The Daily Zeitgeist - Affirmative Action OK for Kavanaugh, When Propaganda Backfires 06.30.23

Episode Date: June 30, 2023

In episode 1509, Miles and guest co-host Jacquis Neal are joined by comedian, Brandie Posey, to discuss… Supreme Court Ending Affirmative Action In Colleges - Legacy Admissions Like Brett Kavanagh A...re Still Cool Tho, Teamsters - UPS Strike is IMMINENT, So The Shein Influencer Trip Sure Backfired, Costco Is Cracking Down On People Sharing Memberships--Netflix-Style and more! Supreme Court Ending Affirmative Action In Colleges - Legacy Admissions Like Brett Kavanagh Are Still Cool Tho Supreme Court effectively ends affirmative action at colleges in landmark ruling The Future of College Admissions without Affirmative Action Legacy College Admissions Come Under Fire In New Report YALE LEGACY ADMISSION BRETT KAVANAUGH IS NOW THE SWING VOTE ON AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AT UNIVERSITIES So The Shein Influencer Trip Sure Backfired Shein Is the World’s Most Popular Fashion Brand—at a Huge Cost to Us All Apple knew a supplier was using child labor but took 3 years to fully cut ties, despite the company's promises to hold itself to the 'highest standards,' report says Experts warn of high levels of chemicals in clothes by some fast-fashion retailers Shein, Fast Fashion Hit With Gen Z, Tries Charm to Counter Scrutiny Shein Takes Influencers on Factory ‘Tour’ Influencers gave glowing reviews of Shein's fast fashion factories. Backlash ensued Shein Flew Influencers to China to Help Its Image. A Backlash Ensued. Costco Is Cracking Down On People Sharing Memberships--Netflix-Style I’m a Costco employee – customers are always trying a trick at self-checkout but we know every time ‘Costco did the same thing to me’: Customer using mom’s card says Costco declined it for ‘fraudulent activity’ LISTEN: Who He Iz by KAYTRAMINÉSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:25 get your podcast presented by capital one founding partner of iheart women's sports well hello the motherfucking internet and welcome to season 293 episode four of the daily zeitgeist this is still a production of iheart radio this is still a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness it's fucking friday yes june 30th the end of the month uh and june 30th what's that it's national meteor watch day international cream tea day i don't fuck that is international day of parliamentarism okay international asteroid day and international outfit of the day Day. Okay. Everybody, post your OOTD pics now. Don't be late.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Don't be late. Dicks out. Yeah. My name is not Jack O'Brien. In fact, it is Miles Gray, a.k.a. Despite all my rage, I am still just the niece of Tom Hanks. Despite all my rage, I'm just the niece of Tom Hanks, despite all my rage, I'm just a niece of Tom Hanks. And someone will say, babe, you lost, the producers won't cave.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Despite all my rage, I am still just a niece of Tom Hanks. You know, that part where he really goes into it. Anyway, shout out that alt-right god, Billy Corgan. But La Caroni with Bullet with the Butterfly Wings, a.k.a., yeah, obviously referencing Tom Hanks' spectacular exit from Claim to Fame that we were talking about. I didn't even know that was a show in its second season. But wow, he just gave me a reason to watch. And let's move on because I am thrilled to be joined by one of the best co-hosts I've co-hosted with.
