The Daily Zeitgeist - A DeTrendber To Remember 12/2: Hunter Biden Pardoned, 'Moana 2', Kash Patel, FBI

Episode Date: December 2, 2024

In this edition of A DeTrendber To Remember, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, Joe Biden pardoning his son Hunter, 'Moana 2' crushing the box office, Trump appointing Kash Patel to run... the FBI and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:06:19 Your Daily Psych Ice. Yes. It's been a few days. I'm a little rusty. I didn't know what to say. It's Monday, December. Yes. It's been it's been a few days. I'm a little rusty. I didn't know what to say. It's Monday, December 2nd. They didn't know what to say. I know.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Holy shit. Crazy feeling. This is going to be a December to remember because I've been watching a lot of sports and there's a lot of ads. Oh, I think just leaving a bunch of big red bows around like a model Lexus. I'm like, I don't know, honey. This feels like maybe a December to remember this year. I'm those that just got this. I got a feeling.
Starting point is 00:06:54 I'm yeah, I have I so badly wanted this like the like the commercial. Like I want to wear a chunky knit sweater. It's a white Christmas in that I live in a white neighborhood and it's all white people around. And then I come outside and her majesty's like dangling some key line for me. Yeah. Brought outside and then it's hands over eyes. It's not, you're not led into a, a cornfield where you get the shit beaten out of you with metal pipes. Yeah. I see it. I see it for once
Starting point is 00:07:27 Yeah, you're gonna fucking kill me babe. No, I'm not doing no you're gonna love it. You're gonna love it It's a December remember. Yeah, cuz you're gonna fucking beat me to death Man open my eyes. Oh my god. I got the new Lexus GX 9 DNX. Whatever. They're called. Yep It was nice. She did put a big red bow on the metal pipe that her boyfriend beat me up with Oh my God, I got the new Lexus GEX9GNX, whatever they're called. Yep. She did put a big red bow on the metal pipe that her boyfriend beat me up with. That's so fucked up. Oh my God, you got to be... Yeah, this is the pipe I'm going to beat you to death with.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Thanks, babe. A December to remember. Oh man. All right. with thanks babe December to remember welcome to this December to remember first episode of December we got the tree ever we got the tree up oh I put that shit up yep you got yours is up nice we did oh my god you're like synced where I think we are trying to just bring the good vibes as quickly as possible. That's why I did it.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Yeah. I was like, put the tree up. It's something to do, something to do, something to do. You have fake tree or you go out there? You got a fake tree. Yeah. Until the guys child has like the wherewithal to be like, how come we have this thing that's poisoning our house with microplastics with the metal rod in the house?
Starting point is 00:08:42 Can we get the real thing? I think we'll keep it up because also like I don't want trees cost so much fucking money Yeah, that if you want a six footer in LA, that's a minimum like a buck fifty your pay. Yeah, it's pretty expensive Yeah, so like that's why I'm like I'll do it when it makes sense. The kid wants it for now I'm saving 150 a year. So way, when the kid wants the tree, then I can blow that on like a $7,000 Kardashian tree that won't even fit in my house. We have to put it in horizontally. Right. It's a great Christmas trees. They, I love the smell of a real Christmas tree.
Starting point is 00:09:19 They're also great instruments for introducing all new spider populations into your house, which is nice. Oh yours came with a bunch of free spiders? Yeah it always like I always find a weird spider or two around the tree or I don't know maybe it's just the Home Depot of it all but um shout out a spider. Shout out a spider. All right this is the episode where we let you you're welcome get to know us a little bit better By telling you some things that we think are overrated underrated and then we'll get into some of the stories that Are trending we're trending over the weekend Miles should we kick them off with a little underrated? Is there something that you think is underrated?
Starting point is 00:10:05 Adam Vinatieri is the kicker, right? Yes. Then I'm kicking things off. And I'm gonna ask that every time because I can't remember if it's Adam Vinatieri. I think one time I said Vinny Testaverde. Vinny Testaverde, sure. It's because it, syllabically, sort of, they're cousins.
Starting point is 00:10:21 We're gonna offend All the white Western European Yeah, I don't know some Is the Anyway, it's like a remix. It's just a yeah. Yeah. Yeah, scrabble. It's my brain. That's just how it hits my brain You know, we just said under over Why don't we get awesome underrated? Under yeah underrated just how fucking off the rails Japanese TV can be now, you know, I Can't believe this what I don't know if you've heard of this place Japan kind of have a dark history if you look before World War two. No
Starting point is 00:11:04 the the TV is absolutely like untethered, unhinged, just like you got an idea, let's make it. If it's like one of these things where writers can just like indulge themselves and then they just do that and there's no standards and practices at all. Case in point. So you're talking about Shogun? Is that Japanese TV? Okay. They let those guys cut their bellies open with knives. Case in point. So you're talking about Shogun? Is that Japanese TV?
Starting point is 00:11:25 Okay. They let those guys cut their bellies open with knives. Oh my God. Is that safe? Only in Japan. It seems unsafe. Those guys are dead. That's the line.
Starting point is 00:11:35 That's the catchphrase from Shogun. Only in Japan, brother, am I right? These guys are cutting their bellies with knives knives So there's a show that I heard about and I started to watch a little bit of it It's called killer cuts Which is interesting because that's also like a reference to like a bootleg vinyl series that I used to have when I was DJing Anyway, I was like what the fuck is this? It's a Japanese comedy show It's causing a slight controversy with medical professionals, specifically like the Japanese National Association of Anesthesiologists. Why? Oh, well, let me tell
Starting point is 00:12:12 you. So basically in this, so it's like a bunch of weird shit, like challenges that are concocted that comedians do. Like the first episode was people fighting with stun guns. It was like straight up jackass type stuff, but with like the least kind of like, they're not like athletes, they're just funny people who you get to see be like, oh, we just like hitting each other. They're wearing like wrestling singlets and like doing like the beat it style knife fight,
Starting point is 00:12:36 except with taser. It was a stun gun. Are they tied together at the hand? I wish they were, but they're not, because then you could have done my cheating thing is where you just stab their arm a bunch. Cause that's there. Yeah gotcha gotcha gotcha. I'm not going to lie. Yeah medically assisted version of freeze tag where you have a device that makes them freeze. And you get locked up. So basically this episode that is causing controversy is called
Starting point is 00:13:02 like the dying message challenge and where these comedians go to a medical office for like a gastroscopy, like I guess they're like putting like a tube down your like gut, gullet. I don't know. I'm not a professional, but they're doing like that's the procedure. But before they do it, they have to go under it, like general anesthesia. And as that's happening, right? The challenge for these person, like they have to basically have their wits about them the entire time because as they are being put under, a fucking murder is staged in front of them
Starting point is 00:13:34 and they have to try and keep their shit together long enough to write down the details of the murder so that they could help sort of like these fake detectives in this show solve the case based on like what they can scrawl out as they're being dosed with propofol. Okay. Yeah, that's a good one. It's like stuff like, Oh, the receptionist lovers quarrel like, but this, like you can see them slowly go under as they're trying to write all of this shit out.
