The Daily Zeitgeist - A Worm Done Et Muh Brain, More Like Pop FART Movie 05.09.24

Episode Date: May 9, 2024

In episode 1673, Jack and Miles are joined by stand-up comedian behind the comedy special Bitch, Grow Up!, Marcella Arguello, to discuss… Biden Administration “Concerned” And Pauses A Shipment O...f Bombs, RFK Jr Claims That A Worm Ate Part Of His Brain, Jerry Seinfeld’s January 6th Parody Is Weirding Everybody Out and more! Biden Administration “Concerned” And Pauses A Shipment Of Bombs US paused weapons shipment to Israel amid concern over Rafah, senior US official says RFK Jr Claims That A Worm Ate Part Of His Brain R.F.K. Jr. Says Doctors Found a Dead Worm in His Brain Jerry Seinfeld’s January 6th Parody Is Weirding Everybody Out Jerry Seinfeld's Unfrosted Takes Top Spot in Netflix Movie Charts Hugh Grant Storms the Kellogg Capitol As Tony the Tiger in ’Unfrosted’s Bizarre Jan. 6th Parody Seinfeld’s Netflix Pop-Tart movie Unfrosted embarrasses everyone Jerry Seinfeld’s Pop-Tarts Movie ‘Unfrosted’ Is as Bad as You’d Expect ‘Unfrosted’ Writer Unpacks the Pop-Tart Movie’s Buzziest Moments — Including That TV Reunion Cereal Killers: How 80-Hour Weeks and a Caste System Pushed Kellogg’s Workers to Strike Jerry Seinfeld Jokes About Potential for a Kellogg’s Lawsuit: ‘I Want to Be on the Stand on Pop-Tart Charges’ Jerry Seinfeld Brings Back Classic ‘Seinfeld’ Characters, Takes Jab at ‘Friends’ in Promo for His Pop-Tarts Movie The Unfrosted Truth About Jerry Seinfeld’s Pop-Tart Movie LISTEN: Shook Ones, Part II by OMASee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 anyways yeah i've been watching these fucking dogs so i'm tired it's like worse than babies up in the middle of the night yeah i think babies are actually easier wait the dogs are that way well because babies don't have to go outside to go to the bathroom if they don't have to go outside to go to the bathroom and also like oh yeah they wear a diaper yeah i mean oh my god yeah these Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot. I just saw Justin get the idea that having a baby is easier than having a dog. Like, the look on your face. You're like, oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:33 I just feel so bad. I don't know what the fuck you guys are complaining about all the time. Anytime someone brings up a baby, I'm like, oh, yeah, you know, my dog. And I feel bad for equating it. I'm like, it's way different. I'm sure it's just so much harder. Yeah, it's so much harder. And then anytime I bring it up, someone brings me and it's like, actually, you know, it's kind of similar. It's super similar. I was like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:00:57 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti.
Starting point is 00:01:29 And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking
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Starting point is 00:01:55 your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
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Starting point is 00:02:19 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 337, episode 4 of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist, a tedious production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it is Thursday, May 9th, 2024. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That means it's National Alphabet Magnet Day. It's National Sleepover Day. Oh, and look, it's National Moscato Day. Shout out to everybody who can sip a Moscato on a Wednesday or Thursday. National Butterscotch Brownie Day, too. Oh, and National Lost Sock Memorial Day.
Starting point is 00:03:09 I just had that. 90% of the socks that I've ever had, you know? Yeah. That's how it is at the end. I only have one of them, you know? Yeah. It is what it is. The other thing is, too, if I wash it with sheets, like a fitted sheet,
Starting point is 00:03:23 the other day I found a loose sock in the sheet after I unfolded it. So, you know, it's a good place to look sometimes for that lost one. I think they get like ingested into, like I think the washing machine like sucks them up with the water sometimes. That's my conspiracy theory. I haven't looked into it. You sound like a fucking idiot. Why would you say that? You sound like such a fucking idiot right now.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Why would you say that, bro? How? Where does it go? This is embarrassing, dog. Get out of here. This motherfucker talking about a washing machine ingested a sock. Ingesting socks? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:56 You sound like somebody who watches too many cartoons. What are you talking about? I think he eats it for breakfast and it's like their food, Marcella. Yeah. I bet you think that. I bet that you think that. One of your listeners is mad right now. He doesn't really think that.
Starting point is 00:04:12 I hate when she's on. You don't know Marcella. Yeah. I hate when she's on. It's so mean. Meanwhile, Jack has a fucking boner every time I make fun of him. It's a visible boner. It pops into the frame of the Zoom.
Starting point is 00:04:26 It's embarrassing. I think you grew up in an abusive household, y'all. I'm doing him a favor, okay, listeners? Yeah, we see Marcella's phone lighten up. She goes, oh, got another Zelle payment from Jack. Okay, yeah. Every time. Y'all don't even know how much you enjoy that shit.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Yes, thank you. Thank you, Queen Man. I remember when I was first on, this motherfucker wouldn't even look me in the eye. Well, yeah. I've had problems with eye contact throughout my life. Yeah, I know. It was just always cracking me up.
Starting point is 00:04:56 It's kind of how it started in my heart. I can't get this photo to look at me. How do I even look at me? And I started abusing you. And you loved it. That's so funny because I remember when Jack first hit me up when I was at my other gig and he was like, Hey man,
Starting point is 00:05:08 would you want to go podcasting? I remember we, we grabbed lunch like near La Brea or something. And the whole time I remember I hit up her majesty cause she used to work with you. And I was like, Hey, I don't know if this was for real.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Like he didn't look me in my eye or nothing the whole time. That could have just been a fever dream, but no, here we are. You should just be wearing sunglasses, bro, at all times. And then people just think you're mysterious and cool. That's how you do it. Poker face.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Poker face. That's what it is. It's actually, I do it on purpose because I've got so much to hide. Okay, R. Kelly, relax. Oh, shit. My name is Jack O'brien aka rome sex and eagles roman empire rules rome sex and eagles my favorite bird my favorite feels rome sex and eagles because i am a man rome sex and eagles the only three things that make me feel manly and it is courtesy of blinky heck on the discord in reference to the work i am putting in trying to make myself like the Roman Empire, eagles, and think about sex more because I'm told that that's what, that's all men. That's how men are, you know?
Starting point is 00:06:33 Got to. That's tight. That's sick. That's sick. I got to live up to the toxic masculinity standards set for me by morning zoo radio DJs. So that's what I'm working on. Come in with your eagle story. Yeah, eagles. Every guy's favorite bird is eagles. Marcella, you didn't know? I didn't.