Starting point is 00:03:01 We already know him as Chicago's very own. We know him as Bidet Z because he holds it down for bidets, obviously. I forgot to mention that because I know when we both got bidets, we were very happy. We're changed men, actually. You might know him as a wonderful voiceover actor,
Starting point is 00:03:17 actor, producer, podcaster, anything, maybe consummate game show host of Comedian Feud. Anyway, I could go on and on but please welcome to the microphone jackie's new oh here he comes watch out game he'll chew you up oh here he comes it's jackie's new hill ah what upes? How we doing today? Good. On this day. Ooh, today, the last day SAG is going to be working, baby. Oh, yeah. Are y'all going on a strike? I think we are at midnight.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Ooh, also a day after they struck down affirmative action. My black ass ain't going. My black ass staying in the crib. I ain't got nothing nothing left for my ass boy nothing left in these streets for me but i'm here today for y'all yeah so enjoy me while you can white folks yeah because i'm going on strike after this i'm going on strike you got to everybody's about to i mean ups i think we'll probably talk about that in a second yeah you got any plans for the weekend oh you, you know, it's a freaking weekend, baby. I don't know if I can still say that.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Yeah. Not everyone got that reference. Baseball. Not everybody, yeah. Not everybody got that reference. But those who did, you got it. But those who did. We'll actually take the keys out of the ignition for that one.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Yeah, yeah, yeah. We won't bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce. You know, just baseball. You know, I'm managing a baseball team here in Los Angeles. Oh. So, you know, we got our baseball game this Saturday. Are you a player manager or just purely a manager? I'm a player manager.
Starting point is 00:04:51 I'm a player manager of the Satchels, named after Satchel Paige from the Negro Leagues, baby. Beautiful thing. It's a beautiful thing. So that's about it. That's all I care about. Did Delroy Lindo play Satchel Paige in a movie? I don't know, but that would be a wild acting choice. He did.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Yeah, exactly. And McKelvey Williamson played Josh Gibson. I remember this. Interesting. He seems so much bigger than what Satchel Paige was. Do you remember that wave, though, in the 90s when like the negro leagues came back and everyone's like remember the negro leagues i remember because my last name's gray my we were kitted out in gray's stuff all the time oh yeah yeah oh yeah all day the monarch the monarch
Starting point is 00:05:36 church used to be on point but yeah and you can get them they still have them available anyway let's get to our wonderful guest one of my favorite people one of my favorite comedians mike i have i have stickers of this person on my computer case because we're just kindred spirits wonderful podcaster producer i don't know what else to say uh except just an overall fantastic person with wonderful energy that i love having on the show please welcome back brandy posey hey babies it's good to celebrate the end of june with y'all yeah Please welcome back Brandi Posey! Hey! Hey, babies. It's good to celebrate the end of June with y'all. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Into Pride Month. Into Pride Month as well. I hope it's been a good Pride Month for everybody. I hope so, too. It's weird. I saw a lot of events happening, like last-minute Pride events happening. I felt like a lot of places were doing it on the back end, not kicking the month off,
Starting point is 00:06:26 but like, Oh shit. Okay. Let's get it on that last Thursday. Yeah. Yeah. Intentional or just kind of where this ranks on the social calendar. I don't really know.
Starting point is 00:06:35 I was just up in Portland doing some shows a couple of weeks ago too. And Portland is doing their pride the first week in July. They're just like, they were like, yeah, they were like, we're like we're just gonna go into next month i'm just like okay cool i mean celebrate it every day it's great what's time uh brandy how you been also i'm surprised you and jackies have never met because the two of you are
Starting point is 00:06:57 on the show so much that i was like i'm surprised like hey nice to meet you i was like oh shit that's all yeah i think it's we're probably like just booked. We're just booked opposites. But it's a delight to be here. Here we go. It's today. Today's the day. Y'all were talking about bidets for Christmas this year. I didn't go home to see my family because I was sick.
Starting point is 00:07:14 But I bought everyone in my family a bidet. And then I got to watch six boomers open bidets over FaceTime. Yeah. And it was awesome. Yeah. Most of was awesome. Yeah. Most of them had never thought about their buttholes before, so it was really
Starting point is 00:07:29 just great to watch them have to deal with that on Christmas without me in the room. Part of me would have been like, can you record a selfie video when that water hits your butthole for the first time? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:38 I want to see that. I would pay I would pay millions of dollars to see a bidet hit my granddad's asshole for the first time. His old black ass boy, he would be like, Ooh, that ain't for me, jockeys.