Starting point is 00:14:02 And then afterwards like the detectives come in and they pretend to do an investigation and then they come upon the paper, which will help or not help solve the case. Cause sometimes people just write nonsense. It's just so wacky to hear, like every time I just, I described the show out loud to non-Japanese people this last weekend, everyone was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:14:22 And I'm like, dude, you know how like in the movies, people have been like, I remember very mercilessly, like what happened? They wanted to at least test that out and see what would happen. It feels like maybe it could have been a cracked video that never happened. I don't think we would like anesthesiologists are the medical profession that requires the most insurance because they kill so many people accidentally. Right. So that feels feels very dangerous, but totally worth it.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Yeah, no it is. Because I bet those messages they write down are pretty wacky. The funniest part, like, let me just show you this. Just so you can just see this guy as he's like struggling at the very end to write down the details. Like when he was in the reception room for this medical procedure, like the actors were pretending like the doctor's having an affair. So he kind of like able to piece stuff together. Then he sees the doctor get stabbed. And then this is him writing out the details. This is him writing out the details. He's like his.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Oh, oh, oh, he's trying to. And he's gone. He's out. He's out. Do they have something up his ass at that point? No, no, it was something that went down his nose or something. Oh, got it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:42 I don't know. Whatever the mouth one. No, it it. Yeah. Okay. I don't know. Whatever the mouth one. No, why was the side? Um, it was so in case he started vomiting from the fucking that he would be okay. And he had a little receptacle. He was fine. Uh, but again, wild TV, wild TV. Yet yet another time that Brian, the editor is going to have to edit out me say asking if someone has something up
Starting point is 00:16:03 their ass, their ass at this time. No, Jack. That's just, that's just a regular scarecrow in a cornfield. All right. It's usually on mad boosties. We're just watching the NBA highlight. No, well, how'd John Murray get up like that? He must have something in his ass, huh? He probably has something in his ass, right? Okay, moving along. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:33 I underrated a good lazy rift. Lazy river, baby. Yeah. We stayed at a hotel. We went to visit my parents for Thanksgiving, stayed at a hotel. We went, we went to visit my parents for Thanksgiving, stayed at a hotel near their place that had a lazy river. And usually it's like, I guess in my experience, it's been an add on for like after you've done the water slides a hundred times
Starting point is 00:17:01 and you're like, and, or you're elderly and like don't can't do the water slides because like shake you like a bag of glass. Right. And, uh, but yeah, there were only like a couple of water slides, but this lazy river, my kids were just playing in it all day long. I was playing in it with them. It just became like, I don't know, we were like making up games, creating float tillers, trying to do a full lap against the stream. You got to go against the stream.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Wow. That's your full lap against the stream with my kids is a great workout. A lot of fun. You know, you like have the experience of them like drifting away from you. Like, no, no. And you grab them. I got you. I got you.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Your brother, you got him. And you're a three man chain. Yep. Yeah. Feel like we should be exploring more alternatives to just regular pools, like more active rivers. I don't know. One thought that did repeatedly pop into my head is like, this has to be super dangerous because there's many parts of the lazy river where like nobody's looking. Oh, sure. I'm like a blind corner that lifeguard wouldn't be able to see. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:12 But yeah, I guess the kid would float around quickly enough that they'd get to him. Yeah. That you'd see the face down floater within five minutes. Yeah. It'll drift to you eventually. Yeah. But yeah, so a lot of it just like having a thing that like, you're just like trying to squeeze every last drop out of, you know, it's like, oh, it's hard to burn out on a lazy river. No, yeah. There it's, the possibilities are endless because you can have a fun time fucking around in it or you actually don't feel bad about just like laying down because you can have a fun time fucking around in it, or you actually don't feel bad about just like laying down because you're moving. And you're like, I don't know, I'm going on this liquid conveyor belt. My six year old is in a real stage where he's just loving music. He's just like,
Starting point is 00:18:54 ah, man, like the way like music makes me feel so many like emotions. And like when I close my eyes, I just like picture like all these cool things like syn Oh, like synesthesia and shit? Yeah. Yeah. And so he was just on his back on a float with like cartoonishly chilling, you know, like chilling the hardest that anyone's ever killed. Did he have like a Bluetooth or just like the ambient lazy river music? They had ambient lazy river music. It was bad. The music was not great for at times. Oh, but he was still vibing. They had some hits and then also it being Florida, uh, some kind of new country. That was not right. My taste, not my tempo. He was like, dad, what's this sound? He's like, Oh, I think this is,
Starting point is 00:19:36 this is looking for this is, this is why I'm hot by Mims. Morgan Wallen, Waylon. All right, what's something you think's overrated? Overrated, these Netflix Christmas movies. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Look, and this is kind of a specific take. I was excited that a new player had entered the bad holiday movie game. Yeah, you are a holiday movie expert.
