The Daily Zeitgeist - ACAB Includes Shrek, Scotchgard Apocalypse! 06.06.24

Episode Date: June 6, 2024

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and i got that from method man because method man was the king of rocking unorthodox headwear like using a paper towel as a headband and shit i thought that was the coolest shit paper towel as a headband you never saw that impressed me so much it would take like a long like from a public bathroom paper towel like maybe like two and a half feet long and fold it over. So it's like this thick and then put that on like that. Tie it up. Boom. Yeah.

MTV Cribs and ODB antics kind of like maybe being as trash as possible while living a luxurious life. It's like the best form of anything as a kid. High low. High and low. It was like blank check that disney movie like that's that's what i thought being an adult would be like if you're isn't there a scene where a grown woman kisses that young boy probably it's probably problematic uh i don't remember i saw it as like an eight-year-old and then locked it in as like an

aspirational goal and then and then never saw it again so I should date more grown women. Not that. You know what? Or just like, I remember that movie had me thinking like, literally if you found a blank check, it's over for the person who had the check. You know what I mean? Like that you could just be like, $3 billion, asshole.

Let's fucking go. That'll be $3 billion, thank you. Yeah. And you're in debt for the rest of your life like a blank check of a bank account that only has like 11 dollars yeah exactly most people's banks accounts like you're like this oh you fucked up they're like you have overdrafted oh damn i'll put 15 100 million dollars all. I'll bring it down. $3 million? No. No. Could get 42 cents, basically.

That's where I learned all my financial literacy from. That's why I'm such a financial genius. What does that mean? Blank check. You just keep telling your wife, babe, once I find one of those blank checks, we're going to be... That and the Danny Boyle movie where the kids find a big bag of money.

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got two four oh yeah national higher education day national gardening exercise day hey do some gardening to exercise national drive-in movie day remember those national applesauce cake day never had that national yo-yo day national Day, and of course, it's the fucking, what is it now? 80th anniversary of the D-Day invasion of Normandy in World War II, June 6th. You know, I was reading an interesting piece about how after the Cold War ended, we as Americans went big on D-Day to be like, and this is why we fight. There are good wars still. And look, obviously, many people lost their lives

fighting fascism. That's a huge thing. But also, it's interesting to see how much we take these kinds of moments to be like, and that's why we're the people that got to police the war. Because if not, it would be Hitler. We're the good guys, by default, for the next

800 years. We're one-tenth of the way through. Or who knows default for the next 800 years. We're one-tenth of the way through. Or who knows? Maybe the next five. It might happen. It might happen quicker than you. You can realize. We have a D-Day anecdote in one of the stories on today's doc. We'll see if we get to it.

Weirdly, it's the goldfish one. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Lift Me Up Before You Go-Go. If they aren't swollen, then that's a no-no. Lymph Me Up Before You Go-Go. And let me ogle them nodes. That is courtesy of Warren the Werebear on the Discord in reference to me getting horny for miles's plump lymph nodes

they're going down babe you know that's right you should have enjoyed them while they lasted although i'm still congested oh i did oh i did draw me like one of your french girls also i want to give credit the 99 poop balloons aka yesterday was a collaboration between you current do that on television which who i i mentioned but also charlie's eight the original charlie x oh is that the toxic uh celtics fan that's in the boosties discord server is it charlie i think so yeah that's you you big celtic never mind i take it back. No credit due. Have a good one. Have a good one. Fuck you, bro. We're thrilled. I'm thrilled to be joined, as always,

by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! It's Miles Gray, a.k.a. And I would wait 6.8 weeks to dress up to go trick-or-treat. I don't get how you get 6.8 weeks, because it's supposed to be 17.

I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get this stupid shit. Shout out Peanut Buddy Brown because I'm still, I've had people say, I had my brother-in-law text me. He's like, I was listening to the show. Here's my theory. I need you to...

He's like, yeah, I need you to shut the fuck up about this before I lose all respect for you. But he was also thinking, he's like, people constantly misremember the bookend summer holidays, Memorial Day and Labor Day. That was my initial thought. But my thing is, where the fuck does Fourth of July come into it? Wait, is maybe Labor day is 6.8 weeks from

all hallowed eve all days between halloween and labor day i don't i don't know how any of this works to be honest so how many days until halloween yeah it doesn't matter sorry to jump in but yeah i just please labor day is the beginning of september and october september halloween is the end of october right like two months essentially yeah weeks yeah that's that is 6.8 again not 6.8 it's fucking nonsense what the fuck i'm so sorry that i have to keep bringing this up but another theory dusted you're wrong miles but i got a date calculator look everybody's just trying to make sense of it it's the paragraph in a m&m's press release that we just can't make sense of caitlin oh okay i was wondering what this it's 59 days yeah no we don't we just you jump right into the deep end on this one unfortunately yeah

yeah no not buying it a month and 29 days still is not enough anyway i'm sorry well while miles is over there puzzling uh just with clouds of numbers swirling around his head like in a beautiful mind does that happen in a beautiful Mind or is that like a false memory? No. Do they do actual numbers around his head? Oh, I don't remember. Or is that just a meme? That feels a little stupid for that.

But it's also like a cornier movie than you'd think. You remember. Yeah, yeah, exactly. We let him get away with anything back then wait it is isn't it the one that has like there's that meme with like the confused lady but isn't that like that's like a meme from like a brazilian show like there's like a you know the meme where it's like the white woman and there's like all these like fucking geometric shapes around to be like oh yeah yeah yeah anyway math lady i think it's called math lady uh hey uh we are thrilled miles to be joined in our third seat by a very talented writer

stand-up comedian podcast host of oh shit now i get it the bechdel cast which takes down the patriarchy one movie at a time they also jack by the way you're the only i feel like no one ever refers to the bechdel cast in that way i know it's like never like it's like not on any i don't know i just made that up at some point and i was like this is good they're gonna want me to keep bringing this up over and over like it's their catchphrase that they came up with i think at some point when we were like joining the network it was like we need a like a tagline came up with it yeah and that's i think i came up with it how dare you not okay okay it's very good but then we never used it again like jamie or i'm like

and but you're like this is it this is i'm gonna this is it cut to crickets yeah you're walking down the street i just drive by dorante take down the pantry argue one way one movie at a time right yeah and i'm like that's you uh-huh yeah it me jesus christ what the fuck is that caitlin i don't know just keep walking anyways i just it it's a good catchphrase i wrote it yeah yeah also i happen to have a master's degree in film uh you also i don't like to mention it but you hate to mention that And you're going to now do a couple minutes On how I keep bringing that up

And you refuse to Ever talk about it Also the most anagrammable name In the English language possibly It's Caitlin Durante So when Other people have numbers And math symbols Floating around their, I've got letters of my name.