Starting point is 00:07:58 That ain't for me. Until you warm it up. And then you warm it up. Wait, hold on a second. Oh, exactly. I know it's warm. until you warm it up and then you warm it up yeah wait hold on a second oh exactly warm yeah that needs to be that needs to be a new subsection of of youtube remember reaction videos they need to or tiktok we need to get like bidet reaction videos from elderly everybody but just like elderly people use it for the first time there's it would blow up the internet there's
Starting point is 00:08:25 no way you could play around your butthole and not make a face you know i mean like even if you even if you wipe your ass with toilet paper everybody got a little some kind of face they do when they're like that's a psychopath test check your face yeah if you wipe your ass and with a blank face i'm calling the fbi and I don't call them normally. Yeah, exactly. And that's why the water. Oh, man. Anyway. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:48 It's fucked up how I kind of get panicked when I'm like at like traveling and, you know, hotel rooms, I have bidets and stuff unless you're in Europe. But like you go there and you're like, fuck, what am I going to do? And then, you know, just going to have a dirty booty. I bring baby wipes. I bring baby wipes on when I travel, you know, to give me at least some layer of protection. Let me just tell you out there. And I want to say this as the bidet ambassador, self-proclaimed bidet ambassador.
Starting point is 00:09:17 If you ain't at least using baby wipes, if you're not getting in the shower after every shit, I don't care what you say. And I've talked to a lot of people who be like, no man my ass clean your ass is not clean your ass ain't clean i don't give a fuck what you say i don't care how much convincing you need to tell yourself your booty is dirty if you go and roll around in some dirt and some mud and then just wipe yourself off with paper towels you are dirty you are dirty okay so the same applies for your shitty booty hole it's dirty okay i'm glad we got this letting you know that a lot of people are denial about it just keep it clean um but anyway let's give people a quick preview of what we're going to talk about first up we're going to talk about like you were talking about
Starting point is 00:10:03 jakee's supreme court ending affirmative action but luckily legacy admissions all good they can stay uh and we'll talk about the just fucking absurdity of that decision uh then we'll just touch on the teamsters they have said ups strike is imminent and let me just tell you this is this is 340,000 people that are about to go on strike. That is not an insignificant number. So get ready for it. The last time I remember the UPS and the Teamsters were talking about going on strike, we saw all these articles about what that means for you and how it's bad that this is going to happen. Now things might get to you slower or shipping might be more expensive.
Starting point is 00:10:43 No, these are people who are dying in their delivery vehicles. Yeah vehicles yeah oh you might have to go out and buy it in person what a shame i'm not gonna do all that i do have limits um but yeah we'll talk about that uh and where that negotiation is at or where it's not at at all we'll talk about that sheen influencer propaganda bullshit that was flying around the internet this week. Guess what, folks? It seems like it backfired, maybe. And then we'll talk about Costco. They're cracking down on people sharing memberships like this is Netflix or some shit.
Starting point is 00:11:17 But it also sounds like the people who work at Costco don't give a fuck. So we'll see where we're at with all that. But before we get to that, we got to get to this. Brandy Posey. I said Brandy. Brandy Posey. I said Brandney. Brandy Posey. What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are, what you're into right now? Yesterday, I was Googling Steven Tyler yesterday because I found out that Aerosmith just announced our last tour.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I don't really care about Aerosmith very much, but I realized that I think that like, I know that they're not actually related but i believe that steven tyler and uh oh god what chili peppers what's his home what's his name uh no anthony ketis i think they're related from a former life they have a similar level of grime on them and i was just going down a hole on like is there a relation is there are they related to each other and steven tyler related i mean like maybe not dad no yeah no they're not but what i did find is there's an amazing video of steven tyler and oprah wandering around the woods and steven tyler is just showing oprah the woods behind his house and he's like this is where i go to get calm and where i find god and then it's oprah just like yeah it's her touching moss and like it looks like they're all mushrooms together yeah like tripping out on i would love that oh i'll put it in the chat it's a real a real delight of a video
Starting point is 00:12:36 i love that do you have a favorite i also love oh sorry do you know no that's a better question do you have a favorite Aerosmith song? Dream On, I think. Yeah, that was the one. It's wild. So, like, as a kid, right, I only knew Latter Day Aerosmith. And so when I started hearing, like, Emotion, all that, you know, I was like, that ain't Aerosmith. I'm like, like, what they do is like, we're living on the edge.