Starting point is 00:20:00 I fucking love it. But now that I've seen Hot Frosty, The Merry Gentlemen, and Our Little Secret starring Lindsay Lohan, I can safely say that these are like bad holiday movies. Like holiday movies are supposed to be bad, but these are the bad version. Yeah, because like these films,
Starting point is 00:20:20 they understand the tropes and the stakes of any good holiday movie. Like you need a love triangle or unrequited love or romantic secret. And then you couple that with some like Christmas aesthetics and bad acting. And boom, you got a fucking holiday movie. But Netflix is doing like a slight upgrade to this formula with well-known actors, like, you know, Chad, Michael Murray or Lindsay Lohan and stuff like that. And, you know, not that I'm saying like these are the thespians of our time, but like these are well-known performers. And I think we're used to
Starting point is 00:20:52 seeing these people be in like a certain level of production where the scripts feel like they were written by actual creative humans. So there's like a certain standard you have in mind. So sadly, the bar has been set in your mind. So when you see them doing like a, like a holiday movie, which part of it is like intentionally supposed to be kind of shitty, it's kind of, it's jarring. And I'm like, yo, this is like bad because this person's like, has a career and I don't like this. You're like, this is worried about their career. Yeah. Like I'm more like, I started becoming like, what's wrong? Like, are they okay? Because this is it. You shouldn't be in this part of town.
Starting point is 00:21:26 You should not. Right. What are you doing in this part of town? Hey, hey, hey, get out of here. This isn't for you. Get out of here. Yeah, get out of here, bro. Those kids are not playing catch with that tennis ball. Get out of this part of town.
Starting point is 00:21:37 And I like the Hallmark movies because the actors are mostly unknown and you are expecting to watch some holiday horse shit. So it's like, I in the traditional bad holiday movie. Like it's comforting because it's like you're like at a holiday karaoke and everyone that's going up to sing kind of sucks at singing. But in a fun way, that's disarming. And you're like, all right, the holidays are here.
Starting point is 00:22:00 They're trying their best. Like, let's just look. Fuck it. Cool. They're living their weird dream. And these movies that Netflix has made kind of just come off as like subpar bullshit. And I think it's because the budgets are not low enough. And I think they're just doing- You just need the bottom out.
Starting point is 00:22:15 It's lacking something, yeah. And then par to me starts thinking about AI shit and like, is there like a darker ulterior motive here? Like they're priming all of us for like AI slop scripts where the audience will like breathlessly accept fatal plot holes and dialogue that comes from like a shroom induced fever dream. Sure. And so people can act like standards haven't totally cratered. That's like the part I get. But anyway, I don't like I like that the they were higher concept That's fine But then when the act like when the everything's bad and the performers are well-known It just doesn't it doesn't hit all the notes from my brain
Starting point is 00:22:53 I need it to just be all unknowns or like slightly known people like I'm fine with like Tia Mowry like one of the Tia and Tamara Mowry like one of those twins the sister sister twins I'm fine like I haven't seen you in a minute. You were doing TV. Fine. But like these other people who. Figure out where the bar is. Cause you mentioned Chad Michael Murray as being too good an actor. For no, I, I, no, no, no. I said they're well known. I didn't, I was very clear. It's not about their acting. It's about how well known,
Starting point is 00:23:23 like they're known to us. And you're like, oh yeah. They're immediately are like,. It's about how well known like how well known they are known to us and you're like, oh, yeah They're immediately are like this is Chad Michael Mark. Yeah happening. Let's go. Yeah, even then I'm like I know his face I'm like I'm like now what the fuck's going on with this guy? I'm like damn. He's only two years older than me shit I look better than him. But yeah, you know, there's that kind of stuff that happens I like the unknowns if it makes it more it makes it feel like There's that kind of stuff that happens. I like the unknowns. If it makes it more, it makes it feel like what the holiday movie is supposed to be. And I just, I realize this now, now that they're juxtaposed with each other.
Starting point is 00:23:55 The Our Little Secret caught my attention, just the title because that's very sinister. I feel like nobody ever says this will be our little secret if they're not like committing some sort of crime against me. That one's so bad because the whole thing hinges on these two people who are a little secret if they're not like committing some sort of crime against you. That one's so bad because the whole thing hinges on these two people who are like exes 15 years ago, they come back to their hometown where they're dating like these new people, but the people they're dating are siblings. So they meet at this holiday party unexpectedly and Lindsay Lohan's introduced
Starting point is 00:24:23 to her ex and they both pretend they don't know each other. And you're like, what's the point of that? Sure. Like, and everything hinges on them keeping it secret that they used to date and then eventually they fall in love or whatever. And I know I'm thinking too deeply about it, but like any time I've been, you know, like when you get introduced to somebody like, Oh, this is so and so you're like, you what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:24:44 Oh my God. What are you doing here? It's not like, oh, they instinctively pretend like they don't know each other. Yeah. Because it like it, their breakup was awkward. Whatever. I'm done. Let's move on. I'm too upset. Just give us something positive, Jack. What's what's your what's your operators? I mean, all right, I could go with America's inability to acknowledge grief or hotels' apparent need to carpet luggage racks. Like put, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:14 like the rolling luggage racks. They always have carpet on the bottom. I always find that weird. Yeah. I don't know. I was a bellhop. That was one of my first jobs out of college. It's probably more friction, right? If you will. Yes. Yeah, I think it's for friction. But like I had to, you know, we we are not the latest travelers in the world and we had an early flight. So I got to relive my old but but but to link days and go down
Starting point is 00:25:38 and get the luggage rack on my own. You know how to push it from the right side. Baby, I was like spinning that thing. Yeah, I was really trying to do an empty hall. Hallway. Yeah, exactly. They're steering from the wrong side. Yeah, buddy. I mean, I can steer from the right to wrong side to like make it do what I want it to do.
