The Daily Zeitgeist - A Mighty Trend 2/2: Epstein Files, Catherine O'Hara, Grammy's, Don Lemon, 'Melania'

Episode Date: February 2, 2026

In this edition of A Mighty Trend, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, the latest Epstein files drop, the passing of Katheryn O'Hara, the 2026 Grammy's, Don Lemon getting arrested for&he...llip; journalism?, Groundhog Day (feat. Balzac Billy), the release of 'Melania' and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Black history lives in our stories, our culture, and the conversations we still having today. This Black History Month, the podcast, I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either. Digs into the moments, perspectives, and experiences that don't always make the textbook. Let me tell you about Garrett Morgan. Brough had to pretend he didn't even exist just to sell his own invention.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Listen to, I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either. from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or simply wherever you get your podcast. 1969, Malcolm and Martin are gone. America is in crisis. At a Morehouse college, the students make their move.
Starting point is 00:00:48 These students, including a young Samuel L. Jackson, locked up the members of the Board of Trustees, including Martin Luther King's senior. It's the true story of protests and rebellion in black American history that you'll never forget. I'm Hans Charles. I'm Minnalick Lamoumber. Listen to the A building on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:10 What is something you've had to unlearn about love? That it's earned. That I was unworthy of love. That it needs to be forever for it to count. February is the month of love. Whether you're in a relationship, casually dating, or proudly single, it's a great time to reflect on yourself and what you want. I'm Hope Woodard, host of the Boy Sober podcast, and each week we're looking at love from every angle. Listen to Boy Sober. That's B-O-Y-S-O-B-E-R.
Starting point is 00:01:43 On the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What if mind control is real? If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed. with such good feelings. Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you? I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused.
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Starting point is 00:02:30 I started farting recently and it sounds like my grandpa's farts. They sound like my, it's like weird. I have like a... Meditary farts. That's what I'm saying. Genetic fart tone. Is that inheritable? I know from your grandpa's farts because he gave me one of my favorite vocals
Starting point is 00:02:53 when I fart. When you fart and then you say, huh? As if someone's called your name. You got to. You got to. But I don't I although Her Majesty's like maybe because you're just fucking getting old man ass And it sounds like a grandpa's farts now
Starting point is 00:03:09 Damn and I'm like that's that can't be what you wanted to hear That can't be the read on the situation that you wanted to hear Do not stop we stop watching heated rivalry because your wife will know your butt Is some kind of should not look like that Loose lunch meat. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Yeah, oh no He's like, I don't know, just because you're old. But I'm like, no, man.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I was like, I got to call my cousin and record one of these. And I'll be like, does this sound like grandpa's fart? Hey, say I got, I found an old recording of one of grandpa's fights. Check it out and see if he's full of. Dude, that was me right now, bro. That was me right now. That was my grandpa, bro, from the grave, bro. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Because you do like sometimes catch yourself, like in a picture or something. You know, damn. I look like my, oh, so many dad or my grandfather. The way I stand. Yeah. This is exactly like my dad. I do this thing like when I'm like I pee. Like I remember as in the morning my dad like I'd be bothering.
Starting point is 00:04:15 He's like I got to go to pee and he would like sit down and kind of like cover his eyes in the morning. Just like have his eyes adjust to the sunlight when he was. Yeah. And I do the same thing. And I was like, I'm becoming daddy. And then you fart like your grandfather. Then I fart like my grandpa, man. I honor the family tree.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Hello, the internet, and welcome to this week trend edition of Dirtely Zeitgeist. Yeah. This is production of IHeartRadio's podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And this is the episode we come in on Monday early and tell you what was trending over the weekend, what's trending right now, and what's trending with us in our hearts. my name's Jack O'Brien and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray! What a wind-up.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Yes, it's Monday. It's Monday. It's our last episode before 2000. 2000. Dude, a lot of pressure. A lot of pressure. A lot of pressure. A lot of perspectives.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Because I don't know about you. I've just been doing this thing. Head down just like, all right, on to the next one. and then we asked our listeners to hit us up with some memories because... Oh, if you're saying the way we record, I thought you're like,
Starting point is 00:05:39 yeah, I'm just going through these memories that people submit. I'm like, on to the next one. No, no, the way we record.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Yeah, it's just, I haven't like paused to look back at, uh, never, what we've done. And,
Starting point is 00:05:53 uh, my memory's broken. So I like to, you know, I appreciate our listeners letting us use theirs. 100%. Yeah. There's some amazing shit.
Starting point is 00:06:03 What a ride. The memories people have, the fact that some of y'all are flipping shit out, like, I can actually submit a lot of these already. And I'm like, God bless you. God bless you. Yeah, there are some people who are like, I listened to that, like, on a pretty regular basis. I just clipped it out.
Starting point is 00:06:21 We don't get the royalties from that, though. No, I'm just. Spam's going to get the money now. But anyways, thanks to everybody who's, submitted, we will be doing a very special 2000th episode, Tamara. Yep. But this is a regular ass old week trends edition. Before we get to the stories, big Epstein file dump, the debut of the most eagerly
Starting point is 00:06:50 anticipated work of cinematic propaganda in months. We like to let you get to know us a little bit better by telling you some things we think are underrated, some things we think are overrated, some things we think are overrated. And Miles, I like to ask you, what's something you think is underrated? You really do like to ask me that. I like to ask you this sometimes, Miles, on Monday mornings. What's something you think is underrated? Do you like to get weird sometimes? I'm a little bit of a sicko. For me, kids, kids, like politically active kids, I think he's just fucking underrated. It's beautiful. There were a ton of like marches and protests over the weekend,
Starting point is 00:07:31 And obviously there was like one for kids that we went to as a family. And it's just funny, like, most of the kids don't know. Like there's a certain age where kids really do begin to understand what is happening. But like so it's nice, A, I think for younger kids just to be like out with a group of kids. And yeah, like, hey, we're all walking together. We're blowing whistles. I don't know what this is, but we're doing something. And then you see like, it's funny because there were kids who just had signs that didn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:08:01 that were like, you know, that was just like, bad guys. I just said bad guys. And I'm like, okay, that's fine. You're four. It's like that you just, you're kind of reviving it out. Then there are other things. Just like the movie, bad guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:16 One was just like, they're like Elsa good, ice, bad. That's straight up. There you go. There you go. Let them know. I like that. We're layering. We're layering the message.
