The Daily Zeitgeist - ACAB Includes Candy Buybacks, MAGA Campaign Abductees? 11.01.24

Episode Date: November 1, 2024

In episode 1769, Jack and Miles are joined by writer for Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, bestselling author, and co-host of Quick Question with Soren and Daniel, Daniel O'Brien, to discuss… MAGA... Boys Wondering Where Their Bros Are At With The Voting, Well If You’re Worried About Turnout THANK GOD FOR ELON, How Trump Will Try to Steal the Election If He Loses, Dentists’ Halloween Candy Buyback Programs Are Somehow Way Worse Than You Could Possibly Imagine and more! MAGA Boys Wondering Where Their Bros Are At With The Voting Well If You’re Worried About Turnout THANK GOD FOR ELON How Trump Will Try to Steal the Election If He Loses Good dental health and candy: The right choices for Halloween treats Dentists hold 17th annual candy buyback Cash For Halloween Candy? Dentists' Buyback Program Is Booming Halloween Candy Buyback 2024 FAQs The Halloween Candy Buy Back: A public relations grand slam! Halloween Buy Back Program We're Rebranding to Troopathon! Pro-Troop Charity Misleads Donors While Lining Political Consultants' Pockets Sal Russo: From establishment politics to the Tea Party Express Questions Linger about the Legitimacy and Purpose of “Move America Forward” Daniel's Recommendation: Follow Tina Friml! LISTEN: Nadja by Unknown Mortal OrchestraSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:38 Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 362, episode five of Darnadly's IK. A production of iHeart Radio. and welcome to season 362 episode five of Durnadly's IK! A production of I Heart Radio. We are America's only undecided podcast. Still trying to figure it out. This election's tricky. It's tricky, man.
Starting point is 00:03:56 He dressed as garbage man now. He did garbage man, and that's, I find that endearing. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Friday, November 1st, 2024. Yeah. The day we've all been waiting for. Waiting for.
Starting point is 00:04:13 All Saints. The All Hallows Eve behind us. It's All Hallows. It's Hallows Day. And it also is National Fountain Pen Day, Autistic Speaking speaking day national biologic coordinators day national cinnamon day national toothbrush day National Jersey Friday as in sporting Jersey, but also shout out the garden state of New Jersey National Palzone day national deep-fried clams day national cook for your pets day national family literacy day Right national down Thursday with the national vinegar day he shot out oil also but a
Starting point is 00:04:47 Why do our guests today author Jersey? Yep, you know, he's always wearing a basketball jersey Sure done. New Jersey. That's Jersey. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien aka watching old Bruce Willis Sammy Jack by his side My name is Jack O'Brien aka watchin old Bruce Willis Sammy Jack by his side They both die hard with a vengeance Jeremy Irons That is courtesy of Halcyon salad on the discord in reference to one of the two Movies that we talked about in this podcast for some reason. Yeah. Yeah, I guess the reason is those are the only two movies we've seen, Rocky IV, Die Hard III.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Classics. Yep. Anyway, shout out Halcyon, Salad. I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-hosts. It's Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray, yeah. I love Miles Gray. Do do do do do do do.
Starting point is 00:05:45 We love him. All right, shout out to the Los Angeles Dodgers who were victorious over the New York Yankees. And I must say as a native Angelino, I love being just, this is the best time that we've, anytime LA wins something, it's fantastic. Now, obviously the police came out in full force pretty much immediately in anticipation of the revelry and things went well.
Starting point is 00:06:06 They have to celebrate too by beating people up and arresting people. It's like, hey, you like to shoot boom booms. We do too. And they're not lethal ish. But anyway, what a game coming back from five zero down that fifth. That was at the fifth inning. That was just absolutely just turned the game upside down. It was fantastic to watch. I'm so happy. Shout out Shohei. You brought it along for a landing.
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Starting point is 00:07:03 Six, six, six, six, six. Co-host of the podcast, Quick Question with Soran and Daniel, please welcome, it's Daniel O'Brien. Daniel. Hello, what an introduction. What's up? I was really prepared to come in here with a planned bit of being consistently over the length of your AKAs, a problem I have had
Starting point is 00:07:26 with this podcast since the beginning. But then you said so many sweet things about me that I've completely abandoned that planned bit. And now I'm armed with no bits. Oh hey, well welcome. Great to have you. Bitless and that's just, we can get in there. This is gonna be like the Mark Maron podcast where, you know, drop, drop that, that stance, Dan, the comedic, you know, who let's get in there. Let's get out of the, the juicy insides. What makes you tick man. And also my AK was like really quick today and perfectly concise.
Starting point is 00:08:02 So, yeah, you could have done a four hours banger, but well. Yeah. I cut so much. It was actually supposed to be an Oasis medley about all the Die Hard films. Yeah. Oh boy. Yeah. Well, we had a wonder wall about Die Hard 4. Oh God. Live Free Die Hard.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Yeah. Live Free Die Hard, of course. How are you doing? What's new with you, Daniel? Four? Oh, God. Live free, die hard. Yeah, live free, die hard, of course. How are you doing? What's new with you, Daniel? I'm doing very well. I mean, I don't know why I'm saying I'm doing very well. I work at a political comedy show, as you mentioned, and we're just a few days away from an election.
Starting point is 00:08:39 So fun. Even though that's not a surprise, like we had this whole year, I mean, an argument could be made that we had several years to plan for this election. We are still running around headless chickens over here. We're still trying to, not that there's anything we can do to impact how anyone's going to vote or how this election is going to go, or not that there's any way we can like add further context to it we just all share the same level of anxiety that everyone else has where we record on Saturday for an episode that's gonna air on Sunday and then we are prepping a show that is
Starting point is 00:09:18 going to record the week of the election so a few days after it, and trying to prepare for what we can talk about when we truly have no information right now. Real sliding doors moment. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's a historical text, the Gwyneth Paltrow film, Sliding Doors. But Daniel, we are going to be recording an episode on election day that will come recording an episode on election day. Wow. We'll come out the day after.
Starting point is 00:09:48 So we had a hour long meeting yesterday being like, what the fuck are we doing? Like, how do you do that? I think we just record two kinds of episodes and was just, you know, choose, choose your own adventure. And when it times, when it's time to publish. Nah, we're just going to do some bullshit. I think just a election-free episode. You guys should try that.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Just like do something about funny video clips. Can you bring Cheetan back? I would maybe. I would love that so much. Just be like, something hot, look, we don't know what's going on, but let's enjoy this time where we don't know. We have one TV in the office that we all huddle around. That TV broke, so we don't know. We have one TV in the office that we all huddle around. That TV broke.
