hi i've come back with a plate full of food for you and and marijuana because you know it's tough out here i'm like what the fuck daycare is this thank you the woman said that there were families that did not take that option and i'm like what's wrong with them like are you kidding me i don't even know what they have you think they're like scoffing at it or they're like

thank you so much we we'll be fine without that i'm like well if the first one's good i'm like this is easy yeah take sometimes without like two working, so one parent stays home and they're like, we'll just cook up our food for ourselves or something. Right, right. Ozzy's Ike Gang, if you know about these daycare meals, send us a review.

What's usually coming with that? Not to say that it's the fine dining, but shit, I like food. Anyone from another country if you if there's something that your government like a nice perk that like your government or like workplace or whatever it is provides for you that americans couldn't couldn't possibly imagine hit us up with that too i'm curious about health care though though. Like, we know. We know. We get it.

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on school boards which is really worrying yeah we talked about that at a recent like q convention or whatever that's what the big thing was like that's what we have to do and ever since that q account went dark all of the these followers have been in limbo some people have just been like dude this, this was so fucking stupid. Like the storm is never coming. And other people are really trying to keep their hope alive. And those that are still, you know,

invested in this conspiracy theory, you know, against satanic Democrats, who, you know, they've adopted a new tactic. Like you're saying, they're running for school board. And Mike Flynn told them, he said, quote, local action equals national impact. Take responsibility for your school committees or boards. Get involved in the education of our children. Run for local, state and or federal office. No more excuses. So now they what they're doing is because they

can no longer wait for whatever Q was promising. They're just marching forward with this idea of like, well, then we need to save this country. We will begin to go into the places where children are being educated. We can begin to define what books need to be read, what isn't going to be taught or what will be taught and really start throwing their weight around ideologically. And they also have realized they like you're saying they got it. They have to stop claiming QAnon. Right. So this this expert who writes about him said, quote, if you identify as QAnon, people look at you like you're crazy. But if you passionately talk about how we need to be saving children and protecting them from trafficking, then you come off as a compassionate person who really cares about the welfare of children. You're no longer one of those crazy cult people who thinks Hillary Clinton is trafficking kids in a tunnel under Central Park. in a tunnel under Central Park. And in Michigan, there were students who were demanding that a school member resign

because she was so up in Q world and her like Twitter was just straight Q stuff. And she refused to resign. And then when the press asked her about, you know, like what's going on? And like, you know, do you follow QAnon? She said, quote, there's no such thing as QAnon. Wow.

So they're doing this like winky shit, you know, and trying to get in and these sort of off year, low turnout, local elections because no one's watching. And those are easy ways to get in and get a foothold. But it's it's it's really wild. I mean, even though these people are very easy to spot because eventually they'll start saying some shit that is not about education. Then you can begin like, oh, okay, I think I know who you are. But they're being very strategic in acting than maybe in playing dumb if you start talking about QAnon. And so the thing that they're putting forward is their opposition to child trafficking, which seems like, yes, okay, that's something that we all can get behind. trafficking, which seems like, yes, okay, that's something that we all can get behind. Except the way they picture child trafficking and describe it when they're talking about saving our children

is they're picturing these groups sneaking into homes, usually probably they think Democrat groups, but sneaking into homes and kidnapping their children from their suburban beds and selling them to be distributed in furniture ordered online or whatever. But so it's like built on the satanic panic of the 80s, the stranger danger panic in like starting in the 70s and going into the 80s and that's still around today, which is even though crime has dropped precipitously since like the 50s, 60s, 70s, we still think that children are constantly in danger in our communities because of like how the local news has turned into just a litany of stories about kidnappings and children being missing. And the truth is that child

trafficking is most often caused by poverty, underrepresented communities, the child welfare system being underfunded and broken, drug abuse, poor mental health support, and most importantly, a labyrinthine immigration system that, and I can't stress this enough, separates children from their fucking parents at the border and doesn't reconnect them. Like, right. So it's just like all these systemic problems that their chosen party loves to underfund or, you know, just deconstruct is what is fueling the problem that they're quote-unquote like trying to fight but it like doesn't their actual like politics them having positions on school boards

