The Daily Zeitgeist - 9-D Chess, Will There Be Food? 7.19.19

Episode Date: July 19, 2019

In episode 436, Jack and Miles are joined by Culture Kings co-host Jacquis Neal to discuss Trump distancing himself from the 'send her back' chants, William Barr's donations to the Senate Republicans, Hope Hicks getting away with lying, moon landing conspiracies, the upcoming heat wave, McDonald menu failures, A.I. chess, foodie calls, and more!FOOTNOTES:1. Trump distances himself from 'send her back' chants2. William Barr’s donations to Senate Republicans spiked just before they confirmed him as attorney general3. New Cohen documents reveal calls with Trump, National Enquirer publisher before payment4. Where on Earth to mark the 50th anniversary of the Apollo 11 moon landing5. How Moon Landing Conspiracy Theories Spread Before the Internet6. Top Trump Adviser Roger Stone: The Moon Landing Video Was A "Hoax” Filmed In New Jersey7. Does Donald Trump Know That We've Already Landed on the Moon?8. Trump attacks Nasa and claims the moon is 'a part' of Mars9. Nasa chief fired as Trump administration vents frustration over moon landing delays10. ‘Dangerous heat wave is building’ as temperatures spike in the central and eastern U.S.11. McDonald’s franchisee group outlines major menu failures12. The Metamorphosis13. Women who go on dates with someone they are not romantically interested in, just to get free food, are more likely to exhibit psychopathic and narcissistic traits14. WATCH: Hasta El Cielo - Khruangbin Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.

Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 91, Episode 5 of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially, off the top, fuck Coke Industries and fuck Fox News.

It's Friday, July 19th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Once there was this Jack who had a daily podcast with his good friend Miles Gray. And when they dropped their hot takes, folks said, it's just a second-rate podcast It didn't even faze them They'd always just known that All right. That was courtesy of Mitch Wheeler, and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! I can't sing after that because... I can say is, welcome, Jack.

That is all you can say, really. I was about to do a mace AK, and I was like, no. But you know what? I do want to say, I've been getting so many magic eye tips. Thank you that I am Miles Gray, a. open my magic eye gray uh thank you to hussein for that one are you able to have you been able to see oh man i'm still not able to see that shit everyone's like look look at your phone look past the image and then like begin to look less like focused i don't know man yeah you gotta look at the reflection

like look beyond it yeah i remember all that shit and then i just learned it i just did it on my own just naturally came to me but you know my optometrist said i've got a talent for that shit so we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented Mr. Jacky Sneal. Here it is. The presence of Jacky Sneal. The presence of Jacky Sneal. In the... Oh, that's it.

That's it? That's it? He was telling me what it was in the rhythm of, like I wouldn't know. That's in the rhythm of? In the rhythm of the presence of the Lord, because I'm bringing the gospel to you guys today. We're bringing the good Lord of Jesus Christ here on the Daily Psych guys today. Guys, what's up? What's up, man?

How are you? We've been starting off our show recently, just telling each other about the story about when we let Christ into our heart. We have lost 500,000 listeners already. We actually gained a few. You gained the Bible Belt. Yeah, they're like, hmm. I like their jokes. They do this like lib joke stuff the whole time.

Speaking of gaining and losing and Belt, Jaquese, you look amazing, dude. Oh, man. You've lost crack. Crack. Crack. I'll do that. I'll do that. And keto, keto, keto, which is crack, man. Keto is real.

I don't know, man. I'm trying to be like Super Producer Anno over here on the keto life. You guys both looking amazing. Look at that. Look at this side of the table. Look at this. Making me feel like I should do it, even though I never will. Jack, I could lose 30 more pounds and you would still be skinnier than I am right now.

You're saying it's like all about your lifestyle. I mean, that's true. Feeling good about things. That's true. That's true. I feel great. Yeah. And you are just saying you feel like shit. All the time. Just always. All right. We're going to get to know you a little bit better

in a moment. But first, we're going to talk about the coming heat wave. We're going to talk about the fact that franchisees are begging McDonald's head office for something that they're not providing. We're going to talk about a distraction update from how the president's racism is being used to distract. Oh, we're just going to talk about the president being racist. We're going to talk about Bill Barr. We're going to talk about it being the 50th anniversary of the moon landing hoax. What?

Now we're going to give the background on the conspiracy theory. We're going to talk about Ricky Leaks. We're going to talk about the Alpha Zero Paradox, which is just some cool shit I read about, and I can't not talk about it now. So I'm going to talk to you guys about that. We're going to talk about Game of Thrones. We're going to talk about foodie calls, which is booty calls for food,

not like a romance hotline where you talk to foodies. Oh, shit. Yeah. Is that what it is for real? No, it's food booty calls. Oh, okay, okay. Oh, shit. Yeah. Is that what it is for real? No, it's food booty calls. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, foodie calls. The other option would be you call some bearded dude in Brooklyn

and he tells you about like- His bespoke pickle company. But like real slow. Yeah, baby. You know anybody who is pickling their own shit? Me? Yeah. No.

Oh, man. Like making their own pickles? Yeah, do you know anybody who's making their own pickles? I hope not. Do You know anybody who is pickling their own shit? Me? Yeah. No. Oh, man. Like making their own pickles? Yeah, do you know anybody who's making their own pickles? I hope not. Do you know anybody? I feel like- Do you? I know some people who-

Yeah. How do you make a pickle? Actually- It's like a hip person who's like, you know, I started making my own pickles. I know somebody who makes their own jam. Oh, yeah. And has been for a long time. Yeah, every time I'm on Mike's tour.

I think we both know that person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On blast. On blast. I know somebody who makes their own toothpicks And is proud as hell Wait what? He makes his own toothpicks And he makes them flavored

He's like yo you want a toothpick? Uh huh Like put the shit in your mouth Like this is weird dude Are they impressive? They are They strong man They're impressive

They're impressive Do they taste good? I mean they taste like wood. Right. So, like, it tastes like a minted wood. But is the toothpick, is this person manufacturing the toothpick also, or are they already making toothpicks and flavoring them? No, no, no.

He's manufacturing them. How do you fucking do that shit? I have no fucking idea. I've always had the the question how do you make a toothpick without like wasting a shitload of wood because you're don't you have to like carve it down from a cookie right press we can just be like and i pressed a thousand toothpicks out of this yeah or maybe it is maybe they just use wood pulp anyways this is woodworkers zeitgeist the daily woodworker with nick offerman uh but first jese, before we get to any of that shit,

we're going to ask you what is something from your search history that's revealing what you are. Oh, shit. Oh, you know what I, here's the last thing I Google searched. Ellen DeGeneres is mean. Yeah. You wanted to confirm that or you wanted to get in the conversation? I just wanted to tell Google.

I just wanted to tell Google. I just wanted to tell Google. Like, Google, let me. Yo. Google, I know what you think, but let me tell you what's up. I think you should be talking about this, Google. Ellen DeGeneres is mean. That has been the word around the campfire. Yeah.

