The Daily Zeitgeist - A Stormy is Brewing, OJ: If I Probably Did It 3.12.18

Episode Date: March 12, 2018

In episode 102, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Gibran Saleem to discuss the On The Run Tour 2, Stormy Daniels, Betsy DeVos & her charter schools plus her plan to make school's safer, Trump jazz, March Madness, OJ's psuedo-confession, & more! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to iHeartTrue Crime Plus only on Apple Podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 22, episode one of Dare Daily Zeitgeist. Yeah. For March 12th, 2018, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a.

Working too hard can give you a heart attack. You ought to know. That is courtesy of Billy Joel, but also Andy Scullin at ScullinAndy on Twitter. And, you know, courtesy of Billy Joel. And I am joined, as always,

by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Gray! Gray! Don't want to be your daddy. Just want you in my caddy. That is an AKA. Also courtesy of Billy Joel. Also courtesy of Billy Joel and Andre3stacks and OutKast.

But that was from many people on Twitter, so I don't want to give it to one person. But that one reached a tipping point. So, yes, I triggered the AKA. Oh, also, it's March 12th. Shout out to the homies Chris and Mike, whose birthday it is. Y'all have the exact same birthday, and you met because of me. I hope you guys have a really great time. Wow.

And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by Jabron Saleem. How are you, man? Hey, I'm good. What's your AKA? Jabron James. jabron salim how are you man hey i'm good i was your aka uh jabron james jabron salim aka in uh in high school i had a aol instant message screen name of the notorious g i b which i flipped b.i.g rest in peace march 9th a couple days ago i know that's right um yeah rest in power yeah yeah so i i don't have a song were you a big big hip hop fan? Huge hip hop fan. Okay.

So you're like, nah. I still am. I like rise against. No. Yeah. Huge hip hop head. Okay. Nice.

Although I'm wearing a cardigan. I don't look like a hip hop head. What does a hip hop head look like? I mean, everybody. Jordans. Jordans. I feel like Jordans. I've never owned.

I'm wearing some, I don't know. Well, those look like prescription orthopedic shoes. Yes. Exactly. Yes. Prescription orthopedics. Oh, no, you got some... Not like a wingtip, but... I don't know what they're called. They're really old.

I just keep repairing them. Oh, really? Yeah, I didn't even know you could do that, but you can. Like having them resold and stuff? I live in New York. There's this guy on the street who has a... You got a shoe guy? I got a shoe guy. Nice. And he'll just fix them up when they break.

That's baller. It's not Daniel Day-Lewis, is it? No, it's not. Although, you know... He works free time these days. Yeah, well, he works as a cobbler in between movies.

That's actually his next role, so he could be, you know, preparing. There's a place out here where you can get your sneakers... It's the sequel to The Cobbler by Adam Sandler.

Oh, God. Have you seen that? No. I have. How was it? It was terrible. I only watch terrible films on Netflix, so... can get your sneakers equal to the cobbler by adam's oh god have you seen that no i have i've how was it it's terrible yeah i only watch terrible films on netflix so uh wait you said there's somebody who resolves sneakers out here yeah how he does also uh not resolves them but like fixes them up makes them look new yeah i guess cleans them oh does it you mean like jason mark uh i don't know who jason is. LA is very sneakerhead oriented. New York too, but LA, yeah, definitely.

But we don't walk as much, so you can have your sneakers looking flat. Walking through New York constantly will do some damage to your shoe. Yeah, and your soul. Just wear those. Your soul and your soul. That's right, which are one and the same for a lot of people. Jabram, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are as a human being? Oh, man, the revealing of who I am as a human being oh man the revealing of who who i am as a human being i wasn't uh thinking so we'll be judging you either way uh my i mean i've i've searched a lot of things recently but one is um my hair

is growing out uh i guess i'm begrudgingly uh revealing this shampooing your hair. I grow up shampooing my hair every day. My hair is getting longer. It's really thick. It gets puffy. It's a little poof right now. It gets a lot poofier. Anyways, someone told me recently you don't need to shampoo your hair every day. That you have natural oils.

If you shampoo your hair every day, it strips away the natural oils. See, I don't every day it strips away the natural oils so uh see i don't have that problem with my shaved bald head so i googled how often you should shampoo your hair yeah so like hair experts are very like or they're very aggressive about not wanting you to wash it very much yeah there's like there it seemed like there's groups of people that are like no poo people. They called them no poo, which is just people who use conditioner and not shampoo. Huh. And that seemed like there's people who are like very adamant about this no poo lifestyle.

Yeah. I don't know how interesting this is. This is fascinating. Okay. Do you remember there's a song in the 90s that was like, like the lyrics were like kind of spoken word and it was like about high school things and like the guy was like, girls, you wash your hair twice in one week. Again, twice. Do you remember this music video?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like a graduation speech or something, right? No, not the Baz Luhrmann one where it's like square sunscreen. It was another one. That was the weird advice for him to use in that song. It's not like – was it maybe like – I don't know. That was the weird advice for him to use in that song. It's not like, was it maybe like, I'm popular. My mom thinks I'm a kid.

