The Daily Zeitgeist - 50K Benghazi’s, LITERAL Handmaids 9.23.20

Episode Date: September 23, 2020

In episode 721, Jack and Miles are joined by Alison Rosen Is Your New Best Friend's Alison Rosen to discuss the Supreme Court justice seat and the People of Praise, Covid-19 deaths, foods that changed... when we weren't looking, the junk food industry taking advantage of the pandemic, and more!FOOTNOTES: Toomey, swing state Republican, supports Senate moving on Trump Supreme Court nominee How Charismatic Catholic Groups Like Amy Coney Barrett's People of Praise Inspired 'The Handmaid's Tale' 50,000 Benghazis, 109 Katrinas: U.S. COVID-19 Death in Perspective What Do 200,000 Deaths Add Up To? Oh, fine, General Mills will make its cereal tasty just this once Bananas looked totally different in the 1940s — before disaster struck SIGNALLING VIRTUE, PROMOTING HARM: Unhealthy commodity industries and COVID-19 How soda impacts diabetes risk How COVID-19 Impacts People with Diabetes Why COVID-19 is more deadly in people with obesity—even if they’re young WATCH: El. Train - Lemon (El. Train Edit) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:56 My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. wearing my G-string, making my thighs seem. Get ready to simp, Cause they're covered in oil Wasted away again In Dugaritaville That is courtesy of Christy Almagooch And I'm thrilled to be joined as always
Starting point is 00:03:17 By my co-host Mr. Miles Gray Hey I I'm still so high Hey I That was one of my favorite Pearl Jam songs ever. I just came up with that right now because I didn't have time to check Twitter. I stayed off of it today. But yeah, thank you to my brain and my sense of 90s nostalgia. And Eddie Vedder, obviously, for that.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Yeah, yeah. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious, untalented Allison Rosen. Hello. Thank you for having me. Oh, hey. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for being here. Very excited to be here.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I'm glad we... So for people who don't listen to Will You Accept This Rose, Allison and I were on a recent episode of that with Arden, who was Monday's guest, and we're like, let's just take it to the Zeitgeist. Let's just keep it going. Let's keep the pods coming. And then you've blessed us with your presence here on our second-rate podcast, so thank you. Well, let's see if I stay the whole show.
Starting point is 00:04:19 At a certain point, I might be like, this is just so second-rate. I only do top tier shows. But I am interested in talking about fondant or fondant. I feel like that bumps you guys up. What's your feeling on fondant on cakes? Do you like them? It's really for show is our feeling, and we don't like it. Because do you feel like it's a lie do you feel like it's a lie?
Starting point is 00:04:47 Sort of like, is it like fake tits of frosting? It's a lot of work to eat. Yeah. It's like chewy. I don't know. It comes off. It's like putting skin on your, on your cake. I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:04:59 That's one way to look at it. I am going to come out in favor of it. I do feel like, i do feel like occasionally i have tried to eat some and i'm like oh this is plastic maybe this isn't even edible this is like you know that but that shitty button candy where it's just like dots of i think they're called dots yeah no that's another shitty candy i think oh okay oh yeah yeah wait which what's what are the button candy is like you guys might be too young oh is it the one that's another shitty candy, I think. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah, yeah. Wait, what are the button ones? Button candy is like, you guys might be too young to know this. Oh, is it the one that's on the paper?
Starting point is 00:05:28 Yes, it looks like paper from an adding machine, like an analog adding machine. And then there's these little dots. Yeah, like a Scantron form, but it's psychedelic and rainbow-colored dots on it. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. The shittiest. You pick it off of each. Scantron candy.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Each one has paper on it still, so that can be like fondant. But I don't know, there's something magical about how shiny it is. They should call that shit rainbow Scantron candy. When I was picturing it in my head, I was thinking of that candy, but I was calling it dots. Dots are just the, are like jelly, what's it called? Like thimbles. Yeah, little thimbles of jelly candy yeah dots are
Starting point is 00:06:07 supposed to be gumdrops without this came up recently my podcast is not about snacks we just talk about snacks a lot uh and dots came up on the show because we were i was polling people to find out do you think that they're awful or good and i was shocked at how many people love Dots. I've literally never met someone until all of a sudden all these Dot fans came out of the woodwork. Yeah. I don't trust them. I think that's a great first question.
Starting point is 00:06:35 We usually open up asking our guests what their search history is and overrated under it. I think we're going to start by asking them what their feelings are on Dots. It tells you a lot about it. I mean, that should be something that's in a dating profile. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Because it's a deal breaker kind of question. Well, it's indicative of what brings someone pleasure. And I think when you're someone like, whoa, that? I don't know then. I don't know if we're speaking the same language anymore. Exactly. All right. We are going to get to know you a little bit better in a second, Allison.
Starting point is 00:07:08 First, we are going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about. We're going to talk about the Supreme Court vacancy. Pat Toomey is probably the senator who seals it. We'll see. We also have Romney. They're in competition to see who seals it. Either way,'ll see we also have you know romney they're in competition to see who seals it either way we're fucked it's weird like because even yeah it's still anything it's 2020 you know a fucking alien could you know independence day the capital and we'd be like yeah
Starting point is 00:07:36 i don't know i guess fucking 20 didn't it seem hopeful for like a second i feel like there was like a day where it's like oh maybe they'll actually be able to you know maybe the republican we're not supposed to talk about this yet right we just talk about later it's fine it's fine yeah let's talk about it later but uh yeah as in like maybe tomorrow let's just ignore this it's kind of overwhelming let's put a pin in this all right let's talk some dots though huh we're gonna ask the question who could it be now uh it's looking like amy coney barrett uh depending on how much they are willing to dig into the people of praise group we're gonna talk about that the the group she's a part of that is the inspiration it uh yeah we'll talk we'll talk about that we'll talk about uh the inspiration. Don't spoil it. Yeah, we'll talk about that.
Starting point is 00:08:26 We'll talk about the- The inspiration for a prestige TV show. Which one is it, though? You don't know. You'll find out at 11. We're going to talk about the COVID-19 death toll. I won't tell you what milestone it's passed, but it sure has passed a milestone.