or any decision-making body will actually lead to increased child trafficking just because they are fucking up those systems that cause child trafficking. Yeah. It's, it's, it's mind blowing. And especially when like a lot of people who are truly like, you know, active in the space for advocating for victims of child trafficking, they're like,

please, you're doing this all wrong. If you really give a fuck, come talk to us. Like we would love. Yeah, exactly. And that's where you realize it's like everything,

right. Where a lot of these kind of conservative conspiracies and things, it's never about what the fuck they're talking about. It's always a battle against progress. That's all it is. And this one is just, this has been taken up by more people who have, that hook is a little more attractive to them than like, whatever. If it's, you know, the government's going to take your guns. There's that group of people who really just don't like that. They're seeing this, the face america change and look more diverse and in the

same way then granted there's all kinds of diverse q followers but at the end of the day if you when you really start reading into it it'll always end up in some kind of george soros anti-semitic trope some kind of like blM is like making up everything to distract us from, you know, and it's all, all roads are pointing back to just maintaining the status quo because one of their most vocal people in like this new sort of, you know, second wave QAnon or third wave QAnon, I don't know, I don't know what wave they're on yet, but, you know, he's been out here saying the shit that you just hear about like how most conservatives really want to you know sort of paint what's happening in culture what

they'll say is that their kids are being carried away this is from this guy uh his name's drake wurtz is his name he says uh they're being carried away through our education system through the woke ideology that's infiltrated professional sports through sexual grooming and pedophilia that's apparent in the entertainment industry we need to we need to run for precinct committees we need to run for city council run for school board and primary the rhinos in this room and all that to say is right we get it you're looking at america changing very quickly and you're and you're accusing republicans who aren't going like full force being like put brown people into camps uh that they're now republicans in name only so it's a very you know this is this this is the fucking foolish box that has been opened and

you know this is now looking like something that could affect every single person now if this campaign to infiltrate local government is successful. So that's why I also suggest people, you know, look for holding office locally, you know, see if you can get involved in your own community, because they're damn sure are people who have the worst ideas trying to run your life at some point. So it's so frustrating because a lot of those people who have these very broken ideas of what the systems are and what the system should be. And who are like, oh, yeah, run for office. They have a lot of inherited wealth that enables them to do that effectively, whereas the people who are trying to shift the system are still trapped by it and are less able to do things like run for office. So it's just like

really infuriating. Grassroots organizing is so important. Make sure you know who's running down ballot in your elections and make sure you support people whose ideologies are the same as yours. And really don't just look at parties. Look at actual platforms, because just because someone says they're in your party doesn't mean that they have the same platform as you. No, not at all. And I think it's also important to realize, like, unfortunately, like middle class, upper middle class, college educated people, especially white people, are not going to be the same kinds of agents of change and a representative level that working class people would be if they had access to these levers. levers because people are looking at it from completely different experiences. Not to say there's no empathy, but just if you look at what motivates people, the people who are going to be

able to bring as like the real kind of to articulate a lot of the things that really need to change are the people that are living day to day under the same stressors. And yeah, that's why, again, it's really important. Again, I know it's hard because shit, you could get blown out by some golf course, country club owning person's kid who wants to run for city council or local with neighbor precinct leader or whatever. But at the same time, you do see these small pockets where, you know, people who are really dedicated are able to find this of grassroots support to actually make a, you know, a formidable bid for office.

