The Daily Zeitgeist - "A Very Particular Set Of Trends" 3/2: Bluesky, Oscars Crisis Team, Zendaya, Shower Orange, Haunted Mansion

Episode Date: March 2, 2023

In this edition of "A Very Particular Set Of Trends", Jack and super producer Becca discuss Jack Dorsey's Twitter alternative 'Bluesky', more on the Oscars Crisis Team, Zendaya getting paid $1 million an episode, the 'Shower Orange' trend, and the new 'Disney's Haunted Mansion' trailer!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of I Don't Know Who You Are. I Don't Know What You Want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of trends uh that is courtesy of super producer brian uh he asked if i was still doing movies with old white men in them quotes and i think we are now yeah we're doing it and that is from taken i think most people know that one by now but yeah we were talking about how much better it would have been if every one of the movies was his daughter getting kidnapped over and over again.

Like just the most kidnappable daughter. Get it together. Anyways, I am Jack and I'm thrilled to be joined by super producer Becca Ramos. Hello, hello. What's going on? Happy Thursday. It is Women's History Month it's women women's history month 112 y'all get 112 of the year you may have one half of the population you get a 12th of the year

okay and you'll be happy with it but yeah shout out to women's history month so yeah jack dorsey has a new twitter alternative i guess he's been working on it for a while it just launched in the app store or is about to as an invite only app and it is called blue ski and you can tell me that it's supposed to be pronounced blue sky uh but you put all those letters in one word. And I'm calling that chip blue ski. He should have capitalized the S. Yes. You have to capitalize the S.

I really did read it as blue ski. And then I like saw the imagery, the TechCrunch article put with it. And it said blue sky, like they put imagery of skies. I was like, oh, yeah, I guess. Yeah, that makes sense. And that is like some shit a tech company would think is a good name for absolutely just the most annoying people like tech executives love to ask you to blue sky something and it always means a different thing

well yeah just blue sky it for me just give me the uh 30 000 foot view of it just give me the uh oh i hate that. I hate it. I don't even want the bird's eye. I want the astronaut's eye. You know what I'm saying? The International Space Station's eye on this thing. But just everything having to do with space and sky and... And big brain

thinking. You guys are suffering from amphetamine overload. Yes. I feel like all tech executives just have a spinal drip, a spinal tap of amphetamines just coursing through them at all times. But anyways, I'm all for a Twitter alternative. So yeah, hopefully it's good.

Yeah, I'm curious what it's gonna be like because i feel like obviously pre elon musk of twitter twitter already had a ton of issues from the audience and was known as like a vile you know space to begin with right like i think before elon musk became the owner of twitter we were all like yeah this is a very toxic platform. So I am curious as to how maybe in this new venture of Jack Dorsey, is he going to maybe curb some of that negativity or if it's going to just be the same thing just now it's called Blue Sky and it's not Twitter. Yeah. Probably that. Probably the latter. Although I do know that like when elon musk fired everyone it was shocking how big the teams were they were dedicated to like keeping things not toxic so it was like just a constant

battle never enough people and there's just not enough people because as we're talking about if you had enough moderators on any of these platforms, you will not be profitable. These are amazing public services that are good to have if they're properly run. They will never be properly run as long as they're for-profit institutions. They just need to be subsidized. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Anyways, a story that we talked about i think last week when it first hit the the news was that the oscars have a crisis team in place and the academy ceo says we've run so many scenarios uh came up again in our pre-show conversation and i just i'm starting to like really wonder what the scenarios are and like what

the slap combinations are absolutely because it's like is it just the idea that anybody can you know rush the stage or is it like as we were chatting is it is a b-level celebrity allowed to hit an a-level celebrity or absolutely not they will take them out with a with a fucking sniper but my my question is is one of the scenarios meryl streep slaps a b-lister like if they're being honest the answer is we just pretend that shit didn't just happen and we just move on we just play the like the orchestra starts to swell and we cut away. Yeah, we cut the cameras. Yeah, we just move away to a sponsor. It just feels excessive to me.

A whole team dedicated. And also, I was like, you already got rid of the problem in theory. You told Will Smith he can't come back. So why do you need a whole crisis team? I think they recognize that the slap is the best thing that's happened to the oscars maybe ever and so yeah it's all anybody's talking about is the these oscars come back jimmy kimmel will probably have quite a few fun jokes about the slap uh in his monologue what if it's like a more famous person slapping a less famous person? Like Brian threw out The Rock slapping Aaron Paul.

But that is, that's like The Rock is. They're both pretty famous, but in different categories. Like totally different categories, you know? And also The Rock could kill Aaron Paul. Like Aaron Paul is a tiny man. That would be like a little video game, you know? So then like, do you have to worry about that? I think they would still just be like, all right, moving along, which they kind of did in the first place.

