The Daily Zeitgeist - A Shrekening, Hero “Bonus” 5.18.20

Episode Date: May 18, 2020

In episode 632, Jack, Miles, and Jamie are joined by comedian and Natch Beaut host Jackie Johnson to discuss Joe Biden's recent gaffes, the NBA possibly coming back, Kroger being shady, and then a dis...cussion of Sleepless, Shrek: The Musical, and The Wrong Missy, and more!FOOTNOTES: IN ANOTHER BIDEN GAFFE, FORMER VP SAYS PANDEMIC COST U.S. 85,000 JOBS AND 'MILLIONS' OF LIVES Can the N.B.A. Come Back, and Stay Back? Report: Michael Jordan Agreed to Release 1997-98 Bulls Footage During 2016 Cavaliers Championship Parade Kroger Pays CEO $21 Million After Ending Store Workers' 'Hero Bonus' Orchestrating an Ogre’s Monster Makeover Smash Mouth Booking Agency Profile "Shrek" a family musical with gay-pride element Shrek: The Musical drops 'dehumanising' transphobic slur ‘Shrek The Musical’ coming to L.A. with a lighter tone of green Shrek the Musical Drop the curtain, it’s ogre WATCH: Four Tet - Twenty Three Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:12 production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and say officially off the top fuck the the Koch brothers and fuck Fox News. It's Monday, May 18th, 2020. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I keep a close watch on this heart of mine. I keep my eyes wide open
Starting point is 00:02:37 all the time. I keep the ends out for the tie that binds because you're mine. I jack o'brien as courtesy of hannah saltus and i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray i don't like to eat reese's more into captain crunch cut my mouth on the ceiling don't give a fuck the sugar has a peeling okay thank you to hannah soltis it's been a while aka goddess since wow your inspirations your genius works have graced my timeline uh but thank you hannah for that wonderful
Starting point is 00:03:19 paparazzi inspired aka great to have her back And we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by our cohost, Jamie. I'd like to make DZ believe that Jamie is the queen. It's hard to say she'd rather have an egg with some good cheese. If Sonny the knife could could just vote, oh please. It'd be for Joe B. Thank you so much to at Holly Biv. Really made my morning.
Starting point is 00:03:58 I don't know if I've ever done a Fireflies, a.k.a. I feel like I'm in 11th grade again. What is that? What was that? Who are we? Owl City, bro. Owl City, a.k.a. I feel like I'm in 11th grade again. What is that? What was that? Who are we? What's Fireflies? Owl City, Miles! Miles? Come on, man. What the heck, dude? I'm a fucking 35-year-old Blackanese guy from
Starting point is 00:04:16 the Valley. What the fuck is Owl City? Owl City is for everybody. What is it? Is it a band? I did not know what was happening. I just knew Jamie was nailing it. I think if you heard the song, you would know it. It's on me. It's on me. No, no.
Starting point is 00:04:31 We're not starting that. We're not going back to the national anthem now. You did a great job. You did great. I did bad. I did bad. Well, we are thrilled to be joined. Vanilla Twilight.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Of course they did. I don't even know what that is. Vanilla Twilight, that's basically the genre of music that they're... Right, yeah, if you like Vanilla Twilight. Hey, we're thrilled to be joined in our fourth seat by the hilarious, the talented Jackie Johnson. I wish I had a song, but you know what? You can't top Owl City. And Jamie, don't sell yourself short.
Starting point is 00:05:08 That was an excellent rendition. Thank you. That was beautiful. Miles, we gotta get you in the house. I could not believe your eyes. You're two million fireflies. Wow. Yeah, you're like one of my favorite singers.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Oh, thank you. Okay, next time, when it's my fourth appearance on DZ, I will friggin' stomp the yard. Y'all won't even know what's coming with my cover song, okay? Because I open every Natch View with a cover song, and they are so dear to my heart. But I didn't know if the fourth seat was allowed to do a song.
Starting point is 00:05:40 You don't want to show us off. Oh, I remember. I think last time, when the first time you graced us with your pipes, somebody was singing Britney Spears, and then you hopped in, and then I was like, okay, well, just take the microphone. What the hell? You know what? I always say everyone in L.A. can sing.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Go to karaoke, and you'll go, oh, yeah, everyone can sing. I mean, you know, I always say move home. Or if you're thinking about moving to L.A., don't. We're full. We have enough talent. Everyone can sing here. Everyone's funny. We're moving to LA, don't. We're full. We have enough talent. Everyone can sing here. Everyone's funny. We're all attractive.
Starting point is 00:06:09 It's fun. It's hard. Yeah, it's hard out here. Don't step onto my singing block, you guys, because I've got this covered, okay? I think we all know that. My patch. Jackie, how are you quarantining?
Starting point is 00:06:21 How's it going for you? You know, it's not easy having an open floor plan in one bathroom yeah it's it's a lot i um you know my boyfriend he was actually just on this show a couple weeks ago last week was that last week was it who knows what is time what are days let's stop using words like weeks and days like he was you know back over there right he was here and you know he's always he's he just has a book out he's promoting it i mean literally sometimes he's like on the phone with congressmen and i'm like hey i need to drop a deuce can you mute that mic like it's just there's no there's no space and i'm trying to not embarrass him you
Starting point is 00:07:02 know like eating my peanut butter puffins while he's talking to like somebody running like a voter rights initiative in the other room. Like it's it's been hard, but we're doing our best. Well, it's great to have you back. Thank you. Yeah. The one bathroom can be a absolute battle. I know they're one bathroom, especially like it's hard now in core because it used to be like people have routines getting out the house in the morning so i'm like yep and then that's we had ways to you know sort
Starting point is 00:07:30 of uh diplomatically share the bathroom and now it's like like me pounding on like the door be like hey man come on man i need to get in there man come on i'm telling you and if you're eating all the same food at the same time you know you on the same schedules, it can get a little dicey. It is very stressful. I've never had to poop at the same time as someone so frequently. Yeah. Yes. Where you're just like, oh, whoa, it just hit.
