The Daily Zeitgeist - Adjust Society, Zelensky = Trump (Kinda) 9.30.19

Episode Date: September 30, 2019

In episode 484, Miles and special guest host Jamie Loftus is joined by Ethnically Ambiguous co-host Shereen Younes to discuss Hailey and Justin's wedding, the career of Ukraine's president Volodymyr Zelensky, Trump administration slashing refugee numbers allowed in for resettlement, AOC's new plan for inequality, the American Library Association canceling Melvil Dewey, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. JUSTIN & HAILEY BIEBER WEDDING PISSING OFF HOTEL GUESTS ... Pool, Spa Off Limits!!!2. Volodymyr Zelensky Plays Himself3. What Zelenskyy’s prophetic “Servant of the People” TV show suggests for his further steps4. Ukraine’s New Leading Man5. Love in the Big City6. Trump administration plans to slash number of refugees for U.S. resettlement7. A JUST SOCIETY8. Down With Dewey9. TICKETS to see ETHNICALLY AMBIGUOUS at the CHICAGO PODCAST FESTIVAL - October 16th! 9. WATCH: Azizi Gibson - High [Audio] Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.

Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hi, I'm Miles. Are you the internet? Good. Good to see you. Good to hear from you again.

What time is it? I don't know. Because this show is anytime you wish to listen to it on demand. But I know this. It's Monday, September 30th. Season, oh man. I'm really messing this up, guys. It's not easy for me to host.

And I'm sorry that this... I think you're doing a good job. Thank you. Daily Zeitgeist! A production of iHeartRadio. Yes, thank you. I'm back. This is a podcast, that's right, where we take a deep dive into America's sordid skull and see what is going on in there and say,

look, off the rip, fuck Fox News. Fuck Coke Industries. Fuck them. Very brave. Thank you so much. I'm a social justice Look, off the rip, fuck Fox News. Fuck Coke Industries. Fuck them. Very brave. Thank you so much. I'm a social justice warrior. Yeah.

Well, we know what side of the comedy Civil War you're on, Miles. Yes, whichever side Ant-Man is on. It's, like I said, Monday, and it's me, Miles Gray, a.k.a. Early in the morning, zeitgeist on the stream. Fuck Fox News and Coke fam, cause they won't solve my E.K.A. Early in the morning. Zeitgeist on the stream. Fuck Fox News and Coke fam cause they won't solve my E.D. Tuscany is heaven. Arsenal is life.

She is called your highness. Don't refer to her as wife. Okay, that's a sublime, if you didn't know. Rest in peace to Bradley. And rest in peace to anyone who's seen a sublime featuring Rome show. Not the same. What? Yeah, they still tour with Rome, who's another vocalist. That's a deep cut for people who fuck with the vibes like that.

Anyway, you already know the voice. Yeah. That is today's guest co-host. Yeah. Jamie Loftus. Oh, wait, I got one too Ready? Oh you do? Yeah yeah yeah

Hold on Oh Okay It's Jamie Yes it is she On Daily Zeitgeist Besting 10 regular men This is way lower

Than I was planning on going Santa she's got a horde Shutting down every ex-lord who makes sure Miles isn't bored. It is Jamie. Oh, really not my best. That was pretty good. You know, I did my best. Look, we've gotten off to a rough start.

I'm not going to be honest. Full disclosure to the listeners out there, it was a rough start today. Not my register. That wasn't my, I'm not an alto. I'm a soprano. Oh, no, you were fine. Thank you. You are a soprano. I think we're doing fine. I think we't my, I'm not an alto. I'm a soprano. Oh, no, you were fine. Thank you. You are a soprano.

I think we're doing fine. I think we're just, I don't know. It's that, you know what it is? It's that internalized voice from, definitely my mother in my head that rings through the self-criticism. I'm learning how to love myself. That's this week's challenge. To all listeners, let's be kind to ourselves and love each other.

Try to love yourself. Well, let's introduce our guest today. Someone who y'all are already familiar because she's been down with the set since day one. Okay? Please welcome the talented, the visionary, a Zelda lover unlike any other, Shireen Younez.

Hello. Welcome. Hi. It's me. It is I. I don't have an AKA. Well, can you sing the melody from Ocarina of Time? Oh, wait. Hi. It is I. I don't have an AKA. Well, can you sing the melody from Ocarina of Time? Oh, wait.

Well, it's literally my ringtone. Just call me. Maybe you'll play and I can sing over my ringtone. No, you don't. Okay, never mind. Maybe that was too much of a stretch. I don't have your number, I don't think. What the fuck?

What is the Ocarina of Time? Oh, honey. I'm sorry. You got three hours there no shireen busted there well there are so many songs in the ocarina of time like the main zelda theme would be like yeah yeah there you go but actually someone messaged me on Instagram asking if I have an AKA, and I had nothing to tell them. You don't? No.

Well, I have an AKA Shushu. Okay. What a doo-doo. Okay, well, I don't like that last part. Okay, Shushu, what it is, is. Anyway, thanks for joining us, Shereen. Thanks for having me. Thank you for co-hosting with me, Jamie.

You're welcome. We're going to get to know Shereen even better. Oh, no. But before we do that, let's just give people a little quick preview of what we're going to talk about. First, just a little bit of news that no one cares about, but we should just mention Haley Justin Bieber Baldwin was married. I care.

You do. Good. Do you? No, I'm not. I think she meant I care, like E-Y-E, just a non sequitur. Get your eyes checked. That was a plug I have to plug it

yeah for that new optometry sponsor you have yeah sorry I'm gonna be cosplaying as someone who cares about this today oh fantastic

yes then we'll move on to a little bit of more blowing the whistle look the news is changing so rapidly that we we're gonna give

actually a little bit of background on President Zelensky of Ukraine because he is a fucking character. He contains multitudes. Multitudes. Yes. 100%. Then we'll talk a little bit about, you know, the Trump pattern of fucking up and then being very cruel to marginalized people because it's happened again.

Then talk about AOC's new plan for inequality, a just society, one that we, I think, would all like to live in. Then we are going to have to cancel Melville Dewey of the Dewey Decimal System. This is a story that is really 110 years in the making. Quite literally. Yeah. Wow. It's wild. I mean, this is people are like, cancel culture's gone too far. They're canceling Dewey well yes we'll hop in the time machine because we're going i'm excited yeah do you guys ever play mario's time machine that pc game no mario was on pc oh my god yes he was on pc there was

a game called mario's time machine and it was fucking lit okay what did he do what happened where'd he go um no there was a game on the pc i'm sure it's other things that we used on the pc and he just like goes in this little time machine and he goes and visits it was like a historical learning game honestly if i'm being honest but like he goes and he's not like fucking up but he like fixes history and like you learn about it as a kid and it was so fun so you just like bill and ted's it yeah Yeah. Exactly. Wait, what do you mean fix? Hold on. Fix his history? Like how? Like he's like, thank God the South won the Civil War. Thanks, Mario. Woo.

Bye. No, it's like Marco Polo gets lost and he has to like find him. I thought it was like reviling. To shit his rudder. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Like full on revising history for the dad.

It was like, didn't you guys play Oregon Trail on the PC? Yeah. It was like that kind of PC. I died of a broken leg every time. Yeah. I was a dysentery girl. Yeah, dysentery. Oh, hey, shout out my dysentery girls.

Hey. Dysentery girl fall. I'm a dysentery girl. I'm not a VSCO girl. I'm a dysentery girl. Yeah, exactly. Shout out to all my typhoid bros, too. You know what I mean?

And the cholera homies. My favorite PC game was Detective Barbie. Did you play this? Yes, I played Detective Barbie. Well, it started because I loved Carmen Sandiego. And then I found Detective Barbie was a thing. Her jacket was just pink. Yeah.