I don't know. There's one where there's like a weird break where there's a guy in the lyrics. He's telling women to only wash their hair twice in one week. I remember as a kid, I was like, that's fucking gross. And then I realized I don't have hair and I don't know anything about that. And who learns hygienic advice from a song? I think every kid learned everything from a music video at one point in the 90s. This is true.

I learned that in high school that I wasn't supposed to wash my hair every time. And I let it go too far and my hair ended up real greasy and my face ended up real greasy, which it does anyways as a high school student. So I'm just saying it can be taken too far. How far did you take it? Like, I ain't never washed my hair. I think I washed it like maybe once a week or something. So no showers. I was playing sports and I was showering, but I just was – You're like, not the coif though.

Right. Just do whatever works for your hair. Like, you should try it out. But if I did that, I feel like I would look real greasy. I was also told at the end of a shower you switch to cold water because it closes the pores in your hair follicles. Really? Yeah. Now that is the first time.

This is what this girl with curly hair was giving me advice about. Women with curly hair have read novels worth of literature on like what to do with the hair yeah they definitely know more than me so i didn't know anything i was like oh i've been doing it wrong for my entire life uh what is something you think is underrated social skills are underrated yeah there are so many okay we're all inherently sort of awkward but there's just people like why do we not have social skills training in classrooms? Well, one, teachers are not always well equipped socially themselves. But I feel like if we taught general social skills, also cultural sensitivity within classrooms at a younger age, we would not have the same sort of racial issues going on today or just like – just – do they teach – I mean –

Can you give an example of like one one specific one that you wish people knew well i'll give you an example of something that happened recently uh i'm in la i'm a stand-up comedian but i'm here for uh acting stuff uh which is very unique to la and we all are man we all and this lady in my in my class uh white lady older lady very sweet um we did icebreaker stuff and the other person introduced you and so this this older lady wasn't really in my thing but someone else said was telling what they learned about me which is um ethnically i'm from Pakistan. Pakistan is the translation. But I was born in North Carolina, grew up in Virginia, and moved to New York.

Anyways, my introduction was, oh, this is Gibran. He's from Pakistan. And that was kind of it. No, no, that's fine. I didn't care about that because I just unloaded a lot of geographical information. That's fine. But as soon as she said that, this lady in the class said, oh, you sound just like Kumail Nanjiani. Not as a life story, but just sonically, audibly.

I don't think so. Kumail Nanjiani was born in Pakistan, and he has a legit accent. Yeah, yeah, right. This lady heard me speak for three sentences and immediately made the jump to oh brown actor not not just that you look right camera anything but it went into sound right right she just imagined different level she imagined up an accent yeah yeah and then and then at the and i immediately said uh which is we're in a group setting in the class i immediately said uh i highly disagree.

There you go. I didn't just say I disagree. It was all instinct. I added the word highly as an adjective that I didn't need. And then I was the only minority in the class. Right. But as a minority, I immediately looked at the class for another minority to just be like, that's kind of weird, right? But there was no one else.

So I'm just looking around i'm like all right i guess it's just me on this then they're like why is he being so mean to that she's an old sweet lady and she had good intentions right and at the end of the class she you know tried to apologize to me uh which is i it's by showing you a clip of camille he's like you're gonna tell me you don't sound like him? Worse than that. Oh, what? Well, she didn't. Okay, so it was later revealed in class that her last job was as a dialect coach.

Oh, my. So she professionally, I mean, it wasn't revealed as to why she's not a dialect coach, although I have assumptions now. She probably was not good at it or lacked understanding of dialect, which would be fundamental to being a dialect coach anyways that wasn't but first off she's a nice lady i think i i don't want to minimize her intentions and her sense of worth as a human being um but anyways uh anyways later at the end of clash uh she came up to me she said hey i i don't want you to think

i was like stereotyping you or anything like that. I just thought you sounded like him at first. And I'm not just saying that because I thought you guys looked alike. I don't think I look alike. Right. But she's like – and it's not like I'm coming from a bad place. I just like him a lot and I love Master of None. No, she didn't.

What? I swear to God. She meant well, though. I don't want to be talking down. Wait, does she think that that is a Kamala show? So then I just said, I was like, yeah, it's totally cool. I wasn't trying to be angry. I was just like, hey, listen, yeah, I totally get it. By the way, that's Aziz.

By the way, that's Aziz. Yeah, I totally get it. By the way, that's Aziz. By the way, that's Aziz. At that point, I think I accepted her aura and apologetic attitude, and I didn't want to argue or just keep – so I was just like, yeah. I was like, but by the way, that's – she's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Different countries, too. I know that. I just like that one, too.

And I'm like, all right, well, this isn't going anywhere. That is the most L.A. woman ever, though, being like, I'm actually a dialect coach. And I was like, that just makes it worse. You now just look like also a bad dialect coach. I mean, she'd have a better, like, thread to even say you sound like Aziz because at least he's from, like, South Carolina. Yeah. You can connect those dots. You're from North Carolina, right?

But even then, he's Indian. It's like, you're from the North Carolina region. That's it. Right. Then it ends. Right. But but I guess this goes with like social skills and cultural sensitivities. The amount this happens a lot.