Starting point is 00:07:58 But he beat me by two minutes. And then he's like, it's going to be 10 minutes till you have access to this room. The cycles lock up the cycles link up i'm telling you sometimes i'm like should one of us just kitchen sink it how bad is it right uh i've had i've had uh when i lived in santa monica we had one bathroom and we would frequently have toilet troubles and we would yeah, there was some kitchen sinking going on. There was some bathroom sinking
Starting point is 00:08:27 going on. There was some reliance on the Starbucks up the street going on and sometimes they were like they got tired of seeing us. It's rough. I mean, we don't even have a Starbucks. I mean, we both have therapy and
Starting point is 00:08:43 I'll make Ben go sit in his car for my therapy and vice versa. And one time I was in the middle of my therapy appointment, and he runs in like, I got a shit. I got a shit, man. And I'm like, oh, you know what? We're doing our best. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:56 All right. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners what we're talking about. It is a Monday episode, so that means we're going to be going over some culture that we consumed over the weekend. I watched Sleepless, the 2017 Jamie Foxx movie that I thought was a new Netflix movie and figured out that it was an old movie halfway through. It was, yeah, we'll talk about that.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Miles and J.M., our writer, watched Shrek the Musical. I'm so excited. Jamie and Jackie watched The Wrong Missy, which, is that right? Is that what it's called? With Lauren Lapkus and Dave Spade. I kept calling it The Other Missy, but it's called with lauren lapkus and dave i kept calling it the other missy but it's in fact called the wrong missy and then at one point david spade says the wrong missy and you're like oh right the titular line he reminds he reminds you i kept thinking it's the
Starting point is 00:09:56 other missy but then david spade kept saying the correct name it was helpful yeah that script really is there for you i i get the feeling that at some point he's going to learn that uh maybe she's the right missy uh but i don't know we'll we'll we'll fit we'll talk about it when we get to it um no spoilers i know i'm sorry the nba may be coming back uh joe biden is mia except for like he makes a 15 minuteminute appearance to just fuck up for a little bit. So we might talk about that stuff if we have time. But first, Jackie, we'd like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Starting point is 00:10:40 Apple Martin. Apple Martin. Are we familiar with Apple Martin? Yes. I'm familiar with Apple Martini. Gwyneth and Chris. Yes. I'm telling you, I did not know what this person looked like.
Starting point is 00:10:54 I saw a paparazzi photo. She's 15. And honey, there has never been a human being that has put two people in a blender and mixed together and come out a perfect human being mix of put a blender two people in a blender and mix together oh no human being mix of the two of her parents i mean it is wild she is literally the two of them mixed together oh wow i was like what i mean i remember when she was born but like she's a full-fledged human now yeah yeah it Yeah, that's weird. It's just like Maya Hawk where you're like, wait, you were a baby, but now you're an adult.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Does she have dreams and shit? Is she trying to do something? I don't know. All I know is that her and Dakota Johnson are BFF. And at first, I thought that was weird. But I was like, they're 15 years different. Yeah, that's kind of an old best friend. They're 15 years different. But Dakota's 15 years different from her dad.
Starting point is 00:11:48 So she's dead in the center of the two of them. But I'm just like, and then I started looking up all these other damn kids. Look up Ava Phillippe, Ryan Phillippe, and Reese Witherspoon's daughter. She looks just like Reese Witherspoon. She is them mixed together. Those genes are so strong. That just looks like a picture of Reese Witherspoon Photoshopped next to herself.
Starting point is 00:12:13 It's so crazy. Apple Martin and Dakota Johnson are also the exact same kind of nepotism. It does sort of make sense. They're like two very famous yet different people having a kid. That's a similar nepotism flavor. I bet they discuss their famous
Starting point is 00:12:32 parents all the time. That might be one of their common conversations. They're like, wait, wasn't your grandma in Meet the Parents? That's so funny. I love Blythe Danner. Blythe Danner,er though her genes are strong because gwyneth hell yeah she's got the full-on blithe danner vibes and that has only continued
Starting point is 00:12:52 what that danner genealogy that we need to look into those genetics because that that and the witherspoons because typically you'll see like i think jack your kids are a blend of you and your wife that's very clear then sometimes you see people who just somehow forced another person to just cleave off a copy of themselves. And you're like, oh my God, I don't see any of you in this child. It looks like all the other person. So it's interesting to see. That's actually a direct quote from my dad about my kids.
Starting point is 00:13:20 He said, I don't see any of you in him. I was like, okay. That's a weird thing to say oh really damn it's like the first time you see oh yeah it's so hard to look at a baby and be like i know i see it and people who say they do they're full of shit i'm one of those liars that's like looks just like you oh my god oh my god my The chin. It's in the chin. The chin. It's your chin. Unless you're talking to Reese Witherspoon, that is a lot. You will never get a parent to be like, really?
Starting point is 00:13:52 I don't see it. They'll always be like, I know, right? I do look like them. My niece was born two months ago and she's beautiful. Looks nothing like my cousin at all. But I'm just like, wow, I see it in the nose? Like, just guessing. Everything's a question. She looks like you?
Starting point is 00:14:11 She looks like you? Jackie, what is something you think is underrated? Okay. We're all cooking at home right now, right? Yes. Underrated, adding fresh herbs to your shit okay i'm telling you you can get a microwave pizza or a uh you know a box pizza in the freezer put some damn herbs honey get that basil going pop that basil on there you're like where am i it? Italy? Am I in Tuscany? Get those herbs, sweetie. I know they're
Starting point is 00:14:46 intimidating if you've never bought herbs, but get those herbs going. I'm telling you, get that cilantro going. Get those chives going. If you're feeling freaky, get that dill going. You aren't even going to know what's happening. You're going to be like, where am I right now? Am I at Olive Garden? This is delicious. Can I say that just based on the energy you're bringing right now, I would say you're probably top five people in the universe to be quarantined with. Well, last time we had to bring up the fact that, Jackie, you were ahead of us on our hand-washing game
Starting point is 00:15:17 because last time we were here, you were like, yo, wash your hands for two happy birthdays or whatever. That's true. I am a hand-washing influencer. Yes, 100%. And I want to credit you because I almost, I think I will credit you with my own safety because after that, I actually did consider what you were saying
Starting point is 00:15:37 and became better with my hand-washing. Cut to core. I'm alive. Thank you, Jackie. You should have seen his hands before you got to him, Jackie. It was disgusting. All dead skin. Flies buzzing everywhere.
Starting point is 00:15:49 People thought I was wearing gloves. Yeah. It was just dirt. It was really gross. Just dirt. I would always wash from the wrist up. I've always been a really neurotic hand washer. Even when I take my dog out at night, I come inside and I wash because I'm like, I touched
Starting point is 00:16:04 the doorknob. I've always been like that, and I guess it's saving my life now. In a certain way, yeah. I noticed that you have a bespoke mic cover. It's a different mic cover than your boyfriend had. That's another smart- Well, she has a brand, Jack. She has a brand.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Right. Oh, yeah. And I sanitize everything. You think I let him touch me? No way. You know what I mean? Hazmat suit, intercourse. I mean, nobody's getting near me.
Starting point is 00:16:35 How's Chooch's coat looking right now? Choochie just had a fresh cut. She's looking fresh. She's got the pom-pom ears. The other thing about herbs, though, for everybody, you have plenty of time. They're cheap.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Like, sometimes grocery stores have living basil or living herbs that you can just take home from the grocery. You don't have to go to a nursery. Like a potted plant. Yeah, and then just give that some life, and you got herbs going, baby. I'm telling you, you got yourself a damn herb garden. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Get those herbs out. What is something you think is overrated? Okay, this one I'm excited about. Uh-oh. Lotion. I'm done with lotion. We are only oiling. We're oiling only.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Only oil now. Wait. Wait, unpack it, because I think of all the people in the world, I take your skincare advice the most seriously, so please unpack this okay so i don't know if y'all have been noticing but there is now body oils face oils honey i'm all about those oils i oil up my ass every day there you go so you could rub that and then just do the neck with it yeah exp, expel it from your pores. And then just rub it back.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Rub it back in, honey. Yes, free oil. But no, I don't know why. I just feel like a cream isn't as satisfying. But now that there's body oils, honey, you look like J-Lo. Like, you really do look like J-Lo from the Jenny from the Block video. I'm just like, damn, I'm looking like J-Lo. I'm eating like I'm in Tuscany.