Starting point is 00:13:05 That's what I thought Aerosmith was. And I didn't know, especially when you hear Dream On, we're living on the edge. That's what I thought Aerosmith was. And I didn't know, especially when you heard Dream On. I was like, Dream On. I know. When he gets up high like that, I didn't think that was the same guy. Dream On. There you go. No, it's funny for me. It's funny for me because, like, yeah, same.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Like, you know, I knew maybe the song from Fifth Element, that I don't want to miss a thing. That's Armageddon. Or Armageddon. Same thing. I was like, for a second, I Don't Want to Miss a Thing. That's Armageddon. Or Armageddon, same thing. I was like, for a second, I was like, wait, what? They're on the Fifth Element? Chris Tucker singing I Don't Want to Miss a Thing. I don't want to miss a thing. Kobe, Kobe, uh then eminem on the eminem show in 2001
Starting point is 00:13:46 sampled dream on on sing for the moment you're right and and so like and i didn't know of dream on before that so then when i heard like the aerosmith song when i got as i got older yeah i was like oh this shit is pretty tight yeah they got it's weird how much his voice changed though is that just from the cocaine i imagine so i think that drip that drip uh affects the vocal cocaine drip yeah i mean definitely get it'll fuck up your sinuses you know what i mean like so definitely gonna change your whole nasal shit on some because his voice sounds demonstrably different like it doesn't seem like it's old i'm like that's why i think sonically as a kid i was like this this isn't the same band like then this isn't even
Starting point is 00:14:23 time yeah he sounds like does he still sing the same, though? He probably still sings. Because Ozzy Osbourne also can't speak anymore. No, yeah, yeah. He can't speak. Creepy. Yeah. Like, he can do dishes.
Starting point is 00:14:36 But then when he started singing, it's still, I mean, it's not like what it used to be, but it's like he learned words again. Yeah, yeah. He, like, confined it a little bit yeah also if you haven't looked at a current picture of steven tyler in a while he's just aerosmith looks wild as old men oh yeah yeah it's just there's like a there's like a lot of uh captain jack sparrowness that's like really at its at its uh height right yeah it was pretty funny yeah i remember like meeting like i like i met one of
Starting point is 00:15:06 joe perry's sons who's like younger than me and i was like oh okay so you got that old dad yeah but like he had like he but he had this like energy of sort of like he was really i was like yo joe that's a joe perry's son but he had very much like i'm just an intern vibes and i was like yeah yeah do your thing uh brandy what's something you think is overrated? Honestly, maybe controversial in Los Angeles. I'm, I'm okay with the sun.
Starting point is 00:15:31 The sun is a little bit overrated. It came back out this week and I kind of liked the gloom. I kind of was enjoying it. I'll take it back. Something else. Yeah. You know, it's not so much.
Starting point is 00:15:42 I, I agree with you, Brandy is, well, I, I agree with you to a degree but because i also think the sun i hate the sun i have a record if i could agree i hate the sun well i hate the sun if i could shoot bullets at the sun i would uh especially out here yeah
Starting point is 00:15:59 you know i post that constantly yeah i post that meme constantly. Yeah. I post that meme constantly through the year, bro. Like, all right, man. We've had enough. We've had enough. But, and especially out here, the sun, I don't know where you're from, Brandy, but I'm from Chicago. Baltimore, yeah. The sun is aggressive.