Starting point is 00:10:25 So we don't know what happened in the news this week. So we're just gonna sort of, has anyone seen Saturday night? We wanna talk about that. That's the thing we're gonna talk about. There you go. All right, well, we are gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
Starting point is 00:10:37 First, we're gonna tell the listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We are gonna talk about the election. And this has just been sprung on me, but yeah, apparently there's election news. There's some questions around turnout, whether, whether the boy is going to turn out for Donald Trump. The boy's not turning out so far in the early vote and people are scared.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Some people are asking whether it has anything to do with Trump's ground game, which is, uh, bad. Like, I'm, I'm hoping it's as bad as it seems like it would be. So we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about, again, we'll, we'll do a little look, look at the stakes because, uh, Trump has claimed that he wants to let RFK jr. Go wild on medicines.
Starting point is 00:11:24 What, if he's elected, that's Jr. go wild on medicines if he's elected. Yeah, go literal. That's a direct word, go wild on medicines. Okay. We'll talk about that. We might talk about what Trump will do if he loses. We will definitely talk about, it's November 1st, it's the day after Halloween. This is the season of the dentist Halloween candy buyback program.
Starting point is 00:11:45 And that surprisingly is going to be the darkest story of the day. Because holy shit, our writer, J.M. McNabb dug into this and it's fucked. It's like so, I guess we shouldn't be surprised at this point that like you dig it, dig into any American institution and there's a coin flip of a chance that it's going to be super fucked up. This one is, so we'll talk about that plenty more, but first Daniel O'Brien, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Jack O'Brien net worth. And what are we, what are we coming back with? See here's here's what's an unfortunate bummer about this is that I
Starting point is 00:12:31 thought it would be lots of fun to be to have that be my recent Google search because that used to be a really fun thing to do like celebrity net worth is exactly what it sounds like it collects net worth of celebrities using who knows what methods in the past. No one's been able to really define exactly how they come across their numbers. But it was like I as a public personality from Cracked and Writing Books and I last week tonight, I was searchable on that site. And there was some either AI or freelance writer who had just sort of decided what my net worth was and it was a fun game to play for to see what some random writer somewhere comes up. And it was always way off based on nothing. And I thought this would be a fun way to kick off
Starting point is 00:13:27 the episode to see what AI or some child writer thinks Jack O'Brien's net worth is. But celebrity net worth has changed drastically over the years. It's not the free for all that it used to be. You used to be able to find almost anyone of dubious notoriety there. And now they've really cleaned it up. And I did some digging. And it is, this is like,
Starting point is 00:13:52 you're seeing an episode of last week tonight get workshopped in real time in a nutshell, start with a fun thing and then uncover a sad dark thing. And the sad dark thing is that like, Google, as Google has decided to crush every website on the internet that is not Google. This is like a big tech tech antitrust thing. People used to search solar net worths and get directed to celebrity net worth dot com and spend time on that site. Google had started taking the information from that website and putting it right on
Starting point is 00:14:24 the Google search results. Yeah, got to. So you wouldn't go to Celebrity Net Worth anymore. At one point in 2014, Google asked the founder of Celebrity Net Worth, hey, can I do this? Can we start like scrubbing your website and putting it in search results so people get the information they want
Starting point is 00:14:41 and never have to leave Google? Isn't that great news for the user? And the owner of Celebrity Net Worth was like, yeah, that's great news for the user. But it's like, fuck news for me. I need people that's so bad to go to my website so I can get money from ads from you, Google. I need to sell my ads already. You're already taking such a massive cut.
Starting point is 00:15:03 They're like, yeah, but what if it was all our money? You know? What if we, yeah. Exactly. We're having this meeting here in Google and we're like, what if, what if it was all our money? Who can we get rid of? And so the guy said, no, you can't scrub my website. And then Google did it anyway. And between like 2014 and now it looks like traffic to celebrity net worth has gone down 80% and I think as a long time fan of celebrity net worth.com you can really see that the quality has has suffered because of this huge loss thanks to Google. I mean just so did you get any kind of answer
Starting point is 00:15:42 for the network question? No. I did ask Chad GPT just now. Oh, let's hear it. What AI said. Jack O'Brien, co-host of The Daily Zeitgeist, and former creative director at House of Forks, has an estimated net worth of approximately $2 million. His wealth has come from extensive work in digital media.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Daniel O'Brien, known for his work as a writer and comedian with Cracked, and as a writer for last week tonight with John Oliver Has an estimated net worth of around 315 thousand dollars. Wow On Daniel and I got 75 million for myself That I'm a famous. Well, okay. It's it's the theater director. There's the other one. Yeah Yeah, the other one but I don't know I like hopefully people don't do research too good or it confuses the AI and they
Starting point is 00:16:28 think I'm more $75 million. That would be pretty cool. Yeah. Wow. 315 K is just so oddly specific. Yeah. You know, so I got, uh, from wall mine, I've got that's made a net worth of, Oh, that's Daniel F O'Brien.
Starting point is 00:16:44 And then it says Mr. Brian owns. Yeah. estimated net worth of, oh, that's Daniel F O'Brien. And then it says Mr. Brian owns. Yeah, this is the, uh, it says on the Jack O'Brien net worth page, it says Jack O'Brien is a member of director. So I don't know how good it feels like. Uh, maybe the internet is broken. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Accurate. Anyway, it's it.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Yeah. I searched mine. It said who that's actually what chat no, no. Acura anyway, it's it. Yeah, I searched mine. It said who? That's actually what chat GPT said, and I'm kind of fucking pit. That's why I don't fuck with. That's why I think it's bullshit. Like, what is it? No. Jack O'Brien is not doing too well.
Starting point is 00:17:16 You should reach out to him and see how he's doing. That's the network. Thank you. What is something you think is underrated? Ding. This is going toachiVD, thank you. What is something you think is underrated? Dang. This is gonna sound very basic, but seasons. And I'm sure let's come up on the podcast before. It's coming up for me. I live in New Jersey on the Jersey shore.