Starting point is 00:18:04 I am living my best damn core life so i recommend buying that body on her worst day i would i would take that right same i think we all would i'm i started using coconut oil because i have to cut my hair so low on my head my scalp gets really dry so i started using i got into the oils through coconut oil yes that would help keep my scalp moisturized. And then I was like, fuck it. I'm always quite ashy living in this dry climate. And I started using coconut oil here and there. But is that good?
Starting point is 00:18:36 Is that fine? Coconut oil is an oil. That's what I'm talking about. You could bring that oil miles head to toe. You could oil up the arms oil the feet oil the legs secondary concern how do i how much time do i need before i put on clothes so it doesn't look like i had a bag of french fries spilled all over my clothes you know that's your own personal preference because that is a mood your clothes are like transparent in. We call that nude minutes.
Starting point is 00:19:09 When Cameron Esposito came on Natch Butte, she was like, I do nude minutes. So I come out of the shower, I do my body oil routine, and then I have my nude minutes, and then I put on my clothes. Ah, and that helps any kind of staining or damage from the oils. Yes. That's all I need to know, because all the time I'm like, I just feel like it's easy to put on my legs or whatever because I'm like, my genes would never know. But there are other times.
Starting point is 00:19:29 My regular moisturizer has been making me break out lately too. I don't even know why. Well, you know what? My myth might help that. Okay. What's the myth? Seamless. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:41 So yeah, I didn't even plan that. So the myth is you don't need sunscreen if you don't go outside. So during quarantine, you don't need to be doing sunscreen. That is wrong, honey. The sun is getting us through the windows, and it's making all our skin look like shit. I mean, I was like, why do I look like shit? I'm not going outside.
Starting point is 00:20:01 I'm not wearing makeup. It's because I wasn't doing sunscreen, and all these damn windows in this sunny condo were fucking up my skin. So none of you are safe. None of you are safe. Okay. Sunscreen every day. Even if you're in quarantine and you're staying in your damn house, you got a sunscreen up because the sun is getting us. What's the, wait, so what do you mean just from not having protection when you say, I can't imagine how your skin would ever look like quote unquote shit. so what do you mean just from not having protection when you say you're i can't imagine how your skin would ever look like quote-unquote shit but what do you mean by that like what were you noticing that you're like something okay i was starting to get discoloration
Starting point is 00:20:34 meaning like dark spots and then ben was like hey you look tan and i'm like it's not tan it's just like darkness like my face was starting to get sort of discoloration and my skin tone was getting uneven. And then I noticed, you know, bless his little Jewish heart. He started getting red neck. You know what I mean? You're pointing to the back of your neck. He started getting sun from just being in the house. Damn.
Starting point is 00:21:02 So we all need to be wearing sunscreen is what i'm saying just because you're not going outside you need sunscreen everybody you hear me and jamie if you're having some issues it might be because the sun the sun is hurting you the sun is still public enemy number one the sun is still public enemy those uv radiation that it giveth and it taketh i was wondering telling you. My skin has been on a wild journey since quarantine started. There have been weeks that I'm like, it's never looked this good. I've never been drinking this much water before.
Starting point is 00:21:39 And then this week was just a plummet for reasons unclear to me. Maybe it's the sun. I'm telling you, if you spend any time near any windows. Me every day. He's out to get us us he's out to get us Helios I'm telling you all right guys let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about stuff fantasy football fans the NFL season is here, and now is the time to get ready to dominate your leagues. The best way to crush your opponents this season is to listen to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.
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Starting point is 00:25:44 Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And just a couple things to cover off on real quick. So Biden continues to be hidden mostly from sight. I've seen various ways that people are covering it. Some people are like, man, he's really bad at this, which we knew heading into the primary. He's like Mr. Gaff Guy.
Starting point is 00:26:28 He's run for president dozens of times and fucks it up every time. So now in 15-minute increments while he's at home and there's no crowd there cheering him on, it's just a bad look. He's swapping the number of deaths with the number of jobs lost. Yeah, he's just gaffful. I mean, the one benefit is he doesn't necessarily have to get out there
Starting point is 00:26:50 because of the pandemic. He can just comparatively not say anything while Trump has Kayleigh McEnany waving binders around wildly, being like, Obama just gave us paper as a plan. You see? Right. I think that's why a lot of people like yeah you know honestly like that's the thing with biden is like sometimes not hearing from him
Starting point is 00:27:10 like often not hearing from him is better than hearing from him his his like already assorted reputation stays intact the less he speaks uh yeah he's like addicted to making himself look like a dumbass it was a it was interesting quote he had where he was like hey if anybody in their heart believes the terror reads allegations then don't vote for me was sort of like yes vote your heart jack which was like hold on and then he pushed his finger into people's chest rape culture is mainly in the heart yeah right yes that's what yeah that's where it lit well and also just like the idea of like that's not don't even use that like well if you're voting for me it's because
Starting point is 00:27:50 you believe that i'm innocent it's like no no that's that's really not the case here there's just a binary i have to choose between at the moment and that's what it is because if i was voting with my heart i that's the reason i wasn't supporting you in the primary because i was voting with my heart then so leave my heart out of it because yeah leave my fuck there my heart's had enough especially watching this damn shrek musical the thing with okay i'm so excited for your taste yeah with biden it's like i also i'm like yeah he should be saying and doing more but like i also have zero faith that what he says or does would be useful or productive so i ultimately i'm like like, just stay in the room, whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:27 And then there's a couple back-to-work things. The NBA may be going back to work. They may be doing, like, there's rumblings that they're coming back in the middle of July to do just the playoffs. But there's, like, the, I don't know, all the best players had a call and they were like yeah let's do it and i i still feel like there's gonna be a lot of players who are like not super
Starting point is 00:28:52 down for that and it could be really messy and wasn't the idea to have them playing some like bubble like enclosed like controlled facilities so it's like they're really in control of who's in and out and stuff. Yeah. The thing I'm hearing is Orlando. And again, this, I never talked to,
Starting point is 00:29:09 my dad works for the NBA and I never talked to him about stuff like this so I'm not hearing this from him. I'm hearing it from a friend of mine who has.
