The Daily Zeitgeist - A Baffling New Oscars Category, G.R.E.A.M. 8.8.18

Episode Date: August 8, 2018

In episode 207, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Atsuko Okatsuka to discuss a climate change update, the blue wave coming over the countries primaries, the Mar-A-Lago members running the VA, who Trump is playing golf with, the Oscar's changing it up, what happened to Shaun Weiss of the 'Mighty Duck's', theories about the new 'Mamma Mia!' and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. The time Dave Matthews Band dropped raw sewage on 100 people in Chicago2. California Fire Now the Largest in State History: ‘People Are on Edge’3. Ohio 12 special election: No plan for O'Connor to concede in tight race4. Democratic Party’s liberal insurgency hits a wall in Midwest primaries5. Michigan Dems elect state's first all-female statewide ticket for midterms6. The Shadow Rulers of the VA7. Trump Welcomes Najib Razak, the Malaysian Leader, as President, and Owner of a Fine Hotel8. Najib Razak charged over multibillion 1MDB corruption scandal9. Trump Lawyer Michael Cohen Negotiated $1.6 Million Settlement for Top Republican Fundraiser10. TRUMP GOLF COUNT11. Trump nominates some club members to plum government jobs12. Help us identify Trump’s unknown golf partners13. Oscars Won't Televise All Awards Live, Adds Popular Film Category14. ‘Mighty Ducks’ Star Shaun Weiss’ Slow Fall From Grace15. My my, what the hell is up with the Mamma Mia! timeline?16. WAIT, WASN’T MERYL STREEP’S MOM DEAD IN THE FIRST ‘MAMMA MIA!’ MOVIE?17. 10 THINGS ABOUT ‘MAMMA MIA! HERE WE GO AGAIN’ THAT MAKE NO SENSE18. WATCH: Charlotte Dos Santos - Watching You - Sofie's SOS Tape Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 43, Episode 3 of The Daily Zeitgeist. For Wednesday, August 8th, 2018, happy 14-year anniversary of the time that Dave Matthews banned tour bus emptied at Septic Tank while crossing a bridge in Chicago, dumping 800 pounds of human waste onto people on an architectural tour boat right underneath them. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. tour boat right underneath them. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a.

Hako Spion, courtesy of Hachimoto, on Twitter. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! And Miles,

Miles here every day to talk about the news. And Miles, Miles thinks the Zayt game Is the greatest crew But I can't host for Jack No, no No can do Okay, so that's a little

Hall of Notes action for you from Cody Frisbee at C-D-Y on Twitter. And if you know anything about me, I'm a massive Hall of Notes fan. And I'm typically one of the youngest, drunkest people at the very front of the stage at most of their shows.

Oh, really? You go see them live? I follow them. Yes. I've been to, you know, been to Daryl Hall's house before. That AKA had, like, the structure of a good mystery where I didn't know what it was until the very end. And then you revealed it by saying that. That was that bad.

Okay, well, that's fine. I'm also just not as big a Hall of No. 2 fan. Well, you gotta get in the game, man. You're a 30-something-year-old white guy. You don't like Hall of No. 2. I know. What's wrong with me?

Well, we are thrilled to be joined for the first time in our third seat by the hilarious and gifted comedian Asuka Okatsuka. Hi, everyone. Hi.

Hello. Thank you. How are you? I'm good. I'm good, yeah. We're thrilled to have you. Yeah? Yeah. Thank you for coming. I? I'm good. I'm good. Yeah. We're thrilled to have you. Yeah? Yeah.

Thank you for coming. I'm trying to think if we've ever had a Japanese guest on. I don't know. It's been too long. I've been holding it down for the Japanese people on this podcast, so I'm very excited. When I saw you coming, I was like, I'm going to be meaning to meet you. I'm only half. I hope that doesn't...

Well, I'm half too, so we make one whole. Oh my God. So we're all good. What a blessing. Yeah. It's really a blessing. What a blessing. A hundred percent 100 here we are

you know how many years after world war ii we're making we're making things right yeah and a full japanese person on a podcast how about that guys uh well we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment but first we like to tell our listeners what they're in store for uh in addition to learning that it's the anniversary of that Dave Matthews thing. Yeah, wait, hold on. Going back to that. They literally emptied all their shit onto a boat. They emptied their shit over a bridge

onto a full tour boat of people. And so just all 800 pounds, a couple months of Dave Matthews' literal shit just landed on the head of a bunch of people who are in Chicago on an architectural tour. Just all time.

So lucky. Great moments in American history. I didn't know that even happened. So it's good to know. Yeah. Shout out to Chicago. Great, great city to visit. We're going to talk about climate change and just what it's doing in addition to creating

the largest wildfire in California history. And then to put out that fire, we're going to talk about a soothing blue wave that is starting to come into view. We are going to talk about the GOP swamp boys. Swamp boys. And just all the rampant corruption that is just sort of falling out of the Trump administration and the GOP these days. We're going to talk about how these three random Mar-a-Lago rich guys are secretly running the VA, even though they have no association with it at all. It's okay. It's okay.

They're Mar-a-Lago members. We're going to talk about that in association with Trump's golf game, which is a thing we should actually be worried about. How much he's golfing and with whom. We are going to talk about the new Oscars, you guys. They have buckled to pressure in the worst way possible, it would seem. We don't know all the details, but we're going to speculate that it's really bad. We're going to talk about Goldberg from Mighty Ducks. If you haven't seen the picture, do yourself the opposite of a favor and go check it out just because... It's heartbreaking.

It is. And finally, we're going to speculate about whether the Mamma Mia universe secretly takes place in Purgatory. speculate about whether the Mamma Mia universe secretly takes place in purgatory. But first, we like to ask our guest, Atsuko, is there something from your search history that is revealing about who you are as a human being? Right. I think it was Jason Momoa last, just his name. Yeah. And Aquaman.

Okay. And just because he looks good as aquaman yeah or awful i know he looks good he looks good i i just haven't i didn't know you know sometimes you don't know you know uh subconsciously who you might find attractive or uh what you know really gets you excited. And he was one of those. I saw him in the poster for Aquaman, and I think I dropped my phone immediately. I have to say, I always bring him up as the most impressive famous person to see in person

just because he is as impressive in all the ways he's impressive on screen in person he's like a huge dude with all those tattoos and animal highly recommend stalking him uh he's also really easy to find i think i got excited that there was like a water you know men in water theme you know with shape of water yeah and Aquaman, you know, just, can you imagine going on a casual swim and Jason Momoa shows up? I would drown. You know what I mean? Well, he would save you.

And then that would be the beginning of your relationship. Underwater love. Right. That's, you know, I mean, that's assuming he's interested too, you know. I think. Have you seen the trailer for Aquaman? I actually didn't get there. Oh, yeah. I was just, I got. You just saw the poster for Aquaman I actually didn't get there oh yeah

I was just I got you just saw the poster you're like what is this I got searching to well what other poses you know

are there of him in this outfit yes so I never got to the trailer in his like scaly pants or whatever those are yes

is it jeans I don't know what kind of pants is he wearing yeah they are sort of like they look genie

denim-y and then there's some leather too I think going on yeah which I don't know What kind of pants is he wearing? Yeah, they are sort of like, they look genie. Genie. And then there's some leather, too, I think, going on. Yeah. Which, I don't know how that works underwater. Yeah. And there's a lot of, that's why I asked if you saw the trailer, because there's a lot of, like, movement shots under the water that I'm like, people, that doesn't look like people moving underwater.

