The Daily Zeitgeist - A Very Chris Crofton Episode 07.29.22

Episode Date: July 29, 2022

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The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 247, episode 5 of Dear Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it's Friday, July 29th, 2022, day before my mom's birthday. Shout out to Sharon. Also, my bad, two days after Jack O'Brien's birthday. Shout out. Also, my bad. Two days after Jack O'Brien's birthday. I know he likes to keep it real quiet around here.

And he let it slip. And I'm like, and then I forgot to say it on your actual birthday. But, you know, we're not. I know you and I are not big birthday people. We're not big birthday people. As a 42-year-old man, I feel weird making a big deal about my birthday. I just don't. I just don't i just don't want my own birthday makes me uncomfortable sometimes anyway all that to say july 29th letting you know

what day it is it's national get gnarly day i don't know what the fuck that means oh get gnar gnar day gnar day uh i don't know what that means i think just embrace new ideas and toss out old ways. Oh, so that's just how I live, actually? I'm just like constantly on that new idea grind. For sure. Maybe Joe Biden can get an Arlie today, too. For sure. National Chicken Wing Day. Love that.

And National Lasagna Day. Shout out to Garfield. So I have a new theory about Joe Biden. Did you see the clip? Well, we'll wait. We'll bring our guest in because I want to talk to him about this, too. But remind me that I have a new theory about joe biden did you see the clip well we'll wait we'll bring our guest in because i want to talk to him about this too but remind me that i have a new theory about joe biden but shout out to what did you put chicken wings number three as was that i mean that's like to me i'm like i don't it's like religion you know what i mean like every day can be chicken wing day i don't

fine you know philosophy i don't need to preach the gospel of the chicken wing to anybody at this point. You either know or you don't at this point. And that's fine. Do what you got to do. Uh-oh. I think I just heard a cold brew get cracked. Yeah. It's true.

You did. Absolutely did. He says with a glint in his eye. Oh, whoa. That shit is called Modern Times? Modern Times, the brewery? Modern Times Coffee written in an old-timey font i got whoa i got two coffees for you oh no chris don't do it cabrisis he's got a fucking stump town

on deck here comes a brain wipe yep don't even say what fucking story we're not even talking about anything today if oh no he's got two c yeah we on deck. I got these for... This is a special occasion. I love coming on this show, and I've been fucking miserable lately. So, I mean, this is a big... This is a big... I'm going crazy today. This, for me, is National Lasagna Day.

Hell yeah. Whatever you said it was, I'm celebrating with cold brew. Hold on a second. Uh-oh. Hold on. All right, we're not allowed to talk while he takes a second. Hold on. We're not allowed to talk while he takes a sip.

Come on. What usually happens on podcasts where you're supposed to speak over your co-host or your guest's sips. He's like, wait. Nope. Let me just take this sip and come back and sing Rhythm is a Dancer.

I'm having some fun. I don't know, guys. You guys probably aren't. You're probably not having that much fun either. We're reading the news every day, you know. So I'm like, this is the greatest. Yeah. This is National Lasagna Day.

Now. That's what I call National Lasagna Day. My favorite anthology of albums. Well, anthology of uh albums well uh anthology of albums my name is jack o'brien aka chip i'm all jacked up on mountain dew that is the rare movie quote that works as an aka without any adjustments from uh the movie talladega nights and yeah my friend was making fun of me with that quote because that was how that's my big uh way I treated myself on my birthday was getting that purple thunder Mountain Dew. And it paid off.

It's the year. Simple man. Simple man. Simple player. That's right. I'd love to see it. Did you know that Will from our sister network, Big Money Players, is in that movie? Will Ferrell, I think.

Will F? The guy from the A.A. meeting? Yeah, Will F. Yeah, from our A meeting will f yeah right yeah that guy yeah he said he was on snl too i'm like okay fool yeah okay yeah anyways uh i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray boys and fill my bowl. I'm making Subway tuna casserole for miles of gray. Okay, shout out to Bottles and Fans. Because, yeah, we're scooping out the fucking seaboys.

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by the wild card of Mount Zypemore, a hilarious stand-up comedian, actor, musician, with a 7.4 rated album on Pitchfork. Author. No big deal. You can listen to his podcast, Cold Brew Got Me Like, or stream it on Twitch. His new book, The Advice King Anthology,

is available to order on Vanderbilt University Press. Vanderbilt University Press. That's right. You fucking hear that? You fucking academic elitist? He's here. Vanderbilt University. The same one you talk about at every Goddamn dinner party

Same one You go to goddamn Turks and Caicos And tell everybody your son Just got in well guess what Oh Braden got into Vanderbilt Oh that's so great He is gonna love it Honors at entrance

Braden's doing great Yeah and also You know Rick who's the local judge He actually dismissed his Honors at entrance. Honors at entrance. Brayden's doing great. Brayden. Yeah. And also the, the, you know, Rick, who's the local judge, he actually dismissed his vehicular homicide case. So he's,

he's got a clear plate to go to college. Now we're really happy for him. Yeah. And they're having this conversation on a beach towel three after three hours after they murdered somebody, you know, but that's like the phone call with the business. Yeah.

Not like in a cool way. It's ghost to talk about that. So you just talk about like fucking Vanderbilt, but yeah, I took over Vanderbilt. Yeah. Yeah. That's the jury university.

Oh yeah. I can go over there anytime I want. I can be like, Chancellor, what's up anyways? Hold on to your butts because the poetry window is open. It's Chris motherfucking Crofter. What's up?

I'm so glad to be here. So good to have you. Thank you. In my barn or wherever I'm in the storage unit I broadcast from. Yeah. You see what's behind me? Yeah, just a bunch of junk. Looks like a yard sale, huh?

Not really. It kind of looks like my room. I'm living that that yard sale life What, you got a hammer there? It's not even mine It's my landlord's stuff It's like a bunch of children's toys And hammers I mean, whatever Somebody else's life that I live in

Looks like a beach high lie Like one of those beach high lie Oh, like scoop ball things? Yeah, probably You know know I don't know About the sea I'm like I have to block a lot of stuff out Yeah That's modern American yeah

Surviving as a modern American when I look At that pile of junk behind me all I see is A I see a fresh pineapple I see all I see Your dollars all I do I see like I see A fruit bowl I see a nicely arranged fruit bowl. The kind that like Cezanne or whoever would have painted it or whatever. Oh, getting arty on us.

El Greco. Yeah, yeah. I just had some cold brew. I start talking about artists. El Greco is one of those rare, I don't know, renaissance, but master painters who also sounds like a bookie a little bit. Oh, yeah. Nobody else feel me on that? Well, it's cool.

All right. He sounds like a mob boss. It's my last episode. Hashtag El Greco. Hashtag El Greco. Hashtag bookie. Hashtag canceled. So, yeah, I was an art history major, so I like to sprinkle in. So, uh, so, uh, yeah, like I,

I don't, I was an art history major, so I like to sprinkle in, uh, Oh, you were. Yeah. Yeah.

But I didn't, I was a sports gambling major, so yeah, I did that. I didn't go to class or anything. So I'm always like looking at paintings and being like, is that, is that,

uh, um, El Greco or, uh, Hmm. Yeah. It could be El Greco or probably Rembrandt. Or it could be freaking...

No way to know. Could be Pollock, Jackson. They're all very similar. It's impossible to tell them apart. I mean, what? El Greco and Rembrandt overlapped, but not Pollock. Come on now, Chris. Holy shit.