Starting point is 00:29:17 I never talked to my dad. I never talked to my dad. I was like, oh shit. Haven't heard from him since he said my kids don't look like me. So,
Starting point is 00:29:24 but, I, I, Oh, shit. Haven't heard from him since he said, my kids don't look like me. But I have a friend who hangs around with a lot of people in LA who are NBA connected. And he says that he's hearing July 15th, and it's going to be Orlando, and they're going to do the playoffs, basically. Well, that makes sense that Florida would be the place. Right, exactly. Of the most likely states to lift Quar for some shit
Starting point is 00:29:53 is Florida, right? Or just reward the people of New Zealand with NBA playoff basketball. I was going to say, man, why not go back to New Zealand where you can actually have crowds because they've contained it successfully yeah but that'll be like the smallpox circus coming to town where they're like dude a plane full of fucking america no
Starting point is 00:30:13 no no no no well yeah you would have to i mean whatever they do they're gonna have to quarantine them for 15 days and then test them to make sure that everybody is virus-free, and then they'll play. But it's just too, as Jeff Goldblum taught us all in Jurassic Park, nature finds a way. So I just feel like it's going to be too hard to figure it out. That said, I would love to watch it. Man, this is just such shitty timing because I've been watching The Last Dance
Starting point is 00:30:47 and now I'm like the biggest freaking fan of basketball ever. I'm like ready to go now. I'm like, I'm in, honey. I'm in. But there's no games. Super producer Ana Hosnia forwarded a story to us that I had missed that Michael Jordan approved The last dance when LeBron like won the championship in 2016 and like kind of started legitimizing the argument that he might be
Starting point is 00:31:13 the greatest of all time. Cause he like beat the team that won 73 games with like a much worse team. And Jordan was like, nah, fuck the footage. People need to know. Yeah just i mean you know there was a moment probably where someone on espn like it was a stephen a smith he heard someone articulate and i mean now lebron's got to be in the goat conversation and like right for jordan's like and that was all i needed yeah and that was all i
Starting point is 00:31:41 needed every and that was all i needed joke is the funniest thing i've ever heard it's the best kroger is also uh i mean their their employees have been essential employees but they were paying an extra two dollars an hour and that was called the hero bonus which was great and now because their executives need more money, they're going to stop doing that as of the end of last week. I mean, wow. They're giving them $2 in a way to say, hey, we acknowledge the risk you are taking
Starting point is 00:32:19 by continuing to help generate revenue for our business. Although, yes, providing groceries is essential. Let's not get it twisted. The people who work at the grocery store aren't going there because they're like, bro, the checks are so fat. I'd be foolish not to go into work. This is just part of the hardship of being a wage worker in this country because wages are not living wages.
Starting point is 00:32:43 So already Kroger was in some shit because after this, like, you know, it's also Fred Meyer, I think, and Kroger. If you're in LA, it's Ralph's. It's the same people. But basically they're saying, yeah, we don't want to give any more money. Prior to that, they were getting in real deep shit because they were essentially telling workers like, hey, even if you feel ill, like, why don't you try coming on in?
Starting point is 00:33:04 And people like, whoa, whoa, what is excuse? No. And they excuse no and they're like oh no no we were joking we're joking and then eventually had to be shamed into like yeah no seriously then they like essentially had to relent and then they're like fine if any employee that's too pussy to come into work because they're ill you'll get two weeks paid vacation for now um so then all that's been going on. They've already been in a bad light. And then Judd Legum, who was sort of looking into some of these SEC filings from the company, found that the CEO, basically their total compensation for 2019 was $21 million. And a lot of that money came in the form of a bonus in March of this year. Not to say that this is tied directly to COVID, but let's just say as the world was coming apart, he came into a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:33:51 And not necessarily because of how he was treating the workers, but this is the situation. Again, if you want to just do some juxtaposition, the average annual salary or annual income for an essential worker, essential at Kroger is about $27,000. This man makes $21 million. That's a ratio of 789 to one. So you're telling me- It's just like not a living wage. No.
Starting point is 00:34:13 It's just, yeah. What's more is in 2018, that ratio was only 483 to one. So they went from 483 to one to 789 to one as people who are putting their lives on the line to generate that money that they take in their salary are losing their lives. And many people who work at Kroger's have been losing their lives. Not to mention there's many places where this is happening. But there's been an uproar saying like, hey, there's people in there's someone who lost her life in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, in Michigan.
Starting point is 00:34:44 They're raising this concern that we still don't feel safe. Now, the one last thing I just want to say is that Judd Legum, when he was looking at how the bonuses are given out, that bonus, it's tied to the CEO creating as much free cash flow as possible within the company. He's incentivized to create as much free cashflow. And when you're giving people a $2 hero bonus, that is not going to create free cashflow. So we're also seeing like it's set up
Starting point is 00:35:13 to incentivize them being cruel to their customers or to their employees rather. It doubles down on the frustrating nature of a lot of these commercials that are coming out right now that are like praising right now that are like praising essential workers more than ever heroes and like but there's also like big companies that are i mean amazon has been doing it they have like every youtube ad i've been getting is
Starting point is 00:35:35 uh takes place in an amazon workhouse talking about how much they value and they're like our essential workers are blah blah blah and it's like it's the most fucking condescending thing in the world our essential workers are getting fired for raising concerns about the conditions in our warehouses. For attempting to unionize. Like, it's the most condescending thing in the world to make a PSA about how you consider your essential workers to be heroes, but you are firing them for standing up for themselves and have never in the history of your company paid them a living wage and the grocery and on your way to being the first trillionaire on earth
Starting point is 00:36:09 it's just the most it's it's evil it's fucking evil it's evil someone put a thing is like he could he could afford to like solve world hunger twice a year and still keep money in his pocket like when you actually are sitting on that amount of money like something has to give and i don't know at what point that's going to happen. But what the fuck are you going to do with all that money? Don't just sit on till you die and be like, I just want a bunch of libraries erected with my name. No, no, no, no. We have people starving right now and you can do something.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Exactly. And just so everyone's clear, this is this doesn't have to be the case. Like the disparity CEO compensation has grown 940% since 1978. Typical worker compensation has risen 12%. It's just by design.
Starting point is 00:36:56 It's a scam. Again, this is why they use the term wage slaves, wage slavery, because if you had a choice, right, you could say, well, I'm paid enough that I could take any job I want. But because of certain financial situations for people and the way we compensate people, you're locked in a cycle where you can only take a certain job.
Starting point is 00:37:18 It's hard to move up upwardly because you don't have the necessary opportunities there for education or training or whatever. And then you get stuck in this cycle. Meanwhile, let's not forget the people that are protesting are the like older white people who just want their servers to come back and be served. And also the billionaire class. It's like, I need my wage slaves to go back to work because I'm seeing my revenues go and I have a lot of, and I'm used to
Starting point is 00:37:46 getting billions of dollars every year. And this is, that's what we're, yeah, whatever. This is the constant. This is what it's always going to be until we actually begin solving this kind of issue. All right, guys, let's talk about the culture that we consumed before our second break. I can just run through Sleepless real quick. A movie that I went into thinking was a Netflix original. It was a movie that came out
Starting point is 00:38:10 in 2017 directed by the person who directed and created that German show Dark that's on Netflix that I've talked about before that's pretty cool. It's like Donnie Darko but a series and like somewhat smart but anyways
Starting point is 00:38:28 this movie will make you like that show less because it's just kind of a dumb action movie it's like taken if liam neeson didn't have a particular set of skills and was below average height uh they keep like there are multiple times when it's clear that he's shorter than the people around him, which makes me like Jamie Foxx. He's not doing the Tom Cruise thing? Yeah, he's not doing the Tom Cruise. But also, if Liam Neeson would lose his daughter
Starting point is 00:39:00 in a crowded bar, that is something that happens in this is that Jamie Foxx rescues his son from the people holding him hostage. And then they're walking through a crowded bar and he gets separated from his son just because it's crowded. And then his son gets re-kidnapped.