Starting point is 00:08:43 We're going to talk about foods that changed when we weren't looking uh general mills sort of told on themselves about some of our childhood cereals so we'll talk about that we'll talk about yeah dots uh not as good as they used to be the dot truth or our finson leak uh we'll talk about uh junk food advertising during the pandemic all of that plenty more but. But first, Allison, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Okay. So my search was portable notebook ad 1990s. And this was one of like 1,400 similar searches. I also did portable brother ad 1980s, portable typewriter ad 1980s, 1990s. I could not find what I was looking for.
Starting point is 00:09:33 The reason I was looking for this is the aforementioned Arden Marine, who was just on my podcast. She and I on email were talking about a book that I want to write. And she's sort of been helping me just, I don't know, she's been trying to motivate me to like, just do it, just put it on paper. And I feel like the blank page is daunting. And I feel like I just, I just want to leave it in my brain to like marinate right now, which is really just me being lazy. I don't feel like sitting in front of my computer. And I was saying like, I think my computer is intimidating me right now. I need one of those portable typewriters from the ads in 17 way back when we're like, you could take it on a train. And I said more details about the ad that I was talking about. But I wasn't sure if
Starting point is 00:10:21 she would remember what I meant. So then I was trying to find an image of this ad and I can't find it. I am left now to wonder, did I invent this? This is like, oftentimes this will happen to me where I'm like, there was an episode of Facts of Life that was a takeoff of Twilight Zone, right? That's so weird though. Did I imagine that? And I did not imagine it. It is called Seven Little Indians. So anyway, there was like, I feel like it was sort of like
Starting point is 00:10:48 a smart typewriter or something. It was like a Dell typewriter, but it had some kind of computer aspect of it. And I don't think it was the 80s. I think it was the 90s. And it was in either like Seventeen Magazine or Sassy. I read all those magazines sassy magazine and they would show two different people using this like i don't know if it was ibm or toshiba i don't know what brother or dell or what it was but two different people and like how it would be incorporated into their life and it was like on one page and it was split down the middle and like one person took it on the train and they did and the other one like went to a cafe um but i cannot i cannot find it so So someone listening probably knows. Are you sure it's not the Macintosh one?
Starting point is 00:11:29 What you're describing is more like I would call a word processor. Right, right. Yes. Early word processors. Because that's what they would call them back then when it was a typewriter. But it had this little tiny screen on it. So it's kind of like a computer. So maybe search word.
Starting point is 00:11:43 I don't know. I think you're right used to type like her like movie articles like when she was critiquing films like on one of those and i was like what the fuck is this thing it's so weird and i think the smallest screen uh but yeah word pro or tell you it's the wave of the future well in japanese you call it wapuro which is a wild processor so you just you just basically short condense it so you like yeah that's that wapro right there maybe i should have searched wapuro yeah or word processor ad whatever but yeah if there's any uh typist or enthusiasts
Starting point is 00:12:17 uh archivists historians please please holler at allison, yeah. So initially when I typed like portable typewriter ad, these really old vintage ads were coming up. And I was like, this is not at all what I'm looking for. From like the 40s? Yes. Yeah, yeah. The first time that they sold typewriters that weren't bolted down to like the house that you lived in.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Right. They did used to, because I remember my parents had them, they each had one, like his and hers. It was probably like a wedding present or something. And they came in these like big, almost suitcases
Starting point is 00:12:51 that you would carry them around in. I'm sure they were super heavy. Right. Yeah, yeah. No, I remember the typewriter my family had when I was growing up came in like a suitcase thing. Also a personal defense weapon.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Yeah, absolutely. What is something you think is overrated? Oh, I wrote down two of them. Wow. One is more frivolous and one is a little, no, I'll do the, okay, I'll do the more serious one. I personally think doing things really young and being advanced is overrated.
Starting point is 00:13:28 I wasn't like Doogie Howser or anything. I was just your average kind of like accelerated kid. I was in AP classes. I was taking some college classes in high school, some high school classes in eighth grade. And it just felt like extra pressure. I feel like if you have the ability to do those subjects, you eventually will get to them. What is the rush? And then also, I wrote for the LA Times when I was 18, which was like a real big feather in my cap. I started
Starting point is 00:14:01 writing when I was in high school and i for the longest time i was like the youngest person in any situation i was in and so much of my identity was kind of shaped around this idea of like being the i'm so young to be doing xyz but the problem with that yeah again i don't mean i don't want to paint myself out as like i didn't graduate harvard at 18 or at 14 i didn't i also didn't go to harvard but i wasn't like one of those people but i was you know younger than everyone you were the cameron crowe of the la times you know there you go there you go um but the problem with that is it doesn't last and then uh you know eventually all of a sudden you're the same age as everyone. And then all of a sudden everyone's younger than you and it can mess you up.
Starting point is 00:14:48 So I just think that whole thing is overrated because it sets you up to then have trouble transitioning into like just being of average age. Right. Yeah. Adult mediocrity. Yeah. Yeah. Sort of like, yeah. yeah yeah sort of like yeah yeah my wife uh was a like musical prodigy when she was young and i think it like totally turned her off of music like she she was like playing carnegie hall when she was like seven and wow the whole trick was like she look how young she is the whole trick what even was like a flea circus it's's just a, yeah, flea circus. She wasn't playing,
Starting point is 00:15:26 it was a computer doing all the work. She was an amazing musician, but then like, It was actually a chicken playing a piano behind her. Right. Right, that was the,
Starting point is 00:15:35 and that's the real gag and they didn't even show the chicken. But I remember her friends from high school when they like met me, they were like, you haven't seen her play like the piano or the violin because she just like kind of got burnt out early right i think that also
Starting point is 00:15:50 happens right and also i feel like that one relates to people right now who feel like their life is stalled because of the pandemic which i think is everyone and also if you have kids doing remote learning and all that, and these concerns about like what's going to happen, they're off track. It'll be okay. Yeah. They'll figure it out.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Yeah. Yeah. I think you have young children too, right? I do. Yeah. I have a three and a half year old and a one and a half year old. Yeah. I have a four and a two.
Starting point is 00:16:20 You have four and two? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so they're like the same ages. It is tough. One of the best things i heard early on was like when we were worried about our older boy like being potty trained and one of these like child uh experts was like yeah you know what i don't know too many kids
Starting point is 00:16:39 who like got to high school and still were not potty trained, you'll be fine. I was like, okay. That's a longer time frame. I feel better now. What? High school? Yeah. Did you not get it by then? I mean, college, definitely. I actually went backwards in college because I was drinking so much. Well, to Allison's point, I think doing things so early is a little overrated. I'm still on my potty journey. Right, right. But you have pull-ups, and I've always been impressed by that. Yeah, well, they're fucking sick as fuck because I got them in designer prints now, so they're cool. Allison, what is something you think is underrated?