Starting point is 00:17:35 It is, as we record Halloween, it's very spooky, October 31st. It is 80 fucking degrees outside right now. Wow. And there's a lot of like global warming hand-wringing to be done about that because this is just like fundamentally not the way that temperatures are supposed to go this time of year. And sure, I agree with all those reasons. It's bad that we're killing the world.
Starting point is 00:17:58 But also very specifically to me, seasons are important. We have already taken the fall decorations and clothing out of storage and are ready to move the summer decorations into storage, but we can't right now because the weather is being so ridiculous and it's just turned my entire closet topsy turvy and I don't know what to do with myself. Think of the closets, yeah. Think of the closets, the fossil fuel industry. Yeah, please, please. I love seasons just because growing up in LA, we only have like two seasons,
Starting point is 00:18:32 like hot and not as hot. So I like wearing sleeves. I like hoods, jackets, pants and the like, but yeah, seasons. I do too. And on a day like today, it's hard not to think back to my childhood trick or treating in New Jersey
Starting point is 00:18:49 and how grateful you were for the temperature to drop a bit so you're not walking around in like full WCW sting makeup in 80 degrees, rubbing a pillowcase of melting chocolate on your shoulder. It would just be a nightmare. I will say it's a little chilly. It was a little chilly here this morning, so it's not global warming.
Starting point is 00:19:10 I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, okay. Yeah, so we're good there. What's something you think is overrated? Something that I think is overrated is the, I'm so sorry for being so Halloween-focused, the sophistication and growth of the consumer-grade Halloween decoration market, I'm over it. I think there there was a time when the the house in the neighborhood that went
Starting point is 00:19:30 all out for Halloween decorations was special. There was something meaningful to that. You could tell it was someone who spent a lot of time. This is this isn't like. I'm not saying that only wealthy people should be allowed to decorate for Halloween. But please don't edit this to make it seem like I'm saying that. They can afford the better shit. Yes, thank you. We would we would do like handmade homemade decorations it was a big like
Starting point is 00:19:56 Halloween tradition for us to make tombstones out of like styrofoam and paint them and then come up with funny things to write on the tombstones and that would be like a family activity and a cool like point of pride, this decorations that we did. And now I feel like the market for Halloween decorations has exploded. It's so much cheaper and so much easier to get really terrifying and cool looking decorations that everyone has them everywhere and I don't care for it. Oh like as it like nothing special anymore because nothing special anymore. It's so widely available I get that. Just 12 foot skeletons as far as the
Starting point is 00:20:34 eyes can I can see. Oh yeah there's there's a spot in my neighborhood someone had three 12 foot like different figures just cramped in their yard and it felt like oh yeah like we get it. I've been noticing a lot of Halloween decoration cramping as well. Like, especially with the inflatables, like the inflatables, just inflatables everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I guess those things are a little bigger once you get them out of the box, the inflatables
Starting point is 00:21:00 because they are, yeah, shoulder to shoulder and some of these front yards. My 12 foot, which is in my front yard right now. We are recording this on Halloween in my front yard, just reading people for filth. I turned the volume back up on her because I had turned her down because one of my friend's three-year-old children got really scared of her. He sent me a video of his son crying from, so I turned the volume down on her, turned it back up for Halloween and it, the writing is just so fucking bad on the
Starting point is 00:21:35 things she says. Like she has a little sensor when she walks, when you walk by, she'll like say something, but it's like this long meandering. It's like, how am I flying? You ask? Well, that's a good question. And then you're like wanting to walk away from her. Wait, wait, where are you going?
Starting point is 00:21:54 A person at a party. You're like, pull up a chair. I used to date Orson Welles. Okay. Okay. Uh, should we take a break and come back and talk about the election? It's coming up and it's a fun one. It's a real coin flip. What drama, what excitement.
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Starting point is 00:27:15 Yes. And I apologize if it sounded like I was inside your ear. I have trouble with mic discipline, but to be fair, we've only been doing this show for seven years. Let's talk about the news. Yeah, yeah. There's a few stats from the early vote that has clearly caught the attention of the MAGA crowd. A political analysis of early vote data in battleground states said there's a two point
Starting point is 00:27:40 or ten point gender gap in early voting with women comprising 55% of those who had cast ballots. Nationwide early voting data showed that on Thursday, but just today as we record, of roughly 58 million mail in and early in person votes cast across the country, 54% came from women. So this is for the MAGA crowd. They're like, oh no, like have they been hearing what Donald Trump says? Could this be a bad thing? Now, this is probably good news for the Harris campaign,
Starting point is 00:28:09 although it's entirely possible that a significant portion of that early vote is also for Trump considering the campaign's recent emphasis on early voting. So like the last presidential election, less than a quarter of mail-in ballots came from Republicans in this cycle. It's up to a third. But again, it's all about turnout. It's all about whatever you have to say to get people out.
Starting point is 00:28:29 But the way they're communicating it is sort of like the Mike Cernovichs and Charlie Kirks of the world are like, where my bros at, man? We need you guys. If we're gonna get Trump over the line, if these ladies get out, we're crushed. Cernovich said, quote, mail turnout in Pennsylvania for Trump has been a disaster.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Unless this changes, Kamala Harris takes Pennsylvania and it's over. Charlie Kirk, early vote has been disproportionately female. If men stay at home, Kamala is president. It's that simple. Pull, pull, pull. So I think the other thing that they're really reacting to, I don't know, have you guys seen that Kamala Harris ad that's like narrated by Julia Roberts where like a woman goes to the polls with like the clearly like a Maga coded couple. And when the woman goes to the voting booth, she's like, I'm going to actually
Starting point is 00:29:16 vote for Kamala and Tim Walz. And then when she goes back to her husband, he's like, did you vote honey? If they make the right choice. And she's like, yes, I did. And she like winks at another woman at the polling place. And she turns back to the camera and she has thriller eyes. So yeah, this has been like, this is, this has caused, um, I'll just play a clip of Charlie Kirk, just, he was on, uh, making Kelly's show, just talking about how this ad is like undermining
Starting point is 00:29:48 the modern mayor. I don't know. Look, just let this list, listen to this. It is the embodiment of the downfall of the American family. I think it's so gross. I think it's so just nauseating where this wife is wearing the, you'll show it, wearing the American hat. She's coming in with her sweet husband
Starting point is 00:30:04 who probably works his tail off, make sure that she can go, you know, and have a nice life and provide to the family. And then she lies to him saying, oh yeah, I'm going to vote for Trump. And then she votes for Kamala Harris as her little secret in the voting booth. Kamala Harris and her team believe that there'll be millions of women that undermine their husbands and do so in a way that it's not detectable in the polling. And she needs people to basically- Okay, that was the end of the clip.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Yeah. Undermine their husbands again. By voting for who you want to vote for and not sharing that information if your husband is really awful and like demands that you vote for the same person as him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A healthy marriage. I was trying to find the exact link for this. But did you guys
Starting point is 00:30:46 see Jesse Waters talking about this also? Oh, yeah. You want to hear that? I'd love to. Great. Hey, baby, if there's one thing I'm good for, it's having the outrage links loaded up. This is Jesse Waters being like, this is an executable offense. And if I found out Emma was going into the voting booth and pulling the lever for Harris, that's the same thing as having an affair.
