The Daily Zeitgeist - Advertising = NOT Advertising, Slice Of Hot Sauce? 1.27.21

Episode Date: January 27, 2021

In episode 799, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Alex Edelman to discuss rich people hunting for vaccines, Covid as a case study for climate change, Florida attempting to get the Summer Olympics, hot sauce slices, super bowl commercials, and more!FOOTNOTES: Hollywood Elite in COVID-19 Vaccine Scramble: ‘It’s the Hunger Games Out There’ Wealthy couple chartered a plane to the Yukon, took vaccines doses meant for Indigenous elders, authorities said I’ve Said Goodbye to ‘Normal.’ You Should, Too. CFO Jimmy Patronis to Olympic Committee: Relocate the 2021 Olympics from Tokyo to Florida Frank's RedHot Sauce Will Soon Come in a Sandwich-Ready 'Slice' Form Wary Companies Hesitate on Super Bowl Commercials, Citing Pandemic Coca-Cola Will Sit Out Super Bowl, Joining Pepsi in Benching Soda Ads Pepsi Promises a Super Bowl Halftime Show, Even if the Game Is Canceled Budweiser Joins Coke and Pepsi Brands in Sitting Out First COVID-Era Super Bowl WATCH: Bigger Picture | Budweiser Super Bowl Commercial Why Budweiser and their signature Clydesdales are skipping the Super Bowl for first time in 37 years How Super Bowl ad costs have skyrocketed over the years WATCH: Harrison - Around You Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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aka you see i've got two kids and they love blippy because he poops some butts zeitgang said shut up and start the show but poopy butts are silly they said no no no shut up and start the show that is an aka from a bitter a mean aka from official dickhead living up to his name uh he he didn't like that we spent a half hour at the top of a show uh talking talking about blippy's uh dirty well that. You know what? I can't help you if you didn't find the value in that because the BuzzFeed article said diarrhea shit on his friend's nude ass.

What are you talking about? We're about to kill another half hour talking about this. Alex, I feel like I need to recreate the Blade Runner speech right now. I'm talking about how I've seen things, man. Alex, I feel like I need to recreate the Blade Runner speech right now. Talk about how I've seen things, man. But I am thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray!

There's this place in the corner of my den where I used to sit and drink Kirkland, but I broke the AC and lost my mind. Stripping off clothes, sweat all in my eyes. And I just, you know, thank you to Hannah Soltis, Hannah Ramakvi on the Discord, Ocean Avenue AKs, because I love, dude, staying in the fall. Nah, that's one of my favorite little, you know, sort of syncopations in lyrics, in music. What is that? Who's that? Like a syncopation. Syncopations? No, no. Syncopations in lyrics in music. What is that? Who's that? Like a syncopation. Syncopations?

No, no. Syncopations. I don't know the song. Oh, Ocean Avenue by Yellow Card. If I could find you now, things would get better. How about, I don't know why I wear this light blue sweater. As she wrote. But I don't have a light blue sweater,

so it didn't feel on brand. Oh, man, I could have pretended you were wearing a light blue sweater for the listeners. I know, theater of the mind and all that. Well, we are thrilled to be joined by the hilarious and talented Alex Edelman! Hey, guys. AKA, don't have any AKAs.

There you go. We're thrilled to have you. We were just talking, reminiscing about how we met a year ago. Oh, my God. At Sketch Custom, people were in person before we lost Kobe Bryant

and the world we knew. Man, 2020 wasn't great, was nah you know had its moments we were really i mean i felt like we because we were getting ready you know this that was about to kick off a bunch of tours and shit we're like yo 2020 is a year my man alex is in the building this guy's hilarious like we're going places i was excited i was like 2020 is gonna be my year guys and then uh yeah no it uh did all it all fell apart it was all of our years say yeah or things fall apart and start to shatter as uh the roots might say um uh now we should go with lincoln park uh. Sorry about that.

All right, Alex, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We're going to talk about the pandemic as stress test for the West. Just really showing us ourselves on a very detailed EKG monitor. We are seeing some clogged ass arteries, I would say. We'll talk about how LA's richest pieces of shit are dealing with the line to get the vaccine. And just generally across the West, we'll talk about COVID as a case study for climate change

and what it tells us about how we're going to be able to do during that. Florida is attempting to get the Olympics this summer. We'll read the letter from the CFO of Florida. I didn't even know states had CFOs. But, yeah. Jimmy Patronus, baby. Jimmy Patronus. Jimmy Patronus.

We'll talk about sliceable hot sauce. And we'll talk about what we're looking at as far as Super Bowl commercials this year. All of that. Plenty more. But first, Alex, we like to ask our guest what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I have spent a lot

of time over the last couple of days looking for curtains for the apartment that I'm living in and I think I'll never find them I don't know why. And I want one panel curtains for my kitchen.

And every kitchen set of curtains seems to be like a two-piece bathing suit with a little bit at the top and then a little bit in the middle. And I can't believe that I'm like, this is the height of sickening domesticity where I'm just like, no, those curtains are too blackout. Those curtains are too translucent. I'm not going to be able to. I need curtains that give me privacy and let some light in. Like, it's a really unpleasant, shitty errand.

I wish I had cooler. I also spent a lot of time searching the guy who wrote the song Spirit in the Sky. Oh, why? What'd you learn about him well first of all as much as i want to talk about curtains sorry it's an orthodox jew named norman greenbaum from the boston area he uh was he heard gospel on television thought that sounds easy sat down and wrote the top charting gospel song of all time in 13 minutes jesus christ it took him 13 minutes he looked at the clock it was 1205 he looked at the clock it was 12 22 it took him 13 minutes to write spirit in the sky which has just charted more than any it's not the best gospel song it's the highest

charting gospel song and people send him angry letters because he says there's a lyric where he says i'm not a sinner i've never sinned but i got a friend in jesus and people send him letters about how we're all sinners yeah yeah he writes back like i'm jewish i don't really give a shit i mean i wouldn't say so gospel song i was thinking of a different song but that that's the uh the gonna dadada to the spirit in the sky it's like a 70s like it's like a 70s rock song that is about jesus right like it doesn't feel like actual like the genre of gospel music right it was classified sorry i mean i don't i don't know but it was it's it's listed as it was it was gospel charting it

charted right gospel i mean i guess it's about jesus so that's all you need right it's the second most requested song at funerals really yeah behind danny but um but um but um um that's so interesting when so was he doing it almost as a was like here here these these idiots will love this because it kind of feels like he's like oh that looks real easy he doesn't it as a joke i think he was yeah sort of like captain beefheart band called like the eggplant that ate Chicago or something like that. And he wrote this as a joke. And people were like, this is just such a great gospel song. He's like, no, it's a fucking joke.