Starting point is 00:17:21 Oh, I feel like this is a real basic kind of thing, but I think just one of those heat pads that you plug in is underrated. I think not enough people talk about loving a heat pad. Every night I plug mine in, I turn it up and I get in bed and I put it on my abdomen, but really I could put it anywhere and I feel super snuggly and comfy and cozy and it like instantly relaxes me.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Now some people don't like to be warm, but I do. And I find that it's just like, um, sometimes if I'm feeling super stressed, I'll just turn on. This is painting such a pathetic picture of me but i also enjoy an electric heated electric heated throw and i'll just sometimes back in the day when i traveled i
Starting point is 00:18:13 would even travel with it um i just find it like totally makes me feel secure and relaxed it's like a weighted blanket i was gonna say do you like a weighted blanket too i don't own one right gentle x-rays no that's the thing i've been told that it's like that and i don't i'm kind of neutral on the lead apron right you're more about you're a heat person less of a person yeah heat person less of a weight person but full disclosure i was supposed to receive a weighted blanket because they were a sponsor on my show. And it accidentally got sent to the wrong office. And then I was told it would be forwarded to me. And it never was, I imagine, because the postage of a weighted blanket is just too much.
Starting point is 00:19:01 It's insurmountable. Yeah, they're like, what do you want me to fucking do with this? How do you guys feel about them wait i i like i love a weighted blanket uh one of my cats peed on it recently so i gotta do a whole thing there to remove that uh wonderful scent uh but i love it uh we also full disclosure we did an ad for one as well, and I love a dental x-ray. I love, you know, I just love the feeling of it. Yeah, just want to crush my chest. I think I made a Crucible reference when we were doing the ad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:35 I think one of the things that they asked us not to emphasize, but I think I can talk about now, great babysitter for children who are, like, one to two. You just, like, throw that thing on top of them they're good yeah they'll eventually fall asleep they get tuckered up am i right you guys are a weighted blanket podcast right am i right that they're kind of all small though or is it like full body size full body full body the body. The one we did. Yeah. And I got, I kind of, I went a little too overboard with the weight to the point where I was like,
Starting point is 00:20:09 it's comfy, but a little too much. Like my partner was like trying to get it off. He's like, you weren't breathing. And I was like, Oh my God. It was a lot.
Starting point is 00:20:21 It was a lot. But the thing about the, I love in Japan, we like, we keep talking about Japan, is like heated carpets are a thing in the winter where you'd put this basically like carpet-sized heating pad underneath your carpet. Because you sit on the floor a lot in Japan. So you just have this nice heated carpet. I want to bring that vibe to my home.
Starting point is 00:20:42 But it's just so hot. There's no need for it. But there's just something comforting about just laying on an entirely hot rug. I love that. I need that in my life. My in-laws who are Korean are way into heated blankets, heated everything. I've noticed that just overseas, heated towel racks are almost like very common like much more common i think heated things just in general are are less common in in the united states this just shows how cultured
Starting point is 00:21:14 elegant and um worldly i am and i didn't even know i know exactly exactly uh what is the myth what is something uh people think is true you know to be false or vice versa something false i think there's this idea i okay i had this idea that in order to get pregnant all you have to do is stop preventing pregnancy i I, you know, dare and sex ed and safe sex and all that was so like beaten into my brain
Starting point is 00:21:52 that sounds more violent, but I just mean I grew up so afraid of all the things that come with sex that I was like, so, you know, I didn't,
Starting point is 00:22:02 the idea of not practicing safe sex was just, I couldn't even imagine it. Like, the first time I had sex, I took a pregnancy test, even though we also used condoms. This is too much information, but I just was so afraid of it. I really expected that, like, the minute I try to get pregnant, I will get pregnant because it's, you know. And for me, it was so much more difficult i didn't even consider the idea that it might be that it just isn't going to be super easy and we um i've been very public about it on my show we ended up doing ivf uh for both my kids so it took a whole team of scientists and a lot of money in
Starting point is 00:22:39 order for me to get pregnant so that i don't want to be i don't less than anyone young listen to be listening to this it might be super easy for you to get pregnant right so it's still as easy for a lot of people for me it was not yeah and judging from the standing room only crowd at the fertility clinic for a lot of women it is not right right yeah yeah the those like sex abstinence talks that because i went to like a lutheran like middle school where first of all they showed us the most dated fucking footage of anything like i didn't know what my own penis looked like based on what they were showing me i was like what the fuck is this it looks like a cross section of like a pringles can and i'm like i don't know what the fuck we're looking at so hey they did us a disservice there
Starting point is 00:23:28 and then i think but also like the big like awareness around safe sex also kind of put swung my pendulum the other way where i was very concerned about like any kind of sexually transmitted diseases and things like that i was always like no we always wore condoms i was like my friends who like even in college, they would be in committed relationships and not using condoms. I'm like, oh, okay, yeah, good luck, bro. We'll see how that goes.
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Starting point is 00:28:05 or wherever you stream podcasts and we're back and uh the the republican integrity watch uh has has officially completed we know uh officially there won't be enough republican senators to stick to their policy on uh whether a supreme court justice should be confirmed in a election year well see because last time it was different because there was a democratic president and then a republican senate so now that it's a republican senate and a Republican presidency, that's why this time is different. It's one of the asinine logical explanations I've heard. Totally. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Which is like playing Monopoly with someone and all of a sudden they just reach over and they grab some of your Monopoly money and they're like, oh, yeah, we have a rule where 37 minutes into the game, we just all take 600 of your monopoly money and they're like oh yeah we have a rule where 37 minutes into the game we just all take 600 of your dollars um didn't you know about it like that like does anyone believe that this is a rule or that this is precedent because it's never been precedent previously well yeah as far as i understand this is where like our tools of using historical references and precedent are just ineffective against the opposition. They don't care. They're like, look, the problem is mathematically, I'm speaking as a GOP, they're saying, we don't have enough fucking people that believe in our mess of a platform because it's so
Starting point is 00:29:38 racist and hateful that all we can do is suppress the fuck out of the vote and rely on this completely imbalanced system of representation to use minority rule to just hammer through that we all we can do is suppress the fuck out of the vote and rely on this completely imbalanced system of representation to use minority rule to just hammer through the most fucked thing. So, yeah, we're going to do whatever the fuck we can at any point, because it's it's a cornered animal like it's it's in a fight for its life at every point. And Democrats are always sort of like, yeah, well, wow. I mean, Lindsey Graham said we should use his words against him.