Starting point is 00:06:53 I didn't know that. I didn't know that either. I'm innocent. Yeah, I feel like. Innocent, dumb woman. I don't know anything about what's going on in your brain. I don't know about birds. Well, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always,
Starting point is 00:07:02 by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Yes, it's the Lord of Lancashire. I'm coming live from the nation's capital, about to go throw up two middle fingers at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Where's your boy, Miles Gray? I wish I had another AK, but I've been up so early and traveling, and I just got here, and I set up, and here we go. I'm ready. I'm ready, and I'm glad. Eastern Standard time.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Yeah. Where the fuck are you? I'm in D.C. right now visiting my in-laws so I can show them the baby more. Aw, that's so cute. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just, but it's, man, waking up, I'm like at that phase now I realize
Starting point is 00:07:40 you wake a baby up like in the middle of their sleep and they're fucking you up with like their anger pretty much. They're so mad at you. As they should. Yeah, absolutely. And I'm like now I'm like, fuck, man, I should have just spent that extra like 60 bucks to take like the flight that was two hours later. Right. But yeah, whatever.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Hey, just paying my tuition to the school of experience, as they say. I have this really hilarious picture of one of my nephews when he was, um, wasn't a toddler. He was just under that. So I don't know. One and a half, I think he was, and he was sleeping. And my sister was like,
Starting point is 00:08:11 Oh, can you get Danny? You know, so we can put, you know, put them cause we were going somewhere and I had to wake him up and he gave me this dirty ass, dirty ass look.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Like didn't cry, but he gave me his dirty ass look and put it, put his thumb in his mouth. And then I was like, Oh, I'm sorry, Danny. I didn't mean to wake you up. And then I, i you know i'm holding him so i can't see his face
Starting point is 00:08:27 and i put him in the car seat and he's still mean mugging me and i have a picture because he didn't stop i had this hilarious picture of this motherfucker mean mugging me it's one of my favorite pictures of him i need to get it that's awesome i get it yeah mean mugging baby said did they're hilarious yeah well he's communicate yeah 100 absolutely no no filter anyway who's Yeah, meat mugging babies. They scare the fuck out of you. Babies communicate. Yeah, 100%. Absolutely no filter. Anyway, who's that? Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our favorite guests.
Starting point is 00:08:54 One of your favorite guests, a writer, actor, one of the funniest stand-up comedians doing it. She has an incredible stand-up special called Bitch Grow Up that you must go watch on Max. You can see her on May 31st in Chicago. It's the hilarious, the talented, Marcella Arguello! It's me, Marcella Arguello, a.k.a. I'm tired. Don't expect anything from me except maybe being mean. There you go. That's all we want.
Starting point is 00:09:22 That's all we want. Don't wake Marcella up in the middle of her nap that's how that's how we did this we yeah didn't tell her she was on we just came over and woke her up yeah i'm fucking tired what's wrong with you guys like why you have microphones i'm like we're gonna do the podcast right now hey hey hey wake up it's worse than a dick in your face it's just a microphone in here you mean oh wait you're gonna dick and rather it be a dick in your face it's just a microphone hitting here you know wait you're gonna rather it be a dick you're gonna be in des moines iowa june 14th yeah dallas texas august 2nd and 3rd that's a that's a spread chicago iowa texas and i'm gonna add a bunch of dates because i am moving to chicago
Starting point is 00:10:02 and i'm starting a monthly show out there i I'm very excited about that because comedy audiences in Chicago are fucking incredible. Yeah. And I really can't wait to get better and work. I'm going to work on a solo show out there. I'm going to, you know, make more stand up happen. And I'm really fucking excited. So I'm going to actually be in the like whatever clubs are around that area that are easy to get to. I'll definitely be frequenting that so if you guys want to send me any ideas of where i should visit in in the
Starting point is 00:10:30 states surrounding chicago let me fucking know player holler at marcella have you seen that like big shiny bean thing that's in chicago right my pussy no hey the big shiny bean I got a big old shiny bean while I'm looking oh no I haven't I rarely do touristy shit when I go anywhere I just like I'm like where can I eat
Starting point is 00:10:52 yeah that's all I care about yeah yeah well Chicago's good for that I'm not a big sightseeing person I don't like to know the racist history
Starting point is 00:10:58 of our country that's all it usually is yeah it's like this used to right exactly because even if like it's like not used to right exactly well even if like it
Starting point is 00:11:05 if it's like not like whatever christopher columbus statue like even like the bean i'm sure the bean has some fucking weird history and you're just the more you read about you're like oh god jesus christ i paid an entry fee to walk these racist step or whatever sexist homophobic whatever this is by native destruction you know yeah This is by a... Native destruction, you know? Yeah. This is by an abstract artist who was funded by and worked for the CIA. There you go. There it is.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Yeah, that's usually how it is, though. You're just always like, what? And you brought me here because you think this is cool? Why didn't we just go get cheeseburgers by a water? By a water. By a water.
Starting point is 00:11:43 I don't even care what kind of body of water it is. Take me to a water. Take me to a water. By a water. By a water. I don't even care what kind of body of water it is. Take me to a water. Take me to a water. Let's eat some hamburgers. I don't like long walks. I don't only like long walks on a beach. I like long walks by a water of any sort.
Starting point is 00:11:56 It could be the beach. It could be a river. I love it. Can you hear a stream of, you know, like a waterfall, like a man-made waterfall? Show me that shit.
Starting point is 00:12:05 There you go. Right. There you go. Go to the art museum, though. That is by, that's right. know, like a waterfall, like a man-made waterfall. Show me that shit. There you go. There you go. Go to the art museum, though. That is by, that's right. Oh, I will definitely, I will definitely be hitting up museums. That art museum is so dope. I love when all the racism is enclosed in one convenient space. And they give you little explanations about it.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Yeah, I love that. Get a little walk-in, overpriced snack. They have so many bangers in that thing where you're like, oh shit, this seminal art piece is in here too. I went there high off edibles, so fucked up. I remember just being like, yo, American, I saw American Gothic for the first time in person. I was like, yo, this shit is here?
Starting point is 00:12:36 I was just kind of, it's just wild. It's creepy. I love a museum. Love a museum. Yeah, I love a museum too. My Kentucky public school in eighth grade, we did a school trip, the big school trip for like graduating eighth grade was to chicago which was super fun but we did not go to the art museum we went to medieval times and the mcdonald's the hell yeah the global mcdonald's yeah rock and roll the rock and roll mcdonald's is that in chicago rock and roll mc rock and roll McDonald's. Is that in Chicago? Rock and roll McDonald's? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:07 It's not rock and roll McDonald's anymore. I'm sure Super Producer Justin could verify that, but I remember it's way more modern now up in there. Yeah, yeah. The McDonald's of the future. Another thing. I'm giving you jewels here. I went to the global McDonald's before October.
Starting point is 00:13:26 I was eating McDonald's, but I went to the global one. And that was interesting. They have all the weird, not weird, I shouldn't say weird, but they have all the shit that is in other countries, like international McDonald's. So we went to that. That was really interesting. What did you get?
Starting point is 00:13:41 I don't fucking remember, bro. Come on. I wasn't expecting this conversation. I feel like there's always a lot of ham or like spam or like yes there is a lot of ham yeah yeah they do love ham they take the hamburger like very literally literal yeah absolutely yeah yeah all right marcella we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about we hate to give give RFK Jr. any more attention, but the headline on this one is too much for me to resist. He is claiming, claimed, I guess, back in 2012, that a worm ate part of his brain, and that's why he can't remember anything. and that's why he can't remember anything that's not a thing he said like offhandedly while drunk at a party it is a thing he said like in a deposition like in court he said that his brain
Starting point is 00:14:33 was eaten by a worm putting it on legal so we'll talk about that whether that's true uh we'll talk about the biden administration pausing a shipment of bombs to Israel, which is not technically unprecedented. Can't wait to crack jokes on that. We might even talk about Jerry Seinfeld's weird Pop-Tarts January 6th movie. All of that. Plenty more. But first, Marcella, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? to ask our guest what is something from your search history well i haven't i haven't had a
Starting point is 00:15:07 lot of interesting searches but i did or something you screenshotted on your phone recently oh yeah i mean damn you didn't let me finish my oh my bad my bad man i hate you so much too today no no you don't hate me you don't hate me that's projection don't worry about that okay that's projection you're just your cup of hate for me is so full that it's spilling over. That's true. I'm in such a bad mood. Yeah. Your pimp hate cup runneth over.