It was different. I liked it. Yeah, she solved a mystery at the carnival. And she had like 10,000 preloaded names. So every name in existence was in it. But it would be like, Jimmy. Yeah.

Come on, Jimmy. Yeah. Someone just ran into the bumper cars. And then she would chase people in the bumper cars. She'd always had like a, like a really cute, like briefcase per situation. And her alpha was always like on point.

I don't know. It was like clue, but like. But meant to socialize young girls. Yeah. Yeah. And this is what it means. One thing I remember about, since we're talking about Carmen Sandiego, the reason I liked it, I to socialize young girls. Yeah. And this is what it means. One thing I remember about,

since we're talking about Carmen Sandiego, the reason I liked it, I remember my friend had it and it came with a copy of an almanac, like a hard fucking real book. Because in the almanac had all the flags of the world in it. And that was a big part of playing Carmen Sandiego.

They're like, she went to the country with the crescent and the star. And I was like, that's Turkey, fam. And I remember as that book helped me a lot. And there's a lot of useless information went to the country with the crescent and the star and i was like that's turkey food and i remember as that book helped me a lot and i there's a lot of useless information in almanac for a fucking nine-year-old but hey shout out to y'all but those games are so where did this educational games go those are fun games that you learned leapfrog yeah i love leapfrog dude they were all good

is that the vtech system yeah yeah it came It was like a fake laptop that your cousin would give when you're done with it. And they're like, this is for second graders? Oh, man. You're like, shit. Get a job, Jamie. Okay, let's hop right into it. No, look, this is the beauty of this show. You know what I mean?

You know, I get loose. I get loose on here. You know when I have my cold brew. Shereen, what's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are okay so i i looked at this you call me jamie loftus oh my phone's on silent i was trying i was trying to help and then i looked unhinged and then i was like well i just absolutely rejected someone in this room actually is my friend um i looked at this this morning and the most recent one,

I just saw Ad Astra and I have this whole theory about Ad Astra, not a theory, but like a whatever. But my recent search history is Gravity Film Father because I think every space film

is just a daddy issues film in space. And I was trying to like get evidence for it by looking at every film. Like Gravity is more of like a mommy issue because she is a kid. There goes your theory. Try a new angle. I can still spit it.

I can still spit it. Spit it, spit it. Because all dads love it. Because George Clooney can act as this father, whatever. Whatever, it doesn't matter. But even Space Odyssey is the ultimate daddy issue because the birth of all mankind or whatever. God, daddy issue. And's because like the birth of all mankind or whatever. God, daddy issue.

And then there's High Life, obvious daddy issue. There's Interstellar, which is like, in my opinion, the king of daddy issue space movies. But that was my recent search history. I was like trying to be like, yeah. Is this for a book you're working on? I like it. No, just a tweet. Space parent.

The amount of labor we put into a tweet. It's unfair. I mean, look, just for that, have you put the tweet out yet? It was just a dumb tweet about how Ad Astra is another exciting edition of data issues in space. But this tweet is available for the public to consume. It's just a tweet. By the time the episode drops, everyone should retweet it. Yeah, thank you so much.

Let's do a quick experiment. Go to Shireen's Twitter and please retweet that to amplify this point because I think it's valid I think that we need to talk about it daddy issues in space

with an exclamation mark at the end it's fun I haven't seen any of the space movies and space is just another sort of metaphor for the distance

you have between your parental and every fucking rocket is phallic as fuck oh my god yes daddy issues ugh just a big dick

going into the big space pussy in the sky just trying to find trying to find the G-spot oh everyone's going for the big space pussy

in the sky never finding life is that well wait in the phallic so is the the if we're going P and V

it's like the spaceship is the dick and the vagina is the cosmos just the black hole of the cosmos like the spaceship is the dick and the vagina is the cosmos. Just the black hole of the cosmos.

And the atmosphere is the hymen. And they'll never understand it. When you're breaking through because there's so much space you don't understand just like the vagina.

It's true. No one can find it. There are certain parts of it that some people never can find. Yeah. Some people will refuse to acknowledge

its existence even yeah we're workshopping a really powerful open mic joke right now oh yeah for the wrong for the wrong comedian yeah yeah uh what's some of this overrated uh okay i was thinking about this i don't really have a great answer the first thing i thought about was like the internet instagram and like how we're just using social media wrong but that's just like well that's valid i don't know i just feel like Instagram in particular has gotten to this point where it's like... I was touching an animal the other day

and I was like, I should show everyone I'm hanging out with a pet. Oh, okay. And I was like, why do I think of that? Like, let me just enjoy this pet. Right, right, right. Yeah, you completely removed yourself from your experience

and then you put yourself in the audience's position on your own life. I think it's like a dangerous like a I don't know. Just in the panopticon. I don't know. I think the internet just like freaks me out constantly. Like I'll just the ads and everything. I know everyone always talks about that but

I don't know. So are you, is this part of You know what else is overrated? Incognito mode. Because it doesn't actually work. No, it doesn't. Why? What do you mean? Do you know how if you want to go to Pornhub or something and then you go to Incognito I have a whole other house and computer to use.

But they still, like your keystrokes are still memorized or whatever. What do you know about my keystroke? But incognito mode freaks me out. Well, get a VPN then. You want to trust it, but you can't trust the internet ever well you're never alone is what i'm trying to say wow i've noticed yeah like that when you're searching i don't know the porn i like always shows up at the top of the page i'm like you know me but you're not supposed to know that how'd you know that but thank you you're not

supposed to know that it's helpful but yeah yeah don do that. I'm bad with typing with the back of my hand. Look, y'all. We're on our journey. We're getting real. We're on a natural journey. What's something that's underrated? Airplane mode and nature. Okay, this is like related to the experience I had, but recently I've been doing some traveling because I hate the city. No, I don't hate the city.

I just hate my life. Come on now. And then I've been doing this thing where I purposely put my phone on airplane mode and so I'm completely unreachable by anybody. And it's so freeing because then I'm just taking photos for myself and enjoying a tree and appreciating

nature. And I went to the Sequoias recently and camped and did some shrooms. And I was like, this is the life I want to live. You know, I want to just like look at a tree and be like, thank you. You know, trees are underrated.

Wow. Flip it up. Trees. Trees. Have you ever? Man, that must've been a cool trip when you're like, you know what?

I'm gonna write this down. Trees fucking underrated. They are underrated. The only time I did shrooms, I got into an argument with a wall. I got to try it again. You should go outside. I should have gone outside. I got into an argument with a wall. More specifically, a piece

of drywall in an alley. It was hard. Hard for me. Have you read the... That reminds me a lot of that book, How to Do Nothing. Have you read it? I think you'd like it. I think I should read it. It's really good.

It is like it's about like unplugging and going into nature, but then also like knowing how to like responsibly plug back in when you need to. Well, that's that's the thing. As much as I love airplane mode, it is a full fledged like panic attack when it turns on and I'm going down the mountain or whatever. And it's just like 45 emails and like all these texts being like, where are you? And I'm just like, I don't, and I hate texting because I don't want to talk to anybody. Yeah, I'm the same way.

I'm a bad texter. I'm a horrible texter. Yeah, I'm good on the phone. I'm old school like that. I'm like, yo, if you call me, I'll pick up right away. Yeah, I'd rather call than text. I don't like text. And I'll have like a 40 minute conversation with people who like doesn't need to be there.

Yeah, I think, you know, it is tough to – it's also another thing to consider, right? Is it the nature of what you're doing like for work, the things that are causing you the emails? Is that a source of your stress too? And is that the best thing for you? Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. I think I've been –

Would you rather be getting emails from trees or something? Or like people being like, Shereen, we need you to go plant this stuff in the mountains. And you'd be like, yeah, I don't fuck with that email. I do think the reality of, I don't know, living in LA and trying to be financially stable is stressful. Oh, absolutely. I feel like when I travel, I'm running away from something all the time. And so when all the emails come, I'm just like, oh, I cannot avoid all these things. But I do think trees,

just appreciate a tree. Trees do so much. Yeah, plant one. And they are so beautiful. I just planted one. What, really? A little orange tree. Yeah, just because I like them.