And I'm going to group of people together. experience white ladies have so much confidence uh with with with not having any hesitation to make a cultural remark right and i applaud that confidence i wish i had that confidence but there should be certain filters that says wait maybe he doesn't sound like – or maybe I should keep that thought to myself, marinate on it, and then later come out with a response if I still conclude that it's accurate. But the amount of confidence that I've experienced with white ladies doing this is just paramount. And I wish I had that confidence, but there should be some sort of cultural filter at first before you say it. Any age range or just white ladies, just white females? More – this lady was probably 40 and above. Yeah.

Also white men too. But now I feel like I'm just isolating groups and I don't want to be like stigmatizing groups of people as well. These are observations. But these are – yeah, my social social observations we're just saying white men tend to do this too uh in in other weird ways um they'll just start it's more like the bro common ground kind of thing yeah and they're trying to relate and they're trying to um it tends to be i think as they hold within different groups uh white people in general lack a certain amount of racial experience. Yes.

So they don't know how to have that conversation and what's appropriate and what isn't. So I think it's just a lack of social experience in these categories. Right. So they're less refined in having that as a conversation or knowing when to make it a conversation and when not to. And that it's not coming from a bad place. But I feel like if we instilled more cultural sensitivity training or just social skills in general, the social skill aspect of just saying sometimes you don't say things that are thoughts that you have and there's sometimes that you do. But you don't need to express every thought via words coming out of your mouth right uh i feel like people should learn that and they're not just going to learn that they need to be taught because they're not always going to go

through the same experiences right that will teach you organically so when it's not coming when you can't learn it organically uh it would be beneficial to have someone else teach that to you well you're lucky because you know betsy dev, who's the head of the Department of Education, she probably has something like that cooked up in her brain. We'll get to later. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, and also, as we saw last week, was it Jordan Peterson, the Tucker Carlson guest, who was like, if you find your children being taught any sort of cultural sensitivity, pull them out of that school.

And Tucker Carlson was like, brother, and gave him a standing ovation. Because that was his theory as why the masculinity in America is dying because we're teaching people to be too empathetic. He's like, if your kid comes home talking about equity or systemic racism, pull your kid out of that school immediately. Yeah, that's the opposite of what I'm saying. We should have that. Well, that's what we're up against. Yeah, interesting. But yeah, that is an interesting point, just the idea of giving kids –

I feel like we didn't have that many guest speakers in the public schools that I went to in like middle school in like Ohio and Kentucky. We just had – nobody was like, here's what the world looks like from my point of view. You know? I mean I guess we have old novels to do that. But even then. Even that's not that – Well, yeah. The closest thing I think we got to like a school speaker was like the dudes who did like tricks on rollerblades and BMX bikes because they're like,

alright kids, don't do drugs. And we're like, alright. That's it. Alright, what's something you think is overrated? I guess shampooing your hair. Now I just sound like a smelly, hairy, oily guy.

Your hair looks great, by the way. We should say that. Thank you. It smells great. He allowed me to smell his hair. It was very intimate earlier on. It was very weird. And I told him, this is how I shake hands. I'm just saying, shampoo hair is just coming to mind because that was recently something I was looking at. Because I was shampooing

every day, twice a day, and then I was told that you don't need to do that. Yeah, that you don't need a shampoo every day, twice a day. And then I was told that you don't need to do that. So that's actually overrated. Yeah. Yeah. That you don't need a shampoo every day, but you can condition and still eliminate just bacteria or whatever. Boom. Totally. All right. We are trying to take a sample of what people are thinking and talking about right now at

the moment. And the way we like to open up is by asking our guests, what is a myth? What is something that people believe to be true that you know to be false? any specific group that you may not agree with uh that their intentions are bad or that they're coming from a bad place i try to take a step back on a lot of issues and try to like observe it you know from a more disassociative like less biased try to be more objective i think when people are stereotyping other races and stuff they're not coming necessarily from a bad place, even if the result is bad. They just don't know enough and they just keep strengthening that point of view and

it's to enhance their sense of well-being. It's a terrible aftermath, but I don't think they're coming in from, I want to hurt this person or this person is bad. This is coming in. Oh, this is my group. And my group will always reign supreme. Right, this is my team. Exactly.

So I'm going to oppose all other teams. And you could root this in football, college basketball. You see the same thing. And it almost doesn't – Partisan politics. Yeah, and it doesn't matter. Like you could watch the same uh trial whether let's bring up oj or whatever and people are going to see the same cues the

same evidence and we'll have two dramatically different points of view on it uh and that point of view is aligning also with their group that they identify with we're pro this or we're pro this or we're anti that and we're anti that, even though the source of information that they now are all fully pro-Trump, even though taking a step back, that seems like the very last thing you would expect evangelical Christians to be into. But exactly like you're saying, because they sort of lumped themselves into this group. And also, you know, I would also say to add to that, even though, you know, there are some places where I think most of our listeners would agree, you know shitty uh treatment from mainstream culture so uh every time they're treated like shit or dismissed or called rednecks or whatever uh that adds to that sort of division and i think you're right like kind of viewing things as okay it's our tribe versus theirs it really doesn't explain a lot of, it's our tribe versus theirs. It really doesn't explain a lot of this. Which is throughout history, it's their tribe versus our tribe.