Starting point is 00:15:33 The Drake-Hendrick situation was... It's a situation ship at this point. Yeah, it's a situation ship. I was so curious because I've hated Drake a very long time. And I've been pretty vocal anti-Drake for a very long time. I do it on stage. I spent the whole last year shitting on Ralph Barbosa's crowd because they're young men so they
Starting point is 00:15:51 all love Drake and that was so fun. I hope that they've been thinking about me this week. But anyhow, I was like, when did I start hating him? And I realized it was and that's when I googled that Bey-inspired song, The Motto. I couldn't remember the name of it but I was like, Bay-inspired Drake song. And I was like, I just, to confirm, I was like, there is no Bay producer.
Starting point is 00:16:12 There was no Bay rapper on it. And I remember that pissing me the fuck off. Oh, this is on Take Care. This was like his first big album. This was 2011. This was, I think, the third album. Damn, you do go way back with the Drake cake. I do, because when that happened, as much as, and I will say, I did enjoy the song,
Starting point is 00:16:29 because it is, it was a banger. That song goes, I was going to say. Yeah, and that was the thing. It was still early, so I was like, I mean, this song is good. And it took me a minute to be like, wait a minute, there's a bae feature on this. And then I looked it up, and I was like, and there's no bae producer on this? I was like, this is fucking whack. And that's when I was like, this guy's a fucking leech.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Because a lot, because I remember my brother being like, what? He's like, well, people, plenty of people, you know, do Bay Area music. And I was like, yeah, but they always have a Bay Area rapper featured on the song. Always when they dabble with the bass sound. And anyway, so I was like, oh, yeah, it's been since 2011 since I've been like side-eyeing that motherfucker and uh i just i'm very proud of that and that was one of my last interesting google searches yeah because that that in that song because he's he's he says rest in peace mag dray i'm gonna do it for the bay and you're like oh and i feel the video what wasn't the video also shot in the bay too i don't remember the video yeah i don't anyway like i i know what you
Starting point is 00:17:25 mean it is it's very raises an eyebrow raises yeah and it was my first time where i was like because i mean especially because the bay is so protective that i was like how did he get away with this but it was a slapper and it was early in his career and i was like maybe he just kind of like made a bad choice but nah no, it was intentional. He's ripped off everybody since then. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Yeah. We'll see where he shows his face or he's just going to post like just vacation videos for the next year or something. I can't wait to find out what happens. I hate him so much. I've been waiting for this week for so long. There's even people who are like, you know, could there be like legal consequences? Could they sue each other for what's happening and then like you know the fans are like i'm sure like the songs were vetted by lawyers it's like i don't i don't think so i don't know
Starting point is 00:18:13 i don't know he must have a big ass law firm like working around the clock kendrick if they were vetting that shit because those were coming out fast one also and if he has evidence you're like where are the police then yeah i mean i mean that's the thing though it's like what drake what suing like how much of a buster does that make him look like he can't do that like that would really ruin any kind of cool rep that he would even that he has little that he has like that's why it's so interesting when when you when you say that because it's like i mean rappers that's like you know code of conduct right it's like you don't sue each other for shit if it's a lie then it's a lie why would you sue like oh it's a lie i don't you know but if it's true and you have no proof that motherfucker andre hell it
Starting point is 00:18:59 that motherfucker has been having women sign ndas to go into his parties forever i had this friend who was a stripper and i remember her telling me and i was like what and um i was like yeah that's so fucking weird that you make people sign especially women sign ndas before you walk into your house party that's fucking weird yeah like if i did that it would just be like please don't tell anybody how messy my fucking apartment is. Right. Right. We do make people sign NDAs. Like, like imagine that.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Cause they would lock the phones. There was, he must be the original investor in yonder bags. Yeah. They would make the, these girls lock their phones and sign NDAs. Like it's a Louis CK show or some shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Right. Yeah. That's weird. Yeah. Yeah. So there's a lot of stuff about that there's the millie bobby brown interview that just like resurfaced there's a few interviews from her she's like yeah he texts me and you know he missed me so much he answers questions for me about boys and they were like what do you mean and she was was like, oh, that's going to stay in the text. I was like, no. Well, get your parents over here.
Starting point is 00:20:08 I also just love the innocence of it because she genuinely thinks there's nothing wrong with it. And it's like, yeah, of course she doesn't know because she's a literal child. That's what groomers do. They trick you into thinking that what is happening is totally normal. Yeah. Dark side of the beef. Dark side of the beef. Dark side of the beef dark side of the beef dark side of the beef what is
Starting point is 00:20:26 something that you think is underrated marcel oh my god i don't even think about this um i think underrated i'll go palestine and i'll say overrated israel there you go keep it up okay overrated Overrated. Overrated. There you go. That's it. No further comments or questions. No further comments or questions, Your Honor. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:51 That's what it feels like. Yeah. Shout out to students holding it down. Shout out to students. They're doing it. I was like, dude, so I hurt my foot and I re-injured my foot. I slipped in the rain. I re-injured it.
Starting point is 00:21:03 I don't even remember what now. I don't remember what it is. And it finally, this week, is starting to like, I can do physical therapy foot. I slipped in the rain. I re-injured it. I don't even remember what now. I don't remember what it is. And it finally this week is starting to like I can do physical therapy again. I was so thankful. But I've been like really bummed that I couldn't like go to any of these protests. Since October, I was like, I haven't been able to do shit. I've had to rest my foot. If I use my foot, it's to fucking go work on a weekend, you know.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Damn, I sound like a whore. And so it's just been so frustrating i'm like oh my god my foot's finally getting better this is so exciting i can maybe maybe go to something soon but um yeah i i really respect all those kids those student protesters there's high schools that are now getting involved like it's great i love it yeah i don't know how much longer they can keep up with the it's like it's fake it's tiktok shit because it's just i I mean, come on. Nobody's as stupid as you think they are.
Starting point is 00:21:48 But clearly they're so eloquent. Like in every interview, they're just like. They're college educated kids. They're not kids at all. I don't know. When I was in college, I was not that eloquent. Like they are smart as fuck. That's really impressive.
Starting point is 00:22:00 I mean, but that's why they have the designated speakers, right? Yeah, exactly. Because, you know, for that exact reason, because it's like, yeah, you know, you know, when something is wrong, but you can't express why it's wrong. Yeah, I have a feeling. But I also, there's just something so there's something so, I guess, poetic, and that these people have been trying to ban books. And it's like, yeah, now they're trying to ban TikTok. And it's like, yeah, education is really the Yeah, that's the problem. For right wing conservative Republicans. It's like, yeah. And now they're trying to ban TikTok. It's like, yeah, education is really the, yeah, that's the problem for right wing conservative Republicans. It's like they, the more information we have, because I always think about how the information we have about slavery and like text and literature, it's just so like, you're like, oh, this is terrible. But then when you like do actual research on your own, you like wait they were making furniture out of black people that's like their skin and using their hair to stuff you know the furniture and you're just like george washington's dentures you're like it's so crazy yeah i thought they were made of wood crazy and it's like oh this is why they're trying to obviously revisionist history exists but this is also why they're trying to reduce access to so much information knowledge literature yeah because i mean like
Starting point is 00:23:10 the more you know the like the more inadequate the response or attempt to rectify things becomes and you're like right i'm sorry i just read a whole bunch of shit and all you're doing is giving like a city an mlk boulevard right right right. Oh, no, no, no, no. We need to see money on the table. Right, that's so crazy. We're in interesting times. Interesting times. Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Starting point is 00:23:33 All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and we'll talk about some news stories. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never
Starting point is 00:24:35 happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job?
Starting point is 00:25:04 Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote.
Starting point is 00:25:24 What is it? Like you miss 100 percent of the shots you never take? Yeah. Rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really in here. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire?