Starting point is 00:25:58 You always said, yo, I can I can steer from the back, baby. Don't worry. I do say that a lot. But yeah, it had I feel like there's always this like gray thin carpet at the bottom that I guess has to be just to like prevent really nice luggage from getting dinged. Right. It's also just like the filthiest carpet that I ever encounter. Oh yeah. That's like it's not even gray. That used to be white. carpet that I ever encounter. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:22 That's like, it's not even gray. That used to be white. Yeah. Just like a polar bear white before. Um, but yeah, I don't, uh, I don't know necessarily why it's always been carpeted. Um, but it does seem like it's just a trend that is, is always there. Got to pull a carpet on that. And then I don't know, do we have to talk about America's inability to
Starting point is 00:26:46 acknowledge grief? I can, I can say that. Yeah. I don't know. I was, I was in Florida. Uh, I was listening to, uh, Griffin Newman on the podcast, blank check, talk about this trip he took to Poland and just like how haunted, like a city that he was visiting there felt by
Starting point is 00:27:07 like the sense you and you get this in a lot of cities around the world or just like places around the world where it there's just a sense of the history and the bad things that have happened there and right there they're appropriately haunted by the events of their past because they acknowledge and live with it. And it's not just immediately like pathologized and excised from the national shared consciousness is like a thing that we got to move past. How do we move past this moving forward? I'm reading this book, The Wild Edge of Sorrow, that a friend of mine recommended,
Starting point is 00:27:45 that's all about just like looking at darkness and like sorrow and you know, the uncomfortable emotions and not trying to just like move past them. And it spends a couple paragraphs like talking about the deep water horizon. Which I think had- That movie was sick. I think the movie, I think it had just happened when the book was written and at first it like seemed
Starting point is 00:28:11 weird. I was like, why do they keep dwelling on this ecological? I don't like it. It happened a thousand news cycles ago. But then the more you think about it, the more I remember what it felt like at the time before it had been turned into a Mark Wahlberg movie. And the more I realized like, it's actually weird that like we shouldn't have passed this so easily. Sandy Hook, we should not have pushed past that so easily.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Yeah. It was, I think those things like those events, they were so bad. We like to your point, we could not acknowledge how bad it was when you're like i'm sorry this thing's just shitting out oil into the gulf of mexico yeah and then it's like yeah like we've never fucking seen before and it's destroying everything and you're like everything is there something else happening in 20 was that 2010 i think uh that we can like just do that and yeah that totally makes sense. Cause I remember being-
Starting point is 00:29:07 We get a new cycle a year down the road about how everything's gone completely back to normal and all the animals are fine with it. And actually they kind of like the oil. Yeah, yeah, exactly. The shrimp are tastier now that they have a thin layer of petroleum on them. Yeah, I think it felt like one of those things,
Starting point is 00:29:23 we just can't acknowledge how, and same with Sandy Hook, like it's so horrifying, but that, I don't know, is it just because we don't actually deal with it at that point? We're like, we need to actually rethink our ability, like what we're doing with a fossil fuel extraction or we need to rethink guns. Exactly. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:29:42 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no this other things have, remember Alan Grayson, he's in Congress and he's saying some spicy stuff. I remember that was like a thing in the news at the time. Yeah. It's just, it's not profitable to dwell on it. And it doesn't work with whatever's going to like extract the most profit from the, you know, the country. And so we just have to like move past it. I don't know. I feel like Florida is just this perfect encapsulation of everything about how America deals with any of that shit. There's just no history. It's just this clean new shopping complex carved into the natural world. I don't know. I was in like Bonita Springs outside of Naples. So I can't speak for all of Florida,, but it's like there's all this beautiful nature But like the second to any like building or cultural artifact like gets old like the second Yeah, it just gets turned over into something more profitable a Qdoba if you yeah
Starting point is 00:30:40 There's so many Qdobas But yeah, I feel like we stay optimistic because it's good for business We destroy all evidence because it's like good for business and it only like comes up through the cracks and like our horror movies or you know, like I have to assume the truth will eventually out that you can't just like stay aloft on Determination to ignore the void below you like Wiley Coyote. But we're trying real hard right now. Trying real hard right now.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Yeah. I think we're about to live through a period where we're going to see the, you know, that tested. We're going to watch the country just. Right. Just how much we can. Yeah. Deepwater Horizon passed it. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Yeah. Just Mark Wahlberg our way through it. He's going to watch Mark Wahlberg and playing Trump in some fucking movie. Yeah, I don't know. Whatever. Huh? Cool.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Anyways, fucking carpet on luggage racks. No need. Fuck it. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about some of the stuff that is trending and was trending over the weekend. In the aftermath of a transformative election like the one we just had, it's hard to read the news without asking yourself every five seconds, how did we get here? That's exactly
Starting point is 00:32:02 what we're always trying to figure out on Fiasco, a history podcast from the co-creators of Slow Burn. In our first season, Bush v. Gore, we examine an unmistakable turning point in American politics, the 2000 election, which came down to a recount in Florida and ended with one of the most controversial rulings in Supreme Court history.
Starting point is 00:32:22 In many ways, it's the beginning of the story we're living through right now. So if you're trying to make sense of the present moment, check out Fiasco, Bush v. Gore, and find out how a statistical tie in the Florida vote count put the nation into an unprecedented holding pattern, during which American voters waited with bated breath to find out whether Al Gore or George W. Bush would
Starting point is 00:32:42 be the next president of the United States. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey everyone. This is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Leighton, and Daphne Zuniga. On July 8th, 1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same as Melrose Place was introduced to the world. It took drama and mayhem to an entirely new level. We are going to be reliving every hookup, every scandal, every backstab, blackmail and explosion, and every single wig removal together. Secrets are revealed as we re-watch every moment with you.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Special guests from back in the day will be dropping by. You know who they are. Sydney, Allison and Joe are back together on Still the Place with a trip down memory lane and back to Melrose Place. So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hi, I'm Dani Shapiro, host of the hit podcast, Family Secrets.
Starting point is 00:33:56 How would you feel if when you met your biological father for the first time, he didn't even say hello? And how would you feel if your doctor advised you to keep your life-altering medical procedure a secret from everyone? And what if your past itself was a secret and the time had suddenly come to share that past with your child? These are just a few of the powerful and profound questions we'll be asking on our 11th season of Family Secrets. Some of you have been with us since season one and others are just tuning in.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Whatever the case and wherever you are, thank you for being part of our Family Secrets family where every week we explore the secrets that are kept from us, the secrets we keep from others, and the secrets we keep from ourselves. Listen to season 11 of Family Secrets on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, the secrets we keep from others, and the secrets we keep from ourselves. Listen to season 11 of Family Secrets on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jenny Garth, Jana Kramer, Amy Robach, and TJ Holmes
Starting point is 00:34:55 bring you I Do Part 2, a one-of-a-kind experiment in podcasting to help you find love again. If you didn't get it right the first time, it's time to try, try again, as they guide you through this podcast, Experiment in Dating. Hey, I'm Jana Kramer.