In Hollywood circles. It is. I don't think I've met a person who's worked on this show in a creative capacity. Who has said anything different. That, yeah, that it's like oh i love it yeah they're like it's it's pretty bad they're a little aggressive i don't know i mean here here's the thing so i've i've been watching game of games lately for whatever reason right hulu and she and you know like i you know we're in the industry so we can kind of start to see through sure like fake

niceness yeah you can tell like she's just doing the job right which is fine like we're in the industry, so we can kind of start to see through fake niceness. And you can tell she's just doing the job, which is fine. Which is fine. That's hosting. She is supposed to do. She's doing the job. But I just wanted to be like, yo, I wonder is this on the internet? Is she mean? It is.

People have written articles about it. Oh, okay. But then there is one defense that they came to her, and I was like, all right, I can feel that. Which was what? Which was like, she's a 61-year-old woman, and everybody just expects her to smile and dance all the damn time. It's like, how many 60-year-old women just get walked up to and be like, yo, dance for me, monkey.

Like, whoop. Now, but, but, the flip side to that is, that to fans like fuck a fan yeah uh be nice to the people who are working for you and run through you and shit like that man could you imagine me 61 and having that expectation it's wild even in my 30s i'd be like please don't ask me to smile or fucking do anything yeah dude it's wild i just knew she was mean because she looks so good like she doesn't look like she's 61 so i figure she's like gotta be doing some dark arts i had a reaction actually when you said 61 i was like what the fuck i know dude it's wild she looks fucking she looks great she looks great her and tom cruise are doing some weird rituals together.

Scientology. Scientology. Yeah. What is something you think is overrated? Overrated? Celebrity love. Celebrity love is overrated. Okay.

Which isn't that big of a revelation. Drop the bomb. Drop the bomb on that. Celebrity love. What do you mean? Collaborate. Our love for celebrities. Our love for celebrities. Our love for celebrities and our love

for celebrities. In many ways. One way is like the parasocial aspect of people loving celebrities and then thinking you know them type thing. The second one is let's take Bagel Boss for instance.

How this nigga acted terribly and now he's getting like celebrity signings to fight and shit like that and get in and this is way beyond just oh this was a viral video uh and it's deeper than that even but just the way we're willing to jump on popular shit and people and hype them up like they're important. Yeah, every bit of value you can. It's so insane, dude. And then even beyond that, like the entitlement. Think about, I was on Twitter. There's this wrestler called, her name is Naomi.

And somebody was like, yo, you're a a mean ass i tried to get a picture with you and you didn't take a picture with me and she was like well first of all that's because you were calling me about a wrong name four or five times you were calling me carmella which is a white wrestler and i'm a black wrestler uh and two you like forced a camera in my face and i still took a picture with you and you wanted to take another one, and I didn't let you. Like, that entitlement is so crazy. Like, you're a celebrity. I make you.

So, like, everything about it. Like, it's so crazy. Both sides of the transaction is so wild. Yeah. Isn't Bagel Boss, he's supposed to fight another celebrity? Or another viral celebrity or something? Yeah, he signed a deal. Yeah. i'm actually

having people over for the pay-per-view uh yeah event in my house you got a viral video miles you want to fight him oh man i'll fuck that dude up dude i would love to fight him i would love to fight him but it's not a fair one it's not i have literally a fucking foot of height on him yeah so you know like i would pay to see... I would pay to see it. I would pay to see it. Yeah. Psych gang, where you at? Put the purse together.

You know what? I could fight him with only my legs. No arms. I'll kick the shit out of him, bro. Just doing those moves from Bloodsport. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

I'll bottle cap challenge the shit out of him. Yeah. I mean, I think people do, you know, tend to, like, that's a thing that people say, that, like, we're too obsessed with celebrity, but I don't think people respect how bad it is. Like, I mean, it might end up being the thing that brings America down

because of, like, who our president is. And that's just, you know, it's, it's a glitch. It would be fitting though. Right. You know,

sadly, I just don't want to be here to witness that terrible fall. You will. I mean, we're in the midst of it, but you know, like all the founding fathers and all the, like the shit that America was built on was like not giving any person so much

power. And our, our whole system now is like designed to just like turn these people into gods yeah are you a star you want to rule everything exactly though I mean Kanye knew no one man should have all that power it's true it's true and Kanye went and down ever since then yeah what the fuck Kanye said that was like unless it's me unless it's me not Unless it's me.

And then he dyed his hair. What is something you think is underrated? Y'all ready for this? Bacon. Oh, wow. Wow. Underrated. Sir. Let me tell you something about bacon.

Let me tell you something about bacon. Uh-huh. Whoever edited this, whoever's editing this, put some music under this. Put some music under this. Let me give you an O to bacon real quick. Let me give you an ode to bacon real quick. Let me give you an ode to bacon. Ah, bacon. Everybody says they love you, but do they really?

Vegetarians, you offend me. Not really. Because you don't like me? Damn. This anger inside of me is feeling like heat. Bacon, I wake up in the morning, stomach growling. Go to the refrigerator, see a piece of pig. Ooh, my mouth is howling.

I put it on a skillet, four, five pieces. Damn, you know what I'm feeling? I'm feeling chocolate like Reese's. Bacon is so good, I can eat it all day. Breakfast, lunch, or dinner. I can even eat it with bae. Whoa. Bacon, bacon, bacon.

Snap your finger, snap your finger, snap your finger. Bacon is delicious, man. Bacon is delicious. You just found that out? No, I knew it. But I just want people i listen everybody says they love bacon but bacon bacon bacon gets a bad rap for this reason uh we try to cook it in too many different ways like i used to microwave bacon wrong you did i did because it was like it was like it's a shortcut i want bacon but i don't

want to put the time in right and then you also get like all these abominations in bacon, like sugar-free bacon. Sugar-free? There's sugar-free bacon. Wow. If you ever own Whole30, that's all they can eat. Oh, wow. And all these other bacons. And you know what?

Just give me some good bacon. Put it on the skillet. You can eat about four or five of them. You like crispy? Hell yeah. Four or five packages? Yeah. You like four or five of them you like crispy hell yeah four or five packages uh yeah i like crispy i like i like rubbery i like uh i like i like i like everything in between that shit can almost be raw i don't care medium rare i love it a bit of a medium rare bacon my fiancee was eating bacon the other like last week and she choked on it uh which sounds

terrible but like it was really it was too loose like it went down the wrong it went down like we we were at a brazilian we were at a brazilian barbecue joint and it was turkey wrapped bacon and turkey wrapped i know wait it's delicious turkey wrapped or bacon bacon wrapped turkey well i was like wait hold on where is this place yeah yeah and she ate it and like started choking on it because one of the pieces of bacon wasn't cooked like too hard so it went down the wrong throat uh or the wrong whatever and she pulled it out it was scary and then immediately start eating bacon again i was like that's why i love you there you go like you

choked on that it almost killed you the thing that came out oh yeah that would have been i don't love nothing that much we're looking at on the plate you're like so you're not gonna eat that you're not gonna eat that bacon okay somebody's too good you want to keep that ring on your girl someone heimlich's it and you like right jump directly catch it in your mouth let me tell you something dude when she started choking it put so much shit in perspective for me that I'm not equipped to help anybody. She started choking, and all I did was get up and start patting her on the back. That's pretty good. And start yelling, help! And I was like, yo, if we were alone right now, she the one who got the shit out.