Right. But it's, you know, the fact, it explains some of the things that you would think would be contradictory, like the fact that evangelicals' new, you know, figurehead is Donald Trump. Yeah. I think when it becomes more severe, and that's when it starts getting to racism and stuff, I think in the future, the same way that Asperger's is a spectrum, I think racism will become a spectrum in the sense that as far as mental health is concerned, when people have extreme categorizations in their head to the point of absurdity that's when it's a mental health issue I mean I'm not saying this is science or anything like that but when the racism is so strong it then

becomes a mental health issue it's like their brain cannot stop or know when to stop stereotyping to the point where they're just constantly categorizing making it black and white and then just dispelling hatred that's when it's like, oh, your brain is not operating at a normal level, and you're just categorizing everything to the point where it's like –

It's like a sort of a runaway train effect. Yeah, exactly. And then it's like, oh, no, no, there's something more there. You just don't know when to stop. And the reason I asked about the age of the women who you were talking about stereotyping earlier is just I read a statistic over the weekend. you know, Trump supporters being racist and all that stuff, how concentrated those points of of older people who are putting this stuff front and center. And then there's like some very visible younger people who go around marching with tiki torches and we look at them and we're like, well, it must be all ages. And it's actually very concentrated in the elderly. Yeah. all ages and it's actually very concentrated yeah yeah the elderly yeah and i think that's an important distinction because that also goes up with their upbringing and also what they were

exposed to when they were younger oh the baby boomers they're gonna give me shit i love them such a mess uh all right we have so many stories to get to uh and let's just get to one of the quick hits here up top. Let's go a little late because we've been talking some heavy stuff. Let's talk about the On the Run 2 tour, which was announced this morning. It is the number one trending thing on Google, and it is the Jay-Z Beyonce tour, the sequel to the On the Run 1 tour. Probably if you didn't catch the tour itself, you probably saw the HBO special, which that's what happened to me, and it made me regret not seeing the first tour. I feel like this is going to be the hottest ticket.

Wait, was Beyonce part of On the Run 1? Yeah, it was Jay-Z and run yeah yeah it was jay-z and beyonce and it was 2014 dual performance it was an amazing show and since then they've each come out with these like you know infidelity albums that like make it so interesting to see what this tour is going to be like i feel like it's the... On the run tour. Yeah. Passive aggressive. Right. Passive aggressive silence. It's probably the most interesting live music event that I can remember.

I didn't... I missed out on the... Maybe Watch the Throne? Yeah, the first time the tour came around, I missed out on it. And I was there. Yeah, you were talking about this today. This is one of the first things I took my girlfriend to. We went to the show.

And, you know. This was in L.A.? This was in L.A. at the Rose Bowl. And, you know, this is Beyonce and Jay-Z, so we're excited. By the way, your girlfriend is how I met you, one of the most professional, smartest people I've ever met. Rose is very professional. Yeah. And she didn't know she got caught up with scumbag Jay-Z fan fan like me and didn't realize how i like to get down a rap show which is you know drink a little bit

you know maybe puff on something and she kind of uh you know overestimated what it's like to hang with the boy yeah by the middle of the show she was a mess like like like vomiting and we had to leave the show early oh and i thought you were gonna go with she was babysitting no no no no no no she she kind of you know she was feeling herself a little bit too much and and we had to leave the show early and but that's when i knew i was like you know what i rock with her because i'm even willing to leave the jay-z show because she was in such bad shape but like i like i had to almost carry her out and they're like. There were these scumbag dudes who were like, yeah, dog. I was like, I'm not.

I'm fucking crazy. The Jay-Z audience is so bro-y that they see a dude carrying a woman over his shoulder and they're like, yeah, bro. It's all you. I was like, no, motherfucker. I'm looking out for this. Don't get me caught up in this shit because it already looks crazy

if a man of color is walking out with an unconscious white woman. I didn't have her over my shoulder like i was doing like the wounded soldier thing right uh but yeah it's so you know rosie you can make good on this and and now we can go make amends on on the run tour too at what point in the concert did this happen like oh man did you get to see so they were like alternating so i got to see like my first the first solid hour and a half and then it just went then it just turned to darkness and then these two older black women were like looking at me they're like you need to get your girl out the fuck away from me because she was like yeah spinning and they already knew right and i did not want to incur the wrath of these women

because they looked like they didn't they were dressed up for the beyonce show yeah i'm not i don't even i can't defend you against them there were were maybes. Yeah, yeah. The beehive would have fucked us up. Yeah. We got the fuck out. Who opened? No, it was just them. Oh, really? Oh, wow.

It's like a three-hour show. They go back and forth, and then they come on together. It's massive. That's wild. You should check out the HBO special. It's really – I didn't even know there was an HBO special. Yeah, it's one of the better live concert event things that I've seen.