I'm just saying. Are you flexing on us with, Chris. Holy shit. Miles. I'm just saying. Flexing on us with the knowledge. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. Yeah, Chris, Miles has changed. I can read your expression. I figured your whole shit out, Chris. Holy God. So this is like a serious

podcast now. Okay, I don't know. Okay, this is one of those serious oh fuck oh fuck so you guys have to guide me along because i like have been like completely i got back from new york i was in new york doing a play acting in a play oh wow i was gone for six weeks and i came back to just like i don't know if it's depression from like from COVID I had when I was in New York or whether it's from just like being you know bopping around New York City and then coming back to like this living situation that I'm not crazy about but yeah I'm sort of spaced out like I'm not I'm not sure if it's long COVID kind of stuff, but I definitely feel like I had COVID like a month ago now.

Right. And I feel like, I feel a little odd. Yeah. I don't know. So I'm a little bit spaced out. So, you know, if I, if I, or if I just talk about depressing shit today, if I'm just like, you know, sorry, I'm just trying to like, I'm trying to get. Everybody's got to work through their shit you know i can't quite you know what i mean i can't quite i can't quite feel normal i'm trying

to figure out how but you know i can't get the joy from you know i'm drinking as much cold brew as i can i'm watching as much abandoned mind videos as i can and i still can't seem to get back to my usual level of you know just like barely hanging on. Now I'm like, usually I'm hanging on with like, you know, three fingers and now I'm hanging on with two. Ooh, I definitely felt that like, maybe that's a little, maybe that's an overstatement, but you know, but I'm hanging on. I'm not feeling, yeah, it feels a little bit different. I can, I definitely hear that. I mean, I feel like other people who've experienced like a similar thing where they were sort of confused. I'm like, I don't know if I'm like just have a general malaise or if i have long covid is something

i've well right what a time to sort through symptoms you know what i mean like well how could you tell like i mean you could have i can have a lot of ailments but i mean like it could all be just reading the news like you don't know what i mean it's like i don't know i either have long covid or i read the news or I'm clinically depressed or I'm just a realist. I mean, how do you, you know, or else I have too much clutter behind me in this Zoom video. Like, what could it, who knows what it is? It's hard to pinpoint. I like a nice little seamless blend of depression, anxiety, and stomach issues.

That's always good. Yeah. is my stomach fucked up or is that because because of mitch mcconnell is it causing is my stomach causing it or my brain or my brain causing my stomach should i put two cold brews in that fucking beer funnel i've drank as much cold brew as i possibly can today and i still feel like shit. And I still feel so anxious and uneaten. I've eaten so much candy, too. Oh, man. I'm not doing anything to settle my stomach. I mean, you've taken

all my suggestions. Drink as much cold brew as your body can possibly contain, and candy. Family-sized bags of kittles. Well, that's the thing, is also, I have a 1950s idea of what health and wellness is. Like it's like I went bowling.

I still feel horrible. I exercised. I went bowling. I went bowling and smoked a bunch of cigarettes and I still feel like shit. Did the hula hoop for 15 minutes. I ate a huge hamburger with green peppers in it. I don't know, Doc. Something's not right.

I bought a Plymouth and I bought a new Plymouth and everything. I drank nine Rheingolds. I worked on the car. What the fuck? I feel like absolute shit. I'm wearing my strappy undershirt. That's what the doctor's about to ask. Are you wearing

the strappy undershirt? Look right here. It's on my way in. Oh my ask. Are you wearing the strap? Look right here. Look right here. It's on my way in. Oh, my God. And you're smoky enough. You're smoking just. I don't know what to tell you except for maybe just.

I don't know. Have a couple more beers and go play more pool. Yeah. Hang out some more men. Have a few slits. Are you gambling enough? That's the question. Right.

All right, Chris, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple stories that we're not going to get to today. We're not going to get to Joe Manchin. I don't know. Maybe we'll get to one of these. Joe Manchin. Some shit went down on Wednesday in D.C. A little Schumer gamesmanship.

And possibly like a third of a step forward for, you know, progressive values. So we'll do the math. We'll show our work for what happened in D.C. Maybe that, maybe more, probably not. Probably not even that. Maybe that, maybe more, probably not, probably not even that. But before we get to any of it, Chris, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Well, I mean, this is like, I wish I could return to the heady days of telling people about things they don't know about.

But I think it's really just, it's just been abandoned mind videos. Like I've really, I've really become, I've got a problem with them. I watch them like they're, I don't know, the news. I watch them like they're HBO Max. I watch abandoned mine videos. I'm looking for new episodes. I go into a mine with one of these explorers, and I'm like, I've already seen this mine. Other explorer, because it's the same syndrome as any video blog. with one of these explorers and i'm like i've already seen this mine oh other explorer because

it's the same syndrome as any video blog it's like there's only so many minds and there's right so many poor people trying to make money off youtube that there's like you know traffic jams of people like waiting to look at the the old glove oh so you're saying like the minds are now becoming like packed with other mind seekers you have to wait in line to say the same thing about the same glove right right right it's like a glove is like i think i mean i've been through this before but i can't stop going through it because this is my life i don't know why i think everybody else should also endure hearing about these things because I can't stop. I love hearing.

What is the blow? I actually forgot already. Well, there's no, of course you did. This is all your course. None of this stuff. You don't care about none of this is important.

None of this is important. And every person is their own industry and doesn't need to worry about anybody else. So that's right. That's, that's one of my things. I'm, I'm actually in the business of the Jack O'Brien brand. And I am too.

And I don't know what you're saying either. So, I mean, that's like. We just agree with each other. No, it's incredible. We're continuously making our own points. Ships passing in the night on the way to Patreon. That's how I describe it. Like modern economy.

No one needs anybody. They just need viewers who they don't know. Hey, guys. Do cave videos open with people going, hey, guys. Yeah. Who's that guy who streams all day long every day that has so many people?

He's like, not my landlord's son. His name is Miles Gray? Not my landlord's son and not us, but the guy who's like a liberal guy who like watches he's like on all day long his name is hasan yeah that's it hasan piker yes yeah yeah like i mean okay that guy's making money but what kind of life is that anyway that's what i'm just thinking i mean the guy has to stand there people got mad at him when he bought a house because i

mean that's when you want a regular job like when you there's a certain point where a therapist is probably like you should get a regular job son right yeah like you are going crazy like you have no friends your friends with a microphone and you and you and you you know it's like you're doing great business sounds like you're talking straight to me right now i'm talking to myself too miles my friend is a microphone therapist just gives me notes on the show it's like maybe i don't know have you thought about like moving the overrated underrated to the end oh my god right exactly do you feel like it's eating up too much in the first act i'm like what also my therapist was like stop saying i'm saying stuff on the show that i don't say to you right what yeah so you're not proud of me she's like i didn't exactly say it in those words i said as if therapists like i always imagine therapists are doing some important

shit like they check out my podcast or whatever i'm like you probably heard my podcast as you probably heard this week i'm not yes i know what is podcast exactly they're like podcast is yeah so i've been watching these abandoned mine videos so there's only a few you know i've been watching for quite a while there's only a few things that can be found in an abandoned mine chris how do we like is there an abandoned mine you want to go to to see with your own eyes because oh yeah this is like remind i want to go to every one of them okay but what's a mine you really want to check out and started looking into it i mean they're all over the place okay let's name we'll fire one off man maybe we can we can figure out a way to make this shit happen well a lot of times

is it gonna be like a make a wish thing or i could go by myself i don't know look you may have to lie to a couple charitable organizations but look how about you might have to go with john cena unfortunately yeah this guy says he has long covet and he wants to go to a mine they're like oh i mean what is that gonna cost honestly like i don't know like maybe 200 bucks sure all this guy wants he just wants some trail mixes of cold brew yeah and some lamp wait but yeah like is there a mine i mean are there mines where you're like oh shit it's this mine i'm maybe they have a new angle on an x specific mine i'm just curious where like you know because you want so much if there's one they name the mines different they use fake names because they don't don't want too much traffic so they name them their own thing they'll be like the jackknife mine but it's like it's not really called the jackknife mine but then i found this

i found i found a i found a i found a a youtube mining couple but they're not like i think they're platonic and i'm like i'm on the verge of writing fan fiction about them yeah i but they're not like, I think they're platonic. And I'm like, I'm on the verge of writing fan fiction about them. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's Tom and Julie and I hope they get a lot of visitors. They're called Tom and it's called mine exploring with Tom and Julie.