Starting point is 00:30:04 And yep, check this out. Cut to he doesn't give a fuck. So what now? Like all this I think really needs to signal to people is that there are like the rules are completely gone and that things actually need to happen in terms of addressing these kinds of like just completely bad faith maneuvers from, from the GOP. Right. I do think Democrats get a bit distracted by these arguments and then attempt to dismantle them as a, and then that's just sort of like getting distracted by this shiny thing over
Starting point is 00:30:39 here. When I, and I, it does seem that way there, they're going to do it if they can. They did it because they could back in 2016 and they're going to do it if they can. They did it because they could back in 2016, and they're going to do it because they can now. And it is so depressing.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Yeah. Yeah, it's, I mean, to your point, Miles, they're fully aware that they are the minority in a democratic institution. And so they have this insurgency mentality where they are just always looking for ways to cheat the system um i guess my question would be the the only thing that's left because i i was under no uh pretense that they were going to not uh move forward is like
Starting point is 00:31:19 will this hurt them politically like will the people the independents who are like yeah sometimes i vote republican sometimes i vote democrat like see this and just i mean it's it's wrong right like it's yeah transparently wrong if anything like democrats just be like this is why you can't trust these fucking people they're despicable like and just let that be it be like this is despicable i'm not i don't need to talk about their hypocrisy. They've proven how craven they are. So there's no point in like trying to convince a Republican voter. They're like, hey, can you believe how hypocritical this entire party you've been supporting like through thick and like cishet people like ruling the entire globe. But regardless of what happens, you know, even if Democrats can stall something out and they they aren't able to get anything done before January, we have to add seats to the Supreme Court. I mean, that's like pretty much the only way to to try and level this because you have
Starting point is 00:32:21 lifetime appointments. And even if, you know, let's say Biden gets in and they're still able to block someone, block the Republicans from filling Ginsburg's seat, and then they put a liberal justice in there, you still have a conservative leaning Supreme Court that will be more than happy to obstruct any of the policy goals that a Biden administration would have just because that's what the Supreme Court is there for. It's like if you argue and sue enough, you'll eventually find your way in D.C. and be in front of a Supreme Court that's more than willing to help. Right. And I've seen the argument made that, well, once the Republicans are back in power, that they'll just add more until it's like handmaid's tale basically
Starting point is 00:33:06 and you know there there's just like 30 uh supreme court justices and we just keep adding more and more justice arms race right there'll be more people on the court than there are not right then there are like congress people like okay we have or six hundred thirteen Supreme Court justices now. Right. Right. But I mean, but that's to your point. Like, I feel if you're a Republican, you got to think like if we don't do this, like we're we could be done unless Democrats still want to be humane with us, even though we've been so inhumane with everything constantly. But I still feel like, you know, Joe Biden in his heart, he still feels like there's like that bipartisan thing that can still happen, even though they've fully taken their
Starting point is 00:33:50 masks off. And they're like, we're not really here for that. We just we're just grinding this thing out to the wheels completely blow off. It's interesting, Miles, the way you describe the Republicans as a cornered animal that appeals to me because I see them more as a behemoth. Right. No, I mean, it's so desperate. You know, before it was easy when, you know, the stock market was doing great and they could do everything behind this veneer of like being proper. But now their idea, like the heat has just been on, like it's just, I've been saying,
Starting point is 00:34:25 proper but now their idea like the heat has just been on like it's just i've been saying it's like a stew that's just been reducing and reducing and reducing and all that it's now we're just you've burnt off any of the people who were with it when it was more like this sort of apple pie white picket fence idea of like american conservatives and now it's been boiled down to like now we're looking for we're more like reconstruction jim crow type people. Uh, and that's kind of the vibe. And because of that, yeah. Numerically of Republicanism. Yeah. And you're just outnumbered and you're only dealing with the most hardcore now. And because numerically you are at a disadvantage, like absolutely like you, their, their backs are to the wall. And that's why everything is so just awful because that's sort of you know when you're at the end of your you know at the end of the road or going to you think this is the end of
Starting point is 00:35:10 the road for them like again i this is very appealing to me because i feel like they are going to grab power and have power for a while and that's what scares me so you know what i mean to say is that it's not that they're gonna vanish and then we'll never hear from them again. It's just that they are unable to with the way the, you know, society is moving and what is becoming more normal and who, how we think of humanity, that their party just isn't going to augment their numbers at any point. So in that sense, there's a desperation because the ideology has gone completely flat and it's no longer inviting more people into it. They will absolutely be able to find ways to stay in power because they're willing to go to depths most people didn't think anyone
Starting point is 00:35:56 would, but that's where we're at. So yeah, I mean, not to say, I mean, I wish it was something like Wicked Witch scenario and the Wizard of Oz. And it's just like, bye. But yeah, it's just more that you're like, oh, they're desperate. And there's nothing more dangerous than, you know, a cat like trying to avoid going into a bathtub. Like, and this cat has like a ton of like adamantium claws and like fucking weed whackers attached to it. So it's like, fuck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:23 That cat will piss on your weighted blanket oh yeah oh yeah i already did yeah i i think the fact that they combine the aspects of a behemoth with the aspects of a cornered animal is what's so scary to your point allison like they are they are acting desperately and also have three of the four major governing bodies in the United States with the Supreme Court, Senate and presidency. So, like, yeah, it's like the same thing with we've had death cults before in the United States. We've never had a death cult where the Messiah is Trump, like with QAnon. It's where the Messiah is the president of the United States. There's like a lot of unprecedented things that I think could lead to unprecedented,
Starting point is 00:37:10 you know, fascism in the United States where they just like grab the power because they can or because they're scared of losing it. I had a dream last night that I was talking, I think it was like at Starbucks or something. And I was talking to someone and the woman behind the counter said something about Stalin and about the direction the Democrats want to take this country. And I was like, okay, well, it's very clear to me that we are opposed politically and blah, blah, blah. And anyway, I ended up having this conversation with her about like communism and fascism. And I woke up and I was like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Like my stupid Twitter fights are invading my dreams. I don't even get a respite from it when I'm asleep. Right. Yeah. No, it's and it's not going anywhere. That's why I wasn't on Twitter today. I'm like, yeah. After watching The Social Dilemma, i'm like yeah after watching the social dilemma i'm