And that's that's so interesting. That happens so often. We I've I've talked about it before but the fact that uh that stealer's wheel song stuck in the middle with you was them doing like basically seeing that bob dylan was so successful and being like we're gonna make fun of bob dylan with like a bunch of shitty bob dylan metaphors uh about clowns and jokers and like do an actual shitty bob d Dylan voice during the song. They're going, Clowns to the left of me, jokers.

It's by far their biggest hit of all time. That's the number one song to get tortured to. I'm not sure if most people know that, but that song is behind Danny Boy. Danny Boy is the number... If you haven't seen Reservoir Dogs, that joke will make zero sense to you, but it is. I think everyone's seen that. I think we can assume.

I mean, yeah. I don't know why they call it gospel, maybe just because of the lyrics. Because I wouldn't say it has the actual structure of traditional gospel music sonically. But yeah, I guess in in that sense when they're like well if it's jesus based like that's we'll put it in there in the gospel maybe a bit of lil nas x when yeah they were saying he wasn't country it's a it's a hundred percent of rock

song also it was issued under the name norman green bomb no one was like is this guy sam cook or something like it was uh yeah it seems like it belongs squarely in the uh in the same category as the uh jeremiah was a bullfrog um well what are some other like rock songs that are of that genre of like rock songs that seem like they could have been written by a five-year-old uh but they, they rule for sure. That's not an insult. The, the mash, the theme to mash was Robert Altman said,

okay, so for the theme music, we need something that sounds like it was written by a 10 year old. Yeah. Like literally written by a 10 year old and whoever was writing it, couldn't do it. So Robert Altman's son michael wrote the music and he was like 13 years old and so there was a time where the 13 year old son of

robert altman was pulling in more money and royalties from mash than robert altman was writing the music is that true it really is well mean, I may be messing up the names. Maybe it's not Michael Altman, but I think it is. But the song's called Suicide is Painless. Yeah. Which that kid, that's a 13-year-old name. That's a 13-year-old coming up with that title, because that's some real angsty shit.

Okay, I hate to pull some string. Like, number crunch here, he was 15, apparently. He was 15. I'm so sorry please what's his name michael altman though is it the name you did you got the michael altman two years off on the age so but we'll let it stand yeah i added some precocity to that kid yeah and elvis also was doing like a bit he was doing a fake character to make the session musicians laugh and that's where he got like at first he

was singing like himself like he would sing and then he started doing like a whole thank you like thing like that and people were like no that actually slaps keep doing that and that's how he came up with the thing after like hours of just trying to sing in a straightforward way what i was i was i opened for beck for a little while on the road back when people still i know uh but when people still did that i did stand up and it was great and one of his um one of the folks that was tory with him told me that uh when you know that loser which is one of his most famous songs where he was in the studio and he kept fucking something up. And I've not clear.

I've not clarified this directly with Beck, but I've had this confirmed by other people, which is that he was like, he started, he started singing about how he was a loser and they're like, we're going to use that. Yeah. He's like,

I'm a loser, baby. So why don't you come? I mean, like he's, he's unbelievable. So it's not like he's he's a fuck up but i mean yeah i can imagine that people doing shit for laughs musicians are so painfully earnest

that sometimes when they're occasionally not taking themselves seriously maybe it's better than the stuff that they're doing right because they get out of their own way right and it like just get by doing something silly or something it just like gets the it clears the signal for them or whatever whatever it is also there's something about the alchemy of doing something simple yeah and like you know my favorite there's a piece by eric johnson who's a great guitarist called cliffs of dover which is like famously like one of the hardest pieces to play on guitar but it's got a really simple riff at the center of it and he was like yeah i was taking my groceries in for the car i rode in like five minutes yeah uh sweet child

of mine was a finger stretching exercise that slash used to do really yeah there's like a bunch of stories like that where it's just like these very simple things and like musicians just are too complicated. They get too complicated with it. They're too advanced. You may know Custer Dover from being the hardest song to play in Guitar Hero, but it is very, very good. I mean, through the Fire and Flames

on the hardest mode is also pretty intense too. Oh yeah. My Guitar Hero freaks out there alex what is something you think is underrated i've been ranting all day yesterday about a thing but it's also music so i'm like maybe i shouldn't do it but underrated is um i would say mark cohen's walking in memphis which is stuck in my head but uh but instead in in the theme of getting off the track you know what's underrated just having plain um rice okay just having warm rice with something is incredibly underrated as warm rice with soy sauce is extremely decent snack or warm rice with like seaweed

for or like the dried seaweed thing like i had that for i've had that for lunch a couple of days and maybe it's just my actually this is only acceptable in a pandemic i'm realizing that as i say it that this type this type of lifestyle is only acceptable but like i've had like microwavable rice and it's pretty good and i think yeah microwavable rice i am just discovering it now hasn't is that the saddest underrated that you guys know had you're you're honoring right you're you're honoring the way of my people as we've been doing it for centuries we have been eating the rice i mean yeah japanese uh every meal is you have to have rice on the table like plain yeah so i've also i've done the thing too where

you can buy like the microwavable like you pop it in for 90 seconds rather than like having to do a whole thing of it uh and yeah it's very it's very i i even have her majesty my partner she's even fucking with the white rice like being like how about that and then just a piece of salmon and then we put that on the rice i'm like look at you look at you. Look at you. Thank you. Also, my girlfriend color-coded my bookshelf, and I was furious when she did that. Absolutely furious.

I was like, it's categorized by pretentiousness. How dare you? And now I'm like, it's nice. Kind of nice? Yeah. It's kind of nice. Yeah, it looks really good. I'm thinking about doing that with my kids, uh,

children's book, bookshelf. Uh, how long is that going to last though? Yeah. Zero, like to that night, but there's, it's currently a complete mess and you can't find anything.

So, uh, we got too many books. Uh, yeah. Rice is in my in-laws household. There's always a rice cooker just with hot rice in it that you can just like pop open, get a spoonful of rice at any time. We have a rice cooker.

We will often have like for a month stretch, just some rice warming in the in the rice cooker. I tried to make rice the other day and uh i don't know i think it was the wrong kind of rice uh because it was machine what's that wait i'm the rice cooker machine you got a korean fam we have same rice you have an auto rice cooker right you just put the shit in you fuck that shit in it was brown, and for some reason, it didn't cook all the way, and it was still hard. And I put water in it multiple times. I cooked it multiple times. I was like, surely this will make it soft.

And it was just dry and hard. And I was ashamed and wish I had shared that on the show. What is something, Alex, you think is overrated? Fran Lebowitz. If I wanted to hear an old Jew complain, I'd listen to me. I am so. They're fine. They're basic complaining observations that everyone has. They're fine. They're basic complaining observations that everyone has.