She dug in her damn throat and pulled it out. Wow. I was like, I ain't do a damn. If it was up to me, you would have been dead. I thought you said, all I could do is I got up, I got pulled it out. Wow. I was like, I ain't do a damn. Like, if it was up to me, you would have been dead. I thought you said, all I could do is I got up, I got my phone out. I started recording that shit. You're like, yo, look at her. Look at this girl choking.

You look dumb. You live right now. We live. You look dumb. Keep those hearts going. What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Or vice versa?

Here's a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Or vice versa? Here's a myth. That the Lakers are going to win the championship in the next five years. Wow. They won't. They won't. I'd believe that. They won't. I believe it and I don't believe it.

But I can see it. I think LeBron's championship run is over. The well is run dry. I think the well is run dry. I think it's going to be a whole bunch of salty-ass Laker fans when the Lakers don't make it to a finals for the next two to three years. And I can't wait for it. I can't wait for it.

And this isn't even LeBron hate. I don't hate LeBron. I've actually come around to LeBron. I'm not rooting for him because he still kicked my ass so much as a Bulls fan. But I don't root against him either. Like LeBron is a guy. LeBron is the GOAT. But has he softened your view on the Lakers because he's on the Lakers?

He has made me hate the Lakers more. And that's mostly because of Laker fans. That's paradoxical. the Lakers more. And that's mostly because of Laker fans. That's paradoxical. Right, right, right. It's mostly because of Laker fans. Like, you got the greatest player in the past 25 years on your team. And y'all still trashed. Second best. After Kobe.

See? See, Jack? Get out. Exactly. And they still trashed. They had AD and Kawhi didn't come. and Laker fans were still mad. Like, y'all got AD two days ago. Right. So because of that, that karma. Well, I think, you know, and I say this, and I've said this on Culture Kings, too.

There are two types, I think, of Laker fans. They're the ones who got in, like, in the Shaq-Kobe era and thought, well, this is going to be a dynasty forever and this will always be a winning team. It's the new Patriots. And then you have people like me, locals, who have sat through fucking desert droughts of the Randy Fund era right after Pat Riley to Del Harris and those other coaches.

And I was like, for a while, I was like, I like the Lakers, but we don't win or whatever. Fuck it. And I think also, too, but the people who are so gassed up where they're just like, the Lakers are infallible and they should be the greatest team and they need to be here and blah, blah, blah. Fuck all these other teams.

Like, no, it's too toxic and it's not realistic. It's not realistic. And I guess that's what it is, too. If you're not, if you can't be, I mean, look, obviously being a fan of a team, you can't really be objective. Yeah. But at least understand where we're at in this sort of evolution of the team yeah then yeah and then and then too here's an argument that i hate where i'm like i hope y'all don't win shit for long as is whenever they throw out

like the man we got 16 championships man six of those championships came before people knew how to dribble a basketball right like i don't get no fuck about them championships from the 40s and 50s and 60s. They're like, why do you like George Mikan championships? Watch George Mikan get crossed the fuck up. The Minneapolis Lakers. They're like, get out of here, man. Is that true? That's where some of their championships were?

People were fucking Naruto running on the court. The 10 championships came during the Magic era and 10 came during the Kobe era. And those are the 10 that are added. The other six were like the Jerry. You mean five and five. You mean the Showtime. I mean, sorry, five and five, which makes 10. Right.

Like the other six was them George Miking years, the Jerry West years. Now, those teams are good. Right. But they also suck bad. Right. Hey, rings are rings, though. Rings are rings, though. But like, I don't want to hear the 16.

Like the whole 27 Yankees championships. Yeah, 27 rings, though. Rings are rings, though. But, like, I don't want to hear the 16. Like, the whole 27 Yankees championships. Yeah, 27 rings, bro. Yeah. Like, don't. I'm not counting any championship before black people were allowed to play baseball. The game was changed. The game was changed. And I think you say the same about basketball, too.

It's like, well, what was the percentage of black people in the league? Yeah. Was that the NBA? Yeah. Or was that a rec league for white people? I do have to say, since you were talking about droughts in Lakers history, the Lakers have the shortest droughts ever. They do.

Sure. Even after Pat Riley, Magic took the Lakers to the finals against Jordan. And who'd they lose to? Jordan. Yeah. But then when the Bulls were in last place for a number of years, the Lakers had Kobe and Shaq. No, I guess more like my expectation i don't get as fucking angry like i feel like the

fucking world owes me a ring or something where i think people that's a function of the dynasties that have existed before yeah where i'm like yeah shit ebbs and flows right so when it's fucking and for me i get nervous when i see all these like Like, if we got Kawhi, I was going to be more nervous because the Lakers don't do great when the roster on paper looks really good. Typically, those have been some awful fucking teams. Yeah, I mean, they're favorite. Granted, Kobe and Shaq's different, but like the fucking Carl Malone, Gary Payton fucking fiasco or Steve Nash and Dwight Howard.

I'm just like, I remember at the time I was like, here we go. Right. And then I was like, here we go. Right. And then I was like, oh, no. And then them boys got mollywhacked by the Pistons. That's right. By the no superstar Pistons. What a weird team. What a weird team.

All right, let's take a quick break, and we'll be right back with some non-NBA conversation. back with some non-NBA conversations. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017 was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation

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Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.

From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?

This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.

I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them. Why is that? Just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her.

What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back and uh as of yesterday i feel like trump so like ivanka got to him or something because he's the the headline on drudge yesterday morning was trump turns on maga Trump turns on MAGA. This is what? Oh, in regards to the send her back.

Yeah, because he said he was, quote, not happy with the chant. Could have been louder. Could have been a lot louder. And he also said he had tried to cut it off, which the New York Times pointed out is a claim contradicted by video of the event. By him milly rocking during it? Right. The boy was happy. Holy shit.

Asked why he did not stop the chant. Trump said, I think I did. I started speaking very quickly. Whereas, in fact, the crowd roared send her back. And Mr. Trump looked around and seemed to bask in the enthusiastic refrain. So I don't know. I don't know where this dissonance is coming from like somewhere in his life somebody was like this is a bad look or like yeah they're like if you want to even try to pretend you're not a racist right everyone knows you are yeah but if i mean you're running out of

hands to play yeah it's also crazy how bold their lies are yeah like his son the other day was saying some shit about yo 95 of the country agrees with trump i'm just like bro like why you why are you being that hyperbolic like 95 you just made that shit up right even if you would have just said 50 i would have been like yeah okay, okay, but 95%, dude, and you want us to believe that? You just bold-faced lying. I think he was trying to refer to the 90% plus approval rating among

Republicans, maybe? I don't know. But that's not the country. That's a party who is, yeah, sure, 9 out of 10 racists agree. Yeah, it's wild. My chin is 95% there. It's so crazy how he's trying to pretend. I don't get it.

I don't know, man. I don't know. Well, this is, you know, the problem is most of the civilized earth has acknowledged racism as unacceptable. It's bad. So you can't, it's not, there's no way for them to, like, both they can't say racism is bad and we're racist, but not see their own acts as being bad.

It's just a fucking, they're in a really weird place, logically, trying to reason their actions, but deny that they are just, on the face of it, just racist. I mean, here's the thing, dude. I look at it like this. You get a meter of 10, right? And whenever his meter tips over 10, that's when everybody comes and says, yo, you got to apologize for that.