Like, I also wonder, like, when they're rerunning that scenario from last year, like, what the fuck are you going to do different? You're going to, like, pull Will Smith off the stage or, like, stop him, I guess? Well, I wonder who is hosting this year. Do we know? Yeah, Jimmy Kimmel. Okay, Jimmy Kimmel. Yeah. I just don't imagine anything like that's going to happen with Jimmy Kimmel.

Right, right. But I mean, Chris Rock getting slapped by Will Smith. Like Chris Rock wasn't the host, was he? Yeah, he was. Oh, he was? Yeah. he was. Oh, he was? Yeah. He was the host for the whole show? Yeah.

Oh, interesting. So that's, I think, what happened. Because he was writing. And that's why there was a lot of controversy with it. Because it was just like, well, he had a whole team of people writing jokes. It wasn't just Chris Rock. And then there was people being like, well, no, Chris Rock went off script for that joke. So that was on it.

Right. Yeah. Will Smith should have done what Hollywood celebrities have done for years and just made a note of it and then ended the career of anybody involved with writing that joke. Yeah, there you go. You don't slap the other famous person. That's bad for your career. You just silently assassinate everybody

who had anything to do with it who isn't a household name oh because yeah he can't destroy chris rock's career yeah speaking of silent assassinations uh super producer brian is suggesting that the seat fillers are going to be massad and that's how that's how they're gonna deal with it just going up behind people little putting them to sleep with a chokehold um zendaya is getting 1 million an episode for euphoria and this is being treated as like wow they're really rolling out the cash truck and my response is this is not enough which i was like at first when i read the article i was like oh my god yeah incredible because of the framing but the second that you jack pointed out that like at friends's peak they were really

doing that so they were doing that for the whole cast on a show that was like you know so oh yeah and like so many episodes a season like this yeah each episode of there's only four yeah there's eight episodes there's eight episodes and each one is like a feature film it's like yeah and also she is i've only seen the first two episodes still but her performance in those first two episodes are as good as any film performance I've seen. Like she's so fucking good. I did watch all of it. And I will agree with you that she is absolutely, I mean, I am a fan.

I'm a huge fan of Zendaya's because I think she's just such an incredible actor slash everything she touches is like comes with so much poise and professionalism that it's just so incredible to watch her work. She's so clearly like very dedicated to her craft and what she does. Like the reason she even became an it girl on the scene

is because she like was so calculated that people would not take her seriously from her Disney days. But she just started showing up to events looking good as fuck. And that was like absolutely calculated with her team. She was like, I want to be known as a fashion girl. So then they start taking me seriously in other arenas.

And she did, she showed up and looks, people started booking her for modeling shoots. And I totally forgot she had a singing career. And she was just like, yeah, I don't feel like doing that anymore. And then she was like,

I want to now be a serious actor. Now that they're taking me seriously as a model. And she did the damn thing. And now she's literally one of the youngest people to ever win an emmy for producing at 25 so because that was a part of her last contract i think she's still an ep on this coming season but last season it was part of her contract to be an ep of season two and that got her the emmy for being the youngest producer and so now she's getting a million an episode and as an ep so congrats and there you But like you said, Jack, you deserve more.

I will say as somebody who tried that strategy, you know, in between cracked and starting the daily zeitgeist, I spoke to my team and I was like, I think my strategy, I just need to start showing up to events looking good as fuck. Just like become a fashion boy. And they were like, first of of all why are you calling us your team this is your parents and wife uh and we think you need help or you need to start a podcast yeah yeah yeah so then we started this podcast that was plan b uh you're listening to plan b uh but easier said than done i'll just say in terms of fashion. Just showing up and looking good in places being a strategy is... You have to have a little bit of the riz, as super producer Ana Jose calls it. That's what the kids are calling it.

She got it. Zendaya got it. I'm going to go ahead and say it. And this is, you know, mark my words. Breaking news, but Zendaya... This Zendaya kid, she's got this it thing that people talk about it that people talk about it uh my brain is melting anyway let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about shower oranges i'm jess casav, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series,

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now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And the concept of the shower orange seems to have caught on on TikTok. It has been a thing

on Reddit for a while. There was a 2015 Reddit post. You know the millennials are angry at the TikTok kids now. Yeah. Oh, you're just finding out about the shower orange? Okay. Wow.

But there was a 2015 Reddit post about how great it is to eat an orange in the shower that then became the shower orange subreddit. But basically the idea is that eating an orange in the shower is a very pleasant experience. I think it works on a few different levels. So there's the shower beer that people who drink too much are probably familiar with where you drink a cold beer in the shower and it's just

extra good. See, I've never understood that because I take really hot showers so your beers just can get warm really quickly well so this is the thing is i think it's only popular with alcoholics because i liked it because i drank so quickly that the beer never had a chance to okay see yeah yeah i drink at an astronomically slow pace if you ask any single one of my friends right so i think that was my issue there was why or why it worked out so good as it was cold and gone within a minute but also like everybody has probably experienced the like farting in the shower and it being a human rights violation uh it's a it's the worst smelling thing in the world. Oranges are some of the best smelling fruits. So it works on that level.