It just sort of looks like there are bubbles around, so they're calling it under the sea. Right. But everybody's moving, like, it's just. On land. Yeah. Yeah. No, like, even their hair, like, you know, it so they're calling it under the sea. Right. But it was a little... But everybody's moving like it's just... A land. Yeah. Yeah. No, like even their hair, like, you know, it was... Oh, it's a trick.

Whatever, you know. It's fine, though. We're here to see Jason Momoa either way. Right. I know I am. Yeah. Have you watched Game of Thrones? Do you know his work from Game of Thrones?

I do know his work. And then I found out, like, he got the role by doing a haka in the audition. There were no lines or anything. He just did a haka. Yeah. And so I was like, cool, way to represent. Yeah. I know what a haka is, but for our listeners, what is that?

That's like the Kiwi New Zealand Maori war dance. Yeah, war cry. Dope. And so, yeah, they get super pumped up and very this this primal energy of like you know

and I can see yeah as an audition for a character who doesn't speak English right and is just like running around with the

what the fuck are they all called a horse nah nah what's that group called does she Khaleesi be fucking with oh yeah yeah yeah yo

they're gonna take hold on they're gonna take my fucking Game of Thrones pass from me shoot his people you're talking about his people

the Dothraki thank you super producer Nick Stump back from vacation back from vacation yes the Dothraki so yeah of course like

cause you're speaking made up language you might as well just show like I can emote like this sort of this king of the Dothraki. Totally. Yeah, it's beautiful. They do it before football games, at weddings.

It's very emotional. And now you're starting to see, what movie was I seeing where there were kids doing it? It's starting to get into our culture. And I don't know if people are appropriating it. It's starting to get into our culture. And I don't know if people are appropriating it. And I'm like, oh my god. It was a lot when neo-Nazis already marched with tiki torches. And it was like, can you imagine if they did a haka too? To just stay, you know what I mean?

They were like, at least we're doing it correctly. Right, right. Like Polynesian, we got it. That's the detail they nail. They're like, tiki torches, guys, this wouldn't be right without doing the haka. This feels bad. Asuka, what is something that is overrated in your opinion? I think actually juice bars.

I know that people might be upset about that. Upset them? Who cares? It's juice. If you're getting that upset about juice. I have beef with most people who work at juice bars. Yeah. I don't know.

How about you? Do you juice? I don't juice. How about you? Do you juice? I don't juice necessarily. I mean, I was taking some steroids. Yeah. But no, juicing, no, like making it at home, nah. I don't like juice as a verb, personally. No.

Unless it's something that's hard. No, I know. It's become a verb. And then, you know, some of the stuff helps to clear my sinuses, so I've become a believer and I go buy. But then the ones you just drink to get nutrients through the day or whatever, I don't understand the meaning of it. Yeah. Well, it's just overpriced, typically, too.

It's overpriced. It's like, I'm paying $8 for a bottle of broken down kale and other stuff. Totally. I get the health hook for people that, well, see, it's just that. It's very clean, and that's totally i'm like i get the like the i guess the health hook for people that like we'll see it's just that it's very clean and that's all i'm getting but then the economics of it i can't get on board with i'm like eight bucks for that though i know all it took yeah my i saw my grandma going into a juice bar when she was waiting for me and she thought i wasn't there yet and so she went and she came out with this like crazy like brain moon powder juice mix.

And she was so upset that it was $12, but she needed to use the restroom. And so they charged her for, you know, she was like, I'll buy something. But it was for an immigrant. It's like still like witchy, you know? Oh, yeah. 100%. Like what happened to orange juice? Right. Or apple juice? No, we%. Like what happened to orange juice? Right.

Or apple juice? No, we're straight on the vegetable green juice train now. Wait, when you say have beef, the people that work there, so you pull up to a juice bar, you're like, what's up, dork? You generally don't. Give me a cup of water for free.

Out this bitch. It's me just gritting my teeth and being like, yeah, I'm going to buy one, but like I'm going to get a juice. So your relationship is still like, I still buy them. They're all assholes. I don't know why they're always like attitude-y, you know? Do people give you attitude?

They give me attitude because I have questions. Oh, right. Because I always think maybe I'm going to try something new. I always end up with the same one. But they hate it when you have questions. They're like, well, you should know. You don't know moon powder? Yeah.

Brain juice? You know? Yeah, what is that? Moon juice is a brand, right? An actual brand out here that I think I went to when it was just one little stand in Santa Monica. And it was like $15 for an almond milk that I, when they told me that, I already had like put my mouth on the straw. And so I was amazed. And then I was like, well, good luck with that business model, assholes.

And now it's like huge. Everybody does moon juice. And I think Goop got involved. Oh, because it's all about adaptogenic nutrients? Right. Wow. Just in general, when it comes to fruit juice, like we think it comes from fruit, it's healthy.

It's just sugar, water for the most part. I mean, the healthy thing about fruit is the fiber. Right. Getting the fiber. And just pressing all the flavor out. Fruit juice is just getting all the flavor and all the fiber out of it. So, yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I'm not that mad, to be honest, you know, but. Well, yeah. No, fuck juice. No, fuck juice. Fuck people who drink juice. And yeah, shout out to Juice Too also. It's just the cashiers. Because I know there are people working hard

juicing it in the back. Right, right, right. Those aren't the people that get to ring you up. Right. Oh, you think there's like sweatshop labor going on in the back or i seen it i seen it where the cashier wasn't there the hipster wasn't there to ring me up so i was like where is she her only job is to just press a button and say it's 12 bucks right and so the immigrant in the back who was making all the juices breaking his back to make these. It's not easy. You know, it's the machines intense and like it vibrates and you have all these bulky vegetables.

Right. He's working hard. He came up to the cash register and rang me up and I was like, why don't we just pay him extra to do the cashier too? So I can do less with the attitude of the girl being like, you don't know what Cayenne does? You know what I mean? And she was gone.

Anyhow, I'm done yeah yeah he can't explain how it aligns your chakras i was i tipped him i don't know uh what is something you think is underrated um pat paddington oh yeah paddington bear everyone loves paddington do i do the movie specifically or just the whole universe of Paddington? The movie, especially Paddington 2. I know it's been a while, but I think about it often. And how, to be honest, not a lot of people saw it, I feel like. I feel like a lot of comedians, a lot of our guests have come in. Yeah, have seen it.

Yo, have you seen Paddington 2? Yeah. Like everyone. Oh, that's great. At least in, and it could just be the LA media bubble where people tend to see more movies. Yeah. Like everyone. So at least, at least in, and it could just be the LA media bubble where people are, you know, tend to see more movies. Yeah. But I've heard that so many times that I started watching it on a plane and fell asleep,

but I was, I'm going to watch the whole thing because I was actually really kind of drawn in by the whole thing. Yeah. I think there's something to like talking bears. I don't know. I mean, talking bears in London, touching the hearts of people. I mean, it's something to like talking bears. I don't know. I mean, talking bears in London, touching the hearts of people. I mean, it's Winnie the Pooh. I don't know.

They've got something going on this year. But whereas Paddington is a real bear, Winnie the Pooh is just some fucking toy that Christopher Robbins is like, yo, you're alive. Paddington 2 is about undocumented immigrants. Because he come from like Peru or something, right? Yeah. And seeking refuge. So domestically

Paddington 2 made $40 million, but in foreign markets it made $186 million. It was a huge hit, but America slept on it a little bit. And yes, I hear that it's like the greatest movie.

