The Daily Zeitgeist - 9/11 But Snowballs, ALLEGED Sex Toys 02.26.26

Episode Date: February 26, 2026

In episode 2013, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, Karl Hess, to discuss… Pray For The NYPD Officers Who Were Subjected To A Dusting Of Snow, WHAT’S IN THE BAAAAAG? Nick Shirley Is Up To His BS In CA…, The Hottest Trend In Movies Is Actors Who Aren’t Actors, Is TCM Using Old Movies To Secretly Roast Trump? And more! Pray For The NYPD Officers Who Were Subjected To A Dusting Of Snow Crowd Throws Snowballs at Police in NYC Mob torments NYPD in epic snowball fight Huge Snowball Fight in New York Escalates After Police Arrive 4 wanted for allegedly pelting NYPD officers with snow and ice in NYC park WHAT’S IN THE BAAAAAG? Nick Shirley Is Up To His BS In CA… The Hottest Trend In Movies Is Actors Who Aren’t Actors A+ State of the Union counterprogramming by TCM. People Can’t Believe What TCM Aired Instead of Donald Trump’s SOTU Speech Will You Light the Gas Please?: A Brief History of the Term Gaslighting and the Movie Behind It Turner Classic Movies Airs Full Day Of Anti-Fascist Films After Trump Inauguration Four Years After Trolling Trump, TCM Celebrates Joe Biden’s Inauguration A Sneaky Way to Protest the Trump Inauguration, Courtesy of Turner Classic Movies TCM airing A Face in the Crowd on Trump Inauguration Day TCM Screening ‘The Most Significant Political Films of All Time’ (Exclusive) The Warner-Netflix Deal Is Worse Than You Think LISTEN: Pack Up Ya Bags by KTmelodiesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

And then can you just double check we're not coming out of your laptop speakers just right now? Check check check. Say something about Carl. I bet he can't hear us. I bet he has no idea that we're talking cat shit about him. Carl has terrible taste in food. Carl knows nothing about wine.

Carl's taste in wine is pedestrian. Pedestrian at best. I'll say it. He thought a pet nat was an animal. Yeah, you're not. You're not. Oh, we're not. Okay, good.

Because we weren't saying anything about that. You didn't hear anything about that. Okay, you're not. We weren't saying anything. about your taste and wine. Sorry, that took forever. He didn't hear it. He didn't hear it. Good. He didn't hear it. Oh, my God. I got so nervous.

Yeah, I got, I definitely felt I got in over my skis there. Talking shit about Carl's wine taste. We were trying to talk shit in a way that if you heard, you'd react. Oh, right, okay, right. Yeah. This guy's palate is absolute garbage. Yeah, that's what Jack said your taste in wine was pedestrian. Right, there you go. It's the worst thing.

I said talent. I said you thought a pet nat was an animal. Okay, that's good. That's good, too. Yeah. Yeah, there we go. I actually don't know what the fuck I mean. I don't know what that means either.

It's okay. I'll explain it to you guys. Yeah, that was straight down the barrel for Carl. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. This is Special Agent Regal. Special Agent Bradley Hall. In 2018, the FBI took down a ring of spies.

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on Monday's episode of the iconograph the ones in the feed with icon in the title It is Thursday, February 26th, 2026th, happy birthday to my seven-year-old son, now eight. Nay, nay, seven-year-old. Wow. My youngest is eight. They say you're seven until you're eight, you know? They do say that.

That's like a big sports. Does that like debate exists in like sports talk in the U.S.? Or they're like, well, he's like, like if a player's like 29, they go like, well, he's 30. And they're like, no, he's 29. And then people like, he's basically 30 years old. And then there's always like this thing that always people say, like, in talking about European soccer, like, well, he's 29 until he's 30. So that's, you know, right.

Because some countries celebrate your second, like, Oh, no, not even like that. Oh, really? Not even like how even like the Korean calendar used to work like that. Or you know, like it's more purely like the fact that someone is just a year away from 30 means everyone just describes this person as 30 as an athlete to be like. Well, the guy's 30 years old already. It's like, one of the 29.

That's fucked up, man. Anyway. You're 7 to your 8. Anyway. And also, shout out National Chili Day. Shout out National Toast Day. National Small Dog Day. Don't you have a small dog?

I got a damn small dog now, man. I got a teeny little dog. National Letter to an Elder Day. National Set a Good Example Day. You're doing all these things, man. I'm doing all these things, man. This day. I fucking own this day.

And you know what's funny, because it's also Carpe DM Day. Carpadium. Carpadium. That's what my exoskeleton is made of. Carpadium. Hell yeah, dude. All right, my name is Jack O'Brien, A.K. Director said, what about Mickey Rooney in yellow face? Writer said, who could possibly want this?

Producer says the Japanese Chamber of Commerce. Exactly. Historically, well, that's the one thing we got. That one courtesy of new Chris, deep blue something, The Breakfast of Tiffany, I totally thought that was like, I don't know, one of those bands, you know, Matchbox 20 or something, deep blue something. I blame them for being a one-hit wonder with that name. I get it. I get it. It's a miss.

It's a swing and a miss for me, Doug. But anyways, that is in reference to the fact that they are making a movie about the making of breakfast at Tiffany. no word yet how they're going to handle the Mickey Rooney and Yellowface part of that production. Kind of a big, kind of a big question. Tell you,

I really believe they're so, they did not consider that at all. Oh my God, I didn't even think about that. Of course you didn't think about that. Because let me guess. Let me guess how you guys are. Let me guess what you look like.

Thrill to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Hey, man. It's Miles Gray, A.K. So I'm making a movie with Sorbo and Kane by exploiting some kids so much to gain. And I scream for the top of my lungs. Go, what the fuck?

What the fuck is that? Thank you to Ty Torres on the Discord. I see a lot of Kevin Sorbo Improv-A-Ks in there. And I'm going to get to them because the fact, man, I still, after we were done recording, after we were done recording that episode, we probably continued that bit. Spend another half hour just doing the same thing. Losing our minds, imagining how bad Kevin Sorbo is at improv. Yeah.

Any recommendations from the crowd? Yeah. Pineapple? Pineapple? Oh, this fucking pineapples. What the fuck? This thing's fucking stinks. This isn't a scene, Kevin.

I think, do we do a bomb? Was that on the mic? Because then we said he had a bomb, he had a gun. Yeah. We had so much. You got a bomb and then he holds up a handgun. Yeah. Justin said it was on there.

He's Jesus. Yeah. Jesus on the cross. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Why do you always have a handgun? Anyways, Miles. We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by very funny comedian and writer who has

been called an all-around good time fun wine boy by the takeout. Please welcome back to the show. It's Carl Hay. Oh, my God. So happy to be here. Oh, so happy to be here. Oh, my God. I wish I actually had a little song to sing right now.