In your backyard? In the front. Oh, nice. So people know. So people know, like, yo, oranges for free over here. Please, I don't know what to do are you gonna be one of those neighbors that like calls people out when they're like picking your tree

out like on their walk well it's good you would have to like fully get up on my property i can imagine i can see you doing that though hey yeah hey i feel like you don't take a ripe one yeah you could take take one that fell only from the left side thank you you're lucky i'm even letting you have an orange. These are delicious. This is a public service I do. You're going to have to play by my fucking rules. You can have like a little sign.

Sign in sheet. Yeah. Oh, man. No, because I was in, I was driving like from Santa Clarita to somewhere like in whatever. But I pulled over and there was like an orange grove, I guess. And I like wanted an orange and I got one and I got yelled at. Well, yeah, that'll happen. Some call that trespassing.

I think that's your future. I think that's your future. Nah, man. Fruit is for the people, man. Fruit is for the people. Anything that's growing from the earth is for the people. You know what I mean? Anyway, but I digress.

What's a myth, Shireen? What is something that people think is true that you know to be false? That you know, though, 100%? I think vitamins don't do anything. I think the myth that vitamins are healthy is false. Because unless... Oh, hold on. What?

Maybe, I feel like this is a myth that maybe we don't have to talk about. You're about to go down a weird path right now. You're saying medically that vitamins do nothing? Unless you're're deficient in something they just make your pee smell bad like you're just gonna pee okay so this isn't a hot anti-science anti-medical take right no okay well i wasn't sure because sometimes motherfuckers come on here and they're like no no no i'm taking like i'm taking like supplements and like like unless unless you're deficient in like b12 if you're a vegan or like vitamin d or, if you're not drinking enough, whatever. Yeah, where you need to address the deficiency.

Yeah, unless you're a doctor or you're testing or whatever shows that you're deficient in something, taking a bunch of supplements and vitamins, you just pee it out. And your pee smells awful. Well. I like it that way. Why are you saying my pee smells awful? I've smelled it. Well, that should flush more. It's a thing. If it's yellow, let it that way. Why are you saying my pee smells awful? I've smelled it. Well, that should flush more.

And you should really stop asking people to go in and be like, does it smell weird to you? Hey, Jamie, I'm sorry. It's like an HR issue. I'm sorry again. You're the only person I trust. Is something going on with my pee? Be honest with me. I appreciate your radical.

And I'll say, no, it doesn't smell weird. And then you'll be like, be honest with me. No, but I'm not like, if you look it up, a lot of doctors agree, like unless they tell you to take something, a lot of vitamins, like you can take them and it won't affect you negatively. But you do just pass them if you don't need them.

Yeah, and like your pee either gets really yellow or really smelly. It's B vitamins that make you look like coolant, like engine coolant, right? Yeah, I like that. Or beet juice. You ever drink beet juice and think you're peeing blood that's wild i drink beet juice what's that it's healthy for you it's good i had yo i had a juice

that's beet apple and ginger and carrot yeah but ginger too but i had ginger though too little bite to it and i drank a fucking like 40 ounce of that shit and i peed i was peeing out rose wine oh my god basically it's really good for you add some lemon maybe I don't know

all right whatever I don't know whatever but you just still can't wrap your head around it that sounds

disgusting peeing rosé or drinking beet juice just drinking I don't have an acquired taste for things that

are good for me for the most part but that's just like that's too much right it is it is it is really

intense flavor that's the fun of the human body though you see what things are absorbed what things are passed yeah you know and that's not to say i don't take anything like i like taking like stuff like that i think mushrooms mushrooms even like vitamin shroom turmeric is cool like i think it helped like inflammation and stuff but at the same time like i i think like uh the myth of like take your vitamins every day unless day, unless you can notice a difference or unless there's something that you should be supplementing for, it just kind of just passes through you. Dude, that's just big vitamin propaganda, dude. I don't even know. Yeah, I get the placebo effect from if I have a bottle of vitamins.

I got one of those bottles of vitamins that just says woman on it and you're like, yeah, cool. You take one every day and you're like, I don't feel better or worse but I feel like I'm doing something positive. Take your Yas Queen vitamins. Take your Girlboss supplements every day. Get ready to slay every day with your Girlboss. I was like, yeah, it was a pink

bottle. It literally said woman on it. That generically? Yeah, it was a cbs one like what what would be different in the woman one i guess like i don't know well i think for most people too it's probably good for a lot of people if you're not very conscious about the food you eat you may probably have numerous vitamin that's why i take one ideally ideally you would get your vitamins from good food and like healthy food so if if you're not doing that, vitamins would help, I'm sure. Great.

So that wasn't really a hot take. More about, I think, a confession for you that your pee stinks. Yeah, it does. Oh no, you're so tortured when you say that. Okay, well, we'll get Shireen some water and we'll be right back after this break. Well, we'll get Shireen some water and we'll be right back after this break.

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Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.

Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?

This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network

is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Carrie Champion and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball

just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them voice. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a

joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is

only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back um and before we get into weird news let's get into weirder news um justin bieber and hayley baldwin are getting married today i think yes they are in south carolina um and i don't know why i'm bringing this up aside from i saw a photo of the hotel that they're being married

at and it looks like a chic plantation. It does, yes. It's an influencer's plantation. Apparently it's some form of a montage hotel and guests are complaining because they were not allowed to use basically anything at the hotel for like 48 hours to help

welcome them together. What do you mean? Like because they had rented out the hotel essentially for their wedding. Like guests can't use the spa. They can't use the pool. They can't use any of the good restaurants they had rented out the hotel, essentially, for their wedding. Like, guests can't use the spa. They can't use the pool. They can't use any of the good restaurants. Oh, like guests that aren't invited to the wedding. Yeah, who just happen to be staying.

They're like, what the... I planned this shit months out. They're giving people refunds and shit. Other people are really... Other people are mad. It's really hard to have empathy for literally anyone in this situation. No. No. It's just like, I'm sorry you can't use your spa at the weird plantation hotel because

justin bieber is making an important life decision it's really crazy how how invested we or it's like general world gets with celebrity like i mentioned this before we started rolling but i posted like a cavity of the other day and someone messaged me being like you're a regular day justin bieber and i was like what are you talking about? And they're like, he got cats, he's a cat man now. And I'm like, other people have cats, you know? And they're like, they do? And he's like, she was like,

I'm really invested in the relationship of like Hailey and Justin. And like, I looked at his, for the first time in like ever, I went to Justin Bieber's Instagram and like, yeah, he posted videos of his cats being like, I'm a crazy cat man now. And I'm like cool

I do feel like it's like people I cling to celebrity stuff more so than I ever did when I was like a teenager I'm like maybe it's like a moment in time thing where we need things to have like hold on to of like I need something to care about like I don't know you can live sometimes vicariously through them

yeah if it's something you like or a world you like or you fancy yourself living a lifestyle like that, you can escape in that. Especially if they travel a lot. Well, that's what influencers typically, I mean, those are just,

that's just straight up like keep your mouth open and don't interact except through these photos and live comparatively and then feel terrible about yourself. Which I do love to do. I'm addicted to comparing myself

to other people, feeling bad and then- Who's a weird person you compared yourself to throwing my phone oh that you shouldn't like when you look back that is like you're just like that's just unhealthy and weird i'll need i need a second i'll burst into the middle like lionel messi i'm like why aren't i being fifa player of the year so look at my cursed instagram followers but anyway yeah and it's funny because even as i say it out loud, I don't even know why I'm talking about it. But I know that's a thing happening. Yeah.

