The Daily Zeitgeist - Aaron SorkTrend 6/11: NY Knicks, Iran, 'The Odyssey' Popcorn Bucket

Episode Date: June 11, 2026

In this edition of Aaron SorkTrend, Jack and Miles discuss the NY Knicks winning game 4, Iran somehow closing the Strait of Hormuz even harder, 'The Odyssey' popcorn bucket and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Have we done a Sork Trend before? Who knows? Impossible to say. that one courtesy of vanadium silver on the discord. My name is Jack O'Brien. That over there is Mr. Miles Gray. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

It's me. From hey, hey, hey, hey, to like, hey, like, dad. Dad, hey. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a whole other level. Anyway, yeah, I'm just really loving my New York Knicks. Long time, lifelong fan, obviously. I was really happy about everything that's happening for my city, for my team.

Shout to Vanadium Silver. I did not realize Aaron Sork and wrote Moneyball. That was one of the... Vanadium Silver, a little behind the scenes of the Discord will go through like a whole run of a topic. And so we had Aaron Sork trend. The trend wing.

Ah. Which he said sucks. The American present trend. Oh, is that? Oh, man. I didn't... This was a real jog down. I did not realize he had,

had trendy ball in there because Sorkham wrote that. Co-wrote that, right? Yeah, he co-wrote it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was based on a book. And I think he co-wrote it with somebody else. The guy who did Schindler's listing. Anyways, this is, it's Thursday, June 11th.

Mm-hmm. Oh, no, we don't do the, what day of the, did you? You know, you know, in your plastic case that we give you, you open the one for the one that's at Thursday a.m. Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. You sure?

Because last time they were a couple unopened. I actually opened them all. One, two, skip a few, 99, 100. Miles. Yes. Last night, the Knicks shocked the world. Oh, man, my Knicks. My Knicks.

The world of people who haven't been watching them this year. Great game to watch. I always expect them to come back from any deficit. They're just. From this run they've been on? Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. It's been incredible. down 29 points.

Yeah, so they were down 29, which seems like a lot. That's some turning off the TV shit, 29 points. Wait, they won, I turned it off after 20 minutes. I said, forget this shit. With one second left, Playoff hero, OG,

Ananobe came through, came flying down the lane, just put his hand up, tipped the ball, and it went directly into the basket. The confidence of Jalen Brunson, don't even shoot that three. I was like, oh, it's, it's knives out, huh?

Okay, let's do it. Never lacking. I know, that's a mic. I really, I love that. I love that energy. This didn't feel like a moment. Like, everybody was kind of watching this. Like, everybody I talked to, people who are not basketball fans were like, yeah,

I was watching for some reason. Just had a feeling. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like, I know a couple of people who actually turned off when they're like, ah, shit, 29 points. and then the text drives are like, you need to turn it back on,

you need to turn it back on. They actually sent out a silver alert to be like, turn the game back on, the Knicks are within 10. For all the elderly people sitting front row at the Knicks show, please,

wake up, wake up. Larry David almost died at one point. Josh Hart missed a go-ahead layup and you saw his body like crumple on the sideline. I'm surprised he had a bigger reaction than John McEnroe,

who was next to him. John McEnroe, secretly very zen. Yeah, that's true. It was all for the cameras. Yeah, then one thing I did see, though, that I was a little bit like, hold on, way to tick here. Taylor Swift was courtside.

Oh, yeah, you can't stand her. Oh, no, sorry, go ahead. No, with two of the Heim sisters wearing like Knicks, like, pun shirts. And I get it. It's a moment. Celebrities want to get in. But this, for whatever reason, I'm in my mind. I'm very protective of band.

Like, I don't like bandwagon nicks. fans, I don't, like, as a lake fan, I'm like, yeah, join the band. I don't give a shit. But for Knicks fans, this is like so, this has been earned over decades of pain and sorrow. Sure. That I feel like having celebrities just pull up wearing their Nick shirts and be like, oh my God, I love this game is a little bit like, come on man. This, like, there has to be. There are cute shirts. They have little puns on them.

Stevie Nix. Nick Old Kidman. Cute. Nickelback. 10 out of 10. 10 out of 10 on the bunch shirts. On the execution, however, theoretically, you don't like their... I guess it's more just like Taylor Swift.