Starting point is 00:31:10 That's me. He's like laughing. He's doing this. Yeah. Go, Jessie. It's our day. It's our day, Judge. That violates the sanctity of our marriage.
Starting point is 00:31:20 What else is she keeping from me? Exactly. What else has she been lying about? Why would she lie to you? Have you threatened her? Why would she lie to you? Have you threatened her? Why would she lie to you? I like how Janine Pirro's somehow kind of
Starting point is 00:31:31 like on the side of reason. She's like, well, why would this happen? What's happening in your relationship? Are you a monster? Even attempting to engage with the bit in good faith, just trying to yes and it, leading to a complete dead end. Yeah. Completely, completely. I mean, yeah, I think this is just all a part of everyone's maybe motivational,
Starting point is 00:31:58 the toolkit that they're using for turnout. Yeah. That's how I'm reading it is just, the of the two decisions that people make when voting. The first is whether to vote at all. And that's like a huge factor as to who's going to win. So this feels like a good story for them to be publicizing as it's now possible. For everybody to vote, basically, I voted yesterday and I will, you know, Andrew T, friend of the show,
Starting point is 00:32:28 Andrew T was on the show and talking about how once, one reason to vote early is once you vote, they stop texting you. I've received a text since I voted and it was like, hey, did you just vote? And that's it. So I highly recommend. I voted every single day this week. I'm gonna do it again tomorrow. It's it. So I highly recommend. I voted every single day this week. I'm going to do it again tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:32:47 It's fun. See, I got a bunch of light. We're returning the favor to them to give them something they can exert and put on their show. Yeah, there's always like, I mean, because it's the same thing if you if you have texts from the Democratic Party, like about the it's always like, we're getting fucked over in Pennsylvania. I need $700,000 or Trump is going to rip our heads off. So everyone has their version of, you know, shitting the bed, uh, rhetorically to get people, you know, out to vote. But I think that brings us to the other part of, uh, uh, uh, campaign, which is getting out the vote. It's we are on the precipice of Geo TV weekend
Starting point is 00:33:27 where, you know, there's a lot of effort to get everybody to the polls. And a couple of weeks ago, we talked about a story where these people that were hired by Elon's America Pack to do door-to-door canvassing for Trump were basically like faking all of their work. They just found a way to like spoof the results and make it look like they were
Starting point is 00:33:45 actually going door to door and just be like, yeah, and then I got my check. Now, was it because they were all secret libs? I mean, I see secret libs all around me at all times. I exactly, you know, I was at a secret lib coffee shop and I overheard this. You won't believe it. Um, my wife does is off. I'm just looking at her with narrowed eyes, being like, is she a secret lady? Secret lady?
Starting point is 00:34:06 She got a vote for Harris? Without telling me? So it turns out that these people who are phoning it in might just be reacting to the fucked up working conditions, because there's a new article in Wired magazine. No! Yeah. Yes, Jack. I'm sorry to say.
Starting point is 00:34:23 But this is Elon Musk we're talking about. I know, I know. Tech industry somehow. Who's subcontracting and then they find other people to bring in. This is just from like the second paragraph in this article. Quote, in Michigan, canvassers and paid door knockers for the former president contracted by a firm associated with America Pac have been subjected to poor working conditions. A number of them have been driven around in the back of a seatless U haul van, according to video obtained by wired and threatened that
Starting point is 00:34:49 they're lodging at a local motel, would it be paid for if they didn't meet canvassing quotas? One door knocker alleges that they didn't even know they were signing up for anything having to do with Musk or Trump. And that was until they signed an NDA. So yeah, it's the picture of these people. It looks it looks like these people are being kidnapped. Like when you So, yeah, it's the picture of these people. It looks, it looks like these people are being kidnapped. Like when you see a bunch of people in the back of a seatless van, like
Starting point is 00:35:10 that's like an illegal thing that the police do to people as like, yes, sure, sure. Absolutely. But this is also, this is how, you know, the America pack is doing their canvassing again, any normal campaign with like a functioning field operation, you have like a network of field offices, staff and you know, battleground states to make sure you get your proper voter turnout. But I think a lot of this can be traced directly back to Trump installing his daughter-in-law
Starting point is 00:35:39 as like a vassal dictator at the RNC, where she basically got rid of anyone who may have had any experience here in the name of saving money. And because the whole thing was, yeah, they had to use all the funds of the RNC to be like a Trump legal slush fund. So you know, who knows? So that means now all the work of the field, the field work and ground game stuff is being done by inexperienced Trump allies like Musk. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:11 I wasn't like too excited about the early voting numbers because it's just like, we've just seen like early trends or like, you know, straw polls or, you know, uh, exit polls tell us very misleading things in elections, but the idea that there could be a world where all of the stuff that he's been doing that plainly looks like just corrupt, bad practices could actually come back and have consequences on him does warm my heart. Oh, it does thaw my frozen heart a tiny bit. Sure. Sure. Would love to see it, even though I'm still undecided. Would love to see, see consequences for his campaign specifically, or because I, as much like secondhand joy as I experienced from, from seeing every report that is like this,
Starting point is 00:37:00 Elon Musk is running like historically the worst ground game in the history of politics. As much as I enjoy that, I don't know election wise if that's going to swing anything like even him doing a bad job is not the kind of thing that I think is going to like sway undecided voters should they still be out there. Like no one is waiting to see like, what's that? He drove them around in a U-Haul. Well, if that's the kind of man Trump hires for his ground game, then I can't trust him with that. I don't think the story is going to have impact on who people vote for. I guess I'm trusting
Starting point is 00:37:36 in some like magical boots on the ground, electioneering thing that I've always heard actually matters in politics. And I have to assume it does because they put so much fucking money and effort into it. But I don't know. It is, of course, being reported by the same people who are like, and that's why the Democratic Party should continue moving to the right and triangulating forever and ever. They figured it out. Yeah. I think, I mean, the negative is going to be that potentially it does, like they don't reach the people who are only like half-assed about MAGA stuff that they might get to the polls. So there is that. But again, I don't know if it matters because I think plan A for Trump just seems to be to steal the fucking election. It's
Starting point is 00:38:22 not based on the performances he's given as a candidate, based on everything you're reading about how it's operating and everything that's happening behind the scenes. They seem more invested in a different kind of, I guess we'll call it a non-traditional type of win. Yeah. I have another question for you guys, if that's all right. Yes. I'm going to describe everything I say stays between us, right? Yeah, totally. Yeah. Close to the phone call. You guys have to let me know if I'm guilty of an election crime because all these stories
Starting point is 00:38:53 had me flashing back to my sophomore year of college where we were looking for money anywhere we could. And then we found out that John Corzine, who was running for governor of New Jersey as a Democrat at the time, I believe, would pay people $75 a person if they would go around and knock on doors. And we were picked up in a bus and dropped off in neighborhood and went around knocking on doors, just telling people to vote.