They're not there. I'm actually not kidding. I'm getting more worried about saying this on a recorded medium than I've ever been about saying anything. I don't want to get canceled for. I like friendly. It's a lot. I've read everything she's ever published, which is like three books. And they're small i just don't understand why someone who's basically been tweeting since 1979 is this grand doyen of like curmudgeonliness it's fine it is the and by the way everyone's like oh

she's such an avant-garde figure everyone enjoys her i don't know a single like by the way, everyone's like, oh, she's such an avant-garde figure. Everyone enjoys her. I don't know a single... By the way, I don't even hate Fran Lebowitz. I think Fran Lebowitz is great. I just don't think Fran Lebowitz needs to be inaugurated into the brown paper bag pantheon of New York City where everyone's like, she's just... You see her on the street. She's not a deity. She's not a deity. And so now there's like a Martin Scorsese documentary where he laughs at her bond moths about how people walk too slow on the sidewalk,

which is the same thing. Everyone's been complaining about since 1984. I don't understand why she's so famous. Pretend it's a city is what it's called because that's her. That's her joke is pretend it's a city and act like there are people around you. It's one bit and it's around you. It's one bit. It's one bit.

It's one bit, and I'm done with it. I want to see the positive Fran Lebowitz spins. I know that she's angry. That's fine. I'm angry, too. Just show me something. Also, spicy tuna, crispy rice. Very overrated.

While we're on the rice topic. Spicy tuna, crispy rice. It's everywhere. Wow, I was about to say epidemic, but we've got to be careful about our word choices. very overrated while we're on the rice. It's everywhere. It's an, it's a, it's wow. I was about to say epidemic, but we've got to be careful about our word choice. It's everywhere.

Spice tuna, crispy rice, and they're not all created equal. Some are really good. Some really bad, but as a concept, it's overrated. And I like now there's a restaurant in Glendale,

California near where I live. And they have a sign outside that says no spice tuna, crispy rice, which I appreciate. Thank God. I mean, it's, No Spice Tuna Crispy Rice, which I appreciate. Thank God. Oh, really? I mean, it's... Yeah.

Look, I know, like, Nobu did it first. And that was, like, the thing. And everyone was, oh, fuck it, you had the crispy rice. And then it just became, like, the cupcake phenomenon of, like, Japanese restaurants. Where it's like, you gotta have a crispy rice thing. And, like, Japanese people were like, for who? Because we don't want that like that ain't no i'm not my when i go there with like my family or my mom or whatever

we're not like yo we gotta get the crispy rice it's just a very uh i think because like i think it being at nobu made it this sort of it elevated it to this idea of like fancy japanese restaurant dish um but yeah yeah and it's like more fast food sorry i'm very concerned about my i don't want to be i don't want to have my credentials as a devout new york jew revoked so please please guys be kind if you are big friendly woods and please i also don't want friendly woods to find out because she's scary lady so i think you could match wits with frank yeah i think you'd be fine i think it would actually be good for. I think you could match wits with Fran. Yeah, I think you'd be fine. I think it would actually be good for you.

I think you should start a feud with Fran Leewood. It could be like East Coast, West Coast thing now that you're in LA. It would be great if Fran Leewood's just like, I don't beef down. She's like, get your numbers up, ho. Don't beef down. I got a Martin Scorsese special under my belt son i don't need you

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epidemic in the um entertainment you know it's you know it's like good because variety wrote it because they know like they are these people so it's they're telling on themselves you know it's like good because variety wrote it because they know like they are these people so it's they're telling on themselves you know like they know the agents and the studio execs and all these soup like the geffins and all those people they hear this shit and they put in an article that isn't like as critical of the of this phenomenon it's more like wow the lengths people will go huh uh without like having any kind of take on the morality of it so yes they are doing fucking all kinds of things to like legal options which is like how do i jump the line so what they'll do they're been they'll take like private physicians and go to these like bespoke health care places and like lean on the physician be like what the

fuck bro you're usually able to get me fucking anything get me the fucking vaccine or being like what can i donate or asking friends who work on the boards of hospitals like what can i do for you personally can you help me somehow get the vaccine and that's that's one way or other people are taking private jets to florida for like vaccination tourism as they call it uh just to get there because it's much easier to fuck around in Florida. And that's just the legal shit. There's another guy, Dr. Wizenga in Beverly Hills, said that he's been offered, like, bribes in the tens of thousands by individuals to get their whole families or whatever vaccinated before everyone else. to get their whole families or whatever vaccinated before everyone else um they're also just saying like he's also seen people trying to ask him how they could quote transiently get into the healthcare profession or on staff at nursing homes so they qualify for early vaccines um yeah so i

get it the the rollout has been a shit show obviously obviously, like my own parents who are over 65 and are able to get a vaccine. It's been very difficult or, you know, it's been a start stop process, but I've been getting there. But it's just sort of like, I'm not sure. Like, I don't understand why they think that gives them the right to, I don't know, like cut the line in front of a fucking essential medical worker or what they think happens once they're vaccinated. Like, oh, now world now everything's now Spago think happens once they're vaccinated. Like, Oh, now world, now everything's now Spago will reopen because I'm vaccinated.

Like what's the lack of, yeah. Awareness as a member of a community that it requires to do that. Like as, as the people who are most able to continue to distance and stay out of harm's way, most able to continue to distance and stay out of harm's way they're so fully bought into the like sort of me first individualism of the west that they can't they can't even see that or i don't know they don't want to uh there is a uh a story in vancouver uh but it does have an entertainment industry connection uh a rich uh-year-old and his wife,

who is a 32-year-old actress who was in the movies Fat Man and Chick Fight. That's one movie? Good movies. Like Batman and the Joker, Fat Man and Chick Fight? No, those are separate movies. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. That sounds kind of high concept.

But they chartered a plane to a tribal land in the yukon uh that has 100 uh people and posed as local shopkeepers uh to get the vaccine uh when it was being given to elderly uh indigenous people that is elaborate that is some heist movie shit yeah yeah that's like a heist movie where you're rooting against the people paul it's like it's like the worst oceans 11 right you're like ah god i mean i hope they're caught right it's ecaterina baker and uh her husband's name is like rodney baker or something like that or is the name of the couple rodney vancouver just went down a couple spots on my favorite city list because of that i get no respect i tell you i get no respect because i'm a petty criminal. I tell you. Because I'm appropriating your indigenous culture to get a vaccine.