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Starting point is 00:26:55 We're back. We are back. It's me. I said it. Not Jack, guys. I don't know if you caught that. Flawless impression. It's pretty hard to tell the difference
Starting point is 00:27:05 she said known virgin kv baby smelly balls jack o'brien smelly balls o'brien that's how i know him oh shit is that a child? You tell me, player. You tell me. A lot of accusations flying around these days. Oh, shit. Certified pedophile. Certified.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Certified minor. Wop, wop, wop, wop, wop. I like that. Wop, wop, wop, wop, wop. What a great song. All right. Let's check in with the Biden administration who are concerned about the incursion into RAFA and have paused a shipment of bombs, which progress. Technically unprecedented. Technically unprecedented.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Yeah. Technically, this hasn't happened since October 7th when Joe Biden is like, whatever y'all need, blank check. Go ahead. It is wild to see like what a shipment of bombs constitutes. Like, yeah, this is this is a shipment. OK, a shipment of bombs. They're like, you don't get your morning shipment. OK, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Thousands of bombs. okay yeah yeah yeah exactly thousands of bombs this is 1800 2000 pound bombs and 1700 500 pound bombs jesus christ and that's supposed to be i guess they're like the reasoning there being is like these are just too big for dense urban areas that we're really just worried about what they could do i mean we weren't worried up until now, but now we're looking at the polling and we're a little bit worried about that. And Lloyd Austin, the secretary of defense confirmed this Wednesday, because first it was like, apparently this happened last week. And he said, quote, we've been very clear from the beginning that Israel shouldn't launch a major attack into Rafah without accounting for and protecting the civilians that are in that battle space. And again, as we have assessed the situation, we have paused
Starting point is 00:29:05 one shipment of high payload munitions. We've not made a final determination on how to proceed with that shipment. Meaning, okay, so eventually you may hand it over? Yeah, what can they do? So,
Starting point is 00:29:22 what could they do to not to get their shipment of like massive bombs? Right. Exactly. It's like, OK, now you can have your bombs. They have to say they're not going to use them on Rafa. And then. Hey, I promise I'm just going to use them.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Oh, my God. What did you guys think we were going to do with them? You guys are crazy. Are you serious? You guys are literally crazy. I can't believe you're tripping. Joe, you're tripping right now. Oh my God. Did you hear what Joe said? Come on, you know me. Come on, you know me. You knew I wouldn't do that. We can't have our cyber truck sized bombs. Yeah, right. Exactly. Yeah. Because we've has a,
Starting point is 00:29:59 we has a red line. I don't know. I mean, like, so this comes as the state department prepares a report that quote, examines whether Israel's war conduct is credibly in compliance with assurances that U.S. supplied weapons are not being used in contravention of U.S. and international humanitarian law. And just based on what I've seen, read, heard, the countless protests that are happening around the world, the ICJ ruling, it seems that it might be a lot of contravention going on there. But that's just a hunch. it might be a lot of contravention going on there, but that's just a hunch. I don't know if you need that full-on report, but that's just a hunch. And, you know, we're looking at over a million displaced Gazans in Rafah, right? And that was
Starting point is 00:30:34 supposed to be a safe place for people to go. But now that Israel has seized the border crossing there, things are becoming increasingly dire. And meanwhile, representatives of the Israeli government are saying that this Pazan arms shipment could affect the ceasefire talks. And it's like, OK, Jan, like it's been pretty clear that Netanyahu has no intention of stopping this genocide. So Biden needs I mean, I'm like it's not gonna change or it doesn't i'm i'm sadly so fucking cynical that's why it makes it so difficult to watch you know the government just playing our faces like they give a fuck about the people in gaza and the west bank for like every 10 fucked up headlines about like new mass graves being discovered and children being orphaned you get like one of these goofy ass headlines about how like Joe Biden privately wants the killing to stop or how Biden has a red line
Starting point is 00:31:31 that could shift US policy. But we're close to 35,000 deaths already. And it's fucking devastating. That we know of, that we know of. Exactly. And it's just devastating to see this. Yeah, all unfold and like have to be implicit as Americans while simultaneously having yet another reminder that like the only people that get a wink of humanity in this world are those that look white.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Yeah. And it's it, yeah, this is one of those headlines that I think they do to be like, okay, we know clearly the world, the pressure is cranking up around the world about what is, you know, this likely ground invasion of Rafa. And yeah, what we're getting to sort of pacify us
Starting point is 00:32:18 is one shipment of bombs paused. Like the fact that they're saying it could affect ceasefire talks like they're like we have all the weapons we need like you've already given us everything we need right like they're this isn't strategically going to affect us like stop us from doing shit it sounds like i think where they're just sort of more they know they're like i mean i you know for them their calculus is more like we are just going to fucking flatten Gaza. We don't give a fuck and we don't give a fuck how that destabilizes the regime in the United States or whatever.
Starting point is 00:32:51 So it's like this. It's just this really cruel back and forth. But yeah, we ally. Yeah, I feel like they they made that announcement to, like, soothe the students protesting. Yeah. Like they're that fucking stupid to be like oh my god they got one shipment paused so i guys they stopped the big bomb shipment we can everybody go home everybody's going down your dormitories what the fuck do you guys want
Starting point is 00:33:17 what more do you need they're dropping top of one shipment but i hear things are pretty frosty between jill and joe so yeah because his body has expired that's why she's not sucking his dick or playing with his balls what happened that's what she's like no more did he specifically say that that's he he just said like the key to a good marriage is good sex earlier this year did he say that he did say something like that and then everybody vomited yeah he's a he's a freak it's like yeah he looks like one of those remember in uh indiana jones in the last crusade when like the them king arthur fucking mummies come out and shit yeah the one that's
Starting point is 00:33:56 where he chooses unwisely and yeah yeah fades away that's kind of what that's the kind of vibe joe's giving me right now sarcophagus energy reference he's giving off like sarcophagal vibes yeah sarcophagus all right rfk jr is we talked yesterday about how he landed the big kevin spacey endorse. But now he is getting a little more attention because the New York Times just reported that back in 2012, during a deposition for his divorce case, he revealed that in 2010, he was experiencing memory loss and doctors thought he might have a brain tumor. But it turned out to be, according to Kennedy, this is according to him, the guy who's like, I should be president. According to that man, the reason he was forgetting things is, quote, a worm that got into my brain and ate a portion of it and then died.