It's kind of what Zootopia did for me, too. Yeah. Supposedly maybe kid friendly movies. Right. Really just packing in a lot of messages. Yeah right right right. While being really entertaining. Nice. I don't know. I'm so predictable.

I'm just a basic bitch. No. Did you just see Paddington? What do you hate Juice? What do you like Paddington? Yeah. Those are not predictable. Underrated, though. Pumpkin spice lattes. And Uggs. Okay, I'm done.

What is a myth, finally? What is something that most people think is true that you know to be false? Or vice versa? Oh, it sucks because, you know, I have this joke where I'm trying to figure out why, you know, the battle against gluten, I keep losing a lot of friends to it. You know, a lot of actually just a lot of my white friends to it. Yeah. And I talk about how, you know, maybe white people are still evolving because there's constantly new things they can't eat anymore. You know what I mean?

My husband goes through this. Like every day there's a new thing he can't eat anymore. But I'm like, you're 40. What do you mean you're still changing? I'm like, maybe white people are evolving. But then I just found out my grandma is actually gluten-free. Oh, wow. Like two days ago. Like she said, I'm done. my grandma is actually gluten-free. Oh, wow. Like two days ago.

Like she said, I'm done. I'm off the gluten. The doctors told her she can't eat gluten anymore at 83 years old. How did you get to 83 eating all that fucking gluten, though? That's what I'm saying. And now they're like, well, now you've got to cook. Wait, does she have a specific condition where they're trying to tie it to? She had a hard time breathing, and then she was in the hospital.

She just got released last night. So she thought it was her heart. She couldn't breathe, chest pains. And so they checked her heart, and everything was fine with her heart. And then they were like, I think it's your stomach. And then they were like, I think it's gluten. And I was like, you cannot tell. Yeah, that's a jump.

Oh, my God. Was her doctor the woman who worked at the juice place? I will cut a bitch. god was her doctor the woman who worked at the juice place because i will cut a bitch it was her and uh she's like do you know what cayenne does for you i'll be like here's 12 bucks so i just got off of uh gluten-free pasta i was only eating gluten-free pasta for a while because you don't feel full afterwards and i think my problem is I just eat too much pasta when I eat pasta, maybe. Okay. But I realized that it's just not as good. And so I just had like normal pasta again for the first time on Sunday night.

And I was like, holy shit, this is so much better. Just a high. Like the other thing just like breaks apart the gluten-free pasta. Wait, I have a question. So they were thinking that because she was having a hard time digesting gluten, that was reverberating into her chest and like breathing, like causing respiratory issues? Fatigue. You know, apparently gluten causes fatigue and sometimes like inflammatory things. And so somehow they're saying for now, until we find out more results, that's what you got to cut out.

Wow. Which is like, you know, for her, that was the American dream, being able to eat bread all the time, you know? Yeah, no. Kind of a bummer. We've got complex microbiomes going on in our stomachs that get fucked up by all sorts of things. Yeah, gluten doesn't discriminate.

Right. Turns out. It's colorblind. It's more about like what i thought was a myth becoming true maybe right shit yeah i know yeah yeah because yeah a lot of people that i know who like eat gluten-free they look very healthy already yeah and i'm always like what they're always so positive too yeah and i'm like well cool like you know i'm not gonna knock anybody for wanting to control their diet but I'm also looking like you look very healthy,

so I'm not sure what are the dysfunctions. I would get this intestinal swelling right here, and I'm like, you have a fucking six-pack. What are you saying? But if it does make you feel lighter, then so be it. I noticed that with red meat, though, too, for sure. When I stopped eating red meat more and more, I realized how less I get the itis from digesting because it just zaps all your

energy to just try and digest all that red meat but yeah gluten we're still homies so we're all these people just living with like severe ibs their whole lives and then just we're like ah finally i figured it out i feel like i've met people who have who clearly like, no, this has actually helped me. And then, you know, some people just do it because they think it's healthy. Or I'm sure it is in some level, but yeah. Totally. Yeah. Yeah.

I guess that is what my grandma had. She constantly had to use the restroom. Right. For 83 years. Holy shit. And then she was like, no, it's just me. I've done something wrong. It's genes.

It's genes. It's genes. Yeah. Does she feel like a lot better now that she's off-glute? It's been a day, so we'll see. All right. We'll check back in with your grandma at a future date. All right, guys.

We wanted to check in with the microbiome around us. I guess it's not a microbiome. Macro. The bio. The macrobiome. It's a biodome. It's a biodome, really. So California is currently engulfed by the biggest wildfire in its history.

Yeah. The area that's on fire is currently the size of Los Angeles. Pretty big city. And we've mentioned before that in addition to being caused by climate change, these wildfires, they contribute to climate change because, you know, a city the size of Los Angeles, LA's car emissions are famous villains in the CO2 emissions story. But now instead of a bunch of cars farting a little invisible smoke

into the air all over the city, imagine that the city itself is a giant fire that's belching thick black smoke into the atmosphere. So, yeah, I mean, there's been fires forever, but just not fires this big. Like I said, this is the biggest in the history of California. So the idea is that we could face a future where there's a cycle of, you know, huge fires cause worse global warming, cause bigger fires, cause worse global warming. Yeah, more droughts. Yeah.

More fuel for the fire. Right. It's caused by the fact that, yeah, droughts and dry conditions and earlier summers and later summers just make everything into kindling until all of us look like the chimney sweeps in Oliver Twist. Just all the time. Just smeared faces. But we were talking earlier. Daddy Fernandez was in the office and she just came back from Arizona.

And I've been to Arizona in the past when the environment hadn hadn't gone crazy and it's like you can't walk outside and like the sun is an aggressive assault on your like skin and face and eyeballs. And she was saying that her sister-in-law's car broke down because of the heat. Like it just the battery died. From the heat? From the heat. Wow. Yeah. Like it just, the battery died.

From the heat? From the heat. Wow. Yeah. And her brother's family, her brother and sister-in-law's family has run through two air conditioners in the past couple of years because of how hard they're having to work. that we've been building this world around us for all the buildings and homes and lives and machines that we've kind of developed were built for a different, less hot world. And so there's just all these ways

that different things are going to compound on each other. I mean, there was a heat wave in Los Angeles a couple of weeks ago that knocked the power out for a lot of people, knocked my power out. Yeah. Knocked my air conditioning out. The infrastructure. Flights.

Apparently, flights can't take off in air that is 120 degrees or hotter because the air particles in air that's that hot are too far apart, and there's just not the lift on the wings like it just doesn't work our planes were not designed for this future that we're headed towards so what's the solution jack uh well how do we all stay cool we'll we'll solve it after the break oh we'll solve it during the break and we'll let y'all know how it goes maybe uh yeah it's one of those things where like the evidence is so clearly in front of you and We'll solve it during the break, and we'll let y'all know how it goes. Maybe. Yeah. It's one of those things where the evidence is so clearly in front of you,

and you'd think that even the fossil fuel industry would, at the very least, be like, yeah, yeah, this is kind of fucked up. But they stand to lose too much money, and I think even with Trump trying to blame everything but the earth for this situation, it's just kind of fucked up. Yeah, I don't know. I just don't know what to say because living in California, this is always the thing. It's like there's fire season, but it just, over time, over my life,

it just started earlier and earlier and gotten worse and worse. I mean, last year with the fires in Ventura and stuff like that, it's not just isolated to these like large swaths of wild like wilderness where there's a bunch of uh you know like foliage that's gonna combust and things like that it's like moving into places where people live and now and it's just uh the evolution of it is is very frightening and yeah to know that soon enough we're like in a world we're like our planes can't cope with the heat yeah and our car batteries are just dying because it's too like the atmospheric temperature i just never heard of that before the battery is being too stressed by the heat just sitting there yeah well trump i like that trump doesn't use the same

argument he uses when it's cold you know right it's so cold out where's where's global warming when you need it right and like you know? It's so cold out. Where is global warming when you need it? And like, you know, that logic, whatever, that's not how global warming works. But, you know, technically in that sense, why is he not talking about it now? Where it's like, it's so hot outside. I guess it's global warming. You know what I mean? It would be the same logic.