You've got the letters of your name. Do you have any new ones? Do you have any new ones? Yeah. No, we've really depleted the options, I fear. Yeah. Now it's like breaking it down into like maybe like two regular words and then like two nonsensical words yeah yeah yes exactly i'm gonna just see what else we got here

yeah yeah now i'm trying to do one on the fly like there's definitely urinated is in there yes have we done that before there's definitely urine one of one of the ones i've come up with has urine okay but amazing urinated nature cat in lid nature cat in lid cat in neutral there we go okay anyway there are new ones yeah details waiting to be discovered yeah caitlin it's wonderful to have you back on the show. Thanks for having me. Dude, URL NetCat India. That's the new worldwide protocol.

Yeah, URL NetCat India. It's Web 3, Web 4. Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the things that we're talking about today. We're going to talk about the candidate from Missouri, Valentina Gomez, who keeps calling everything in America weak and gay and recently got fired.

Nope. Actually fired the company that was employing her. Yeah, fired her job. Just so you know. Yeah. So we'll talk about just what the Republican Party is doing with Pride Month. We might even get to, we'll definitely get to Goldfish Crackers, it being National D-Day Day. Oh.

Well, we got to get to the Goldfish Crackers story because they have introduced spicy pickle flavor for some reason. I don't think I've ever had a spicy dill pickle in my life. I've had spicy sweet pickles, but they have specified spicy dill pickle. I don't think I've either never had a spicy dill pickle or I've had one and don't remember it. And in many ways, that is the most devastating thing I can say about a pickle. Have you ever played Have You Ever? Let's think.

Have you ever thought that spicy dill pickles is for me? Yeah. That's a Kendrick reference. Yeah, I've had spicy dill pickles. There's one that's called Devil's Spit that I get at the store. Damn, dog. That sounds tough as hell. That reminds me of the Shrek's Piss drink I made recently.

Oh, go on. Do tell. Is it just something you called it that? Or is that a recipe? There was a recipe on someone's Instagram page. And my friend sent it to me. And I was like, oh, I'm trying to do promo for what at the time was the upcoming Bechtelcast Shrektanic tour. It has since passed.

But I was like, oh, what if I make a video of me mixing this wondrous cocktail that is Shrek's piss? And? And it was disgusting. Come on! So it's not just a clever name. Not Shrek's piss. It's not just a clever name. It's not just a clever name, as they say in Wayne's World. Well, it's like Midori, which is green.

And then like Apple Pucker, which is green. Oh, so it's all green shit? It's like mostly green liqueur. And then you add in some like lime juice and some other kind of mixer-y type stuff. But at the end of the day, it was way too sweet and tasted pretty nasty. Holy shit. I haven't thought about Midori in fucking like decades. Well, welcome back. Yeah, did not need that.

All right, well. Caitlin, I just showed Shrek to my kids. The first Shrek, a huge hit. Huge hit, the first Shrek huge hit huge hit the first wreck nice the second trek did i don't we stopped watching after the first 20 minutes but it oh you shut it off it seemed like a a giant drop off okay that's wrong because that's incorrect track two's good film it starts out a little shitty i'll admit. But then, you just need to let Puss in Boots

get on screen. Oh yeah, Puss in Boots hadn't showed up yet. You just need to let Shrek 2 breathe like a fine bottle of Shrek piss. I like the idea of you watching it with your young kids like, Dad, this is boring. Hey, let Shrek cook, man. Let him cook.

Let him cook. Wait till Puss get in the fucking picture bro it's gonna be completely different let him cook i didn't have any memory of it so i didn't know what what we were waiting for but now i do and uh i have some enjoyable film viewing to look forward to nice but uh before we get to all the all those news stories c Caitlin, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? It's another Shrek thing. I'm not even joking. Wow.

It's written down. It is Shrek Rave LA. I Googled it because people keep talking about these Shrek Raves. So a Shrek Rave is a thing. It's an event. You buy a ticket for it. You go dressed up as a Shrek character and you just rave all night long. Yo, it's fucking tomorrow.

It's tomorrow. What the fuck? Are you going to go tomorrow? Friday, June 7th. Yes. At the Hollywood Palladium. at the Hollywood Palladium. At the Hollywood Palladium. Oh, there's one tonight, too. The thing is, I don't have anything to wear.

So I could maybe try to cobble something together last minute. But right now, I don't have the appropriate attire. Oh, like you have to pull up in Shrek regalia? I mean, everyone else is. So unless you want to be some outsider, some loser who's not participating. Don't do that. You got to come correct with your Shrek outfit. Holy shit.

There are people doing like sweepstakes. They're like, dude, win your tickets to Shrek rave. Yeah. Wow. Now I know what me and my kids are doing this weekend take your fucking kids to a rave do like a full-on even if it is shrek they're gonna end up seeing inevitably there's always people at a rave that did too much ecstasy and are sitting down crying somewhere yeah yeah okay i've never been to a rave how pretty it all is much less a shrek rave so there's always yeah

there's always a couple like a shirtless dude and a scantily clad girlfriend who's raved out and then they're having a big fight. There's just all these tropes you have at raves. I mean, yeah, maybe it is good people watching for the kids. For the kids. For the kids, you know. What is something that you think is underrated? Dating without intention. Which is something I've been doing quite a lot.

