The Daily Zeitgeist - A Trend With No Zeitgeist 4/24: TikTok, London Marathon Wine Guy, George Santos, Flight Cancellations, Owen Wilson

Episode Date: April 24, 2024

In this edition of A Trend With No Zeitgeist, Jack and Miles discuss TikTok getting banned, the London Marathon Wine Guy, George Santos' big comeback, Airlines being forced to pay you back for flight cancellations/major delays, the OJ Simpson movie that Owen Wilson *wont* be starring in and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello the internet and welcome to this episode of a trend through the zeitgeist on a trend with no zeitgeist it's been good to be out of the trends oh that is

courtesy of that song being in my head ever since Miles said. It's that Neil Young banger, dude. Well, we all were thinking that that is by Neil Young. Somebody else pointed out, they were like, I actually always thought it was by America, which was a song that Neil Young

was the lead singer of, which I also thought. That was like how that mistake worked its way through my brain also. I was like, that's a Neil Young song. Oh, it's by America. I didn't know Neil Young was in a song called America. That guy's a liar. He's actually Canadian.

Anyways. It's because of GTA San Andreas that I first heard that song to begin with. Is that real? Yeah, that's the first time I heard it. It was on one of the radio stations on Grand Theft Auto. Pause real quick. What? Jack, is that a loose XLR cable

just hanging? Are you plugged in? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's plugged into his Zoom recorder. Okay, sorry. Leave it, Brian. Could you imagine? Oh, shit. Right. I gotta plug this yeah so the thing is

you know how Steven Tyler likes to have a lot of scarves wrapped around his mic I like to have a lot of loose SLRs wrapped around my mic

XLRs XLRs I call them SLRs that would be we're talking about a camera at that point a single lens reflex I like to have single lens reflex cameras wrapped around my mic stand.

All right. Hey, I'm Jack. That's Miles. Hey. And these are, it's Wednesday, April 24th, 42424. Yep. 42424. And these are some of the things that are trending on 42424.

TikTok is banned.'s try assholes but we're not falling for it banished you are TikTok hereby banished from the phones of our children so that they may not disagree with us anymore it's the it's just make

this is the creating all these status quo haters I don't know what the fuck's going on with this TikTok like creating all these status quo haters i don't know what the fuck's going on with this tiktok machine how are they doing it it surely can't be a symptom of the system it's no uh but yeah like so we talked about how the aid package was signed for aid for israel ukraine and then like people in the allies in the indo-pacific region uh but along with that was the ban on tiktok 95 billies yeah yeah when like within there look it now has what they call conveniently has a new timeline uh that delays the ban until after the election just in case that's gonna you know energize younger voters uh again like well it's not gonna happen till after

um and then plus there's a lot of like these possibilities of extension the thing is though this was always talked about being like it's going to be litigated in court there's no way that they're just gonna be like okay yeah because you decided um we will sell to another company yeah so the tiktok ceo came out and was, we're pretty confident that this is unconstitutional. Quote, the facts and the Constitution are on our side and we expect to prevail, which apparently last year, Montana tried to ban TikTok. Just getting out there. Hell yeah, Montana. Hell yeah, brother. I love it. But the law was blocked by a judge who said that the government did not successfully show that their bill was constitutionally permissible, whatever the fuck that means. And the judge estimated that it had more to do with targeting China than with protecting Montana consumers.

Similar vibes here with this bill too based on the hearings that we saw. Sounds like a Manchurian candidate to me. Sounds like the judge of Montana is a communist as Montana judges are wont to be. So anyways it's an unpopular

policy that I'm just curious like what is actually going on behind the scenes? Is, is he getting the pressure from the Pentagon? Is he getting it from Mark Zuckerberg? Well, we talked about it. Like when it first happened, there's a tremendous lobbying effort from American tech companies because you can tell, look, they're, they're all chasing