His explanation is that environmentalists have made certain water off limits for putting the fires out, and that's what's causing it. And it's like one of those arguments. It's the Gish Gallop that Andrew T., one of our guests, talks about where people say something that's so stupid and have like 20 things wrong with it that it just exhausts you to point all of them out. Totally.

People don't use water to put fires out, really, of this size. This never happened. They have't use water to put fires out, really, of this size. This never happened. They have all the water they need. Right. All these different things. Yeah. But yeah,

so, it's almost like not worth arguing at this point. Yeah, because the facts are fucking right there. I know,

and he knows it. Right. It's not about whether he knows it or not. He knows it. There was some article, or I don't know, maybe it was a comedian,

somebody was pointing out probably eventually when it begins threatening golf course infrastructure is when he'll actually be like, oh, shit. This is, what the fuck's going on? You just killed the fairway. Yeah. He'll just build an indoor space, though. You know?

It's just, the second coming is near. The fossil fuel companies were the first ones to know about this. They were studying it back in the 80s. They were like, oh, shit, look what's happening. And they were literally just like, shut the fuck up about it. Right, so they just figured out what their argument was going to be against it or a bunch of coping mechanisms to help them sleep at night. I think it's something to do with burying yourself under just giant piles of cash.

Keeps insulated. Yeah, and that's how they get by but yeah we're not gonna convince them of anything new when they knew about this like 10 years before anyone else uh all right we're gonna take a quick break we'll be right back fantasy football fans the nfl season is here and now is the time to get ready to dominate your leagues the best way to crush your opponents this season is to listen to the nfl fantasy football podcast come hang out with me marcus grant and my pal michael f florio as we give you all the info you need to absolutely steamroll your fantasy league and bring home a championship you don't need to spend hours each day breaking down every stat and every stitch of game tape to set a winning

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The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture.

Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them. Why is that? Just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.

Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Substance use disorder and addiction is so isolating. And so as a Black woman in recovery, hope must be loud.

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Charge them with crimes against humanity. There you go. That's how you do it. Right. Oh, I thought it was walk around with an ice pack on you. That too. At all times. That's phase one.

Chemical ice packs, you guys. Oh, we're thinking long term. I'm sorry. I thought we were just thinking one. Chemical ice packs, you guys. Oh, we're thinking long term. I'm sorry. I thought we were just thinking today. Yeah. Well,

do both, you know. Put an ice pack on and then let's drag these people to the Hague. Right, right. I wonder if clothes

are going to change. Like, if we're going to start wearing different clothing. Oh, yeah. Well, obviously we are

because always clothing changes, but I wonder if it will adapt to that like i wonder if it already is like the way that uh you know fitness casual or what's it called athleisure wear is like the new hot shit in los angeles i wonder if that's because people are just like yeah i'm fucking sweating all the time anyways well and even like in japan like uniqlo had like as a whole sort of-wicking version of office wear because it's so humid and hot that to wear cotton, you'd soak your shirt. But they're like, nah, get this air. How have you not told me about this before now?

Soak-free shirts? Soak-free. They're dry-fit material, but cut in your Oxford shirt or whatever. And they just keep you breezy. So in that way, I think fabrics are changing too because the more people are fucking out here sweating. Aerism, is that what it's called? Thank you, Super Producer Anahosier.

I sit across from the two of you sweating through my shirt every day. This is the first time this came up. They also have iron-free shirts there. Oh, okay. You don't have to iron it. I need to start shopping at Uniqlo, I think is the message. It's the wave.

Fast fashion is the wave. It's always the wave. Uniqlo. It's good. Sorry, that was mine. Wow. Uniqlo. Uniqlo.

It is good. All right. Good to see you. So, Miles, the blue wave, we've heard it's coming. We heard it's going to be a tsunami. We've heard it's not coming and heard it's going to be a tsunami. We've heard it's not coming and it was just going to be a ripple. And so it looks like it might be real based on some returns from last night's elections. The Blue Wave is not just a Japanese baseball team sponsored by Oryx, who Ichiro used to play for.

That's an inside joke for me. Yes. So I guess, look uh there were some primaries yesterday there's a special election in ohio that really fucking came down to the wire i was watching the returns come in biting my nails uh because this is a district uh that has been solidly republican since reagan i think was the last time a democrat held that seat and trump won this district in ohio's 12th district by 11 points pat tberry whose seat it was would last time a Democrat held that seat. And Trump won this district in Ohio's 12th district by 11 points. Pat Tiberi, whose seat it was, would win by like 20 to 30 points some years.

And fucking last night, Danny O'Connor took Balderson to the wire and I think lost by just around 1600 votes or something like that. But it's about like less than 1% or about 1%, which is unheard of when you look at the history of this district. And that should make people very concerned because if you're, if you're taking districts that have historically always been solidly, uh, Republican, and now suddenly a Democrat is coming in and taking you to like within 1%, that means Democrats are fucking overperforming. Uh, and a lot of people are starting to look probably at their own representation being like, I don't think I like this brand of politics right now. So it's a bad spot for the GOP because they had to spend something like $5 million to keep this race competitive when normally this is like a safe seat or what you'd call a safe

seat because you're like, we don't have to put resources in it because it does its own thing and we don't have to worry about that being a threat. But I think what we're seeing is because there's a lot of suburban precincts in this district too that the republicans they're not uh appealing as much to suburban people as they may have like when in 2016 when people were just like whatever anyone but hillary now they're like oh fuck maybe this is not good right i think a lot of women have especially who had who had voted for trump are starting to look at like his presidency and be like, yeah, they don't they don't want to be near this. Have they found like has polling found actual shifts? Because my assumption was always that

it was just young people who didn't vote kind of coming out and starting to vote now because of how horrifying the whole Trump thing is. But are they seeing that people who did vote for Trump are now going back to Democrats? Well, I mean, I think just by when you look at the numbers that are in the people that are available, clearly from that universe of voters, there are somehow more people are skewing to the Democrats. So I think just by virtue of the result, people are kind of being like, I prefer this candidate. And now Balderson, is that his name? Yep. He, the Republican candidate, I mean, we've seen some special elections, even one in Alabama, where the Republican vastly underperformed. Did

Balderson have any, like, horrifying things, like picking up on 12-year-old girls at the mall or anything? Really? I mean, he's like a, you know, he's a Trumpy dude. Trump came through at the last minute and threw his weight behind him. So that helped to a certain extent. But I think Daniel O'Connor, his sort of platform was just more like he was just like, let's address the issues like literally in Ohio. Yes, I'm a Democrat. But he also stayed away from bashing Trump, which is which is sort of like what Conor Lamb did in Pennsylvania. Like a lot of these people who have been in really solidly Republican districts, they try and if they're Democrats, they don't want to jump on the beat to Trump, you know,

till it's dead. Like, you know, they don't that's just not rhetorically what they need for their platform because it sort of turns off those voters. Right. If they just sort of keep it issue based of like, yeah, what about your health care and things like that? Yeah. People are much more open.