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up to some real financial liability by doing this. But then it's also like, when you think about it, it's like, okay, well then who's your client right i think he specifically said that right yeah uh that's what his yeah that's what her lawyer her lawyer was like yeah uh okay that's fine so uh who who is going to cause that financial liability who's coming after the dennis sin yeah this guy michael avenatti is not playing around like he sued the nfl like he – he's not fucking Michael Cohen, who's the kind of lawyer who – it was basically Donald Trump's attack dog in New York. He would just call people and threaten them with life-ending lawsuits. Michael Cohen is Trump's attorney. Yes.

Okay, yeah. And then Stormy Daniels' attorney is a serious – like the sort of attorney that a president would get you know like he's a high profile attorney who has been involved in cases like miles said suing the nfl like he's no joke yeah and like he's very polished seeming and i've heard a lot of praise for him both as a public figure and his looks uh so yeah so either way trump responds to returning he it's a lose-lose for him right what it seems yeah either way he has to acknowledge that he's either trying to shut her up or that he did enter an agreement with her because they had it's just you know it's tough going and then yesterday she posted a picture with like her and

anderson cooper and her lawyer because she's gonna be on 60 minutes next week yeah apparently his lawyers are saying we might sue 60 minutes to make it so they can't release that but trump is the king of claiming he's gonna sue someone and then nothing ever happening he's like the dana lash uh right like the way dana lash is on twitter with brands That's what Trump's legal team is like. If this goes to trial, wouldn't she automatically have to reveal, disclose her relationship with Donald Trump? Yeah. I mean, that's the thing. Regardless if she's signed an agreement or not.

I think now they would make the argument purely about the fact that this agreement wasn't signed and that's sort of the crux of it it's like that this agreement is no i don't think that wasn't signed by who miles by donald trump or dick dickington or whatever he called himself in the like the weird pseudonym he used why why would it be signed by him if nothing happened well that's why it's look bro smoke bomb get the fuck out of there yeah well and know, the only person who's winning here is Stormy Daniels. Oh, she's killing it. Because she's like, yeah, I'll give the $130 back because I already got someone offering me $5 million for dick pics that I have or whatever. Because last week they revealed that she had texts and pictures or other materials, which who knows what those are.

And that will help her because she's got the Make America Horny Again tour happening. I did not know this. The what now? Make America Horny Again. I think she's basically doing a tour of strip clubs. And that's what it's called? Yeah. We have a little sample of the promo for the Make America Horny Again

tour. Stormy Daniels brings her Making America Horny Again tour to the Trophy Club for a one-night performance this Saturday. Sign me up. You've seen Stormy in movies like Real Sex and The 40-Year Virgin. The Making America Horny Tour hits the Trophy Club on the heels of Stormy's national publicized alleged affair. This is the Queen of Storm Sensation. This dude is missing syllables straight up.

Hashtag Greenville Trophy Club. You will not want to miss Stormy Daniels, the Making America Horny Tour again this Saturday. There's a couple of things. Making America Horny Tour again. The 40-year virgin. Yeah. This dude, they couldn't even hire a guy who could properly read a script. And also, shame on whoever produced that because there was no quality control on that edit.

Well, I was just reading that she was making statements saying this is hurting her career. She's being disingenuous. Come on, Stormy. Make America horny again. He's trying to gaslight you does not mean you need to gaslight us. It's Daniels.

I think she's going to be fine. There's definitely a book that's going to come out. the Stormy Daniels book. A book, a VR experience. Who knows? It could be everything. Does this make you guys feel dirty like the way that the Republicans, when Clinton was president, was all over the salacious details of his affairs? Do you feel like in the end, who really gives a shit?

Or is it just like enough? We just want to see this guy brought down. Again, the Overton window is blown out. Yeah. Who knows where we are? I don't know. I don't know what registers as offensive anymore. When the dick pic comes out.

Second question. When the dick pic comes out, will you look at it? And this is Donald Trump's dick. This is Donald Trump's dick. I mean, yeah. I've got to look at it. Of course. Yeah, we have to look at it.

Everyone's going to look. I'm not going to enjoy it. What if it to enjoy it, but it'll be like a necessary. What if he has a big, beautiful cock, you guys? Oh, my God. If that's true, then, babe, I might be voting different. Yeah, exactly. That might change my view of him. Yeah, I'm like, he wasn't lying when he said his button is bigger and works.

Right. But I don't know. You know, honestly, if there was, I don't think I, I don't know. I mean, I don't know if there's a, I don't believe the dick pic exists. Who knows? Who knows? Just Donald Trump. Only she does.

And he does. But apparently, I mean, like in the thing, they said part of the agreement was to not release materials like texts and images. So I don't know if that's from her to him, to him from her. So I don't know if that's from her to him to him from her. But I just imagine Donald Trump would have a small, like, orangey dick that looks kind of like those trolls when you were little that you could like. Yeah. And that he probably have dicks, did they? No, but his dick would look like a funny hair.

Exactly. Yeah. Like part of the Dom King hair coming off the tip. Yeah. Like white parts under the. Yeah. Don King hair coming off the tip. There'll be like white parts under the – anyway. Yeah, I just imagine him not wanting to take a picture and show that. Therefore, that picture doesn't exist. Yeah, it seems a little not like him. Like he doesn't seem like an exhibitionist in that sense.