Right. Until that happens, they don't give a... Here's the funny thing. Here's what I don't understand. I wish people would stop saying shit like, yo, you a racist motherfucker and you know it. And then they say, I don't have a racist bone in my body. That's because they don't believe they're racist.

They don't believe they're racist. They believe in everything that they say. And to them, that's not racism. Racism to, I think, a lot of uh white people especially in america is i'm not killing somebody because of their skin yeah that's racism yeah me discriminating against somebody or me calling the police on a person of color because i feel like that's not that's not born out of my racism because racism i think that's the line i think yeah because it's clearly not about speech that That's not racism.

I think acts, I mean, I think that's probably the next fucking frontier for them to fucking forge is just be like, oh, that was a racist attack that claimed somebody's life. And again, that happened in Charlottesville, even though the victim may have been white, but plowed through a crowd of people who are counter protesting racists and just being like, well, you know, they were they I don't know. I don't know. You know, they were good people. That's a bad egg. But if you look at this lot, we're all bad eggs., I don't know. I don't know. You know, they were good people. That's a bad egg. But if you look at this lot, we're all bad eggs.

So I don't know what the fuck you want me to do. Yeah. Yeah, we'll see. It's a very interesting process of, I don't know, regression. We're going to be salty when he wins still. That's the scary part. When 2020 comes, we're going to be salty as his head when he wins again because our side can't get our shit together

all you're going to do is when Nancy Pelosi was like the words that he said were racist all the way across she's yeah her being dismissive of the base of her party it's like

the opposite of what Trump is doing. Well, yeah. I think both sides, like, you know, in terms of Republicans or Democrats at that age, of that generation, racism is still like they don't think it's real to people still. Right. That's why it's easy to be like, no, it's not racist. And for them, they don't like for Pelosi. It's like, I mean, it's bad, but, you know, whatever. We'll get past it. Rather than seeing like many people in the country see this shit are like, yo, this is a fucking this is terrible. Right.

This is the fucking beginnings of going, you know, 100 years back instantly. And, you know, maybe we'll go 300 years back. 400. This is the thing that gets people shot and killed. Yeah. The street. Especially in like now, especially with this fullourt press on vilifying Ilhan Omar. It's just fucked up.

And you'd think that they would do more to speak out against this, especially when the government will even take actions against companies or people in companies who would behave this way. But again, you know. Well, it's hard for me to take nancy pelosi seriously when a week ago she was telling these four congresswomen to sit down and go your place right you know so so like i don't want to hear i don't want to hear your your fake uh uh rebuke of trump yeah because because you know what trump is doing he using your actions and putting them in his

goddamn tweets. Just like Nancy Pelosi said. Even Nancy Pelosi thinks these women are blah, blah, blah. And it's like, yo, you're giving him fuel to the fire. So shut your ass up. Yeah. And, I mean, the Democrats are asking for increased security for Ilhan Omar. And, I mean, rightly so.

Because that was fucking terrifying just the visceral like anger and hatred in the crowd when he just mentioned her name so scary shit and we're yeah we're already going down that slope just like many fascist countries do where we begin saying who's an American and who's not an American right well Bill Barr who Well, Bill Barr, who is, you know, Trump's attorney general, and I think the answer to the really terrifying question people had of, like, what would it be like if Trump's administration was actually competent? Then we'd really be fucked. Bill Barr is actually very good at doing the evil he does, and, like, with this uh the asylum legislation they're trying to get past you know i was listening to national security commentators saying that like that is actually a really shrewd

and smart way to do the horrible thing they're trying to do uh basically from a legal perspective saying that other countries need to you, take people who are seeking asylum in or at least deny their asylum claim. Or, you know, people have to seek asylum in the countries they pass through. It was like a very shrewd, horrible move. Well, yeah, because they're just trying to end the process for people to legally seek asylum in this country.

It's like, no, no, no, that's not really happening anymore. Trying to end legal integration. And these are things that have been, like, fucking like the un and shit right but you know use a tricky legal shit to to completely shut the borders down so speaking of being good at being evil uh bill barr it turns out was donating to was donating to senate Republicans leading up to his confirmation hearing. Yeah. He fucking five months before. He's always blatant with your shit.

Yeah. He's always been, you know, a supporter of the Republican party. Obviously, like a lot of these people donate their money to the, to these different groups like the NRSC, which is basically the fundraising arm for the first Senate Republicans.

But very interesting, his contributions to these groups fucking surged around the time, like from the months leading up to Sessions' resignation and in the five months ahead of his confirmation. He gave $51,000 to the National Republican Senatorial Committee for a Senate confirmation of his nomination. Which is, here's the scary part about that. I hear that price, $51,000. I'm like, damn, that's a lot of money. But to these rich-ass people, that's like me saying, yo, Miles, here go two pennies, my nigga.

All right. Put Elizabeth Warren in office. Like, that's nothing, bro. That's nothing. Well, I think because they have to, like, you know, I think that's his intent, right, Sean? I'm like, look, let's do this. Like, here, I'm going to give you guys some money. Who knows what other people he said he could get to donate as well. Yeah.

To do this because these are the senators too, who can influence the administration to nominate him. And, you know, a lot of people will be like, well, you know, of course he gave him money. Like there's nothing suspicious going on. I mean, there is like, when you just look at this, right, he was donating on a schedule, giving 10K every month on the third of every month. And that continued until he was confirmed that shit's crazy man so that was just 11 days after his last contribution now they gave

back thirty thousand dollars but i don't that makes no difference to me i think you see what's going on and look there's no you can't really point to any real explicit quid pro quo for this but if you even look at it like jeff sessions loretta lynch eric holder they were never even they weren't even doing shit like this like granted they have given to campaigns but never like anything having to do with the senate before a confirmation hearing or any kind of other hearing having to do with their work and the other shitty part about this is what bill bar is doing isn't technically illegal it's just fucking suspect yeah that's the sad part it's like guess we need laws to

enforce shit like this we need to like actually make this a law to be like hi if you're going to be confirmed for a position to be top cop uh don't fucking grease the wheels or whatever the fuck this is i mean hey you know in 15 years when all the movies and the documentaries and shit are made about this administration yeah and we really find out how much illegal and underhanded and under the table shit that has been going on uh it is i i can't and this is this is something that isn't new i'm sure I've probably even said this. But the fact that a president like Obama was reamed from wearing a brown suit and you get shit like, it's like these people are so corrupt

and it's so crazy. Or imagine if Obama had a fucking golf part, like a stripper golf party at his business while in office. Right. It's crazy, bro. But again, this just shows you how partisan

some of these people are. There is no objective good or bad. It's just like, there's our side. And whatever the fuck we do is good. Whatever y'all do is bad. End of story. Right. From an outsider's perspective,

it would seem like the mainstream media has an extreme rightward bias because Republicans get away with this shit and Democrats don't get away with anything. They're held to a much higher standard. But viewing things from inside, people have somehow convinced themselves that Fox News is the only place with a right-word bias. Yeah, I think one other thing to add, right, is like with Bill Barr, you know, the kinds of what the DOJ has been doing with him. Like him saying,

we don't need to prosecute Eric Garner's murder. Right. You know, like that'll be my call. I'll do all these other things. I can do the fucking dirty work. And now when we realize there's a report that came out that when Hope Hicks was interviewed by the FBI because because they're like she claims she didn't know anything about stormy daniels hush hush money payments at all and then it comes out they're like well we have like a lot of evidence

that sort of contradicts like what she was actually saying um and now it sounds like hope hicks will not even be charged for anything in the southern district of new york because you know bill barr is sort of like yeah let's just let's let's keep that out of the out of the spotlight. Right. He's not supposed to be a partisan actor like that's right. Like an attorney general is not supposed to be bipartisan. Right. Yeah. To not be doing shit just to. Yeah. I mean, I think the fact that we even have to ask that question shows you how far things have shifted.