And then, Becca, as you were pointing out, the stickiness. No stick. No stick. I mean, you're getting... Yeah, it's just running off of you. There's probably... So my one kind of potential concern

with the shower orange is the pulp getting in the i just i don't need anything that is going to end with me rooting around in the shower drain because the shower drain is the most underratedly foul like yeah locusts of like just dirt hair just it's it's not all making its way through the drain like it's and i pray every time i'm like please please don't make me have to get in here later and then as someone who has incredibly curly hair i do at least once a month have to get in there and be like it doesn't matter that i have a little hair catcher that i clean it out every day it nut fail i got drano i got the giant jug over there no there's a i mean my wife uses a lot of hair products that i think

goop up the drain a little bit and it's uh i will i will let a drain be slow until it's like getting up to my calves and then i'm like all right we need to we need to do something here this sucks i can't see my feet because the water's cloudy and yeah uh anyways shout out to the shower orange though um just be careful where you drop those seeds and the pulp and the peels the haunted mansion trailer dropped this is just disney they had the success of the pirates of the caribbean movie and they're just like i'd argue that this isn't because of the success of the pirates of caribbean movies because they did have a haunted mansion movie way back in the day and maybe that original movie was during the height of the pirates of kirby movie that they were like okay a ride became a famous movie series maybe we could try this with the

haunted mansion because i remember the first one came out probably when i was oh it says um in 2003 in our article here so yeah i was probably in like elementary school and i remember seeing it and really enjoying it so now this is just a remake because disney's in this era of remaking almost all other content instead of making new ip they're like we got a bajillion things that we can remake so we're gonna we're gonna do it and they're modernizing yeah somebody wrote about it as a remake of the other the eddie murphy film and i was like it's a remake of the other, the Eddie Murphy film. And I was like, let's not remake because, I mean, that one just came out. Oh, it was 20 years ago.

Oh, my God. I'm so old. This looks fun, though. I really like the cast. Lakeith Stanfield brings the right vibes to it. He had that haunted house episode of Atlanta that it feels like he's kind of channeling in this yeah licky stanfield walking through a haunted house seems to be like it it could be its own genre of movie well i'm curious like the relationship of everybody because it does seem

like i mean to me watching licky stanfield in the trailer i'm like he does not seem like a father material in this like he seems like the older brother slash fun uncle vibe. It seems like they hire him as a ghost hunter. Or that. But he was like, I don't fuck with these ghosts kind of in the trailer. So. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. That's true. Bad ghost hunter. Yeah. I mean, so Owen Wilson is a priest who pays Lakeith Stanfield $2,000 to like go into the Haunted Mansion after Rosario Dawson and her family move in and seem freaked out. And then Danny DeVito just shows up to be Danny DeVito.

Yeah, it seems like a lot of fun. What a cast. I'm going to watch it. And it's made by the filmmaker who made Dear White People. Oh, then it's going to be a blast. I really loved dear white people yeah justin simeon so i think it'll be fun it's definitely gonna be a lot more light-hearted i feel like the original one was actually kind of dark for like a movie yeah a little bit i never

it was like because like the story from it was like the wife like eddie murphy's wife was reminiscent of one of the women ghosts in the house and so it was like this weird like she's trying to find out if she's related to this ghost and like she is and there's like this prophecy kind of tell me if i'm wrong y'all because like this is just like me pulling it from my memory watching it 20 years ago in theaters but it was just like this vibe where they like move in and then there's like this weird connection in the house between the family and the house and then they realize that like his wife is like a reincarnation of this ghost that's in the house and that's why it's like haunting them or whatever and like they're all kind of like discovering what's going on and like

whereas like this one feels more like a, like a clue vibe where it's like people are coming in and they're like, like, or Scooby-Doo more than clue. Yeah. Like a Scooby-Doo where the ghosts are a little more scary than I remember them in the original. Cause CGI is just better today.

But yeah, the original one I think was a little bit more of a drama in terms of the storyline. So, yeah. So anyways, interesting. That's more of a drama in terms of the storyline. Yeah. So anyways, interesting. That's our trailer watch for the day. Becca, where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?

You can find and follow me at Bex Ramos, B-E-C-C-S Ramos, on all platforms at OutMilk Mundos in Bushwick every other weekend. Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, that is going to do it for us. Back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves.

Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we'll talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. Bye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.

And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume

women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadson.

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