And it's just, it takes a lot of the pressure off of dating. I'm not out here trying to find anything in particular. I'm not going in with much in the way of expectations. And part of that is because the bar for male behavior is low but you know i go in with the expectation that i'll be like treated well and stuff but oh no i don't it's bleak out there let me tell you dating is maybe bleaker than ever, but I'm just like, you know what? I don't really. Has that helped? I mean, like, are you saying, so the intent being, I don't need to, I don't have to go into this saying like every day that I go on is to potentially find the person who I can

have like a meaningful long-term relationship. You're sort of switching gears. So like I'm meeting people. I don't really expect shit. And if I meet somebody that's cool, that's a bonus. Exactly. Yes. So not that I'm like very like oriented toward finding like a long-term monogamous relationship. Like that isn't super my thing anyway,

but I'm like, Oh, maybe one day I'd like to have some kind of companionship, but now you ever find Mr. Right. Well, but I'm like, oh, maybe one day I'd like to have some kind of companionship. But now I'm just like... But how will you ever find Mr. Right? Well, Mr. Right, I'm afraid, doesn't exist. Yeah. So I'm just sort of like, oh.

You're truly Shrek-brained. You're not waiting for Prince Charming. You're waiting for Shrek to come through that window. And that is an expectation. But I don't know. Yeah, I'm just sort Shrek. And that is an expectation. But I don't know. Yeah, I'm just sort of like, I'm going to just have a night where I'm not sitting at home by myself. And I'm, you know, meeting a new person. And it'll probably go anywhere from mediocre to badly.

But it's a way to pass the time. So that's how I like what dating for entertainment purposes yeah pretty much right right right what's a non-shitty date look quickly not to say stellar but just not shit i mean someone who can carry a conversation and who i don't end up arguing with because the past few dates i've been on i have like gotten in a fight with them and like your letterbox real quick right a date i went on recently he was like carrying on about how it's pointless to protest and he was specifically talking about like pro-palestine protests and i was like what the fuck are you talking about and he was like annoyed at the like effects of

protesting he's like oh people are trying to get places and they're blocking stuff off and i'm like yeah that's the point yeah it's to disrupt such like the status quo and get people to notice and pay attention and do something about it something is happening it's just like it's just annoying and i was like okay well I have to leave now. I hate you and I never want to see you again. And then I left. Kaelin is currently like five seconds from punching this person in the nose just based on the idea.

Yeah, it got very heated. I mean, I get it. It's fucking wild, especially when you're looking for someone to potentially relate to that they're so far off with something where they're like honestly like people being up in arms over a genocidal campaign happening some places not even here like it's annoying and if you're like oh that's your fucking worldview then we have nowhere to fucking really i was like there's no

world in which we would ever have anything to talk about or get along about anything and so who do you have empathy for um those people who are trying to get places dude people sitting in traffic like traffic sucks and while i get to like yeah that you see things where people like i'm legitimately having to go i'm gonna lose my like i get that there are all sorts of extenuating circumstances that make that disruptive, but yeah, to say things like, and because it's annoying, don't fucking do it. Right, and he's like, what about the people at Starbucks who have to get to work?

I'm like, well, that's a problem with capitalism, not a problem with the protesters. Do you not see the world? What are you like, one of these antifas? What is something you think is overrated sorry sorry to start screaming on the podcast no no get it out i like like i'm someone as someone who's so ignorant of what the modern dating world is like and i mean i have single friends who everyone says the same fucking thing i'm like what i mean back here i don't i don't know what the difference

is like and that's like the hard thing to wrap my head around is like is it that it's too many options because for me i was like i'm in a sea of loneliness i'm just looking for some driftwood also out there and we can hold on to each other till the rescue boats come and that's how you made a relationship work too many options of the problem i think it's more just the quality of the options that are available is kind of at an all-time you're too high value low right yeah yeah i get it no there's a lot of that's a yeah i feel like i've seen a unofficial trend online of people being like it's really hard for guys on these dating apps like i just helped my roommate with like his dating profile and he didn't get any bites and he's good looking and like he's awesome so what's going on and people have standards yeah someone had a theory

though that because of like the frequency of new dates you can get to that like the again this was someone's take on twitter that i'm not entirely sure is accurate or not, but that it's different than like when pre app dating, like you meet someone and just you try to make it work because you're like, I don't know. Let's see. Let me try to make it work. And then from there, you either adapt to someone or don't and move on. But now, like, it just feels like it's easier to just be like, ah, I'm not feeling it. Time to move on. And I don't know that that feels like a little bit fatalistic but that that well that's something i now do like immediately in the middle of the first date i'm like if i sense that like right but i get it and you should for something like that that's disqualifying for sure yeah do you always tell them you're leaving or do you ever

just like yes one time I did consider. Just walking out the side door. And running away. But I didn't. I was like. I just like sat back down. I was like. So I'm going to leave now.

I don't think we're connecting at all. And I have to go. And he's like. Oh. All right. Well. We can't all be for everybody. He took it surprisingly well.

And I was like. So true. So true. See you never. So true, so true. Are you mad that I, are you mad that I insisted on this date being at La Pubelle? I thought it's cool

that this is where Danny Masterson always used to hang out. Oh, really? Yeah, there's like a huge thing because the owner of La Pubelle is also like a big

Danny Masterson defender. Oh, La Pube? Yeah, La Pubelle, yeah. Wait, that's that French restaurant La Poob? Yeah, La Poob. Wait, that's that French restaurant near UCB? Yeah, yeah, on Franklin. Okay.

Never go there again. I've only been like once or twice, so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But never again. Masterson, you going to the Poob later? What are we talking, man? LPs, dude? Later?

All right. What is something, Caitlin, that you think is overrated i thought furiosa was overrated wow sorry everybody i haven't seen it but i'm i i hold your opinion in high regard so to hear this i would like to hear more thank you um well to be fair i do put mad max fury road on a pretty high pedestal. I've seen the tattoos. I have a tattoo about it. Yeah.