And it is, it's fantastic. Cause it's low key. It's low key. They, they know what they're doing, but they kind of have a vibe. Like they're just in their street clothes. Cause some people go in and they look like they're like a SWAT team

right you know but but these people look like they're wearing too much equipment and also it makes me think I could do it you know what I mean right like they kind of go in there in a way where they're like we don't know what's about to happen if it's dangerous like they they'll they'll walk out you know but the other explorers are like tom and julie are dangerous they're making people think that they can do this oh i'm sure you know i'm sure but there's a whole bunch of different personalities about the abandoned mines there's like the same way as anybody approaches any kind of sport or i guess it's not really right but right i don't know if finding a sport i don't know if you need to call it a sport when it's just finding people's old

cigarettes but uh pointing at trash videos what's that look at that that's trash that's old trash though yes yes it's like let's carbon date that i knew it 1972 perfect i'm i'm really into numismatics let me look at this coin 1983 that's a mcdonald's box box but that's the older font i mean that's the world i but that's the older font. I mean, that's the world I'm in. Is there a similar subgenre of people digging through trash, like landfills? Yeah, that's called surviving in many other countries. Yeah, yeah. Well, mudlarking originally was also survival related.

But it's old trash. I'm curious about people doing it with new trash to like study what they find people like it's got new trash new trash like how recent like just going to like a landfill digging like straight down this is something a arizona professor used to do and he was like honestly it's the only way to on like to get the truth about how people behave is by digging through their trash and he was like so for instance people smoke way more than they self-report in those things and they drink way more than they report self-report in any like any statistic that is given that is like cited is underestimating like

how much people drink and smoke by like three three acts basically but yeah there's that there isn't yeah i mean it's how we know anything about ancient cultures wow that makes sense looking at their trash so somebody was like yeah we should just do this but then he like never caught on and i've always been like that should be like it's a whole like branch of academia but like nobody's like doing it i'm hoping like maybe somebody on youtube will start it up okay let me look i'm trying to look now if i were on my show i would say cold brew got me like i would play the sound effect after what you just said it's kind of how i feel like there's not enough there's not enough academia about trash trash digging yes modern archaeology like come on i'm so tired of academia fucking up oh man now you got my catchphrase going uh so yeah that reminds me of like underreporting like

that's like you can't throw away porn in the regular garbage like it's like you can't right you know when you're growing up when you're growing up like you know you can't the reason why people threw all their pornography on people's lawns and the reason why you know kids found porn all the time in the 70s and 80s on the street was because men wouldn't you know they couldn't dispose of it in their own house right so like they were under reporting in their own way how much porn there was yeah so that's like you know like when the sorry when the archaeologists go you know digging down they're gonna be like oh there are a lot more magazines being leaked out on the streets. So we are underreporting how much porn George had. If you've ever had a drinking problem,

you start to have a good idea of like, why are there all these alcohol bottles all over the place? Same deal. You don't want anybody seeing it in the trash. So people just throw it out of their car. Yeah. So it took me a long time to figure that out. And this is one of my favorite stories. So who knows?

Maybe every time. That's the other thing. This sort of weird depression I have is making me second guess and think everything I'm saying is something I've said before, which is, I don't know if that's... That's sort of an aspect of depression. It's like indecision and things like that.

You go to the store and you stare at the shelves. I think also a part and parcel of talking talking a lot for like what you do too like there's constant times like yeah but this story i still love so i mean it's still worth telling but the reason i found out that people threw their shit out the window because i always was like jesus wants us to have porn like i didn't know why there was like magazines on the streets they feel like yeah this is a gift from god like it's a teenager from heaven a picture of a naked person is like a you know it's like gold or something so like i mean a naked yeah you find a naked you find a porn magazine when you're 11 or 12 i mean that's like finding you know yeah you know that's like

jesus came and gave it to you it's like a stimulus check yeah that's like a stimulus definition of a stimulus check um so a stimulus check so uh so yeah so i was working with this i was working with this fuck this kid and he was like do you want my porn movies like i have all these porn movies and like i'm done going out with them or whatever you know what i mean like i've already dated each one for a while we're breaking up like yeah i need new yeah you know what i mean so like i'm tired of these porn movies because i already know how they go i know how they end yeah yeah yeah so it's like i gotta get new ones so so he he was like you want my old ones and i was like you know i was you know i wasn't doing i was fairly desperate at that point in my life but i figured i could get my own porn so i was like no I don't want you.

He was like way younger. He was like a teenager. We were both working, painting a house. And I was like, I don't want your team. No, you know, I did.

I kind of did want it. I kind of did want his porn, but I wasn't going to say it. Cause I like that. Yeah. The age difference. You're like, I can't,

I can't be out here. I'm 22 years old. I should be able to get my own porn. So, uh, so, so he, he said, I said, okay, well, I'm just going to drive around the neighborhood on my bicycle and throw them on people's lawns. And that's because he was like, I can't dispose of them any other way.

I can't put them in my own garbage. And then I was like, case cracked. I mean, that was like, I was like, oh, my God. Like, I really felt like I had to tell the whole world. I was like, I can tell you why. I know why the side streets of suburbia are littered with gag balls. Right. Yeah, exactly.

Stuff people are ashamed to have in their own garbage. And then the archaeologists are going to go down eventually and they're going to be like, you know what? There are a lot more gag balls than we thought. Yeah. People were gagging. Oh, yeah. We thought it was one per household. Turns out it was like eight.

Yeah. Their estimate, their conservative estimate before was one gag ball per household. Boy, were they wrong. So breaking 2090, whatever. No, probably 30. Anyway, I wanted to say just that back to the garbage thing real quick that people do dig down through the garbage sometimes. And one thing I heard was that hot dogs from the 1950s are still intact oh fuck yeah i love to hear that because one thing preservatives yeah one thing the guy the you know archaeologist who did this said

is that you dig down and it's like a layer cake with every time they send out the yellow pages because everybody just immediately throws them away and so there's they send out the yellow pages because everybody just immediately throws them away and so there's just a layer of yellow pages separating like that's when they were sent out yeah that's when they were sent out and immediately thrown away by everyone i used to i used to steal them like when i lived in this apartment in college because i was practicing tearing phone books in half so for a while i was yo tearing phone books in half. So for a while I was, yo, bring phone books over. And I would just be like,

I was just teaching all my friends how to tear phone books in half. It was a really weird time for me. Look, the economy was in a fucking absolute spiral. And I was like, look, I have a college degree and no job prospects, but I will preach the gospel of how to use a cool technique

to rip a phone book in half and win free drinks at a bar where did you where did you find out how to do that youtube hey man it's like one of the first things i looked like this like oh seven you know like early youtube i was like how to tear phone book and i forgot you had the internet yeah first thing you ever googled yeah i was like oh fuck it let's goled. Yeah, I was like, oh, fuck it. Let's go. Because I always heard it was like a technique thing. It had nothing to do with strength.