Whoa. I got a fake mustache, and that was sussed out pretty quick. I kept doing an Indian accent. It was the wrong kind. Oh, God. Oh, God. It ends up being yeah it sounds like a really fucked up scene from the office that would have actually happened where michael tries to get a vaccine on on on like tribal ground

that's yeah i don't oh that's so funny and his and he's has a rationale for it that he's definitely by the way yeah like my dad got a vaccine my dad is an icu doctor in boston he's one of the first to get a vaccine and i was relieved but it's by no means like a get out of jail free card you've got to be really careful and you can still pass it on to people and it's a like it's really not great yeah get it even if you have the you can still it's it's it's scary yeah considering the environment we're in too it's like yeah you can but that doesn't change the overall picture the situation you're in you're so right about spaga like these people do think they're like well i've got vaccinated when spaga

when spaga yeah they're like they're gonna be like let us in wolfgang but you know have you heard about so in la there's something called overflow lines where they can't waste these vaccines once they're open so you can wait on an overflow line and get a vaccine if you know people don't show up for their appointments or if people can't show up for their appointments or if they've got extra stuff left at the end of the day so there is a way to get the vaccine legally it still doesn't seem great though because the la times wrote an article a few days ago about how you know the there's a district in la that's 97 percent uh you know uh black and latino and their overflow line was

almost exclusively white people who had heard about it as sort of like a life hack and were coming to get it and they asked a bunch of people on the line if they thought it was okay and everyone was like yeah sure but don't use my name in the article right so they know it's a I mean it's it's a tough one because

on one hand like philosophically like you can't waste these vaccines like that is right. Absolutely fucked up. And I think the tone of it, because we were actually discussing it like Daniel and Anna and I actually over the weekend because we were like reading that article had a very weird tone about people who were like trying not to waste it. But it just seemed to more be like, look at these youngsters just fucking trying to get the vaccines or whatever, which I get on one hand. Yeah. Like the,

like going somewhere to a community that already has a lack of resource to be like, can I get your overflow? Uh, it's definitely not like the best look, but then you also like wish like, why can't we like have more, you know,

like, I know there's a lot of people having trouble getting the vaccines to like to get to a place to get it that right in that same breath, like, couldn't you have you know like they're talking about having paramedics or ambulances be mobile like vaccinators who will pull up to you and be like here's your vaccine is that you boom boom boom to like help address you know all the fucking holes that we have in the distribution plan but yeah it seems like

i mean that's systemic failure i i feel like with the overflow lines, that is systemic failure and just a system that is based on white supremacy and not paying attention to the distribution in communities that are primarily persons of color like that, that is just a symptom of that overall failure. The, the people who flew up to the tribal lands to steal those vaccines, uh, face a $900 fine for doing that. So it's like, there's just so many systemic like ways that the systemically were kind of fucked,

you know, understand. I mean, like what we're finding out right now is who would push women and children out of the way to get into the lifeboats in the titanic yeah it's just like would you dress up as a woman or child to get on yeah that's the billy zane character right now trying to get into the lifeboats but it is like you say like why can't we have a better rollout like i i think now we will because there was a good op-ed a couple i'm sure you guys maybe covered it but there's a good op-ed a couple of weeks ago that like biden's vaccine rollout plan

is insanely obvious yeah and starting from zero yeah and it's saying that no one's tried it yet and you know at the same time like like you know the optics of the 21st century are you know something that because because miles is right like those vaccines shouldn't go to waste it's just figuring out a better way to give them out to people that's yeah you know and on top of that in communities like that access to a computer and shit like that is not the same as being like, OK, Santa Monica, here's the website. Sign up for vaccines. And another thing I just want to say to even listeners, too, if you know older people, ask them if they need help getting a vaccine.

Because let me tell you, that shit is some of these websites are fucking so backwards that even someone in their 30s, 20s, whatever, are like, this is fucked up. that even someone in their 30s, 20s, whatever, are like, this is fucked up. I implore you to check on elderly people who are eligible to and offer to sign them up because that's a whole other barrier to entry with this thing where it's like, we have to find a way to make it as easy as possible for everyone.

Because yeah, a lot of times they're figuring out, a lot of older people are like, oh, I didn't know, or like, I don't have a phone that does internet or when I do, it's very sparse. So yeah, just another sign that we all have to help each other, you know, when obviously the official rollout

isn't adequate enough. Yes. I mean, this is kind of a slippery slope, but this does seem like the sort of, like not just a 900 fine being level like leveled up so it's more but this also feels like you know we need to have a a population going forward that is willing to think collectively uh as we're about to talk about with like the many parallels between COVID and climate change.

And like the, the fact that these people are outing themselves, like I feel like, I don't know, at the very least we should be using that as information for like how, how to deal with those people going forward and you know, how to not necessarily punish them, but get them out of the way, uh, you know,

in terms of what, what our plans are and how we're going to run as society, because right now they're just, we'll, we'll talk later about this Florida attempt to get the Olympics this summer, where this guy writes a letter to the love it, uh,

Olympic commission and his first, uh, paragraph or second paragraph, he says like like i can put you in contact or make give you the right connections help you make the right contacts it's like there's so much of the current economy and just like how the world works that's all based on like connections and like rich people doing favors for other rich people and like we really need a drastic shift in that shit um yeah yeah because also like our consumer culture is so based around like exclusivity and things like that and having the plug or having access that it's like it perverts all these other things too like of just

sort of like oh i could get that like you can't get that i can get that because i'm here or whatever and that's the the mac the mentality of these people trying to get vaccines and and things like that but also i wonder if it's just also just a bit of like just nihilism from these people who are like fuck it dude it's it's fucked and the only way i'm gonna get through this is because i'm richer than everyone and that's just how i'm that's how i'm rolling now fuck it yeah and i think you know like you mentioned with in some of the cases it's like people trying to get it for their whole family and like i can appreciate you know when you have a loved one who you're really trying to protect but you know that i still think that there is an inherently rotten set of ideals at the core of this like it when

you say consumer culture i'm thinking of like uh you know sneaker drops and shit like that but that's at least a democratically like people who show up first get the first shoes or you know and yeah but they but it's been perverted by bot but i'm saying like it used to be it's like anything used to be like that and now there are people who are perverting it exploiting and being like okay i have bots right to get as extract as many sneak pairs of sneakers and then i flip those blah blah blah like because it's all this idea that there's yes there's one value to something and then there's a whole other value to it to someone else like as a resale or something that's different or that i have access to and we just don't there's just like

yeah you're right like understanding this is not a commodity it's not a thing that is like it's not a fucking snickers bar or a jeff coons piece like this is a it's a it's a vaccine that's being provided by the the government in a way that is actually kind of this is a poison word but socialist it's just like this is for everybody this is the people who need it first are going to get it and you can't skip the line this is this is in some ways extremely egalitarian although as miles points out of course it's not if you can't access the computer but you know it's it's this is this point-to-point distribution is not something that we're used to as um you know as people live in a capitalist society yeah so but i have more money so that means i'm better so how come i don't get vaccine I think it's literally the vaccine I could get. Right.