You should tell your guests to come with a little song to sing. Well, we can tell you have a little song in your heart. Yeah, and that's all the matters. And I always have that when I'm on the show with you guys. So that's just a given, really. Yeah, baby, that's what it is. Also, you may have been confused by the A.K.A. at the beginning, but Kevin Sorbo and Dean Kane, they're making a Christian film in which parents can pay $1,600 for the kids to do a film camp, but really they're going to be extras in it.

They're just working on the movie. Yeah. You pay the production $1,600 for quote-unquote film camp. But, like, we were laughing because one, the schedule of, like, one of the days was an hour. You're going to do an hour of improv with Kevin Sorbo. And we're like, what the fuck? What the fuck? What the fuck?

What does show business dying? Come on. It's just changing. It's just changing to things where you get to hang out with Kevin Sorbo. Yeah, bro. You get to- Do a terrible improv. Go to Piven experience.

I don't know if you caught that one. Carl, but there's for the kind of actually a steal. $150. You can sit at a table. That's low. You can sit at a table with

Piven. If you get like the Hollywood power lunch experience with Jeremy Piven. Kind of, yeah. I don't be a restaurant. You have to pay for lunch, of course. But you know, you get an appetizer. You get a Maine.

And a license plate. Isn't there a license? It comes with a license plate too. A dessert included license plate. included, cash bar, available. Available? They should have to buy

Jeremy two drinks. They should change that to avail. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Amazing. Well, we're thrilled to have you back. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.

First, we're going to tell the listener to a couple of things that we're talking about. And right up top, we're giving prayers out to those NYPD officers who were subjected to a dusting of snow in Washington Square Park

was that yesterday? Yep, yeah, yeah. It was awful. It was awful, man. Scary stuff. Can't believe they're so brave, you know, going out there and letting snow hit them. Has any police force ever complained more

than them? Are they like, are they topping the charts? They're like, but I think they're pretty, I think they're just the biggest police force. And so it's just that we're seeing how police forces operate. Right. Well, and also, like, because New York is such a, like,

shoulder to shoulder city, like, you're in the streets with everybody. Right. There's just going to, in the age of smartphones, like, you're just going to get a ton of shit. Like, I see so many videos of people just, like, cooking the cops, like, on the street. You're like, so who's your barber, bro? Who's your barber? And they're like, yo. cops are out here getting cooked. No wonder they're all so sensitive. It's like, they're getting absolutely cooked on a daily basis. The worst city to be guys, like, with how sharp the mouth of New Yorkers are. You're standing in the subway for five hours

trying to get Farivators. You're getting cooked so hard. You, Officer, what's up with your shoes, bro? Oh, shit. Like, there's so many videos like that with like the LAPD, like, you know, L.A. is so spread out. It's, unfortunately, it's like when you're having like some fucked up interaction, because it's

never like, here they are walking by my, like, the park I'm at and I get to throw shit at them. Just a different energy. Can you imagine how good it would feel to connect with a police officer with a snowball. Oh, I can't, I can't even fathom. It didn't seem like it started.

It feels good to do that to a regular person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like blow their little cop hat off. I'd be like, oh my, you knock a hat off? I mean, that's 100 points. It was just like, it was too much. There's a thing in the insurance industry called like a conspicuous hazard, I think it is that I learned about from the Tony Hawk episode where like, if you put something in a situation

where like someone's going to get hurt. Like Tony Hawk got sued for this because he had a huge skate ramp at his backyard. And so people kept like kids kept going on it like breaking their elbow. So he had to like tear it down. But like putting a cop in a park where a snowball fight is happening. Yeah, yeah. That's a conceit. Like you're just bag like it's impossible for them not to just light that motherfucker.

Yeah. You might catch around. That's part of the job. That's right. That's right. Exactly. Anyways, we'll talk about that. We'll talk about, we have an update on the Christy Gnome, Blanky Gate or The Blanket Files story.

Oh, what's in the bag? What's in the bag? Nick Shirley trying his bullshit again, the guy who, like, started the whole Minnesota thing with his, like, fake-ass reporting on that. He's trying to stir it up in Southern California. He's just so dumb, though. It's just, that's what's so sad. It's like it's so dumb yet to me that's enough for people like yeah exactly they're cheating because this guy can barely say the word malevolent. Have you seen that clip where he was talking to.

Malveolent? Yeah, he's like mal malmolent. He's like yeah like having you know what? Never mind. We'll move on. Never mind, man. Hey, from a guy who pronounced on we is NUI. I got to say.

Fuck you. Nick Shirley. You're an idiot. We're going to talk about the new hot. trend in movies, which is casting actors who aren't actors. Sometimes that works out pretty well. And we might even get to Turner Classic movies using old movies to secretly roast Trump, all of that, plenty more. But first, Carl, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

Recently, I dug into a curious case. I had eaten a schnitzel at a really good restaurant in a restaurant beer garden here in Echo Park, where I live. Bia garden. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Owned by a German guy, great German food. And I was like, ah, I love schnitzel.

Like, I don't need enough schnitzel. There's not really a place to get it. And then I was driving by a wiener schnitzel, the chain restaurant. Yeah, the weiner's had. And I realized that Viener Schnitzel does not sell Schnitzel. Right, right. So I Google that. I was like, does Viener Schitzel sell Viener Schnitzel?

Right. And they do not. Yeah. They sell hot dogs and chili fries. So then I went down this, I'm like, is this the only chain that is named for food that they don't serve? Right, right, right. It's like chilies has chilies, you know, they're in there. Yeah.

Like Applebee's probably has apples on the premises. It's not a huge part of the cuisine there, but. Yeah. And I'd give them a pass. I'm like, what's an apple bee anyway, you know? Yeah. Sonic does not serve Sonics. I've asked for some. Yeah.

Well, like, a hedgehog. Yeah, it just, it seems baffling that you would name it Viener Schnitzel and then not carry that item. Right. Yeah, that's what I've been working on. Did we find out because, because a Viener Schnitzel is a pork schnitzel from Vienna. Yeah, that is exactly what that is. And it's the best kind. Right.

So then I'm like, yeah. Well, it's actually veal. I think it's veal in Vienna. Oh. I think that's their special. Hey, okay. But I'll take any kind of shimpan. Or, yeah.