Starting point is 00:35:08 As they say, those that cannot do, teach. Actually, I think I finally got it right, so take the failures I've had. The second or even third or whatever, maybe the fourth time around. I'm Jenny Garth. 29 years ago, Kelly Taylor said these words, I choose me.
Starting point is 00:35:25 She made her choice. She chose herself. When it comes to love, choose you first. Hi, everyone. I'm Amy Robach. And I'm TJ Holmes. And we are, well, not necessarily relationship experts. If you're ready to dive back into the dating pool and find lasting love, finally, we want
Starting point is 00:35:43 to help. Listen to I Do Part 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hi, I'm Marie. And I'm Sydney. And we're M.E.S.S. Well, not a mess, but on our podcast called M.E.S.S., we celebrate all things messy.
Starting point is 00:36:03 But the gag is not everything is a mess. Sometimes it's just living. Yeah, things like JLo on her third divorce. Living. Girls trip to Miami. Mess. Ozempic. Messy, skinny, living.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Restaurants stealing a birthday cake. Mess. Wait, what flavor was the cake though? Okay, that's a good question. Hooking up with someone in accounting and then getting a promotion. Living. Breaking up with your girlfriend while on Instagram Live. Living.
Starting point is 00:36:32 This kind of mess. Yeah, well, you get it. Got it. Live, love, mess. Listen to Mess with Sydney Washington and Marie Faustin on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. And Joe Biden has pardoned Hunter Biden, last name is, Hunter Biden last name not a coincidence that is his son. Pardon Jesus.
Starting point is 00:37:07 However, won't be pardoning Biden according to social media. Oh, so yeah, I don't know. Everybody knows by now Biden pardoned his son Hunter who was facing charges for purchasing a gun. I think felony charges for purchasing a gun, I think felony charges for, uh, purchasing a gun when he had failed a drug test. I don't know all the details of it, but it was like he committed crime. I think.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was, he committed a crime. I think a lot of it was added scrutiny because he was Hunter Biden. And I think that's probably why that was sort of Joe Biden's reasoning was it's like, I mean, yeah, look, I mean, he committed a crime, you know, but it's because it's because everybody hates me, man. So I had to do that. It was the world, Doug. It's wild though, too, because I remember when he was convicted, he's like, I'm not pardoning him. Yeah. And it's like, bro, you know, you're like, sure, whatever.
Starting point is 00:38:05 I mean, also it doesn't seem like I don't think he was really going to go to prison necessarily, but here he is doing. Yeah, I'm not shocked at all. Whatever. Like the every like, you know, Bill Clinton pardon his brother. Remember old Roger? And you just look at like for all the I just love seeing the pearl clutching from Republicans right now It's like everything is just like you're like dude. I shut the fuck up Are you serious like you're part and like fucking Steve Bannon and like Jared Kushner's dad without fucking question
Starting point is 00:38:39 Not only do you pardon him now Jared Kushner's dad is gonna be the ambassador to France And for like- Now Jared Kushner's dad is gonna be the ambassador to France. Ambassador to France, yeah, exactly. These are, I mean, and I think also, this should maybe demonstrate to Republicans too, that there's not much difference between the two parties, really. I mean, when people ascend to those heights,
Starting point is 00:38:58 they like to use the perks of their power to do stuff like this. And that includes, you know, bailing out bailing out old hunty. Yeah. If the Democrats ever win another office, they need to put Hunter in charge of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, the ATF, you know, the move. Wait, but what about his salvation there? People are just, this guy, he's, yo, in Jesus terms, he's still fucked. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:28 John Rich on Twitter, on X. Oh, from Big and Rich? I have no idea. I think that was the same guy who played at the fucking North Carolina MAGA Fest. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Big fan of his work. That's, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Big fan of his work.
Starting point is 00:39:45 That's a big and rich, yeah, yeah. He tweeted, Joe Biden just pardoned Hunter, but Jesus won't. And then a lot of Christians took issue with the suggestion that Jesus will one day get his revenge on Hunter Biden. I don't know, like all the, so respectfully, all he has to do is ask and yes Jesus will
Starting point is 00:40:06 John when humans deny God for long enough he turns them over to a reprobate mind and is done with them read Romans 1 Lee yes Jesus will dependent on hunters repentance of course keep tenor tweeted hunter will more likely never receive Christ because he doesn't see the need. Sadly, his daddy never let him grow up. So it really took me back to like living in Kentucky. There, this was the type of shit people would gossip over about like whether somebody was saved and yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Who was saved? Who wasn't? Including a kid who died of a brain aneurysm. Jesus. Well, they were like speculating like what whatever kind of holy karma talk about like and people are really upset because they think he wasn't saved. Yo, that is so fucking disgusting. Yeah. But amen. That's that's why I love folk with Christianity. So heavy man, because this is how people talk about it.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Definitely the people who Jesus in the Bible liked and valued most were the ones who gossiped over who did bad stuff and whether they were definitely they're nailing the message yeah yeah so I am just gonna say you know who else had a powerful father and like to hang out with sex workers I don't know man yeah maybe maybe we should you know the let he who'd cast the first stone don't smoke crack with your brother. OK, yeah, yeah, something like that.