I've seen that movie well over 60 times. Holy shit. You know, normal behavior on my part. Right, right. You came in with a pretty level head about what this could be. But I was ready. Okay, so I went in being like, all right, it's probably not going to live up to Fury Road. Not much can in my eyes. I see it as more or less a perfect film. But I was like, I was still kind of expecting. I don't know. I don't know what I was expecting actually my expectations were kind of low because when the first trailer dropped and it looked weird and looked way too rendered and cgi'd i was like oh no but then i heard reviews coming out that were like no he's done it again it's another masterpiece oh it's

great it's great great and then a lot of just like you know fans you know regular people not professional movie critics or anything like that we're saying oh it's awesome i loved it so much that's some typical regular human being that's some non-regular the popcorn was good i want to have sex with the bookies. That's Caitlin's impression of us civilian filmgoers. How condescending that was. No, no, no. But I stand by it.

I stand on that. 100% on my end. No, it was a shitty thing for me to say. Even so, they're wrong and I'm right. Absolutely, go on. How many times have you seen it by the way i've only seen it once and i do want to watch it again in theaters to just give the full like to have a

fair assessment as much as i can i thought that visually it was not as impressive the action set pieces were not as as fun fun and impressive as Fury Road. And again, I'm comparing this to Fury Road as a standalone movie. It's yeah. So it was, it just didn't quite live up visually because there's also like more reliance on CGI than Fury Road because so much of those effects were

practical and I'm a sucker for practical effects hell yeah story-wise it was like it felt a bit jumbled to me i found myself like not having a hard time following necessarily but i was just like okay what are they doing and why what is motivating this sequence like why what are we doing here because it just felt like there were scenes that were meant to connect thing like yeah plot beats to others and they felt like they were missing so i had just kind of a problem with narrative cohesion and some story logic stuff and then furiosa isn't in the furiosa movie enough right right i heard it's not until like almost halfway in wait what i mean she's anya taylor joy shows up later on

because the first chunk of the movie is her as like a younger child right even so like it's a focus on i mean i feel like the story's like really milking the fact that Chris Hemsworth is there and he's like chewing up the scenery a lot of the time. And then there's just like other characters and like scenes where Furiosa will be present, but she's not like driving the action of the scene or she's not like pushing the narrative forward. She's just kind of like a bystander. A bystander. Bystander. Yeah. She says a high bystander a bystander yeah uh and that's a high bystander exactly yes so well again furious it was the one driving most of the narrative

in fury road so i was like expecting the same deal for furiosa and it just didn't quite happen so i mean i walked away from it feeling like emotionally affected, but then the more I think about it, the more I'm like, I'm not sure it's as great as everyone's saying it is. Would you put it on par with like some of the previous Mad Max films? I mean, I am not really a fan of any of those ones

because it's so hard to stomach mel gibson sure and number two i don't know they're just to me they're it's a different camp because the budgets for those for those were so much lower the kind of again the effects and stuff i don't know yeah i just i'm not like a a purist when it comes to Mad Max. I'm all about that Fury Road life. Yeah, exactly. They messed up. They should have called it Fury Road-sa.

So then people at least, you know what I mean? Just connected a little bit. Anyway, that's my terrible idea for Georgia. And that's why you should get notes from Miles Gray on all your blockbusters. That's what I'm saying, man. Charge nothing for this terrible opinion. It does feel like there's this theory on like auteurs like you can follow these uh their their careers and like some of them are like trying

all these different things out and then some of them are making the same movie over and over again and just trying to get it right and i feel like you could say that george miller kind of kept making like i i'm pretty sure one of the mad maxes was just a straight up remake of a previous one with just a bigger budget and that maybe i i've only seen each of the original trilogy once but the first one was literally like a student film there was like no budget for it whatsoever looks like shit that was the one i like went back i was like wow the people talk about these movies can't wait to see it and it's like what is this she's not this is actually not this looks like shit george miller and i did reach out to him and let him know thank you but yeah there there is the first one that like looked

like a mad max movie with like master blaster and stuff i thought was pretty good but it does feel like he was working his way up to fury road and like did it and he was like the you know felt like this is the thing that was in his mind the whole time he executed it and then studios were like we don't know what to do. There's no more superhero movies. Can we pay you to make a prequel? A prequel that we didn't really need? Because we already have all the information that Furiosa the movie gives us. So we're not really sure. He's like, I already worked out the beats while I was writing the previous one.

Yeah, but we don't need to see yeah but we don't need to see it we don't need to see it we don't i wish what would have happened is what like andor did for the star wars universe where like kind of it takes a character that we like vaguely know about from one of the like minor star wars movies and then expands the world from there. But you know, and introduces new lore and new concepts and ideas and blah, blah,

blah. Yeah. So I think they should have done the same thing with like the Mad Max universe. Yeah. That's just my humble expert opinion. And miles is, is that it should have been called Fury Road.

Fury Road. Yeah. And more of the cocaine guitar guy. Oh, yeah. They're back. Right. He should go to a Shrek rave. Yeah.

Oh, my. Dude. See a Fury Road rave. Oh, yeah. Yeah. People would die. Yeah. People would die.

People will absolutely fuck. Dude, the second that guy comes out on that fucking guitar just with flames shooting out, people are just going to be overdosing immediately. People are dying of chrome spray paint ingestion. Everyone is just huffing metallic spray paint to be like, dude, it's like the movie. You're like, you're killing your brain. You're actually dying right now. Dude, MRT job, please.

You're actually dying right now. Dude, immortangio, please. Super producer Justin points out that that might be Burning Man, what we're describing. Okay, fine. Fine, I'll go to Burning Man. But it's like expensive. And I don't want to be in the back of a pickup truck with Diplo and Chris Rock who think the world is ending. I want to be on a helicopter with Elon Musk. That's the way to do Burning Man.

Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about just how badly the Republican Party can fuck up Pride Month. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose

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We're big back. We're back. It is Pride Month. And there has been a predictable onslaught of homophobic bullshit from conservative media, conservative politicians. Yeah, you've got the FRC, the Family Research Council, which is the absolute homophobic freak show. That's like they're right now. They're like celebrating sports teams that have not posted about pride, while also claiming that like major sports have like rejected the concept completely. And while that's not true, completely, there are definitely a few teams that are holding

out on acknowledging the month, which is disheartening. Like, I think there's only one team in baseball, the Texas Rangers that like have just not posted anything about it. There's I think like 10 teams in the NFL that haven't either. And, you know, while that's all happening, there's also this candidate that for Missouri Secretary of State Valentina Gomez, and she is using the time honored Republican candidate tactic of just saying the most unhinged violent rhetoric that you can to get eyeballs on your campaign. I don't know if we ever brought it up because it was just in the background of the ignorant shit that comes out of the right.