Starting point is 00:39:18 It's amazing. That rocks. Infuriating. Infuriating writing. I would love a reverse Liam Ne neeson speech from jamie fogg's like hi i don't have a particular set of skills i have like a generalized set of skills that most people have but yeah it's interesting because it's like he's a badass cop type movie but like people keep sneaking up on him when his car is stopped at a traffic light or he doesn't notice when he's being
Starting point is 00:39:50 conspicuously tailed by someone. It's all the stuff that you expect from an action hero cop. He just doesn't do. And then it ends with him in a hospital saying, I'm a good cop to this other woman who is a good cop. And she's like, I know, but it's not convincing. End credits.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Jamie Foxx, I do love. He has some very charming moments. There's a part where he stabs a bad guy in the neck with one of those champagne bottles with a sparkler in it. Wait, like at the nightclub? Yeah, at the nightclub, which is pretty dope.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Wait, how does that mechanically work? He breaks the bottom of the thing. Like he broke the bottle off? Yeah, but doesn't bother putting the sparkler out. I thought he just snagged the bottle from the bottle service person and was like, straighten your neck. And I was like, whoa. It's just as the sparkler out. I thought he just snagged a bottle from the bottle service person and was like straight to your neck. And I was like, whoa.
Starting point is 00:40:47 It's just as the sparkler goes out, you see the life draining from the bad guy's face. So that's kind of like a dope. Yeah, it's a good visual. And also Scoot McNary is in it as like a real bad guy. And he gives a good performance. I like Jamie Foxx.
Starting point is 00:41:09 I give it two thumbs up. Also, a very confusing prequel to Sleepless in Seattle. I was... Yeah. I think it's like one of those movies that it takes place in the same universe, but it's just more of like an anthology series. Yeah. believe yeah they don't explain why it's called sleepless like the movie takes place during the course of one night but it doesn't like go deep into the night it's like a couple hours but it's not a particularly late night by vegas standards It's just like, anyways, five stars.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Great movie. Maybe there was a whole storyline about how he's having sleep issues and they just had to cut it for time. Maybe he's having stress sleep problems or hormone problems. He can't get his sleep before my period. They might have just cut that.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Yeah. He does put himself under unnecessary stress. It turns out, so at first you think he's a crooked cop. Then it turns out he's been undercover as a crooked cop, but he had to pretend to be a crooked cop even to his wife and son to the point that their marriage is falling apart. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:42:22 But it's not clear why, like for who was he doing that? Like shitty Serpico? Right. Yeah. Like shitty Serpico or Donnie, uh, Brasco, except he,
Starting point is 00:42:34 like his wife is not going to rat him out. Like, and like, she's like, meanwhile, like moved on to another guy. And he's like, no,
Starting point is 00:42:42 fuck that. You can't move on to another guy because I's like no fuck that you can't move on to another guy because i'm still your husband uh i'm just undercover as somebody who's a shitty toxic husband uh anyways glad i wasn't 14 when this movie came out i'm undercover as a shitty boyfriend that's's right. I'm just doing research. That's what Sleepless taught me. All right. Let's take a break. And then when we come back,
Starting point is 00:43:10 the Shrek musical and the wrong Missy. Fantasy football fans, the NFL season is here and now is the time to get ready to dominate your leagues. The best way to crush your opponents this season is to listen and now is the time to get ready to dominate your leagues. The best way to crush your opponents this season is to listen to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Come hang out with me, Marcus Grant, and my pal Michael F. Florio as we give you all the info you need to absolutely steamroll your fantasy league
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Starting point is 00:44:14 Hey, I'm Bruce Bozzi. On my podcast, Table for Two, we have unforgettable lunch after unforgettable lunch with the best guest you could possibly ask for. People like Matt Bomer. Thank you for that introduction. I'm going to slip you a couple of 20s under the table for that. Emma Roberts. When it came into my email inbox, I was like, okay, I know I'm going to love this so much that I don't even want to read it. Because if I can't be in it, I'm going to be bummed.
Starting point is 00:44:38 And Colin Jost. You know, your wife was the first guest on Table for Two. It's come full circle. As long as they do better than her, I'm happy. Table for Two is a bit different from other interview shows. We sit down at a great restaurant for a meal, maybe a glass of rosé, and the stories start flowing. Our second season is airing right now, so you can catch up on our conversations that are intimate, surprising, and often hilarious. Listen to Table for Two with Bruce Bozzi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds, Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists,
Starting point is 00:45:27 but the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist. I mean, my reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president
Starting point is 00:46:14 was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI
Starting point is 00:46:49 in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and miles you watched the shrek musical this is not just like some fan
Starting point is 00:47:21 video that they took from the crowd. This is the Netflix. It's a whole ass Broadway fucking production. It's impressive, isn't it? Now, mind you, remember what I said last week? I said I hate musicals. I don't like them. I mean, like, fine. Like, a musical is a musical.
Starting point is 00:47:42 But then I saw her face. Now I is a musical. But then I saw her face. Now I'm a believer. Do they have All-Star in this? No. Famously, they do not have All-Star. We'll get to that. My first, I just want to say, up top, actually quite pleasurable experience. It's not like... Wow. In terms of like...
Starting point is 00:48:01 You did it, Shrek the musical. I wasn't moved you know emotionally but i also wasn't hating what i saw because i think i realized what the sweet spot is for me with musicals when they're too like like actual legit mute like chicago or some shit or rent i'm like i don't know like this there's like some real shit going on here shrek i'm like grateful this little shrek ass ogre got kicked out by his parents and has to figure it out on his own ends up in the swamp meet some homies great there's fart jokes there's there's yeah the fart there's like fart solos uh i was like i was like kind of laughing that's
Starting point is 00:48:39 great why is he kicked out by his parents it was i think like a remnant from the original story where the guy was pitching it to dreamworks he had a few different like origin stories that they could kick off shrek with like whether his parents were fighting about kicking him out or whatever but i think it's just sort of meant to say like this is a person who already feels ostracized because that's sort of like thematically the through line because by the end it's completely about self-acceptance and are his parents not shreks? No, they're full-on ogres. No, his parents are very Shreks. Yeah. Now, I will say,
Starting point is 00:49:08 I was disappointed, like most people, with the absence of All-Star, but they do make up for it with I'm a Believer, a rousing number at the very end where they even change the audio so it sounds like you're hearing
Starting point is 00:49:18 like a real show. Like they switch from the production mics to some PA stuff. Enjoyed that. But the Smash Mouth thing, everyone's like, what's going on now? Most people maybe suspect that it was because switched from like the production mics to like some pa stuff enjoyed that uh but the smash mouth thing everyone's like what's going on now most people maybe suspect that it was because like a rights issue but jm did a little research and found that you can get a smash mouth to perform
Starting point is 00:49:35 at your private event for forty thousand dollars oh so they i wonder what it was then that's very weird i've heard i mean because we've heard like the lead singer is kind of a dick. So I wonder if like maybe something's happened in like them wanting way more money than they're like. Because this musical was also. Yeah, it was made during the, it was like during a recession it came out. So this production actually lost a million dollars even doing it. Yeah. Now I want to tell you people who like musicals.