Starting point is 00:08:25 I do appreciate that they're letting the kids write the signs as opposed to like that. Oh, yeah, yeah. where they're like, my, my three-year-old said the wildest thing the other day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Daddy, if ICE claims to uphold the Constitution, it's like, no, you fucking didn't. What is the Constitution? Right. No, this was like, pure, get the kids involved, and then like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:49 So I thought it was just a really wonderful moment. And I just appreciated, like, if then it turns into just kids collecting sticks along the way that they're finding, picking up. one kid activity collecting sticks. I went with my one home girl and her family. Her daughter, she first she found like a like a strap that used
Starting point is 00:09:09 to like strap like fucking pallets to like a fucking flatbed truck. Like huge like nylon's like you know one of those you know nylon strap on it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They usually has like one of those cranks on it. Again guys, you can tell I really get my my fucking hands dirty.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Yeah. Ratchet strap. Ratchet strap. Thank you Brian. The editor. But just the strap part. then she like tied that to a log she found and just for a while was just like holding up this fucking rope with a log as her sign and I was like get it there you go I don't know what it means but it means something to you but I think it's also just really nice to see I think I think it's really meaningful for kids who are like 10 years old yeah understand what's happening to a to a much
Starting point is 00:09:50 higher degree that like there are like other people out there that are like minded or just that this is like a thing that it's normal that you want to say something. in public because yeah it's a very very fucked up time it continues to be for centuries but uh kids marches shout out all the kids hitting the streets but also my god there was a fucking there was a march there was also i'm sure plenty people saw footage like from marches and like places like seattle where there were like little kids getting hit with fucking tear gas by the fucking pigs it's again uh it's it's a mixed bag of what the experience can be but yeah i i just think uh you know credit credit credit to kids who are tapped in and also and also to the parents too who are like trying to give your
Starting point is 00:10:34 kids some perspective because I benefited from having parents who are very much like you know what's going on right now. Well, let me educate you because this is important. This is going to affect the future. So very dad, very daddy underrated for me today. All my underrated is overrated. They're daddy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:52 At this point, Denmark had one of the biggest anti-Trump protests. over the weekend too. Which understandable, I guess. Is there still tripping, huh? What's their problem? Let's see, underrated Charlotte's Web.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Do you remember that book? You ever read that? You heard about this? I've heard tell of this web. After making the All-Star parenting move of letting my kids watch Avatar over the break. We're taking a break from a media with violence.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Because my nine-year-old was walking around too much, being like, making gun sounds and shit. I was like, yeah, but like, fuck the Marines, right? You know what I'm saying? Jack, just show him fucking, just show him Rambo, dude. That's what I mean. Like, I literally saw Rambo at his age.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I went and saw Rambo through in the movie theater. But I had heard someone talk about how EB- is like a nicer, kinder alternative to Roald Doll for like reading with your kids. Like, Roll Doll is, you know, fun, clever, keeps it moving. But like, you start to notice everyone else besides the protagonist in the book is a fucking idiot. Or just like rotten. It's just very like narcissist worldview coded, you know? But yeah, so we're reading Charlotte's Web, which I haven't read since I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:12:25 And it's just like sweet and like finds the beauty in this simplicity of like very small things, makes the world around you more interesting. Yeah. And like, I don't know. I don't know that it's like necessarily a complete cause and effect. But like this weekend, they're like, wait, how does the coffee maker work? And then like we just like sat and watched how the coffee brew. I like took the lid off.
Starting point is 00:12:53 We have a coffee maker where you can like take the lid. it off and like watch how coffee works and you know just like stopping and observing like the little things around you um i feel like i'm trying to crystal meth can then inspire that kind of curiosity too for the record they were like and how can we take it apart and put it back together how did this fucking DVD player work um and then just one other one other parenting thing is just uh the pull your eyeball out and put it in your mouth uh it's like the you know that trick where you know that trick where you do like, oh, then you put it down to your mouth.
Starting point is 00:13:28 No, what the fuck? What? So it's a, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You're pretending to rip your fucking eyeball out and then put in your mouth. Hold on, let me pull it out, put it in, rinse it out. You do the little like tongue on the side of your thing. So it looks like the eyeballs in there and like pop it back in. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:49 And it's the lesser known cousin to the like pretending to pull your thumb off. That's an escalation, dude. It is a bit of an escalation. But then it, yeah, it goes back and you're like, you can do it in a horrifying way, but you can also be like, ah, good. Now I can see a little bit better. And I was just realizing that I had neglected that one. Like my kids are seven and nine and I hadn't done that.
Starting point is 00:14:14 We were having dinner with my in-laws and, you know, our family for my appas. Yeah, hold on. What was their take? What was it like when? older Korean people saw you rip your eyeball out and do that. It was, it happened in a K-pop video at the restaurant. We were eating at a Korean restaurant and they like have K-pop videos going. And one of the K-pop singers did it.
Starting point is 00:14:37 And my son was like, yo, that guy, that guy just pulled his eyeball out. Were you the choreographer on this? I was like, well, son, hold on to your ass. And I did it for him. And yeah, I don't know. I'm just like more parenting books. Like, parenting books are falling down on the job if they're not like, oh, by the way, for like three to four years, you can absolutely blow your kids fucking mind by pretending to pull your thumb off. Everyone knows that one or the less famous, more underrated version.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Pop out your eyeball, wash it off in your mouth and put it back in to clear up your freedom. Ryan, the editor said, how does my mouth, I don't know how I don't fucking know that rip your eyeball out. This is what I'm saying, man. It's underrated. I think, I don't know. Yeah, my mom's an immigrant. my dad was probably too cynical for that kind of like he was never really doing the I mean he did the thumb thing and I'll and I remember being like man knocked that shit I think he tried it and I was like bro I don't give a fuck and he's like okay I'm gonna do some new material then because you don't like that shit the one thing I did we used to do is pretend we had something in our eye and hold the little half and half plastic cup and then fucking hit it with a form I know that one now that is an escalation yeah yeah yeah now Now, see, that one I fucking know.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Because that one, that shit hits different. Yeah. All sorts of horrifying versions that you can do. My dad had one that I kind of like where it's a, if you're eating chicken, he's like, I think I got something in my throat and he tears up little napkin. And then you cough like the feathers. Oh, nice. You were eating the feathers.
Starting point is 00:16:18 See, this is the thing. As our parents age, these are the kinds of things that they are holding. within their brains that we need to extract at a speedy click to preserve these. Because this is the kind of shit like that would be in Clyde Fraser's parenting book. He's like, Swaggy tricks for your kids. You ever do the rip out your eyeball one? What we call that is Oedipus clean.
Starting point is 00:16:40 You know what I mean? Yeah. And I do go method on the pulling the eyeball out where I am screaming in pain when it's out. And in my mouth, I'm like, ah! Really disrupted, disrupted things. They're like, sir, this. Anyways, happy, happy birthday to my father. Can you leave this caros?
Starting point is 00:16:59 You're like screaming out, Jacosta, or who is Edipus's mom? Anyway. Anyways. That's what you should. See, this is the thing. My dad would tell me about how Edipus ripped his eyes out. Yeah. Because he got with his mom.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I was just talking about that. Oh, my friend went and saw a play. We were talking about how the version of the play they had was the countdown. And I thought it was a countdown to when he ripped his eyes out, but it was a countdown to the reveal. But yeah, that one's burned to my brain. Any eyeball stuff is really, you can have a lot of fun with it. Miles, what's something you think's overrated? Oh, man, as I get older, crowded bars.