Starting point is 00:39:17 We were explicitly told, don't tell people to vote for Corzine, just like knock on these doors for a certain amount of hours and tell people, Hey, have you voted? Here's your polling. Here's your voting place. If you haven't voted, if you have great, have a good day. And then a bus will pick you up at the end of the night and you will go home. And then you will take those $75 and use them to buy, uh, weed and sandwiches. I think was not like an official directive, but you're giving $75 to a college sophomore is that, is that nor a college sophomore. Is that legal?
Starting point is 00:39:46 Is that okay? Yeah, yeah. So what probably happened was like a dark money group is the one doing the paying of you guys. And the reason you can't advocate, cause they were probably trying to do it on the level way where you can't direct something, depending on the nonprofit, like the way it's structured,
Starting point is 00:40:03 you can't directly advocate for a candidate, but they probably put you in an area where it was mostly people that were gonna vote for Corzine. So you didn't really have to be persuasive more so just to like motivate people. And then like, no, we're nonpartisan, we're nonpartisan. We're just reminding people.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So no, you're fine, you're fine. I did that for years. I did that for years. I did that for a year. I did that for a year. I did that for a year. I did that for a year. I fine, you're fine. I did that for years. I did that for years. Did you have a big million dollar novelty check that you dangled in front of people and said, hey, this could be yours? They very smartly, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:33 All right, so the whole Trump stealing the election of it all, we've covered like some specific, there's been his claims of fraud on social media. There's been a physical destruction of ballots by at least one Republican Trump supporter. In the case of a narrow Harris victory, I've seen some takes that like, oh, we have nothing to worry about because they've made it. So the electors can't be thrown out this time. Like the thing that they wanted Mike Pence to do, they can't do that.
Starting point is 00:41:11 But I don't know, like that was just one thing they tried last time when they didn't really know what the fuck they were doing and Trump didn't have the support of the entire Republican party to steal the election this time. He's had four years to plan. He's consolidated power in Congress and like allegiance and loyalty in Congress and with the Supreme court, it seems. So like the, the one scenario I can't foresee is Trump losing a close one. And it seems like it's going to be close and admitting defeat.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Like that's the only, that's the only thing that I think we can just be like, that's definitely not going to happen. Can I put money on that? Yes, he is. He is never in the history of time, uh, conceded defeat on an election. He is lost even like the one primary he lost to Ted Cruz. He didn't say that was fair and square. Like that is completely out the window.
Starting point is 00:42:07 The idea of him, first of all, gracefully doing anything. And second of all, gracefully conceding is just, you know, you want to say if there's a landslide, he'll concede, but even then I don't think it would do it. I think the, the, the options are he loses narrowly and says it's rigged. He loses big and says it's rigged. He loses. He wins and says it's rigged. But we still we want to still want to. Which is what he did in the in the Clinton in 2016.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Yeah, they could never once not said that an election he was involved in wasn't rigged. I'm pretty sure like he's never conceded defeat in an argument, like in a conversation. No, unless he has some kind of neurological event where it's like, whoa, is he okay? He fucking said, I'm tired, guys. I'm tired. It's over. But yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:01 There's a Vox article talking about like some of the official channels they could go through in order to steal a close election if Republicans hold the house Speaker Mike Johnson could try to interfere with certifying the results and obviously Trump recently made the public statement that he and Mike Johnson Got another little secret secret thing. There's so many secret things. There are so many like, you almost long for the simplicity of his attempts to overturn the last election because there was like an A to B straight line of like, you were my vice president and you worked for me and I'm telling you throw out the votes or calling up Secretary of State in Georgia and saying, find votes for me. That kind of stuff was like so clear.
Starting point is 00:43:46 And now some of the stuff that has happened and it, it, it makes opposing Trump very difficult and frustrating. It makes supporting him very funny and fascinating to me because one of the major changes that we covered on our show that's, that's happened in the last four years is that the, like one county of electors, like the elections board in one county in Georgia has been like majority stocked with Trump sycophants who truly believe the last election was stolen. And they are, are like, like big cheerleaders for him and the steel.
Starting point is 00:44:22 And it's, it's scary that there's a bunch of people who think the system is rigged, who are now in charge of whether or not certain votes not necessarily get counted, but like triggers different other, yeah, how they get counted. And it's a fascinating thing to watch as someone like you guys and like myself,
Starting point is 00:44:40 we have to watch a lot of Trump videos all the time. The difference between like nine years ago, Trump, where he comes out and he's got very simple ringleader message. It's it's wrong headed, but it's compelling. It's like, they're a bad guys are coming into this country. I'm going to build a wall and it's going to be free. And his fans go nuts because they love that message. And now you see him at rallies when he's campaigning in Georgia.
Starting point is 00:45:05 And he's like, we need to win this election. We've got some great new members of this five person board of elections in Fulton County, Georgia, and they created a beautiful new rule that requires a hand count by three different people and if they find any discrepancies, why that triggers a different rule and like all of his fans at the rallies are like, wait, wait, wait, this is, I liked it so much more when it was the wall and now there are all these other things that I need to be, I need to be such a policy wonk to be a Trump supporter now.