Like, whatever, Taylor Swift is a huge celebrity. The Hymn sisters are canonically and locally known as very much L.A. people, like, people from the valley. People born in the valley, people of L.A. Esty went to UCLA around the same time I was there. So then when I'm like, I'm like, y'all are New York celebrity. Like, if you're really is that what this is about? You're feeling left behind by your friend from college? We were not even in the same departments, but no, no, I think it just, I think it's, I think I felt

the same way because with Arsenal, like, we had been through a 22 year drought and then, like, suddenly celebrities come out of the woodwork, like, being like, oh, yeah, I've always been down. And I'm like, I get catching a wave. But yeah, when it's like a team that's, that people have been just spilling their tears on the court of Madison Square Garden season after season, just like, there's something done that as a bit and then just like as they're getting the national spotlight just like start getting facts wrong like because we were talking like well this is my favorite nix team since the 97 champions that's something that kathy hokehiel did where she was like i bet donald trump can't even

name one of the starters from the 1999 championship team i'm like well i mean yeah no i don't think anyone's gone that far. That would be fun. That would be a fun bit to just be like, no, I'm a lifelong fan. There's just so many pictures of you like with, wearing every team that's been in the, or just any team that's winning. Oh, man, I love Caramello Anthony. And that one Asian guy, Justin Zinn, right? Remember Zinsanity? Zinsanity. We all, we all loved it. A. That's Howard Zinn's kid, right? So if you're going to pretend to be the fan of a team, this was good execution. Like, we have seen celebrities roll up.

Like, there's the famous photograph of Rob Lowe at an NFL game to promote one of his countless shows, you know, network television shows. And he had a baseball hat on that said NFL. Oh, that's right. At least they didn't do that. They had some good shit on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And shout out Wu-Tang. They did the half-time performance. What? Yeah, that's the thing we didn't get to see. And I had to watch a bootleg Wu-Tang internet performance. But yeah, Wootang-Termintz. I did. Well, I did. Oh, shit, that was before the fire that we went to.

Oops. Oops. I said that to fuck with me. Oh, yeah, you got a. Hey, I love that Wu-Tang Nix jersey you got. Remember that when we were in Vegas? Oops. Oh, oopsie. Sounds like, you know. have it anymore. Jack.

Do you wear your AT Aliens Hawks jersey? Not once. I remember you being like... In my house. I remember you, like we were both pumped up for our millennial rap

throwback jerseys. And I remember you're kind of, I remember right after you body, you're like, I don't even know if I'm going, I can wear this. Yeah, yeah. You gotta wear that.

I mean, that's a dope jersey too. Yeah. One of these hits. Hey, Jack, wear it for those that lost theirs in the fire. You know what I mean? I'm wearing it this weekend.

Fuck it. Out of context. I'm wearing an, uh, Atlanta Hawks jersey this weekend. Yeah, that's right. But yeah, games two, three, and four have all been instant classics, really. It's been a great finals for the NBA.

And it's all I can ask for. You know, I love it when the best player, the future of the league is playing well, Wembe, you know, aside from, I hate when people have a game, there's a game like this and everyone's like, choke job and like immediately like turn it into like, you guys suck. It's just like, I don't know. Let's celebrate and have joy in our hearts. Yeah, I think maybe you shouldn't put money on the game. And that's why you're so reactive.

Just enjoy the fucking shit. Historic choke job. Hey, let's talk about a historic choke job by one Donald Trump. Oh, are they going to say Iran just choking the straight of war. away. So the U.S. forces launched a second round of airstrikes on Iran, Thursday morning, further making the so-called ceasefire, quote, practically meaningless, according to Iran's foreign ministry. But they've announced that they, the strait of Hormuz will be even more closed than before. Even more closeder. Even closeder.

Than before, yeah, than you could have imagined. has been completely closed to all oil tankers and commercial ships, and the U.S. responded by saying some ships were still getting through. I don't under this is the thing that Trump keeps to, like he had that statement the other day that we talked about where he was like, yeah, the reason oil isn't so expensive is because we keep sneaking in and stealing oil out. Didn't we say like a hundred million barrels or something? He said,

We took off in the night with, absconded with a hundred million barrels. They've been going in under cover of dark and stealing a hundred million barrels of oil, which is roughly equal to five days of pre-war output and would amount to about 700 ships. He made it sound like there was like a handful of ships. That would be 700 ships.