Starting point is 00:17:45 I socialize a little bit this weekend going, I don't really go out to bars much. But I mean, I do like to celebrate. But there's something about like a crowded one that is so. I just, if I'm going to be in a place like that, I got to be, I need some elbow room. You know what I mean? When it's just, when it's just everybody's up on you, do you feel every just single elbow brush by you,
Starting point is 00:18:07 a fucking like light vodka is being spilled on the small of your back? Not on purpose, not because you're requesting that. No, no, no, no, definitely not. Do you mind? Just, yeah, just right. You get that down there. Right above my tribal tattoo above my butt. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Right on there. Just, just, just, you do a shot off the small of my back. But I think also, it was just one of these moments
Starting point is 00:18:31 I had where I realized very quickly like what, how, how that era of my fun brain is very much leaving me, like in terms of like, got to go out to the, like,
Starting point is 00:18:43 the popping bar because you want to be up in it and everybody's loud and it's all good. And I'm just like, I'm old as hell. And I need to, I like to sit. I like a little bit of,
Starting point is 00:18:54 of elbow room. I want to be able to talk, not like, yeah, no, so I said, what's new with you? You good? Okay, cool. It doesn't, it just doesn't. It's not for me. It's not for me. So I had this very, I like, I like, I had to like leave her magic temple. So sorry. I'm old. And my social battery is fully drained. And I've learned through many years of therapy to not continue in this environment or else it will manifest in some other weird way. And I will be like a, like, like pouty asshole or something. So I'm going to, I'm going to go. I'm going to go.
Starting point is 00:19:27 And it worked out. And it's like, using your, using your skills that you learn in therapy to advocate for yourself. But yeah, there you go. Bars,
Starting point is 00:19:36 I love a bar. You know, I love a great cocktail program. But I need some, I need some space. Cocktail program. Love a, love a cocktail program.
Starting point is 00:19:44 When they, when they're really like, we have a real cocktail program. They got you on the program. Anything with clarified milk, I'm a sucker for. Oh, yeah?
Starting point is 00:19:52 because it's so, it's like a, it feels like a, an affront to God that you would clarify milk to the point that it is clear as water, but you still have the fattiness of the dairy in a thing. Anyway, it's, don't worry about me. So that's the pool and the push is just like having to scream at the top of your lungs to, like, screamed small talk is. That's, yeah. Your body is just like, what the fuck is even happening here? Yeah, and it's, and it's, that's a young person's sport. You know what I mean? That's what I realized, too.
Starting point is 00:20:23 It's like I always wanted to be in a, just around as many people as possible as I socialized. And I think as I get older, I'm like, no, I just want to be around the people I want to socialize when I socialized too. Right. Or at least having the space to do it that it feels like somewhat, dude, dude, I'm not joking this. One dude was giving, it's like I was posting him up the way he was like trying to body me like to get to order at the bar. I don't know if it made it into the cold open like people queuing at the bar. But I, luckily. The people that got there, we were really close to the bar.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Like, our friends were sitting at the bar. I was just one body off the bar. And this one just really giving me the, just. Yeah. I, I wasn't comfortable. Anyway. Like he was in the post in a 90s NBA game. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Putting all his body weight on you. But it's as if I was hot-died. No, it felt like he, it felt like he was like deeing me up in the post. Oh, wow. Because I was getting bumped from behind. Damn. I was like, bro, you don't want this. Because if I fuck.
Starting point is 00:21:22 I'm taller. I'm more dense from the hips down. Anyway, so bars. You didn't roll off him and catch an aloeupe. I should have. I should have. I should have.
Starting point is 00:21:30 I should have just gave him the fucking alupe of clarified milk from the bartender. I give him the dream shake and then I just cut him in the bar. Yeah. Oh, shit. Actually, I will take another clarified milk. Just the clarified milk. No alcohol.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Clarified milk. Neat. Thank you. My overrated is running through a. scenario in my mind, like a thing I'm dreading in my mind. I just, I heard a guy say, like, at a meeting that, um, he has like two posted notes on his mirror, one that says it's not going to end like that. And the other says it's not going to end like that either. Um, which is like one of those, I don't know, AAA things, but it, uh, okay, got it. Like you're like,
Starting point is 00:22:13 ruminating on something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I just like, ever since I heard that, I haven't stopped thinking about it because it like made me realize how much of my, mental energy, I spend imagining like how things are going to go. And it's never it's never like the good version of things. Right, right, right. It's always just wasting energy. And like for whatever reason, like that idea of like, it's not going to end like that. It's not going to end like that either. Just like telling that part of my brain to shut the fuck up. Yeah. Has been like really helpful for me. I even
Starting point is 00:22:48 I like told it to my kids because I noticed they were like doing it about something. They were like, we have this like test and I'm going to do bad and like maybe people are going to be and I told them that and they were like that's fun and right like started like bringing it up and they even like called me on it when I was doing something they were like you're doing the thing you're it's not going to end like that it's not going to like that either and yeah I don't know like I think that this was useful this like habit of like trying to game things out and see like what the exact worst case scenario is going to look like probably was useful when the world was simpler and was trying to kill you you. You could just like imagine the bad scenarios and how they would
Starting point is 00:23:36 play out and probably like beneficial to run through those to not end up dead. Right. But like I just I find that I am rarely like it's just it doesn't help. I don't like the bad the worst case scenarios that bubble in my head are not the ones that end up happening. And so I'm just like spending, there's like a lot of mental energy and weight being given to that. I'm like giving myself credit
Starting point is 00:24:04 for being able to predict the future in a way that like I don't have. I don't do it for good things. If I did it for good things, it might be fine. But it's at that point. Yeah, there's, my therapist is like,
Starting point is 00:24:18 you should check out this book, no bad parts, which is kind of about understanding like these different because I'm like, man, because I'm talking about my mental chatter all the time in therapy. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:24:27 yeah. And there are times I'm like looking at my kid. I'm like, what will this, what will he think the world would look like when the tables are turned and I am the old man
Starting point is 00:24:38 and he is taking care of me and will he like there are times and I'm like, I have to remember everything because who knows if I'm taken in the apocalypse just some weird ruminations
Starting point is 00:24:48 and shit. Yeah. And then really I had to learn I'm like, okay, that it's coming from a good place, which is I want to, I really do want to protect the people around me very, like, that's a, that's a huge part of my personality is like protecting the people around me. Yeah, me too. And that comes up in a version that helps you like when your brain is less formed and like,
Starting point is 00:25:08 that's, that same habit can kind of like exist into adulthood. And I have to, rather than being like, what the fuck am I talking about? It's like, oh yeah, this is part of my, part of my tool set. this tool is just kind of outdated and still talks real loud. So I'm like, yeah, thank you for that. Thank you for that. Thank you for that. I know what you try to do, but I'm not going to go further with being like,
Starting point is 00:25:27 will my child sing this song to me as I lay on my deathbed? I'm like, and I just enjoyed singing to my child? Yeah. Anyways, it's like a bit of a serious one, but also it is just a thought. It's like one of those little brainworm things that I've found helpful for the past couple months so in case it's helpful to other people um it's like the what the uh thought experiment someone said because i like you know am afraid of death a lot and they're like well you're not afraid of the time before you are alive i'm like oh oh yeah oh i am no i was
Starting point is 00:26:05 i did not like that i hated that bro i was like when am i going to be alive when am i going to be a lot this bullshit fucking centuries man millennia i was waiting anyways those are are overrated underrated. We're going to take a quick break and we're going to get to the news from the weekend. We'll be right back. 1969, Malcolm and Martin are gone. America is in crisis. At a Morehouse college, the students make their move. These students, including a young Samuel L. Jackson, locked up the members of the board of trustees, including Martin Luther King's senior. It's the true story of protests and rebellion in black American history that you'll never forget. I'm Hans Charles. Our mentaliclam
Starting point is 00:26:51 Listen to the A building on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What is one thing about love you've had to unlearn? That it's earned. That it needs to be forever for it to count. February is the month of love. Whether you're in a relationship, casually dating, or proudly single, it's a great time to reflect on yourself and what you want. I'm Hope Woodard, host of the voiceover podcast, and each week this month, we're looking at love from every angle.