So once then I saw the technique videos, I was like, oh, y'all are fucked. Watch me start tearing phone books left and right, putting people to sleep over your naked chokeholds. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll continue talking about mind videos probably for a while we're not getting to any stories so people just know right now this is gonna be who knows hey you never know it's impossible to stranger things we'll be right back i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.

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is that what you asked about the gloves, like there's only a few things you can find in an abandoned mine gloves it's miners whatever miners brought to mines because these are that's what they are they're mines that have been not used in a while turns out usually the last time they were used was at the latest like the 60s and you know but a lot of times they're earlier than that but still even in the 60s it was basically gloves lunch boxes you know i mean you're only going to find a few things you know that i mean there's only there's no but no minor is going to bring in like a violin right you're not going to find some you find tuna cans you find uh cigarette packs you know things like that and then the people find the cigarette And they say look at the cigarette this guy

Imagine who smoked this cigarette I love that shit I love imagining who smoked the cigarette That's my favorite fucking thing to do is to imagine Who smoked the cigarette You pause the video and you just go There's something about that I never get Enough of it they're like imagine who wore this glove

Imagine what kind of crazy facial hair The guy who wore this glove must have had in 1910 we're the first person to hold this glove since that that guy and i'm all that's all i care about is that feeling of like my god wow that's you have a weird version of that power that christopher walken has in that movie dead Zone where he shakes someone's hand and sees their whole life story. Oh my God. Looking at a spent cigarette butt. You just made a good movie.

That's a good idea. Shut the fuck up. That's what these mind video guys are dreaming of because they hold a cigarette and they wish they could see and hear the conversation, which they imagined to be salty when it was happening you know i mean the guy who smoked that cigarette was probably saying like i'm tired of being in the navy you know or something like that they imagine you know back then it's like talking about dames or something i can probably

say right swearing they could be a movie star if they could get out of this place. It just all comes back to Piano Man lyrics. Do you think they're ever going to really make a nuclear bomb? That kind of stuff. He talks a big game. I hear they're working on it in Los Alamos. That's what they imagine. This comedy script is about Chris being like being it's you and you love abandoned mine videos and the the story is about you taking a trip to one of these mines but

little do you know it's a magic mine and you end up picking up one of these items and you immediately flash into that person's life like it's now you in a mine when it's operating and you're like trying to make sense you're like trying to make sense you're like whoa oh just a fish out of water you know how happy you'd be though part of this is fantasizing about the past in the sense that they want a simpler past they're like simpler life i could just fucking go in here with a drill probably half drunk right i can make my make make maybe uh you know more than my beer money for the day. Oh, yeah. Right.

And then go to sleep on some cot wearing some greasy overalls and then do it again. Yeah. And then live out my days that way, smoking stubby cigarettes and talking about the Navy. And then nobody ever has to go on the internet and nobody ever has to have an insurrection. And there's no goddamn, you know, Republicans haven't gone full QAnon and everybody's just acting like you know but it's all bullshit because back then sucked too yeah yeah and that's your realization yeah like it would be so much simpler and people down there talking about like wait a minute this miner's cabin's full of racists yeah exactly like and they were all murdered by their boss and nobody even my God. And nobody even looked into it. My bunk mates just masturbating out in the open.

Smitty. Please. Smitty. Smitty. Couldn't you at least put a frying pan over that? Yeah. I told you, only bring only three of your erotic wood carvings into the bunk at a time. For God's sake.

I thought we agreed that we would all masturbate inside the soup pot. Yeah. With the soup pot on top of our crotches, on top of the bunk. And yeah, this is your life of chaos in this mining bunk. Yeah, you think it's like a simpler life, but it's like way, way worse. And then you're like,

get me back to the internet! To 2022! Yeah, yeah. That sounds good. But anyway, yes, there's like lines of people trying to look at a glove. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated? I had it written down.

Oh, underrated is my book. Yeah. The Advice King Anthology. Hell yeah. I mean, for real, because this book came out and nothing happened. And that was sort of stunning for me.

I thought so. Like, I thought today during the underrated, I would say like, hey, Terry Gross, I know you listen to this show. Right. Get me on there. Right. And let me explain my book to you. And let me also explain that you're part of the problem. And that NPR is easy listening for the 1%.

Yes. Let me tell you all about that. So I know that's not going to work. And if you're just joining us, we're talking to Chris Crofton. And he is the author of Advice King. The Advice King Anthology. The Advice King Anthology. Yeah.

So anyway, I think that book is underrated. And I now have just found out. The Advice King Anthology Yeah, so anyway I think that book is underrated And I now, I've just found out And you guys, same shit Everybody knows, it's like everything's do-it-yourself Like, uh There's no budget for anything Because the budget goes to the CEO

I don't know who the CEO of Vanderbilt is But the actual Vanderbilt press Is understaffed and underpaid. Even though they have an $8 billion endowment. That's where all the money is, is in university endowments. They're hoarding it in case of a rainy day or in case they need to take over a country. I'm not sure it's so much money that they have yeah it's raining

yeah the rainy day is now yeah uh so yeah so i just uh i just i love now i gotta say something nice because i love the fact that they put out my book they did they put out my book but i know it's not their fault they told me ahead of time there's not gonna be you know we don't have a budget to do much so i'm on my own with book, which is okay because I've been done this before, but sometimes you wish someone would review a book. Right. But I also talked to a dude who wrote, who's written eight books. And I talked to him and he writes for the New York times. And I said to him, Hey, my book came out and it didn't get reviewed anywhere. And he got like, he got, he started looking off into the middle distance. He got returned to funny

color. And he said, I've written eight books and none of them have gotten reviewed. And I write for the New York Times. Right, right, right. And he explained to me that rich people don't like to read about books they like to read about food so all the newspapers in the world have expanded their food sections and gotten rid of their book sections so there's no the reason why books have blurbs on them from other authors and things and friends now is because where it used to have been like atlanta journal constitution like they don't those newspapers those newspapers flat out don't and Friends now is because where it used to have been like Atlanta Journal Constitution. Oh, interesting. Those newspapers flat out don't review books anymore.

So there's just very few places to get it reviewed. There's the usual suspects. There's like NPR or I mean, not NPR, but there's like New York Times occasionally. I mean, it's just like stand-up comedy. It's like Conan has stand-ups on every other week now. It's just like standup comedy. It's like, you know, Oh, Conan has standups on every other week now. Or, you know, it's just like, there's very few, they want to go with celebrities always, always. So it's like the books that they will go with to review. If there are reviews will always be, you know, I don't know, whoever, like Mario Lopez is, you know, my journey to abs or whatever the hell yeah but if you could get your book

into mario lopez's book club that is the way to do it because that no i'm just joking well no what's sad is that they will be like they being the people who are trying to promote books will be like do you know anybody famous that's the model i mean that is the model find someone famous and put it on their instagram right you know do you know anybody famous and have them put it on their Instagram. Do you know anybody famous? And I'm like, I know Jack O'Brien. I know Miles Gray. They're like, ooh, someone that won't harm you if you align with them publicly. If you admit to knowing them. I know a couple of competitive weightlifters.