of grassroots support to actually make a you know a formidable bid for office but yeah it's it's just a lot to to think about of at every level where you need motion and and some radical change you have people there who don't have the imagination to do it so if it's brought to them they're like i don't know this is this that's not how we do anything here and you know they also get a lot of traction because they're operating through fear like i am a woman and i exist on the internet and i see a lot of like female spaces and a lot of fear mongering about getting trafficked in those female spaces and it's always like this is the new tactic that people are using in target parking lots and it's always a target parking lot apparently it never happens like a kohl's parking lot so shop lot so shopping goals if you're trying not to get traffic right all the coals it's a psyop from coals to be like no what we're gonna do is see this idea that

shit happens in a target parking lot and then they're gonna come they're gonna get their coals cash no but seriously it's always like at least once a week, I see a post in Facebook groups that I'm in for women. And I know I'm old. I'm still on Facebook, but I like it. Sue me. But it's always like if you see a person who asks you this question about if you've seen where they have the Oreos, then they're going to kidnap you. And I'm like, or they're just somebody looking for Oreos and you are paranoid. Or like, like there are all these different signs and signals

and this is the new way and this is the new way. And at first when I started seeing them, I was like scared. I was genuinely scared. And then I started doing more research and it's like, no, it is still that satanic panic, stranger danger, like QAnon pipeline. It's all the same stuff.

And they're just trying to erase the fact that most trafficking happens from people that you already know and that you've built relationships with. And it's not about this stranger in like a cloak who's usually brown coming to get you and steal you away from your loving suburban family. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. as frequent as it is. And they, when they try to correct the Q people online, I get accused of, you know, being part of the problem or,

you know, trying to be elites. Yeah. Being part of the coverup to, so that, I mean, I can't imagine how frustrating that is, but all right.

Well, get involved in your local politics. Even if it's not you, find a person who you. Or be aware at the very least. Don't get blindsided by not knowing who's trying to make decisions in your community. Yeah, absolutely. Man, it's so easy to, you know, because we have so much focus on our media on the federal level and things like that. But shit, when you when you really look at

how your own cities run, you'll either be like really impressed and you're like, oh, wow, like I'm like, wow, this is great. Or you might be horrified and then you might realize, OK, so rather than when the next election comes up, I just don't go D or whatever party I'm voting for and realize this person is actually against addressing homelessness aggressively. So, no, I don't care how long you've been there. That's because we need people now. We're looking at it differently, not here to take up for the, you know, Caruso real estate group and follow the money.

Because, like, I found it very suspicious when Uber and Lyft and DoorDash and all those people were like, we don't have money to pay our employees but then funneled all of their money into that campaign about we don't have money to pay our employees so make it so they're independent contractors please and it's garbage and costs have gone up and they don't have protections like there are not protections against reporting sexual assault the same way that there would be were they employees they're they just aren't there yeah yeah now i find myself even less i'm like fuck it i'll drive because i'm part of me is like i used to just you know would like tip to offset you know like what because i know for a lot of the time like barely cover your gas if people aren't tipping you

correctly but now like when you see like what they're caught because a lot of people have just stopped doing it because on like the math just doesn't work for them. Like, no, these are not – I'm in the red when I drive for Uber. So how does that work for me? And I think, yeah, like, I'm like, well, you know, I'll start driving. Take a cab if I have to. But you'd hope that, you know, as Uber and stuff. Public transit would be great if that were a better option in oh yeah i mean you know

eventually eventually eventually i mean it i i my friend came over on fourth of july and was like when he was leaving he was like oh i need to like i'm gonna have to take the bus because the fucking uber rates were they they knew how many people needed uber that day and so they were just crazy but you know he takes the bus people take the bus in la oh no i'm not i'm not saying that at all but i'm saying it's tough though like the way it's set up though like it's inefficient and yeah it ends up taking away hours in the day for people who if they had a car like you know they wouldn't be spending like a third of their life on public transit because of the way things set up and people

in certain neighborhoods absolutely rejecting the concept of public transit going through where they live. Yeah. All right. Let's talk streaming ratings real quick. So, you know, this weekly report that Nielsen is dropping is from a month ago, but it recently came out with a report that said Sweet Tooth. I don't know if you guys remember that Netflix series where it's a half-child, half-deer. I'm sorry, what? I'm sorry, what?

It's based on a DC comic that has been around for a little while, I guess. But it was the number one thing. But it also has like eight episodes. And this whole thing is based on number of minutes watched. So when you take that into account, the top things that were watched this week were Raya and the Last Dragon on Disney+, which I think just went from costing money to not costing money a month ago. Okay.