Starting point is 00:50:04 I'm assuming I was really i'm really sleeping on production okay i didn't realize how good it can be now if you have some musicals with amazing set changes please tell me because those are the moments i found myself being like y'all i'm stupid for like just blanket hating on musicals because it is a production and there is a moment where the mask goes into like DVD features and seamlessly turns into Princess Fiona as a teenager on stage with some fucking screens and shit. What? Yes. And I was high being like, no, I rewound that shit to try and figure out what the fuck happened.
Starting point is 00:50:37 That number where she's like singing in the tower. Yes. Yeah. And then she goes around and like the age progression happens with new actresses. And the person who plays Farquaad, I'm pretty sure he did that whole show on his knees. Legend. Legend. Yes, he did.
Starting point is 00:50:51 On his knees to be the height of Lord Farquaad. They have a very tall man get on his knees instead of finding a short man. But they give like a nice, fun prosthetic costume that like goes from his hip to like his knee that looks like the whole leg. It's so goofy. And his cape like obscures the fact that he's actually on his knees. So this dude was doing full choreography. He's going full out on his knees.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Isn't that problematic to have a small person played by somebody on their knees? Well, no, I think they're just meaning to say like Farquaad, his character was just short in stature rather than saying like, he may have been like, have any sort of like medically was short just to show.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Cause you know, his character is this short dude with a big head who's just super cocky and insecure. He was nominated for a Tony for that too. Damn, son. I'm not mad. Christopher Sieber. I mean, yeah, he did a very good job. I can see people being like,
Starting point is 00:51:41 oh, that's not, I don't know. I'm not the authority on that. But I thought Christopher Siebert was fresh. If it is tasteless, please tell me, because I didn't think it was meant to look like, to say, oh, we're making fun of somebody, rather than like, Farquaad is meant to be smaller than everyone else.
Starting point is 00:51:54 This person, this is how we're achieving that, through the magic of Broadway. The context I'm thinking of is the comic character, Dwarf. Oh, Dwarf? Dwarf on golf? That's Dwarf, I believe. Yeah. D-O-R-F, so it dwarf i believe yeah d-o-r-f so it wasn't problematic d-o-r-f yeah probably cool but like so fiona right she's a human and then at night she turns to ogre how does she get in and out of that makeup so fucking quick there's really good
Starting point is 00:52:19 behind the scenes uh video like all the behind the scenes videos for i don't remember exactly how it's done but there is like a process video shown it's it's and it's fucking sutton foster she rocks she's so good yeah i'll just say i light a candle with her face on it every night i mean she is oh hallowed be thy name sutton foster she can do no wrong yeah where. Where is she from? Like, I'm ignorant to the majesty of Sutton Foster. Well, so she was Millie in Thoroughly Modern Millie. I believe the original Millie. So she originated the role. And then she was in Anything Goes and won a Tony for that revival.
Starting point is 00:52:57 And then on television, she is on a show called Younger, which is on TV Land. That show rules. Which is in its, like its seventh season or something. But she's just a Broadway queen, and she's just iconic. Got it. That makes sense. And I saw her in Into the Woods at the Hollywood Bowl last summer,
Starting point is 00:53:12 RIP Hollywood Bowl. But she's just an incredible Broadway performer. She's just really, really good. Yeah. I realized how ignorant I was, too, because some person would just come on stage for the first time, and they're like, yes, yes. I'm like, who the fuck is that?
Starting point is 00:53:25 Brian Darcy James and Sutton Foster are like two Broadway legends. And it's so wild to me that they agreed to be Shreks. They must have made so much money doing this show because I can't imagine that's an easy sell. To be like, okay, queen of Broadway, we're going to put you in 500 pounds of makeup every night for a year.
Starting point is 00:53:42 But she kills it. It's interesting. Jan put together some reviews that people were talking about early on. And there's like, you know, some people were saying like that it had this like clear gay pride subtext. I'm like, fam, you're at a musical. You know what I mean? Like you're you're in the community already. Like don't like this.
Starting point is 00:54:00 People are singing and dancing and getting free if that bothers you because they're trying to have them. I think in the context, because I said at the end, it's like, let your freak flag fly. Well, I'm sorry. Pinocchio's got a wooden nose, bro. He's trying to embrace that. Yeah. Although there was like a weird transphobic joke
Starting point is 00:54:18 in the opening number where the big bad wolf in the granny costumes, like they tore my granny dress. Now I'm a tranny mess. I was like, oh. Which I'm happy to report has been removed from all subsequent productions. Look, and 2008, whew, different times. I've seen, yeah, that's an upsetting joke to have made. And that was, like, low-key in the movie as well, if I'm remembering correctly.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Probably. There was, like, a transphobic joke in the original Shrek movie, but then audiences didn't like it. And in all of the regional, because I've seen this show live, I think, seven times. Wow. What? I've never seen this line performed live.
Starting point is 00:54:57 So they got rid of it. Wow. And again, I think what may have been pleasurable for me, even though I'm not really convinced by musicals or whatever, but I think what was nice about this was like there was there were technical things that i really appreciated i like the humor in like the lightheartedness and it's like it's not it's not gonna bend your mind too much as you watch it and also i think the feeling of like hearing an audience and stuff and seeing a stage performance felt a little bit more additive than watching a straight up film on TV.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Was that a concern you had going in? Was that it was going to bend your mind too much? Because of Trek? It's just weird. I check out of musicals and people are like, oh my god! The police officer shot my son! Why? Why did my
Starting point is 00:55:43 son get slaughtered in the street?'m like no bro i can't pivot like that i can't pivot to song so when you keep it light and light and funky for me easier for me to invest yeah what was your favorite song and because i made my list really okay i made my list of my top 10 favorite songs. I like ranked them all. Oh, okay. I'm not a fan like you, so I can't call them out. I love the fart sequence because it was fun for young and old alike.
Starting point is 00:56:13 It's true. And then when they both are doing their ogre song, when he doesn't realize Fiona's an ogre and they're both just kind of like lamenting their ogreness. I like that. Who I'd be? The actual closer? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, yes. The actual closer. Thank you'd be, the actual closer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yes, the actual closer. Thank you, Jamie, for being able to articulate all this.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Jamie, you're like a Shrek musical stan. Who knew? Yeah, I used to, I wrote about it quite a bit back in the day when I was working at the Globe like five years ago. I saw a production of it like five different times and it was genuinely very good. You wrote about the fact that you had seen Shrek the Musical
Starting point is 00:56:45 five times for the Boston Globe? It was for their web. Shockingly, it was web only, but yes, I did. You are a legend. It's good. My favorite one is Build a Wall, the one that kind of sounds like a Bon Jovi song, but it's shrek singing about
Starting point is 00:57:05 how he's never gonna leave his swamp again i love that shit i mean my favorite thing is when i just try to pull up your article jamie and i go jamie loft is shrek and the results are so yeah why this comedian is selling shrek nudes uh shrek the musical is an assault on privilege. Is that you? Yeah, it's me. I just love what comes up when I search this. I'm bookmarking that for later. I gotta read that. I love it. The Shrek humor wave is fully over,
Starting point is 00:57:38 but it was fun and I was there. You'll be able to tell your kids and great kids. Yeah. All right, guys. Let's talk about The Wrong Missy. Jamie, Jackie, you guys both watched it. It has been, at various points, the number one movie in American Netflix. The Adam Sandler Netflix deal is truly unkillable like it's like always always always number one well i jackie i want you to go first because you have like behind the scenes knowledge of this film that i'm not privy to yeah sort of i mean basically last year was a really wild year for me.