But this is the woman who said everyone in America, she kept saying everything's weak and gay in America. And it was very, very poignant. One of her first videos is her running with a Kevlar fucking vest on like a bulletproof vest because she's so badass. I'll just play this clip uh because this is again someone who's running for secretary of state but anyway i'll let her you know launch her campaign in america you can be anything you want so that was looking hard she said you can anything. So don't be weak and gay. Be fucking hard.

And then it's like a fucking just a collage of her holding guns. And then it's like Valentina Gomez, Missouri Secretary of State. Doesn't she realize that America would be such a better place if everyone was weak and gay? Yeah, we probably wouldn't be in the starting wars all the time. I'm like, not really for us, you know, to be honest. But we are having a fantastic ball if someone wants to come through and, you know, see if they can actually

really get served in this arena. A gay Shrek ball? Sorry to keep bringing up Shrek events. Oh, Shrek ball? Yo, could you imagine that death drops for people in a Shrek costume? Yeah, yeah. Woo! Get, get, get, get down. Rah!

Just with a fucking Shrek costume. And look, she also proved how hetero and non-groomer she is because she also used a fucking blowtorch, like a flamethrower, to set fire to books by LGBTQ plus authors. All of this is a great distraction from the even bigger thing here, which is she is totally unqualified for the position she's even running for. But again, make a bunch of noise and that'll be the focus. But it turns out her employer, Nestle, isn't that into having someone like her on their payroll. Oh, no.

And I think in most- Did she make too much noise? Dude, she just spread too much truth man so much truth that i mean in most instances when you're like i'm not working for the place anymore because my company said they're unhappy with me that's usually because the employer is letting go of the employee oh not here not here motherfucker this fucking patriot she ain't fucking going down without a fight. Here's her basically outside of her. This is like after she got fired. She fucking recorded a video outside of her office.

They're like, Valentina's recording a fucking video outside near the lobby. This is her announcing that she was not fired, okay? Go woke, go broke. This company tried to keep me quiet for speaking up against the pornographic material in our children's libraries. And today, I fire them. No amount of money, stock, or bullying would make me compromise my values. So I will never support a company that wants to empower and protect pedophiles and groomers in our schools and libraries. So feed your dog something

that is now weak and gay. This is good versus evil. Don't be weak and gay this is good versus evil uh don't be don't be weak and gay this is for someone running for secretary of state and their whole platform is just to be like purina dog food is weak and k yeah and that's just the level of fucking just backwards discourse so yeah she fired them she was not fired. Because that's just a very healthy outlook that she has. But also, there's other shit happening in Utah. The governor in Utah is using Pride Month as a way to, quote, build bridges between the sides.

What sides? The LGBTQ plus community and bigots, I think. Oh. We got to hear out both sides. Absolutely. He says June should be a time to exchange ideas and see how everyone experiences pride. Quote, he said in this declaration that, quote,

those who do not identify with, celebrate, or support pride celebrations nevertheless share the experience of being marginalized. Thank you at the Thanksgiving dinner table. It's very uncomfortable. We love our children and we hope to live in such a way that our children will forever love us and even if at times you may disagree over deeply held personal views.

So fucking wild. Like what a load of fucking horse. These people are not persecuted by our children for not loving us enough because we're so we're so bigoted and hateful that we refuse to just let people be like again you the people who do not support like who are so this homophobic are not marginalized. Okay. But again, here they are using a dying breed, man.

We're an endangered species. All right. We need protection going the way of Shrek, man. Hate to say going the way of Shrek, man. Our swamp is in danger, man.

I just want to live on my bog by myself and to have my kids forced to come live with me and honor everything that I believe. Yep. As I have an absolute crisis talking to a donkey and a cat wearing boots that I call my friends. You know, they say I'm losing it. Why are we besmirching the good name of Shrek? Yeah, this isn't fair.

Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. This is not fair to Shrek. This is someone who thinks they got it like Shrek and they don't. They don't. That's what I mean to say yeah you don't have it like shrek is shrek is shrek an ally actually no okay okay good the whole thing with shrek one and you might have noticed this jack upon watching it recently but he's like pissed off that all of these so basically what's happening in shrek one is that lord farquad is ethnically cleansing his kingdom and he's displacing all of these fairy tale creatures who in the context of this kingdom are marginalized and he dumps them in shrek's swamp and shrek is

furious that they're there and he's like get them out of here this is my land like what the fuck you left alone yeah so he is not an ally to his fellow fairy tale creature wow he's like a weird uh mercenary for but he's not a bootlicker either it's not he's like yo man like i get what farquaad's pro-monarchy until he fucking marries yeah a princess and then in shrek 2 he like goes to the kingdom to meet the parents and then in shrek 3 he becomes a stand-in for king the king so actually he loves the monarchy god why are we talking about this piece so does akab include shrek yeah i would say so we need to start do we need to start announcing that at the top of the mountain? Just so you know, ACAB also includes Shrek. Yes. Just so you fucking know.

Shrek is the villain of Shrek. Shrek, wow. Yeah. Again, just back on this Utah thing. It's just so wild when they're like, let's use this moment to center ourselves. And it'll be a testament to our myopic self-victimization. It'll be fantastic. It's going to be fantastic.