Starting point is 00:27:24 I don't know how to tell my partner, like, what I want in bed. The thing about romantic fiction, I would say more than any other genre of culture is that it's always put women first. My marriage stopped making sense. The connection started to feel off. The behavior started to feel different. This February, get in touch with yourself by listening to Boy Sober. That's B-O-Y-S-O-B-E-R.
Starting point is 00:27:47 I'm like, I would love to not hate the man I'm sleeping with. that's about. Listen to Boy Sober on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What if mind control is real? If you get control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings. Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you? I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused. Can you get someone to join your cult in a was used on me to access my subconscious. NLP, aka neurolinguistic programming,
Starting point is 00:28:28 is a blend of hypnosis, linguistics, and psychology. Fans say it's like finally getting a user manual for your brain. It's about engineering consciousness. Mind games is the story of NLP. It's crazy cast of disciples and the fake doctor who invented it at a new age commune and sold it to guys in suits. He stood trial for murder and got acquitted.
Starting point is 00:28:51 The biggest mind game of, of all, NLP might actually work. This is wild. Listen to mind games on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. New Year, new goals, and in this economy, a better money plan is more necessary than ever. I am Matt, and I'm Joel. We are from the How to Money podcast, and every week we help you to spend smarter, save more, and make sense of what's going on out there.
Starting point is 00:29:17 If you want 2026 to be the year you finally feel in control of your money, we're here to give you the tools and advice to help you make it happen. Listen to How to Money on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. And so we're the Epstein files. Back in the news. Part of them, partially.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Mm-hmm. Right? I think we're done here, Miles. Right. Oh, man. So the Department of Justice dumped more than three million pages of documents from the Epstein files over the weekend. And despite the fact that there are six million documents.
Starting point is 00:29:57 documents in total that they have deemed to be, you know, part of this. Todd Blanche is basically acting like, yeah, and that'll wrap that up, claiming that it, quote, marks the end of a very comprehensive document identification and review process. I like how they're really trying to use that rhetoric to be like, and that's a wrap, folks. And you go, how many other ones are we not seeing? Like, I don't know. Like, I don't know. I'm going to be two and a half million or something.
Starting point is 00:30:26 I don't know. Sure. But anyway, we don't, no need for you guys to see those ones. Right. Just these other ones that also totally absolve the, like, just, I don't even understand what they think hiding it is going to do. But clearly, I think they just want to say, look, we got some bad shit about Bill Gates in there.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Jay-Z and Pusha-T are even in there. Can we be done with this? Can we be done with this? Yeah. It is just wild to imagine what is in the documents that they're whole. holding back because these ones were not good for a lot of very powerful people and allies of the president and the president. Not even the president.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Yeah. No. Yeah. It does seem like maybe they accidentally release some of the ones with the president's name in them, which I don't know how that could be possible. But we'll get to that. First, the big bombshell, Epstein was permanently banned from Xbox Live. there were just emails
Starting point is 00:31:26 where they were like, you've been banned because you are a registered sex offender. He's like, but I actually, I know Bill Gates. Does that help? They're like, he's also probably going to be banned because, yeah, according to unverified allegations in the newly released files, Epstein helped Gates have extramarital sex
Starting point is 00:31:46 with Russian girls, contracted a sexually transmitted infection, and then had to surreptitiously give antibiotics to his, then wife Melinda Gates. Those are two emails that Jeffrey Epstein sent to himself. Yeah. On July 18, 2013. It felt like a draft of a blackmail email.
Starting point is 00:32:05 You know what I mean? It was like, because he's like, damn, Bill, I can't believe you would do all this shit and say those things about me. When, you know, all of this shit happened with these Russian women and you asking for antibiotics to give your wife, yeah. I don't mean, I think the other part that was clear too was like, you know, before this you're like there's no there really there's nothing new information that maybe like people were being trafficked to other people or there's no there other like no more threads
Starting point is 00:32:33 to follow it's like dude there's a lot more to suggest that he was trafficking children women to whoever to other people but okay yeah yeah yeah also him emailing incriminating shit about bill gates to himself seems like the like blackmailer equivalent of like someone mailing a script to themselves to like try and get trademark. It seemed to suggest that his M.O. was doing favors for rich people and then blackmailing them. Like we certainly don't see evidence in his inbox
Starting point is 00:33:07 that he's like some shrewd financial mind. He's just the guy who the shrewd financial minds go to in order to get horrible stuff. Yeah, he's like a fixer for the depraved. Yeah. Like is what everything that you read. Because yeah, like to your point, Like, I don't, was anyone being like, I don't know, they were a couple of interesting stock tips he had.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Right. In these emails. Because everything else is shit like Elon Musk, like thirsting for the island in emails, which is. Elon Musk ones are wild. There's also Brett Ratner, like photos of on the weekend that Melania comes out. The director of that, Brett Ratner, photos of him lounging on a couch with Epstein and three women whose faces have been redacted. The case against Prince Andrew got way worse. But the files are full of humiliating emails from Elon,
Starting point is 00:34:00 desperately begging to go party at Epstein's Island, which he's been like, he kept trying to get me there and I turned it down. If anything, it sounds like, bro, you kept trying to go and you somehow weirded Jeffrey Epstein out. And he's like, yeah, maybe not. The other thing is too, while again, like we're saying, because there's other allegations like that,
Starting point is 00:34:20 Like one person saw Robin Leach like strangle somebody and like all kinds of, you know, like even the stuff about pusha T and Jay Z like the timelines are very odd. But again, a lot of these are like the allegations. This is, these are actual emails because the way Elon Musk is like these emails have been misinterpreted. So it's not that these emails are fake. They've been misinterpreted when you say shit like quote, Epstein asked about if you needed a helicopter, go to the island. And he said it's probably just Tallulah and me, his ex-wife. what day slash night will be the wildest party on your island? Do you have any parties plan?
Starting point is 00:34:55 I've been working to the edge of sanity this year. And so once my kids head home after Christmas, I really want to hit the party scene and st. Bart's or elsewhere and let loose. The invitation is much appreciated, but a peaceful island experience is the opposite of what I'm looking for. If you know what I'm talking about. If you know what I mean, emphasis hours and not on that email.