Starting point is 00:58:29 At the beginning of the year, I was married, and my whole marriage fell apart. And so I was like, I'm getting a divorce. I was really sad. And this is while Lauren Lapkus was shooting this movie in Hawaii. And she was like, why don't you come visit me? I have this nice hotel room. You've seen the movie. That movie very well could have been shot in Santa Monica,
Starting point is 00:58:48 but because it's Netflix and Adam Sandler, they were like, let's go to the Four Seasons, honey. So I went. So I wasn't on set, but I was there visiting while Lauren was shooting. So I did hang out with the cast, and I went to Nobu with David Spade. I love that sentence. Nobu with Spade. We had a lovely dinner a few nights in a row.
Starting point is 00:59:15 I had dinner with him a few nights in a row. And me and Deuce Bigelow were at Nobu. We were talking climate change over edamame. I had some really fun experiences and basically i just saw like you know if y'all have followed lauren labkus's career as a comedian like she's always been like low-key killing it like guest starring and doing cartoons and whatever but it was just really great as a friend to see my friend be number two on the call sheet and like kill it and just be the like the titular star of this big movie and she worked her butt off as you can see if you've seen the movie like stunt wise they put
Starting point is 00:59:52 her in every body of water they threw her off a cliff they threw off a cliff she had to dive into you know sharks and sand and dirt and just so many scenes of her emerging from bodies of water with her makeup smeared. Like she really worked her butt off over this movie. And it was just really awesome to see like a woman and also just a very deserving, a talented person kill it and just come in guns blazing in terms of her performance and just how hard she worked.
Starting point is 01:00:24 I think all of that really showed in the movie. So that was awesome. But yeah, I was there, Henny. Yes, I got to be there, sort of. I wasn't on set, but I was there the day they shot the scene where she's on the boat and she's covered in chum and has to throw up. And they really covered her. They covered her in real fish guts. That was not a prop. It was actual chum. Oh, throw up and they really covered her they covered her in real fish guts
Starting point is 01:00:45 that was not a prop it was actual chum oh I was curious about that and she had to run up and down screaming on a deck literally like 500 times Lauren Lapkus is the reason to watch this movie like she is firing on all cylinders
Starting point is 01:01:01 it's cool to see her in a starring role like yeah she like everything I loved about this movie is firing on all cylinders. It's cool to see her in a starring role. Like, yeah, she, like, everything I loved about this movie was things that she was doing. And it was- I saw Lauren Lapkus at her Fresh Faces characters workshop at Just for Laughs, like, 12 years ago.
Starting point is 01:01:19 And she's just been crushing it ever since. She's so, so funny. She deserves it. I'm so, so funny. She deserves it. I'm so glad that she finally has a movie. Yeah, I want her to have more movies written by different people, you know? Oh, interesting. I want the writing.
Starting point is 01:01:38 It sounds like, does she do a lot of physical humor where a lot of the comedic load is put on her to be like, you look stupid. You do this. You have to provide the physical help. And then the man will be static.
Starting point is 01:01:50 And then David's face is standing there. But she does it so well. I think she's doing everything that she's really good at. She's a great character actor. She's great at everything she she sets up they set up for her she knocks out of the park it's just like the writing of the movie isn't done with the kind of like self-awareness that her comedy is and so like there's moments where you're i'm like i so you can try all you want but you're not going to get me to think that lauren lapkus is dumb
Starting point is 01:02:22 like so i'm i'm sold on this part but what is the story because i just know what he just someone is invited the wrong person well my gosh she's the wrong missy there well i'm even having trouble like even putting this into a formula film in so we start from a very believable place spade is hooking up with molly sims the si sports illustrator model it's funny's funny. All the love interests in the movie are like 5'10", blonde,
Starting point is 01:02:48 beautiful women. Yes. I do appreciate the short king visibility in this movie where it would be very easy for David Spade to pull a Tom Cruise
Starting point is 01:02:59 and not cast a tall woman opposite him, but he does so confidently and I appreciate that i agree and they also were consistent across the board like i said like uh sarah shock is five nine lauren is five nine they were like let's go for it okay he has a type right and it's not really like drawn attention to either it just kind of is which is kind of i've true like height disparity i don't know i'm 5 11 and like we". And like, we need it.
Starting point is 01:03:25 We need it. Same. Just help me understand. So he thinks he's inviting Molly Sims somewhere? Yeah. Just mechanically. So I actually, Jamie, I don't know if you agree. I think they set that up well, like believably,
Starting point is 01:03:37 that this could have happened. Yeah. The texting part is, like the actual setup for the movie does, I wasn't expecting it to make sense but it does make sense which i have like 30 johns in my phone and i've like texted the wrong john multiple times yeah like it's two women named melissa missy yeah he he goes on a first date like a blind date with the lauren character and her name is melissa but she goes by missy the date was a mess and then he meets another woman named melissa at the airport they have a little exchange and then she sends him the
Starting point is 01:04:09 contact and i guess he saves the contact and then he just sends her a text thinking it's the woman he just met at the airport but it turns out to be the girl he went on the bad one date with and they have an exchange also yes and melissa so they have an exchange and it gets pretty rapidly like, wow, this girl's pretty hot and heavy, you know? And so he invites her on this retreat, kind of the Nick Swartzen character encourages him to do so, which I thought that character was really funny.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Yeah, I thought he was really good. Real Rob is in it. The guy from Lost is in it. Who else is in it? Which one? Hurley. Hurley. Hurley. Yeah, Hurley has a moment.
Starting point is 01:04:48 You need a Lost cast member in any Hawaii movie. Roman Reigns is in it. Adam Sandler's wife, Jackie Sandler, who's a babe and a half. Oh my God, she is hot to trot. I had never seen her work work but she's in it she's really hot oh she plays the barracuda
Starting point is 01:05:09 yeah isn't that interesting I was like damn who's that hot lady I've never seen before so she has Adam Sandler in it or he just produces it no he's with the Furbies he's with the yeah he was with his Furbies when this happened but he you know he loves to invite his friends to his party.