Starting point is 00:16:15 So, you know, the sun is aggressive as fuck out here. Yes. Yeah. And so, it's not even, I don't, so I also think the sun can just, like, leave. But, like, I don't need the gloom. I just give me some clouds. Give me a few clouds. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Like it could still be a bright day. Just give me some clouds. A little cloud. A little white cloud. Yeah. But out here, the sun just be fucking us raw, man. Like no, no condom, no protection, no birth control. Just straight up fucking raw.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Raw UV rays, nah. Just raw UV rays. Nah, not with that. Give me at least some, do something. Give me something in between. Yeah. Even if we drive over there in underwear. It's too much.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Too much. It's too much. It's too much, yeah. Yeah, it's wild. Like, how much, it's so funny how we vacillate like back and forth in this city too we're like man it's too fucking cold man fuck this and then the sun i don't fucking hate the sun yeah like we're like truly in some on some goldilocks shit we're like we don't know where what what the fucking just right bro yeah no i just want to be in a light hoodie and sunglasses
Starting point is 00:17:22 but like not sweating is what I'm always looking for. I have such terrible summer wardrobe. Like, I don't know. I do not look good when I go out in the summer because I have cargo shorts, basketball shorts, soccer shorts. I don't have like good linen, nothing like that. Like where, you know, see people who like have their shit together and like basketball jerseys. Like I look like I'm in eighth grade again but come fall winter oh baby that's when i that's when i shine with my sleeves and jackets baby i love a layer i love to layer yeah i love a layered
Starting point is 00:17:56 look so good anyway what's the main thing is underrated brandy um if you're having like a i've had like a rough couple of weeks with some stuff and i decided you know what fuck it i'm gonna get my car detailed because i just wanted my i just was like if my car is nice i'm gonna it's like a reset yeah and i think like that's something that like i i have not done a lot in my life and i was like oh shit this actually does make me feel really like really good to have like a car that just like it's clean it's got no trash there's no dust there's no dirt it just feels new it just feels nice yeah i'm not i'm not the best at taking care of my vehicle yeah on the outside like you know i have a like my passenger seat is i go in the carpool lane because i have so many
Starting point is 00:18:38 receipts in my passenger seat it looks like a human being is riding with me that's kind of the state of my car at times but now like with a child i've become much better at it but the way i love going to like the fucking car wash now yeah like i feel the same way i'm like i sit there like i bring a fucking newspaper like i'm fucking 70 and shit and be like check that out leave it for the next person boom yeah what are you saying jackie i also listen i love i love it i love a car wash i love like going to the car wash and having them clean it and see it and having to wipe it and walk around and inspect it it's like hey brother spot like i love that shit i love it but but i also still love i just did this recently because i didn't have enough time to like get a real car wash so i just went through like one of the
Starting point is 00:19:21 drive-thru joints yeah it's still lovely it's still a lovely time what's how often how often do you how often do you see somebody in the self like the do it or like the drive-thru ones and they're about to crash into everybody else like like because i know some of them like you have to put in neutral other times people like oh yeah don't know what to do their shit is moving inside and like you see them shut it down and someone's got to pull somebody i'd be like you're about to fucking rear end this other car yeah i don't know i feel like i see that every time i go through one of those i the ones the only one i've been going to recently is the like little gas station ones that show so like you just stay in place and the thing moves around you oh okay i haven't found too many ones that like you move through a whole thing oh yeah
Starting point is 00:20:02 they have a few of those like in the Valley that I used to go to, there's one. Oh yeah. Like it would, it would, sometimes I've saw people with some near misses and people were getting pretty turnt up. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:20:13 the thing about like, you know, having a rough time too. I was just saying this on like Monday show that having like, you know, stressful shit going on, whatever. But like the thing that I always have to remind myself is when I'm
Starting point is 00:20:23 feeling shitty is to not get in the pattern of telling myself,'t feel shitty like you're like why you feel shitty this is stupid you shouldn't feel bad you should feel good why are you doing this and like i have to kind of be like not okay hold on i'm a human so that's normal and then like let me just operate from that space of being like it's all good now let's try and move totally bit by bit. Cause yeah, I'm such a like ruminator. Oh shit. The way I can get lost in my own fucking mind. Let me tell you, I look like,
Starting point is 00:20:51 like I'm warging from fucking game of Thrones or some shit. The way my eyes look back. Yeah. It's just good to do something good for yourself every once in a while. And like that, that's one that like I had never really thought about that. I was like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:21:02 I'm in my car so much. It should, it could be nice. This is a space that could also just be nice. Yeah. Yeah. Wouldn't thought about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:11 100%. Recommend. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and we'll talk about some, the Supreme court, you know, they,
Starting point is 00:21:18 they go back and forth. Sometimes they're fucking doing the right thing. Sometimes they're just caping for white supremacy all over again. Anyway, we'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories
Starting point is 00:21:49 behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds. Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised $150,000 in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture.