But I mean, they, these, a lot of the times these are people who, you know, they bought into that idea the most that, uh, you know, when they didn't have all the,

obviously a lot of these people are people who inherited their wealth, like America's, uh, as based on like inheritance as, uh, any country in the world. and it's ridiculous that they have this or that we have this individualism ideal at the center of it and pull yourself up by your bootstraps because it's so much but but rich people have a way of self-reinforcing this idea

that like they've earned it they deserve it because yeah and it's just very because it's reinforced in every other in every other way you know i got a text a couple days ago from someone who you know cares about me and my girlfriend and they were like it was before the articles came out it was the information about overflow lines that they had heard from a friend it was word of mouth that was spreading in sort of the western la community that they could go get a shot and they went and got a shot and they were like you should go do that you should take a chair and sit out there at you know five go get a chair and sit out there at 5 a.m and and see if when it opens you can be first in line and it just didn't sit right and so it didn't do it but but it was uh you know people it's gonna be weird next couple months the radio sweepstakes

like we're gonna do hands on a hard body for this uh covet vaccine wherever whoever can keep their hands on the uh i do want to talk about this new york times op-ed uh from a client climate scientists uh pointing out that we could use this as an opportunity like the you know global pandemic that we're all living through that has completely upended what normal life was heading into the year 2020. We could use that to create a new normal. And basically, we have to use that to create a new normal because what used to be our normal lives has been vastly disrupted. rebuild our lives in a way that is going to avoid the global catastrophe that we're all headed for from climate change. But his op-ed is very actionable and very much like, and so we must do this to do... But another way to look at this was a test case of how willing as americans we are to change our lives to accommodate the freedom and survival of others and it's we've just been shockingly bad at it um like they talk about the first thing we have to do let go the idea that life will ever be normal again and i mean just

look at the story we were just talking about. Like everybody is, uh, pushing each other out of the way to get the vaccine so they can go back to fucking Spago or whatever. Um, and like, I just don't think like all this op ed, uh,

any analysis we give, like there's, there's just down to the core, down to the very DNA of what what america is and what the western cultural ideals are uh is is rotten or is incompatible with the continued survival of the species like where none of this will matter like if people can't be taught to value collectivism and you know you see it in pop culture i was i was saying like the the martian is like a fantasy where the global community kind of joins together on one specific mission i'm reading this book the three body problem that

has like kind of a similar-ish ideal, or at least moments of that. And I think we are fantasizing about that idea, that we could be a more collectivist society. But I think we currently have to go to the realm of fantasy to even approach that, because we're so far from it right now. Collectivism? what is that some lord of the rings shit right yeah it's just it is basically fantasy at this point i mean it's tough because this uh has been easier on some people than it has been on others, obviously. And some of the industries that have been built over the last century rely on people using them. And their survival now is predicated on the idea that this is somehow temporary.

And we're going to lose... the idea that this is somehow temporary. And so, and we're going to lose like a big, I mean, the biggest issue of the election cycle after this next one is going to be what happens to jobs that are lost to automation and, you know, putting, putting everybody into, you know, domiciles and letting this life continue ad nauseum or, or cycling through various things like it, it'll have an impact.

And, but yeah, I mean, it does seem Greta Thunberg was saying the same thing. Like, yeah, if we can do this for a pandemic, we should be able to do this for,

for, for something else world threatening, but it's not like, you know, that just, I know I I'm worried here that I sound like a little conservative. But like the deaths from like Maricopa County's numbers for overdoses came out yesterday and there were 700 more deaths from overdoses in the last in 2020 than there were in 2019. And that's one county in Arizona.

were in 2019 and that's one county in arizona and like you know i'm not saying uh you know the republican talking point is that this is worse than no lockdown and that's not true but um but an indefinite lockdown or the prospect of further lockdowns like i can see that taking a real you know and part of me also thinks that this is an irresponsible solution. This is a sledgehammer solution, a lockdown where, where, where we should be advanced enough as a species to take scalpel solutions to the problems like we should. But,

you know, I know that's, it's, it's, I feel like I sound like really unfunny right now. Like this is not what, what I, what as I,

I'm also a comedian, so I should, I shouldn't be trusted. And my job depends on people uh getting together in in large spaces so i am both biased and uninformed but uh with that said i uh yeah i i don't know i i think it's an i think it's an interesting idea yeah well i think the despair deaths are obviously a phenomenon just across the country that we're not addressing in general. And like so much of that has to do with inequality.

And again, the messages that are reinforced in people's minds of what success looks like or what it means to be happy or what you have to have. And yeah, I mean, it's just like that's why this whole thing is such an omni crisis like it it this whole pandemic is just like it it's just showing all of the things that we have to address urgently to try and bring some sense of equilibrium uh back to like this place but yeah it's it's it's definitely trying yeah i don't i don't think it's i don't think there's a easy solution i also i'm not suggesting like we change reality so that like people don't like getting together in groups or anything like that. But, um,

just that just at a very basic level, this central, uh, myth, uh, of Americanism that, that it's all pull yourself up by your bootstraps, can't accept help,

you know, rewriting successful people's stories to cut out all the incredible amounts of help that they got from their families and from the business partners that they cut out of these deals. That stuff is all poisonous and I feel like needs to more and more be viewed as such

and we need to right like rewrite uh some of this history and some of our pop culture so that we acknowledge uh that that is a myth and that we need each other and we need to have like a more of a collectivist mentality if we're gonna uh continue on and like, like, I think there are creative solutions to a lot of the problems that people treat as intractable with both the pandemic and with fossil fuels that, like, will... If, when we put our mind to it,

like, I do think we can come together and, like, act in a way that is beneficial to the species as a whole. I just think that there is this poisonous myth that is keeps pulling us like it's like this gravitational pull of uh the american founding myth that really keeps fucking things up i do believe that i don't know is it is it too starry-eyed to think that we'll figure it out like like i i do think that we'll eventually transition completely out of away from fossil fuels like i think we will you know eventually figure out a way to like put more oxygen back

instead of taking instead of taking it out and and uh in terms of like carbon sequester and things like that like environmental science is really complicated but it's also becoming more and more popular as a field and people are yeah spending more and more time in it but but yeah obviously the problem is now so the the question is what are we what are we doing about it now but i also think it's interesting to think about how we're going to come out of this pandemic because some people are like oh it's going to be the roaring 20s and people are going to fucking go to nightclubs every night. And I think what actually is going to happen is that people who used to do it every night now will be comfortable doing it. I don't think anyone now who was a season ticket holder to a Major League Baseball team feels like they need to go to every game.

I think season ticket holders are like, we can go to three Braves games a year. Or we could go, if we're a fan of the Mets or the Pirates, we can go to one game a year. But it's really, we'll see what happens after this, whether or not

everyone's exploding into vacations or if people are like, you know what, a trip to the supermarket is enough for me. So like, yeah, let's see how people's behavior changes. Yep.