The dominant culture has to make space for marginalized people. And now we are the oppressed. It's humiliating. Anyway, A. Kevin Foose-Trek. The fact that they just start talking about... In Utah, we love our children. And we hope to live in such a way that our children will forever love us even if at times we may disagree like they just immediately like go into this weird like

subtweeting of their kids in legislation for like not agreeing with their fucked up like hateful viewpoint it's yeah dying alone bigot boomer apologia they're doing you know what i mean it's just like so. Because that is, I mean, that is a thing you see like a lot. Like I've seen a lot of people talk about how like there's so many people like I just, I don't, I don't even talk to my kids. I don't even see my grandkids anymore because I'm so backwards. But they're still using that as like,

and I feel like I've got a scarlet letter on or something. Exactly. Just because I did. So I know what it was like to be a black panther wait what i'm sorry i don't think you do that's why i also celebrate i understand february it's also a month for me yeah that's amazing like history all right uh let's take a quick break i can't fucking believe that story that's truly rarely am i speechless but fucking utah you've done it again you've done it again

famous line from point break let's take a quick break we'll be right back i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control

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Flavor Blasted Goldfish are fucking incredible. I gotta say. No, no, no. Too much. It's a hat on top of a hat for me. It's a hat on top of a hat for me. No! Those are the ones that have a powder on them, right?

Yeah, they have Dorito dust. I don't want that. That's why I liked the originals to begin with. They were clean. They weren't a finger-altering substance. Yeah. No, the originals are probably the best, but of the additional varieties,

I do think Flavor Blasted Original, you know, like you blast it with the original flavor you double down on what was working in the first place that is what i'm talking about none of this fucking parmesan stuff yes no that's gross that's gross i better stop here before i start saying stuff about italian people that i'm gonna regret but jesus let's just say i did say parmesan in a weird way there that uh sounded more hateful than it should wow okay wow okay parmesan spit on the ground i only like the craft shit in the green can the fake stuff yeah give me that american cheese

that you don't actually put american cheese on my pasta uh when i'm at an italian restaurant you bring individual slices like cheese not that shit though uh i have my own wait what'd you call him ombre will you please take this plastic sleeve i don't need it anymore that's gross that's how we had lasagna i remember at my school cafeteria it was all american cheese yuck that's so gross american cheese is objectively the worst of all the cheeses you know the fact that we're alive is incredible like having eaten what we ate growing up it's unbelievable do you know how expensive american cheese is though it's like the price does not make it's unbelievable do you know how expensive american cheese is though

it's like the price does not make it's like 4.99 for like a 30 pack but each pack is individual each piece is individually wrapped so it doesn't it doesn't go bad like there was like yeah like one of those little half stacks was like on par with buying like legit just cheddar cheese and i was like what what the fuck are they trying to do? Like, why are you charging this much for just water and oil? Yeah. In the shape of a cheese, whatever. It has to be made in a machine to be drilled out of the earth.

Miles. It's made with crude petroleum. That would be what American cheese is. American cheese point. Like doesn't make sense from a physics perspective american cheese is made with jet fuel crude oil and bullets that's right but anyways goldfish taking a big swing with the spicy dill pickle there is a like market research firm somewhere that has been like, guys, pickles,

the wave of the future. The city of LA is covered in billboards for pickle companies and pickles that are coming out. Now Goldfish is getting in on the pickle craze. That was a hipster thing, I remember.

Congratulations to them. About eight years ago, there were people around there were like people around who like dude i'm starting to make pickles and i'm like okay sure man like thanks yeah whatever i'm like i make pickles whenever i buy a jar of pickles i eat the pickles there's a lot of pickle juice left over and then i buy a cucumber and i put it up and put it in the pickle juice. Let it sit. Let it, you know, fester for a bit. And now I've got another jar of pickles.

Yeah, and they're all yummy and gooey. That is in the cookbook. Fester. A little loud. Too fester for three to four weeks. So they get that nice, just, you can, they're so soft you can gum them. Do you really do that, though? I legitimately do that. That is the most sustainable shit I've ever heard of. because it feels wasteful to dump out all that pickle juice.

That's a lot of pickle juice or use it as brining liquid. Yeah. What are we brining exactly? Like chicken thighs, whatever. And like really brine that shit in pickle juice. Because, you know, that's what they say about like the rumor was like a like a chick filet or whatever that you're like oh brian or whatever but i think in general like it's a good salted brining liquid it was that or i would just buy a bottle of whiskey and just do a bunch of picklebacks oh yeah well that too oh okay wait wait you were you say it mile you're in recovery

and you never were drinking picklebacks no No. What are you, classy? I used to drink tequila with Tabasco sauce. That was my like, I don't like this, but I can't stop drinking. Tecasco? Tabila? Yeah, Tecasco. Tabisca? Wow.

No, it's whiskey. You take a shot of whiskey and then you chase it with pickle juice. With pickle juice. Goddamn. I mean, that's advanced drinking. I was hooked because the way it neutralized that alcohol flavor in your mouth and gave you a little bit of that like briny like, ah. I thought it was a health food for a while. Yeah.

I was like, it's vegetable water. Yeah, this is basically what they used to drink. And lethal amounts of salt I'm drinking, but okay. drink and lethal amounts of salt i'm drinking but okay hey you know vinegar which i'm sure is the main ingredient in pickle juice yeah it's it helps with your digestion it's good for you yeah so there so there yeah i just dumped my leftover pickle juice in my gas tank and jesus does not go well is that what that smell is? Yeah. It's not great. Really bad. All right.

So, you know, some theories have it the Pepperidge Farm is looking to distract from the fact that they recently got sued for allegedly misleading customers with claims that goldfish crackers contain no artificial flavors or preservatives it's wild because that phrase artificial flavors was invented to be so broad as to resist like definition at all like they they were like yeah we're gonna the food industry is gonna create this as a thing nobody knows what an artificial flavor is but we can pretend like the food is somehow more pure than other foods by just claiming this and they even got caught using that like why am i i mean this could by no definition are these not artificial flavors. I am so fucking stupid that you saying that just fucked up my entire worldview. Yeah, it's great. I'm legit out here being like,

oh, no artificial flavors. Yeah, except for industry is straight up some fucking wacky combo that doesn't exist in nature and would have to certainly be artificial. But they said no artificial flavors. But they said. Wow, wow, wow, wow. Which brings us to our be artificial. I'm like, but they said no artificial flavors. But they said. Yeah.

Wow, wow, wow, wow. Which brings us to our random aside. Apparently, the origin of goldfish crackers, they were originally created with a machine built by a World War II Nazi codebreaker who was instrumental in convincing Hitler that the Allies were set to land in Calais. Calais, yeah.