Also made it sound like you could just get that shit, like just smuggle it in a like a reusable shopping, a couple reusable shopping. They didn't even know we were doing it. We wore extra baggy pants, so it went down the leg of our pants. That's how I got this whole, that's how I got this real rotisserie chicken in the movie theater, said I was ball maxing. It was a rotisserie chicken down there.

But according to his own, I think, like somebody who works for him, yeah, energy secretary, Chris, right, there's no evidence of this, which there would be evidence of seven hundred, ships. So, like, it just seems like he keeps fucking up the negotiations. They're like, fuck you, you can't get anything out. And he's like, we're still, you know, he's like lying to us and himself. Yeah. That's the thing. Yes, we can. Yes, we can. The, who is it? I think Jim Himes, I want to say, yeah, from Connecticut. He's the congressman from Connecticut, who's on the, like, the intelligence committee. He was like, I don't know what the, fuck this guy's talking about. First of all, like, besides the claim, let's just look at how

credible Trump is when he says anything about this conflict, this illegal war. And so if you'd go there, zero fucking credibility around what he says. Next point, you think you're going to get that many ships through the straight. You can see straight across the straight with binoculars, he was saying. He's like, so how the fuck is anyone going to act like you can just sneak shit through? It's not that simple. And also, he's lying. So, right. How about that just for starters? Yeah. It's,

he's just creating fan fiction at this point. I don't. That's like, he, the word, he, he's lying about doing a thing that like, what I guess would help him rhetorically to be like,

yeah, no, they can't cut off oil because we are doing, are doing oil no matter what they say. Yeah. But then like, even if he was telling the truth and doing the thing, it wouldn't actually do what he,

he claims it would because like, yeah, the president's claim of 100 million barrels of oil is roughly equal to five days of pre-war output compared with some two billion barrels that would have transited through the Strait of Hormuz over the duration of the war. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. It's just like, it's just so funny when his own people have to clean up what he has to say, because like, to your point, like the energy secretary is like, it's just that he's talking casually about our efforts to stop Iranian oil from flowing. That's not what he said at all.

It doesn't seem like it was even remotely. I don't see how rhetorically you could get there from... He tried to clean up that I love inflation quote too yesterday and he was like... The energy secretary did? No, no, no, Trump did. Clearly, after people like,

you're making it even easier for the Democrats who need to do fuck all in midterms and just play clips of you saying shit like this. You need to clean this up. And his explanation is like, I said I love it because the numbers weren't even close to being as high as people thought they would give in the disruptive nature of this fucked up war. And then like journalists even like who fact checked like yeah, that's not even close. Like it's like this isn't come. The projections are accurate as to what the war would do. The projections are exactly right on. That's what I meant that I love it, that they're high because they're not as high as you thought haters. That's right. Yeah, just,

Jesus Christ. And also you just said, I love inflation. You didn't say, I'm actually proud of how low the inflation is compared to what it could. What's that doctor? You said, I love, I love inflation. What about my STI tests? Well, good, because I love herpes. So I love it.

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around the World Cup where he's just like, here's the weather, here's who's playing, here's how to get to the game, here's how to get back, and also he was, he looked like he'd been up late like part in the video, but he was like, you know,

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So they just, like, need to have a way to speak directly to the people, like, on a very regular basis. So it doesn't get filtered through the New York Post or whatever. Yeah. Or the New York Times. Yeah, yeah. Anything. Anything. Anything.

Yeah. Anything. I think anything. He's also still feuding with Dolan, right? Yeah, yeah. There was a thing where, like, Dolan was, like, the watch parties have been shut down. Look at what Zoron, and this is like all on Zoron. And Zoran was like, no, we were trying to open the back up.

Just like right before Game 4, man, that would have been a fucking, well, fuck that, fuck that. Let these people fucking party together in front of the fucking, in front of MSG, but whatever, you know. I wish I could convince Mr. Dolan, but I can't. He was also on like WFAN. He's like, the president wasn't sleeping. It's like, motherfucker, you both.