Well, speaking of, uh, changes, let's talk about, uh, this Florida CFO real quick. Um,

he reached out to the president of, uh, the Olympic committee, I guess, and is offering up, uh uh the sunshine state as a new location if tokyo keeps fucking around with this uh we're too scared of the pandemic thing this letter is the most florida like agro-capitalist fucking shit it's so weird this guy first of all yeah like you're saying cfo of the state of florida what uh i guess so yeah jimmy patronus who sounds like a molly dealer

yes that's his whole vibe his name is jimmy dealer at hogwarts it's like his whole fucking perfect hey go to jimmy patronus he's got the he's the plug um he wrote this this letter is so wild because it's like it's full of fantastic just you know let's ignore the pandemic takes and also just dunking on people so yeah like you're saying uh jack in the beginning he was talking about how uh you know with media reports of leaders in japan privately concluding that they are too concerned about the pandemic for the 2021 Olympics to take place. There is still time to deploy a site selection team to Florida to meet with statewide. OK, we get it.

You want that. Japan is too pussy about the pandemic to have it. Apparently, it was amazing that he was able to type that while making the jerk off hand motion he was clearly making while while typing it yeah i mean look the the ghost is in the ink you can see it right there um and then goes on to say just to be like yo desantis is like this the letter goes on quote when most of the major states were shutting down their economies we were fortunate enough to have a governor that recognized the important balance of fighting the virus with keeping the economy open moreover governor desantis has partnered with private blah blah blah blah okay great you you had tips to ron desantis who's absolute whatever um they keep going to talk about how florida has been fine for

other things too state of florida successfully allowed sports to take place like the NBA. Additionally, our international tourist destinations like Disney parks have been open and operating safely in Florida for some time. In fact, Disney serves as an incredible model for how to run a complex organization in the midst of COVID-19. False. We've talked about how much of a shit show that place is. There's no mask compliance. We've talked about how much of a shit show that place is. There's no mask compliance.

They're photoshopping masks on people on Splash Mountain photos because they don't want it to get out that the place is not really doing that great in terms of safety. And like the NBA, like that's these aren't one to one comparisons, my man. That was a fucking bubble where there weren't even fans. So what are you positing that it'll be a bump like the state will fucking cut itself off i mean i would i have no problem with that but uh what is the exact logic here of being able to have the olympics in the united states it's not just florida it's technically we're in the united states where we are not doing well with this pandemic at all. So, Jimmy, please. Hey, but you know, please contact my office at 850-413-4900 to schedule a meeting.

Come on, Jimmy. Really? You think that's what they're... The IOC is going to be like, hey, he's got a point. Yo, hit this dude up. Do you have an 8500 number? 850. 8500 would be funny. Call me at 8500 8 is that the real number did they put that that's his number real number is this yeah his letter is published on

his on the website which is because i was like what my florida cfo.com which was like is this real like that's not even a government website. Can we call them? All I'm saying, Miles, is you speak fluent Japanese. We have this dude's phone number. What's his number? 850 413 2842.

This is the comms office for the CFO. I mean, that's... Hey! Let's see. Use a European accent. Let's see.

I mean, they got to pick up. What if I'm the Olympic committee? Thank you for calling the communications office of CFO and State Fire Marshal Jimmy Patronus. Jimmy Patronus! We can't take your call right now, but please leave a message and we will return it. If you require assistance immediately, try emailing us at communications.cfo.com. Okay. Record your message at the tone.

When you are finished, hang up or press pound for more options. Hi, Jimmy. My name is Alex Edelman. I am a Bostonian and, look, long-time fan of Olympic sports. My brother, Adam Edelman, competed in the 2018 Winter Olympics in Pyeongchang. And listen, I am launching a rival bid. I want Boston to host the Summer Olympics. I want the

marathon to go from Fenway Park. We have a Boston marathon course. We have it already set up. We don't know why you're doing this. Frankly, Boston is way better suited to host the Olympics. Please call me to discuss. My phone number is 617.

Happy to argue about it and listen i've got the plug all right bye great patronus patronus patronum i hope he calls you he's he won't but but i mean it's it's insane that first of all i am one of these people that believe that the olympics works when, you know. Oh, yeah. By the way, please bleep my number. I'm not Jay Vetrana's. I don't want people having my phone number.

But I, like, the Olympics can be great. It was great for L.A. in 1984. It was, you know, it was bad for Sarajevo. It was good for Barcelona. It was good for London 2012. it was bad for it was it was bad for sarajevo it was it was it was good for barcelona it was good for london 2012 it was bad for sydney like the olympics is a site specific thing it's a huge infrastructural challenge and part of the complex pitching process for the olympics is trying to promise the olympics the ioc that hey you're not just gonna bulldoze a bunch of homeless shelters and put up a stadium and so like you can't just be like hey why don't you have the

olympics it doesn't fucking work that way i can so dumb they've got a ton of facilities man ton of facilities and they i do feel like one of the things they brag about is being able to just put up these huge facilities and arenas within a year. There's no healthy way to do that for your community unless you already have all the infrastructure. Like LA obviously already has a bunch of really beautiful waterways that they'll be holding the Olympic events at. The LA River, I can already picture. Oh, for the kayaking? The kayak races in the LA River. That'll be cool.

Yeah. Look, LA is complicated. 84 is the only, like, the model for good Olympics. But, I mean, right now the no Olympics campaign here is pretty strong. Yeah. Let's take a quick break uh and when we come back uh we will talk about sliceable hot sauce this summer the nation watched as the republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago

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the fact that he's the state fire marshal and CFO. That sounds like CFO was just tacked on there. Can you buy these jobs or something? Or make them up? I'm also Marky the Panhandle, the state mascot. Marky the Panhandle. I do everything around here. I'm the groundskeeper at Everglades National Park,

southern corner. I'm the bridge repairman from Key Biscayne to Key West. Jimmy Patronus, my business card is full. Everything. I guess it's just the equivalent of being the controller. We call it a controller. I think that's just what it is. They're just being real corporate about it.

I'm like the CFO giving it that rather than calling it the state controller. Just imagine they're like, hey, we had a pretty good Olympics, guys. We lost three triathletes to crocodiles during the swing portion. Gators, sir. I'm sorry. Oh, that's right. I'm so sorry. He ain't from here.

Yeah, it's insane. Insane, too. But hey, look, a Florida Olympics is not a bad idea, but just not. Also, Japan, let them have this. They've been nailing the. Yeah, well, I don't know. It's tough. I think right.

Just in general, until you can guarantee safety for all, why are we talking about this that's just that's where the conversation should you know what shut down I look as someone who went to the Olympics in 2018 shut it down like just have bubble competitions because frankly most of the events are empty because the tickets go to corporate sponsors so you'll be at a figure skating event that's sold out and tickets are going for you know hundreds of dollars on the street and the event's empty because the actual tickets are sitting on the desk of some middle manager at goodyear in detroit like it just they don't have it's not a spectator friendly event anyhow like put them. I wonder if that's also what's happening with the vaccine is all the vaccines are sitting on the desk of some middle manager and Goodyear. It's like you need to get corporate sponsorship, bro. Come on.