TikTok, like what the, look at what happened to Instagram. They're like, we can, we haveiktok at home it's called reels and just ignore the tiktok water marks you see on your reels videos because people aren't just like transposing them from one platform to the other and yeah it's about a protecting american tech interests american yeah and you get a you get a good dose of sinophobia and being like well china's looking at like you know who knows what their government's doing who knows what our government is doing with our data okay can you answer me that and if it's about the data we said if it's about the data protection why aren't you coming after why aren't you cleaning up your own house first why aren't

we talking about twitter or facebook and all that shit um so there's a lot wrapped up into it and then obviously with the you know uh war in gaza kicking off that led to like an explosion of a lot of pro-palestinian sentiment and then that also you started to see more politicians act as if there's like some massive psyop going on yeah with people that were somehow offended at the imagery of suffering innocent people china made me worried about the death of innocent people and i will never forgive them for it yeah exactly brainwashed me there's so much so much in there but yeah it's like it's just like one of those purely it's like so transparently flawed when you're like dude if you really gave a fuck you do this you'd go after the fucking companies that more americans are actually using and i get that a ton of young people use Tick Tock but like let's not pretend

this is about data privacy when you've done fuck all to really do anything to shore up that kind of for consumers um yeah and you know tech companies are the number one spenders when it comes to lobbying efforts so uh or they were fairly recently they're up there at the very least yeah let's talk about uh the london marathon wine guy uh who sampled 25 wines while completing the race yeah at every fucking mile yeah after every mile completed he would be offered a glass of wine where he would challenge himself to identify not just the fucking grape, but the region and the fucking year. And he got a few spot on and other ones generally right. So enough for you, you're like, oh yeah, that is a thing you can do with your mouth is learn how to taste the different old grapes juices.

Mixed in with presumably a lot of Gatorade that he was like drinking in between. Can you imagine? It's all like ephedrine. Like he was like doping. He's like, yeah, let me try this one. Yeah. Wait, and I'm going to get this blood transfusion to get some more, some oxygen into my bloodstream. But yeah, he, he did seem to be getting

happier as the race went along uh yeah so maybe this is going to be a new training method i've uh i've run marathons i've uh gone and supported uh i've run yeah a couple marathons whoa uh gone and supported my wife while she was running marathons i've seen the wife do the marathons recently when's the last time you ran a marathon uh i ran one when uh we were about to have so i guess 2016 i ran the la wow weird before we started working okay cool yeah yeah yeah i ran a marathon too in like 2014 probably before before we met yeah so you probably didn't hear about it. You didn't hear about it. I actually won the LA Marathon. Like, I ran it over two hours.

Ran it. Oh, man. Did a sub, too. Like, this guy stopped every mile to sample wine. I took a stop every mile to take a shit. I had a real tough time at the time I ran the LA Marathon. I was like, it's called the trots uh i won't dig into it too much but uh yeah it was not fun wow chicago marathon i had a blast i had a blast in 2012 literally

literally metaphorically i had a i did not metaphorically i had a fun time oh okay the chicago marathon um but yeah drinking and marathon running go together more than uh i would have expected before i got to know marathoners they they like to have a good time out there yeah yeah but like yeah and i like when i first saw it i was like this guy is so smug and then i saw that he was doing it to like raise money for like this hospice charity like like that his mom was like at and i was like, oh, there's some heart to this story. Fine! We'll allow it. You raised 13,000 pounds.

Good for you. And also, you get to flex your wine mouth skills. He seemed genuinely buzzed as the thing went along. At first, I was like, okay, guys, we're going to just believe everything. We're going to believe that because he's drinking something that's that color, that it must be wine because it's coming out of a wine glass.