And that's just what we're talking about on Earth. Yeah. But it's crazy. Peace to them. I think it's kind of endearing that someone's invested in some celebrity's cats. But it's also weird that you saw a random person's Instagram, like my video. And then you thought of like a celebrity cat. And I'm just like, that's wild.

Because cats are a very normal thing. Well, I also think, too, we also have to sort of check our level of what we're used to living in L.A. Like celebrity is not interesting to a lot of people who live here because you work in production. I've worked in production. You work also in production. Everyone has been either in front or behind the camera or either one. And you very quickly see this thing for what it is. And you're like, it's just a lot of insecure people.

Yeah. Yeah. Being insecure at each other. And it gets very toxic very quickly. And you're like, I need that. And you're like, I really want to move. I don't want to be here any second longer. You're like, you know what?

Just things on my mind. I'm going to make my dog a red-pilled dog. Yeah, because that would just distract me from the void of vagina space sometimes. Getting up there in the sky. I think I'm jealous of my, I compare myself to my ASMR influencers that I follow on Instagram. Wow, really? Yeah, they create all these beautiful spaces for themselves and they're like, here's where I'm whispering tonight.

And I was just like, damn. Versus your mad scientist laboratory? Yeah, I was like, life could be so different if I just chilled the fuck out for a second. Oh, wow. And then just whispered. Yeah, if anyone's looking for an ASMR channel that needs a new, Batala's ASMR.

Batala. Do you get the tingles from that shit yeah oh see that's so weird I know that's six years I know that's the thing right

there are people who get the tingies from it and you either do or you don't it's a real thing I know I don't have that response though to it either way

it's still kind of like it calms me down like if I'm like writing during the day sometimes I'll just have it on like in my headphones in the background just to like

keep my brain humming a little bit lower. I used to listen to a lot of binaural beats. Speaking of ASMR though, I kind of went down a rabbit hole the other day and do you know turd twig?

No. What if I was like, oh my God, yes. You have to, okay. What the fuck? The reason why, I think it like ties into

why I think Instagram is not overrated but like terrifying for me because like I was there is this ASMR account. It has like almost 150,000 followers. It's called Turd Twig. And at first you think it's like just, oh, he's running over. He's crunching things with a tire or whatever. And then it goes and he starts you start hearing him chew on rocks.

Oh, I don't like the extreme. And then it's like, it's very bizarre. Nah, nah, I'm not feeling too twig. It's never addressed, but that's the thing. Is it art? The internet creeps me out. But is it art? I don't know.

Is it subversive art? Meant to be a commentary? I'm a simple woman. I like people pretending to be hairstylists and finger flutters. And then I just fall right asleep. Oh, beautiful. Well, let's move on to some heartwarming news or just interesting news.

Actually, I think we needed to check in with our segment that's going to be happening constantly on the whistleblower. So, blow the whistle. Okay, so I don't know where the news is right now. So we're going to pull out wide so we can look at the situation from a broader perspective. Because if we get too microscopic, everything changes too quickly. So I want to put

our focus right now on the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelensky, because he is basically at the center of this entire thing. He is the president of Ukraine who Trump was leaning on to dig up dirt on Joe Biden and therefore abusing his power of the office of president of the United States. The thing about this guy is he is very, very similar to Donald Trump in like just in the ways they sort of came up. He was best known for playing a non-politician on TV, like a character who becomes president. No shit. Called Servant of the People.

That's wild. Like this like hit show because we all i knew he was a comedian or whatever i knew like i just knew that but i didn't know what his body of work was his imdb yeah he was on veep yeah the ukrainian version um roll your sleeves up because we're about to get dirty um he did not okay so the thing is it's kind of like stephen colbert-esque in a way a little bit yeah he like throughout this whole show like he wasn't like hiding the fact that he was interested in like uh coming into political office at some point and the show sort of like helped kind of frame him a little bit as

a political candidate um like where he would dress up like as his character on Instagram and like use this like the theme song from the TV show at his campaign events because people liked the character. I feel like that's what I would have wished Stephen Colbert would have done. But like as his actual self. Because we did see him as like a political figure I feel like. At least I did when he had a show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure.

I mean but I think at a certain point you realize just how just dark it is to be a politician in this country. And maybe at some point you're like, I like to just do the satirical version and not like have to look, you know, corporate like owners in the eye. Oh, my God. The way the images for the show are hilarious. Yeah. So the show was called Servant of the People. And that was the political party he named like the political party he formed to run was also called servant of the people so it's all about like melding these two things and even the show like itself has these

like sort of overtones about like kind of what trump sort of talks about like what we you know the the state of power in the country where the show's opening um has these two like or group of these deep state like figures thinking like, OK, well, we've selected the two candidates for the upcoming election, but we won't like rig the results. And let's just sit back and see which guy wins just for funsies, huh? And then the whole thing is blown up when the character that Zelensky plays, this guy, Vasil Holoborodko, randomly wins. He was just a random school teacher,

but a viral video of him complaining about the state of politics goes viral. His students start a crowdfunding campaign to get him in the race, and he wins. Wow. Yes. Okay. And then-

What year was this show coming out? Very recently, in the last few years. Okay. And in the very first episode when he wins, he basically becomes a darling of the public when he just goes off script and he's like, guys, I don't really know what I'm doing. They're like, we love him.

So it's a very sort of, I guess, nicey-nicey version of sort of how Trump operates of being an outsider who used his public public uh uh public persona and celebrity to elevate himself but there's also like it's very there's like a lot of absurdist stuff in there at one point he like pulls out a machine gun and shoots up parliament oh and then another one he's like hanging out with a wild screenshot yeah he gets visited by ghosts like Che Guevara and Abraham Lincoln. Holy shit.

Yeah. But, you know, even though like he's there, he's not quite he's not a far right figure. He's basically a centrist. The thing that's really interesting, though, is that as president now IRL in real life as President Zelensky, he, just like Trump, hates the fucking press. And in his party, like, they've all said, quote, we do not need journalists to communicate with the public. Instead, they use what? TV.

Social media. TV too, in a way. But he was elected in April, right? And he still hasn't had a single press conference. What? Yeah. He's never had it. The way he does, he's like press briefings are canceled regularly. And all the interviews that he does, they're conducted by an in-house sort of production

company that he runs. Okay. So are they like filmed or are they like posted on like Instagram or Twitter or something? Oh, they do. Well, they do all kinds of stuff uh in one version he does an interview like during parliamentary elections he sat for an interview in a fucking tesla like in a comedian's getting coffee and cars doing the show like this is no no but like he's I think he is so built off this content mind. Like so everything comes out in this like content form like that, that can be politicians and Tesla's, you know, corrupting democracy show, whatever he did was for his political

party's YouTube channel. Like and so that's younger. He's in his 40s, right? Yeah, he's a lot younger. Yeah. And it's just really odd when you think about like, he may be this like fun ha ha guy, but like to even think that all of your communications with the public are always coming through your own filter is fucking freaky.

Yeah. But I would be, I would be remiss if I didn't mention another project that he did that was very interesting. Before this show he did, he really became famous as a rom-com star in a show called Love in the Big City. Oh, my goodness. Sometimes translated as No Love in the City. Oh, it's a big difference.

Yeah. It's the opposite. Yeah. But I think that makes more sense, right? And I think more people feel isolated living in cities. More aspirational. Yeah, romantic partners. But it's about three friends who lose the ability to

have sex after a toast at a party magically makes them all impotent i don't find that funny at all you can have sex if you're impotent right you guys well i mean if you're pushing rope right but right right yeah okay wow wow well i guess guess I have wrong ideas about the human body. This is like the weirdest art becomes life thing. Yeah, the whole thing is really odd. He's in charge of a country. Yes. The whole thing is they are doing a cheers,

and these characters apparently were these big hedonistic fuckboys. And during a cheer, at another party, a strange-looking man makes a toast for love and then corrects himself. Let what you drank for be impossible without what I drank for. Which is really, it's a riddle Mac wrapped up in a mystery with a limp. But through that, they're like,

hold on. That guy's toast made our dick soft. How do we fucking figure this out? And it's all the guy is actually a magical deity, St. Valentine, who basically won't let them have sex until they find love. That's like the moral of that season. What the fuck? Or the movie, rather.