You were both sleeping. How the fuck would you know? Yeah. See, very easy to fall asleep and then not think you have. Very easy to fall asleep at the NBA finals. Obviously, it's a, it's just like an energetic dead spot there. Right. Yeah. Game three. First Nick's finals game in decades. All right. And we are finally getting a look at the popcorn.

buckets for, uh, that are going to be on sale for Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey. You get to eat out of like a, uh, fucking Cyclops's skull or something where the eye would be. That sounds fun actually. Wait a second. Wouldn't that be cool? Just rip like a fucking, like, it had like a fly out. Yeah, just like grimped in. Like, let me get the fucking popcorn out of this fucker's ocular cavity. Um, so last week tickets went on sale and the demand was so high that AMC's website crashed. So that's people, people are going to see the shit out of this movie.

It would seem. I didn't realize it was rated R. That's, I guess that makes sense. It's probably gonna be pretty violent. We've seen, we've seen the trailer where they like throw people through trees. Yeah,

yeah, break trees while breaking people's back. Someone's got to get like ripped in half with their bare hands, right? Yeah. I feel like you're going to see a cyclops do that. But movie theaters are capitalizing on the hype in the way that modern movie theaters do by unveiling the new Odyssey themed popcorn bucket shaped like the Trojan horse,

aka just a horse statue. Wait, what is this thing? For all we know, something else will be hiding inside waiting to ambush us. But for now, it appears to be just popcorn. Diarrhea from the fake butter. This is sad. It doesn't even look like you can hold that much popcorn. It doesn't.

It looks like a truly like a handful of popcorn can fit in its undercarriage. It just looks like a bat. Like it honestly looks like a toy that you would find in a like archaeological dig, you know? Like an old toy that was like sculpted from clay. Clay and horse shit. Or like, you know, Travel Town, Griffith Park where like you can get those injection. I don't know if they still sell those like injection molded plastic toy. like this looks like an injection molded

plastic horse where the tummy just flops out and you can fit in a handful of pop. No. Well, so Miles, a lot of people are saying the tummy flops out. Others are saying it's really low for that and could be seen as the horse the horse dick

is where you reach in to get the popcorn. You're not going to be better than anybody. I'm trying to see horse dick whenever I can and this ain't it. Yeah. It's more like if the horse had a kangaroo pouch. It's of what it feels like. Yeah, this marsupial equine monstrosity is,

I can't show this to my son. I can't show this just because it's not cool. It'll be disgusted. Also, so in addition to, you know, the crotch controversy, because the headline, Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey Uncorks a Trojan horse popcorn bucket that stores the goods in its crotch,

according to Fox News. That stores the goods in its storage. That stores the goods. Like, I do feel like maybe they're courting, the crotch controversy. Like, this is, the only way to make this not boring is by putting the popcorn, like, around that area. But then, like, make, like, a little tiny dick or something.

So, like, we're really going there. Right. It's too vague. I'm not buying. I don't even think they're leaning into me, like, dude, you're going to eat that of the horse's crutch. I think he's just, it's bad. I feel like, I do just think that at a certain point,

whoever is in the lab making these popcorn buckets is having the conversation of like look the most attention we ever got was for our dune dune yeah i want to fuck that sarlack pit looking sandworm thing in the mouth side of virality they know what they're doing so like they know what they're doing so um sickos is what i say i i do think this one's being a little bit overblown but i do think they put it where it is for a reason. Because it also doesn't make sense that it would be,

like the popcorn's all just going to come spilling out. Yeah, it's just like whatever. I guess maybe people are thinking about it as more collectibles if that's like what your thing is. But like, with Gladiator 2, it was like a Coliseum because they're like, it needs to hold fucking popcorn in it. Right. And like this scary movie popcorn bucket was like a brick cell phone.

Oh, really? on the side. But it still had like, it was tall and sort of had a cylindrical interior that it, in your mind, you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you can reach in for, even the fucking dune. Yeah. Popcorn, Dussie was also. Seemed like they were aware of how gravity works. Yeah. Whatever.