Right. That guy is not supposed to. Right. I mean, I think the fact that we even have to ask that question shows you how far things have shifted. Right. That guy's just not supposed to. Right. It's not the president's attorney. Here's what I truly believe. I think technically anybody like him or even once you get to the offices of the presidency, you shouldn't be partisan. I know that's a radical fucking idea. Right. But Senate, House of Representatives, yeah, sure. Republican, Democrat, split it up. Who cares? radical fucking idea right uh but senate house of representatives yeah sure republican democrats

split it up who cares uh i get that checks and balances but when you get to that part of the office and you get to the part where like you're supposed to be overseeing everything yeah uh and i know that's a very unrealistic point to aspire to i get. Don't come in my mentions like, but Jack, he's... But it's bipartisan. It's a two-party system. I will find you. But you just want something like King David or King Solomon. I don't know who those people are, but yeah. Who's the dude in the Bible who's like, we'll cut the baby

in half? Remember that? That was Solomon. That's what we're talking about. You want him to threaten to kill all the babies in America? I mean listen listen you know it's fair listen fair is fair do we really need babies really any babies how long would it take for earth to cease existing if babies stop living if babies stop being born watch children of men is that what that movie is about great opening great opening scene yeah but i mean we were just talking about the fact that it does seem like and i i think in the past and again this is just like baseline setting

like stuff that used to be obvious to us but presidents used to be like supposed to be above the fray a little bit and not like get into these like slap fights and partisan bickering and shit and yeah we were just talking actually before we recorded like trump had some you know first he did the claiming that he wasn't fond of the racist chants at his rally and we were like wait why is he doing that and somebody else pointed out that he had like victims of religious persecution in the white house and you know they were like isn't that weird that he had that and And it's like, well, but that's what you're supposed to do as president. Like that's the very basic,

like you're supposed to just be a symbol of America and not just like a partisan, like, yeah. I mean, granted it was the emptiest of gestures to have those, but there was a Rohingya person who was asking him, he's like,

do you have a plan to help my people? And he's like, where's that at? Right. So it it's like where's your people all right earth take it easy bro it's wild man i and and to the uh i was thinking about this just now how even though like we've been partisan with presidents obama the bush's the clintons and stuff like that i i can't remember like even bush wouldn't get in like these little squabbles and shit that trump is and i don't know if it's just like because of the social media era we live in so it's a lot easier for somebody to just write their goddamn thoughts down well yeah but i mean he at least there's a there's a sense of decorum that even the worst of presidents have had in the past like

50 years. But Bush was just sort of secretly taking away our freedoms. Right. He was on the surface like, I will act like a president and then I'll let these goons do the darkest shit. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. But listen, we know everything is better in the shadows, y'all.

Right. Well, speaking of things that happen in the shadows, let's talk about the 50th anniversary of the moon landing. It's tomorrow. It is one of the greatest things ever accomplished, or so they told you. So our writer, Jay McNabb, did a little bit of a deep dive, gave us a history on the moon landing hoax, uh, because, you know, the idea that it's a hoax or are we acknowledging

that this is a hoax? Uh, I guess we probably shouldn't tell people just yet what our take is. Right. We'll let the evidence speak for itself. No, no. I'm just saying we shouldn't reveal just yet, uh truth that we as hollywood uh insiders but uh yeah so he wanted to like kind of look into you know how how this idea got started one really wild thing is that so they were talking about how the first book that came out came out in 1974 it was a self-published book called We Never Went to the Moon!

America's $30 Billion Swindle! Damn, it only cost $30 billion? Yeah. In those dollars. Yeah. A lot of people got rich off that thing, man. Where'd that money go? Follow the money.

But they pointed out that in July 1970 1970 so just a year after the moon landing 30 of americans already believed the moon landing had been faked without shit being out there like published publicized people were like man that looks fake i don't know i don't know man that seems far away a lot of religious people were like that too my grandma my grandma don't believe in the moon landing. She said it was something done to make people not believe in God. Right. It's wild.

Oh, like to acknowledge space and the expanse of it all? Yeah. Oh, okay. I like that. Yeah. His evidence, the author of this book, Bill Kaysing's evidence, is that you can't see stars in the photos. That's it?

Yeah. That's one of his big pieces of evidence. And the reason for that is there's more direct sunlight in space. So they couldn't get the proper exposure to show it, but that's, you know, gish gallop. Mr. Photography. Yeah. That makes me sound like I'm a real nerd. And he's like, yeah, blah, blah, blah. Well, do you want me to expose to this background or do you want me to expose to the foreground, the subjects in the photo?

Okay, I can't balance the ISO shutter speed and aperture to get this right. Kaysen's book was actually the one that suggested that it was secretly Stanley Kubrick that shot the fake moon landing. Oh, he was the OG guy? Yeah, he came up with that. And the other way that this got started was this-

We all know. Russian propaganda. The haters. Russian propaganda. I would just say it too. Yeah, because they didn't want their people to think that they were getting their ass beat to the moon. So they started spreading that in Russia, and also it made its way to America, and a bunch of Americans were like, huh.

Because they were winning space wars up until that point, right? Russia was. The U.S. passed them during that time. During that time. Yeah. Although, I mean, it's worth noting that a lot of the Russian space program was just like, it was helped by their complete lack of concern for human life. They would just fire dudes into the sky and you'd hear them on the radio just be like, oh God, I'm burning up.

Who did they send up first? Was it a dog or a monkey? Oh, I thought it was a monkey. I think Americans sent up a monkey and they sent up a dog. Okay. Yeah, it's just wild bringing it into the modern day. Trump has been talking about a lot of space missions. Space force.

But he also, like a lot of his homies, think that the moon, like Roger Stone said, the moon landing was a hoax shot in a warehouse in New Jersey. Alex Jones claimed the footage was Tinker Toy stuff. And even before he took office, Trump seemed like bizarrely focused on sending astronauts to the moon. And people were like, wait, do you

think we've already done that? Do you know we've already done that? And he we never really got a clear answer on that. And he, we never really got a clear answer on that, but he switched to Mars after a Neil Cabuto piece was like, we could do bigger things than go to Jupiter. Go somewhere we've already been.

We could go to Jupiter. A dozen times. Do people, do people who, and I'll let you know where I'm at on this. Do people who, and I'll let you know where I'm at on this. Do people think that just the 1969 moon landing was a hoax? Or they think all of the times we went to the moon? It must be, right?