And Loki. And Loki comes out one episode at a time. So with one episode available, it was watched, you know. episode available it was watched you know like if you divide the number of minutes by number of episodes like those one-off movies were watched like four and five times as much as like some of these streaming shows which you can't you can't like necessarily make do that math i'm sure people were only like watching one episode of Sweet Tooth or whatever some of the time. Can we go back to that really quick? What is the premise?

It's a half-boy deer or half-human, half-deer. I just Googled it. Which half? And it looks like a child who has fun little deer ears and antlers, but the rest is just like a human body. Oh, like Sugar sugar we're going down

oh my god i'm there yeah um but like what what are the ratios you know but i guess sure we're going down he didn't have the yeah human ears right the uh sugar we're going down guy no going down swinging. The boyfriend, like the whole conceited the video was that the dad hated the boyfriend because he had the antlers and the stuff on stuff. And then it turned out that the dad had like deer hind legs or something. And that's why it was like he was self-hating. Yeah. I don't know why I still have that in my spirit.

But yeah, so he had ears and antlers, I think. Loaded God complex, cock it and pull it. Let's get down. But the whole thing with this, I'm curious, like if you're going to be a hybrid, this is where I get this when I when I because the second you said half deer, half human, I pictured a centaur. Right. body do we collectively the three of us do we believe if you are a dual species hybrid what's the ratio of uh features appendages body style that you need to have that it doesn't because this just seems like like a kid with antlers you know i'm not i'm not really feeling the whole like i don't know if his feet are hooves or what but i'm curious if you feel if you're as neurotic

as i am and being like there are not enough deer features. This is merely a child with antlers. Right. And I don't know why I'm thinking that. I think if you look at a Punnett square, like it depends on a lot of chance in terms of genetics. And there's like, sure. OK, I feel like. I don't know, it's kind of I don, I'm not comparing mixed race people to animals.

I just want to be very clear on that. But with mixed race people, there are people who are siblings who look completely different, but they have the same quote unquote percentage of their parents' DNA. So I'm wondering in this, if you can have somebody who is part deer and like the same level of parts although anna has said that it's about a disease where people start having half animal kids and then they want to exterminate them all because they don't get it so i don't think it's genetics now that i'm looking at that um so some kind of global ailment okay that makes sense that makes sense but that would be cool like this is my sister like that's a deer and you're like fuck you man don't be so rigid are you serious right

bojack horseman kind of delves into that where they have human animal relationships and then there will be like a deer child and a human child and their siblings yeah sorry what were we saying about streaming so well barry barry diller came out and was like, movie industry, as we know it, is dead because, like, people aren't, like, they're not doing the same, like, huge marketing campaigns. And, again, it was an interview with NPR where he, I have to believe, was using a body double who was in an old man mask, just based on the picture. People can go look at it themselves but like i mean that's true insofar as like all industries and all things are constantly evolving and the version of them that existed yesterday is dead today but like i still think movies have more cultural like juice in terms of like how much of a mind share and like how much of the images that we have in our unconscious minds like they are contributing to over over streaming content and over really anything else. Like when you look at like even those streaming movies that, you know, dominated this week, Raya and Loki isn't a movie, but it was it was one episode at a time.

And Loki isn't a movie, but it was it was one episode at a time. Like they are we're looking at like nine million people watching them this week and like F9 has been watched by 50 million people. So it's a it's like the the movies that are that a lot of people go see are still like being like injected into the global shared consciousness. Like I think more than really anything else yeah i mean i think until like the act of going to a theater is fully done that's when i think the industry has a problem because there's just going to a movie is just still a very enjoyable experience for the most part and because of that yeah i think until that shifts in some fundamental way where people like dude we don't fucking need movie theaters anymore because our i don't know we were able to wear oculus headsets that it makes everything imax or