But as someone who has never bought one of these and is already shocked at what just a popcorn in a bag costs at a movie theater. Yeah, do you, man? If you need to pay fucking 40 bucks for this thing. I feel like the talk around these is like the way people talk about luxury bags where they're like, it's an investment, actually. I'm actually getting this as an investment. Yeah. You think it's actually going to go up in value. Not with all the grease on it.

No, probably not. But sure, sure. It's mint. It has old popcorn just sitting inside it. Oh, yes, yes, yes. I feel like also, too, from my reading of The Odyssey just in school, the Trojan horse wasn't the most memorable thing for me. Or like the most fun part of the book.

I don't think it even happens in the book. Yeah, I was going to say, right? It's not a scene in the book. It's like a thing that he asks people to like describe to him. But it's not a, I mean, I understand why they put it in. Like, it looks like it's going to be a great scene. I mean, it's the one, it's kind of the scene that they gave us unfiltered access to. in the trailer.

Wow. Hey, well, whatever it is, great. I'm a fucking cyclops purist. Yeah, you want that cyclops pop-corn? Dude, I want to rip this fucker's eye out and have popcorn inside. That's a good idea.

And maybe that's just something for me to work on. Just like a pus oozing eye. I didn't say that. Okay. But now that I think about it, it would be cool if maybe the pus could be like make butter, that it cries onto your popcorn.

Mm-hmm. We're just putting ideas out there. I got to talk to the engineer people because they're the ones who know how to get this done at cost. So, yeah. And finally, we have a couple reminders, a couple pieces of pop culture to remind us all how old we are. Now, I have a body that does that for me. Oh, did you see machine gun, speaking of that, do you see machine gun, Kelly? He did a stage dive and hurt his back all?

No. Because he's 30. He didn't even land on the ground. he just landed in a crowd in a crowd of people and was like, oh, my back, my back, my back.

Then like the next day, he's like, I fucked my backup. Something freaky guys. I'm, he's like, I can't even move. And it's just like the saddest little stage type he did.

I was like, bro, if, look, if you're smoking that much weed, you should do some weight training to. Get those back muscles fucking strong. We have notoriously bad backs.

Oh, uh, well, it's been in my experience. but yeah we are old our bodies aren't the only things that tell us because they're just two three things i just realized too uh Fiona apple's album title came out 30 years ago title title title t i d a l you know like criminal and stuff sleep to dream that that's 30 years old there's fuji's killing me softly album video came out about 30 years ago Jesus and then i saw this picture

The Romney and Michelle's high school reunion sequel is in production right now. That shit came out 29 years ago, 1997. And I'm like, what the fuck is going on? I don't like it. Kill me softly seems like a new song. Like I'm like, oh yeah, that's the one that they made after the one. Yeah, like, this is cool. Like, I didn't know they were kind of doing some Roberta Flack kind of thing.

Okay. Yeah. But yeah. It's a new look for the Fugis. The Romeo and Michelle, it's pretty much everyone's coming back. Like all the, like Alan Cumming, Janine Garofalo, Cameron Mannheim, who played Toby. They're all coming back. And then like he and Michael Key Rob, uh, Pheubel, Breck & Meyer, Patrick Warburton.

Breck. They're also in it. But I guess I just remember being a kid and like being confused when my dad, like, when I was a kid was like, oh shit. Jimmy Hendricks is, are you experienced 30th anniversary just came. out we got to go to tower records yeah i don't like to think about that i don't like to think about the fact that like when i was when these things were coming out the thing that was 30 years ago was like it was like pre-woodstock shit yeah literally it's yeah before the summer is 68 man yeah it was so anyway and i'm like i remember just as a kid i'm like bro what the fuck was even

happening 30 years ago well bullshit 30 years ago ancient might as well not exist so it happened as far as i'm concerned if i wasn't there it didn't happen. Yeah. Seeing these headlines is, or just, I feel like Beatrix in Kill Bill when she comes out of the coma

and looks at her, the lines on her palms. And I'm just going, 30 years. You just have all these, uh, getting older pop culture references. You've got Interstellar.

Interstellar. I got saving Private Ryan. Saving Private Ryan. Kill Bill in the bed, looking at your palms. Damn. These are the, like,

maybe says to me. Yeah. movie for you. My fear of mortality. Have you seen Awakenings? What was the last time you saw Awakening? Many years? Might be a fun one.

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