It's just any. kind of schnitzel you're saying it's not like a thing where you're like they do not have viennese schnitzel they don't even have a schnitzel yeah no yeah not available nine nine exactly so you know that a lot of baffling decisions made by that company at the just at the i've never been to i've never been to vener snessel so maybe it's great and like the hot dogs are so good they make up for this i see it a lot i can't imagine that's true just at the pitch stage they're like we're going to do kind of a niche food. We're going to name it after another niche food that we don't sell. And we're going to put it in a building that like we have to build and can we can never resell

afterwards. A wildly impractical structure. Wow. Just call it like the wiener house. You got the A frame. Just call that the winner house. The guy who started it, John Galardi. We first worked at Taco Bell in the early days. And then John Galardi, good eye, good. And he's like, they don't have a bell there. I can do whatever I want. So then, like, apparently then, like, the guy, John Glenn Bell of Taco Bell offered him like a spot to open his, like, a restaurant next to his on PCH. Tago Bell was started by a guy named Bell. Yeah, yeah, it used to be called Taco Tia. That's good. That's good information right there. I know. But anyway, so then, so, okay, so then he's, though it was under the condition that said, Bell encouraged him to take the offer,

but wanted to have Galardi sell another kind of food. Galardi decided to sell hot dogs. According to Galardi, his wife came up with the name when looking through a cookbook. He was initially skeptical of the name saying, I told my wife going home, nobody in their right mine would call a company Wiener Schnitzel. Three days later, I said, hell, it's better than John's hot dogs. I think his first idea was probably on point. John's hot dogs. I mean, you're early enough to the game where, like, you could be iconic just being John's hot dogs.

It sounds foreign. Just use it. Yeah, that's right. It says weiner, right? They're like, yeah, people don't know that means Vienna. I think they're overcompensating for the fact that they're clearly Italian. And so they're like, well, we got to go like hard German with the name because nobody's going to, yeah. It worked out for them.

So maybe she was on point. Yeah. What is something, Carl, that you think is underrated? Something I've been doing recently that I feel is underrated, at least by Americans, is having an espresso after dinner. at a restaurant, not like at my home. Sure, sure, sure. Like, when you're out and you're kind of in that nice part of the meal where like you've had some drinks, the meal's coming to a close, maybe some people are in dessert, but you're chilling. You know, I think sipping a little espresso really facilitates that perfect, you know, end of the meal time where you're really chopping it up.

And also, it puts you in a good place for when you're going out, you know. Spresso martinis can only take you so far. Getting espresso in at dinner at the end, then you don't need espresso martini. And espresso martini, hold the martini. Yeah. Exactly. What's it like going out, Carl? Because like the way you described that, that sounds really cool.

Like at the end and then you drink it. Then you go somewhere after dinner, dude? I need like an espresso after dinner to stay up to like 1230 now. And I'm not talking about, you know, like I do like a late Euro style dinner that starts at nine and goes like 1030. ish. I respect a late dinner. So I think it's an element of the late dinner. Right. And then it's an element of the table hang and that's like, all right, well, we're going to go to another bar for a few more drinks. I'm glad I had that espresso because I'm very tired. Right. Right. And it's 11 p.m.

right now. I'm digesting. I stayed up until 1230 on Saturday night and it fucked me up for like three days. You have children. I don't have any kids. No matter what. They're of it. Six o'clock. Don't do this if you have children. Only do this. If you're in your late 30s or early 40s and you have very few responsibilities. Yeah. And you're not overly caffeine sensitive because I remember like one of my friends was traveling. And like when they when they were brought in Europe, like they had their first like post dinner espresso. And they're like, I shouldn't have fucking done that.

Like I was just like I was. They're just like them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just like wired. Because like the jet lag plus the espresso just turned them into like fucking like night owl person. And they're like, I got.

Yeah. I'm the other way like. night of their lives though. Yeah. I'm the other way. I'm so insensitive. Like I could probably drink like a fucking pint of espresso after dinner. And I'd just be like, all right, I got to go to sleep, man.

Give me out of here. You can drink a whole Kirkland cold brew fifth. So I'm calling it a problem. But you call it a gift. Yeah. Miles made the continent shift. Carl, what is something you think is overrated? You know, this might be unpopular currently.

But I'm just going to go ahead and say the Olympics. I think maybe because I'm thinking ahead to when the Olympics come to L.A. Yeah. And I'm just like, fuck the Olympics. Like, I don't, it's always a nightmare for any city that it comes to. They use it to give more money to the cops. They use it to displace homeless people and vulnerable people. No city is, you know, the IOC is like wildly corrupt.

Yeah, yeah, for sure. You know, it's like, yeah, we won hockey. And now, you know, all those guys are just. hanging out the state of the union address. It's like, okay. Yeah. I don't know. Especially the chairman of the LA Olympics,

Casey Wasserman. Yeah, at least we got the FD files. Everyone's like, you've got to step down. The IOC is like, we're standing by our bowl. At least we got like one of the Mount Rushmore of Epstein files. People like we've already given like, yeah, like LATD is already getting like weaponized robot dogs. Like what are they going to get when they meet we have the Olympics here?

Oh, man. They're going to be flying on hover packs or something. some shit. There's aspects of it I enjoy, but I feel like the Olympics, it may have you got to go. We're going to spend so much money on it. And yeah, I feel like it could be better spent elsewhere. Every block in L.A. will have its own bespoke LAPD helicopter hovering over it at all hours of the day. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah. And they'll refuel in midair, so they're never down. So cool. Yeah. Yeah. I think I'm just thinking of ahead to the L.A. ones and how it's going to be a nightmare. Oh, my. I don't even know how they're going to do it.

airport's so fucking small. They're still trying to figure out how to get everything connected. I just, it's going to be a fucking nightmare. Yeah, and it's like, yeah, curling's fine. I watch them, but it's like, well, I did. Suffering has to happen for this.

Yeah, for you to slide rock down ice thing. At what cost? Yeah. Because, I mean, you always see like those like listical things where they're like, look at these Olympic venues now five years later. And they're all just like in some terrible state of. Max. Yeah.

I don't think it's great for any city. Also, it's like, L.A. is L.A. We're already a global major great city. It's one thing if it's like, you know, it put Barcelona on the map in 92. It's like, okay. Well, we don't, we don't, we need less people. Yeah, no, Carl Lewis put Barcelona on the map in 92. That's what the fuck I'm talking about.

Dan and Dave. Oh, wait. Yeah. Those guys just. Just Dan, right? Fucked me with the last name. O'Brien. I was riding off of that and like whatever grade I thought I was fucking with Dave because I was named after Miles Davis and I used that very tenuous connection to be like, oh yeah. And Dave is all me, baby.

One of them had the last name O'Brien. And then my best friends at the time were guys named Danny and David. They were brothers named Danny and David. Oh, man. They really got a lot of use out of that. And then they blew it. They fucking blew it. What the fuck? I think that's a good, I think that's a good overrated. I can't imagine much good coming out of this. I guess just fuck Casey Wasserman really is. Yeah, that's the, the crazy thing was like, I think didn't Karen Bass was like,

yo, he needs to, I feel like he should resign. And he was like, still in charge. Nah. Yeah, he's like, I'm good. Like, and this is, it's like, that's shit like this where you're like, bro, there's fucking, like, nothing matters. anymore. If this guy is just really going to be like assert that he's like, well, I know him before. Well, the thing is I know.