Hey, what are all those vials? Ah, shit. I was supposed to use these, wasn't I? Let's talk about a couple of the spoils of capitalism. We have a fruit leather version of hot sauce, a sliceable hot sauce, that was just... I mean, its growth has been accelerated because it appeared on Shark Tank. And guest star Alex Rodriguez bought into the concept with a $200,000 investment.

So, yeah, get ready to never see this ever. Well, it started like it was a Kickstarter for ketchup slices, and people were like, ooh, this is interesting. And I'm like, no, I don't want a condiment that like i chew through that's not no anyway so the newest development is because alex rodriguez came through with the 200k they're like okay well now we're going we're collaborating with name brain name brand hot sauces so now they're offering frank's Red Hot Original Cayenne and Secret Aardvark Habanero Hot Sauce

as their new slices. Now what you get is an 8 slice pack for $5.99. And to that I say fuck no. Goodbye. Get out my face. Hot sauce in small amounts. It's free.

I don't pay for a condiment i won't do it a dried out version that's chewy slices for sick you can buy the bottled shit i don't understand what the advantage is at this point what do you think i am made of money yeah do you see me chartering a plane to the yukon to to cheat indigenous people out of vaccines no i'm not spending that money on hot sauce fruit leather yeah you go to you go to any place and grab handfuls and put them in your pockets yes uh another way people are spending their money that i wanted to highlight is uh budweiser so oh can i just say one thing i just have to have my auntie frank's screed really quick because i do not like frank's hot sauce i don't think it's hot sauce i think it's this weird wing sauce that people call hot sauce and i don't like the difference it's just

it's it's not like a hot sauce you know like a tabasco is a hot sauce to me crystal is a fucking hot sauce but frank's is just this abomination it's not it's not doing what it's supposed to it's like when lil wayne tried to play guitar like it ain't it i see what you're doing but no nobody wanted this or needed this the only thing i know about hot sauce is that Hillary Clinton carries a bottle in her bag. So that's the. Claims to. Everything I know about hot sauce. After Beyonce claims to.

Yeah. Hillary. Yeah. I know. I was making, I was making fun. Right. I was.

All right. Let's talk about Superbowl commercials real quick because. Yeah. It seems like a lot of companies don't really know how to Super Bowl commercial this year. There are companies that are deciding not to buy Super Bowl ads like Budweiser because it costs more than $5 million for a 30-second slot. And people are worried if they're funny, it may seem insensitive. If they're somber and reflective, they might depress people. And you don't want to hire Jeff Goldblum to dress up like his character from Independence Day to sell life insurance for nothing. Earlier this month, Coca-Cola announced that they would not be buying an ad in the Super Bowl, claiming they would instead, quote, ensure we are investing in the right resources during these unprecedented times, which is, I think, the vaguest corporate statement ever made.

Ensure we're investing in the right resources during these unprecedented times unless you're coming out being like yo the nfl is like a modern plantation where it's just built on a pile of discarded bodies who break themselves for very little support after retirement and because of that we are no longer buying ads right then i get it yeah i want i wish there was one radical conglomerate i wish it was one just one company that made hand soap or something like that. And it was just like, I wish it was a Ben and Jerry's, but huge.

Like, right. I wish Ben and Jerry's wasn't just partially owned by Unilever and Unilever every single day was like, just so you know, we're for killing all firefighters. And you're like, what,

why? And they're like, we're the radical conglomerate we have to surprise people and this is what we do but i've written some super bowl ads um and yeah and they're they're fun and they it's the one time as like copywriters they're just like hey do whatever you want like it's an unlimited budget like we could get william hurt if you need i don't know why he's the example of a star i'm thinking i love it third third uh third builds uh star of broadcast news william hurt but i i national treasure yeah i mean i uh seems like a bad guy but uh i know for sure

yeah horrible man but i do think that do think that doing it this year, you don't know the dollar value of what the Super Bowl is going to be. That's really the reason that companies won't be buying Super Bowl ads because they don't know what they're getting. And usually the things that people try to sell during the Super Bowl, they sell, you know, these are money items, things that people spend money on people spend their disposable income on the items that are advertised during super bowl they buy

beer they buy cereal they buy uh peanuts they buy you know fucking you know insurance of different kinds or domain names and things like that coke and pepsi and now it's hard to know what people are spending their where people are going to be spending their disposable income this next year. It's hard to know what the marketing value is. So I'm not surprised. One miscalculation, I think, is that people are saying part of that calculus

that went into not buying is that these brands were worried the Super Bowl might not happen because there could be a surge in COVID right before it. That's not going to stop the Super Bowl. That's not going to stop. They're going to... You mean a surge in COVID

the last five months? What do you think is happening here? Tom Brady could be sneezing in everyone's face the day of the Super Bowl. They'd be like, yeah, he has COVID, but he's still playing. Like, it's the Super Bowl.

I mean, his parents have it currently. I mean, when the Dodgers won, Justin Turner tested positive, and he was running out there celebrating, and we very quickly were like, ah, you know. Yeah. He just won. Coca-Cola. So Coke announced they weren't going to be doing the Super Bowl.

Pepsi. Coca-Cola. Coke announced they weren't going to be doing the Super Bowl. Pepsi, now there's this arms race to not be doing Super Bowl ads. Pepsi was like, we won't be advertising at the Super Bowl except Mountain Dew, a bunch of Pepsi-owned snacks

are running commercials during the Super Bowl. Pepsi, the beverage Pepsi, is the sponsor of the halftime show. And they're so committed to the halftime show that they claimed even if the game was canceled, there would still be a halftime show. Who's doing the halftime show? Bruno Mars or someone? The Weeknd. Oh, okay. Great.

That's not a good one. Yeah, not always the always the i mean unless he's doing house of balloons right yeah he seems like a very uh niche performer for the super bowl but i guess that uh blinding light song was a big hit um yeah but i'm saying personally now budweiser is claiming uh they're making headlines for pulling their ads from the super bowl uh for the first time since 1983 uh instead they've pledged to donate the money they would have spent on the ad to coronavirus vaccination efforts uh sounds great uh except they're still buying four minutes worth of ads for their other products during the super bowl so uh their vaccine awareness less important than letting people know about the cool refreshing taste of bud light seltzer lemonade um but they're actually also paying money to advertise the fact that they're not advertising during the super bowl

yeah that's not how that works they made one of those pandemic themed soft piano music ads uh where and they specifically like called out uh starting monday the brand will air an ad that celebrates resilience during the pandemic including a socially distanced birthday parade and athletes and black lives matter jersey so in other words like literally every ad that has come out since the god i'm so tired um i'm so tired of this shit jack make it stop why why can't we that's been a big despair factor at the beginning of the pandemic all these ads were so people were there was a blissful quiet from advertisers at the beginning of this pandemic and it lasted three months yep three months and now and then after that they were like

you might as well get it at Olive Garden. It's just like, if you're going to get sick, get sick here. Get sick with... I'm so tired of the... And also, while we pretend to be part of the solution by highlighting the efforts of people who are actually doing selfless work and basically corporatize that and devalue that so that somehow the acts of the first responders and the frontline workers are cheapened by our goal of selling you Olive Garden. There's a soft serve ice cream shop in Monterey Park that me and my girlfriend love. It's called Big Softy.