This is a scripted thing. Yes. It's not like he wrote it, but he definitely was. That was he was in. That's how he rose to prominence. At the end, is there just like a shot where you see them get a heart, like hard-ons again? They're like, oh, he's in love. You're like, ooh.

Wow. It's the one. I hate it. I hate it. What the fuck? There were two sequels after this. No, there was not. Wait, well, like the hangover, they're like, they're limp again.

Well, we'll put this one off for size. And another one, they have an, again, it's a sex curse. But this time. I feel like I have a sex curse, but whatever. Touching an ancient idol means they can't have sex without conceiving a child. What the fuck? Well, so the opposite. Exactly.

But it's all kind of related because it's like you have to find. Casual sex is not allowed allowed like either in either scenario like you have to find love and and then you have to fucking have a kid ukrainian sex curses are wild yeah shout out ukrainian sex and the third one uh finds the the the three lovable guys annoyed at having to look at annoyed at having to look after their children. So they accidentally wish them into becoming adults. And then they become adults. It's like big. Oh.

So there's no sex curse in that one? No. Then this one, it's just that they're like, damn, like I wish these kids would grow up already. And then they like, I guess miss out on trying to like be good parents.

Wow. I don't know, very confusing. But again, this is how you become president. That's bananas. Yeah. Well, now just let that settle.

And I'll take a hard pivot into another news update. Just because, again, the pattern with this president, and this is such a hard pivot I'm doing right now. Okay. Going from sex curses to more more just shitty news about this administration. You know, the pattern has always been does something that fucks him up in the polls or does something that is just objectively terrible. And people like, oh, my God, why the fuck?

What the fuck is going on with this guy? And then it's always some kind of racist red meat thing, whether it's attacking somebody or doing some kind of new cruelty at the border. Well, this time the president has cut down drastically the number of refugees the country is going to be taking. The goal for this year was going to be 110,000. They're only allowing 18,000 people into the country in fiscal year 2020.

Yes, they went from the goal being 110 to now 18,000. And the way that's distributed is 4,000 refugee slots for Iraqis who worked with the United States military, 1,500 for people from Central America, 1,500. Wow.

That's nothing, yeah. 5,000 for people persecuted for their religion, and the additional 7,500 slots are for those who are seeking family unification and have already been cleared for resettlement.

It's just like such a sinister budgeting. Yeah. It's just like such a sinister budgeting. Yeah. It's just so- You're making people statistics. They're just numbers. No, they literally are. And to even say 1,500,

there are like 71 million displaced people on earth right now. That's like not even a graduating high school. That's like ridiculous. Yeah. I'm just saying 71 million people on this planet who have been displaced by conflict, climate change, whatever, the name of crises. And this is the most we're willing to do.

And the worst part is his base is probably eating this up. Yeah. I mean, the ones who, I think it's the whole thing, right? It's just like, okay, wait, remind me why we support you again. That's right. We hate the weak or we've othered people or I've insulated myself enough to a point where I can look at someone as a refugee or someone seeking asylum as someone who fucked up or something. Remaining as little space as possible. Someone that's going to ruin this country.

Right. And again, and even in some of the talking points, we've heard people defending this is using the thing of like, well, you know, we don't want to be a drain on public assistance. That's just a fucking myth most people who any anyone who comes here uh seeking asylum and it gets public benefits they're on it for a very short time and end up paying a lot of taxes in the long run so it's again uh bad bad shit that makes um but i do want to pivot to something better uh because aoc aOC, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. You got to, guys. You got to.

The news is moving very quickly. So, you know, her Green New Deal helped sort of set a benchmark for progressives, even though there were some things that a lot of people didn't see eye to eye on. But it still became a thing that a lot of progressives rallied around of like, yes, we need something like this. We need a plan. We need something to move towards. a lot of progressives rallied around of like, yes, we need something like this. We need a plan. We need something to move towards. She just last week introduced a plan for what she calls, quote, a just society that's focused on economic inequality, housing, and many things. And it's very simple. It's just six parts, right? Very easy to read PDF that she put out when she introduced

it. So the six parts are one, a just society recognizes and eradicates poverty. So there's a bill that she wants to put forward that would propose a new official poverty guideline that basically takes into account all kinds of things for any person, right? Because rather than a number, it's a little more nuanced thinking of like, well, what does that mean for where you are geographically, your health insurance, your childcare, and other necessities that people need like internet and things like that. So that is making sure that the way we measure, the way the poverty is measured, which can, you know, sort of determines how people are eligible for all kinds of social safety net programs and things like that. It's done in a way that's actually

humane and a way that actually acknowledges all the factors versus like, well, here's this, this is what we think people, that's all you need because it's not very nuanced at the moment. The second point, adjust society creates a place to prosper.

This is from the bill. It says the, the place to prosper act would protect low income tenant, low income tenants and reign in corporate landlords by, by among other things, creating an access to council fund for renters facing eviction, imposing a 3% national cap on annual rent increases, and imposing disclosure requirements on the nation's largest landlords. Great.

Perfect. Yeah. Don't gouge people who are just trying to live because affordable housing is such a fucking issue, not just in LA especially, but everywhere. Many people are finding it to have, you know, minimum wage used to mean the minimum you need to make to be able to survive. Not how many of these can you pile up

to make a living wage. So that's another thing trying to just, you know, approach housing in a better way. Three, a just society is merciful again this is from uh her it's so interesting how this is reading like a piece of philosophy that like everyone like there's a common sense but yeah you know like it's like it's as if like some like i don't know yeah it's it feels like things any humane society should do to ensure again a just society a just meaning that it's not in equal it's not predatory it's not exploiting people this is basic shit yeah and it feels sad

that we even have to articulate this exactly that's what i'm saying for the amount of people who want to like pat themselves on the back america's number one yeah and i'm sure medical debt and i'm sure people are going to read this and be like, how can you read those lines? A just society is merciful. A just society embraces our immigrants. And then be like, no, that's not my country. You know what I mean? That's the most basically human decency.

This really does remind me of stuff that you like the sort of stuff you'd hear when you're a little kid. Just like the basics of how to treat people. Sit down, young Jamie. I'd hear when you're a little kid. Just the basics of how to treat people. Sit down, young Jamie. I want to tell you about a 3% cap on annual rent increases. I've always been very passionate about housing justice from a very young age.

Oh yeah, you should tweet out that photo of you at City Hall. Yeah, yeah. The third one, a just society is merciful. The Mercy and Reentry Act ensures that notwithstanding any other provision of law, an individual may not be denied any federal public benefit solely on the basis that the individual was convicted of a criminal offense. Perfect. Makes sense. Residivism. People go back to jail.