Starting point is 00:35:15 But, okay. Yeah, there was also an email where, Jeffrey Epstein was like, hey, you should come through New York. The UN diplomats will be there. And he, he like clasped back and he's like, do you have any idea how busy I am? Like I'm the most busy person in the world. Like, I don't have time.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Flying to New York to hang out with UN diplomats is not my idea of a good time. And then he's like, dude, I was joking. It's going to be sick. There won't be anyone over 25. Yeah, literally. But yeah, he says he's hoping to attend the watch. The wildest party possible at one point says, Girls FTW,
Starting point is 00:35:53 Girls for the win, which ended with Thank you, good sir. Dude, that is... It's funny too, because now Musk is like, nobody fought harder for the release of the Epstein files. I... Okay, dude. It sounds like you knew
Starting point is 00:36:09 what was... When you sound like you knew what the fuck was going on with Epstein parties and you desperately wanted to be there. And maybe you were. And maybe you're lucky. These emails only show a fraction of what actually happen because again, there's still a gigantic amount of documents still missing. And I think, I think, again, like a lot of these things are just, they want to get the salacious out so they can be like, this, this celebrity is named and this celebrity is named when it's not
Starting point is 00:36:33 necessarily tied to something specific, although there are, like, there's one of like push a tea and like Harvey Weinstein in 2007. It was like such an odd timeline. I'm like, why were they hanging out like right after? okay but and very interesting. Was that after? What was the year that he got like officially convicted of 2008? 2008, right. Was when, yeah, is when Epstein like everyone, so everyone who claims post-2008 friendship
Starting point is 00:37:04 is like, bro, that's after. Yeah, yeah. The emails from Elon Musk are after. Hi, Jeff, I was thinking of flying down for an epic vacation, a party, girls for the win. I cleared my calendar. What are the details? Thank you, good, sir. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:37:21 And then Jeffrey Epstein's like, hey, I actually can't make it. Yeah. I can't come. Like, think about how off-putting you have to be, to be one of the world's richest people
Starting point is 00:37:33 on your way to being the richest person ever. And the guy whose entire M. O. is blackmailing rich guys is like, oh, I can't make it to blackmail you. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:43 That means I have to be around you. It's, it paints, are really, I mean, again, for all of the emphasis, a lot of people being like, whoa, look at all these other things. It's like, bro, there's still so much shit about Donald Trump in there. Yes. That again, sorry, bro, you're not going to beat the allegations. Donald Trump. I mentioned more than a thousand times. He came through and was like, not only does it absolve me, it's the opposite of what people were hoping, you know, the radical left, which is a weird way
Starting point is 00:38:11 to describe documents that literally accused him of forcing 13 to 14 year old to perform a sexual act on him. Or having these like calendar girl parties they were talking about where they're like auctioning kids off? Yeah. Again, these are corroborated tips. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:31 So that's the thing. Like you could say like, oh, they're just like putting some shit out there that's like over the top and can't be chased down. so that people, you know, waste their time on those. But then shortly after posting them online, the DOJ suspiciously deleted them. Right. But then at that point, it was too late, as Patrick Stewart said,
Starting point is 00:38:54 and extras. People had already seen everything and downloaded it. So it was out there. But the other thing that I think is even, like, again, allegations or like these, you know, tip line documents that were sent to the FBI that people were looking at. They're like, what, this person did what? the hearing from the survivors themselves
Starting point is 00:39:12 basically be like, what the fuck is going on? Because you were talking about protecting us and not naming us. Yet in these documents, we're named. And the fucking perpetrators are protected. They've been redacted.
Starting point is 00:39:26 So what the fuck is that about? And I think, again, just shows that this is just part of an ongoing cover up that, you know, if any of this shit came to light that people were like, not that part. where it's a straight up irrefutable evidence or whatever the fuck or something that would really change the people's opinions, I guess more so than they already have.
Starting point is 00:39:48 They just absolutely don't want that out there. Yeah, one of the most widely shared emails found Epstein praising the torture video that somebody sent him, but it redacted the name of the recipient for some. Right. You might want to know, but I said, well, where are you? Are you okay? I loved the torture video, read the message sent on April 24th, which appeared to have originated from Epstein's email address. the mystery recipient responded, I am in something.
Starting point is 00:40:13 I'll be in the U.S. the second week of May. It's like, that's kind of a thing we'd want to know who that person is. But yeah, yeah, redacting the information to protect the victims was supposed to be the reason for the delay
Starting point is 00:40:24 in releasing the files. Right. So, yeah, just the point, what have you been doing with these documents, if not redacting information?
Starting point is 00:40:33 We'll tell you what. We're protecting, we're not protect, we're protecting the fucking oligarchs who are shitting, the bed right now. Yeah. People on the right have decided to focus on the fact that Miran Nair, the filmmaker and mother of Zaraamam Dani, was briefly mentioned in the files in reference to an after party for her film Amelia that was hosted by Maxwell. The amount of
Starting point is 00:40:55 AI slop I saw around this was so fucking wild. Like, it was like, it was as if you're like, hey, uh, whatever, chat GPT, make a photo of Zorn Moundani. being held as a baby by his mom with Jeffrey Epstein behind her. Or there's another one who's like a 12 year old Zeran and then like Epstein, Bezos, Bill Gates, Bill Clinton. Like, look, it
Starting point is 00:41:21 looked like a QAnon on me or something. Oh, yeah. And see? Look where this guy comes from. Yeah, they're working up an Empire Strikes Back twist where Epstein is really Zeran's father like around those images. Even though Zeran would have been 18 when that movie came out.
Starting point is 00:41:38 You know, Epstein had access to technology we didn't know about. You know, he was doing a lot with Stephen Hawking and time travel. Stephen Hawking. Yeah, like there was a tweet where someone was like, kind of feels like they started the incursion into Minnesota, the military takeover of Minneapolis to distract from the Epstein files. And now they're releasing Epstein files to distract from what ICE is doing. And like it, I am like expecting.
Starting point is 00:42:08 some wild shit to happen in Minneapolis like some horrifying overstepping to happen in Minneapolis now to be like hey I mean there are already I mean if you look just over the weekend there's plenty of accounts of ice age just like you know pistol whipping
Starting point is 00:42:24 kids like it's not stopping it's not stopping I think I think their whole thing is they're just they're doing the abandoned thing of like just flood the zone they're going to have they can maybe only keep news coverage outrage going for like one of the three, you know, topics in this Omni crisis.
Starting point is 00:42:42 But at the end of the day, that's not stopping people from reporting what's happening. And I still think it's interesting to see that people are still rightly focused on the shit that's happening with ICE and also being like, and yeah, continue with the Epstein files. Continue with all of that. Let's see, let's see if you'll actually bring anything to lighter, just kind of prove everybody right by covering up to even like more extreme degrees. We demoted Bovino.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Can you guys be cool now? Yeah, just as a story came out about him calling the, I believe is like the attorney general or maybe the DA, one of like the top lawyers in Minneapolis or Minnesota who's like an Orthodox Jewish person. He's like he kept calling him the chosen person like in their face to face meeting. And he's like, you know, Orthodox Jews also commit crimes on Saturday. So you can't take days off because he's orthodox. You're like, of course.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Yeah, the guy who dressed up as the SS is. also a fucking, like, mentally. Yeah. He's fully there, of course. No surprises. Let's take a quick break. And we'll come back and talk about some other stuff that happened over the weekend. 1969, Malcolm and Martin are gone. America is in crisis. At a Morehouse college, the students make their move. These students, including a young Samuel L. Jackson, locked up the members of the board of trustees, including Martin Luther King's senior. It's the true story of protests and rebellion in black American history that you'll never forget. I'm Hans Charles.