Starting point is 00:38:05 like yeah right the only way i can actually rest control over this thing is to disengage from the fucking like whatever it's like the ring of power like it suddenly it's it's like whispering to you and you're like fuck let me harm myself by opening it for a little bit more and that's i think when i started seeing like how I was like almost exhaling, like I was about to lift weights before I opened like a social media application. I was like, oh, my God. Like I was I was stealing myself to use an application where I'm interacting. And I'm like, no, that's that's that's fucked. Fuck. Right. Well, let's look at just how far from the kind of down the middle democratic beliefs of this country the Republicans have gone with the leading candidate for Trump's Supreme Court pick, Amy Coney Barrett. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:59 So she's affiliated with a type of Christianity, a type of Catholicism called the charismatic movement. And specifically she comes from like a family, like a lineage that is heavily involved in the people of praise group. I think they said her father and her husband's father were both like leaders in this organization and they continue to be uh involved in it that oh so they're good they're involved in the church sounds right so the people of praise group uh so they have heads and handmaids um this is actually the actual inspiration for uh margaret atwood's handmaid's tale like she had when the
Starting point is 00:39:48 new yorker went and interviewed her and she like showed them some of the documents from when she was brainstorming the handmaid's tale uh she had an article about this group uh underlined with like handmaids underlined so yeah they have a thing called heads and handmaids they basically believe that uh the husband is in charge of his wife uh and that like basically there's like a mentorship system where people within the group who are considered like leaders will dictate to people who are like their charges, what, what,
Starting point is 00:40:27 who they're allowed to date, what they're allowed to do, how they raise their children. Simplifies it. Um, yeah. Right. So what's the problem?
Starting point is 00:40:38 Sounds like she's a good Catholic woman. Yeah. And is all about mentoring. Sadly, the names are a little weird and yeah, it's tied to some you know fantastic novel uh well apparently after the show the book sorry after the book came out they there was too much pressure on the name so they so now instead of calling them heads and handmaids they just call them leaders but we know what the names used to be right yeah right i mean just like the idea of this right it i can't
Starting point is 00:41:11 imagine what it looks like during a confirmation hearing when they're talking about so in this group you would follow people around and report them for doing things that were untoward based on the belief system of this group? Yes, and then they could be punished. Yep. Okay. What? The former member's quote is, they're very watchful of their people. They report things to your heads if they see you out doing things you're not supposed to be doing. It's very much a big
Starting point is 00:41:38 brother type of thing. Law and order. A bunch of narcs. Yeah, exactly. Narcs telling your RA. um so law and order a bunch of narcs party right yeah exactly yeah someone's just like honestly yeah someone's like i don't like uh um mrs barrett because she's like kind of a narc dude honestly like that's kind of fucked up i get it you're a judge but like also i guess come on that's fucking this is some um rasputin shit yeah like the caris so i looked up the charismatic christian movement because i thought it just i
Starting point is 00:42:06 thought it meant like mega church um but the charismatic christian tongues so there is yes there's that so they believe in like the the spiritual gifts the charism or something which is like there's all these spiritual gifts and they can do miracles. They believe in healing. So like laying of hands, they speak in tongues, they do prophecy. They, and then there's some that are like less, uh,
Starting point is 00:42:32 what the fuck about them. But still this is, that's intense. Like that's intense. If you heard, if you saw someone on the corner who looked disheveled speaking in tongues, you would steer clear of that person right yeah but now we're going to confirm them potentially to the supreme court um but yeah
Starting point is 00:42:52 when i say it's rasputin shit i just mean that like she doesn't i doubt she's making decisions on her own she's connected to this whole party that now is going to be at the levers of power this is not separation of church and state at all. And also, apparently, she, like, Dianne Feinstein said something to her, like, the something, this is not, it was like, the dogma is strong in you or something. Lives loudly within you.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Yes. Amy Barrett claims she can separate the two, but I don't quite buy that. I want to to what they should do is like hook her up to like a brain activity monitor heart rate breathing monitor and then play the wap video on loop and just see if we'll know we'll know we'll know yes what's firing off when she's when she's watching that or if she's like or if low-key she's feeling it then they're like i don't know she she might be cool she might be friend because her husband just sucks but that's the other thing too is like what
Starting point is 00:43:47 influence does would her husband potentially have like she's already saying that she's in subscribes to this belief where she is subordinate to her husband and then but but even then they're we're expected to believe it's like well we're not going to go that far where i'm going to affect her work i mean yes i'm her boss and i tell her how to cut her hair and what to wear and how to smell and what to eat and when to eat and how many times to chew before swallowing but i would never tell her how to you know decide on a case with something to do is like in you know i don't care like abortion whatever i don't care like that's her that's her call mbd the fuck out of here that's like this is it really is it's just it's it's it's unnerving MBD. Get the fuck out of here. That's like, this is, it really is.
Starting point is 00:44:25 It's just, it's, it's, it's unnerving. And it, it's just so bizarre that we're looking at somebody that makes like a Brett Kavanaugh look like Ibram X. Kendi or some shit, like the most woke dude on the planet. You're like, what? But, um, yes, this is, but these are the kinds of people you need because also the other benefit to having her is she's only 48. So she could serve for a hot minute like for a while um and that's why i think yeah that we're just having to keep our eye out and that's why again it's this is how the consequences of uh this decision could could
Starting point is 00:44:59 have you know echo for generations depending on how uh democrats respond if they're able to completely uh come to power all right let's uh briefly talk about the grim milestone uh as i think it'll be called in every headline in every major newspaper that america just crossed with 200 000 dead uh from the coronavirus it's brutal it didn't have to be this way um and yeah i i just go back to that article uh that i talked about from where they looked at the coronavirus uh outbreak and pandemic like it was a airplane airline crash and you, did a did the black box recovery on it. And we're just like, yeah, this is basically all pilot error. This is all, you know, mistakes like there were systems in place to help deal with this and that would have stopped this.