Starting point is 00:34:57 That's what he thinks happened to his brain. Doctors don't think that happened doctors are like that's not a thing that's happened outside of a cartoon that we're aware of that's like a that's like a fuck boy lie to get sympathy from like a woman you're like but you don't even know girl like i don't remember because like in 2010 a fucking a worm went in my brain and ate it and died in there oh my god you should have told me that i know but it's like i didn't feel like i didn't want that i didn't want you to define me by that so i didn't want to tell you crazy yeah you're probably gonna leave me like everybody else does in my life
Starting point is 00:35:36 i should just kill myself again. What? This is so triggering for me. I've fucked so many fuckboys that I'm just like, yeah, they did say some really dumb shit. You're like, wait, I've actually heard this one.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Hold on. Did he say a tapeworm ate his brain and died again? They don't fuck RFJ. What's his name? RFJ. RFK Jr. RFKJ. RFJJK FRP. what's his name r rfk junior rfkj jk fr the the degree to which this guy knows he has like mental problems like brain problems because this is around the time that like he started going real
Starting point is 00:36:17 hard on the i guess he's been like an anti-vaxxer for a while but yeah it was like the time that like his ambition really picked up and like he's in this deposition saying quote i have cognitive problems clearly i have short-term memory loss and i have longer term memory loss that affects me the other distances of memory are pretty strong though besides short term and longer than short-term. Is that why he plays dumb, like, when he gets gotcha'd by journalists? Or like, yo, bro, what about all that, like, 9-11 shit
Starting point is 00:36:51 you were saying? He's like, I never said that. I had a worm. Because he doesn't, because a worm ate that part of his memory? Do you think he believes, that's what I'm saying, like, is that what he, I'm trying to regulate if he legit has, like, his memory's just fucked up and he's trying to blame a worm or he's, this is a story to set up to give himself like plausible deniability when he's home people need to accept it like when you start aging your memory goes like that's very normal
Starting point is 00:37:14 you can just say that yeah right that's that's nobody cares i mean look at biden he's doing just fine as our president i think it helps i think it because they don't have like the part of the brain that is like self-doubt like that that's one of the first things to go we're like well they're so successful we were all talking about them therefore they must know what they're doing and it's like no he's a person who is having so much trouble thinking straight that he thought a worm like ate part of his brain like a fucking cartoon apple i will also say he if he doesn't um win which he won't but he could definitely pitch a cartoon a conservative cartoon with a little worm as his little buddy right like brain worms is a thing right isn't that a thing
Starting point is 00:38:00 that conservatives scream about is like brain worm like i feel like alex jones has talked a lot about that but alex jones is a brain worm right he's definitely i would not be shocked if he were the one person affected by brain i always think about um trump being like if you don't get tested we won't the numbers will remain low i always think about that logic that a lot of conservatives like attach themselves to of like well if we don't do if we don't know numbers will remain low i always think about that logic that a lot of conservatives like attach themselves to of like well if we don't do if we don't know or don't do the thing like it doesn't exist it's like man what the fuck are you talking about that's what this feels like he's like i mean he's actively reclassifying deaths throughout the pandemic just being like well we don't know that that's like that's that's wild to think about how bad how bad that shit was having him be the president during the pandemic. But yeah, yeah, I just think like this is something that occurs to me like when you read stuff about World War Two and like Hitler was like really dumb.
Starting point is 00:39:06 was in like the like somebody was going to be that and he just happened to be the person in that position at that time and like this motherfucker is has a last name that is politically convenient and so there's going to be an entire like industry's worth of people trying to exploit his name and then he is just fueled by privilege and opportunism and i think his dimness both robs him of any like second thinking you know self-doubt and it also makes him a good engine for like sniffing out the crazy shit that's going to appeal to like self-serious dumb people as well you know like that he so he they're like yeah we got one of our own in there who thinks that the the covet vaccine is the the biggest problem and i like the way he thinks i like the way he thinks because that's how i think because that's how i think exactly god we're doomed it's it's not a great it's not a great menu that we have to choose from in this election.
Starting point is 00:40:08 I also wonder if the internet had existed when Hitler was alive. Like, how quickly would his downfall have happened? Oh, yeah. Someone would have Kendricked him. Right. You know what I mean? Like, someone would have came out with a diss and they're like, I don't know, bro. And he slept through D-Day.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Like, that's shit just like i never forget like he just he wouldn't wake up before noon and like because he's off the speed day at during world war ii like that's they should have just given him a bunch of vcrs he could have disassembled when he was tweaking all night yeah and they kept him distracted with that it's like yeah man why don't you open up that tv see what's inside man try and figure it out yeah i'll see you in 18 hours lullaby d-day god damn what a weirdo that's what's so wild though too and like people are being like this isn't the tapeworm thing is like bullshit and they're saying it's most likely caused by mercury poisoning yeah kennedy didn't say he was sushi that's's what I'm saying. You got the Jeremy Piven, Mercury Poison.
Starting point is 00:41:06 He got the Piven. He got Piven. Because you got the Piv. You were eating too much fucking sushi, too much omakase. Like, how many fucking proofs are you to? It's like, yeah, bro, I eat sushi like three times a day.
Starting point is 00:41:16 No rice, too. The white American diet, no rice, too many carbs. Yeah. Straight up. Just sashimi. Just sashimi all day. That's it.
Starting point is 00:41:24 It's like the physical form of affluenza you know like that people can get get off from killing someone because they have affluenza like their parents raised them to you know insulated from reality like the the physical version of that is like mercury poisoning from too much Like, I just can't stop eating this stuff, your honor. Yeah. Because he was, I mean, I Googled RFK sushi because I was just curious to see if, like, that's his shit. But the one headline I didn't find was, like, he was eating, like, sushi somewhere with, like, Alicia Silverstone. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Oh, my goodness. They were talking it up anti-vax style. Oh. Yeah. What a disaster. Yeah. Yeah. This is a depressing episode. I they're all like they're all depressings on some i don't think they all are pick your spots uh we'll pick something frivolous more frivolous please do but yeah it's just it is you know what you know what
Starting point is 00:42:19 bothers me is that as three of us all very smart capable human beings and we would never pursue politics because it's so fucking absurd to think like i'm gonna be in charge of you know a community of people and it's like it takes a real fucking weirdo and like every time these types of stories come out i'm just like yeah man like that's the kind of weirdo you have to be to be a politician and it's like even with aoc i remember being like i'm gonna i'm gonna love her at the beginning because i know eventually it's gonna turn that's just it's like, even with AOC, I remember being like, I'm going to love her at the beginning because I know eventually it's going to turn.
Starting point is 00:42:47 That's just normal. That's just what happens. And that is what's been happening. And it's just one of those things where you're just like, man, it doesn't matter if you do go in with good intentions
Starting point is 00:42:57 because, I mean, I don't know if anybody goes in with good intentions. But I think with those student activists, I'm always hopeful that those students that are protesting now are going to pursue politics.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Because I feel like that's the only way that this shit is going to change is like literal infiltration of educated young progressive people. Yeah, because if that's the game you need to be at to have a seat at the table, like you have to play the game differently. Because all of these people, I was talking to somebody who like had worked for like, like the White House, like in the 70s. And I was like, what the fuck is up with like all these people? And he's like, I'm telling you, they get in there and it's the coolest fucking job you've ever had. Like, they're like, yo, you can't like these armored cars and shit flying on Air Force One. And it just people just get hooked on that sort of level of being important to the point that they're like, OK, well, where am I? Where's my money coming from? So I can run my next campaign. I got to fucking kiss the ring. I got to bend the knee. Then I'll do that versus people who are like we just need like a World War Z type strategy of being like yeah man go in make the votes count if they fucking come in primary you like we'll just put 17 more bodies up that are ready to go with nobody who gives a fuck about staying there and having like a dynastic run as a congressperson because everyone's calculus is just to it's like once you get there is just to stay there stay there yeah i know and that's what like i think that's what poisons a lot of people on some level and there's only a few people that are able to kind of you know it's like maybe three
Starting point is 00:44:28 people that can even keep their principles it's like it's like a fucked up like a twilight zone version of fame right it's like at least like fame it's it just seems kind of cut and dry you know it's and then whatever unless you fucking end up in ditty's house uh it gets a little more complicated but you know like that but that that's the the the dynamics that you're dealing with and then like to be like to want political fame feels insane yeah right yeah it feels like that is the thing that is most noteworthy about all of them is that they've made that decision to pursue that like that's the strangest thing about them. It's not like, oh, they're so much smarter. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:45:07 They're like, they're smart. There are a lot of smart people in a lot of different industries. The thing that is unique and defining about all the people in this is that they don't think it's weird that they're in charge of other people, you know? Right, and a lot of them,
Starting point is 00:45:22 especially like with Kennedy, it's like the they're self-funding so they're just like yeah i mean i could i'll only imagine the type of i just speak about comics because that's my my world but like if comedians that are great actually had the money to self-fund the way like j-lo fucking self-funded that stupid fucking movie yeah 20 million dollars you know it's like bitch you can use that money for something good all right but it's just like it's that you know they perpetuates whatever it is that you want to perpetuate and it's just such a bummer that principled people like don't want to be wealthy and don't want to like have a
Starting point is 00:45:56 power over people which is good but it's just like fuck man how do we how do we really change all this shit you know exactly what you were saying it's like to have 17 people ready to fucking infiltrate that shit yeah because that's the thing that gets people in line you know like they go oh you don't you don't want to take this money from from apac right guess what then we'll primary you and it takes someone to be like i don't give a go ahead yeah because we'll run somebody i got fucking 35 000 people behind me that are ready to fucking also just be a body, just to be a vote, like not to be a career politician, but to be a vote. And I think that's like a paradigm shift that may or may not happen. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Like there's there's so many other factors at play. Seems exhausting. Yeah. Yeah. I started rewatching Veep and I'm just like so like, yeah, this has got to be what it's like. This shit is so insane. How could it not be this? That's what all the political operatives were like.