But who knows? In the privacy of his own text threads? Yeah. I mean I don't know him at all as a sexual being. You get so many conflicting reports about him. Like with some people, they're like, he's a gentleman and like, we got it on.

And then with some people, he's a rapist. And then with some people, he's like a robot who has never even experienced the concept of human sexuality. There's that story where he brought a model back to his place and just left her in the living room and went up to watch TV by himself. Whoa. That seems – Like there's just weird stuff about him and also weird interviews.

Cody Johnson from Cracked has great material on this and Dan O'Brien as well. We need to call them up and have them talk about it. But they have like all these examples where he's talking about sex and it's just like – It's like the 40-year-old version. Like the 40-year-old version. It felt like sand. When you're touching her boob and it's like a bag of sand. No, we borked. You borked?

I tried, I guess this was also a Google thing. I couldn't find her porn. What do you mean? Oh, you have safe search on, my man. Maybe. I don't know. I haven't seen Stormy Day. I don't think I've seen her find her porn. What do you mean? Oh, you have safe search on my man. Maybe. I haven't seen stormy day. I don't think I've seen her in a porn. Well, she does like, like full movies.

You know what I mean? Like space nuts. Right. The ones with like video door neighbors. Cause she's old school. I'm like the newer porn generation. Right. Yeah.

She's definitely the kind that, uh uh is known by people who pay for porn and go to porn conventions and they're like stormy yeah like who treat porn like it's wwe and they like follow the storylines and yeah um so retweet her yeah exactly uh all right so that's one thing we're keeping an eye on. Keeping our eye on that. Betsy DeVos, as we're pronouncing it. She had a hell of a week. She had a fucked up week. To say the least. these charter schools and, you know, that public schools will be forced to compete with them. And it will bring up their the performance of all the schools in, you know, an area.

Yeah. Run it like a business. And she is doing this based on her work in Michigan where she did this exact thing. And, you know, you would think that she would be able to answer questions about how that went. But Leslie Stahl just kind of threw it out there. You could almost tell that Leslie Stahl, who's the 60 Minutes anchor who was interviewing her, you could almost tell by her delivery of the question that she didn't think this was a question that was going to make air. She was like, well, you know, kind of threw it out there offhandedly. I think we have the audio from this part of the interview. offhandedly. I think we have the audio from this part of the interview.

Why take money away from that school that's not working to bring them up to a level where they are, where that school is working? Well, we should be funding and investing in students, not in school, school buildings, not in institutions, not in systems. Okay, but what about the kids who are back at the school? It's not working. What about those kids? Well, in places where there has been a lot of choice that's been introduced, Florida, for example. Your argument that if you take funds

away, that the schools will get better is not working in Michigan, where you had a huge impact and influence over the direction of the school system here. I hesitate to talk about all schools in general because schools are made up of individual students attending them. The public schools here are doing worse than they did. Michigan schools need to do better. There is no doubt about it.

Have you seen the really bad schools maybe try to figure out what what they're doing i have not i have not i've not intentionally visited schools that are underperforming maybe you should maybe i should yes what the fuck her preparation for okay if they ask you about the failed experiment in your core philosophy that you oversaw in Michigan, your response will be what? And her response was either she had no response because she was like, oh, shit, they looked that up. Oh, shit, they know me? Or her response was, well, I can just say that schools are made up of students. And when you look at some students, they do well.

It's like, wow. Yo, that's not how data works. That's not how any judgment of performance of any program would ever, ever be. So what is her overall stance or proposition that we should be taking money away from public schools? Basically, charter schools are the answer. Run charter schools like businesses. They'll compete with each other, and that will bring up performance. It's like sort of what this was all about, like what she was pushing for a long time. So when Leslie Stahl references taking money away from public schools, that's basically the money that is being spent on public schools currently by school districts would go to charter schools instead.

They would be taking that money away from public schools that are already failing and giving it to charter schools, these new schools. And the idea is that then these charter schools would do better and just by sheer competition, public schools would feel like they would be inspired to do better? Or just encourage competition among charter schools. Her whole thing is really just, it's not based on anything factual. Does she want to eliminate public schools? She wouldn't say that, but that's systematically what she's dismantling, the public school system. So, I mean, basically, there are some great charter schools.

But the problem is that you are not guaranteed to have a charter school in your neighborhood. And so they're spreading the funding out. They're taking funding away from public schools, which you are guaranteed to have, and giving it to these other schools. So it's screwing people whose only option is public schools my only option in high school was public school yeah i mean for most of my life like a small town yeah there was nothing else yeah um so the whole devos is that her name yeah devos devos davos she worth whatever so when you guys were saying charter before, I was putting it in the same breath as a private school. It's like this weird in-between.