Starting point is 00:44:16 I'm Minnick Lamouba. Listen to the A-building on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What is one thing about love you've had to unlearn? That it's earned. That it needs to be forever for it to count. February is the month of love. Whether you're in a relationship, casually dating, or proudly single, it's a great time to have on yourself and what you want.
Starting point is 00:44:42 I'm Hope Woodard, host of the Boyceover podcast, and each week this month, we're looking at love from every angle. I don't know how to tell my partner, like, what I want in bed. The thing about romantic fiction, I would say more than any other genre of culture, is that it's always put women first. My marriage stopped making sense. The connection started to feel off. The behavior started to feel different.
Starting point is 00:45:05 This February, get in touch with yourself by listening to Boy Sober. That's B-O-Y-S-O-B-E-R. I'm like, I would love to not hate the man. I'm sleeping with. I don't know what that's about. Listen to Boy Sober on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What if mind control is real? If you get control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have?
Starting point is 00:45:31 Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings. Can you hypnotize someone? into sleeping with you? I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused. Can you get someone to join your cult? NLP was used on me to access my subconscious.
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Starting point is 00:46:10 at a new age commune and sold it to guys in suits. He stood trial for murder and got acquitted. The biggest mind game of all, NLP, might actually work. This is wild. Listen to Mind Games on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. New Year, new goals, and in this economy, a better money plan is more necessary than ever. I am Matt, and I'm Joel. We are from the How to Money podcast, and every week we help you to spend smarter, save
Starting point is 00:46:40 more and make sense of what's going on out there. If you want 2026 to be the year you finally feel in control of your money, we're here to give you the tools and advice to help you make it happen. Listen to How to Money on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And first off, very sad news that Catherine O'Hara, one of the funniest people on Earth passed away at the age of 71.
Starting point is 00:47:11 The rest told people that she passed away after a brief illness. But yeah, I mean, just so funny, working right up until the end, really funny in the studio. I remember, yeah, right when we wrapped a recording, I remember just opening up my phone and I was just yelling. It was like, Catherine O'Hara died. 71. I wonder, man, she wasn't at the, she wasn't at the Golden Globes. So I don't know if it was like anything connected to all that, but my God, I was telling somebody, I was like, that was like one of my first white TV. moms. Like one of the first white ladies I saw in a thing and I was like,
Starting point is 00:47:50 that, that's a mom. Like, and for whatever reason, like her acting as a mother in Home Alone, I was like, she's, she's worried about that kid this lady.
Starting point is 00:48:00 For whatever reason, have always, I think like most people who aren't Canadian, who didn't have any idea what SCTV was prior to Home Alone. That's like kind of like the sort of debut of Catherine O'Hara into your life. It's so good. all the Christopher guest movies. Oh, just a fucking powerhouse performer.
Starting point is 00:48:20 The whole reason for watching Schitts Creek. She's incredible. And also my favorite, Orange County. She's in that. Orange County. A legend. I'd like to protoze toast. Yeah. NPR, I don't know if they got your input on this one,
Starting point is 00:48:36 but NPR released this oddly specific tribute. Catherine O'Hara played drunk better than anyone. Jesus. That was like that one producer that died And there was like an agent who was like They were one of the top all time broads When you're like, is that worth quoting? Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:56 That's the first quote you're going on? But it has that vibe of like an agent with a like a manager With a cigar in their mouth like, Catherine O'Hara played drunk better than anyone. There's a lot of other great things that you did. And I mean, really you obviously I think outwardly Everyone was like this person seems so nice, so sincere. so genuine, hearing all of these people that worked with her say those things, too.
Starting point is 00:49:19 You're like, oh, man. Yeah. It's a shame. RIP to a great. To Catherine O'Hare. Look at that. The Grammy Awards happened. Did you watch?
Starting point is 00:49:29 No. NERP. I saw Bad Bunny's speech, but I didn't, I didn't watch the, I haven't watched the Grammys and fucking ever. Probably. I know, man. I see the, I always see the clips, but I don't, like, in terms of the last time I was like, Clipped performances. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:49:44 it's Grammy Sunday I was maybe in college Yeah I have a tough time thinking about giving a shit about the Grammys That was actually one of the memories That one of our listeners sent was like During a Grammy wrapup Jack randomly said I'm so seepy
Starting point is 00:50:00 And hungry Which sounds right Because I have a hard time Getting the momentum going for Grammy wrapups But a few moments of note Sher presented the award for record of the year and initially announced that the winner was Luther Vandross rather than Kendrick and Sizzle for Luther.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Okay. I saw that headline, but now I'm like, okay, now let's, I need to hear what she did. And the Grammy goes to. Oh, open up that letter. He told me he was going to be on a prompter. No, Cher, open the envelope. She realized that she had it in her hand.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Oh, the Gamer goes to Luther Ganges. Luther Gangros. Luter Gengroes. Hey, who's that? Luther Gengroes? That was a... Oh, the Gamer goes. Grandgros.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Wait, you're going to say it again? She didn't correct, so. What about Cizza? What about Cizza? She wasn't going to try and... She wasn't going to try in John Travolta. The wickedly talented Adele Dazim.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Oh, let me go to look at Gangoros and Sizzler. Oh, share. Share. She did say after the fact that
Starting point is 00:51:29 her presentation was a hat tip to Catherine O'Hara for being one of the best people at playing drunk. Hell yeah. Dude, fucking yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Let's see. Bad Bunny became the first Latin artist to win album of the year. So that's bad bunny. On his way? Continues his world dominates on his way to the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Yeah, I had a great speech too. I think it's what, I'm not sure this is why, but he was talking about how, like, love will defeat hate. You know, a lot of things we hear of like a lot of artists, especially talk about that. But like Riley Gaines, that terrible mid-ass swimmer Riley Gaines transpobe was like, the left is trying to weaponize love is what she said today. And I was like, was that a response to that?
Starting point is 00:52:14 But that's so stupid when you're trying to. trying to be like, guys, ignore the concept of love. The left is trying to use that to like gotcha us in a logic. Oh yeah, this was, I think she was also talking about how a lot of people were also upset about seeing that five-year-old Liam Ramos, who was taking away to an ice camp. But she's like, they're trying to, they're trying to fucking use your heart and your humanity to convince you that you're completely ideologically fucked up. And that's not right. Yeah, related to that on this morning's Dolly Parton episode in the show notes at the end. There was a moment where the federalist attacked Dolly Parton for her non-judgmental way of viewing the world.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Red flags for being a comic. Feels like you could. Oh, this motherfucker accepts people, holy. Yeah. Uh-oh, alert. Not all my watch. Fuck that. The other thing, Trevor Noah hosted it, said that Bill Clinton and Donald Trump hung out on Epstein.