Then he had 25 of them. Yeah. He just kept going and he did seem to be like getting a little drunker as the race went along, which I'm told is not typically how marathons work. Typically you get more and more miserable and yeah but again he was just sort of like hey it helped to have the promise of a nice glass of wine at the end of every mile so this guy for you likes wine it's nice to see somebody who likes something uh this much yeah you know yeah and like at first i was like ah whatever about this i mean like i saw the video and i was again because i'm so i'm like the furthest thing from understanding wine that like i get hostile

because i'm ignorant about it i'm like yeah yeah the fuck this is so fuck it you know what i mean uh but then you know he's he's he's doing it for his mother and the people that took care of her at the end of her life so go on sip your wine he really could not have gotten away with this without that like no be like the two most like annoying things for like ways people to like be smug and superior is running a marathon and being like a wine expert so they combine the two is like oh fuck you you have to offset that with mother and hospice yeah and then you're like all right it's like people are like booing him by the end yeah fuck you fuck you elite piece of shit yeah no my mother oh okay all right fine let's take a quick break and we'll be right back

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This is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And George Santos, I didn't know he was staging a comeback. Yeah, we purposefully, or at least I didn't bother mentioning it because I'm like, we've given this fucking freak enough oxygen.

But I'm glad we're coming back we're to the end of this i feel justified because he was like i'm coming back and i'm running against this republican i'm getting my seat back um and he's like and the reason and he's like and i'm not a scammer and i'm not taking big donor money like it's gonna be real legit funds which next Bernie Sanders except a Republican who's dispersed yeah so he has recently announced that he

won't in fact be running for Congress against current Republican Congressman Nick Lallotta after all because he doesn't want to quote split the ticket and be responsible for handing the house to democrats oh is that what happened no actually it might actually have to do with the fact that his campaign has raised a total of let me see if i got this right uh zero

dollars uh oh okay okay okay like zero is wild that's yeah that's a very low number that's like it's a that's like the most violent zero ever yeah when you're like dude i rate you couldn't even fucking ask just a random a rando on the street for like a fucking buck at least you could say like i wrote i raised a dollar yeah but zero is like ain't nobody fucking with you george i get it and you you were gonna be the petty congressperson and we're doing your cameos but like let's keep with you george i get it and you you were gonna be the petty congressperson and we're doing your cameos but like let's keep it real george you also took a fucking plea deal in your fraud trial right which may also be the reason why you can't quite campaign because you have a trial that you need to attend hey that hasn't stopped some of our greatest politicians

from no continuing on and that's why i know he doesn't, he's not made it. He's not, he doesn't have the right stuff, man. Yeah. His, uh, 2022 campaign still has tons of debt.

It's, uh, $6,000 owed to his campaign treasurer, uh, who was still somehow his campaign treasurer in this comeback bid. Uh, just a person who's like, nah,

he's good for it. Check. If that's a real person. Could you imagine? It's like, and this Jason D. Bowles character is not even a real person. Yeah, you touch them and their head rolls off. It's just a mask on a pillow. You weren't there that day when we were talking about it on Trends, but the woman who brought her dead uncle to the bank to get a loan in rio in brazil like she wheeled in a corpse like fresh off of death and like yeah he would like to apply for a loan please and they're like yo his head is falling back in a way i've never seen anybody alive do it oh my god she was like holding his hand like come

on now sign the agreement. And she was like, I'm sorry, he's like tired. Yeah, surprised he didn't do that. That happened in New York also a number of years ago when I was working at Cracked. That was the story we covered. A weekend at Bernie's loan application? Weekend at Bernie's

loan application. Yep. I think the thing is that's vital. They gotta be wearing really thick dark sunglasses yeah you can't just put somebody who looks like a dead body wait they didn't have sunglasses on and no it was just like gray eyes yes like half open and i mean like i saw the blur i saw the blurred video because like obviously like we don't need to see all that. But there's a moment where she goes to grab something from the bank person

and she forgets to support the head and it just goes... It was bad. It was bad. That's a lot to deal with. But yeah, Weekend at Bernie's in reality... I think that goes... That's in reality like that i think that goes for like that's the movie

premise that goes from like most fun in theory and movie form to like desecration of a corpse in real life yes there's no way you can't like laugh off fucking around like marionetting a corpse i'm going to desecrate my loved one's corpse because I need money really bad. Um, is that cool? Yeah. Yeah. It's a bigger critique on our world than anything,

but yeah. Hey, speaking of needing money really bad, um, this is something, I guess this was always a possibility. Uh, but so airlines will now be required to give automatic cash refunds for

canceled and delayed flights. That had never occurred. Like the idea that if a flight is delayed for too long, that you would get money back. Yeah. Had never occurred to me. No. Well, yeah, because we're so used to the abuse that you're like, yeah. And then you just kind of tell them, okay, I guess I'll just wait to see my family.