And they are shut and i called i was like why you know that like they're not even doing takeout and i was like i'm just curious i wasn't like why are you shut i was just hoping that no one died right like i was just hoping that there wasn't like an outbreak because we go there you know once every two weeks it's tiny it's you know own it's owned and run by the same. It's really small. And they're like, you know, we just we can't justify the cost of staying open, not financially, but just like if anyone gets sick. And so they're like, we're shutting down our Instagram.

We're shutting down like they're they're just like they've stopped everything. They're like, we'll be back when things get better. And like every nation. Yeah, it really I really would appreciate if one company didn't do a Super Bowl ad. they've stopped everything. They're like, we'll be back when things get better. And like, yeah, it really, I really would appreciate if one company didn't do a Superbowl ad and didn't tell me that they weren't going to do Superbowl ad. It'd just be nice if they were just like, yeah,

we don't need a press release. I'm explaining why Budweiser is not doing it. I don't need it. Just, just stop. But not just a press release, an entire ad campaign. No, I think this is part of like sort of like that op ed right about collectivism and how do we shift the culture?

It's like right now we pat people like we love elevating like the singular hero or like this influencer or whatever. really change like what our who our heroes are to people who work together who aren't interested in glory for themselves who are selfless like that will slowly seep into like this corporate world where they're like see we we also our ceo also took uh like half the salary to make sure that workers would stay employed through a pandemic see we did that here's a press release and we actually did it like you almost have to you have to rig that game, too, for these people, because like they clearly over the summer and pandemic, like, see, we we heard about white supremacy. We'll do one ad about that and we'll we'll pretend to give a fuck. We'll only pretend. But at least we started to talk about that.

to pull the momentum somewhere in another direction where i could really see like this rat like your idea of a radical company alex as one that's like this corporate entity that's like we if we just get out there and we're like the bernie sanders of corporations like we're gonna be fucking killing it you know what i mean and that's what it's gonna be cynical but you can't fake that shit you can't fake it like right i hate to be a super white guy. But David Foster Wallace said, he's like, advertising can never be art because it's not a gift in any way. It always demands some shit from you. Right. And there's a psychic cost to watching an ad. There's a reason you have to sit through an ad before you get your free YouTube video.

Because it sucks. Because it takes a little bit away from your day. It's an assault. Ads are an assault on you. I know. I used to write them. They are awful. I still write them.

If anyone needs copywriting work, look at my website. But ads are truly awful. They are really, really tough. And in this time, doing them is really irresponsible. Making people sit through them like it's just it's the straw on the camel's back right now making people sit through them to watch the news is like

yeah I mean we still have advertiser supported news and that's anyways buy our great products that will come through and we'll talk about diarrhea shitting on your friend's nude ass sit through that my google search history after this is going to be very different one additional detail is that so they're you know buying up uh i think four minutes of ad time for their other products they are uh claiming that they're donating the money they would be spending on

budweiser ads to vaccine education they actually are investing 1 million dollars the ads cost 5.2 million dollars that's fucking nothing 1 million dollars yeah it's what it was like when the idea of man these super bowl ads are expensive got famous back in like the 80s. And they're just like, yeah, that's what people probably assume is how much a Super Bowl ad costs. So they're doing $1 million. That's the profit that an advertising company takes home from making the ads. Yeah, yep. Right, $1 million.

the ads yeah yep right one million dollars 1.3 1.2 million dollars is what you know a good advertising company would would take home for that's not that's that's that's zero dollars that's a line item that's a rounding error in a who's donating that comes out in the wash comes out in the wash anheuser-busch is it all comes What? Are you kidding me? Oh, God. I mean, it makes sense because this is definitely something that was pitched to them by an advertising agency. This whole campaign around their decision not to advertise.

You can almost picture a day-drunk Don Draper coming up with the idea and everyone being like, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. alex it's been a pleasure as always having you on the daily zeitgeist where can people find you and follow you uh i've got a twitter i've got an instagram i've got a patreon and uh i've got an album out called until now so if you guys feel like finding me in any of those things, please don't tell Framley Woods.

But if you're Jimmy Patronus, buddy, my phone number is 617. No. Give him a call. Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes. I saw a very funny tweet the other day that um uh what what's do people ever by the way mention a tweet and you're like we've had that one before uh it's only happened once or twice yeah um there's there was a tweet that uh that someone that someone said that I thought summed up a lot

of, this is from Jordan Green four days ago, when I describe East Coast versus West Coast culture to my friends, I often say the East Coast is kind but not nice, the West Coast is nice but not kind, and East Coasters immediately get it, West Coasters get mad.

Yeah. If that makes sense. East Coast coast kind but not nice west coast nice but not kind yep that'll do it well you just weren't hot enough for la sorry babe that's pretty much what la right there absolutely it. It's like said with a smile, but it's the most toxic shit. Yeah. Miles, where can people find you? Twitter, Instagram, Miles A Gray. Also, 420 Day Fiance, Talking 90 Day Fiance.

And you can find us on twitch.tv slash 420 Day Fiance for that stuff. Some tweets that I like. Okay, we got a couple here one is from at alia for prez girl of the year tweets i act like i'm okay but deep down inside i want to get paid for doing nothing and that's that's real that's uh that's that's real uh another one is from uh kp more at kp more tweeting, a homeless guy asked me for money today. I looked in my pocket and all I had was a $20 bill. Do I really want this money going towards drugs?

I thought to myself, nah. So I gave him the $20. That was mine. Good turn. That was a classic. I also liked one from Stabitha Christie. We need a Disney princess who eats tortellini in the middle of the night

that is true that is a fact that's someone's real life shit huh where they're like I should be a Disney princess for eating tortellini in the middle of the night that's a tweet we need a Disney princess with crumbs in their bed is that the type of shit there

oh god crumbs in the bed man and also sorry bellyack tweeted I don't want student loan forgiveness I want student loan revenge there you go that's hilarious you can find me on twitter

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and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on. Miles, what song are we riding out on today? This is from a Canadian beatmaker from Toronto, Toronto, named Harrison

who I've been getting into. This has a very cool, you know, jazz sample stuff. It's just kind of, you know, background stuff, stuff to read to whatever, right to code to design to whatever you do. Uh, and it's called around you. So check this out. A little funky, jazzy sample, sample based track from Harrison. All right. The daily zeitgeist is a production of I heart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows that is gonna do it for this morning we're back this afternoon to tell you what's trending and we will talk to you all then bye Thank you. Hey, fam, I'm Simone Boyce.

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