Starting point is 00:53:24 He said, Song of the Year that is the Grammy that every artist wants almost as much as Trump wants Greenland, which makes sense because Epstein's Island is gone. He needs a new one to hang out with Bill Clinton. Both sides. Both sides. Boom. Trevor Noah, you did it. Because now they're going to say, look, I hit them both guys. I hit them both.
Starting point is 00:53:46 God, let me. And then Donald Trump. Also, great delivery of that joke, by the way. By the end? Yeah, you're like, there's a Grammy of the Year. Grammy of the Year. I sold it. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:59 I'm not Trevor Noah, you know. Did you see Trump's response to that? Yeah. So that's what I wanted to get to. He said, Noah said, incorrectly about me that Donald Trump and Bill Clinton spent time on Epstein Island. wrong, went on like, you know, saying that he had never been accused of that, has never been anywhere close to it. Noah, a total loser, better get his facts straight and get them straight
Starting point is 00:54:24 fast. Get ready, Noah. I'm going to have some fun with you. Now, this, I got to say, I'm back in my 12-year-old bag of watching a bunch of World War II documentaries again. I don't know why. I couldn't possibly know why. But I'm just thinking of like the beginning of 1945, Hitler stopped making public appearances and Gerbils was the one.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Basically getting out in public and getting the people all fired up, defend Berlin and shit. And it's just funny because it's like, it's because he couldn't do it anymore that they're like, fucking hide the guy. He's so frail now. So high right now.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Hide him. Yes. You had, gerbils being like, hey, I got ideas. I'm kind of cool. I got energy. And it's like, whatever. These tweets, too, it reads like, I feel like these are fully Stephen Chung now. Like, this isn't Donald Trump anymore. Stephen Chung understands his voice. Donald Trump is just like, because the way it's just like, oh, we're going to have some fun with you. It reads like the master troll in chief Stephen Chung being like, whoa, I'm going to pretend to be the president and now get really, I don't know this.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Everything feels very late stage. Get ready, Hogan. I'm going to have some fun with you, brother. It's like just wrestling promo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't know, I don't know who's talking anymore. I don't know who's talking anymore. But I get it.
Starting point is 00:55:53 This definitely feels like a previous era version of Trump, you know. Yeah. And again, what are you going to sue him for? And then is there going to be a discovery process where they're like, oh, it's these documents. Well, there are the other documents that maybe need to come out. Yeah. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Because also, too, let's not forget that at the end of last week, a bunch of black journalists were arrested for supposedly inciting this like riot demonstration in a church in Minneapolis where like the pastor was involved with ICE. But yeah, that was a whole, I mean, that was real fucked up. Like they even got Don Lemon. Yeah, arrested Don Lemon for nothing because apparently the DOJ tried to get a judge to sign off on their arrest previously and the judge was like, nah, bro, what the fuck you're talking about?
Starting point is 00:56:39 So they do's their favorite grand jury, who I don't know what they showed them to or what they told them to get these people indicted. But yeah, I mean, that's, like, aside from like the threats of silencing Trevor,
Starting point is 00:56:52 no, like Donald Trump has absolutely gone after journalists and specifically these black journalists because again, this is a white supremacist clown show. Can I also add that they got Don Lemon on the face act? Charging a black man with a, civil rights crime. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Is fully insane. Yeah, they're like, we're going to use clan laws to go after you. And you're, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is just a very, yeah. Yeah, he was released with, without bail. Yeah, and his own recognizance. Yeah. Matt, Matt Walsh was like, okay, part one, good job.
Starting point is 00:57:25 But you cannot release him, whatever you do. We need to keep him in prison and prosecute him to the fullest extent of the, oh, shit. He's, he's been released. already. But yeah, like, they're like, we're, anti-abortion activism is probably the same
Starting point is 00:57:42 as going to a church. I don't know. Let's, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Steven Spielberg, egotted,
Starting point is 00:57:51 and the Dalai Lama won for Best Metal Perform. Sorry, no, for his audio book. This guy fucking has an e-god. Spielberg. You got it,
Starting point is 00:57:59 baby. He produced the musical documentary music by John Williams. Oh, that makes sense. Luckily, he has someone who's such a huge part of music as John Williams. He's like, as a buddy, like, hey, bro, I'm trying to get this fucking God, man. Is it cool if I just say I produce this? All right, thanks.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Groundhog Day. This is, okay, I was going through this, and I have one question about this, this fucking Balzac Billy of Alberta. Yeah, the lesser known. So Pugsatonic Phil reportedly saw a shadow. meaning six more weeks of winter are ahead. But Alberta has Balzac Billy, who I guess just copied off of
Starting point is 00:58:46 Puncto Turing Phil, six more weeks of winter also. But he's literally just an adult man in a groundhog mask. Groundhog mascot costume. I have to know, because I know there's Canadian Ziking. Please explain the purpose of Balzac Billy, because I get when you have like Connecticut,
Starting point is 00:59:05 wouldn't Connecticut have some like duck or some shit? Yeah, scramble the duck. Scramble the duck. Like, that's an animal, right? And you can't be like, all right, dude, you get what's going to happen, right? If you see your shadow, it's this. If you don't, it's this.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Like you can still kind of attribute some kind of like natural world magic to an animal seeing the shadow. Whereas a guy and a fuck, he's out there being like, all right, what's it going to be today? Yeah, yeah. Zach Billy? What am I going to see my show? What do I want to do?
Starting point is 00:59:34 You're saying that Balzai Billy can be bought? I'm not saying he can be bought. I'm just saying that magic of an animal just off instinct doing a thing and trying to say that attribute that to an outcome in our human world. I think it's just there's no magic if it's a guy dressed as an animal. You know, like if they're like the World Cup squid or that octopus that was like, I don't know. Yeah, the whole point is that it's an animal's instinct.
Starting point is 00:59:57 It's fiving out. Yeah, it's fiving it out. Where if the coin flip. You dress a guy as an octopus. Octopus and they start picking fucking winners of a game. You're like, was this draft Kings?
Starting point is 01:00:06 Like a fucking op happening with some person doing this? So I don't know. Do they take action on Balzac, Billy? Because then I would look into that. That would be a problem. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:15 If suddenly the the six more weeks of winter odds searched. Oh, God. I didn't check the markets. What did CNN say from Holly market or tell you? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:25 And finally we get to Melania. Oh, God. Because over the weekend, they held it back from critics. Critics finally got a chance to see it. We also got the box office results. Let's talk about the critics first because they have hailed it as pure nothingness, propaganda that doesn't have a single redeeming quality. Okay. Not unlike a medieval tribute to placate the greedy king on his throne. I don't know. Okay. That's your that's your opinion. In terms of like what is actually happening in the
Starting point is 01:00:55 documentary because I was a bit curious about that myself, Melania Trump, walking from liminal place to liminal place in five inch heels is the plot summary. She is described as a scowling void of pure nothingness in this ghastly bit of propaganda. I think the best summary came from Sean Burns from North Shore
Starting point is 01:01:17 movies whose summary on Rotten Tomatoes is at least Lenny Reefenstall could frame a shot. Green splat. Wow. Wow. Yeah. I saw Francesca if you were in Tini over the weekend
Starting point is 01:01:33 and she said she went just to kind of like try and talk to some people they were leaving and she was like I couldn't even believe like it's just so hard to watch like it's just you have to be fully in the cult to even sit through that and be like that was a coherent thing that I watched.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Right. What did she? Were there a lot of people there? A few. A few. A few. It wasn't totally empty but she's like it wasn't packed out.