Yes. And I will like it, as you said. And I, family yes and i will like it as you said and i yes and i will like it i am liking it thank you thank you like john millennia has that bit about like how badly he would let the let people treat him before he was married and she's like okay you're a pig aren't you yes yes go over here now go over there okay yeah like that's that is exactly how i let the airlines treat me um and apparently so the biden administration issued final rules wednesday to require airlines to automatically issue cash refunds for things like delayed flights and to better disclose fees uh baggage or canceling a reservation. I think it's great. It's just like how they trick us.

Three hours is considered now a massive enough delay for a domestic flight. Six hours for international flights. And they can still be like, well, we can give you a flight credit, but consumers can reject the offer. You can reject the offer you can reject the offer i know it's like no actually no thanks what it's like it's like it's like yeah we have like the same deference or just fear to like of airline policies like we do the police like i don't know if you can say that to a cop yeah shut the fuck up man you're gonna get us in trouble with the air no i'm pretty sure my first amendment rights protect. Don't fucking find out.

Don't fucking find out. Just fucking go with it, bro. Go with the fucking abuse, man. You can't do anything. I mean, yeah. A bunch of small victories, too, because also working with the FTC, now there's also the non-compete bullshit. Yeah, non-compete. It's fucking gone.

What the fuck is this guy doing over here? Hey, he's doing everything but calling for an immediate ceasefire doing everything you can everything else though these are one for them one for us these are great joe biden these are great i like to hear that you're bringing also back like the the over the ability for people to have like log overtime uh in certain jobs great yeah you love to hear it but there's also other things that we can also add to this too and but hey man when one day at a time man i think you'll come around maybe hopefully hopefully before the i don't know i don't know if you will um i hope you do please please please sir um owen wilson was trending uh this morning i know me too that's really like it's

been a while it's been a while yeah um it's been a while there it's been a while it's been a while uh my stomach the other day literally reminded me of owen wilson i i for some reason i had a protein like smoothie before bed and when i woke up in the morning when my stomach yeah well i had worked out and then like i was like oh i should like have some protein uh and when when like when my stomach woke me up in the morning i was was like, wow, wow. Oh, no. It was really just fucking me up. But Owen Wilson was trending because there's apparently an unfinished O.J. Simpson satirical thriller called The Juice, which there's already a movie called Juice Idiots. Not The Juice, though.

That's the only dumb thing about this project. It suggests that oj might have been innocent it was going to be produced by brett ratner who presumably has a vested interest in stories that try to exonerate famous abusers wow so according to the director of this terrible project he met with owen wilson for the lead role of a real life attorney named Douglas McCann, who got sucked into various conspiracy theories during Simpson's 1995 criminal trial. And this was a serious enough film that they offered him at the at the end of the meal. They offered Owen Wilson twelve million dollars at the end of the lunch.

Owen Wilson $12 million at the end of the lunch. Wow. He got up and said, you think I'm going to take the lead role in a movie about how OJ didn't do it? You gotta be kidding me, man. Wow. Wow.

I think I'm gonna take a bag for that. What this book presupposes is maybe it didn't. Oh, man. Well, good for you, Owen Wilson, but you're on the wrong side of history because OJ didn't do that shit, man. Come on. Get with the rest of us. Wrong side, man. You fucked up, Owen. Come on. Acknowledge the fact that it was a

make good for Rodney King. At the very least. We'll allow it. We'll allow it. We allow murder here. Alright. Those are some of the things that are trending on this Wednesday, April 24th. We're back tomorrow with the whole last episode

of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you

all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports.

Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadston. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.