David Galane Maxwell. Yeah. He was like, well, I knew I, this was all before the 2008 conviction. So like, I have plausible deniability. It's like, look at the Epstein files. The crime span fucking starting the fucking 80s and shit. Right. Yeah. Like, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. All right. We'll see you. We'll see you. It's, it does feel like, yeah. America is just turning more and more into. Russia and we're like this I'm just trying to picture because like the the anecdote that always sticks with me about Moscow under Putin is that like the rich travel in ambulances so they can just like cut through traffic right and like I feel like that I feel like that's coming to L.A.

Well that's like how Miami is. Yeah. Yeah. I mean like they're always like inexplicable, like every time I've gone there to visit family, there's like inexplicable police ex escorts and nothing's happening in the city. You can just hire them. Yeah, they're just, they're just fucking tapped in. So they just, you know, demand it. And I'm like, okay. Yeah. Seems bad.

All right. Yeah, well, let's take a quick break. And then we'll talk about how we fight back with snowballs. Buddy the elf style. We'll be right back. Hi, this is Joe Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast, where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a mini-driver.

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The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapses. I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast, Doubt the case of Lucy Letby, we follow the evidence and hear from my story. the people that lived it. To ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Lettby was. No voicing of any skepticism or doubt. It'll cause so much harm

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And we're back. Mm-hmm. And look, it's being downplayed by their mayor, not my mayor. but their mayor of New York, Zoran Mamdani. Wait, who's your mayor? Eric Adams? You don't have to ask.

Eric Adams. It's my man, Eric Adams. Yeah. Camdenu Cuomo. Magical city. It could be a 9-11. I don't know where. It's a magical city.

Hey, everything I learned about parenting, I learned from Eric Adams. I will say that guy was really funny. It's so funny. In retrospect, like, we got a hand to that guy. It was pretty fucking funny. Inexhaustible source. of just what the fuck moments.

And you're like, this guy's fucking mayor. Because like animal could easily hide a handgun. Handgun. Look at this backpack. He had a bazooka launcher in it. And he has weighed in and said that this attack is disturbing. Oh, of course. They're saying that several officers have been taken to the hospital with head, face, and neck injuries.

Again, it was like we saw it. We saw a video of it. we know what happened to them because we watched them get hit by snowballs and just be and just look angry and the only violent thing that happened was like when they fucking like tossed a guy there were two guys that got fucking yeah yeah because it's funny right wingers like have you seen the whole video have you seen the whole video and i'm like have you yeah the officers were freezing we had to give them hot cocoa immediately yeah right is there is there is there i have you i haven't seen any of these injuries though have you seen a picture of the lacerations at all are they really saying lacerations or someone was saying like

I could have that could have just been some someone just cooking shit up on Twitter but like they're like the face so I think someone said that they were snowballs capable of splitting skin and I was like yeah fucking anything's capable of splitting skin if you're and also if they were they would have

split the skin because they were getting fucking wrecked yeah and also they would have showed it. There was one guy who got hit and he was like, his hat blue, like was kind of, his beanie kind of shifted. And he was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. But again, it's like, when you read about people with head, face,

and neck injuries, I'm like, are you talking about people peacefully protesting when the NYPD's around? Right. Or is this, oh, that happened to them. You would think that, like, the police would relish this because they could just pick up snowballs and start throwing it back. Like, that's what they want. Yeah. They want to launch projectiles at citizens. And it's like,

if they just, you know, we're like, oh, we were just doing it in the snowball fight context, they could, they could do what they want. I think if they threw back, though, if they threw back, I think their response would be so disproportionate. Where they're like, everyone would be like,

oh, you're throwing them back? Wow. You know, they start throwing back really hard and probably, like, get some rocks in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Disproportionate force is kind of their ammo. Yeah, yeah. Just, oh, man.

I mean, like, that, these are just people using non-lethal munitions. Less, less lethal or not. It was less than lethal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They just looked so peltable, just walking through there. Just like, yeah. Again, I saw like some right-wing, you know, fucking propaganda account on Twitter,

I mean, like, here's the whole thing like, before the cops were actually letting them have fun. And it's like, I don't know, the cops are just kind of like, it seemed like the cops showed up and like kind of gave up on trying to even do anything about it. And they're like, yeah, do your thing. But then the mood turns. when you're around during a snowball fight,

and then you're going to get hit with snowballs. Also, do you have to be there to supervise a snowball fight? Just let people live in their winter wonderland for a second, God's sake. Yeah. Well, I think it was because there were people going to like, the police were called because of a disturbance in the area. And you're like, hmm, that's interesting. Because I also just saw a clip of people in Central Park

throwing snowballs at cops. And it was very fun, fun. But it's like, you get a bunch of young people together and, you know, kids of color. Then it's like, disturbance there. There was something disturbing about this particular group. I couldn't really tell what it was, but it really scared some New Yorkers.

The New York Post called it, wrote the headline, mob, torments NYPD. In epic snowball fight? In epic, it's got a way around. You're still describing it like a fucking frat event? You're like, in epic snowball fight, though. It was pretty epic, dude. But that would imply that the cops did throw back and like held their own. They just walked through, like, getting angrier and angry.

Yeah, yeah. Look, you're a catharsis doll at that point for people to just get, just, you know, people are blowing their steam off because the cops fucking suck. So, you know, there you go. Take a couple, eat a fucking couple of snowballs, okay? Because you're out here just fucking straight up killing people most of the time. It's called public service. So, you know, that's kind of part of it.

You know, they're just under their breath being like, well, you're under arrest. I'm going to fucking shoot. Well, you can tell in the one video, like, the cops wanted to. Yeah, I mean, he threw two people. Right. But you thought, I was like, oh, is he going to arrest them? And he's like, nah, this fucker just wanted to be like, yeah, fuck you, just throw you in the fucking snowbank. But yeah, there were times like where they were trying to walk away and someone would just get them too clean, like on the back. And then they would turn around and then be like, I'm going to get, but they don't know where the fuck the snowball is coming from.

A snowball is like a legal loophole because there's not much other shit you can throw at someone. and it's technically not a salt. Snowball, you're like, there's no evidence. That's already dispersed. Carl, they're trying to remove that because their Ted Cruz said, this is disgusting. I'm amazed that NYPD officers continue to go to work with a mayor who disrespects them so much because Zaramam Dani said the highly controversial statement,

that looks like a snowball fight to me. Yeah. Yeah. Gotta love this guy. From the videos I have seen, it looks like a snowball fight. and people are like, what? What do you mean? How?