Starting point is 00:46:46 This is the first time it's actually been accurate. Yeah. Except like our insults aren't as good as their insults. Of course not. They're not that smart. In DC, they call it Hollywood for ugly people. You know what I mean? That's what they say.
Starting point is 00:46:57 That's funny. But the wild shit is like, so with this RFK, the thing that really fucking blows my mind, right, is like after this like brain worm shit, like someone asked, you know, his campaign about being like, yo, this guy said he's got like he's saying, yo, I got cognitive issues. Right. And they're like, is this going to be a problem? And the spokesperson said, quote, that is a hilarious suggestion given the competition. Right. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:47:20 They're so right. That's what fucks me up. And they're so right. He's up against a decrepit monkey skeleton and a sentient racist diaper. And you're like, yeah, I don't know, the motherfucker who ate too much sushi, I guess, who ate anti-vax. That's what I'm saying. That's so frustrating. There's like much better, you know, qualified, smarter, more intelligent, more eloquent people.
Starting point is 00:47:39 But it's like they don't have the funding. And it's like, J-Lo, take that $20 million and fund someone interesting to get into politics. Everything feels insane. That J-Lo movie is timeless. That's going to be a museum in the future. Shut the fuck up, Jack O'Brien. That part, yeah, yeah. With fucking Post Malone being one of the fucking whatever the Zodiac characters.
Starting point is 00:47:59 I couldn't even get through. I think I got through the second song and I was like, yeah, I'm not doing this. This is insane. Yeah. Post Malone's in the movie? Yeah. through i think i got through the second song and i was like yeah i'm not doing this this is insane yeah i mean i think in the movie yeah he plays like there's like a there's like a council of the zodiac symbols and like people are like embodying the lips yeah no i i watched it it's just he disappears into his roles so much that i couldn't smelly balls get it together i thought it was pre-malone people the other thing is like, yeah, I think hopefully more people just understand, right, that with our, the illusion of having primaries and things like that, it's truly what the ruling class wants to put on the menu for us.
Starting point is 00:48:33 You know, I'm like, because there are so many progressive people that have tried to run, get bodied out. You see what happens to like, you know, every, nearly every election cycle, there's someone who's like, has a message that is trying to go against the status quo. And it's just like, well, let's pretend. You know what? Fuck them. Get them out of here. You know what? Also, I'll say to that, too.
Starting point is 00:48:55 I have a friend who's voted third party as long as I've known her. And she's a civil rights lawyer. She's about it, about it, right? And I have never looked down on her when she would do that because i was like that's fucking her choice you get to fucking make whatever choice she wants but with this round where like i've been telling people like i don't know i don't know what i'm gonna do like i'm gonna obviously vote for all the other shit i was like but i don't know i think i'm just gonna leave it blank for you know the president because i just i feel i feel insane i don't feel principled i mean i don't feel like it's principled. And I have gotten so many
Starting point is 00:49:25 condescending responses to that. And I'm just like, and I ended up texting my friend that again, has been voting third party since she's been able to. I asked her if I've ever been a condescending dickhead to her because I've never experienced, I've never, I've never thought about voting third party or just not voting for the Democrat. And uh i've been talking to people about that and yeah everyone's so rude anyways she was like no you've never been that way and i was like thank god i was like i i mean logically it makes no sense but it just made me glad that i was never that person because it just it feels so insane that people are just so they have no desire to think that change or improvement can exist like it's an option like it's just not an option for
Starting point is 00:50:05 people and i find it so it's it's really disheartening i guess i just want to say that i mean i think it also speaks to a level of comfort someone is experiencing when you can look at all these things on the horizon and for many people they're like yo this looks like this ends with me being imprisoned or having rights severely restricted and they're like no i've been good i'll probably be good yeah and then they're like, no, I've been good. I'll probably be good. Yeah. And then they're like, fuck this up for me. And, you know, that's why I think it's this is such a fucking precarious election, man, because everything that's it can be a completely different dimension but like what we are seeing even with the way this like the police are behaving with students you look at in the 60s like in the 70s like these vietnam protests there was no militarized response off the fucking bat like there is now that's right this is this is completely different shit like they would have time travelers been like oh shit they're doing all like that already right they're like you know it's like it's anyway the times are
Starting point is 00:51:10 very different and i think that's what just makes it very hard to like think about how how things improve and what the the pathway there is and like yeah the other times when i talk to like people who do a lot of like activist work like in the streets and stuff and doing like working for like non-profits and things they're like they're like i think my job would be a lot harder if trump's in office because they'll you know the kinds of shit that they would try and make illegal would make it really hard for me to work with like very vulnerable people and it's just like there's so many there's so many late there's so many things to consider yeah but yeah it's but i think everybody's going through it and we shouldn't be condescending to each other on you know what it's also just what a what a terrible way to
Starting point is 00:51:50 approach any conversation that someone is trying to have sincerely you know yeah you can't actually have a conversation about this you need to be a dickhead off jump right it's like you can't the daily zeitgeist and you're not a guest you can't just do that right sorry for the dog working i'm dog sitting if we didn't already know no no no crazy oh really she know cochina cochina yeah all right should we take a break and come back and talk about jerry seinfeld's weird movie yeah yeah that's a bumper. Comedic icon. I know. Jerry Seinfeld is for sure. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:52:28 All right. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jimei Jackson-Gadsden.
Starting point is 00:53:39 We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Santer. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take?
Starting point is 00:54:19 Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because
Starting point is 00:54:55 of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? Just come here and play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?
Starting point is 00:55:17 And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Power, power! Hey, how about that? Outro Music yeah capture my energy for sure because i am venmoing you every time you call me smelly balls oh my god miles the asian guy tell us about some of the wacky stuff you've been eating man
Starting point is 00:56:17 smell like that how much garlic do you eat bro you guys eat a lot of garlic, don't you? I'm like, yeah, I'm black too. Yeah, yeah, but most people think you should be on that. You guys eat a lot of garlic, don't you? What? Why is it garlic? All right. Should we talk about some pop culture that's, I don't know, still somewhat problematic.