Yeah, it's in-between the two. Interesting. Okay. They have like an agreement with like the state to run as a school underneath it. Yeah. And some of them have been shown to work and there have been some that create really interesting amazing people like uh super producer anna hosnier yeah i've heard of her but the idea is that basically they think something public can't work and so rather than funding public schools which you know used to be seen as one of the great strengths of america was our public school system. Rather than funding public schools and providing access to education that's equal for everybody,

they are creating this new system that allows them to – like there's a reason they're doing this instead of funding public schools. Yeah, one of the other reasons to the profit aspect is that if you have to build a charter school, that means a real estate developer can build it and get money to build it. Okay. And rather than the existing public schools, like, no, just build a new thing, which will cost money, and that money can go to someone in the private sector to build it. Yeah. So there are many facets of it that can make it complicated.

Okay. Yeah. So instead of doing a good job explaining this, she had an interview where she did a terrible job defending the idea. And presumably because they knew this interview was a huge L that she was going to take, the administration released a plan for school safety basically in the dark of night on a Sunday night. And there was like a media conference call where Betsy DeVos spoke to the media to announce their sort of actions in response to the Florida school shooting. And they're now calling it rather than being gun focused. It is a school safety initiative. They will be focusing on repealing Obama era school discipline efforts because everything done under Obama was evil and probably the cause of school shootings. Looking into the impact of video games on youth violence, which is just a widely discredited theory that makes zero sense. Every country has video games and other countries are not having the mass shooting problems that we're having.

And also they're looking at the effects of press coverage of mass violence. I mean, we did on this show talk about the fact that the media could maybe stop talking about like putting the face and name of mass shooters front and center. So, I mean, it is cool that they're talking about press coverage of mass violence. It's cool to see a presidential administration talk about that. I just feel like they are going to treat that in a very strange way. The Trump administration, their relationship to the media is such that I don't necessarily trust them to be the ones to enforce rules.

They're just anything to antagonize the media. And I don't think antagonizing the media is the way to go on that one. It's everyone but the guns strategy. Yeah, it's everyone but the guns strategy yeah it's everyone but the gun strategy i mean they're also supporting a couple very minor gun changes basically making gun sellers actually do background checks like the law says they should right so there is some gun stuff but for the most part it's you know an nra a response to it's just distraction even like last week you know when we were talking about that florida bill like yes, it's a small step.

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Full of jazz jam. Yeah, just an appearance in Pennsylvania Friday night where he was just riffing, baby, just doing his thing. I get it. Swallowed a handful of amphetamines based on the Spy Magazine report from last week that he was prescribed amphetamines in the 80s. Every time I see him now go up there and just sort of riff and babble for an hour straight, I'm reminded of that report. He did a lot of Adderall. Yeah.

He was prescribed something that's very similar to Adderall during the 80s. He was prescribed something that's very similar to Adderall during the 80s. But he – yeah, what did he cover in this session? One of the things was called Chuck Todd, a sleepy-eyed son of a bitch. Son of a bitch. But another thing he talked about was blue ribbon panels and these sort of commissions where I think the way he described it is, yeah, and these things don't do anything. It's like your wife and your wife and your husband get together and they talk and they say, oh, I'm going to recommend this thing. Like he's like mocking the idea of the thing that he was about to, you know,

announce at the end of the weekend. But that's fine, baby. It's jazz. It's jazz, man. I'm just out here. I got the notes. Yeah. Now let me just jam.

I mean, he touched on so many different things. He was just all over the place. When was this? It was in Pennsylvania. It was mostly covered by, you know, Fox News. Yeah. I'm sure CNN was on it too. Because there's a special election, I think, tomorrow that's, you know, very, very big,

very important. And, you know, both parties have. That's very, very big, very important. And both parties have put a lot of money into this. But anyway, he was talking about – he even said something about Oprah where he was like – he's like, I would love Oprah to run. I know her weakness. I know her weakness. I know her very well. I was on her last show the last week. And he wasn't.

But again, that's cool that he – like he's going to fight a dragon in a fucking fantasy game. I know her weakness. I'll use my level five bangle to defend against her fire breath. Anyway, whatever. And again, he said, wouldn't we love to run against Oprah Winfrey? I would love it. That would be very painful for her. Huh.

Like, what the fuck is he? I mean, again, he's doing that jazz, baby. Yeah. Yeah. And Fox's response was, whoa, this guy is the best candidate. He's definitely going to win in 2020 because look at him riff, which is what it was. It was just him doing his campaign trail thing. No, no, no.

It was Fox News basically just, you know, doing their Trump is the greatest. He's the savior of all mass media. And the thing that now I can't stop thinking about Trump. Every time I see him speak in public, I'm thinking this is the guy who's going to sit down with Kim Jong-un and try and negotiate the fate of the free world in the coming months. Is that really happening? Well, a lot of people speculate. They're like, could it happen? Could it not?

I mean, there will be some kind of talks. I mean, I don't know. You would have to have a muzzle on Trump because, again, he doesn't mean anything he says. And that would be a real problem when you're trying to negotiate denuclearization. I think he means it in the moment, but his mood is so volatile and unpredictable. He does a real good job just mirroring whatever the sentiment is of the person he's talking to. So he might come out. I don't know.

What is that going to look like when he's in the room with North Koreans? I don't know. I don't know how Kim Jong-un is as far as what his personality like. I mean, he just wanted to get a talk with the president for years. I mean, every North Korean leader has wanted this, and he finally got it. So I think he feels good because we've legitimized him. He got it because he could tell Trump was thirsty as fuck for a win. So he's like, we would be maybe willing to meet.