How? Perfect way to handle it. You mean that snowball fight? You're talking about that snowball fight? It looks like a snowball fight? I like how they're just like also like there's some like dudes that kind of like clearly like some like volleyball size snowballs. Like we're looking for this man. I'm like this guy didn't even look like he could throw that shit.

I know. But there's a, it's funny because one of the New York PD accounts was spinning the snow day to do like cop. And be like, hey, kudos to our officers who are at the Juniper Valley Park. And they're like, look at these two poor sign officers on their snow sled here. Like, it's funny to how in the right context, they want to use them fucking around with snow and be like, this is great. Look, they're part of the community. Not there. His gun just went off.

Yeah. He shot himself in the leg. All right. Everybody out. Everybody down. Yeah. Oh, shit. I do, I do wonder if that.

if any of them accidentally shot themselves. Yeah, there were, like, videos of the cops participating in snowball fights. It was just one where they came and, like, walked through them. We're like, hey, watch it. And then everybody predictably turned dark. You watch it. Have you seen kids? Yeah.

Yeah. Pick up a snowball and get involved. Yeah. Have fun or don't. I have a feeling, though, because that's just such an infuriating context to be a police officer in is like where it's like I kind of have to let these people fucking get one over on me and laugh at me which which is like the antithesis of why they want to be a cop it's like i got into this to not have people be able to do that and for me to be able to shoot people in the face when they do

that to me yeah exactly and it's like the fact that i got it like look that one dude just kind of tagged it with one and they keep going back and forth they're like oh this guy's about to get hit he's going to turn around like which oh that's it see that's it see that's And now the cops, you're like, what are you going to do? Nothing. You're just going to get hit more. He just walks up with his chest out and his arms like puffed out. Like, what do I do?

Yeah. Oh, well. You love to see it. Because the other fun thing is when you see cops getting hit with like water guns in the summer in New York. That's like another type of video where they're like, they want to shoot them. But they're like, I can't. They're driving through the Bronx and they're just fucking throwing buckets of water on them. It's fucking amazing.

You're like, dude, it's kind of. truly from my understanding from videos I see of this, that's part of the gig if you're on YPD is getting absolutely pelted with shit. Yeah, that's your penance, guys, for all the people that you've killed. For all the fucking money you're taking. Yeah.

Okay. The people you've killed and then the overtime you collected while you waited for, to be not charged for killing people. Look at your overtime. You can get a few balls. You know, come on. You'll be able to put 22s on your Dodge Challenger. Don't worry, do it.

That's right. All right. Let's talk about, we have an update. on the Christy Gnome, Corey Lindowski situation where, so basically there are rumors that they're having an affair. Corey Lewandowski is like her number one aide. And people are just saying that like all around they're kind of tough to deal with. Yeah.

They say that the affair is the worst kept secret in D.C. That's like constantly what people say. Love that. People like mocked Christy Gnome like online because she took her husband to an event recently. that's not Corey. Who's that? Who's this guy? Who's Brian?

They can be so mean at those DC cocktail parties. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you hate to see it. But like, to recap, right? Like, Noam and Lewandowski were on, they had to, they were on a plane. They had to switch planes due to mechanical issues. And once they were in the air, Corey Lewandowski, like, goes into the cockpit, allegedly, loses it on the pilot for forgetting Christy Noam's favorite blanket?

Yeah. And then he was like, you're fired, you're relieved of duty. And the pilot's like, all right, asshole, I got to land, though, because that means I literally can't fly this plane right now. Like, if I'm fired right now, then we're landing. And then, like, him and Chrissy know, like, fuck it, fine. Just fucking get us back or whatever. Just let's just forget about this.

And a lot of people, like us, people are like, all this over a blanket? Like, what the fuck? Luckily, the Upton Sinclair's of the 21st century over at the Daily Mail, did some digging. And according to three people they spoke to at DHS under the condition of anonymity, there's a little more intrigue here. One of the insiders said, quote, this was never about a blanket.

The blanket was a cover story for what really happened. The whole thing was really about the bag that was left. This article was on Lundaski had discovered at least two people were aware of the contents of Nome's bag, which could be embarrassing, the mail reported, citing sources. And we don't know what's in the bag. We don't know what's in the bag. What's in the bag? But here's the fucking thing, right?

So they were saying the insider said there were two people, at least two people who were aware of what was in the bag. Now it's interesting because the fired pilot Keith Thomas was later promoted to a DHS to a DHS senior advisor's position. But I've had a sense of what's in the bag? Maybe. And then Nome's aide from the Coast Guard, like a, a lieutenant commander named Cameron Jones was also like subsequently awarded a Legion of Merit Medal like very publicly. So a lot of people are like, I think these people might, I think these people might know what's in

the fucking bag because like they're suddenly like being elevated. When they asked the Daily Mail tried to ask the pilot what was going on and he kept a professional. He said as a military officer, I do not comment on past or current missions. Wow. But we can wildly speculate. We have two people who are in an alleged affair, like sloppy alleged affair. Yeah. There's a bag of stuff that got left behind for their flight that they're like,

where's our bag of goodies? Are these sex toys? Maybe sex toys. Yeah, I think your mind immediately goes there, but it's like, sex toys wouldn't immediately incriminate them to, like, she could be carrying sex toys. That's allowed. But wouldn't that be weird if you're like, bro, shit, like, this shit, she was kidded out. And you're the secretary of Homeland Security.

You're like, what the fuck? BDSM kid? Why? Yeah, right, exactly. Like, why do you need this? But I can, because I'm trying to think of what is embarrassing. It's not going to be like anything to do with like pills, right? Like her like go pill, her sleep pill, then her damn pill and up pill, you know?

Like she go to sleep on the plane, wake up on the land. Oh, so we think of like a little like addiction behavior like, we got to get the fucking back now. What if there's like a bunch of coke in there? You know? Yeah, right? Oh shit. I left a lot of Coke in that bag. Yeah.

Shit. Oh, no. Yeah. It's all over the pilot now. What am I going to do? Fire him. Fire him. Oh, fuck.

He knows what it is. All right. Promoted. Promoting. Because remember we're also talking about the new jets they're buying. They have like bedrooms and shit. Like one of the jets has a bedroom in it. Mm-hmm.

So I'm like, if I'm going super salacious, right, they're having an affair. They're like, girl, when we get on that plane, put down that love blanket, you know, the one that's water resistant. I'm gonna get the toys and we about to we about to do the damn thing after brutalizing immigrants we're gonna get involved

yeah exactly like that's where I'm like blanket a special blanket a bag of things that's embarrassing these people seem like they're again they're so out there

with their allegedly out there with their affair that I was like do these guys are fucking just they're just I don't know I don't know what to say about them it feels something like that given our very chaste

a culture around sex anything it's in America where they're like, oh, what if it's just like a bundle of flowers and like a really sweet card from him to her? Just like, you look so pretty today.