Starting point is 00:41:47 I remember the books as well as I do. You know, it's interesting. I wonder how like as as we talk about how to upset the right more and more. I feel like someone like a prominent atheist needs to come out to just be like, respond to a tweet like this or be like, yeah Maybe he got pardoned but Jesus won't and like the guy doesn't exist. What are you talking about? Yeah, what is what is what is your what is your currency? Because I can already see how much how loaded that is to say that this I'm I don't know
Starting point is 00:42:18 I'm just I'm in my bad boy era, you know Yeah, when I hear people great, when I hear people, great name for this era. Okay. My take that, take that era. No, no, no. What, what am I saying? I was watching a lot of college basketball over the long weekend and there was a, what one of the tournaments was like the bad boy mowers battle for Atlantis. I was, I was like, yeah, what a time to be throwing that name for your lawnmower company around. I just feel bad for that woman who is like, hey man, actually, you know, like all you have to do is ask Jesus and then it's done.
Starting point is 00:42:55 And then these people like to gatekeep their weird karmic police version of Christ where they're like, no, he will smite you because I don't like you. And because I can't violate the laws of earth, I will live in a fantasy world where you will be smotent. Yeah, I just want to know that word. Yeah, been finally smote until it's smote. It is kind of wild. Like people had all these ideas about what Biden could get busy doing.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Like now that he was a lame duck and there was an incoming fascist regime that he and, you know, Harris was an incoming fascist regime that he and you know Harris seemed to agree was going to like dismantle the government as we know it and you know people were like okay day one we got to get busy like packing the court and doing it and his official actions have been to tell everybody to chill out and then a like can't beat him join him pardon for his son which yeah I mean look again that's the superpower of liberalism is to see a problem yeah call it out and we got to know I'm saying yeah that's bad. And some solutions anyway. Yeah. All right big news from over the weekend
Starting point is 00:44:08 Moana to Did you see any of wicked or gladiator? I saw gladiator 2 and was it was it wacky? It's fun is wack Okay, it's that's what I hear about what yeah, it's like a B, you know solid. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Denzel like I was a little worried Denzel was just going to like have a few scenes. They Denzel is used adequately, I think. Yeah, that's what I hear. A lot of fun. Oh, Denzel's killing it. Glad you're like, oh, I didn't realize he was in it like that. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Release the kiss scene. Thank you. Yeah. Anyways, I want to talk about something. I've long been an advocate of movies over series when when in doubt, I just feel like I would rather watch a movie, have consumed a piece of art, not have like the people who made it be trying to get me to come back for another one. Like when in doubt over and over. Like they're a great series that couldn't have been accomplished as a movie. But with Moana 2, they were going to drop this as like a streaming series on Disney Plus. And nobody was going to notice that shit whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:45:20 And at some point they decided to just like chop it down, turn it into a feature film. And so I think it was expected to do like as they were coming closer to it, they were like, oh shit, like there's actually a huge appetite for this for this huge movie. That was also been in the top 10 every year of like streaming shows like across like nothing makes it into the top 10 that's not on Netflix usually Mon has been to the top 10 every year since it came out like it's it's the only movie that just like oh fucking State wait really? Yeah, it's always there. It has like the Drake's staying power like on the charts It was Drake for a long time
Starting point is 00:46:04 Yeah, so it was expected Drake for a long time. So it was expected to do $135 million at the domestic box office, which would have been a crazy amount of money for a movie to make. It would have broken the previous record of 125 set by Frozen 2, and it made 225 million domestic. Jesus. Oh, domestic. Wow. yeah, just in the U S but yeah, I don't know. I was, I was like talking to my brother-in-law over the Thanksgiving break and there are
Starting point is 00:46:34 just so many good shows. So he's like a series person. He likes to watch a good series and they're just like so many that like I didn't even notice came out. They're like, it's a disservice to creators. I'm just saying people should think about trying to like cut them down. I don't know. Maybe you could always release it as like the extended like series cut or something.
Starting point is 00:46:56 But fucking like people want movies like people, you know, to quote the Nicole Kidman, uh, AMC ad, uh, low key when you're here, shit hits different, you know? Um, but yeah, I don't know. The companies that used to like make movies got told by wall street that they should make endless amounts of streaming content. And then they dropped so much content nobody can watch it all can't all be good the entire streaming product gets watered down and i feel like the people who are up on like every show like that that's like that's their job like when i see people like
Starting point is 00:47:37 ashley ray or whatever she's watching every show but that's like entirely her like her lane you know what i mean yeah any other Any other time. Book critic. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I'm always I'm always impressed by the people who have like caught up like on almost nearly every show because I just I'm a completionist. I think that's why for the same reason I prefer a movie too, because like I'm like, yeah, I can I can watch this and then I'm like, hold on. I got to watch I got gotta do this 17 more times.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Yeah. Also my wife tends to get like, uh, into she, she's tilting on a show like after an episode ends with a cliffhanger, it's like, we gotta do one more. And I'm like, I'm trying to go to sleep before 1am tonight. Right. You're going, you're getting up in three hours. No, no, I gotta know. I think it was I don't know. I don't know if the nurse did it. All right, you go to sleep. I'll let you know. Have you ever done that where you have to tap out and then you go, all right, you watch this one and then just just when we when we watch the next one,
Starting point is 00:48:38 just just tell me what happened. Because I can't do it. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know. It's the most any movie has ever made over a five day long weekend. Um, and also it's kind of interesting, like cutting shows down into movies. Uh, I didn't realize this, but, uh, I, I previously mentioned the podcast blank check they're doing like their David Lynch series right now. And Mulholland drive is like widely agreed to be David Lynch's best movie by like critics, at least it's ranked as like the Guardian, I think did digest. They like pulled 177 film critics in 2016.