Starting point is 00:45:34 That was one of the things that underperformed in the 2022 election. It remains to be seen if it will underperform like with him actually running the message. But like all the candidates who were on the stop the steal shit, like people seemed to just be like, I don't know, man. Like, can we like, yeah, it's like a lot of technicalities and like bullshit that you have to like, it's a lot of homework to ask people to do. And because it's a dumb bullshit conspiracy theory, it's like a bunch of, like when you talk to a conspiracy theorist, it gets really exhausting quickly because they're like, ask you to learn 30 different people's names.
Starting point is 00:46:16 You know, like the JFK conspiracy theorists are, you know, and that's when you get this CIA agent who was sheep dipped to be. All right. Like I can't, I can't do this anymore. So I'm, I'm hoping that that is again, like he's kind of over leveraged in his messaging in that direction. Well, yeah. I mean, I think the one thing that's consistent is at the very least setting
Starting point is 00:46:41 the X-beck, cause if it is a blow a blowout, the MAGA side is prepared to think it's not supposed to be a blowout. So like, no matter the outcome, they have been inoculating them against accepting reality. It's purely, the expectations are high. That's the one thing I found really curious is like, that weird like betting market, the polymarket shit that like people can like bet on the outcome of the election and how right now a lot of the money is on Trump.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Part of that also feels like this is like another dimension of a potential scam where a lot of people are going to pull a bunch like they're putting a ton of money on Trump to have a lot of people bet on Trump, but then bet the opposite. And get because you see tweets are people like, I'm going to win $400 when Trump wins the election. Like people are looking at those odds and like, this is great. Like I'm gonna make all this money. That there's also like a fleecing of people that could also be happening based on like the skewed betting markets. There's just a lot of weird expectation,
Starting point is 00:47:38 I think from every angle. But yeah, the, I don't, yeah. I do not expect anything to be peaceful or not chaotic. No. Yeah. I just, I don't know. It really is just his belligerence is going to be there. I think there's going to be, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:55 It seems like he's going to be pushing for violence if he loses. If he wins, he'll also be pushing for violence and I'll have the U S military at his disposal, but if he loses, like I just, I don't see a scenario where like he and Elon Musk go, like Elon Musk is going to continue to own Twitter and you know, it's going to be, it just feels like I, like, I'm not going to say we're sleepwalking into a disaster because I think a lot of people like recognize this is what's happening, but there's just like nothing to be done about it. There's just like no option that isn't a complete fucking nightmare after this election based
Starting point is 00:48:40 on, you know, how, who he is and like institutionally institutionally how he's situated. The one hopeful note I've seen people is like, well, when you talk to and pull individual mega supporters, they seem like they're going to be more resigned than willing to take up arms this time around. And maybe a lot of the people who were the most extreme are just like, are in jail right now for January the 6th. But that's, I don't know. I don't like any plan where it's like, and then we rely on the goodwill of the Trump supporters.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Right. You know, cooler heads to prevail. Right. Fun fact, January 6th, this guy's birthday. Happy birthday. That's right. It's a lot of fun. It's every year on my birthday now. I get phone calls from family members who say happy birthday and then give any phone call enough time. You got a family member who will say, gosh I still remember I was watching the news. I'm like, yep, all right, we've reached that part of my birthday. Yep. Yep. And that's what you do stand by your statement that that's why you were down in DC that day was Celebrating your birthday with your friends and you just look at swept along with them up Some people go to bars for their birthday. I thought no, what do I want for my birthday? I want to take in some culture
Starting point is 00:50:01 I want to visit our nation's capital. Yeah. And be wild. Yeah. Have fun, let loose, dress up. Yeah, and it's just, since then you're like, you realize like, oh, January 6th just is the day on our governmental calendar for the counting and certification of electoral votes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Hey man, happy birthday. Happy early birthday, buddy. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about Halloween candy buyback programs. We'll be right back. Boy. Hey everyone, it's Jay Shetty and I am so excited to let you know that my latest podcast interview is with the one and only Tom Hanks.
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Starting point is 00:55:29 And it's the day after Halloween. And I mean, not as you listen to this, as you listen to this, it's the day after Halloween, you might hear a little handy, the spookiness in our voice because it's still Halloween where, where we are, But we're coming to you from the distant past 24 hours ago. Dentists all over the country are offering to buy back Halloween candy in their continuing effort to be not fun, to make kids' lives shitty. So beginning on November 1st, children can forfeit the bags of candy they worked so hard for in exchange for cold hard cash, which they're probably just going to use to buy candy. It will prepare them for the crypto markets of the future.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Just a terrible fucking deal. They're offering one dollar a pound of candy. That sucks. Is that good? That feels low. That's like a lowball candy. That, that's good. That feels low. That's like a low ball effort. Oh yeah. Like that's so the in terms of like how much I feel like you need an hour to collect a
Starting point is 00:56:34 pound of candy. I mean, unless you just steal shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Unless you're just knocking knocking. Oh, just take one. Nice try asshole.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Sorry. I don't care if you have a ring one. Nice try, asshole. Sorry. I don't care if you have a ring camera. I'm pathetic. But, yeah, so this began in the early 2000s. By 2014, more than 2,500 dentists and orthodontists had signed up to participate. And so about 300 were participating in 2007, by 2014 but and love the expanse I just there's something just that the the title of a candy buyback
Starting point is 00:57:11 Program when we have such it like we associate buyback programs with guns with guns You know what I mean, and they're like no no no the candy buyback program They're like fuck and like what about about actual issues that hurt Like is that something that somebody could do like has anybody tried to do like a private gun buyback? grab and be like, fuck man, like what about, what about actual issues that hurt? Like the ills of this brand? Is that something that somebody could do? Like has anybody tried to do like a private gun buyback? I guess that would just be like a gun store. Right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:57:33 I guess anybody could, yeah. I'll give you a dollar a pound per gun. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, you're probably wondering what happens to the candy. I actually wasn't, I assume they just threw it out. But no, it actually gets sent directly to the US military.