I can't wait to see you on the plane. It's, yeah. She's made like posters of her and like Obama from like back in the day. She's like, my president. Oh, God.

This will be so humiliating if this came out. But I don't know. Like I do like the dimension where the Daily Mail pointed out that like two people that were on that flight suddenly were like, hey, you know, you've been doing a great job.

You've been doing a really good job, you know? Really great job. I think you should, I think we, We need to give you some kind of promotion. We need to acknowledge your contribution. You know what I mean?

For being professional. They tried to fire midair. All right. So you want me to land or? Yeah. What do you want me to do? And he's like, okay, if I'm relieved of duty, that means I have to cease. He takes his hand off the wheel.

Okay, okay. You're promoted. You're promoted. You're promoted. You sure? You sure? You sure? Also, I know it's in the bag, Corey.

I know it's in the bag. How big? We don't know how big the bag was because the other thing that came to mind is have you ever seen Burn After Reading? Mm-hmm. And like where there's that mystery about like what is George Clooney building in his basement. Oh, sure, sure, sure, sure. And then it ends up being like a pedal powered dildo chair.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying. Yeah. Like, I don't know. La machina. La machina. Yeah. I don't know.

I don't. Look, that's the, that's the beauty of this. We get to wildly speculate, uh, to a reckless extent. But my, I think I want to, in my mind, based on the narrative momentum of what this couple is, it's it's it's got to be sex shit. I feel like. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely.

Yeah. You also. Or a bunch of coat. Or is it tiny, tiny condoms? Like really tiny condoms. Micro penis condoms. I've never,

no one can find me. Little finger covers for. Yeah. Are you an accountant? Yeah. Are you doing a lot of paperwork? The thing that's giving drugs to me is like to blame the pilot for forgetting a bag. Yeah.

It's like that doesn't seem like that's the, that just. seems like you just blew up on the first person who was in front of you and yeah yeah yeah you know like it just it seems like koki behavior so god not from this not from this administration i know shocking yeah they're also dumb and it would be like so much more funny if it wasn't just like the saddest goddamn thing in the world yeah no exactly like the the architects yeah of just every person in America being afraid if they know someone who wasn't born here or naturalized. It's my life going to completely blow up or shit?

Are they just going to grab me because I'm not the right shade of white? And then suddenly there's, you know, whoa, you naturalized, you're a citizen. Because you see ice agents still asking shit like that. I'm like, that's, that's not relevant. I'm a citizen. Boom. It's not am I naturalized or am I a citizen? I'm a citizen.

Also, there's just arresting people who are. citizens and are naturalized. Yeah, no, exactly. And meanwhile, like, that's why I think, like, all these people, when you watch the State of the Union, you're like, all these evil motherfuckers, like, all of these people, like, when you see Pam Bondi next to all, like, and Christy Nome, you're like, these fuckers really just think it's,

they're untouchable after this or whatever it is. And I know, and I, and that's what's also terrifying, too, is because they must be talking about how they will be untouchable after this. Yeah. Or they're there. Or they're just so arrogant and maybe. And then, yeah, it ends up biting in the ass.

But shit. You hate to see England arresting high political officials for involvement with pedophilia and American not. I mean, we're talking about England here. They run on pedophilia. Not traditionally their strong suit. Yeah. They're arresting people for Epstein connections and we're not. I mean, it's not as low as you can get.

They're trying to do it in like a. a less sort of salacious way where they're like, well, it's because you're transmitting sensitive documents. It's not all the other stuff. And it's not like those guys are going to go to jail either, but still. Yeah,

yeah. A little something. They're at least not being like, guys, can we move on from this? Oh, I have an Olympics to put on, okay?

I don't have time for this. Old news. We've already seen. Come to find out too, like, you know, there are lawyers and this investigative journalist on substack was talking about how

there's like 50 pages of interview. missing from the survivor that was alleging that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein had assaulted her as a child. And people were like, that's a big hole in the document. I'm like, those pages are literally not even there. They're not even redacted. And, you know, this is like another thing we're like, this is, again, because this is all in service of covering up Donald Trump's behavior crimes and everybody connected with him. But like that story, especially, that came out yesterday or on Tuesday right before the State of the Union. But again, most people are like, what's he going to lie about up there? But I mean, now we're talking about, dude, like this, every single thing is pointing to the fact

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Yeah, that's what we'll start with the trend in movies that seems to be taken off this year, which is casting actors who aren't professional actors. I'm obviously aware that that's kind of the thing the Safty brothers do. Marty Supreme has Mr. Wonderful in it. I haven't seen that movie yet, but in like a load-bearing role. But also, so like Tyler the creator is at Marty Supreme. Also, the singer from sinners is mainly a musician. It's not like a professional actor.

The guy with really bad vision from one battle is a musician and, like, professor. Do you know the guy I'm talking about, like, the one who gets arrested, like the first person they arrest once they decide to, like, do the crackdown? He's got, like, Coke bottle glasses. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That guy's great. Yeah. That guy's a professor and a musician.

And yeah, he like really jumps off this. I was like, where have I seen this guy before? Like he like has a real specific energy. He's also in Marty Supreme somehow. So that's just like all stealing from each other. Yeah, Paul Grimstaff. And yeah, I mean, there's new. So the New Yorker just did an article about this phenomenon and like it's history.

And they're pointing out that like this has kind of a long. history. We look back and think of people as actors who, like, for instance, John Wayne was just a prop hand who people were like, I don't know, he might show up well on camera. Joan Crawford was a dancer and a chorus line, and they were like, we like the way she looks on camera. Jason Schwartzman was a 17-year-old high school student with no, even though he's like, I think a Coppola. He's a Coppola, yeah. But he had never come out of nowhere. Yeah, sure. He's the second secret Coppola after Nick Cage. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then there's, you know, like, there's a lot of people who,

you know, Harrison Ford was a carpenter early in his career, but he was also an actor. And a weed dealer. And a weed dealer. I think mainly because he just needed constant weed. They also call out Arnold Schwarzenegger as somebody who like wasn't a professional actor but succeeded on film. I will say that in our episode, our iconograph episode about him, we learned that like he did the Stanislavski in, like method work and like regression exercises. He was like doing like real acting training like hard where like he was like

okay and now you're a baby Arnold and like all that stuff. And I'm opening a present. Yeah. All that to do. Yeah. But great. I think that they were like do try and communicate

but without words. You're a baby Arnold. He would start groaning and being like so that's like where we got. that from. But I don't know. The overall point that I took away from this article is that now everyone grows up with the experience of being on camera. So like whereas in the past, you kind of didn't know if people were going to be looking down the barrel of the camera when they got in there, you know, or just be like too awkward. Now like everybody has some experience of like having to think about

being on camera and like how they're showing up on camera even if you're just you're you're like in have an instagram or yeah you know it's just like it's like kind of like music you know like if if like you kind of have like one instrument slightly out of tune like it can give it a whole other feel to it just because it's like a little off a bit yeah and i know like you know like with tim and eric like early tim and eric stuff and like then nathan fielder like we've seen that comedic tradition too. I've been like, dude, get these like weird people in here and just like, that's it. Because it's so different. They're going to do something weird. It's just so different that it, yeah, it's like a completely foreign quality than to like the polished actor, like, or just all the people from like the chair company, like the side characters. Yeah.