Right. Right. Because people. Yeah. There are much more open. Right. Right. Because people. Yeah. There is still a culture war being fought. And if you just manage to stay out of that stream, then you're going to be in better shape than if you, you know, take a side in it. And then there was also a primary in Kansas.

Yeah. Where Chris Kobach won the gubernatorial primary for the Republicans. Well, it hasn't totally been decided. Okay. So this is like the margin of victory for him is less than 200 votes. And it was between him. So Chris Kobach is like the same dude who like started that whole fake voter commission, which is just a circus just to try try and perpetuate these weird conspiracies

about all these weird voting irregularities. What did he come up with on that? Nothing. And he was getting owned by judges who were like, one judge when he was arguing something in court was like, you should go read a textbook about procedural law before you come back in here, and just ran out on a rail. But he is the secretary of state for kansas so that means election results are under his uh purview basically

so if there is a recount um he could basically be overseeing which would be very interesting but i think the thing with this race that's interesting is that chris kobach is the trumpian dude right you know he's the trump republican and then he ran against Jeff Collier, who is not fully aligned with Trump, but got the sign-off of Bob Dole, who was like Mr. Kansas Republican. And he's super hot right now. Yeah, Bob Dole.

Bob Dole's name is on the tip of everyone's tongue. 100%. To be honest, I thought he had passed away. When I saw that he had endorsed him, I was like like oh shit bob dole is still alive although he does look like a corpse with makeup on yeah yeah so when this so i think you're starting to see there's a little bit of a fracturing going on because even with republicans the guy who isn't a trump republican took the trump guy down to the

wires and who knows i mean if this goes to a recount or whatever or they count all the provisional ballots and he wins, that would also be interesting because in the end they were like, I remember this version of the party when it was Bob Dole and prefer that than to this new brand. Yeah. Something's in the water. Yeah.

And it's the blue wave. There you go. Although a lot of people yesterday were, like especially on Twitter when I was just going through MAGA Twitter, as I like to do on election nights. Yeah, that's good for you. It's good for your heart health. No, I mean, I just like to know what kind of Kool-Aid they're sipping over there. And it gets your heart rate above 120.

No, no, I don't let that affect me. I've found a way to go to, like, a very zen place. You're way cooler than me. Oh, okay. Well, I just can't. Otherwise, I'll be a mess because I'm naturally a warrior. A warrior of worrying, as I like to say. Wow.

But yeah, like now- An anxiety warrior. I'm an anxiety warrior. Beast mode anxiety. Beast mode. Beast mode warrior. But yeah, when I look, they're all like, yeah, man, look at Balderson. He's like, Ohio, man, the red tsunami's coming.

And you're like, hold on. Just let them believe that shit them believe i know but in my mind i'm like wow like y'all really thought y'all were the underdog this you this was not supposed to be that close that would imagine like if a district somewhere in la came down and a republican barely or a democrat won by like one percent you'd be like what the fuck is going on yeah it's just just so, it's just not the norm for that area. So again, but you know, like conspiracy theories like QAnon, you gotta try and just shift reality to be like, no, this is a good thing. It means

there's a, I guess a red tsunami, but I don't know. There's no fucking polling to support that. Please believe that. Yeah, stay at home. Stay at home. The Drudge Report this morning had, you know, Republicans hold seat with, like, people cheering as their, like, main story. And now they've shifted because that apparently wasn't holding water. They've shifted to Green Party space alien thwarts Dems because apparently there was a Green Party candidate who got, like, 1,100 votes and would have swung the election

the opposite direction if all those people had voted for Democrats, which there's no guarantee that 1,100 people who vote for a guy who thinks he's an alien are going to go out and vote for a Democrat. But the Kobach thing is interesting. I heard 538 bring that race up because Collier, the Republican who's like the Bob Dole Republican, when you do polling with him versus the Democratic candidate, he is up by a significant percentage. But when you do Kobach, the crazy Trumpian guy, it's basically a dead heat with the Democrats. So I think Democrats are probably pulling for Kobach to pull this one out. Yeah. And then Michigan also had a pretty significant race, right? Well, yeah, there's a lot going on there, too. So Rashida Tlaib, she won the Democratic

primary for the 13th congressional district, which is John Conyers old seat that he left. And she's basically not she's going to run unopposed. I don't think there's going to be a Republican running against her in November, which would make her the first Muslim woman to serve in Congress. And just ladies all around the country were doing like in all kinds of primaries and things like that. Representation has shot up exponentially for women candidates for Congress and other offices. So very good to see.

But yeah, Michigan is also I think they're probably looking at having a nearly all female ticket for the Democratic side come November. And, you know, I think Debbie Stabenow, she won her primary and then Gretchen Whitmer won for the gubernatorial race. But that one is interesting because the Washington Post and other establishment dem thinking places were kind of like, man, the fact that Abdul El-Sayed lost, who was backed by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders, they're like, oh, I mean, the fact that he lost to Whitmer means it looks like they've hit a wall. That progressive wing has totally hit a wall.

So, man, better go back to center. But when you look at the platform that she ran on, she was running on Medicaid expansion, marijuana legalization, LGBT civil rights, banning the box, which means if you're applying for a job, if you have to disclose when you're applying for a job, like if you've been convicted of a crime because that leads to recidivism. You know what I mean? Like just trying to get people jobs and things like that. And like funding Planned Parenthood, a $15 minimum wage, universal preschool. So if this is a centrist Democrat, my goodness, then like the old guard needs to take a look at themselves and be like, okay, well, clearly the shift has moved to the left. Right.

Running against more progressive candidates always shifts the centrist candidates more to the left. And that's, I think, if you're a progressive, you're happy to see happening whether they win the race or not. It's shifting the overall platform a little bit to the left. And I think it's the same thing that happened with the tea party and the and the republicans you know they've just took them further and further right right right right and now they're like the party of like rural americans who have like don't aren't really completely disconnected with the reality so so there are these three dudes who are mar-a-lago members, just happen to be Mar-a-Lago members. There's nothing significant about that fact. One of them is Ike Perlmutter, the extremely secretive Marvel Entertainment chairman.

There's a Dr. Palm Beach, Dr. Bruce Moskowitz, and a lawyer named Mark Sherman. And none of them are US military veterans. None of them have experience as government officials. But they are, ProPublica unearthed like hundreds of documents showing that these guys are basically running the VA department. Like for some reason. Yeah. Golf bros.

Yeah, yeah. So this is something that our writer JM had written about a couple weeks ago to keep an eye on is just that we should all probably be concerned about Trump's golf game. Like this is something that gets trotted out. You know, every every time Obama would golf, people on Fox News would be like, look, he's golfing while, you know, mothers are working three jobs a day and he doesn doesn't care about you uh and you know lots of presidents golf i think it's a prerequisite actually yeah what the fuck is with that name me a president who didn't golf right listen to something else uh fdr he was in the chair though oh man i'm just being real you know what i mean you know no for sure yeah they're good but who

knows probably in his younger days yeah he was he was sportist yeah no that guy was lazy uh so uh but i mean trump golfs a lot golfs more than most presidents i mean any excuse to wear those flattering khakis and white polar shirts that yeah he looks good um but so we don't know who Trump has been playing golf with. And as The Washington Post has pointed out, you know, he's golfed with a lot of people who have then just had these huge deals like go in their direction or, you know, they think that he's golfed with these people. But it's like completely off limits and you can't like photograph him really well golfing. Right. But it's like completely off limits and you can't like photograph him really well golfing. Right.