Okay, great. I know. You know the guy who played the mountain? No, he's really neat. That's not a model that's sustainable for art. you know the guy who played the mountain he really needs that's not a model that's sustainable for art you can't good artists aren't going to know celebrities

not very much I mean like if you go to LA you can move to LA and know some celebrities I'm not saying that we're all shitty artists if we know a celebrity but because you know if you live in Los Angeles you could get to know them because they're everywhere you know i mean me and colin colin farrell's in my other room right now mario lopez book club yeah him and mario lopez are in there and he won't even review my fucking book no and they won't review and they won't share it on their instagram

because they say they got to save that for big stuff or something like that so you know like yeah they like i gotta save that for like my girlfriend's girlfriend's putting out a you know something or other right so uh my girlfriend makes pots so uh i gotta put up on instagram i can't i can't oh i can't saturate my you know what i mean it's like you know even if you do know a famous person they're they're guaranteed to be just as paranoid about you as you're about their social media presence so they're not gonna share that shit yeah anyway so that's what's going on it's like i'm just like trying to get i figure it'd be fun about their social media presence. So they're not going to share that shit. Yeah. Anyway, so that's what's going on.

It's like, I'm just like trying to get, I figured it'd be fun to do an underrated where I said, hey, and this is really a fact, this book fucking rules. And it is so funny. And I mean, the people who do read it will have a better life. Yeah, 100%. So, so,

and they're making 20% more at their jobs too. I think I read something like that. Yes. And they're taller slightly. Right. Wow. Yes. And they sexually last longer.

So all I'm saying is if anyone listening to this fucking podcast wants to help out because I'm going to be peddling this book now forever and I will because it's good. So I don't give a shit. I'm like Hunter S. Thompson, except if Hunter S. Thompson was just told to do it on his own. Right. Like, oh, you got a good book. Good. Go on Instagram with it. Hunter Thompson. Boomers. These fucking boomers had it so easy. Oh, yeah. I mean, they didn didn't really I know that some boomer will be like It was always hard Yeah they're lying But you know Hunter S. Thompson didn't have to sell his

God damn book on fucking Instagram No he didn't But hey Zeitgang get in there I'm only seeing one review The Zeitgang has helped me out a lot So let's get the review I want a review in either the New York Times. I know one of you is a book reviewer

for the New York Times. Popular Mechanics would be okay. Yeah, okay. Field and Stream. Reader's Digest. Christian Science Monitor. Yes, any of those things. But yeah, review the book.

Be the first person. Imagine being the first person to tell people about the Bible. That is's just i'm not saying my book's as good as the bible i'm just saying imagine that thrill this would be maybe similar similar book is definitely better than the bible i was gonna say the writing at least hashtag apostles when you have neil hamburger jamie loftus and jim j from My Morning Jacket all saying, you need to fucking read this book, that's a triumvirate. More potent than the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, I would say.

Thank you. So by that alone, this is the new Bible. How about that? We'll go a step further. Yeah. And also just order it. You can order it on everything. It's on Amazon.

I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit if you buy it from Amazon. I don't care. I get money from a shit. I don't give a shit if you buy it from Amazon. I don't care. You know, like I get money from that someday. I don't know how. Or just get it from, you know, Vanderbilt University Press. I just want this book.

Get it from Vanderbilt University Press, even though you got to have a good solid half hour to do that. If you want to order it from Vanderbilt University Press, you're going to need a half hour because they make you sign up. The fucking website will crash at least twice while you're on there. But so that's what I'm saying. You have to take the

SAT. I just want it in people's hands. I want it in your head. I want you to read it because it will make you feel better. And I'm almost, I can't do any more pep talks until people buy the book. I'm running out of pep talks because I'm drowning in content that I've got to move. I've got pallets of hope. It's dying on the docks. I've got pallets of hope sitting here. Come pick them up so I can get in a good mood again and give you more hope. Because my pep talks, I can't.

Writing the advice column at this point, people are like, man, I don't know what I'm supposed to do. And usually I'm like, go hiking. Or now I'm just like, you are like, man, I don't know what I'm supposed to do. And I usually I'm like, go hiking or fucking now. I'm just like, you know what? Suck eggs. I don't know. Tell me when you figure it out. Every man for himself.

I'm miserable, which is not a good advice call. You know what I mean? Buy my book and then I'll be happy again. What is something you think is overrated? Overrated health and wellness. Health and wellness, because in my opinion, they're the same thing

and they're just trying to sell an extra thing to dumb rich people. Add wellness to health. Yeah, it's rich people wanting to think there's a secret extra part of health that they get. Nah. Which is really just like a mani-pedi.

Right. Right. It's mostly just like the stress. You don't have the stress of having to toil to survive. That's also a huge part. I'm like, yeah, I don't know. I'm so healthy.

It's like, I don't, I don't have to toil either. I'm kind of just have all my needs are met. Health and wellness. Yeah. It's like health and servants. You know, there's something there's, I smell a rat. That's all I'm saying. Health and wellness.

No, fuck that. It's a wealth and wellness. Yes. Or health and wealthness. Either. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It's let's. Yes, exactly. There you go. Yes. Health, bruh. it's wealth and wellness yes or health and wealthness either yes yeah yeah it's let's yes exactly there you go health bruh as well wealth and is that what wellness generally is is just like treat yourself guys like that's sort of it's like the it's like the shitty parts of goop you know right right okay the wellness industry yeah yeah it's like um there's a there's a there's some dose of

there's something about it that's just strikes me as is just like just really shitty like somehow like i was gonna say it's tied up in eugenics i don't think that's true why not throw that claim out i'm sure you know there's some there's something there's something like right i feel like it's racist like there's certain about like it's like anybody can be healthy yeah it's like almost like anybody can be healthy but it takes a white person to be well like that's how i feel like it is some it's some like yeah oh yeah you can be healthy if you're anybody can be healthy but are you well right and that means are you fucking white i mean i don't that's extreme.

And I don't mean that everybody who says that thinks they're... I only think about race stuff because I think about... I think about it constantly only because of... It's impossible not to. You look at the people who are pushing these like, you know, we're already healthy. Let's get well. Or tend to be wealthy white people. Because it's just like, what else can...

Once you get really rich you just start to care about like extending your life and right well that and also just again like all the things that are you know touted as being like you know essentials to your wellness are typically out of reach for most working people and it's like this is who who can afford this who can afford this lifestyle you're prescribing via your wellness you know website or whatever right and i think like you know gwyneth paltrow pushing the idea that she's basically a magical person is you know is you know she's also a white lady with blonde hair i mean i think there's just a component of this like ultra health like has to

do with like gwyneth paltrow having blonde hair and translucent trying to turn like invisible she's so white like I just feel like there's like a certain amount of like stunt whiteness involved in this shit like look how fucking white and blonde I am it's just generally too like socioeconomically there are people who have different life expectancies just by virtue of like who they are where they're born into what class they're born into and then being like using that to be like and that's my secret are these fucking berries it's like no motherfucker you probably had your parent mother probably good prenatal care that's right you grew up pretty healthy and there could be a good diet growing up you have lower health complications but you want to point to the fucking whatever the fuck it is uh and say that's the cause of and solution to all i just don't i

sometimes i feel like i come off like i hate white people which is insane obviously i'm a white person but but i but i but i do feel like you know that well you know white people should police themselves a little bit on these things when they get into these like weird like aryan fucking nazi things like health and wellness sounds like a division of fucking the Nazi party. You know, it just sounds like, you know, like it's just some sort of like,

uh, there's something that strikes me really wrong about it. And then it's also just a scam to sell stuff. You know, it's just like, uh, once you get into the rich person game, all it is,

it's just life extension stuff and like panaceas and, and, and snake oil and like you know medicine show stuff where you just new moisturizers it's just an industry for people to you know once they get rich they think about only two things tax evasion and and smooth skin right and living forever you know i mean it's really there's nothing else to fucking do yeah the two things that are inevitable that you can't get away death and taxes and they're like nope fuck both of those i will evade both yeah i just feel like sometimes when people say

wellness they're about to say white right that's how it feels there's also a w yeah or it's just it's just so like sort of ignorant of the idea of what is even being said too that like even if in the most innocent version of someone talking about wellness, it's just, there's a lack of regard. Yeah, break it down. That's what I'm like. Tell me what break it down.