Starting point is 00:22:53 I just don't believe they exist. I mean, my reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:23:32 This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Excuse me. I'm a little bit. That's how the white people say it. Yeah. We don't care about race and a racial minority, although that's how you'd say it. Race conscious admissions programs, a.k.a. affirmative action programs like but specifically at Harvard and the University of North Carolina are unconstitutional. Basically, that is the end of affirmative action in college admissions.
Starting point is 00:25:06 admissions uh this is a 6-3 opinion with the you know majority opinion written by chief justice jean roberts uh and you know the three libs left to be like are y'all fucking serious so that's sotomayor kagan and katanji brown jackson all dissented in her dissent justice sotomayor was you know just saying that you know the court's decision has quote a superficial rule of color blindness as a constitutional principle in an endemically segregated society where race has always mattered and continues to matter. And Justice Jackson just went as far as said, the majority's opinion is a very, as she said, quote, let them eat cake levels of obliviousness. And yeah, it's hard to disagree with that. No, I mean, they're like, no, we're colorblind disagree with that. No, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:45 They're like, no, we're colorblind. That's all we're doing. We're colorblind to the point that we're going to go, we're going to zoom out past the systemic and structural parts that leave people disadvantaged. And just taking it like that, we're all just humans. Can't see any negative effects of this. In 10 years from now,
Starting point is 00:26:02 when the numbers of diverse students specifically black dwindle I would love to say that people will be like damn you know what that shit was there for a reason but they won't they'll find a reason to say
Starting point is 00:26:20 why they were like well we'll go back to the classic racist take that well you know if you want to get into college be exceptional or we you know be better work hard like everybody else yeah absolutely uh but you know that's that's not gonna happen is is i said this today i said this today and look you know i don't love to harp things, but it's just a good reminder as we are a couple of years away from this again. Elections matter. And we are still feeling the effects of the 2016 election.
Starting point is 00:26:55 And we will continue to feel the effects of that election for many decades now. The effects of 1619 over here still. That's how long this shit has been going. It's crazy. I said this the other day when I started talking shit about Joe Biden and the lack of options that the Democrats present people.
Starting point is 00:27:18 You're going to make Trump win. Well, guess what? Joe Biden's in office and look at how much fuckery this continues. Yeah, there's no fight. Yeah. So I'm I'm hard pressed to say I like this president when I'm looking around and this motherfucker is not fighting or putting up a fight. And the other candidates that are are ostracized or meant to run a third party or whatever, because that's just the way the system is. And yeah, I'm that's why I'm like just looking. I like yeah okay what's what's cornell west got to say because yeah i like i need to hear something that resonates with me and not just some sort of like glacial pace of progress because the glacial pace leaves so many people behind
Starting point is 00:27:55 when we got to do things very quickly and there's no fighting any of this right now which is so frustrating because it's like that's the frustrating part i don't understand how everyone is just like rah rah let's like indict trump do all this shit but then you're saying that like his decisions that he made in office matter like why the fuck haven't you kicked out or tried tried to kick out his supreme court justices you know what i mean like there's there's so many things that you could be trying to do to fight this and if they fail they fail but like just put up a fight make people feel like they give a fuck because you know what there's nothing that motivates somebody i mean most of the time if you see somebody attempt it and then they fail and then you go oh okay you