Yes, yes, yes. Yes, I'll take it. I will take it. Tell them I'll do it. I think it was the quote they told the South Korean delegation. Tell them I'll do it. So in the realm of popular culture, it is March Madness. The brackets were released last night.

I don't really have that much to say because it's I don't know. The the only reason to pay much attention to NCAA basketball this year is that there's an FBI investigation going on that implicates players who ended up going to, you know, the top schools, Duke, North Carolina, Michigan State kentucky uh arizona north carolina state texas louisville all implicated in these wiretaps and this is being conducted by the fbi not the ncaa so the ncaa is sort of in a wait and see mode they can't necessarily punish these schools yet like louisville obviously already jumped the gun and uh fired their coach but that was more because their board of directors like had a thing with him but so these other schools are just kind of in a wait and see but they they could be in a lot of trouble and the ncaa is supposed to be waiting and seeing but uh it looks like they might have been sort of screwing some of these schools that are probably going to be in trouble, that probably cheated.

Like Kentucky and Arizona are going to play each other in the second round, even though they're two of the top teams. So only one of them can make it through that. Wait, what did they do that was illegal or that was potentially illegal? So basically the FBI seized a computer from an agent and it had like spreadsheets that were like pay this player $35,000, pay this player $15,000. And we know where those players ended up going. This is for like the past 10 years. So it stands to reason that these were paid players. Paid to go to specific schools. We don't know that yet.

Okay. But it's just. But there's some sort of payment. Right. There was payment to players who ended up going to Duke, North Carolina, Kentucky. Okay. So literally pay for play. Yeah.

Pay for. Right. Exactly. Which, you know, I don't think that players shouldn't be paid, but the NCAA is this crazy institution. So also USC and Louisville both didn't make the tournament at all. They're both two of the teams that are implicated. That was for USC. They're the highest RPI-ranked major conference teams to ever not make it.

Louisville is the second highest RPI-ranked major conference team to not make the turn. How could they defend that they're not? They don't have to. They didn't make the March Madness bracket. The NCAA is like the no-consequences institution that you get in dictatorships. They just get to do whatever the fuck they want. They don't have to answer to anyone. It's like the charter school yeah and they make massive amounts of money on the backs of these

student athletes like billions of dollars off these student athletes and if they find out that one of them made uh was paid 25 dollars for like right or free headphones or some shit yeah given a ride somewhere that doesn't like line up with how they're supposed to be given a ride, then they will end that player's college basketball career. Take a deep look at yourself, NCAA. So we'll keep an eye on the NCAA, but garbage institution. I mean, the only thing I care about is if UCLA makes it in a tournament, which we'll probably do terribly.

It might not even make it in. Yeah, you guys are in the play-in game. The play-in game against St. Bonaventure. I mean, that counts as making the tournament. Thank you for that horrible consolation prize. No, it doesn't. Yeah, not for UCLA. No.

For St. Bonaventure, they're just happy to be there. But for UCLA, yeah, that's kind of a... It's called abject failure. But a lot of people didn't even think that UCLA was going to make the tournament at all this year. Yeah. Look, I'm still holding on to the John Wooden days, and I wasn't even alive. So that's how good that is. Actually, not 95.

So Fox last night aired a two-hour interview with O.J. Simpson called O.J. Simpson, colon, The Last Confession. That was just some old interview that they had where they had interviewed him around the release of his book. If I did it where, uh, he basically confessed was like, here's how I would have done it if I did. And,

uh, they were doing this because ABC was releasing the first episode of American Idol and they gave up on American Idol. So I'm assuming they wanted some big high rating thing to kind of fuck over American Idol. That did not work. This got the same rating that The Simpsons and other comedy reruns usually get. But it was – It is a comedy rerun in a sense right but uh there is like some crazy shit like he talks about he's like nicole fell over then ron got into a karate thing i grabbed the knife i do remember that portion taking the

knife yeah then he says he blacked out woke woke up, and stuff around, blood and stuff around. Wait, what? Yeah. Like, he admits to- And this was all last night in an interview? No, so this is like an old interview that they basically shit-canned because it was, like, in such poor taste. And so creepy to see O.J. Simpson, like, basically describing the murders. Wait, he's saying this is what i did to kill them he's if he had killed them but then why is he saying if we're ron goldman in a karate thing what does

that mean he yeah it's like he's envisioning like he's like if i did it nicole would have fallen over and ron would have gotten a karate it does not make any logical sense uh of course if something like this would take place in anybody's life i would imagine it's something you probably automatically have trouble wrapping your mind around it it was horrible it was absolutely horrible it was probably a quote him describing what he remembered and then saying he blacked out and he's like but if i were going to in that situation, I probably would have done it this way. Yeah. Come on, OJ.

This is crazy. Yo. Congratulations, everyone, for not watching it live and rewarding Fox. But, yeah, maybe catch the YouTube highlights of it because it sounds like it's just incredible that he basically described the murders on video. So that happened. Monday, baby! All right. That is going to do it for today.

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