What does wellness mean? You know, break it down. Nobody, you know, but I don't know who I'm saying this to. Break it down. Break it down. I'm picturing myself saying this to Gwyneth Paltrow.

Yeah. Though she's listening. I would love to talk to you respectfully about these issues. Oh, I mean, you heard her. She's already coming with hot takes today. She said how children of like famous people have to work twice as hard or some shit. She was like, hang in there

Nepo kids. They are really the people who are persecuted in this country. I always said that. Oh, God. Like, because she is like, i don't i'm sure most people know that but she is the child of a famous person so and then she herself is raising children of extremely famous people so so yeah the the the other thing was just as far as the overrated would be amenities versus you know know, which is connected.

It's amenities over culture. Wealthy people don't care about music. They don't care about art. They care about music that's on in the background while they get a fucking massage. They care about music that's on in the background while they fucking do a real estate deal. Music is being affected by the amenity culture it's being it's

being forced to the background when it should be it's one of the most important heartening beautiful things in the world it's way more beautiful than real estate or way more beautiful than you know moisturizer or any of this other shit or earning skulls but it's basically free you know and that doesn't do shit for rich people. They don't know how to fucking make music. They don't know how to fucking engage with it. It makes them feel weird. They would rather have a hotel than a music venue. That's what's happening to Nashville.

Like, it's not just by accident. They value hotels more than music venues. That's why they're not staying around. It's because if we let these motherfuckers with obscene wealth or against our will let them, because you really can't combat these sort of

capital, what do you call them? Venture capital? Not venture capital, but just like you know, like consortiums or I can't think of the word right now. Or like institutional investors? Just like the big, just people, rich people who have like just these giant amounts of wealth that the top 400 people have.

They put them into these huge funds and then they make over a whole city. I'm just saying that the art is being displaced on purpose. Like it took me a while to figure that out. It's not just a side effect. It's something that rich people do not value. In fact, music spaces always have made them uncomfortable because they don't feel at home there. They don't get it. They know about something that they can't, something that dies the second they touch it.

And it makes them feel uncomfortable. They don't know because they do not, they're programmed for, whether by nature or nurture, for capitalism only. So they just don't get it. And it makes them mad when they see people really enjoy music because that makes them feel bad. So they want to not see that.

They want to see another thing they recognize which is a chipotle or a hotel or uh something they can use something rich person can use a service industry thing and and and america is being recolonized and this is like insane to say but it's like i mean it's not insane to say i i just want don't want to be insensitive people who are actually colonized but what I'm saying is that we came here, fucking made the Indians accept our culture or death. Like, you know, like go to Christian school and all the shit that's happening with indigenous, like the whole residential schools thing in Canada is insane. Right. I mean, absolutely insane. And it's all about like basically people coming in and saying this is our culture

you're going to take it and if you don't take it we're going to fucking throw you off a cliff and now that's happening in this weird way where it's like we're gonna we're the the top you know hundred people or no it's what 10 000 richest people in america are making over america in the image that they want and that's an image that is there it's like the fucking english going to india and making everybody learn how to do cricket these motherfuckers are replacing music venues with hotels not by accident but because they want hotels more because they recognize those and they value them almost like fucking music is fucking some language they want to stamp out and make it into just instrumental shit in the background of a TikTok video.

And TikTok videos devalue music, too. Anyway, these are all things I'm thinking about while I'm in a lousy mood. And it's all like friction. It's just making it more frictionless, right? Like they've taken out any like TikTok makes everything frictionless. And, you know, their takeover of the supreme court just makes it it's all stuff they've wanted to do and been pushing to do but like they no longer have the stops in place we no longer have the protections in place it's all deregulation

equals frictionless overpowering of the country by the wealthy like that's's always, always, always going to be the case. And did you guys hear about the, I'm sure you did. You probably already talked about it. They're trying to raise the, the Republicans are trying to raise the retirement age for pilots. Did you hear about that? No. I mean, I saw that being floated around a while back, but I didn't, I wasn't sure what

was going on with that. They're trying to raise the age for pilots. The mandatory retirement age for commercial pilots is 65, but they want to raise it to 67 because there aren't enough pilots just to take them on vacation. It's like having a draft for bartenders.

Right. And all because they don't want to raise wages. Right. They're like, well, if we can't attract people with this current thing, well, then we gotta get more out of the fucking people that are dumb enough, or not dumb enough, but are doing the job. Eventually, they're gonna lower the labor. They're gonna make it so kids can work.

That's what they dream of. Yeah, it's like, this is your pilot speaking. My name's Brett. I'm 14. This is my first flight. Child pilot's great. Towards the end of their career also people towards the end. Child pilots, great. Towards the end of their career, people towards the end of their career

and towards normal retirement age are easier to manipulate and pay less because they can't just switch paths, switch careers easily. So they're just like, yeah, no, let's keep grinding these poor bastards down. I just think it's so funny that that's their legislation. They can't pass fucking

anything, but they're like, you know what we're going to need to do? We're going to need to do a draft, like a military draft, but for caddies. Golf caddies. Have we gone to a second break yet, by the way? No. Let's do that, and then we'll come back and talk about, real briefly, a couple of stories that are happening.

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Available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And, all right, let's talk real quick. What happened in D.C. on Wednesday? Basically, Schumer. right let's talk real quick what happened in dc on wednesday basically schumer you know mitch mcconnell has been saying there there's this thing called like the chips act there's this bill to basically make more semiconductors and shit in the united states hell yeah it's not on china and will also help the automobile industry and you know relieve some supply

chain issues ultimately just to help you know the for. Right. And this was like a thing that had bipartisan support, too, because they're like, yeah, you know, it's got China in it. So it was helping, you know, conservatives and be like, yeah, OK, let's push back against all of this. And Mitch McConnell is essentially saying, look, you will not have bipartisan support for this bill if you try at all to resurrect any section of the build back better act don't even fucking think about it if you do we're gonna withhold all the support and etc etc so wednesday bipartisan support for the chips bill it passes then hours later chuck schumer and joe mansion like some wwe characters emerge from the shadows with hands like at like just holding hands being

like we've reached a deal on a bill to address climate the climate health care and some taxes and we can do it all under reconciliation so we don't need fucking 60 votes we can do it with 50 and you know what guess what you know i know everyone was really cynical, but Manchin really hates inflation. So Schumer was like, hey, why don't we call this? Why don't we spend money on all this stuff? But we can call it the Inflation Reduction Act. And, you know, this bill could even reduce the deficit by 300 billion. He's like, I'm in. God is ass. So it will help. It is. It does have a question mark at the end. the the name of the bill is inflation reduction act uh how about it maybe and it will finally help you know like lower health care costs because