Starting point is 00:46:00 And instead, we had a pilot who was actively, you know, doing the opposite of what the protocols tell you to do. Yeah. And people like aren't, you know, if like Trump supporters, when you say this could have been avoided and, you know, you have these like really seemingly sound debates or discussions or arguments about like this is where they were negligent this is where they missed an opportunity this was also a missed opportunity this is the quote to back it up uh that the pivot is just to oh well it doesn't exist and it's actually not that bad um and that's that's what's also frightening too because i think even if they don't think it's not that bad there are so many people that have even if you don't know if you don't know someone personally that lost their life your life has been
Starting point is 00:46:49 affected by this tremendously because of how this was mishandled like i have two family members that passed away in japan that i have not been able to go and mourn their deaths because i can't travel and i know so many other people who have either braved cross-country travel, international travel, despite that, because there are certain things we're trying to do. But at the end of the day, because the leadership has been so awful, we've only just managed to exacerbate this to a point where we honestly don't think we could have even imagined. What drives me batty are the people who try to spin it like 200,000 really isn't that much. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:29 You know, the number of like, it's really just a small percentage. And we're going to change our whole way of life just over this, you know, tiny percentage. And it's like, we changed our whole way of life after 9-11. And that was far fewer people. This is 67 9-11s in terms of death toll right yeah trump just gave a speech where he was uh where he talked about how nobody nobody knows anybody it barely affected anybody and yeah i mean it's again the bipartisan playbook for leadership in a pandemic that like everybody agreed on ahead of this one is slow steady repetition of the same talking points of like the facts that everybody agrees on
Starting point is 00:48:12 grant your seal of approval to a scientist and keep supporting them don't insert yourself like don't put yourself out front and like he did everything the opposite of that to the point that that sounds like i was just like writing that up as a contradiction of like everything he did but that that was the playbook before and he completely disregarded everything and then the woodward stuff that came because before it was like oh he's just a huge idiot and then the woodward stuff came out and it's like no he he knew what he was he knew the truth yeah yeah um and now it's less than uh most americans are wary of the of the vaccine to the point that they won't get the they say they won't get the first vaccine because people on the left are wary of it because Trump has attached his name to it and also has made it seem like they're just ramming something through for his political purposes. And people on the right don't think it's real
Starting point is 00:49:27 i guess so and also our anti-vaxxers i mean just to you know there are a lot of articles trying to put into perspective numerically what 200 000 deaths is and it's you know on the smaller scale it's the number of people who have died from heart disease over a 16-week period or the estimated people who have passed away from cancer in a 17-week period. But then you start getting down into it. It's 55 years worth of deaths in fires at the current U.S. death rate in terms of structural fires. It's 1,700 years ofistan war fatalities it's fucking 28 battles of gettysburgs it's 80 d days worth of dead people it's fucking 50 000 benghazis worth of dead americans and i think that's what's even really, you know, that's just how, you know, again,
Starting point is 00:50:25 these people, nothing, what they say is actually what they believe. The end game is always just about to cause as much, you know, just to reestablish de facto white supremacy in whatever way they can get away with. And that's the bottom line, because I guarantee you, if the numbers look differently and a majority of the COVID fatalities were white americans uh i think there would be some alarms going up more but unfortunately it's people of color that are bearing the brunt of a lot of the fatalities so you know let's let's just pretend it's it's something that people we don't know get and also if it happened under a democratic president he would you'd never stop i mean you're we're still hearing about H1N1.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Yeah, exactly. That's why I think anything that like a Republican says after this presidency is just absolute bullshit. Like there's nothing. It's like you completely showed you've, you've revealed yourself to be a fucking spooky ghost, spooky,
Starting point is 00:51:21 racist ghost, hateful motherfucker. So anything, don't complain to me about whatever you think ex-president did because you were fucking you were front row at the hate show uh screaming your ass off uh and like don't the idea that there is anything they could be outraged i think is just preposterous um but what about our emails uh all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back
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Starting point is 00:55:44 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. serious backlash. Listen to rebel spirit on the I heart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. So general mills has this new promotion that they're doing where, uh, I'll just read from the announcement. General mills is bringing back the taste and shapes that ruled your Saturday mornings in the 80s. Cocoa Puffs is bringing more chocolate.
Starting point is 00:56:09 So basically, they're saying, we're going back to the original recipe. They're doing a new Coke back to Coca-Cola classic on Cocoa Puffs, Cookie Crisp, Trix, and Golden Grahams. And on Golden Grahams, they they're like honey is back which so corn syrup is out right so apparently they changed the recipes on these products without telling people i don't think people realized that they you know they they didn't do the dominoes thing where they were like sorry our food sucked for so long please uh accept this new food and i don't know it's just interesting to me to think like are there other products like mcdonald's famously changed the recipe on their french fries like they uh fry it in a different type of oil now. Oh yeah, it's not, well you used to have beef tallow?
Starting point is 00:57:06 Beef tallow, yeah. Yeah, so now it's I think more of a vegetable oil and there's a lot of people who claim that it's much worse and I don't know. There's also the type of banana we eat today are completely different from the types that made bananas popular in the first place. In the 40s and 50s, bananas were supposedly a more sturdy and tasty version called the Big Mike.
Starting point is 00:57:35 And then something called Panama disease came through and wiped all those out. That was banana COVID. Yeah, exactly. And they had to replace it with what we have now, which is the Cavendish banana. Is that a fucking colonizer? Yeah, that's like an apple-ass name. The Cavendish?