Starting point is 00:49:19 And it was ranked the number one, like best movie of the 21st century, which I watched it when it came out. I don't know. I thought it was cool, but that was originally a TV pilot that was like, like he had made twin peaks and that like hit with audiences in the nineties somehow. And so they were like, do another one. And so he was making this TV show and they were like, this shit is way too weird. Sorry, man it's it's the 2000s get the fuck out of here and
Starting point is 00:49:50 So and he didn't want to release it as a movie But like he got like some producers convinced him to ABC had like thrown out all the costumes and shit all the like had destroyed all the sets and so he like really didn't want to do it. And that's why the third act of the movie in which like all the characters swap identities is really them just like trying to trying to fix a technical problem that like they had thrown out all this shit and didn't have enough money to like. But yeah, I don't know. Like Beetlejuice 2 was supposed to be go straight to max
Starting point is 00:50:26 It ended up being like a massive hit. Oh, it did do well monetarily. I didn't even realize it was just two Yeah, be it was just be it was just said it was just a crazy. Yeah, it was a massive I count on you for this information, man. I just go I just go you just go I go where my nose takes me like like the cartoons just wafting me to the theaters with nostalgia, but yeah, I don't know I'm just saying guys get give it a chance give these movie things a chance It seems like people want to go to the movies Yeah, it's all we're gladiator to a lot of fun I still need to see wicked but wicked like this past weekend like in its second weekend out
Starting point is 00:51:03 Still made like over a hundred million. So yeah that movies Crushing people are like is it gonna win best picture because it's like it better Concerning all the people I know that are holding space right now For the lyrics will the Oscars hold space Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. That is what I wanted to happen. That is exactly what I wanted to happen. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back and close it out. We'll be right back. In the aftermath of a transformative election like the one we just had, it's hard to read the news without asking yourself every five seconds, how did
Starting point is 00:51:44 we get here? That's exactly what we're always trying to figure out news without asking yourself, every five seconds, how did we get here? That's exactly what we're always trying to figure out on Fiasco, a history podcast from the co-creators of Slow Burn. In our first season, Bush v Gore, we examine an unmistakable turning point in American politics, the 2000 election, which came down to a recount in Florida and ended with one of the most controversial rulings in Supreme Court history. In many ways, it's the beginning of the story we're living through right now. So if you're trying to make sense of the present moment, check out Fiasco, Bush v. Gore, and find out how a statistical tie in the Florida vote count put the nation into an unprecedented
Starting point is 00:52:19 holding pattern, during which American voters waited with bated breath to find out whether Al Gore or George W. Bush would be the next president of the United States. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey everyone, this is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Leighton, and Daphne Zuniga. On July 8, 1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same as Melrose Place was introduced to the world. It took drama and mayhem to an entirely new level. We are going to be reliving every hookup, every scandal, every backstab, blackmail and explosion and every single wig removal together.
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Starting point is 00:53:29 Hi, I'm Dani Shapiro, host of the hit podcast, Family Secrets. How would you feel if when you met your biological father for the first time he didn't even say hello? And how would you feel if your doctor advised you to keep your life-altering medical procedure a secret from everyone? And what if your past itself was a secret and the time had suddenly come to share that past with your child? These are just a few of the powerful and profound questions we'll be asking on our 11th season of Family Secrets. Some of you have been with us since season one, and others are just tuning in.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Whatever the case, and wherever you are, thank you for being part of our Family Secrets family, where every week we explore the secrets that are kept from us, the secrets we keep from others, and the secrets we keep from ourselves. Listen to Season 11 of Family Secrets on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jenny Garth, Jana Kramer, Amy Robach, and TJ Holmes bring you I Do Part 2, a one-of-a-kind experiment in podcasting to help you find love again.
Starting point is 00:54:45 If you didn't get it right the first time, it's time to try, try again, as they guide you through this podcast, experiment in dating. Hey, I'm Jana Kramer. As they say, those that cannot do, teach. Actually, I think I finally got it right. So take the failures I've had,
Starting point is 00:55:00 the second or even third or whatever, maybe the fourth time around. I'm Jenny Garth. 29 years ago, Kelly Taylor said these words, I choose me. She made her choice. She chose herself. When it comes to love, choose you first. Hi, everyone. I'm Amy Robach. And I'm TJ Holmes. And we are, well, not necessarily relationship experts. If you're ready to dive back into the dating pool and find lasting love, finally, we want
Starting point is 00:55:27 to help. Listen to iDo Part 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hi, I'm Marie. And I'm Sydney. And we're MESS. Well, not a mess, but on our podcast called MESS, we celebrate all things messy. But the gag is not everything is're mess. Well, not a mess, but on our podcast called Mess, we celebrate all things messy.
Starting point is 00:55:47 But the gag is not everything is a mess. Sometimes it's just living. Yeah, things like JLo on her third divorce. Living. Girls trip to Miami. Mess. Ozempic. Messy skinny living.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Ha ha ha. Restaurants stealing a birthday cake. Mess. Wait, what flavor was the cake though? Okay, that's a birthday cake. Mess. Wait, what flavor was the cake though? Okay, that's a good question. Hooking up with someone in accounting and then getting a promotion.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Living. Breaking up with your girlfriend while on Instagram Live. Living. Living. This kind of mess. Yeah, well, you get it. Got it? Live, love, mess.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Listen to Mess with Sydney Washington and Marie Faustin on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. We got another nominee that has caused people to say, can he do that? Um, any nominees, every nominee feels like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Been a real airbud situation ever since he got not truly. It's not, it's not not in the rules. Um, but yeah, the cash Patel being tapped to head the FBI is one that is definitely a lot of people like, oh, apparently he was being tapped. He was potentially going to be deputy director. But the I think it was the Missouri attorney general that Trump interviewed at Mar-a-Lago. Like Trump was like, I don't like his vibe. Like he was down to destroy like law enforcement, but they're like, he doesn't have the right quality certain genocide qua to fucking not to to be director. like law enforcement, but they're like, he doesn't have the right quality, certain
Starting point is 00:57:25 genocide qua to fucking not to to be director. So that's how Patel ascended to this position. This is what's wild about this. I mean, this guy, he is definitely one of the most brazen like loyalists in Trump's circle. And Cash Patel is in on fucking every conspiracy theory that absolves Trump of any kind of wrongdoing. Like he's into QAnon. He's anti Vax. It stopped the steal.