It's just, you know, there's all these sorts of handshake deals that are going on behind the scenes that I think they said on 81 of the 111 days Trump is suspected to have played golf since becoming president. We don't know who he was playing with at all. And like playing golf with him is a way to run the VA, for instance. It was like the prime minister of Malaysia or something. Like, Elliot Broidy connected them. Like, hey. Elliot Broidy, who used to be a fundraiser for the RNC and then had an affair with a playmate and then possibly paid for an abortion.

It was like all this whole other scandal that we we know about as one of michael cohen's clients they were saying that broidy was trying to get uh his white house ties to like secure a very lucrative contract uh with uh with like the malaysian government because brody had like a defense company and was sort of being like yo i can get you like i can get you on the links with president trump and lo and of being like, yo, I can get you on the links with President Trump. And lo and behold, it's not sure what happened, but they did meet. And it looks like, yeah, that Mar-a-Lago is sort of like the venue for a lot of this informal power sharing and whatever you want to call it. Power sales.

Yeah. They say at least five administration appointees were members of Trump clubs, which could potentially mean that more potential appointees are meeting with Trump through golf. So I don't know. It's just I think he recently decided his Supreme Court pick at his New Jersey golf club. Right. And those are like some of the dates on which we don't know who he was playing with. Maybe he was playing.

Maybe he like had them golf for it. Yeah. Like the different nominees. All right, Kevin, I'll go. Do we know if he's good at it? Like is it, could he make deals that way if he wanted? If he's like, okay, hold in one for me. I think he's decent, but I also know from people who golf

and have like golfed with people who have golfed with him that he cheats like mercilessly. Okay. Like he, like that's a weird thing to do is cheat at golf. have golfed with people who have golfed with him that he cheats mercilessly. That's a weird thing to do is cheat at golf. There's sort of an honor system that like, oh, we're all doing this for fun, but you wouldn't cheat because that's pointless. Because it's not like an adrenaline game. You're supposed to leisurely talk and walk.

Yeah, no, he cheats. He will just throw the ball onto the fairway and be like, oh, there it is. Oh, my. And then no one's just like, I guess this is what it's like playing with Donald. But I feel like golf, too, you want to feel that you're getting better. So why cheat yourself of being like, oh, yeah, I shot a 72. Yo, it's a shell game he's playing with himself.

It's very dictator-y. Yeah, it is. To be like, okay, this is my game. Nobody else wins. But if you try to win, you'll get shot kind of thing. Right, right. Or I'll just cheat so crazy. Like I'm just going to throw the ball like onto the green,

the putting green and be like, you saw that. Yeah. Tiger Woods, y'all. Shot an 18. Shot an 18. Nothing but holes in one. Shot an MS-13. All right.

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This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close

to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current, available now with new episodes every Thursday.

Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Substance use disorder and addiction is so isolating. And so as a Black woman in recovery, hope must be loud. It grows louder when you ask for help and you're vulnerable. It is the thread that lets you know that no matter what happens, you will be okay. When we learn the power of hope, recovery is possible. Find out how at startwithhope.com. Brought to you by the National Council for Mental Wellbeing, Shatterproof, and the Ad Council.

I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys.

I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?

And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Oh, I'm sorry. My hips don't lie. We were just reminiscing about Shakira. Shaq. the only Shaq in my book

wow his hips don't lie his hips don't lie the Lebanese Colombian sensation so guys the Oscars have

been listening to the criticism and they have decided to cut the program down to three hours and

they've decided to add a new category, and it's just, the category they've added is so stupid and wrong-headed. So one of the criticisms is like, well, nobody wants to see these movies. These aren't the most popular movies that are being nominated for Best Picture,

so why would we watch this show? And I guess they do get higher ratings when they nominate Lord of the rings or whatever um so they have added a new category that they are calling most popular movie yeah they uh used very flowery language outstanding achievement in popular film it just means the most popular shit and we still don't know what the eligibility requirements are, like how you determine, like how they would determine that. Because at that point, is that something you vote on? Like you would think to gauge the popularity,

like there are very measurable things, like the box office receipts and things like that. Unless it's just that, like numbers of attendees. Right, or like Twitter mentions. Yeah, or retweets of the movie title or something. It's such a weird thing. I remember when Dark Knight came out, people were like, man, that should have won something. That movie was too good and too big.

Best supporting actor, which is what it deserved to win. Right, but I think there are other people who just felt like it wasn't considered for anything else because it's a Batman movie or whatever. And whatever. You know, I don't... That's fine. These awards are whatever they are, but they don't affect my life in any fucking way

aside from it's some shit to do on a Sunday in March, usually, right? Yeah, March, yeah. And now, like... Now, just for three hours. For three hours. And then they're not even gonna... The other part of it is cutting it down

means that they're not gonna show some, the other part of it is cutting it down means that they're not going to show some of the other awards being given out live. Which is, I don't mind. The length of time was never a problem, but I don't know. I live in LA. I don't know if, it seems like I think people in LA are like,

yeah, we're going to watch the Oscars. But I feel like people around the country have Oscar viewing parties or whatever. Yeah. But the whole length. They like to see. Yeah. There are some categories

I feel like we could speed through maybe in the middle of the program. I love best sound mixing. I also, right, exactly. There's two sound mixing categories, sound editing, sound mixing, or whatever sound design that only a very select few people

know the difference between. Like you can... Get rid of one of those? Yeah, or combine them and just do it like at the same time very select few people know the difference between like you can get rid of one of those. Yeah. Or, or combine them and just do it like at the same time. Who cares? It's the Academy of motion picture arts and sciences.

You know what I mean? So like get everybody. I'm just saying, yeah. If you're going to add a category to, you know, improve the watchability, like what about like best special effect,

best stunt, best casting casting they don't even have best casting which i think would be a fun award because then you could show like what if this character had been played by ben affleck like you know just how better the casting yeah or like motion capture or other things there's so many other dimensions of filmmaking now that like probably should get it. Yeah. I think stunt work is one that we're seeing more like, especially with popularities movies like John Wick. Right.

And what those directors have done being stuntmen and like really wanting to make a film that like really showcased how good stunt work can be. Yeah. Like, yo. Finding out how they do special effects is like usually really interesting. Like a lot of the time it's like a in-camera trick that is basically a magic trick. Most of Lord of the Rings was not shot with computers. It was shot by placing actors further behind other actors

who were supposed to be taller than them and playing with perspective and shit. Which is a good lead-in to best actor who had to pretend that was a real person that we're talking to. Right, there you go. Maybe they should just redo the whole thing and keep it on like a high school yearbook, you know, like best dressed. Since we're doing most popular, best dressed. Right. Most likely to succeed.

What an honor that would be to get an Oscar score. Yeah, most likely to succeed. Even though we know the results. Right. Or maybe a film that's supposed to come out that gets that award most likely to succeed preemptively they're like we're really excited oh yeah yeah best most exciting coming attraction i would be so into that it's called the leap of faith award right leap of faith yeah totally but like we already reward the most

popular movies it's the fucking money yeah Yeah. It's what the money's for you guys. In the words of Don Draper and me anytime Miles complains about having to mop another blood stain. Well it's getting too much. I told you I've blood freaks me out. Speaking of Oscar winning movies guys Mighty Ducks

everybody remembers the beloved Goldberg the keeper the goalie. I'm sorry. everybody remembers the beloved Goldberg. The keeper, the goalie. Goalie, I'm sorry. I always play hockey. Shame on me. The goalie, the goaltender.