Calais, not Normandy. Wow. So we have goldfish. So retired from being a Nazi after World War II and somebody was traveling around and was like this guy makes cool fish shaped hand cranked crackers and they like sold it to pepperidge farm and that's how we have the goldfish cracker today but that person basically was so bad at their job as a code breaker that they allowed the allies to win the war wait he no no he's a nazi code he was breaking nazi code he was breaking well that

was my question was he a nazi no no no he was a code breaker or was he a code breaker who was he's good guy he's jack jacked. If I can't, I can't in one go, I can't learn that artificial flavors is bullshit. And I'm eating Nazi goldfish crackers, man. Like that would have been such a blow to my entire identity. Oh,

wow. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So he on purpose wrong, like convinced Hitler the wrong thing. So he was like working undercover. Good for him.

Yeah. I'm back on board. Oh, I got to go fish so many bags of goldfish crackers out of my garbage. Not even this fucking third Reich bullshit. Okay. So anyways, though,

ties into D-Day. Yeah. You know, shout out to that i i also just think it's funny that like that was like an invention goldfish shaped crackers they were like you hear about this guy over in germany right crackers are shaped like little fucking goldfish and like they had to hire him to like it feels like it should be easy but well it makes you wonder about like who invented the dinosaur shaped chicken nuggets right oh and what's i don't want to know i don't want that's probably it'll break you yeah else you can't handle it it was oppenheimer

i'm like no ah god damn it i mean these I just want to resist saying that this is the bomb, but it's damn close. It's damn close. Yeah, who invented dino nuggets? Because those are, that's also, I feel like we do need to know the history of the dino nugget. They're, I haven't had them, you know, since I was a kid, but they're delicious. Yeah. Probably. And probably terrible for you, but they're delicious. Yeah. Probably. And probably terrible for you, but that's fine.

And that's fine. And that's fine. But I drink Shrek's piss, so who am I? I'm washing it down with a 40 of Shrek piss, okay? That's the least of my worries. Oh, shit. Amazing. Should we do one more?

Yeah. We got a couple kind of meaty ones. All right. Did you guys read the 3M story? No. I remember it was getting teased out last week or the week before. Yeah, so I finally read it. 3M's got a forever chemicals problem.

It's bad, man. It is. So I finally read the 3M story. We'll link off to it in the footnotes. It's a collabo between ProPublica and The New Yorker. I've always resented 3M a little bit for being the company that actually invented Post-it notes and not Romy and Michelle. Business Press also trained me to... The Business Press has a crush on 3M. They've always been like... They love to tell the story of how they came up with the Post-it note.

They came up with this glue that was too weak to be effective for anything, but then they put it on the Post-it and realized it could be... There's so many Gladwell-lite writers who love to tell the story of how 3m is this little place for like ingenious little tinkerers and you know so they started with i think their first invention was like masking tape but then they like now they make a bunch of the different kinds of bandages and sponges and all sorts of shit scotch guard the thing that like makes various papers and packages waterproof and that's the one that got us in trouble because so one of their scientists in the late 90s was given a weird assignment very foreboding where they're like hey could you like

take this broad cross section of red cross blood donations and start looking for our chemicals in these blood donations and she was like okay and she found she found these pfos the things that are in scotch guard in every single sample every single one and so my god. And so they were like, well, this must be a mistake. Because they were like, okay, well, here, take this blood sample. She was like, yeah, it's in there too. And they were like,

well, that's my pet horse. So you must be lying. And then they realized, oh no, it's like getting into your pet horse's bloodstream through fish meal. Because it's so pervasive in all water like it's in all the fish it's in everywhere it's fucking everywhere they realized like that all

their readings were accurate when they finally like found a blood sample of like people who died before the invention of these chemicals these these PFOs and found, and that was the first sample that they tested that didn't have these PFOs in it. And it's like gotten more and more over time because it accumulates. Like our body has no way to get rid of it. And it just gets more and more. So like at first they were like,

well, this is no problem though, because even though the chemicals are in our bloodstream, like at first they were like, well, this is no problem though, because even though the chemicals are in our bloodstream, like they're not that harmful, but they accumulate and get more and more. So we actually don't know what's going to happen. And now some people are speculating that it has, it's like the cause of some types of cancer and it's the cause of lowering sperm count and lowering reproductive rates around the globe. And it's just a, again, we'll link off to it, it's a must read, but it's really, you know, we present a lot of reasons on this show that unregulated hypercapitalism

doesn't seem to work as the organizing principle for all of human civilization all of humanity but this is like maybe the biggest and scariest that i've ever encountered like we have these companies steering the ship who have nothing but short-term profit in mind and they will poison us all to death if the poison is slow enough that they can get enough of our money before we die. Like that's essentially what like so she discovered this in like the 90s and immediately started getting like frozen out by her like co-workers. She was asked to present the findings to the CEO of the company. The CEO like all all of the head lead executives like higher up executives started attacking her

and being like, who told you to do this? And like, what is your motivation for like doing this research that like tears down the amazing inventions that people at this company have done? And while they were doing that, the CEO fell asleep and started drooling on his dress shirt like in that meeting. And then she got like reassigned away from

that and then like this article as this article uncovers like they had known about it for like 20 years before and like there there were various executives who were like this is really bad but they basically like laundered the findings through her because they knew it was going to be bad for whoever's career like was associated with it jesus christ it's this fucking bonkers thing but it doesn't like it just feels like how every single corporation that you read about like operates yeah they you know it's just they are hostile to whatever is going to prove counter profitable you know if it's going to slow down profits it's going to be wildly unpopular okay first of all sounds like we need a sequel to aaron

brockovich yes yeah i mean i think dark water is somehow related to these chemicals dark water is the uh all-male reboot of Aaron Brockovich. I don't know if anyone saw that movie, but I did in theaters, brag. There you go. I forget what company, it's not 3M,

it was a different company that Mark Ruffalo's character was like learning that like all this like Teflon or something is in drinking water. DuPont. Yeah, DuPont, yes.