Starting point is 00:57:56 That sounds like a... Yeah, that ain't it. That's like Macintosh. Come on. The banana industry should go excavate some Big Mike seed and bring it back and brand it in the same way the cereal company has because i it sounds like we've never had a banana the way we're supposed to have a banana i think that i this doing a little bit of research on this made
Starting point is 00:58:19 me think that bananas are a real growth industry because first of all, bananas are the most popular food in America. They're the food that is eaten more than any other food in the country, I think, just by mass. But also, we only have the one type, whereas with apples and everything else, with grapes, we have all these different types that you can use, and then bananas is just one type of banana.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Here's your Cavendish. Yeah. Eat your Cavendish. I think I feel like very specifically, I know you think Pepsi hits differently, Jack, now. But I think caffeine-free diet Pepsi in the gold can, that shit doesn't hit the same. that shit doesn't hit the same that shit doesn't hit the same not since the night not since the 90s shout out to my friend's grandma uh wonderful scottish got you onto that yes nana uh she was a she would smoke her cigarettes and drink her caffeine-free diet pepsi and like i was like what the fuck what is she on about because i didn't
Starting point is 00:59:23 have soda in my house so I would drink it and it was fucking I don't know if it was a gold can but I still remember having it like maybe two years ago and it just was fucking it was not right there was something slightly off and it could just be that my taste buds are completely different but I like to think I'm a diet caffeine
Starting point is 00:59:40 free Pepsi truther Pepsi or Coke is Pepsi in the gold can too Pepsi was in the gold can as well diet caffeine pepsi was in the gold yeah yeah i i was saying that i feel like pepsi used to be more delicious but that also might be me just like as a kid wanting a massive like amount of sugar just dumped into my because that's like the thing with Pepsi is like sweeter which is why it wins the taste tests if you're just having like a sip of it it's
Starting point is 01:00:09 better but if you're trying to drink a whole can if you're not a kid who's just like take my tea give me all the sugar this whole segment sounds like we're in the year 2040 where none of this shit exists anymore and we're just like yeah man remember Pepsi in the year 2040 where none of this shit exists anymore. And we're just like, yeah, man, remember Pepsi in the gold can.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Oh, bananas, brother. Oh, the vibes. Oh, boy. I didn't know that Pepsi was sweeter. I think of myself as someone who prefers, well, I prefer a clear diet soda like Sierra Mist or Diet 7-Up or Diet Sprite. That's actually what I reach for. And the reason is because I had clear braces back when those were all the rage. And the braces themselves were porcelain, but the rubber bands would get stained from Diet Coke. So that is, I used to prefer Diet Coke, but I switched at that point to the clear ones. And then that has,
Starting point is 01:01:04 my love of those has stayed this whole time. But back in the day when we left the house, at a restaurant or something, I would always order a Diet Coke, and they'd say, is Diet Pepsi okay? And it was, but I prefer Diet Coke. So I was unaware that Pepsi is sweeter. Now I know. I will say, no, I'll just have a regular Pepsi if it's between Diet Pepsi. If I ask for a Diet Coke and they're like,
Starting point is 01:01:31 no, is Diet Pepsi okay? I'll just have a regular Pepsi. I do not like Diet Pepsi. You'll be like, well, I'm calling the police now. May I speak to your manager? Do you think for these cereals, going back to their retro version is was like their nuclear option they're like in case of emergency break glass because you're right by
Starting point is 01:01:52 doing it they're admitting that they were using these kind of bullshit ingredients all along and they hadn't told us right yeah i think i think maybe or it's just a miscalculated like going back to like trying to play on people's nostalgia it's part of this thing they're doing where they're doing like a drive-through event at the rose bowl with hosted by ac slater um mario yeah uh where they're going Hosted by A.C. Slater. Mario. Yeah. Where they're going to like watch Saturday morning cartoons and like give out bowls of old school cereal. Oh, wow. It's interesting if you think who they're targeting. Like they're not targeting the sugary cereal kids. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:40 With this. They're targeting us. It's us. Yeah. It's because junk food is like king in the pandemic now yeah we were talking uh our writer jm was pointing out like all these pandemic specific ad campaigns like coke and pepsi uh both launch specialty cans to celebrate and thank health care workers how about you donate some fucking money? Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Fuck a stupid can. You know, they'd really like some PPE. Yeah. And also, sugary beverages are like a major cause of obesity in America, and obesity is like a major risk factor for COVID. I think it's 48%. People who are obese are 48% more likely to die die from covid so it's just kind of a weird look on their part well you know you got you got it you got to make money too you know that's like
Starting point is 01:03:31 that's the thing which is so funny that part of it's like sort of like feel good but then it's like like it's feel good we can make some money and we don't look like total shit for like sucking up all the world's water right let's just do that Heinz called their workers keeping America's ketchup supply flowing everyday heroes uh and the the tagline on the ad was we got you America um and meanwhile they were called out by workers for poor factory conditions after the pandemic started and they were still encouraging people to come into work while sick it's such a weird response it just feels really exploitative to me yeah right exactly i mean every company had the same exact response when the pandemic started they because you couldn't distinguish one ad from the other it was all the same B-roll from a stock footage house
Starting point is 01:04:27 of people being at home with their kids and then just piano music. It was really... Hey, in these times. In these times. Now more than ever. And now more than ever. It's like everything.