projection technology changes such where the you know the screens are watching but i think there's just something too about it's like a real low energy concert going to a movie yeah like you're there other people are like yeah they must fuck with it too if they're here so whatever let's watch this we'll laugh and then i'll or cry or whatever and then we leave and you kind of have that sense of being around people but yeah i don't know barry diller we'll just stick to being a old guy i feel like movies we're still going to want to have that experience and probably more now that we've been deprived of like collective human experiences but i think that the movie industry as it exists should change i don't think it should die i think it should change a lot and like i think that more movies should be accessible like there are a lot of movie theaters

that don't give great caption options. I wish that at least two showings every day. Yeah. I wish at least two showings every day, captions on the screen. Like I would go to those showings and I am a hearing person, but people think that good acting is whispering. I don't know when that happened, but people are like, I have something to tell you. It's true. I know the truth. Like, no, I can't hear you. I'm sorry. It was when Lost in Translation got away with, like, the big ending line being whispered and we couldn't hear it. And people were like, oh, shit, it's artistic.

Is that how that movie ends? I've never seen Lost in Translation. Yeah, there's like a big whispered moment where we don't know what he says. Yeah, I'm not watching that movie. No whispering. Whoa. Yeah. translation yeah there's like a big whispered moment where we don't know what he says yeah i'm not watching that movie no whispering yeah but no it's like if you make things accessible to more people more people will do the thing and i don't know where that's getting lost in translation for the people who are in charge um but yeah i think that there was something really powerful about seeing like trolls world tour do really well both uh do really do really well with streaming

because like taking kids to the movies is i'm sure you know jack a true hassle it's like it it's it's an adventure and if you can watch a movie with your kids at home and you can watch it again and again and again because the kids are going to watch it again and again and again and it's more financially accessible then that's going to be great and they're just there needs to be a hybrid model where people aren't thinking about the way that we've been doing it and thinking about how we can push things forward and innovate make movies better for more people yeah i think yeah it's things things i that i was just just gonna say if you like watching movies over and over again with the kids you guys should check out divx what's divx oh man it's a dvd

technology rather than renting the most expensive dvds from your home you can buy never mind y'all remember divx that stupid ass pay-per-view dvd thing you had to hook your dvd player to a phone line oh my god never mind no for the real tech lames out there i was just about to google it pay-per-view DVD thing. You had to hook your DVD player to a phone line. Oh my God. Never mind. No. For the real tech lames out there. I was just about to Google it and be like, oh shit, I got to get into it.

No, it was a thing because a DVD would be like 30 bucks or whatever in the early days. They were like, buy a Divix and then like every time

you want to watch it, it's only like two bucks. And then over time, you can just watch it and not have to pay for buying the Matrix over time you can just watch it and not have to pay for buying the matrix on dvd you just rent it but people are like i'm gonna watch the matrix 15 times it's not worth it for me they're like how does this work and like it has to be in a phone line say yeah just dial in and then we'll charge you and they're like this is a it didn't last for

more than two seconds but but to uh barry diller's point though like something that felt very different to me and new was so this movie the tomorrow war came out on amazon last weekend with chris pratt pratt yeah america's least favorite chris well apparently not because so i was just based on the marketing like there there was marketing, but it didn't seem like anybody was really talking about it, that it was trending that many places. Mike Mitchell from Doughboys is in it, so I heard him talk about it a lot. And Sam Richardson's in it. It's the sort of thing that I should have kind of been into, but the marketing didn't do it for me. It just seemed like a vague action movie. didn't do it for me it just seemed like a vague action movie and but it was only released on amazon prime and it apparently was like very successful on amazon prime which i was i did

not see coming just based on like it seemed like the sort of thing that was going to flop if it had been in theaters but for whatever reason amazon prime is saying that it's like broke all their records and everybody watched it. Broke their records though? Who's watching other things on Amazon Prime? Who's watching a ton of movies on Amazon Prime? Not to shade them. I don't know

anybody who's seen this movie which doesn't mean anything because I'm in my own little liberal bubble. Very interesting to hear that. Yeah. It was very popular internationally, which I think a lot of action movies tend to be. And to your point, the number one movie in the history of Amazon Prime to that point.