Starting point is 00:57:49 The dentist behind this idea, Dr. Chris Kammer with a K, bragged that he didn't want to improve kids' dental hygiene so much as he wanted to send Halloween treats to our troops to let them know we appreciate them, and as a thank you for serving to keep us safe. Uh, this was in 2005. Just a hall of fame stands for a dentist to take. I don't give a shit about teeth. This is about the troops.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Yeah, fuck your kids' teeth. Tricking your kids into supporting the troops. This was in 2005. So kind of height of war on terror invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. So the modern version of the buyback similarly has Dennis working with existing Halloween candy buyback organizations, offering kids as little as a dollar a year for their candy and selling it to US soldiers or sending it to US soldiers instead. And as an old ABC News segment about the trend noted, the troops give most of the candy away to local children to build relationships.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Now, if you just turn your brain off right there, just turn it off. It's fine. That's fine. They're giving the candy away to kids who probably don't have candy. It's a happy story. Don't go deeper. Stop thinking.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Stop reading the story, Jack. You can find Jack on Twitter at Jack O'Brien. So the candy was really being rerouted to the Middle East to help an invading army ingratiate themselves. The local children is another way of saying the thing that we just said. And that like, it's just what the practice of American soldiers distributing candy to kids has so many tragic implications, tragic outcomes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Just any time these local kids are drawn in to be around soldiers who are, A, being targeted by people. And like, so there have been bombings at like places where a bunch of children were gathered around to get candy. And there have been like in the cases of some of the worst atrocities carried out by us troops, they used candy to like draw kids in. And like, if you want to read details that will ruin your fucking month, you can go more into a third platoon and striker vehicle with a Y, but it's, it's fucking awful.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Yeah. It's like, cause it's again, we don't know how this candy is used, but when you know that these are like the practice of giving candy and this is one of the Organizations would be like and here's how they get their candy. Yeah, it's hard to kind of be like, oh god Yeah, the more yeah, there's no evidence that the specific candy in the horrific Atrocities came from kids Halloween trade-ins, but it's pretty clear
Starting point is 01:00:42 We shouldn't normalize occupying forces, distributing candy to children. The organization that the Halloween candy buyback works with is also really shitty. It's called Troopathon. And that's a good name. Again, let's just stop there. Troopathon sounds fun. Yeah. They could be a little bit cute.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Yeah. A little bit fun. Is it a marathon? You know, like a marathon for the troops. Oh, okay. Great miles supporting the troops is not a sprint. It's a troop a thong. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. It's like a dance marathon where you have to stay up for 24 hours, trooping the entire time. You just got to sometimes people die from exhaustion, but it doesn't matter. Anyways, they used to be called Move America Forward, and the driving force behind Move America Forward was Sal Russo, the founder of the Tea Party Express.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Oh, wow. Love that. Yeah. So, and a 2014 ProPublica investigation into Move America Forward suggested that they mislead donors and provide false information about donations, like they claimed that they mislead donors and provide false information about donations like they claimed that they were sending care packages to a Marine battalion that was not on the continent they claimed they were sending the care packages to. They also used images from veterans without their permission, falsely claimed to have a partnership
Starting point is 01:02:00 with Walter Reed Medical Center that they did not. Jesus. In scammers. And so the charity donations, the monetary charity donations that they were supposedly sending to the troops for the Troop-a-thon of American support were actually being used to subsidize three conservative political action committees, according to ProPublica. And the organization denied those allegations. We're like, we're not changing shit. We have, we don't have anything to be apologizing for or ashamed of. And then they promptly changed their name to Troopathon. So, yeah. This is so funny. It's such a, I mean, like this, this all falls into the right wing grift. Like,
Starting point is 01:02:41 it's like, no, we care about the troops and we don't, we don't, we don't. But we know you might now give me your money and I can use it for something else. But yeah, I mean, it must, it's probably so opaque too for people who donate their money to even understand how, what the outcome is of their donation. So it's probably like the second, like, I don't know. It's for the troops. And that's enough for me.
Starting point is 01:03:03 I do wonder, this is such a silly thought that I'll need to spend more time on if including America in the the name of whatever your your organization is if that's completely gone the other way at this point in terms of convincing people that you're doing the right thing I don't know if this is MAGA or is something else, but just hearing the name moving America forward. Yeah. It's like, ah, what are you fucking up to? Fucking. Yeah, yeah. 100 percent. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Forward wear. But yeah, it's really it's not been great for the brand, for the American brand. I'm going to say it, guys. I think it has been bad for the brand. Persia. Oh, OK. Yeah. Take a phone. I'm a little it guys. I think Mag has been bad for the brand personally. Wow, okay. Yeah. Hot take-a-thon. I'm a little weird like that. Yeah, I mean, it's like, again,
Starting point is 01:03:51 I think there's just something so grim, even hearing about the idea of a candy buyback program, even without all these other details, I'm still like, huh? This feels odd. It feels strange. And I feel like there's so many other ways, if it's truly about like dental health, a lot better ways to do that than to be like, huh, this feels odd. It feels strange. And I feel like there's so many other ways if it's truly about like dental health, a lot better ways to do that than to be like, yeah, give
Starting point is 01:04:09 us your candy for some for very low return. I really liked the idea of it when I was not investigating it whatsoever. Like this was a thing that for the last couple of years, as someone who, I mean my last place I had, I lived in a neighborhood where you got a lot of kid trick-or-treaters and then I ended up with a lot of candy afterwards. It was really great cover for me. Whenever I would talk to other adults who had too much candy I would be like, well you know there's this great organization that lets you buy back
Starting point is 01:04:40 candy and it sends the candy to the troops. That was a thing that I never had to investigate, A, because it seemed harmless enough. It didn't, they, a lot of the early messaging didn't include that the troops were giving it to children specifically. It seemed like this was just like, give the troops a little bit of candy. A little treat, huh? And the other reason I didn't investigate it was it was mostly cover for me that like, if I told you that this organization exists, then surely you won't think I'm eating all the candy. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 01:05:13 I end up eating so much of my kids' Halloween candy. It's really, I need to come up with a better solution. Well, no, no, you're doing your part to fight American imperialism. That's right. I think that's how you should look at it. Now I'll feel like a hero when I'm doing that. Exactly, not a collaborator. Hey, I'm not getting my kids mixed up in no war crimes and fraud over here. Oh, fucking father of the year. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:05:35 You tell your kids, you like scare your kids like, well, do you want to go in front of a war tribunal? Do you want to go to the Hague? I say this like chocolate cake during my time.. She wanted the Hague is fucked up. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, man. Why do you smell like peanut butter cups? Yeah, I'm going to. The doctor says I'm going to smell like peanut butter cups for a couple of months now,
Starting point is 01:05:55 but nothing nothing can be done. Oh, my God. I got this great dentist. He doesn't give a shit about teeth. So I'm clear. Yeah. Just as we just shit about teeth, so I'm clear. Yeah. Just ask. We're just talking about politics. Daniel O'Brien, truly a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? You can find me on Blue Sky. I'm there every once in a while. I mostly left Twitter, but I came back to promote a rare live show appearance. I'm going to be doing some kind of comedy at Late Stage Live which is a queer and trans focused late night comedy show. It's gonna be part of the New York Comedy Festival. That's at the Bell House in Brooklyn on November 12th at, hoo boy, 10 p.m. You can find information about that. What are you, 20?