Because, like, fine, if you think the first one is a hoax, that's cool. But acknowledge that we've been to the moon. Because they went, like, a few times after fired a laser at the moon and had it bounce back from something they left up there right right right to like prove it they were just like fine assholes here we flew up there we left a fucking mirror there boom yeah like yeah okay whatever whatever i guess yeah i mean i wonder i understand like the religious argument of how you would rationalize it because that might completely fuck up your whole worldview. Yeah. To be like, wait a second.

Now I'm questioning my place in this heaven, the universe, or whatever. And the Russians are just haters. Right. No, y'all didn't go up there. We'll tell people because our brand is really fucked up right now. But I don't know. Are the other people just on, I guess, maybe flat earthers?

I'm curious what that Venn diagram is of ideologies that overlaps in, no, the moon landing wasn't real. For the three episodes I listened to the Joe Rogan podcast, I heard him be like, I don't know, man, you look at a lot of that footage, there's some things that don't make sense. And, like, those are just, like like pseudo-intellectual bros. Yeah.

But also, yeah, there's a lot of shit that don't make sense. First of all, it was shot in 1969. A lot of TV that we watch now from that time don't make sense. That shit was terrible. TV was just bad then. And then also, they were shooting shit in space. I'm sure that whatever laws of physics apply to filmmaking

on Earth might change in space. There's also like a three second shot that everybody associates with the moon landing and there's like there's all these other pictures that nobody really has seen that have come out that make it clear they're on the moon.

And you can see it from different angles. And it's not just that one picture, but that's just the iconic one. And people are like, well, look at the flag. It's not waving. that is just a good example of how up its own ass Hollywood is, is Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin got their own Hollywood stars. And it's in the category of TV. They're real TV stars.

And Michael Collins too. All four of them did. Let me put my LA tour guy hat on. All four of them have it. And they put it in the TV category because up until well, that's why, but up until I think still to this day it's the most watched television program of all time.

That's just funny to me. So that allowed the loophole for them to be in it. I mean, that's great programming. That's great content. You flag out of the moon and shoot them putting a fucking flag up there? I know, but what people don't know Netflix is thinking about that right now. It's like, okay, man can we fly out of the moon and shoot them putting a fucking flag up there? I know. But what people don't know. Hot damn. Netflix is thinking about that right now.

It's like, okay, man, can we get somebody on the moon again? Can we get somebody on the moon? What they don't know is Neil Armstrong was the person on Earth, but up there was really a young Morgan Freeman. What? In that astronaut suit. Yep. That's at Hollywood Insights, a young Morgan Freeman.

It's his first movie role. His first TV role. His first movie role. He was about 69. One giant step for mankind. I mean, that would have been better, man. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist Thank you. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhearts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks.

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This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better listen to the making of a rivalry caitlyn clark versus angel reese on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast and we're back a couple quick things off the top uh very important it's gonna be hot as fuck this weekend so stay cool what they say two-thirds of the country is basically yeah it's just blanketed in like all-time highs uh and the lows are like all-time high lows the drudge headline uh for this is the heat goes on June toastiest on record

July may follow toasty is a nice way to describe the end of the world and also we just wanted to mention that McDonald's

needs to get its shit together and invent a chicken sandwich that's on par with Chick-fil-A because the franchisees they're angry franchisees are pissed.

They're saying they're getting killed. They're like, we need a premium chicken sandwich. You ain't getting killed, man. Y'all got 5 million McDonald's around the world. Chick-fil-A got 12. Chick-fil-A is on the come up in terms of fast food franchises. You know what's crazy, too, about that? They're getting the Taco Bell.

I can imagine how that makes you feel shitty. Even if McDonald's is number one and Chick-fil-A is number eight or nine, the fact that a restaurant that has 90% less stores than you and closes for an entire day of the week and still is on your fucking heels. And they're still gaining on you. And they're still gaining on you. I can imagine that makes you feel some type of way. It's like me fighting Bagel Boss Guy with my arms behind my back.

All right. I want to talk about something called the Alpha Zero Paradox. There's an article in The Atlantic that is Henry Kissinger and a couple of other luminaries talking about how the world needs to start getting ready for basically the singularity. Eric Schmidt, one of the founders of Google, and somebody named Daniel Huttenlocher. And in this piece, so they're basically talking about the singularity, like where computers get so smart that they're making moves beyond what we can even conceive of. And in this article, they talk about this thing called the alpha zero paradox.

That is one of like one of the most terrifying, but like interesting examples of this that I've heard. So, you know, you know how that like artificial intelligence, learning how to play chess is always a thing, and that a computer could beat one of the grandmasters of the Ku Klux Klan? No, of chess, at chess is...

Be David Duke? Yeah, I mean, the man himself. Are they called grandmasters? Grand wizards? Grand wizards. So grand. So dumb shit. Yeah, but chess people are called grandmasters? Grand wizards? Grand wizards. So grand. Yeah, but chess people are called grandmasters. Anyways, that was always like a big deal.

So they taught this computer like the rules of chess and then just had it play itself for 24 hours. And it became, in 24 hours, became the best chess player in the world. and it became in 24 hours became the best chess player in the world it's better than a grandmasters better than any of the those like highly publicized chess playing computer programs in the in the past and the difference about what they did is they didn't give it any any of the data of like how humans have played chess up to that point they didn't like teach it any like chess strategy or anything. They just taught it the rules and then just like let it go to like figure out how to play it.

And it's the, the way it plays chess is like how like people would consider it wrong. It's they're like, no, that's not how you play it, but it's better than everybody. They, uh, so it's like making moves that to a chess champion They're like, no, that's not how you play it, but it's better than everybody. Also, it's like making moves that to a chess champion would be like,

pfft, okay. I'm about to kick your ass, baby. Cut to checkmate. They say it's like chess from another dimension. That's what the champions are saying? The expert says, yeah. I want to play it and see how quick, how long I can last. I'm terrible at chess, so I'm sure if I got high, I want to play it and see how quick, how long I can last.

Yeah. I'm terrible at chess, so I'm sure if I got high, I could maybe battle it, too. Because I'm thinking outside the box, too. I'm thinking outside the box. Computer. I've been playing chess every night for the past, like, month and a half to two months, just to kind of, like, make my brain sharper. Like, I'll play before I go to bed, like, on my phone.

And the computer annoys the shit out of me. Right. Because, like, I'm up here taking, taking like 60 seconds, 90 seconds in between moves, and I make my move in the computer in one second. Because no matter where I go, it puts it into the formula. And it calculates like, this is the best move, one second, each time, each time. I don't know. I found this interesting for a couple of reasons.

A, because we talk about the zeitgeist here. Daily. And in something as conceptually concrete as chess, all human learnings and assumptions were getting in the way of the truth. And I think that's a good metaphor, a good thing to keep in mind when you're thinking about like how the world sees things, how people are talking about things. Uh, it's, that is a lens that is refracting like everything you see. So it's not, it's not the truth in a lot of ways. It's causing us to miss a huge part of the truth. And, you know, we obviously have a dramatic example of that

with the 2016 election. And we've spent the last three years trying to explain how all of human wisdom and all the press and all that shit got it wrong in only like a few people. Actually, no. And not all. Yeah. How all the mainstream media got it wrong.