They reoffend because of poverty. Yeah. So this is saying, hey, we understand there is a fucking loop that some people get stuck in. Can we address this right but again and that would really take a huge chunk out of the prison industrial complex great fantastic uh four a just society embraces our immigrants the embrace act ensures that not withstanding any other provision of law an individual may not be denied any federal public benefits solely on the basis of the individual's immigration status fantastic great the bear

hi do you need to live yeah do you need help living i love i love that we've reached a point i don't love i hate that we've reached a point in our society where like this basic fucking shit has to be made into like a political statement political act yeah it has to be articulated yeah like this basic thing that we should be merciful and kind to one another needs to be like a left wing like statement. Extremist. And it's like this is like someone who is regularly

like characterized as an extreme person. That's what I'm saying. And that's what this is going to become embodied and probably going to use the word socialist and stuff when really it's just like

we're nice to each other. It's like Sunday school shit. It's ridiculous. Well, what's unfortunate is that all the Ukraine whistleblower shit has completely taken the oxygen out of DC. So even though this is pretty monumental, I've not seen

many, I haven't seen a lot of response on the right to it because I think right now the right is too focused on trying to like, trying to rationalize the abuse of power that's going on over there. And then lastly, or number five actually, a just society uplifts our workers. The Uplift Our Workers Act would direct the Department of power that's going on over there. And then lastly, or number five, actually adjust society, uplifts our workers. The uplift,

our workers act would direct the department of labor to create a worker friendly score, similar to lead certification, like for buildings for federal contractors. This score would consider factors, including, but not limited to paid family leave, scheduling,

predictability, hourly wage and union membership, and give systemized preference to worker-friendly contractors as it makes contracting decisions fantastic if you put money and uh stability into your workers pockets we will put money into your pockets yeah that's basic shit makes and then lastly uh number six a just society guarantees the economic social and cultural rights of all basically what it's asking is they want to ratify the UN Covenant on Economic, Social, and Cultural Rights, which is essentially the UN's new form of like, these are basic human rights we are trying to articulate as the UN, which is about not having terrible work

conditions, the right to have formed trade unions, the right to adequate food, clothing, housing, and the right to the enjoyment of the highest attainable standard of physical and mental health. Yeah. Wow. That's controversial, right? right i mean hot takes all around it really just like does boil down to just like not punishing people for like societal circumstances out of their control like it's it's only like this is amazing and it's also depressing how basic it is because yeah we have left so many people in the lurch uh not like we but the government collectively as the u.s is you know anyway uh we have left so many people behind and there are so many people that are in desperate need of support and we vilified them yeah we blame them for being

there in this cycle when really they're just like trying to fucking survive yeah and it's clear probably to people like us who are maybe a little bit more engaged like this, like this is basic common sense. And it's going to be sad when people inevitably look at this and not see how even through their skewed lens of politics or whatever their partisanship could see that this is actually something that is across the board a benefit to every single person. Well, that's the thing. People are going to know it came from AOC.

People are going to already have an idea of who she is if they don't like her or not or think she's like on the wrong side of whatever they want. And then they're already going to have their, it's going to be skewed

from their fucking twisted kaleidoscope lens of what they think this country should be. Yeah. And it makes me mad. Well, you know, but again,

I think it's great. It's sad that we have to articulate things like that and try and find a way to codify or make these law. I'm very glad this exists, though. I'm glad it exists, too. It's one of those things, right? A lot of people have talked about these things

and tried to address it, but there is something, I think, nice with the Green New Deal that sort of set people to, even if it was controversial on the right or whatever, it got a lot of conversation going. And you would hope that this would too, because it would be hard to see people. I guess the only thing that Fox News pundits would say is like,

we'll see, and then they're just going to drain all of our taxes because this is really just giving people free stuff. They're going to make it into this. Oh my God. But you know what? I can't handle it. Yeah. You'd hope that a lot of people,

even if they watch Fox News all day, can recognize that they might know people who might be in a situation like this, too, that could benefit from it. Yeah. Or they themselves might, too. Remove the partisan shit from it. Yeah. Because this isn't partisan. You'd hope so.

No. You'd hope that they can remove it. But I feel like, is this country capable of actually seeing things clearly? I don't know. Yeah. I do think that there is always, every time that, even though it's depressing to us to look at such a basic layout for humans being treated semi-decently, I'm always happy to see when stuff is released that just explains things in relatively common sense terms.

Because I feel like so many people just get like lost in the like largeness of it all you're like well here are like six basic issues and like how like the bare minimum that we can do to set things in the right direction yeah i do appreciate that it's worded in a way that it's that it's easy to to digest like it's not worded in a way that like only smart people will understand what I'm saying. It's like she definitely made an effort to make it a universal, not simple, but like, yeah, kind of boiling it down to like the bare minimum. Yeah, she's really good at that. And I think also the name to adjust society. Yeah.

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the American Library Association, they took his name off one of their top honors, which was the Melville Dewey Award. The reason why is this dude is canceled. This is, I mean, this this is like fascinating i did not know you know well i mean i think if we look back in history on anybody there's there was an era where people did terrible shit on the open and the way we handled it was oh that's he's that's troubling and it's when stories come up that are like something that seems so innocuous, like the dewey decimals.

They're like, fuck, it is an epidemic. He was an anti-Semitic, racist, misogynist, sex predator. What was the name of, can you just, it made me so happy. What is the name of the organization that ended up getting his name removed? Because it was like, it rules. The whole reason was like, they took off, what's her name? Sarah Ingalls Waller. You know, they took her name off because of a lot of the racist shit she was saying.

And that's sort of been kind of the momentum within the American Library Association of being like, no, we need to be very inclusive. Like we don't have time to like obscure people's legacies, especially when they're completely at odds with our own views. Laura Ingalls Wilder, right? Yes. Laura Ingalls Wilder. Wild? Yes, Laura Ingalls Wilder. Wilder, yes, thank you. And I will tell you, so this whole movement came out of the ALA's

Social Responsibility Roundtable's Feminist Task Force. I love it. That's amazing. Make merch. I will wear that merch. Pulling up the fucking receipts. So apparently this shit goes back to 1906. He was first censured by the American Library Association in 1906 when several women, quote, complained about his improper behavior toward them, including unwanted kissing, hugging and caressing in public.

Dewey's own daughter-in-law even moved out of his home because she was uncomfortable around him. own daughter-in-law even moved out of his home because she was uncomfortable around him. In addition to the sexism, he was also cited for his anti-Semitism and racism. He had a private club that he owned, I guess, in Lake Placid and was like, we have a no Jews and no blacks policy here. What the fuck? My God. And when people came to the club, there was pamphlets out there, in case y'all were curious, that said, quote, no one shall be received as a member or guest against whom there is physical moral social or

race objection it is found impracticable nerd to make exceptions to jews or others excluded even when of unusual personal qualifications this was also in 1906 he had a big year that year um he was basically forced to resign from his state library position because they're like this Personal qualifications. This was also in 1906. He had a big year that year. He was basically forced to resign from his state library position because they're like, this is unbelievable. And you know what his defense was? What? I got friends that are Jews. Of course.

Oh, the classic. Yeah. He started it. I can't be anti-Semitic. My lawyer is Jewish, that kind of shit. And basically said that also it's a private club, so I think I should be allowed to choose who enters and doesn't. Interesting. But like all this stuff didn't stop him from having a legacy a century fucking later. Well, that's the thing, right?

Because he was still such a big name that like if you look, I think, on his bio on like some website that's more of like a governmental website, they describe him having a complex uh history uh-huh they distilled all of his racism sexism those are complex predatory behavior as complex because that that's the old school way of dealing with that shit it's like we'll acknowledge it by saying complex because it's euphemistic enough mistakes were made but right we're not changing. At the same time, I'm sure so many prominent people,

like names in our history should be canceled. For sure. Maybe this is like one of the exceptions where there's actual evidence there. Well, right. What's odd though, too, is like he has a history within this organization where he's being censured by this organization for this, yet still did it.