He had the knuckle puck. Wasn't that his shot? I thought that was Keenan. Okay. Who shot the knuckle puck. That's right. Goldberg was the keeper. He was one of the more likable characters. And the actor who plays him is a gentleman named Sean Weiss.

Yeah. And, oh, man. So this is, we went deep on this yesterday. So there's an image that's out there. It's a mugshot of him from the past week or so. And he looks like a 65-year- yeah because he was arrested like one of three men that were arrested because they were like the cops got a call about men behaving erratically with flashlights yes and they pulled the most meth-y shit ever yeah like they were pulling up

and they were like oh yeah these guys are drunk high, and they took him to the station. And then one of the officers commented, that one guy was really witty or whatever, really witty. And then when it turns out, it was Goldberg from the Mighty Ducks. And my goodness, this image of how much he has aged, because clearly he's struggling with substance abuse, will shake you to your core, especially if you remember Heavyweights and all those movies.

He has aged so rapidly. Also, there's one comparison that we'll put in the footnotes that is him from 2015 and then the mugshot next to one another. And it is, as Miles said yesterday, it looks like he looked at the Ark of the Covenant for like three seconds.

Maybe a little less, just a quick second. And it took the life out of his face. It really is incredible. It's like the worst viral marketing for meth ever, this image. It's just a tough thing, man. You know, like so many, and again, you see this so much with child actors.

Right. Especially, too, like, they fall into substance abuse. Even one of my friends, who was a child actor, man, he struggled for his entire life with this shit, and eventually passed away, but, like, it's really tragic, man, to see stuff like this, because

Mighty Ducks, Heavyweights, I loved him as a kid. And you can only imagine what this guy's career was like because then we started going through the IMDB and we saw it was getting a little light after heavyweights. Then he was doing more supporting roles. Like short films. Yeah, and short film.

The last credit was a sketch on Funny or Die, which they called a short film. And it's really bad. Where he's about 12 degrees better at acting than anyone else in the sketch. And that's not saying much. It's not saying much, but you can tell he's on his way towards,

it's like in between the 2015 shot and what we see in the mug shot. Yeah. Yeah, it seems like he's had the life taken out of him. It is good to know that he, I mean, wow, like they remembered him. They said he, hey, there was one wittier person and it was him.

That could be an Academy Award. Yeah. At least he had his wits. Yeah, at least he had his wits. That award. Or most charisma. Most charisma during an arrest. The sweetest person.

Best performance by someone playing themselves sort of thing. Yeah. Tom Cruise would win that a lot of the time just because he's always the same dude. He's just like this energetic motherfucker. Even in the Valkyrie, did he just talk with his regular Tom Cruise? I think so. And he's like a Nazi. He's trying to kill Hitler.

I think they did the Hunt for Red October thing where they just like, at a certain point, they're like, and we're going to speak English. We hope you're okay with that. Oh, right, right, right. They're like, you don't understand German. But they didn't even do like accents. They just were straight up like, hey, what's up? I'm German.

Hey, I'm German. Let's kill this Hitler bloke. It's like in Ghost in the Shell when people talk to her in Japanese and she speaks back in English. It was great. Even though she still had a Japanese brain. Everything's great. Yeah.

That's like me. When it's consuming Japanese, I answer in English. Yeah. So I don't know. Sorry, I just had to put that in there. I'm glad he's still witty. And here's to recovery. Yes, recovery.

It's possible, yes first of all this is a good reminder that uh you know things can get away from you pretty quickly and yeah there was actually a paul ryan interview on the daily today that where they talked about his dad was an alcoholic and paul ryan said he started drinking when paul r Ryan was 12 and was dead by 16 and like that's just an example of like yeah sometimes you have it under control for your whole life and then suddenly it just gets out of hand really quickly and yeah I mean you just need to it's very isolating you know uh addiction and you just need to be willing to like talk to somebody about it. Yeah.

And, and don't be afraid to ask for the help too, man. Cause there's so many times people just have the shame of it, but really it's, there's nothing to be ashamed of. Some people are just wired differently and this addiction illness can take a hold of you and you,

you need help. Right. And we need help and we need to be open to people. And again, like that's why I kind of feel bad even talking shit about Goldberg looking like shit because this man is struggling. Yeah. And yeah, you'd hope that he has some kind of support system around him because clearly, like, when you look at some of those IMDB roles, it was like, like bottom feeding, like L.A. types who are just sort of like, oh, we got Goldberg from the Mighty Ducks in our sketch. And it wasn't, you know, I just, my heart goes out to Sean Weiss.

It could be worse. He could be completely sober and be Donald Trump. That's true. And be president. That's true. And, you know, tweeting every morning. At least he still has his humanity, according to the police. That's what I'm saying.

Like, Donald Trump is completely sober. Right. Just a little bit. Or is he, though? Well, he's probably taking,, Donald Trump is completely sober. Right. Just a little bit. Or is he, though? Well, he's probably taking, like, uppers or something. Right. He just never touched alcohol. Right.

Who knows? Or whenever a doctor prescribes him isn't a drug. Right. Sure, sure. Elvis was the same way. Elvis was completely against illegal drugs and, like, was not a big drinker, but, man, did he take enough pills to kill him.

What was he, like, on upp on uppers yeah just he had a doctor like michael jackson did who just prescribed him whatever the fuck he wanted and so he took all of them but were they like was he into like downers or uppers i think both oh okay up up down down left right left right banana sandwich yes and that's for i mean diet works you know i think it's important to consider diet too Trump eats just the protein part of the burger at McDonald's could be the gluten that killed Elvis

didn't he have an impacted shit or something like a huge turd in his body like a 30 pounder I don't know I wonder if gluten has anything to do with that I have a quick question the interview with Paul Ryan was that him just talking about his childhood? Was that him explaining himself?

It was interesting. The theory that the New York Times reporter was giving is that as the child of an alcoholic, they're usually accommodating. That's like a stereotype of people who go to Al-Anon and stuff. They're avoidant, conflict avoidant, and they've built their whole personality around dealing with erratic people. And so for him to then have his career taken over by dealing with this guy who, for all intents and purposes, is like a loose cannon, blackout drunk. He just isn't drunk when he behaves that way. drunk he just isn't drunk when he behaves that way like that he he and also paul ryan was very you know uh didn't stand up and say anything and that that was sort of the pop psychoanalysis

in the piece it was pretty interesting okay yeah i mean he could also just be a fucking spineless evil fuck too don't have to bring in his childhood into it he could just be wired because you know he's always had the fantasy of kneecapping the safety net for poor people. Yeah. He, around the keg at frat parties, he and his homies would talk about ending Social Security. So that is Paul Ryan. So guys, real quick, we wanted to talk about the Mamma Mia universe. so guys real quick we wanted to talk about the mama mia universe uh the the sequel to the original mama mia the abba musical uh that takes place in greece it hit number two but it was a very close

number two when it came out and uh behind the equalizer two uh and people are excited about this movie uh meryl streep has has died in between the first one and the sequel because Meryl Streep just straight up does not do sequels. Oh, really? But they've got Cher to come in. And Cher is, in this movie, Meryl Streep's mother for some reason, even though it's like a five-year. But she wasn't in the first one?