Yeah. And a bunch of people were being poisoned by their drinking water in a certain region and so i guess we just need another movie to complete you know sadly yeah that's what it takes like did you see the movie about three months like that pro-public article came out 17 years ago right you're And you're like, oh, no. Yeah. But the movie's great. Anya Taylor-Joy is fantastic as the human manifestation of one of those PFAS chemicals. I love this powerhouse performance.

Powerhouse performance. Powerhouse performance. It is wild. Like there was a part of me, like I had been incepted with goodwill towards this company by like articles that were just yeah we're just like and this is how like ingenuity works and like yeah we're just like kind of the people behind the people and like once you read about them you start looking around and you see like oh 3m is like their labels on everything. And for me, that was like a fun discovery back in, you know, 10 years ago. It's like, oh, here's a company out of like the humble, you know, state of Minnesota who's secretly like doing all this good work. And now it's like fucking terrifying. It's like

the end of usual suspects where it's like 3M is everywhere and they don't give a fuck about your health at all. And even like some of the stuff like now that they've been sued, they have like a $10 billion settlement that people are saying is just the tip of the iceberg. But they are like even they've like made a big show about like, you know, we're evolving with the new scientific findings. That was before this report came out proving that they had the findings before any of us. And even now, their wording around what they're actually agreeing to do is still very hedgy. And we are going to get rid of these things as long as we can find a profitable replacement to you know which will also kill us right yeah yeah that literally one

of the things that they started replacing the pfos with was like pfas and like or pfbs and that scientist who is now you know a whistleblower and and the main source for this report was like, and I knew at that time, those are also going to be bad and accumulating in people's bloodstreams. So it's just a crazy story. But shout out to ProPublica. They do really great work. Yeah. Damn, it was wild, too, because I remember they like a few years like right before the pandemic, they were trying to get legislation through that 3M was fighting hard about designating these chemicals as, like, fucked up. And they were successful at defeating that legislation.

And now we're like, yeah, because it's so fucking bad. Cool, cool. All right. Yeah. I mean, yeah. So need a new system. Anyway, that's what I'm saying. Just take, eat a handful of goldfish, wash it down with some Shrek piss.

Yeah. I might just have to get out there and like help people with the misinformation. Like this is the only way we're going to get through it, folks. Yeah. Let's do it. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, drink your Shrek piss, eat your goldfish.

Drink your Shrek piss, eat your goldfish. Thank you. Thank you so much. Take down 3M. Caitlin, what a pleasure having you as always on the show. The pleasure's all mine. Where can people find you? And that's not true, by the way.

The pleasure's also ours. Stop being greedy about the pleasure. We love having you on. Stop being greedy about the pleasure, ladies. Wow. Kind of what I was talking about earlier with dating. That guy was me, by the way. You had to just walk out on it.

I'm just saying it's hard for me to get to places. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? I'm mostly on Instagram these days at Caitlin Durante. You can also check out my website, CaitlinDurante.com. I post my upcoming screenwriting classes that I teach. The summer sessions are all filled up, but I'm going to be teaching stuff in the fall, both my intro class and I now teach like workshopping classes. So if you have a project you're already working on and you want to bring it to a group where you'll have like accountability and deadlines and lots of constructive feedback from your peers and from me,

I teach classes of that nature. And so you can go to what did i did i already say it i'll say it again caitlindirante.com and find information about that amazing and oh and listen to the bechdel cast this is a damn bechdel cast what does the bechdel cast do if you had to just like kind of put it in a single sentence i would say it maybe like takes down the patriarchy one movie at a time okay hell yeah hey that's pretty good all right yeah yeah yeah amazing can i use that can i use that you can use it to describe the back just anything i like this restaurant i hear it takes down the patriarchy one film at a time what the fuck is he talking about i don't know i don't have much to say they only serve. They only serve American cheese and truckers there.

Just in various forms, yeah. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying, Caitlin? Oh, I would recommend everyone check out the show We Are Lady Parts. Season two recently dropped. It's on Peacock. Ever heard of it? So, yeah, catch up on season one and then watch season two it's a great show it's so funny and it's so charming we did a streaming corner with super

producer anna hosnate for season one and uh we will be doing a streaming corner for season two of we are lady parts so everybody that that is not just a piece of media that is being enjoyed by caitlin uh it's also an assignment if you want if you want to know what the fuck we're talking about on that episode amazing miles where can people find you as their work media you've been enjoying uh yeah you can um find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray you can find us on the Basketball Podcast, Jack and Miles, or Miles and Jack on Mad Boosties, however you want to order that.

And also on 420 Day Fiancé, Talking 90 Day Fiancé, and the latest episode of My Mama Told Me. That's the Langston Kerman and David Borey podcast. Let's see. Let me just look. Did I like anything? I don't know if I liked anything. Do i have any works of media that i liked oh actually yes yes yes yes yes uh

this is actually from uh your co-host jamie loftus at jamie loftus help uh tweeted this like last week i remember when babu frick came out this she was always talking about how down she is with babu a lot of people babu freak out here this tweet i love it's just a picture of babu frick and jamie tweeted five years later i remain babu frick's only fan no one but me has the babu frick toy and the babu frick crop top i have i haven't seen over half of the Star Wars movies. I just like that he looks like an old baby. Shout out to the one other Babu Frick fan who finds this. Babu Frick. Also, it's the name, man.

Babu. Babu Frick. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. Tweet I've been enjoying. Ms. Grace Kulinship Schmidt Tweeted I built a squatty potty out of mahogany With a picture of the squatty potty Built out of mahogany

And LeftAtLondon tweeted Eminem lyrics Since 2009 Built a squatty potty out of mahogany Wow Okay I get it Built a squatty potty Way too many napkins And then at PleaseBeNiceG-N-E-I-S-S tweeted in response to the recent Chipotle story.

Me. More teeth. Dentist. What? Me. Recording video. No skipping now. More teeth.

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It's like how you pronounce R&D or N-Dive. The Maldives? Yeah, or Gal Dives. But anyway, G-A-L-D-I-V-E. The track is called Bloom. And it's just like some nice like whispery r&b kind of shit just you know setting yourself up for the weekend getting in that vibe you know letting the sun hit you so bloom gal dive get into it all right we will link off to that in

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