Starting point is 01:05:29 So there's a lot of Adam Sandler movie character staples, like Rob Schneider, like I said, is in it. He likes to keep it in the fam. He keeps it close. I love that they are, because his movies are generally, the movies he's making for Netflix are not ones that I would stop everything to watch, but the fact that they're using that type of movie to spotlight a huge woman comedic talent
Starting point is 01:05:55 who hasn't gotten a spotlight to this point is cool. I'm psyched about that. Is Peter Dante in it? No. He's in every Adam Sandler film. He's always like, he was the quarterback. Vanilla Ice is in it? No. In every Adam Sandler film, he's always like, he was the quarterback. Vanilla Ice is in it. In many ways, this movie takes place
Starting point is 01:06:11 20 years ago. Vanilla Ice is in it at the end. Peter Dante isn't in it, and he should have been. I want Adam Sandler to meet some other writers, perhaps some female writers, because there's just like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:06:28 this movie doesn't super understand consent. The way this movie falls on consent at multiple points, you're like, who wrote this? And then you look it up, you're like, oh, I see, I see, I see. But it's never the fault of the performers. There's just certain story stuff that you're just like, that could have used asking someone. But it's never the fault of the performers. There's just certain story stuff that you're just like, that could have used asking someone. But it's a fun movie.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Well, we exalt the queen, Lauren Lapkus, on this show. That'll definitely be worth checking out because everything I watch her in, I'm loving. Because I think the last thing I saw was maybe the Between Two Ferns thing that she was in. She was so good in that. And then if you haven't seen her thing that she was in. She was so good in that. Yeah. And then if you haven't seen
Starting point is 01:07:05 her thing on characters on Netflix. It's great. Boy, if you want to be a, if you've not, I mean, I think if you're listening to podcasts, it's almost hard to not know who Lauren Lapkus is.
Starting point is 01:07:16 But if you need proof, check that out on Netflix. I wish that show had continued because that like first season was all hitters. Like each episode is so good. Paul Downs is a comedic genius. Kate Berlant.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Kate Berlant. The Dr. Brown episode of the characters is also super underrated. Like it's all it's so stupid to me that they canceled that show. That flew under the radar so hardcore. Wait, Doc Brown has an episode of characters?
Starting point is 01:07:45 No, no, it's Dr. Brown. He runs the Lyric Hyperion. So in some ways, he helps pay our rent. I have to personally, just because while I was watching this movie, I went to David Spade's Wikipedia page, and I just have to recommend to everyone the personal life section of David Spade's Wikipedia page. It is a fucking ride.
Starting point is 01:08:07 It's a roller coaster. His assistant tried to kill him, right? His assistant tried to kill him in 2000. Didn't realize that. That's a wild paragraph. He's told that story on Howard Stern a few times. It's wild. So then immediately after the story
Starting point is 01:08:21 about how his assistant tried to kill him, there's just a sentence that says, In December 2005, Spade donated $100,000 to the police department of Phoenix, which provided firearms for the officers. So he also just bought guns for cops once. You're just like, this is what a wild ride. Truly, what a time to be alive. Hey, militarize those local police departments.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Spade's on. Jackie, it has been a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you and follow you? So because my name is Jackie Johnson, which I share with a lot of people, some are which unfortunate. I don't know if you've been seeing Jackie Johnson in the news lately because my Google alerts go crazy every day and it's not me. No, what happened?
Starting point is 01:09:06 Who's she? The defense attorney that let the two men who shot Ahmaud Arbery off, her name is Jackie Johnson. Oh, no. Oh, shit. So I get a lot of Google alerts. And I just want to say I have no affiliation with that woman. We just share a name.
Starting point is 01:09:27 But anyway, that's just a... Yes, suffice to say my social medias are all different. So buckle up. But my Instagram is at Jackie Michelle Johnson. And my Twitter is at Jackie underscore Michelle. And that's with one L, sweetie. And then my podcast, Natch Butte, is a beauty podcast.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Jamie has been on. We did a really fun episode where we Bechdel tested, or we talked about movie montages, makeovers in movies. Some are problematic, some are not, and it was really fun. Natch Butte comes out every Thursday.
Starting point is 01:09:59 It's like a beauty comedy podcast, and that's it. All right, and is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying yes i have a tweet from jen statsky who is queen um and her tweet is the meals i cook at home where i'm like huh pretty good if i were served that exact meal in a restaurant i'd throw a brick through the window. Jamie, where can people find you?
Starting point is 01:10:28 What's a tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me on Twitter at Jamie Loftus Help, Instagram at Jamie Christ Superstar. I don't know what to recommend. Well, this episode is going to come out the day after Caitlin Durante's birthday. So I would just generally recommend following my live partner, Caitlin Durante, at Caitlin Durante. It's a good follow. But let's just find a tweet of hers to go along with it.
Starting point is 01:10:59 Okay, here's a tweet of Caitlin Durante's that you can like and fave. Please comment with a picture of your cat. That's Twitter at Caitlin Durante. That you can like and fave. Please comment with a picture of your cat. That's Twitter at Caitlin Durante. That's a real tweet she did. Miles, where can people find you and what's a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me, follow me, Twitter, Instagram, PlayStation Network, Miles of Grey,
Starting point is 01:11:17 and also on 420 Day Fiance. Talking about 90 Day Fiance, the other podcast. Some tweets that I like. One is from at mom with ANS. It says, why is it safe for my kid to be in school, but too scary for Paul Manafort to be in prison? Very interesting question. And then another one is from at HXC underscore clam.
Starting point is 01:11:40 Display name, I am Korean. It's a picture, so I i'm gonna show everybody on the zoom what the picture looks like uh but basically the tweet says i miss doing this for two and a half uninterrupted hours at parties and just this dude with mouth closed looking bored not speaking to anybody so i think a lot of people are now even like looking back at the times they used to go out and being even like sort of clear about it. Like, yeah, I went out, but I didn't really go out. I just physically went out.
Starting point is 01:12:12 A lot of introverts realizing who they are right now. Social anxiety makes you feel alive, you know? I don't know. Any kind of anxiety. Yeah. Brooks Otterlake tweeted, Bob Odenkirk has been 45 since his 20s and he will continue to be 45 well into his 70s. That's why we all love him.
Starting point is 01:12:31 True. Accurate, accurate. Paul Rust tweeted, all ska and no work makes Jack a rude boy. And Uzma tweeted, personally, I think Romeo and Juliet could have handled their situation better. Fair.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Michael Schaub tweeted, remember precedented times? Those ruled. I don't even remember. I know. Presented? Precedented. I don't even know what that means. Precedented?
Starting point is 01:13:02 Precedented. Oh, I don't even know what that means. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song
Starting point is 01:13:28 we ride out on Miles what is it going to be today what is it going to be I mean tomorrow inevitably will be the last dance review Michael's name was evoked during this episode already by Jackie the last yeah we had the penultimate dance
Starting point is 01:13:44 and now we're here for the actual last dance. So I think, why not do this track called 23 by Fortet? It's from his, I think, first album, but it's just like a track I was like, grew up loving. I don't know. 19 years old,
Starting point is 01:13:59 and that makes me feel old, but this track's called 23 from the album Pause. It's got some cool breaks in there. It's got some cool breaks in there. It's got some nice little guitar picking. Just some nice ambient stuff to play. Is it dedicated to Michael Jordan? I don't know. Inspired by?
Starting point is 01:14:17 You never know. I mean, the song has no lyrics. So, I mean, in your mind, if you wanted to listen to it and imagine that uh kieran also known as fortet believed was envisioning michael then why not put it on a michael that's what i'm gonna do yeah that's what i'm gonna do fantastic vision mike anyone tyson jordan jack jackson uh jackson action uh all right well the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radioRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
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