She was not in the first one. And, in fact, they referred to her as possibly being dead so our writer jm mcnabb put together this theory that this movie takes place in purgatory and actually i don't know if he put it together i think it might have been on av club but so the av club put together this theory that basically time doesn't make sense in this movie people are showing up at all different times in their existence. So Sophie in the first movie is the main character. And the first movie, based on things that are said in the movie, must have taken place in 2000.

And then they say that this movie takes place five years after the first movie. So it's 2005. And her mother has died. Her grandmother's there. But her grandmother is only five years older than her mother. And also, everybody has iPhones and iPads, which wasn't in 2005. So it's presumably they're just not paying attention to details like that. Right.

Of course. Because it's like this Greek island that is almost this surreal environment, it could be read as they are all in purgatory, like lost, you know? They're all got in a plane crash or something and are all like in this in-between. And Meryl Streep had a breakthrough in-between

and she moved on out of the afterlife, out of purgatory, onto whatever her next plane of existence is. So Cher's basically fucking up. Because Cher got sent down. Or Cher outlived

all the rest of her family. And just now, he died. Oh, where my daughter at? Oh, she got out? Damn, I don't see her. All right, well, this island's cool. Here we go again. That's deep. Yeah.

How's the plot, though? I'm just kidding. So I'm glad it's a metaphor for purgatory. Right. Yeah. Are you an ABBA fan? I mean, I know the songs. I didn't watch the first one.

But like I was telling you i watched the trailer i didn't i i just haven't really followed with mama mia exclamation point and it's two right yeah um well but all i know is that i was you know i i first heard about it when i was watching uh about to go watch the Mr. Rogers documentary, and the trailers were playing, and it was like blind spotting trailer, happened first, boom, black guy gets shot. And it's like, whoa, it's a deep movie, Oakland, it's about a white best friend who's kind of like trying to be a wankster or whatever, a gangster. No, wanksters. Yeah, I didn't want to use the other word because, I don't know. And then suddenly it's Mamma Mia.

The trailer to Mamma Mia came up. And they were like, but some of us get to live like this. Different shift in tone. Right, yeah. Like this is Oakland. We're on a weird disco island. Right. Yeah, so maybe it did feel a little bit like the purgatory thing kind of makes sense.

At least even in that shift in tone and also watching. I don't know. right yeah so maybe it did feel a little bit like the purgatory thing kind of makes sense at least even in that shift in tone and also watching um i don't know it's it's about it's about a wedding and the daughter tries to she doesn't know who her dad is right i think that was the plot of the first one oh that's the plot of the this one, does end with a police shooting. So, no. Oh, good. But Andy Garcia has, in interviews, hinted he shows up as Cher's love interest and hinted that his character may have been Meryl Streep's father.

Andy Garcia is seven years younger than Meryl Streep. So it's just like this universe makes no sense. And he's getting messy. He's like, I may have been her dad. It sounds like everything's actually revolving around Meryl Streep. So it's just like this universe makes no sense. And he's getting messy. He's like, I may have been her dad. It sounds like everything's actually revolving around Meryl Streep's schedule. Right. Yeah, that is purgatory. I don't know. Yeah.

Anyways, Otzko, it's been so fun having you. Where can people find you? Follow you? People can find me at Otzuko Comedy on the platforms. And, yeah, my website, my entire name, OtsukoOkotsuka.com. Or just find me at Otsuko Comedy. Yeah.

And do you have a tweet or anything from social media that you've been enjoying of late? or anything from social media that you've been enjoying of late? Well, this morning I woke up to Awkwafina crying out of joy about Crazy Rich Asians, which made me happy. Is she in it? She's in it. Yeah, she's like an auntie in it. She has a wig on. You can tell it's a wig but she looks just

like my aunt and i don't know if my aunt wears a wig but yeah it's that that made me happy yeah yeah are you excited for that movie i am at first i was like well you know i don't um no at first i made the joke that like okay crazy rich crazy rich Asians, yay representation, but I'm more excited about the sequel, you know, Asians I can relate to. Because it's about like the richest man in Singapore. I don't know what that feels like. But you know, it is the first Asian American focused film to come out from a big studio in 25 years. So it means a lot to people. Yeah. in 25 years. So it means a lot to people.

Yeah. Like, you know, like everything you named, right? With like Rashida Tlaib being the first. We're still seeing the firsts of everything in 2018. Right. So it's like, calm down. People are like, they're going to take over. It's like, no, we just literally, Tiffany Haddish was the first black female comedian to host SNL.

Right, right, right. Isn't that crazy? I always thought there was more. No, yeah. But then we're still seeing the firsts.. Right, right, right. Isn't that crazy? I always thought there was more. No, yeah. But then we're still seeing the first. Yeah. So, that's it.

Yeah, maybe the sequel will just be about, you know, growing up with like Asian moms who don't have a microwave and won't buy one. Yeah.

And then you're embarrassed to have your friends over because you're like, wait, how do we have microwave popcorn? And I gotta be like, my mom is different in Japan and whatever.

Yeah. Maybe that's fresh off the boat. Yeah, right. Miles, where can people find you? Oh, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray. And what is a tweet

that I'm liking? Okay, this one is from The Onion because they just relate to my life all the time. And this one says, man races against time to take out trash bag with widening puncture. Because my God, I'm the fucking king of taking the wild torn bag out the can and running as fast as I can without getting garbage juice on the floor.

Right. Because I don't know why I still do it though. Yeah. Like I know it's a bad situation, but in my mind I still have the confidence that somehow I can hold the bag in a way that all this nasty shit will spill out. Can't put this back in the trash can. So I'm going to just

drag it across the floor. Yeah, drip trail. Garbage juice. Very, very reliable. Also a good juice spot. Garbage juice. One of my favorites. I think they call that Jamba Juice. At Dan Mentos tweeted, Hey Siri, do they still make grape nuts? Siri, Jesus Christ, go to sleep. And Bridget Greenberg, hilarious young comic from Cracked tweeted, can't decide if I'm

depressed or just genuinely don't have an opinion on bird scooters. Relating back to what we talked about yesterday. can't decide if I'm depressed or just genuinely don't have an opinion on bird scooters. Relating back to what we talked about yesterday. You can follow me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can follow us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and also our footnotes, which will also be posted in the description of this episode,

whatever you're listening to it on. Just click the info button. You will see links off to the information that we talked about on today's episode as well as the song that we ride out on. Miles, what's that going to be? Shit. Yes. Okay. Let's play this track from Charlotte Dos Santos,

who is a Norwegian-Brazilian jazz singer. And she's, I think, 27 or 28, but her fucking vibe is so old school and throwback that, like, my goodness, you put this on, I don't drink wine, but it made me want to drink a glass of wine. Normally I would just smoke a blunt, but this works in that like, my goodness, you put this on. I don't drink wine, but it made me want to drink a glass of wine. Normally I would just smoke a blunt, but this works in that fashion too. So however you want to get it in, this song,

Charlotte Dos Santos is called Watching You. So yeah, and the album is called Cleo. I can't recommend the album enough too. It's amazing when you hear albums that like, when I first heard it, I was like, damn, how come I didn't hear this artist from the 70s or whatever? And then I look, I'm like, oh, it's someone younger than me who's just crushing that style. So it's always nice to hear that jazz neo soul kind of thing. So shout out to you, Charlotte.

And yeah, peep this track. All right. So I guess we won't ride out on Dave Matthews' band on his national holiday. What do you want to do? So much to say. I love that one. All right. We're going to ride out on that.

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