Starting point is 00:57:52 It's all this shit. And he has consistently talked about going after Trump's critics, much like the Attorney General pick Pam Bondi. And so he'll probably be one of the first appointees, even more so than Pam Bondi, I think, to really test like what the guardrails are in terms of what the courts are able to prevent because you think about it, he's he's going to weaponize the FBI to fuck with people that are not falling in line with Trump, probably specifically like Democrats who have, you know, been a been a thorn in his side, let's put it lightly.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Yeah. That's where you're gonna see him, again, like you're like, okay, what are they gonna tap people's phones? Typically you need like evidence or probable cause and a court, like a judge has to sign off on it. Are these, all these things gonna get sidestepped and basically just do this all illegally
Starting point is 00:58:43 just because you have all the toys to do that will the courts intervene I mean we've already seen that the Supreme Court is like I don't know dude we don't care dude just buy me a new RV and we're fucking all day so many RVs yeah because the other thing too is you don't like these people don't like any target of Trump wouldn't even necessarily need to be prosecuted. Just merely having an investigation launched is enough to fucking jar someone. Like, you know, it would make the target of investigations life, a legal and financial hell because you bleed hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees just to contend with an investigation.
Starting point is 00:59:19 And really, I think that's the point is they'll probably go after a few people, create the fear and then like, you know, then be like, you don't want that, do you? Because remember what happened to this person? Remember what happened to that person? And that's where I think is the freaky part of what we're going to see is like him truly turning, you know, turning the FBI on white American people this time. Right. So it could be very, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:45 I mean, I think this is the one a lot of people are like, oh, this guy never says no to Trump. Yeah. Don't get distracted by the fact that he wants to tear down the FBI and just like, don't don't get distracted by his good ideas because he is a full on QAnon believer. Like that's when we first were talking about QAnon, it was like this thing that existed in the depths
Starting point is 01:00:13 of the internet and now it's like the armed wing of the federal government is going to be run by someone who seems to actually believe in this death cult that Donald Trump is the figurehead of. He wrote a children's book about Donald Trump being king. Also there's this Guardian article on the Patel appointment that just mentions like other people that he appointed recently. It says Trump shows no sign of moderating his leadership choices for
Starting point is 01:00:45 his upcoming administration. Over the weekend, he tapped Charles Kushner, father of his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and a convicted felon who he pardoned in 2020 as US ambassador to France. On Sunday, he announced on Truth Social that he'd chosen his daughter Tiffany's father-in-law, Basad Boulos. I don't know how that's pronounced. To be senior advisor on Arab and Middle Eastern affairs, Bulos, a Lebanese billionaire, was active in Trump's presidential campaign. He talked, I guess, openly about how he only trusts billionaires. Yeah, right. And he's just going with the billionaires that he knows. That's where we're headed.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Or like bloodthirsty cops. Well, yeah, this one bloodthirsty cop was like, oh, this one at least doesn't seem like it's overtly corrupt. He's picked a county sheriff, Chad Chronister, from Florida to head the Drug Enforcement Administration. His father-in-law, however, was pardoned by Trump three years ago on a conviction for involvement in a gambling fraud case. And his father-in-law is a billionaire owner of the 49ers, the NFL football team. So cool. Cool. Yeah. I mean, it, it just makes sense. It's just open oligarchy, uh, step right up. Here's your chance to run something into the ground or play pretend with a
Starting point is 01:02:14 powerful position. Yeah. Yeah. And it doesn't, I mean, I don't know. It's just like, at first I was like, Oh, this, this can't be good. And now we're just fully becoming numb to how, you know, I guess this is just very normal numb to how, you know, I guess this is just very normal for Trump, though, too. Very normal Trump picks, I guess. Yeah, yeah. Just things that would be like massive red flags if you were doing them in a car repair shop, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:40 and he's doing them like running. You hired who? The guy who stole catalytic converters a bunch like wasn't he convicted? Yeah, yeah, but he now he's good at fixing catalytic converter stuff. Just family, all family. It's all family and people who've like given him money. Yeah, yeah. Well, I guess that's the secret, folks.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Just be a billionaire and just watch this space, watch this space for more exciting developments. Um, we gotta, we gotta do a Trump free one of these days. What do we think? Oh yeah, yeah. Don't worry. It's coming back. Is that what we did? I mean, that's, that's where it started. We started with Trump free Thursdays. So maybe we bring back Trump free Thursdays. Okay. Um, I think, let, let us know if you're hungry for some Trump free already.
Starting point is 01:03:30 We haven't even fucking started the administration and we can replace it with crypto tips. So I don't know. I could work too. You know, might as well get ahead of stuff. Did you see the cash? But he posted the fucking saddest image on his Twitter that was like him? Look at this.
Starting point is 01:03:50 We sat already into the guardians of the galaxy. That's amazing. Yeah. It says fight cash wizards and warlocks. Uh huh. It's such a. I don't know. I mean, like, everyone is so for lack of a better word, stupid. Um, I just don't like, it's dangerous. You know what I mean? When it's like, you suddenly you have all this like law enforcement mechanisms at your
Starting point is 01:04:18 disposal. But then I don't know if he's going to just be like, I don't know. I don't know. I'm just, I guess I'll, I'll just wait to see what happens as it happens. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, there's so much we can't control. I mean, because one version is you just want to cope and be like, oh man, these people are so fucking out of it that they're just going to be like, they're not going to get anything done. But it's also like, I, if someone is holding like a big cannon, I'm like, do I take the person who is experienced but evil or someone who doesn't even know how a cannon works?
Starting point is 01:04:52 And I'm like, the one who doesn't know how it's gonna work, I feel like they're gonna wheel it into like a crowded place and it's gonna accidentally go off. Yeah. So yeah, we'll just, just, hey, let's live in the present. And we have the great president Joe Biden who's done absolutely nothing after sounding the alarms about a fascist takeover and he's just Laying down. He's told me lower the temperature. He's that
Starting point is 01:05:17 Right now In a lazy river dude, I'm not gonna fight the current right now. I'm fucking so old, dude. That's a kid's game. I'm just going to let the current take me. That's my one note for the precox and minority report. Why not just let them float in a lazy river? That would at least be fun for them, you know? I think they're okay floating in the milk.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Yeah, milk looks comfy. All right. Those are some of the things that are trending on this Monday, December 2nd. We are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves, get the vaccine, get your flu shots. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Bye bye. It's hard to read the news these days without asking yourself, how did we get here?
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