And I'm sure the powers that be at the time found a way to protect his legacy or whatever. So another, just another anecdote from this Slate article says that in, he would do this thing where he like, he championed this thing called simple spelling, where he would, it would quote, eliminate extraneous letters. Okay. So basically like typing like a kid essentially. And he hired a stenographer who he described as a dainty little flapper. L I T L because he, he does simple,

simple talk. I'm going to kick this guy's ass. He like jumpstarted the era of like not liking vowels, like Tumblr and Flutter. No, seriously. And better looking B E T R better looking than I expected. ass and like jump started the era of like not liking vowels like tumblr and right no seriously and better looking b-e-t-r better looking than i expected yeah what is he writes like he's naming a startup he's a fucking loser better um so okay then he was hugging and kissing her in public

um she was basically was like yo i'm gonna file charges against you and settled uh for 2147.66 cents that's a that's a check 1927 that's like a weinstein style settlement and the according to dewey's biographer dewey was upset with the settlement not because he had gotten in trouble for his behavior because he was worried the stenographer might spread a rumor that she got $2,000 for no work. What? Yes. That was his fear. Wow.

We've come a long way. Yeah. And again, when he was censured by the ALA, his response, he said he insisted he hadn't done anything wrong and pure women would understand my ways. Oh, God. I hate that quote so much. No, no, no, no, no. What does that even mean? I don't.

I mean, that is meant to imply that anyone who is saying stuff about me like that is not pure. Well, yeah. Yeah. It's like anyone who isn't okay with me grabbing their ass in public is impure. Is not a virgin. You're just like, what? Pure women would understand my ways. Oh my god, I want to barf.

I really admire the task force for fucking going, because it's like, this is... We gotta make t-shirts. I mean, the fact that the thing of like the... It's not that she threatened me with a lawsuit. I don't want her to think she got that money for no work.

What? That's how indignant and like not apologetic he ever was. Like he never actually believed he was in the wrong. He's mad he even had to do any sort of like settlement. He was the star of the bad apologies that we see on Twitter that are like in the notes that like are posted, you know? A bad apology icon. I think we have to call it Starcode on those just non-apologies.

Just rationalizations for shitty fucking actions. If this dude hit the notes app, yeah, it would be a mess. Oh my God. The notes app apology from Melville Dewey. He was like,

I'm upset, but it's because she didn't work. Yeah. Council culture is going too far. Centuries ago. What's next, comedy? If librarians aren't safe, I'm afraid no one is.

The librarian civil war. I can't imagine people being like, cancel culture is going too far because we're literally going back in time at this point. Like, this guy's dead. Well, I think because also too, right now, 79% of librarians are women. So I think when they start looking back in their own organization, they're like,

this is terribly fucked. That's a good point. Yeah. They're like, why are we- Especially when someone has a legacy. I think that's the thing. When someone is like revered for like inventing a fucking system or something and then their whole name is the system, like that, you know?

That's like receiving like the Donald Trump Friend to Islam, like a community service award. Right. That's like receiving the Donald Trump Friend to Islam Community Service Award. Where you're like, what? But at the same time, at the same time, I just thought of this. His children

and his children's children, should they be punished or should their name be maligned because of their association with someone? Should you be, getting back to Ad Astra,

should you be punished for your father's crimes? I don't think so. How are they suffering, though? No, I don't think they're suffering. And I don't think you necessarily need to be like, hey, man, are you Melville Dewey IV? Yeah? Milkshake, motherfucker. No, that has nothing to do with them. I'm just playing devil's advocate.

I don't actually agree with that, but I just think it's a funny thing to think about. Like, that could be a possible argument to be like, leave it alone. Well, and also that system isn't being used anymore from what I understand in libraries. Yeah. Fuck books. From what I understand. There's no libraries. That was good.

Use Canopy. Canopy is great. Canopy is great. I love Canopy. What is that? If you have a library card, it's fucking free. Oh, that's the one. It's a streaming service for so many movies.

It's so good. Yep. Eli Oldsberg was just talking about that. Yeah. Me and Eli are like film buddies. Yeah. Because we're on Letterboxd and we have like Canopy. It's fun.

Cool. Anyway. Hashtag movies. There was another thing too. Like he founded the library school at Columbia in the late 1800s. And he was like, I think women need to be admitted as students here. Because. Because he wants to.

He gave a speech called. Oh, no. Yeah. This is the. But he gave a speech entitled Librarianship as a Profession for College Bred Women. Oh. Something about college bred women is cringy. Where he said.

I think he says makes me want to. Where he said, although women had the character intelligence to be librarians, they were also more likely to get sick or leave the profession to pursue home life. And women deserve smaller salaries than men because males, in addition to being capable of the same library work, could also, quote, lift a heavy case or climb a ladder. There are many uses for which a stout corduroy is really worth more than the finest silk. A stout corduroy is the finest silk.

People are fabric when you think about it. People are fabric. People are just fabrics. People are fabric. When you're fabric. I mean, yeah, there's... What kind of fabric would we be? Let's pivot.

Me, I would be like what I'm wearing right now a soccer jersey synthetic material that stinks the second you have one drop of sweat in it I'm a swishy what's a swishy

it's like swishy pants I'm swishy oh like like like jogging style like old jog suits nah like like pants that you wear

when you're insecure oh yeah yeah yeah what is that like that fabric yeah yeah like the okay so you're you wear when you're insecure. What is that? That fabric. You're also a synthetic gang. Nylon gang. Are you organic or synthetic? That's really what it boils down to. I think it would be fake leather

because I want to think I'm tough, but really I'm really soft and I don't want to kill anything. And you were made in the lab. And I was made by scientists. Or I'd be mesh becauseesh because I'm like incredibly... Of course. I'm just like... I'm here for Mesh.

I have no... Like it looks hard and like tough but really you can see right through me. Oh no. Whoa. I don't think Mesh

has ever looked tough. You really dig in deep. Full disclosure. Well I think it's like... Especially seeing a guy in a Mesh marina. I mean like I imagined it as like some type of like...

Like not tough but like more like like cool fashion or whatever you know yeah I don't know but still transparent a fabric for all seasons

yeah yeah but probably that's very telling probably pleather honestly this could be a really good psychological test I like this yeah

what fabric are you he has he's not useless after all Anna what fabric are you people are fabric that's true people are fabric Anna People are fabric. Anna says she's microfiber.

Whoa. Hell yeah, dude. That's smart. Gets it done. That's just good business. If someone ever answers wool, I think they're a serial killer. Wait, unpack that. Unpack that.

Why wool? Wool's great. Because it's itchy and awful. Yeah, if you react to wool like that. Like if someone's like, my favorite thing to touch is wool. You're on a date. What are you like? I like to touch wool.

Okay, I'm going to use the restroom. Or like the flesh of an animal or whatever. The flesh? That's not a fabric. No, meat fabric. Oh, meat. Hey, what fabric are you? Meat.

What's the one that's like really like straggly and like very like. Oh, itchy. It's like supposed to be like fancy really straggly and very like- Oh, itchy. It's supposed to be fancy, but I think it looks stupid. Oh, fuck. You know what I'm talking about, right? I know you do. I can't afford it. It unthreads all the time.

Yeah. I think it looks so dumb, but it's so fucking revered as expensive shit. Moe hair? Moe hair! That's what it is. Whoa. Moe hair. Fucking moe hair. I hate moe hair. Yes. Mo hair. Fucking mo hair.

I hate mo hair. Yeah. I wish I had mo hair. It creeps me out. I think it kind of creeps me out. Yeah. It's kind of similar to that phobia of holes or whatever, but with... To me, I feel like I have glaucoma when I look at mo hair sweater, because I'm like,

is it blurry? Am I not picking up on the texture? Mo hair kind of looks like unshaved mesh. If you like shaved Mohair's sweater. Unshaved mesh? That's the name of my, that's my memoir title.

Hell yeah, dude. Oh my God. The Jamie Loftus story by Lil Zam. Forward by Lil Zam. Yeah, if someone answers wool or Mohair, run.

Wow. They're trying to prove something, but it's unclear what. Yeah. Also, I feel like mohair, every time I've seen it, like, or gotten near it, the shit gets on you.