medicare can now negotiate directly to set prescription drug costs this has been a fucking thing people have been talking about for ages then it will you know lower some senior out-of-pocket expenses reduce obamacare costs for people who will be seeking coverage on the exchange. And the prescription drug savings and a new tax of 15% on corporate profits will help fund the healthcare portion as well as $369 billion in climate funding. And a lot of these are coming in the form of incentives. And you're like, wait, what the fuck, Joe Manson? Huh? Not only that, like I said, Schumer playednell and everyone's sort of like this is wild you have court climate spending increased corporate taxes and health care we not so fucking fast you fucking idiot you forgot this was america all of a sudden because yes as

ed markey from massachusetts describes this as quote the most significant investment environmental justice and climate action in american history. That sounds good. But just like criminal justice reform in this country, even the slightest movement towards progress will be just by default the most significant action we've ever taken. And I'm not trying to take a full shit on this bill because there are good things in it. You know, like it's there are there are, you know, there is encouragement for more renewables and tackling emissions reductions and things like that. And they'll say it'll reduce emissions by about 40% in 2030. And analysts are like, okay, that's feasible. But what this bill really does, it gives Manchin

the fuel goods by investing more in... There was a bit of a deal. He wanted more infrastructure to be able to sell more fossil fuels, essentially to get the product to ports to be able to ship it out. And also this bill, what it really does, a lot of the emphasis is really on relying on cars. And all the experts have said repeatedly, just switching cars to electric isn't going to cut it. Like we actually need to be more efficient across the board.

Like we need more green spaces. We need better urban planning so people can walk to places or take light rail or take bikes or have better bike lanes, because those are all the things that help people create less emissions. So sounds very un-American. Just yeah, exactly. From my point of view. Get away from fucking cars? No.

So what the bill does it incentivizes consumers to just buy electric cars and when it mentions trains and light rail the purpose is to say that those industries are excluded from the funding so you know it's it's interesting because it's doing some good things while also really putting like ignoring something that a lot of climatologists and people have been saying which is like i know we all think electric car equals no emissions which is true from the car but if you think about what it takes to make the car and also power where the fucking electricity comes for your car that's where the bigger issue is because unless you're charging that shit straight off a solar panel it's pretty likely that the electricity you're

using to charge an ev is coming from burning fossil fuels so i was just reading advice they were one of the reporters there was just like you know giving like sort of a sober analysis of like what's happening like there are some good things but the car piece really wanted to bring to people's attention that, you know, how efficient an electric car actually is. And this is from vice. It says, quote, electric car owners today would generally be thrilled to get an efficiency of four miles per kilowatt hour. Uh, most get less, but if you're traveling at 65 miles per hour on the highway, that means using 16 kilowatts to travel for one hour. In that same time, a whole home air conditioner running at full tilt is using something like

four kilowatts. So driving on the highway uses at a bare minimum, as much electricity as running four air conditioners at once. But realistically, most EVs get less than four miles per kilowatt hour. And most people drive faster than 65 miles per hour on the highway. So the actual effect is probably more like five or even seven air conditioners. So we have, sure, we can go, we can talk about electric vehicles, but we really need to, you know, sincerely address the electric, the energy generation piece of it all too, because then everything is thrown out of whack. So we've taken a step forward and maybe like two thirds back.

So still forward progress. But again, it's a very American bill that many are like, it's revolutionary, but it's like, when you think of how much has to be done and how little we've done, sure it is all that to say this, this has to be built upon rather than I'm sure many people like to be like, hey, well, we did that. $369 billion, even though we were talking about a trillion dollars before this. We need to look at nuclear energy is what we need to look at. But that's a conversation for another day. I want to measure everything by air conditioners now. Yeah, right.

Like, man, I had an orgasm. other day i want to measure everything by air conditioners now yeah right like man i man i had an orgasm that thing was probably the force of like nine air conditioners nine hours of air conditioning running full blast i'll tell you what standard size american home know what i'm saying yeah you know what i'm saying oh Oh, yeah. Man, this guy gets it. Oh, wow. I took a six air conditioner shit the other day. Oh, boy. Full blast. Those things are all full blast. Get the plunger.

Get the plunger. Instead of right now when I measure everything and how much it takes to mint a Bitcoin. That's what I usually measure it in. It used to be my old way of making sense of it all. But, I mean, this is all, like all like again it's good that there is movement towards tackling this even though again it took joe mansion the way he's talking about the bill too is just like he's just dunking on joe biden's like agenda too as if right he's still like this conservative it's really weird he said quote for too long the reconciliation debate in washington

has been defined by how it can help advance democrats a political agenda called build back better build back better is dead and instead we have the opportunity to make our country stronger by bringing americans together shut the fuck up seems like the president just needs to be a like punching bag like that is the role of the american president now is that like just take it for granted everyone's gonna hate them and then you can consolidate congress against them to get things done and like just how big a stooge they are is like the like how useful they are basically that's interesting yeah because the the approval ratings have just like gone down down down down of course because the because the real power is with multinational corporations. Right. So they can't

do anything. The president is basically just set dressing to distract people, but people aren't even distracted by the president anymore. They're just like, fuck that guy. Here at BP, we say fuck Trump. Yeah. I mean, it goes back to like,

it's just depressing. But anyway, just thinking about like, you know, Network goes back to like, it's just depressing. But anyway, just thinking about like, you know, Network, the movie Network from 1970. Fuck, something. Yeah, all those movies. I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take anything anymore. Called cynical at the time. Got it exactly right. Right.

The famous speech where Ned Beatty playing essentially god telling peter finch like uh you know your your act is over we're we're canceling you because you you know you're getting too negative and you're telling too many truths and for a while you were entertaining but now you're just you know you were you know you are you're you're revealing what's behind the curtain and what's behind the curtain is that there are no nations there's just dollars there's no nations anymore there's no these nations are just these nationalism and these things are just distractions to keep people busy while the real business of running the the the world goes on at you know the g7 or the you know yeah or like any of these like big

you know fucking bilderberg group or whatever these uh these these things i believe it is yeah build a bear is that build a bear yeah okay well yeah yeah wherever they're building bears i'm you know, fucking Bilderberg group or whatever these things. I believe it is. Yeah, Bilderberg is actually where it's going to be. Okay, well, yeah, yeah. Wherever they're building bears. I'm saying keep your eye on those Bilderberg workshops, man. Yeah, and they're building bears, like bears that are going to be able to shoot guns at people. If you think Bilderberg and Bilderberg are not connected,

come on. Wake the fuck up. Now who's asleep at the wheel? You're talking to the wrong guy, Jack. Now who's asleep at the wheel? I think everything is true. But yeah, the president is just like a freaking... I mean, it's not...

He doesn't... It's really bad. It's just like we should really just say the people who are on the world are like Jeff Bezos. Stop using these middlemen and stuff and just make them the president and then everybody can be mad at them instead.

Biden didn't do anything. He didn't do anything. be mad at them instead. Biden didn't do anything. He didn't do anything. And I mean that literally. He didn't do anything. We should say that this is a piece of sponsored content that we are using to launch Jeff Bezos' 2024 presidential campaign.