We're just delivering lines like, that guy was at his limit. And you're like, I know a guy at his limit. You're like, I don't, I won't, I wouldn't remember that if like Willem Defoe said it probably. Right. But there's something about just, it's like, it's, it's not that it's bad. It's just so different. And it feels like it's like a, it's like a texture interruption to like the universe of like the film when it's like, oh, this kind of seems like it can be used really effectively like within the context of being around professional actors. Right. Like in a big movie. Right. Yeah. If you're putting that person against a really good performer, a really seasoned performer. Yeah. I think I think I've, I think I've, told the story before, but I once saw Nathan Fielder live at just for laughs in Montreal. And he went up and sang Lana Del Rey in a really weird way that made everybody uncomfortable. But then he just stood on stage, like looked out into the audience and then like picked people to come up on stage and like interview them. And he's like, this is my skill is just being able to like cast really interesting weird people from. just like look at them and be like, oh, this person's going to be really interesting to talk to.

And that does seem to be, I don't know, a skill. And he was really good at it, except there was one person who got up and he was like, oh, wait, sorry, sorry, no, no, no, you're not, you're, sometimes it's hard to tell if a person is interesting or drunk and this person is actually drunk. So you just like sent them back. Right, and the worst thing that could happen at that comedy festival

is if he picked a comedian and they're like, oh, I'm going to be funny. And then it's like, you're going to ruin the whole goddamn thing. Let's do some improv. Why, what's up, bro? I'm Kevin Sorbo. People already know that, bro. It's just some scene work. Let's start with space work, huh?

What the fuck? Yeah, I just, I love seeing non-actors act. It's just like, I don't know. It just, it feels like you're playing a different instrument suddenly. Because we're so used to seeing like really great actors act. And not that they all act the same way, but there's just something. it's like an intangible quality to have someone who's just just a couple degrees off from being a professional actor that you're like this feels like a real person in a film and I think it's probably

because we don't we don't cast normal looking people in anything anymore right you know yeah you see 70s movies it's like a whole different ball game you're like 70s commercials yeah yeah they're like that person needs dental work and that is not the point of the commercial right right right yeah Yeah, exactly. And I think that's... Just a normal-ass person. Yeah. Right.

And I think we're so used to seeing this, like, weird... Because I think that's what's really given way to people talking about, like, oh, this person has iPhone face or whatever in a movie. Because, like, people are, like, very put together, very, like, traditionally attractive. And no one's, like... Like, we're, like, our quirky big teeth actors. Like, we're a quirky big eye, big mouth actor people. Like, just people who weren't, like, the traditional lead, but gives so much more...

I don't know. like depth to like a story when they look, you know, like fucking regular people. Maybe it's coming back around though because everyone's so used to watching like regular non-professionals on their phone now, whether it's TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, or whatever. Yeah. But they're just like, oh, yeah, I just watch non-professionals all day. So you see one in a movie and you're like, yeah, yeah, that's just a person. Right, right, exactly. The guy from Sinners is Miles Katon, who's a musician.

And then they also talk about the secret agent, the Wagner, a movie that got a lot of nominations. A bunch of, like, major scenes have this woman, Tanya Maria, who's just a dressmaker and rugmaker, who the filmmaker, like, met one time and was like, you're interesting. Can I use you as, like, an extra? And then they were so fun to put into movies that they, like, started bringing them back. And now they have, like, a major role in this. I saw, I saw something where, like, she's now, like, a Heineken commercial in Brazil.

Like, yeah. Like, her shit's taken. There you go. Great. Also, all professionals were non-professionals at one point. Yeah, exactly. Like, a lot of someone just needs a shot, baby, a shot at the big time. Yeah, like, I think a lot of people were discovered in weird ways in the past, you know,

where they're just like, I don't know. I like the song that this guy sings. Let's see if Frank Sinatra can star in a movie. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, I mean, like, that's kind of like, I've heard, like, that's how Jonah Hill got an high heart Huckabee's because he. He was going to school with Dustin Hoffman's kid. And then she was like, this kid is the funniest kid of my school.

He's the funniest guy at her school. He's like the funniest kid in her school. And then he's like, all right, give him a shot. Yeah. And now he'll say, I'm not an actor. I'm not an actor. I'm not a comedian. I always love seeing that turn.

People are like, dude, sure, you're an actor. It's not a slur to say you're a comedian. Yeah. Comedians tend to be really good actors too. So you never know. You know who's really fun to watch on camera is David Lynch. even though he's not like an actor. Something about it.

It's very calming. Yeah. He's just, yeah. It's like the opposite of his movies where there's just like an unspoken dread. You watch him and you're like, I'm just happy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I miss the weather report.

I know. It's a wonderful day. It's just like this delivery is so amazing. We're like, fuck yeah, David, this is what we got in L.A., giving us the weather. And finally, in the in the snowballs against. armed cops category of things. We have to give a shout out to Turner classic movies

who are protesting the Trump administration a very quiet but fun way, I guess. During his State of the Union address, they played gaslighting, the movie that, like, started the phrase gaslighting. And they've been kind of doing this for, since the beginning of his political rise. So let me see.

the, okay, so on the day, some people are asking if it's a coincidence, but the full day schedule also conspicuously included films about tyrannical heads of collapsing empires, including the private life of Henry VIII, Marie Antoinette, and Julius Caesar. And before Gaslight aired, they broadcast sunrise at Campobello, which is the 1960 film focusing on FDR's battle with polio in his early political. career. So possibly a reference to his secret medical problems. That one feels like a bit of a stretch. That's a deep cut. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, if you know movies, you know, bro. That's true. TCM. Yeah. Last year, the day after his inauguration, they aired anti-fascist films, including

the Great Dictator, the Confessions of a Nazi Spy, The Mortal Storm, Edge of Darkness, It's just a bunch of anti-Nazi movies. Shout out to TCM, you know. Yeah. Doing the work. Yeah, like, how long is that going to be kept up until somebody catches on? You know what I mean? They're like, what the fuck?