Starting point is 00:56:46 But Jerry Seinfeld dropped Unfrosteded we talked about the trailer when it came out it's just it looked unhinged i still haven't seen it our writer jm has seen it and says it's seemed to side with a review that i'll read excerpts from in a moment but you know the trailer has it's like about the invention of the Pop-Tart, but like Tony the Tiger and Snap, Crackle, and Pop are characters in the film. Like it just looks kind of unhinged.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Cinema. It looks very cinematic. Cinnamon. So in this case, Tony the Tiger represents Ennui. we no he just represents tony the tiger he's just he makes sense it's a world where tony the tiger is a real thing that makes cereal i guess so it dropped it's quickly gone to the top of the netflix top 10 movies chart this weekend unclear if that's just people who wanted something to have listened
Starting point is 00:57:46 to while assembling ikea furniture but it's it's at number one it's been at number one for a few days that is shocking that it's even number one yeah that's number one people well so seinfeld the show is you know one of the most watched things on Netflix. So I do wonder how much crossover there is there, like a new Seinfeld thing. Let's see. It's at 41% on Rotten Tomatoes. And one review that our writer, J.M., seems to agree with, called it, quote, one of the decade's worst movies,
Starting point is 00:58:20 questioned why Seinfeld didn't, quote, halt production halfway through and apologize to everyone for wasting their time. Which is so pretty intense. Have you heard the story when he talked, like I saw him do an interview about it and he was saying
Starting point is 00:58:36 he just wanted something to do during the pandemic. He wrote this like fever dream thing. Like I said, this self-funding shit is just so insane. It's out of control. I was reading that it's one of the least viewed movies on that even though it's like it is at number one it's it's just showing how how bad viewership is right now because it's like the least people aren't actually watching it that much but just nobody's watching movies right now yeah yeah it's pretty wild when something is like self-funded
Starting point is 00:59:05 self-started from somebody like seinfeld who like people are probably dying to like get him to make something for them but the most talked about moment in the movie is the climax which is a parody of the january 6th riot but with people in mascot costumes. So comedy. Yeah. Hugh Grant's Tony, the tiger even wears a QAnon shaman ask outfit and urges a sea of striking mascots to siege the building in the movie. It's to stop the FDA from certifying pop tarts,
Starting point is 00:59:40 like because they are worried that pop tarts are going to take their jobs or something. Oh, my God. Yeah, it is. Yeah. While replacing, referencing the Great Replacement Theory. So it's all just these, like, weird. Oh, my God. Are you serious?
Starting point is 00:59:55 Yeah, yeah. It's, like, these weird, empty gesture, empty references to, like, white supremacy from somebody who by the way has like recently been like you can't be funny anymore because you can't be funny anymore because of dei dei ruined comedy it's the woke what's the deal with dei deal with equity yeah but yeah the q anon shaman gave it a glowing review but like so one of the film screenwriters explained in an interview that it was all because they were writing a movie there was an actual strike at kellogg's and the insurrection happened and it was never he said quote it was never we want to do a gen six thing when you're building a story you're just putting a piece on top of peace and that story led us there oh my god
Starting point is 01:00:42 you're just putting a piece on top of peace. And that story led us there. Oh my God. And he's also like, it's funny to have a bunch of costumed creatures doing violent things, which like, that's a good description of writing when you have nothing to say, right? You're putting a sentence on top of a sentence.
Starting point is 01:00:58 When the only thing you have is money. Just stacking sentences out here. Wow. And yes, men who are like, Oh, Jerry, that's so fucking genius to combine.
Starting point is 01:01:06 So there's an actual workers' strike at Kellogg's. Don't worry about what they're striking for. Indistinguishable in Jerry Seinfeld's mind, by the way. The January 6th riots and a workers' strike at Kellogg's. Right. By the way, Kellogg's. That's the same thing. Look at these people.
Starting point is 01:01:23 What's their problem? What are they so upset about? They get free cereal. You're not starving. Kellogg's workers were striking, by the way, because of horrific labor practices that recalled the dark, satanic mills era of factory work where understaffed facilities were forcing people to work 72 to 84 hour work weeks. And that's the thing. He's like, I don't know. They seem mad. Who cares? Holy shit.'s crazy i mean good for you good for you i mean yeah i remember we were
Starting point is 01:01:51 this is like this such a legit thing and the the the mixing of those two things like such a giveaway of like his worldview and whatever the fuck he just wants to say with this movie is to be like people fighting for equity then far right answer right who gives a shit it's the same let's laugh yeah he was also him and eddie murphy had a good comedians and cards getting coffee because uh i don't know if it was him who said it or eddie or they both agreed on it but they're talking about how like once you have money you're not funny yeah it's like well you had this conversation you've agreed with it and you are still doing this like what right yes seinfeld was on that first episode of the millennia show and he just like seemed he like could gesture at like he would say things like what's the deal with this what what's going on here but like he
Starting point is 01:02:44 just i don't know. The life was like missing behind his eyes. I mean, he's definitely been on the worst press tour I've ever seen. Like just most unfunny shit. He keeps complaining about shit that he don't need to be complaining about. Yeah. And then he even did like SNL cameo on weekend update,
Starting point is 01:02:59 like be like guy who's been on a promo tour or whatever. And he just wasn't funny. It was, it's just, it's just so disappointing as someone who I was watching seinfeld at 12 years old i loved that show that was like some of my first like like white comedy i liked as a kid that i was like this is really fucking interesting and good of course that it was 12 years old and you know like that was peak comedy for me and i just see what he has done it's just it's just it's such a bummer to
Starting point is 01:03:26 know you've invested you've given this person money like it's such a fucking that's how i feel about uh kim kardashian like if i hadn't given brandy money when i was a kid listening to i want to be down ray j would have never fucked kim kardashian we never would have had her i feel like everything comes down to me yeah I just feel like everything is my fault including this. I'm sorry everyone. I just want to apologize to our listeners.
Starting point is 01:03:49 I'm the reason that Pop-Tart movies exist. But I think every time he makes something on his own and Larry David makes something on his own
Starting point is 01:03:57 we like learn a little bit more clearly what the genius was behind Seinfeld. Absolutely. I think it's probably making him a little bit pit like he probably doesn't feel great about that maybe and that's why he's such a cranky old
Starting point is 01:04:10 fuck this is the same thing with chapelle and neil brennan everybody was like oh chapelle show chapelle is chapelle and it's like over time we've learned part of the magic was neil brennan and we had no idea and like the more not that i even love ne love Neil Brennan that much, but Chappelle has really proven what, you know, what kind of comedy he's trying to do. And Neil is like actively always trying new shit
Starting point is 01:04:30 and, you know, experimenting and, you know, exploring new spaces. Still capable for Dave. I feel the same way about them that I feel I agree with Larry and Jerry. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:39 I mean, there's a reason Larry left at a certain point. I think he left on season seven or some shit like that. Yeah. And also, Julie Louise Dreyfuss. Like, just fucking amazing. I mean, that cast is, you know, the three were insane.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Yeah. I mean, they were all incredible on that show. And Julie Louise Dreyfuss has proven that she fucking can carry anything. New Adventures of Old Christine. I mean, god damn, that show is so funny. Is it really? I need to go back and watch that. Oh my god, that show is really... I mean, I feel like Veep is like...
Starting point is 01:05:10 Blows it out of the water at this point, but that's, you know, what we like. But New Adventures of Old Christine is very funny. Yeah, just like started like, you know, midway. Those early episodes you gotta just skip. Yeah, I get it. But it's just so those workers
Starting point is 01:05:26 were striking to oppose legitimately terrible conditions and a literal billionaire because seinfeld is now a billionaire decided to use that strike as inspiration for his movie that then became a glorified commercial for the company that they were striking against in kellogg because now like kellogg is releasing like tie-in pop- pop tart boxes that like tie into the movie and shit. So it's just, yeah, but that's, yeah,
Starting point is 01:05:52 this is where we're at. This is where we're at. And this is where we're at. Marcella. Yay. It's always such a pleasure having you on, as you know, for me to really wanted to talk about. No, for me. I really wanted to talk about...