I'm waiting for sex to go ahead and tell us the truth about sex. A machine? Yeah. It's like y'all are fucking so wrong. Y'all are fucking so wrong. It'll take five minutes. Yeah. Three seconds and both people can.

Pipe bot is ready. Teach us. Teach us. Teach us what we don't know. But the other thing, I mean, that's kind of what they were talking about is this is just one example. Like people always used to talk about the singularity, like this point at which robots and like artificial intelligence goes beyond human understanding is like this one event that would happen. Right. All at once. But it seems like it's happening kind of piecemeal.

And this is an example of the singularity happening in chess, like where it's just making moves beyond human comprehension. And that seems like a thing that shouldn't even necessarily be possible. You should always be able to like understand the logic of why someone is making chess moves because it's a finite game. It was a game created by us too right like it's not it's not science it's a game that some body hundreds of years ago decided you know what i think the pawn should only move one or two spots i think this horse should go and like that's just somebody who decided.

But I think that's a good example of it. Because it's finite and concrete, we're seeing what's going to happen with everything else in AI. Just there first because it's kind of a fixed field. But the article says we can expect comparable discoveries by AI in other fields. Some will upend conventional wisdom and standard practices. Others will merely tweak them, and they'll all leave us struggling to understand. Consider the conduct of driverless cars stopped at a traffic light. When cars driven by people inch forward to try to beat the traffic, some driverless cars will join them, though nothing in the rules of driving given to them suggests they should do so.

If this inching forward has been learned, how and for what purpose? How is it different from what people are taught and learn about waiting for a traffic light? What else might AI learn that is not, quote, telling us? And they make the point because AI can't explain back to us what it's doing. Right, what it's thinking. Right. AI can't explain back to us what it's doing. What it's thinking. I feel like there's going to be a lot of examples like that where all of a sudden

AI is spitting out decisions that seem crazy to us and then we have to figure out, we have to decide whether to trust it or not because the AI is not going to be able to tell us why. Pretty soon people will be bowing at the altar of some fucking computer right yeah tell us i mean the scary thing like kissinger

you know who had to deal with richard nixon who thought it was a good idea to you know nuke vietnam uh kissinger talks about how you know, what happens when we start running international relations decisions through AI or checking it with AI, like, will mutually assured. Well, you know, mutually assured destruction has been a great deterrent up to this point when it comes to using nuclear weapons or not using them. But, like, what if AI is like, nah. Don't worry, they're pussy. Set that shit off. I mean, I just rewatched iRobot like a week ago. Yeah.

And that movie is good. That movie is good because it talks about... Yeah, Isaac Asimov had some ideas. Yeah, it talks about that in a very basic way, basically, but like the three laws where a robot can never harm a human, must always listen to a human, and must always protect. Always drive an Audi. And must always drive a dope-ass Audi.

Yeah, right. But then the computer starts to learn. It's like, well, we're trying to do all this shit, but you guys are fucking it up. So the only way we can protect you is to control you. Yeah. And it's wild how true that is. Like the only way it's like we're babies.

The only way to protect a baby is to absolutely control it. Like shit we do to babies, we wouldn't do to an adult generally yeah or some adults pay to be treated like or some adults yeah yeah yeah treat me like a baby but yeah so it's wild man it's wild that we are dumb so if we start keep creating shit that is going to be smarter than a lot of humanity right eventually it's going to be like, y'all are fucking dumb. Yeah. I need to fucking take over. Yeah. Fucking this whole thing

up. We keep creating shit that learns. Yeah. We just need to create something that doesn't know self-preservation. Right. You do that, you do that, and then if it starts getting too bad, you'll be like, you know what, robot? Kill yourself. Right. And it won't be like, know what robot kill yourself right and it won't he'd be like my

bad my bad but uh that uh podcast sister podcast uh sleepwalkers was talking about how people who study like how it's basically uh training and like decision manipulation uh how to get people to make the decision you want them to at stanford uh so they study like dog training methods and they also study you know human like skinner box stuff like how to get people to press the button you want them to and those are the people that invented instagram like people who like came from that class. So like that's, you know, we're already being controlled by technology that is like basically in our veins, you know?

So it doesn't seem like it's going to be this overwhelming thing where Skynet becomes self-aware. And I think that better happen. The world just starts bombing itself. I think it's probably going to be much more seductive and much more slow than that. Who among us doesn't have a fantasy where we're watching our children play at a playground

and as the nuclear blast comes, we're holding onto the chain link fence as we're vaporized. And get disintegrated. Yo, honestly. All been there. I didn't stick around for this long to not be destroyed by robots. To be destroyed. Right.

I would rather we all die like that. Yeah. Just instant. Instant. Everybody else dead with you. That's the part about death that I don't like. Is that I'm dying and leaving everybody behind. The FOMO.

The FOMO. The FOMO. I'm like, damn. What am I going to miss? I'm the and leaving everybody behind. The FOMO. The FOMO. The FOMO. Like, damn, what am I going to miss? I'm the opposite. I want people to mourn me. I want to be a ghost and watch them. Right. Fucking haunt them.

All right. Let's talk about foodie calls, Miles. There's a new study out. Yeah, very imperfect study. In the world of science. Yeah yeah it's called foodie calls when women date men for a free meal rather than a relationship it basically sort of concluded uh very inefficiently that women who go like this read this let me read this out loud found that women who go on dates with someone they are not interested in just to get free food are more likely to exhibit the dark triad of personality traits these traits include

psychopathy narcissism and machiavellianism machiavellianism i don't even know that word yeah that's for yeah all the tupac fans machiavelli yeah i don't look first of all it sounds like it was written by the bagel boss guy or an incel. Right. But they're basically describing a foodie call. Just basically you going on the date because you have no romantic interest whatsoever. You're only there for the free meal. Right.

And apparently this happened because researchers were seeing like this was like a new trend that they were like, OK, what what what does this tell us about whatever? That they were like, okay, what does this tell us about whatever? Okay, so their sample group was they recruited 820 women. 40% were single. 33% were married. And 27% were not married but in a committed relationship. 85% were heterosexual. And in their first experiment, they found 23% of women had engaged in a foodie call.

And they did then like, you know, maybe it was rare or whatever, but they had. And the second group, they found that 33% of participants had also engaged in foodie calls. A little bit higher than the second one. And this is all self-reported? Yeah, exactly. And for both groups, they say that the ones who engaged in foodie calls received a higher score in the dark triad of personality traits. Okay, now I don't know how fucking sound this is but there's one thing i do know okay i think people just fuck with free food yeah um also uh i think this is this could be this study could easily be done with men as well and i think it's just sort of like if

there are men who think just because they pay for a meal, they should fuck. It's a fuck pass. Right. In that case, by all means, foodie call the fuck out of these people. Right. But yeah, it seems like an interesting thing. Personally, I can say that I have been foodie called when I was dating in college. I just thought Shorty was also high like me, had the munchies and just was always like, hey, can we go eat? And then I was always forgetting her wallet right uh but you know foodie calls is a big thing with uh on twitter i'll always

see uh i mean this may not be a foodie call but like chicks or yeah mostly chicks who say damn who want to post makes me some taco bell right now i'll send you a nude uh but they give you they give i mean that's transactional that's transactional yeah this is not just like yeah yeah yeah i'll go out on a date i don't know self-reported shit i just feel like that could be people who are more aware of themselves like part of the people who are saying they've never done a foodie call might just be people who never admitted to themselves that that's why they dated somebody. And then you have to ask yourself, like, do people who score higher in that dark tetrad, like, are they just more willing to tell on themselves and more like in touch with their own like darker personalities and if that's the case do they are like if you're more aware of your own like darker side are you better at controlling it than somebody who's just like lying to themselves

yeah i mean again i'm pretty sure this was a study commissioned by incels it just doesn't you know make sense but again i mean just think of how many times just what the allure of food does to people right in general right like how many times have you asked the question is there gonna be food? Before, like, someone invites you to some shit that you're not really totally interested in?