What are they? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Trump would never watch TCM. Ted Turner, Ted Turner would fucking shit himself if he knew. Wait, he's still alive, I forgot. Is Ted Turner still alive? Is he? That seems impossible to me.

He's 87. He's in like a cryo chamber. Yeah. Or me, yeah, exactly. I don't know what he's doing. They might have him literally on ice just to keep him fully, fully. He's getting the Peter's-Tield blood boy treatment for sure. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. He's in a blood pyramid. You got to have a blood boy. And then on the first, on the inauguration day of his first presidency, they played the Andy Griffith movie, A Face in the Crowd, which is about a straight talking. man of the people who, or sorry, it's about a dim-witted piece of shit who becomes a celebrity then uses his populist slogans to sell himself as a straight-talking, virile man of the people, while insinuating himself into the political landscape.

And they were like, huh, this kind of feels appropriate. I don't know. What do you think? Hopefully they'll Turner Classic movies will reveal something about the Pentagon's activity, like the pizza tracker too and be we can glean something more from their programming schedule aside from sadly there's not a ton of movies from the late 40s golden era about pedophilia um so you know they're they're kind of probably scraping the bottom of barrel on that they do there are some good ones they probably don't have access to eyes white shut unfortunately no it is a classic but yeah day i mean to your point david zazelov keeps threatening to ax the channel altogether oh okay so i mean not for that They're just being like,

yeah, they're just like, fuck you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, David,

yeah, you can't wait to see you. Yeah, can't wait to see you soon, man. All right, well, Carl,

such a pleasure having you on the Daily Zikey. Always a pleasure to be here. Thank you guys. Where can people find you, follow you, see you all that good stuff? I'm,

I'm at Carl Hess on, on Instagram. That's K-A-R-H-E-S-S. Hopefully you weren't picturing me as a C-C-R-R-E-R-S-S-all this whole time. That would have been, that's a disaster. No, no, no, no. I kind of got off Twitter in this last year.

I kind of just stopped going on Twitter. My same handle on Twitter. But, yeah, it's really helped my mental health. I can also heartily endorse stopping going on Twitter. I'm seeing all the tweets on Instagram anyway, so it's not helping. Right. In a spiritual sense, you know. Yeah, yeah.

And, yeah, if you're in Los Angeles, I'll be performing at Stories Cafe in Echo Park, The Saturday the 28th, and Nico's in Atwater Village on Monday, March 2nd. Nice. There you go. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Well, this is actually, you guys are so on the news. This is kind of old news for you guys. I was really enjoying the Shia LaBuff, New Orleans, Mardi Gras meltdown.

Oh, boy. And, you know, I love New Orleans. I've been to Mardi Gras multiple times. It's a very hectic situation, and it's very fun. Obviously, Shia LaBuff kind of seemed like a real piece of shit. and totally wrong and everything he did. But I was just laughing. And then I saw a tweet after he had got back out,

he was like waving his papers around. The tweet was a second shy LeBuff has hit Bourbon Street. Someone said they found his fucking ID in the street, too. You know what? I actually 100% posted like his driver's license. We're like, do this? I just found this shit on the street on Burbank's street. So yeah, that was a tweet that I saw on Instagram because I'm not on Twitter,

but whoever wrote that very funny. Urban Street is really just a wallet redistribution mechanism for people. It's just like a way to shift people's wallets between one between the other. I just love a good New Orleans meltdown. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, that's par for the course for that guy. Miles, where can people find you?

Is there a work in media you've been enjoying? Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. You can also find me talking about 90 days. Fiancee on 420 Day Fiance. You can hear me talk about English football footie on A&A Footie. You know, also on Iheart.

So come check that out. I do that with Jamel Johnson and Chris Martin. Great comedians. Let's see. A work of media that I like, there was, it's just hard, it's so insular, but I'll just explain it. So Arsenal won the North London Derby on Sunday.

That's when we played Tottenham Hotsboro. We beat the shit out of them. Four one. And apparently there's a player specifically named Eber Echieza who was going to sign for them, but he grew up a boyhood Arsenal fan. And at the last minute, we said, man, forget them. You want to sign with us, right? And the deal was off and he signed with us.

Wow. So the first game he played against Tottenham, he had a hat trick. He scored three goals. And people were like, this motherfucker. He could have been our player. That's so fucked up. This time, he scored two goals. And again, the fucking Tottenham.

Hotspur fans have absolutely lost their minds. Like they're like, I don't, they're like, he's actually the biggest snake in the club's history, like over people that actually wore their jersey, which is great. But we also have like, there's a, there's a chant because I love English soccer chance. This one is about Ebrecce as a, and we'll see if anyone, it's, it's hard to understand. But I think you get the vibes. Here it is. We can hear him crying at the lane.

That's their studio, Arloor Stadium. Scores a game. He said, wow, Fuck off Tondam, I'm a good now. Anyway, so there's a lot of fun shit. That's why I love English football specifically because it's not just like defense. It's like, bro, they're crying at the lane like their old stadium because he's scored. It's just, it's wonderful.

So I'm feeling good right now as an Arsenal fan. A couple tweets I've been enjoying gells. at Jurassic Jells tweeted, Inventor of Shredded Wheat cereal. Fuck, I wish I could just eat a basket. Bobby Eton the Pussy. Jesus. E-A-T-O-N.

E-A-T-O-N. Retweeted this Megan McCain tweet. Megan McCain wrote, I would transform into a Quentin Tarantino villain to protect my children. And he said, incredibly funny phrase because what Tarantino villain could you

possibly mean, the Manson family, the rapist in Pulp Fiction, Hitler? Oh, Jesus Christ. All right, yeah, you could just be the bride from Pulp Fiction, you know what I'm? Zed? You're talking about Z. I would transform

into fucking Zed. I would transform into the to protect my children. my kids. All right. It seems like you just want to transform into the gimp. Now, Megan. What are you? Anyways, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien on

Blue Sky at Jack O. B. The number one on Instagram at Jack underscore O underscore Brian. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zekegeist, and we're also on Blue Sky at Daily Zekegeist. We're at The Daily Zykechist on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it, and there

at the bottom you will find the footnotes. Which is where we link off to the information that talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy, hey Miles, is there a song you think the people might enjoy it? Bring out the game. Is that it? No, sorry, my cell phone's going off.

From a thing, from a movie. Yes, there is a song, and it's by the another UK artist, KT. Melodies, and the track is called Pick Up Your Bags. And it's like, this guy is a huge K-Tronata fan, so If you like K. Trinada, you're going to hear it like immediately.

This guy produces the music too as well as, you know, sings, raps over it. So just a good bouncy track with a bit of UK slang in it. So check it out. Pick up your bags by KT melodies. Damn. KT. Is that a reference to KTrenata? KT Melody.

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