Yeah. It shits. I don't understand why it's so expensive and, like, supposed to be, like, this fancy thing because it looks, first of all,

I think it looks stupid and also, yeah, it gets everywhere. Hey, if you're a mohair advocate, please reach out because I would like to know what's going on with that. I can't wait to read the intense thread on the mohair defense.

It's from an Angoran goat. What? That's the other thing. I guess I don't like animal products like that. So I think it freaks me out to wear something and be like, this used to be alive. So I'm just like, maybe that's why. Well, at least wool is a shaved off, you know, high culture. Yeah. Shave culture.

Yeah. Shave culture is really, yeah, I think we can comfortably say it's getting out of hand. I think that shave culture is really getting out of control. Yeah. Who will you side with? Yeah. Are you, I stand with the unshaved. Yeah.

I mean, if I said I didn't, I would be like an unfeminist at this point. Fantastic. Well, we've settled it. Shireen, thank you so much for joining us today on Le Daily Zeitgeist. You're welcome. What did you say you were? What's the fabric you are? I was going to address you as it, but then I forgot what it was. What do you even call that?

I don't know. It's fucking nylon. I don't know. Fake shit. Okay. Thanks, fake shit. Thank you. Thank you, Mohair.

It was a blast-ish. Wasn't it? Yeah. Ish? No, it was cool. Oh, how dare you wow okay

honestly we're friends I can't believe you said that you don't even have my number that's fine Jack's a great guy why am I on trial now anyway

where can people find you and follow you Shireen you can find me on twitter at shirohero s-h-e-e-r-o h-e-r-o 666

and go retweet that motherfucking ad astra tweet right now do it daddy issues on Twitter at shirohero, S-H-E-E-R-O-H-E-R-O-666. And go retweet that motherfucking Ad Astra tweet right now. Ad Astra, daddy issues in space. The king of that though is Interstellar. Interstellar is the best daddy issues in space movie,

maybe because of the music. It doesn't matter. I'm also on Instagram at shirohero and then Twitter at shirohero666 and I already said that. And oh, me and Anna

you're the super producer of this podcast we have our own podcast called Ethnically Ambiguous and we're going to be in Chicago for the Chicago Podcast Festival on October 16th pull up if you're in Chicago please come see us on October 16th

tickets are we post about it on our Twitter, and we'll put it in the footnotes of this episode as well. So if you're in Chicago, come see Anna and I at the Chicago Podcast Festival. Again, that's October 16th, and tickets will be below. Woo! Hey, is there a tweet you're liking? Oh, there is.

This one made me laugh so hard. Okay. Please let it be Ad astra's the daddy yeah um i don't know i'm just kidding um dana donnelly tweeted uh on the 25th uh woke white women are wild i saw one getting called out for only having white friends and without missing a beat she said i don't really consider anyone my friend. There. Damn. That made me laugh so hard. Way to dodge that one.

I know. Neo, way to dodge. The swerve. Jemay? Hi. Shaved mesh? Hi, Jamie's shaved mesh launches here. You can find me on Twitter at Jamie Loftus Help,

on Instagram at Jamie Christ Superstar. You can see my show, Boss Who Missed Girl, in L.A. or New York in the next month. L.A. on October 5th at the Lyric Hyperion, and in New York on October 20th at Union Hall. Damn. If it's not sold out, I think it's not sold out. Oh, shit. It might be sold out anyway.

And then if you want to see me do stand-up and you live in Washington, dc area you can come on doing a weekend in uh in dc on the 18th and the 19th fantastic come see me there wow wow you're just doing so much i'm doing my best please don't just get so big and fly away you're gonna get so fly you'll fly away i promise um is there a tweet you like uh i will i first want to start by plugging Shireen's Ad Astra tweet. Yes. I'd be remiss. I can't quote it exactly, but it means a lot to me.

And the culture. I think it's telling of our current climate as far as movie making goes, but everything is just a repeating thing of daddy issues. And I wanted to recommend just some fun recommended reading that isn't painful if you want to start your week with it. Fiona Apple gave her first interview in like seven years the other day.

She cold contacted a vulture reporter who I'm a big fan of. Her name is Rachel Handler. Fiona Apple just emailed her and was just like, hey, I want to talk about stuff. And it's like a really cool, it's just like a really cool, life affirming, fun. I love Fiona Apple. Me too. Yeah. And she's like.

She's the fucking, she's the goat. She's the best. And she talks about how she gave all of her royalties from criminal to refugees. Oh, yeah. I remember reading about that. Yeah. Yeah. She's cool.

And then she's got a great anecdote about the first time she saw J-Lo's ass. So highly recommended reading. It'll lift your spirit up. Fiona Apple forever. She's still the fucking coolest.

What I need is a good defense. Well, especially now she's probably getting so many more royalties from that song after being in Hustlers. Exactly, yeah.

Yeah, she's a real one. Oh, is that in Hustlers? Yeah, J-Lo like dances to it. Oh, in Criminal? It's an incredible scene. I got goosebumps. Literally, wow. exactly yeah yeah she's a real one oh is that is in hustlers yeah jlo like dances to it oh the criminal it's an incredible scene i got goosebumps literally wow it's worth it's worth it imagine imagine seeing because the video already had me fucked up so good i like i love people who are like uh a little bit reclusive the way she is and not to spoil too much but she they're they're like do you think it's cool that you've influenced like lana del rey and billy eyelash and she's like whom is that hell like oh she yeah i don't know her she's like

i watched colombo at my house you're like oh i love her i love it shout out to john bryan too she's probably on airplane mode all the time oh yeah she lives in airplane yeah that's that's why i want to be that's your memoir living in apron airplane apron much more problematic gender normative test living in apron mode how i learned to put feminism aside and embrace the home that's a great new like fake woke lady book yeah right at a certain point i. I think it's written by Meghan Trainor. Yeah. Am I rejecting my inner instincts? I am the girl boss of my home, that is. Oh, boy.

CEO of this kitchen. It's like the darkest timeline. And there wasn't a tweet? You just said that one and do the thing? Yes. Yeah, just go to Rachel Handler's Twitter and read that interview. Fantastic.

You can find me at Miles of Grey on Twitter and Instagram. A couple of tweets I like. First is from at ShiroHero666. Oh, I love this one. At Astra, aka another exciting edition of Daddy Issues in Space. Retweet that shit. Yeah, it's funny. It's a classic.

Hashtag cropped and viral. More importantly, Applebee's made it to the moon yeah you'll get that if you watch Ad Astra did you see Ad Astra no but my mom said

she fell asleep oh okay well it is kind of I mean yeah I can see that I'm gonna say I'm gonna go and then I'm not hey

way to show them a couple other ones one's from Blair Saki at Blair Saki it says me after one hit of weed it says Florida woman it's a quote tweet it says Florida woman running for mayor aims to put a sea turtle A couple other ones. One's from Blair Saki at Blair Saki. It says, me after one hit of weed. It says, Florida woman, it's a quote tweet.

It says, Florida woman running for mayor aims to put a sea turtle in office. And the photo is like a little newborn turtle with like its little flippers in there. I don't know why I thought that shit was funny. I think because it had to do with weed. Another one from Tamara Yahia. Oh, yes. Very simple. I can't stop farting.

Mood, mood, mood. And lastly, at Who's Alex? It says, white girls be like, OMG, stop. I hate the word moist. Then say the N word. So, so true. I hate to see it. Anyway, you can find us, this show, The Daily Zeitgeist, at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter,

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Y'all don't watch Top Boy, huh? Okay, anyway. I was like, yeah, uh-huh. Uh-huh, uh-huh. I was like, yeah. I like it. Well, maybe that's why you don't run the ends, mate. So right now, I want to do a track from this.

The music on this is really great. I know Drake is an executive producer on this, but I think, I don't know how much impact he really had on the film itself, but maybe the music. Music is great. This is a track by Azizi Gibson called High. And it has like full on, listen to this track if you like what you hear in this little snippet

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