We think he's going to be the man for the job. Especially if you take a just Google Jeff Bezos cowboy hat. Just Google can Amazon deliver? And so can President Bezos. I think you're right, though. Jack, I think at that point that these big businessmen who really run the world are using the President of the United States

as just like a foil to make themselves like they're the ones in charge. You know, Chuck Schumer's daughter is an Amazon lobbyist. I just found that out. That's, you know, what? What? That's so cool for her. He's a Democrat. You know, he's

got a daughter who's a lobbyist for a fucking corporation. I mean, whatever. that's all you know so yeah so it's like it's like really these guys are getting to aggrandize themselves by being like hey we could run this better than this idiot like you know but they are running it and they're not running it better they don't need they don't when you have that much wealth you have you actually have no need to be anywhere near like office because you can you can we already just talked about how much can be done by 27 billionaires spending less than one percent of the money they made during the pandemic to shift things massively you were just

talking about that like it not not in this episode no no no right yeah that's like two like two days ago yeah yeah yeah okay yeah so that you're though, the president is functioning now as a guy to make for the corporate heads to who are running shit. Look, I mean, I would say effectively Clarence Thomas is the most powerful person in the world. Oh, yeah. Then there's you know what I mean? And then it shows to like what is like how these offices operate or operate are you know based on how we perceive them or we can really choose to look at where the influence comes from and it's about the billions of dollars that are constantly being pumped into people's pockets or into yeah packs and things like because those same big business people whether they realize it or not they're they're sort of the dark money that that they generate whether it's whether they're actually

donating to clarence thomas or not ultimately the forces of big business are installing right-wing politicians because that those are the ones that serve their interests yeah so my money forever and i don't want to ever die and just poking a finger at joe joe biden you know man talk about being a president at the wrong time i mean like you just signed up to be like just like a fucking just to be shit on i mean there's no one believes i mean after trump especially no one believes the president has any well just like also the worst though the less appropriate person couldn't come at a worse time right you know like the momentum you know you can't have someone who's like hails from delaware which is we love we hey incorporate here baby because we'll we'll bend over backwards

to accommodate your business like from coming from a place like that to tackle the problem of like the wealth and influence of moneyed interest in corporations like How do you know so much about Delaware? Because that's one of the first things I was taught in government. Everything's a Delaware corporation. That you got to incorporate. Even I remember the first business class I took in college. Yeah, and you got to incorporate in Delaware or Nevada. Those are your options.

But most companies do, and all the credit card companies are in Delaware. Like, there's a reason why, you know, that's like it's like being for I don't even know what the example for California would be. But like if we said, you know, our biggest industry was weed or something like that, it'd be like being a California Democrat who's like being like, oh, no, no, no, I'm I'm against legalizing weed. It's like, what? That's not how this state works. weed it's like what that's not how this state works well you know what state where like white collar crime there's a white collar crime purge happening at all times they're like no you're good here man you just say your company's located here we're we're good you don't even have to be located here you just need to say you're from here i like that this just turned into a delaware regional man fuck delaware like imagine daily Zeitgeist every day was just like, Delaware. What are we going to do about Delaware? I don't know what Jack and Miles are doing.

They've been talking about Delaware for nine episodes. And they also have that accent that we started out talking about. I'm going to start listening to that Dax Shepard show. Dax Shepard used to talk about Delaware. By the way, I've got a friend in academia who's been digging down into the land talked about in Delaware. By the way, I got a friend in academia who's been digging down into the landfills

in Delaware. And they're using a lot more dildos than they're admitting to. There it is. Turns out in 1974, we figured about one dildo a block. No way. Four or five a household.

And if you think those are energy efficient either that or one household had like 650 000 dildos but we don't think so it's wild to think there's like this one address i know that has like hundreds of thousands of businesses like use this address in delaware to say that's they're incorporated. And it's just wild all because of the, the business friendly loopholes in the state, like name any company. It's like Amazon, Apple,

fucking Facebook, JP Morgan. Like they're all there. They all live in the same house together. Our house. Well, Chris Crofton, as always such a pleasure having you,

uh, where can people such a pleasure having you, uh, where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff. You can find me. Thank you, Miles. We,

we, you can find me at, uh, amazon.com advice, King anthology, and it's a book and, and you can get it. Yeah.

On amazon.com, which is, you know know like one of my favorite websites and um then you can also follow me on uh twitter and instagram hashtag hashtag at the crofton show and cold brew got me like the podcast which is on we're putting it up every monday now and it is a lot of fun and also like lately it's been really kind of depressing because i've been in a shitty mood but it's like the podcast where i let my real self out which means you know lately it's just like a lot of angst but it's uh cold brew got me like is the podcast and we we're not on twitch anymore we're just on all the other you know we're

on we're on being being be all the bean weasel and all the main, you know, we're on, we're on being, being, being, being we, being weasel and all the main platforms, you know, like, uh, and, uh,

pod snarfer. Yeah. Oh yeah. We're on, uh, we're on chicken, chicken house and all the main, all the main platforms,

the ones that are just household names. Yeah. And, the other thing is I wanted to say, if you guys want to get a fucking, I heart radio, Chris Cro you guys want to get a fucking iHeartRadio, Chris Crofton goes to Abandoned Mines. Thing going.

Me and Will Ferrell. There you go. Me and Will Ferrell going into an Abandoned Mine. I don't know him, but I'll know him after we go on a mine together. Yeah, exactly. Oh, that's the show. Every guest, you take into a mine and see hell yeah they will fail your oxygen

meters going off miles where can people find you what's a tweet or some work of social media you've been enjoying find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray or else can you fucking find me obviously miles and jack got Matt boosties.

Check out the latest as well. So episode episode with Jasmine Watkins. It was a really fun time. Also rate and review the daily zeitgeist. And also check me out on four 20 day fiance. If you like 90 day, some tweets that I like, let me see. Now one of it one of it's really this one this is from robbie slowick

at robbie slowick uh tweeted uh just like in parentheses starts making decent money for the first time the universe money is actually worth less now just uh i didn't always like that um and yeah that's about it. Actually. That was the one tweet that got to me. How about you, Chris? Any,

any tweet that got to you lately? Oh man. You know, so many, I, uh, I like tweets. Hell yeah.

You know what I mean? And, uh, I would say one of my favorite tweeters is, uh, God, I don't fucking know. Blair Saki. I say Blair blair sake go check out go

follow blair sake and uh and everything she tweets is good you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien charlie james tweeted uh a cab includes people who drive a dodge charger i think that's true that that is true am i uh i think that's true. Wow. That is true of my... I think that's true. I mean, it's a cop car in some place. It's already a cop car for CHP. Yeah. And overfunded.

I just heard about a cop who, like, retired at 59 and bought, like, a... This is, like, anecdotally. This is somebody who knows somebody, like, friend of a friend. Cop who retired at 59 and like bought a second like multi-million dollar home so cops have i i feel like they don't need more funding contrary to what some democratic politicians i mean look they need a living wage uh i also like this from tyler snodgrass for some reason my entire twitter feed is accounts i don't follow and they're all like shirts that go hard animals going goblin mode out of context humans humans dying maybe goblins going

animal mode memes from 12 years ago pies with threatening auras men being dogs dogs three exclamation point that's true that is. That's happening to me, too. Everything's going goblin mode all of a sudden. Everything's going goblin mode. Even goblins are going goblin mode sometimes. Usually animal mode, though. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.

We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy miles what song do we think people might enjoy uh this is an album well this is a track from an album called marshmallow by this like obscure production i don't know if it's one person or it's a team called the sweet enoughs and the album sounds like it's like really trippy instrumental music like it sounds like like hold music if you were like on an acid trip well i thought it was gonna be from my favorite genre spa music that's my favorite no this is. It's like you called hell, but hell also because all the great artists are in hell

that they make the hold music. And I don't know how you want to process how I just described that, but like I said, it's great instrumental music. The whole album is just nice texture. I know Chris was talking about music that's in the background and shit. This can be in the foreground or the background, but this is the Sweet Enoughs with Marshmello. All right. Well well the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you listen your favorite shows

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