Starting point is 01:04:41 When you guys email someone, like, what do you say? Because I would say like, hope you're, you know, well, parentheses, as well as well as well as can be expected. I don't even know what to say anymore.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Yeah. I just don't email people. That's my. That's smarter. I just disappeared off the grid. I don't know. I think I sign off with a pleasantry because I feel like starting off, it's like, we get it, dude. Everything fucking sucks.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Yeah. Like, I was joking yesterday with our guest before we were, like, when we started recording. I was like, how are you, Caitlin? And then we were both like, ah, what the fuck? Why did I even fucking ask that? Who gives a shit? I was more like, you're breathing? Nice.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Heart good? Yeah. Great. We'll keep it there. We'll focus on the things that are like great but yeah it's such a difficult question because you know there was that even that study that said how much of an effect this the pandemic and media coverage has had on like the american psyche and people's sense of well-being and how it's gotten so many people in a depressive state. We're even robbed of being able to... We're all just emo teens where we'd rather be like, hey, fuck, whatever. I didn't ask to be born, especially not now.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Exactly. Burger King, by the way, encouraged people to be couch potatriots. Fuck off. And stay home of the whopper. Wow. Some companies got it right, is what I'm saying. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Couch potatriots actually makes me smile a tiny bit. I mean, I feel like it's kind of clever. But fuck them anyway. Yeah. Look, I'm not going to lie. I snickered. I was like,'s kind of clever, but, but fuck them anyway. I'm not. Yeah. I'm not. Look, I'm not going to lie. I, I snickered. I was like, all right, you're a petatriot. But, uh, uh, in this context, you're like, fuck God, it's so fucking like, and then I
Starting point is 01:06:36 feel bad. I'm like, yeah, that, that made me laugh at the thing that killed 200,000 people. Right. Cause I think that's sort of the bottom line is too which is weird is that even like when you have big you know burger king sombreros that keep people six feet apart or whatever that are like fun to look at and are easy like social media fodder like it's still like born out of that it's all set with this terribly dark backdrop yeah um and it's just sort of like yeah i guess this is like the little weird dark shred of happiness that it's very it's very dystopian the giant social distancing burger king crown sombreros is really dark there's like a dose a keys cooler that's six
Starting point is 01:07:20 feet apart they notice they like seize on to the one detail that's like easy to get your mind around and that is of course the thing that like turns out to not necessarily be right true the oreo did a thing where it's like eat your oreos without using your hands because that's a that's a way to because hands are dirty i guess uh but obviously uh obviously eating things like off the table is probably not like a more sanitary way of doing it there's also some really fucked up stuff uh with baby formula companies and the way that they are advertising as like a more healthy way of feeding your baby during the pandemic. Like there was in Vietnam,
Starting point is 01:08:07 one company Photoshopped a face mask onto a baby and also Photoshopped the baby giving a thumbs up. It's a discerning baby who cares about safety. Right. Another Vietnamese company advertised its formula, not with a picture of a baby, but with a giant photo of the director general of the World Health Organization. Because they're like, this is... And yeah, again, there's a long history of companies that produce formula trying to convince people that formula is the healthier, more sanitary option than breast milk, even though
Starting point is 01:08:45 doctors and experts claim that's not the case. So I don't really understand what they're suggesting. Are they suggesting that breastfeeding your baby could pass them COVID? Or just the skin-to-skin contact is unsafe? Yeah it's like gross or something i don't know i don't understand i mean if it was like someone else breastfeeding your baby i could understand okay maybe not right now but if you're the one breastfeeding your baby right yeah i don't know it just seems like it's of a piece with this wider genre of formula companies that make formula doing shady stuff to imply that this is actually the clean healthy way of doing right yeah it's yeah great i think just like this is like association just
Starting point is 01:09:32 by association it's better it's like yeah yeah at a certain point you're like oh wow this breast milk container has like a sick ass lambo on it maybe my kid will be like successful and drive a lamborghino it's like you just make someone feel good so you're like yeah fuck it i know one probably doesn't have anything to do with the other but yeah you did it uh there was also the pepsi slapped its logo on a sign for a covid 19 testing site in a walmart parking lot i think that was my favorite example it was eventually taken down uh after for being too dystop yeah, quote, dystopian hell that it evoked. The COVID-19 testing.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Right now! Come tomorrow! Oh, my God. Allison, it's been a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you and follow you? It's been so much fun. Thank you again for having me. You can find me and follow me at Alison Rosen,
Starting point is 01:10:33 A-L-I, just one L, A-L-I-S-O-N-R-O-S-E-N, on Twitter and Instagram. And listen to my podcast, Alison Rosen is Your New Best Friend. That comes out Monday and Thursday. And then my Parenting-ish podcast, and I say ish because I would say like half our listeners don't have kids. You don't need them. That comes out on Wednesdays, every other Wednesday.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Nice. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Okay, so this one involves a tiny bit of a backstory. My husband's last name is Quance, and he comes on my podcast a lot, and we have this running bit that he's going to start a Quibi competitor called Quabi,
Starting point is 01:11:12 and the joke is going to be, Quibi is like Quick Bytes, so it's like short content, and a Quabi is going to be like an entire movie that is delivered all at once, so when you play your Quabi, it just goes, you get like the entire movie. Like super all at once. So when you play your Quabi, it just goes like the entire movie.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Super fast. Anyway, so he responded to a tweet from Variety saying Jeffrey Katzenberg's Quibi is looking to sell itself. And he wrote, as CEO and founder of Quabi, I would like to announce that we are looking to
Starting point is 01:11:43 acquire Quibi. The wordplay amuses me. Yes, yes. and founder of Quabi, I would like to announce that we are looking to acquire Quibi. Nice. The wordplay amuses me. Yes, yes. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Sometimes. I don't know. Depending on how in touch I am with my emotional state, I may respond. I may look. Sometimes I won't. But yes, at Miles of Grey.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Also, my other podcast, 420 Day Fiance with Sophie Alexander. We're just getting high and talking about 90 Day Fiance. You know, what we call cheap ass therapy. So that's what we're doing on that. That comes out Wednesdays and Thursdays. A tweet that I like. There is one tweet that I like. I was able to muster the energy to cast my gaze upon this cursed device to get one good tweet.
Starting point is 01:12:29 It is from Eve Donnelly, which is actually Dana Donnelly's younger sister. So she's at Eve effing Donnelly. And she tweets, what's the German word for spilling bong water all over yourself in bed at 7 a.m. on a Tuesday? Oh, man. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. A tweet I've been enjoying is from one of the hosts of Worst Year Ever. They certainly called it when they named their show that late 2019, their show about the year 2020.
Starting point is 01:13:06 Cody Johnston, at DrMrCody, tweeted, this is a little old, but really made me laugh. It was in response to the tweet where somebody was like imagining Ruth Bader Ginsburg meeting up with... Oh, Chadwick Boseman. Yeah, meeting up with Chadwick Boseman in heaven. And so Cody's tweet was, RBG meeting George H.W. Bush in heaven
Starting point is 01:13:33 as he gives her a peck on the cheek. Scalia is there next to Prince, who is his best friend. Wilford Brimley and Doris Day walk in, another peck on the cheek. David Bowie smiles. We saved you a seat. Fuck Bowie smiles. We saved USC. Fuckfest
Starting point is 01:13:48 erupts. Fluids everywhere. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked
Starting point is 01:14:10 about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on, Miles. What are we riding out on today? This is a little remix, only on SoundCloud though because, you know, some of these mashups the record labels don't like them because people are using their artistic
Starting point is 01:14:25 license to express themselves, but I find them fantastic. This is a remix of the N.E.R.D. track Lemon, but it has like a funk disco vibe to it, so it hits completely different, and I know it's Wednesday, so it's hump day, so let's just, you know,
Starting point is 01:14:42 let's use the energy of this to get to Thursday, then you shut your eyes one more time, it's Friday, and then we can get into the weekend. Okay, so this's hump day. So let's just, you know, let's use the energy of this to get to Thursday. Then you shut your eyes one more time. It's Friday. And then we can get into the weekend. Okay. So this is the L train remix to any RD's lemon. So peep that. All right.
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