So the records it was breaking were from Coming to America 2. So that's not like that's a movie that probably would have been successful were we not in the midst of a global pandemic but it wouldn't have been like a holds the record for the box office in a giving year type thing right i heard that it's full copaganda from our producer anna, the Tomorrow, what's the movie? I can't even remember the name of the movie. Tomorrow War? Is that it? The Tomorrow War. Yeah, it's a bad name.

It used to be called The Ghost Draft, and then it was called The Tomorrow War, and they're all bad. Apparently, it's full copaganda, according to Ana Hosnia. But yeah, it's got a really good cast of comedians, like Sam Richardson, Mary Lynn Reischopf, and Mike Mitchell.

So, hey, shout out to cops. Like Sam Richardson, Mary Lynn Reischop, and Mike Mitchell. So, hey, shout out to cops. Well, Karama, it has been such a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you and follow you? People can follow me at KaramaDrama on Twitter and Instagram. And people can find me. I was in a web series called Tricicycles that just came out this summer. Check it out on,

I think it's tricycles show.com and check out my episode of iCarly. That's going to air on July 22nd. Oh, Yeah. Congratulations again. Yeah. Is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Is there? Yes.

America's favorite auntie, Dionne Warwick, tweeted yesterday about how she's been learning about memes. But she spelled it capital M-E, capital M-E. So I think she's calling them memes, which just thrills me. So she said, I'm trying to learn about memes. I want to make one on my own with this photo what would you create and then it's a picture of this dog holding a ball that looks like it's from a ball pit just like a yellow dog and it just makes me so happy and the way that like people are responding is very sweet and wholesome and everybody's like yeah auntie dion i'll help you this is a meme i would make this is a meme i would make and i just think we should all treat each other on the internet the

same way we treat dion warwick on the internet yeah for sure uh unfortunately it's easier said than done oh yeah for sure miles where can people find you what's a tweet you've been enjoying find me twitter instagram at miles of gray and also the other show for 20 day fiance. Check that one out. Twitch dot TV slash for 20 day fiance. If you like 90 day fiance and weed or either, it works. It works either way. A tweet that I like from Dana Donnelly at Dana Donnelly, D-O-N-L-Y tweeting.

My ex would always reply to random girls Instagram stories. And when I called him on it, he was like, well, well if it makes you feel better they usually don't even respond like oh yeah that makes me feel better to learn my boyfriend is not only shady he's also undesirable oh my god he keeps coming with the fucking heat rocks on twitter so yeah a couple tweets i've been enjoying earl sweatshirt tweeted, I thank God every day that my son is a pleasure to be around. He saves his greatest challenges for his strongest soldiers, and he knows I'm not strong enough to be locked in with a bad vibes baby.

Which is very true of me as well. And then Katie Sexhaver St.ge at Skatey420 tweeted, description, too nervous to ask for emotional support. Man, it smells like wrong dog in here. Oh, man. I think that might be my favorite tweet of all time. Oh, my God. I was like, what's wrong, dog? I'm glad you asked.

Oh, my god. That's so good. Mastered the form. Wow. That's a perfect tweet. Well done, man. It's like wrong dogging. I love it.

And then you just burst into tears when they ask you. Yeah. Oh, man. It smells like wrong dogging. I was just like. What's wrong dog? I was just thinking. I'm going to use that right now. See, you're going to try that on my therapist.

You're going to be like, it smells like wrong dog. So glad you asked. Now, this week, we're talking about this, this, this, and this. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

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But this time we'll do Wildfires. And, yeah, it's just good is good music man good music it's nice to hear people play instruments and be joyful and it sound good so this is salt s-a-u-l-t with wildfires all right well the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows that is gonna do it for us this morning but we are back this afternoon to tell you what is trending and we'll talk to y'all then bye bye k hasn't heard from her sister in seven years i have a proposal for you come up here and document

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