Starting point is 01:06:45 I know. I was when Ella, who was the host of that show, also a writer for Friend of Hours, Cody Johnston and David Bell and Katie Stoll's Some More News show, when Ella reached out and was like, we would love to have you as a guest on our late night show in New York. I was so thrilled at the idea of doing comedy in New York in front of people again. Yeah. And then when she said 10 PM on a Tuesday, I was like, oh, that's right. That's what this life was like.
Starting point is 01:07:16 That's what it was, yeah. But I'll be doing that November 12th. It'll be a week after the election doing a late night show that, you know, we'll see what everyone's mood is. There's no way to predict what the vibe is going to be, but we'll be there doing, making as much fun as we can. Beyond that, you can listen to the show Quick Question with Soren and Daniel. It's a podcast I do with my best friend and former cracked compadre Sorin Bowie, who is currently a writer for American Dad. We are two working comedy writers for television and we never talk about it.
Starting point is 01:07:53 We mostly just, it's an hour long phone call where two buddies catch up every week and you get to listen to it if you want. I think. But what if you guys talked about comedy? Like, have you ever thought about that? Like a comedy podcast where people like talk about comedy? Yeah. Every once in a while we think I want to just like sit down and be like, so sorry,
Starting point is 01:08:10 who are your guys? Who are your guys? Who's coming up for you? Who you looking at? Who you liking? Who you liking? I like Mark there. I, it's so easy to make fun of that show, but he does it well.
Starting point is 01:08:23 All right. Uh, Daniel, is there work in media that you've been enjoying? Oh, yes. Tina Frimmel. It's the last name is spelled F.R.I.M.L. She is a comedian that the the good folks at Instagram's algorithm brought on to my feed. She is a young up and coming comedian. onto my feet. She is a young up-and-coming comedian. One of the things that will immediately distinguish her to people who aren't familiar is that she does have cerebral palsy and her comedy touches on that but is also just like
Starting point is 01:08:56 genuinely like the two parts of her work that I love is that I'm hearing from someone in comedy like a voice and a perspective that I'm hearing from someone in comedy, like a voice and a perspective that I'm just not really getting anywhere else. And two, she is just hilarious. She's one of the funniest people to ever do it. I can't believe how young she is. It's very frustrating. And I cannot recommend her enough. I've been working in comedy in some form or another since 2007, which means I'm old. And that I can still be like surprised and excited by a new voice is really, really fun. So Tina frimmel check her out.
Starting point is 01:09:33 F R I M L. That in the footnotes. Great. Great recommendation. Got it. Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Yeah. Wherever they have at symbols at miles of gray basketball talk. That's miles and jack. I'm at boosties 90 day fiance talk. I do that on for 20 day fiance. Some tweets I like first one is from at bimbo underscore hours. Reagan Lee stallion tweeted, you got to dabble in just enough recreational drug use in your youth to develop a solid taste in music, but not enough to permanently addle your brain It's a fine line and I felt that I felt that as someone who prides themselves on their musical taste And then Josh Gondelman again if he again, he's a Boston guy. He's hate for New York stuff
Starting point is 01:10:17 It comes through in really awesome ways at Josh Gondelman treated sports. Not New York style. I think he lives Josh Gondelman treated sports, not New York. I think he lives in New York. Or dunking on New York sports stuff. Yeah. He's the best at it. He comes out like with his last thing, referencing the three and oh, the three Oh, come back from the Red Sox against the Yankees. This time Josh Gondelman tweeted the Yankees should have a fan that helps
Starting point is 01:10:37 put the ball in their players. So good. God bless him. God bless him and God bless the Yankees. Tough to see. You hate to see the Yankees lose. They could have had a 28th ring. Yeah. Some tweets I've been enjoying.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Alice doesn't have bangs at CinemaMilf tweeted, Nicole Kidman being in a film called Baby Girl is actually perfect because it's like another version of her last name. Kidman Baby Girl. God damn it. So, I never noticed that. And Frank Bullitt tweeted watching the Yankees lose is like seeing cops going to jail.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Yeah. I've kept texting jail. Which, yeah. I kept texting this to you, Miles. I just like, every new person who would come up on the Yankees, I'd be like, God, each one looks more like a fucking cop. It's crazy. Culminating with the guy with the mustache and the NYPD turtleneck underneath his uniform. Yeah, well. Anyways, you can find me on Twitter at jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.
Starting point is 01:11:51 We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Myles, what song do you think people might enjoy? Just look, just something nice and easy as we go into a stressful weekend probably.
Starting point is 01:12:12 This is a track by Unknown Mortal Orchestra. You may have heard it's called Nadia and a DJA, but I love Unknown Mortal Orchestra. Un-Narn? Un-Narn Mortal Orchestra. Miles is Australian and sometimes it slips out. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Losing the accent. Kilometers gray. But yeah, yeah, this is a great track, Nadia. Enjoy and just relax. Relax. And don't think I missed that kilometers gray. That was very good. I really had to sit and think for a second. Is that, do they use that system down there?
Starting point is 01:12:42 Do they use the metric? I feel like if anybody outside of the US would be not using it It would be it would be Australia, but I do think they're on the yeah, they're on that KM shit All right few all right Well the Daily Zeitgeist is production of I heart radio for more podcasts my heart radio visit the I heart radio app Apple podcast Wherever you listen your favorite shows that is gonna do it for us this week We're back on Monday to tell you what was trending over the weekend. We'll also have a greatest hits episode over the weekend. We also just dropped the first video episode and then a couple other video episodes of the show on our YouTube channel. So go on YouTube, search Daily
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