Right. Because fucking food is tight. Yeah. Food is tight. You know, every time, like, my family is big, like, what are we going to eat? Right.

When we get there. Exactly. Like, I don't know. Like, we need to eat before we leave. Yeah. Like, we ain't leaving before we eat. Or think of how you used to get, like, in college when you're kind of broke, when you're like, hey,, I don't know. Like, we need to eat before we leave. Like, we ain't leaving before we eat.

Or think of how you used to get, like, in college when you're kind of broke, when you're like, hey, and I'll feed you. And like, you're like, help me move, and I'll feed you. You're fucking there with bells on. You got a fucking hand trolley and everything. Fucking moving truck. I'm past that point in my life. Yeah.

You want me to help you move? For food? Pay me money. Yeah, exactly. Like, money. There's only like maybe four people in the world who all go help move without you know asking for food are they all family yes all right my mom and my mom and my mom right right i had a family member just be like

when we were moving into new york we're like hey come on over we'll like order pizza he was like yeah you know i made a promise to myself I'd never help somebody move after the age of 35. So I'm not going to do that. And I was like, shit, damn, that's a good policy. I think I'm going to do that. Yeah. Well, it depends on what the age of the person is, right?

Right. Because if it's someone who doesn't have a lot of money and you can do them solid, then I don't think there should be a sunset on you know acts of kindness but if it's someone that's like 35 and like has their shit together i'd be like why the fuck are you asking me yeah go fuck you know what it is if it's somebody who last week i saw your ass on instagram at a bar having a drink yep yo ass paying me to help you move like exactly. Exactly. Because I get it. We all broke. If your feet isn't top ramen all the time,

then look, maybe you can do something. Yeah. Jaquese, it's been wonderful having you here, man. My goodness, guys.

I have just been thrilled. Where can people find you? As always, you can find me in these streets, y'all. And on everything at Jaquese Neal, J-A-C-c-q-u-i-s-n-e-a-l uh culture kings y'all culture kings come listen if you haven't come back if you've left keep listening if you do so good and is there a tweet you've been enjoying

all right i got i got right, I got three tweets. I got three tweets. All of them are pretty quick. Two of them are Scarlett Johansson tweets. Like from her or about her? About her. Yeah, not from her. I love her tweets.

I love some Scar Jo tweets. One is from atvengerassemble. And it has a picture of, well, the tweet is, Marvel has always had good CGI. But this in-game shot where you see ScarJo's two characters in the same shot is brilliant. And it's a picture of ScarJo sitting in the rain and a tree in the background. Love it. Love it.

Love it. The second one is a retweet from the Daily Show they retweeted The Hill where The Hill has a tweet

that says white GOP lawmaker says I'm a person of color and the Daily Show tweets

Scarlett Johansson's bravest role yet I'm white. White is a color. Yes. And then the second one is also, my last one is also

a retweet from at in in a jamma I-N-A-A-J-A-M-A and they're retweeting Game of Thrones congratulating

Kit Harington for being nominated for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series for the Emmys. And this person tweets, he doesn't want it. Which, you'll only get that if you're a Game of Thrones fan.

Shout out to Benioff and Weiss ducking out on the Comic Con panel. Oh yeah, they do. And the official, they could have just said, yeah, look, we are not interested in the smoke, so we will actually just say we have a production conflict.

Yeah. I don't blame them, man. I'm like, yo, man, this shit is done, bro. What do I got to say about it? Yeah. Let the fans know what the fuck you were thinking.

I guess, man. I guess. It's not going to satisfy him. No, not at all. It won't satisfy. So really, you're just putting yourself through. Yeah, but I love it.

I want the walkers to come get them. You want that heat? You want that tea, man? Oh, man. I want a fucking whole mess. Speaking of Comic-Con, Tom Cruise just dropped a Top Gun sequel trailer on everybody at Comic-Con. For real? Yeah.

Wow. I'm there for work. I like Top Gun. All right. Miles, where can people find you? Find you. Follow. Find you. Find me. Wow. I'm there for work. I like Top Gun. All right. Miles, where can people find you? Find you, find me, everyone. Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Grey. One tweet, or no, a few tweets I like.

One is from Steven Rubino at Shrubino. Now that Louis C.K. is done, it's actually okay to steal his jokes. Anyway, my daughter fucking sucks. What else? What else? What else? Another one is actually from Dave Schilling, who basically was quote tweeting. Actually, no. I'll just actually just go to the actual tweet.

So Dave Schilling quote tweeted a tweet from Sam Sanders at Sam Sanders, which his tweet just said, it's like an Onion article. And it's from the New York Times Magazine that was like sort of putting out there like it was sort of like, have we hit peak podcast? And it was talking about sort of like the industry at large. And it shows this one woman sitting in a chair. It says, Morgan Mandriota's show, The Advice Podcast, was short-lived. We assumed we'd be huge. And this is her saying, we assumed we'd be huge,

have affiliate marketing deals and advertisements, she said. And it goes on to basically say how this, they said six episodes in when neither Casper Mattresses nor MeUndies had come knocking, the friends quit their show. And then just sort of going through how,

like a lot of them, it's sort of this new mentality, which I understand like, because the joke is everyone has a podcast, like literally everyone in this room, but how many people are just sort of believe that, okay, I'll put something out, regardless of quality

or what it is, and then I think it'll be international. Right. Yeah, yeah. It's a very complex game. Put it out. Part one. Part two. Become famous. Part two. that's not how it worked damn i quit i quit a few tweets i've been enjoying logan trent uh at the logan trent tweeted how much more sense would it make if logan and jake paul were both ran paul's dumb

fuck kids uh jen statsky tweeted you mean to tell me Cameron Diaz dated the mask And Shrek Okay someone's gotta type And Phil Jameson Tweeted Dad is a palindrome but a father is a pal at home Hey champ how was school Wow

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that I played a long time ago Thruongkin they have very vibey vibey music I think that's from Texas but they had a new album come out recently and this is a track off their Ruanquen. They have very vibey, vibey music. I think that's probably the title.

But they had a new album come out recently, and this is a track off their called Hasta El Siena. Until the Sky. Or Until Heaven. Is this the one that was performed by Jeremy Renner? I think so. He got a song? I think he's on the remix.

I also might be getting that pronunciation. It's Jeremy Renan. Oh, that one. All right. That's going to do it for this week. We will be back next week with another season of The Daily Dyke. I still want to talk to you guys then. Bye.

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