Starting point is 01:06:05 No, just kidding. I never want to. You wanted to talk about drones? Yeah, I really wanted to talk about drones invading my privacy. Yeah. It's great having you. Thanks for having me. I'm sorry I've been chaotic.
Starting point is 01:06:17 The last two episodes, I think I've been a mess. Really? Once my life gets back on track, I will be a perfect guest. Chicago Marcel? Yeah, Chicago Marcel is going to be in such a great... I'm going to be getting dick all the time. I'm going to be ready for comedy at every corner of that city. Oh, so you're blaming a dick deficit?
Starting point is 01:06:36 Is that what's going on? Absolutely. Oh, okay. Because you don't get sleep, but you get some dick the first thing in the morning. You're like, you know what? I can get through this day. I can have some laughs people people you know people carry um trauma in their hips you guys know that right and i saw someone i've heard that so i saw someone tweet
Starting point is 01:06:53 yesterday like you guys are confusing healing and hoeing and it's like hey it's easy to mix up when you hold trauma in your hips because sometimes fucking gets the trauma out of you and you don't even realize the problem is that dick gives you more trauma if that motherfucker's a dickhead and then you got more trauma to unfold and you just got to keep fucking it's a sick cycle you got to fuck your way through it yeah fuck your way through it open those balls knows what i'm talking about hey this guy that's another 50 that's another 50 hey oh man you are bankrupting me over here Marcelo where can people
Starting point is 01:07:29 find you and wait oh in the piece of media right sir yeah and is there a word in media that you've been enjoying
Starting point is 01:07:34 I'm so impatient your listeners are right I'm a dickhead are they really that mean to you they love you I don't care I just like playing into it
Starting point is 01:07:43 it's really funny to me yeah when people don't like me, I'm just like, I can make it worse. I'm not big. Oh, yeah. I miss it.
Starting point is 01:07:49 I do think we should start having like wrestling entrance music when you're on. Oh, that'd be tight. Like what Miles and I are just up top talking. Oh, yeah. Like the Undertaker.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Oh, yeah. Look who just came in. Oh, my God. That's Marcella's music. Oh, yeah, brother. I'm here to fucking insult you and your mama. Gong. Just the Undertaker gong. Yeah. Oh, yeah, brother. I'm here to fucking insult you and your mama. Gong.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Just the Undertaker gong. Oh, my God. I loved wrestling as a kid. Wrestling is perfect for children. Absolutely. And some adults. No, but okay. They keep the money in it.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Oh, man. There's a clip of Ric Flair so drunk at a bar in Florida that was going around on the internet is that the one where he complained about how they wouldn't let him go to the bathroom or whatever he's like I never said cuss words to you and you're like oh my god bro how is this guy fucking alive he seems easy to get
Starting point is 01:08:37 to say a slur like you could get him to say a slur very quickly yeah yeah yeah he's slipping up for sure well my socials are at Marcella Comedy. You can find me everywhere on socials at Marcella Comedy. And the piece of media I've been enjoying is this girl, Brianna Weimar. She's on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:08:57 That's where I follow her. I'm sure she's on TikTok, but she's going to be banned from there soon. So follow her on Instagram. Her handle is itsgoodbye20s, as in farewell,'s goodbye 20s she has the most fucking hilarious videos there she calls it unhinged parenting and she does that style of like my son's school said that he needs to have you know more protein in his lunches so
Starting point is 01:09:21 and then she'll like make a completely it's all fake it's all hilarious it's all satire but people think it's real because of how she has cut it up and it's just i strongly recommend everybody to just go just get a good laugh and we all need a good laugh it's really unhinged very funny and she makes it like yesterday she made a my my son's school said i've been giving him too much sugar but that's what he likes to get through the day. And then she made him a fake hot dog with a Twinkie in half, put cheese and a fucking Slim Jim inside of it, put red and yellow frosting on top. It's so funny. It's just for the sake of being humorous, and I love it.
Starting point is 01:10:04 And people get actually mad at her in the comments, which makes it more funny, too. Yes. Yeah. Nobody can understand that. Yeah, it's so funny. That's great. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Yeah, Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Grey. If you want NBA talk, that's Miles and Jack. I'm at Boosties. If you want 90 If you want NBA talk, that's Miles and Jack. I'm at Boosties. If you want 90-day fiance talk, that's 420-day fiance with Sophia Alexandra. Some tweets I like. First one is at House of Decline, H-A-U-S.
Starting point is 01:10:37 He said, Obama-era McLemore. I'm super-duper not gay, but they should have they hold on obama era mclemore i'm super duper not gay but they should have rights uh biden era mclemore there should be global intifada yes and then uh another one uh another uh show favorite josh gondelman uh at josh gondelman tweeted the worst outcome of the kendrick lam Lamar Drake beef would obviously be escalating physical violence, but the second worst would be if this all was leading up to a Sprite commercial. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:11:12 That's racist. You can't say that. Obey your thirst. Jack, where can people find your stupid smelly balls? Oh, my God. Find my stupid smelly balls anywhere. Yeah, see, I got them all nervous, listeners. He's like, oh, he said something mean.
Starting point is 01:11:29 First of all, you can't find them anywhere because they're not smelly. They smell great. And a tweet I've been enjoying is, there's this House of Decline comic that four panels, first panel is two people saying, it's weird how 9-11 became a national holiday. And the other person says, oh no, that means,
Starting point is 01:11:50 and then cut to Jack Skellington, like in the forest of the holidays from Nightmare Before Christmas, opening up the 9-11 portal. And then he's like popping out of an airplane bathroom going, what's this what's this and the plane is like flying into the twin towers you're a sick fuck what the hell what the fuck is wrong with me oh my god i'm a little twisted i'm a little twisted the other one better be good shout out better be good bro all right that first one was sick and not in a cool way not in and not cool not cool somebody tweeted the my favorite video on the internet which is the bowler pete weber throwing a strike that wins the tournament
Starting point is 01:12:38 and turning around and saying and saying who do you think you are i am and they say pete weber was not trying to go viral when he won the 2012 PBA US Open. All he wanted to do was to show up a 12 to 14 year old who jeered against him a little too loudly for his liking. And M. Nate Shyamalan tweeted, I love the revelation that all of this was to stick it to a middle schooler.
Starting point is 01:13:01 And that's real talk. But that's amazing that he was yelling that at a child. That is my favorite clip on the internet. Who do you think you are? I am? Was him trying to yell at a 12 year old and then fucking it up so bad
Starting point is 01:13:17 he couldn't complete it. I fucked up. I'm sorry Marcel. These are terrible. You're a weirdo bro. We fucked up. I'm sorry, Marcel. These are terrible. These are both bad. You're a weirdo, bro. We learned a lot about you with those two.
Starting point is 01:13:31 You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien liking sick, fucked up shit like that. No wonder your balls are so smelly. You think that's what makes my balls smelly?
Starting point is 01:13:43 You're so distracted. My bad taste in tweets. I'm so focused on bad tweets that I can't wash my balls properly. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Miles, what is the song that you think people would like? I'm going to keep telling people to listen to that band OMA and their live band instrumental recreations. This is them doing Mob Deep's Shook Ones Part 2, but it's all live. Take it to your ears, and they will thank you it sounds so good they really just captured that i mean it's very similar to the actual song but they like i don't know it's like an impressionistic version that really just captures it yeah yeah yeah it's
Starting point is 01:14:38 beautiful all right we will link off to that in the footnotes the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning. Back this afternoon to tell you what's trending. And we'll talk to you all then. Bye. Bye. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti.
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