Starting point is 01:01:58 But she was like, anyone I talked was like had a blank look on their face. Yeah. Did you see the tweet from Nick Adams? Yes, that fake-ass tweet about the guy with the daughters who did not take it. We got to go through this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is at Nick Adams in USA.
Starting point is 01:02:17 He's bestselling author endorsed by President Trump, founder and CEO of Flagg USA 1776, naturalized American citizen. And also, let's not forget, this guy is an Australian. fucking loser who wants to be MAGA so bad. Like that's his, he's like from Australia. He's like, oh yeah, mega, am I? Gonna go or do that. Talk some shit about it.
Starting point is 01:02:39 So really, this should be probably red in a kind of fucking accent. You want to read it? Sure, wait, is it? Oh, yeah, here it is. Yeah, so this is Nick Adams, USA. And this totally happened because this guy is such, is such an upright person.
Starting point is 01:02:55 He said, I'm settling in for sharring of Melania and the theatre is packed. Earlier bystander asked if I was heading in to see Avatar, and I stopped dead in my tracks. Avatar, no, son, I curtly replied. I don't watch woke movies. I'm here to see the groundbreaking documentary about our incredibly talented first lady.
Starting point is 01:03:14 The men's two little girls began jumping up and down, pulling on his sleeve and begging, Daddy, we want to see Malania. But, but, he stammered, I thought you girls wanted to see Zootopia too. No, no, no, no, they said. said, now nearly shouting, we want to see Melania. She's the most beautiful first lady ever.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Their father was scrambling, stressed out, and disoriented. This is like, we're halfway through, by the way. We're halfway. Clearly this anecdote started out with him being like, all right, I'm going to, first I'm going to like create a scenario where I own some lib who for some reason is like, hey, are you going to see Avatar? Even though they're not going to see Avatar, just going up to a stranger being like, hey man going to see avatar and then but like he like you can see how the story like evolves
Starting point is 01:04:05 in his mind because it starts with him only being like no way would i watch avatar i'm going to i don't watch woke movies and then like he's like whoa what if there are two little girls there it's also just odd what he's saying he's because he starts off i'm settling in for a pack thing and earlier okay so maybe because he i guess had so many tickets so he's he's scrambling He's stressed out. He's disoriented. He goes on. Gales, I'm afraid you aren't the only ones who are captivated by President Trump and his beautiful wife. I said, kneeling to get on their level. Virtually everyone in this theater is here for the 7.30 p.m. showing, and it's been sold out for days.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Tears began to well up in their eyes. But, I said in a hush tone, I happened to have a few extra tickets with me, and I'd like you and your dad to have them. They jumped for joy and began hugging their father. He looked relieved as he wiped the sweat off his brow with a smile. I handed him the tickets and pulled him close. Raise these girls right, I whispered. Teach them to be classy, conservative women of faith like Melania. Don't let them become like Megan Margle.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Capish? He hugged me and thanked me profusely. What are you going to do now? He asked. Don't worry about me, son, I told him, with a twinkle in my eye. I've already got tickets to the next showing. Oh. Fuck yeah, dude.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Hang out here in the lobby of this movie theater and keep accosting people about going to see Zootopia and Avatar. Don't worry about me, son. Don't worry about me, son. You were walking through the theater with just three tickets on you when you were just. So you were buying multiples without. You were by multiples. Okay. And then just, whoa, I was going to take.
Starting point is 01:05:54 take up three C. I was going to spread my shit out, but instead you got to let these kiddos. Yeah. Anyways. As that story might suggest, the movie made $7 million of the box office, which is bad for a $75 million movie,
Starting point is 01:06:11 but the right is trumpeting it as a win because it exceeded expectations that they set. Actually, the expectations heading into the weekend were $8 million, but they're being like, it's the most successful documentary in a decade because I'm going to go ahead and guess bought some tickets.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Yeah, I mean, there were Republican groups that already were doing. They're like, hey, local Republican group. We bought out every ticket. Come through if you want. If not, it's fine. We have to give our money to Trump. Yeah, we knew this was going to happen.
Starting point is 01:06:43 There were like documented examples where they would have, buy out the whole theater and then like have let people come for free. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Brian has a good point that that Nick Adams was clearly planning to buy out the whole back row so he could jack off
Starting point is 01:07:02 in peace to the Melania. Jesus. Yeah, mate. I'm not a sicker. What a true story. I bought a Melania popcorn bucket. And I'll do it like that, mate. Is that the least true story that we've heard someone tell?
Starting point is 01:07:17 Like, that's up there. I mean, all of his tweets are spurious, mendacious. at best. So it's always like he always will do something like that. Like he's definitely like loves to engage in the kinds of things like, I'm at a liberal coffee shop right now type of shit. Oh, he's the liberal coffee. He's one of those guys.
Starting point is 01:07:37 He engages in those kinds of things where he's like, he makes up fake liberal people he's talking to, makes up fake conservative people he's talking to to just reinforce the non-existent reality. It always feels especially full of shit when it's like, like we were talking about earlier with the signs when it's like my, you know, the tweets where people are like, my three-year-old came up to me.
Starting point is 01:07:57 And, you know, it's like they can't even conceive of children like being, you know, anything other than puppets for their propaganda. Or they're just like, or they're like so articulate, like some Dickens novel. Right. Like, father, I must know,
Starting point is 01:08:14 my eyes must gaze upon the cinematic masterpiece that is Melania. No, father. we want to see Melania. No, no, no. No, fuck. Yeah. Anyways, they spent $73 million on or $75 million on it.
Starting point is 01:08:34 And that's before the massive marketing campaign that probably doubled the budget. No, no, no. It was 40 to acquire, then 35 in marketing. 35 in marketing? What was the production budget? I don't know the production, but they bought the rights to it for $40 million. 28 million of it went to Melania directly. I feel like that's low on the marketing side.
Starting point is 01:08:55 I mean, they're self-reporting all that, but... They could be, but even then they're like, man, like, this is blowing out other huge movies. Yeah. Kaman third, uh, behind the new Sam Ramey movie, um, send help. And then the independently produced movie by, uh, the YouTube, the YouTuber Markiplier. Yeah. Those based on the, uh, indie video game. Markiplier's,
Starting point is 01:09:22 fucking indie video game movies still crushed your fucking obscene Amazon-backed oligarch. They had the power of like the richest guy, one of the richest guys in the world and the U.S. government. I mean, and which goes to show you like there's only so much your fucking money can do. Right. You know, like you really thought it's like, well, I don't know if we brute force this marketing campaign. Maybe we can like get at least $8 billion in or something like that. But no.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Yeah. Can't. People just, when people don't fuck with it, they don't fuck with it. Yeah. All right. Those are some of the things that are trending on this Monday, February 2nd. We're back tomorrow with our 2000th episode. Yeah.
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