Starting point is 00:28:35 have to redouble your efforts yeah now i have to get behind whatever the next iteration of this fight is rather than like not fighting at all i mean nancy pelosi i think just came out like two days ago i was like i support term limits for the supreme courts but like come the fuck on you have you have these people with some of the most egregious behavior and we're still trying to act like whatever anyway all that to say to your point earlier jockeys many researchers have said all the evidence points to the fact that diversity in higher education improves learning outcomes for all students and the benefits extend beyond graduation. It's not just some shit that you you're like diversity for four years. It like it stays with you.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Those are formative experiences. And the other thing you're saying is, which is true, is that whenever affirmative action has been eliminated, studies have consistently found that there are declines in the admission and enrollment of black, Latinx and indigenous people. That's just what it is. Prop 209 in 1996 in California resulted in a 12 percent decline across the whole UC system. UC Berkeley and UCLA experienced the biggest fucking effects. A 60 percent drop in black, Latinx and indigenous folks. That's that's what this shit means. In 2006, Michigan also had something called Prop 2,
Starting point is 00:29:49 and we saw, again, a decline. It also happened in the University of Washington. The first class admitted to the University of Washington after the state banned the use of race in admissions. Black, Latinx, and Native American enrollment made up 7% as opposed to almost 8.5% the year before. So it shows it comes out in everything. But the other thing that has happened, though, is that the Supreme Court,
Starting point is 00:30:12 they want everybody to be treated the same. Oh, except for the legacy applicants. Yeah, except for them. Yeah, the court was seemingly had no problem with legacy admissions, which again, we're talking about discriminating people, but what about, I mean, this is the thing. If you go all the way back to where,
Starting point is 00:30:29 like where this shit came from, this is from the 1920s or these, this, you know, practice of legacy admissions began, you know why they started doing this backdoor strategy for it to limit the number of Jewish minority and immigrant students that were entering school by giving preference
Starting point is 00:30:45 to the alumni's children who were seldom jewish black or people of color or immigrants you know what i mean so it's very cynical but again this is i've only known the supreme court to be a very cynical body at this point well someone think of the privileged children yeah once someone of the privileged children. Yeah. Once someone of the Brett Kavanaugh's who again, Brett Kavanaugh himself, a legacy admission to Yale, you know, because his grandfather went there and then, but then when he was confronted with it,
Starting point is 00:31:14 he lost it. And he's like, I got there because I was busting my tail. And by tail, I mean being the sperm of my grandfather. And I entered the egg and I became this person just by happenstance so it's uh yeah it's very very grim time i would say i i also i also want white white folks or non-people of color who thinks like man this sucks this really does suck but it doesn't really affect me i guess whether it's because
Starting point is 00:31:46 you're not of race or you're not of college age anymore or anything like this this is likely just the beginning like they are coming for everything y'all they are coming for every they are coming for women productive rights they are coming for lgbtq they are coming for every they are coming for women productive rights. They are coming for LGBTQ. They are coming for black folks. They are. They are coming for everything. And if you think this that this shit has been a rule for 60 years, 50, 60 years. If you think this is just like isolated or the or abortion rights was just isolated.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Now they coming for you too. They coming for whatever, whatever press group you belong to, whatever group you belong to that you are protected under the eyes of the government because there are ignorant people out here. They coming for your ass too. And so this is just the beginning and it really fucking sucks.
Starting point is 00:32:42 And like you guys said, I would love if we just had leadership in place who was like you know what nah we gonna codify this we gonna add more supreme court justices we gonna make this because like because i'm so tired of the feeling like elections matter for one side and then they don't matter for another yeah right because that's how it can feel sometimes. And it's just like, we're letting all this carnage happen from one election
Starting point is 00:33:08 and we're doing not, not we, but the people that we elected seemingly are doing nothing to the full extent that they could do something to. And it's just frustrating. And I think it just reveals
Starting point is 00:33:21 kind of where the energy is for each party, like what they're able to do. And I think, again, it's just a lot of posturing and gesturing at the right moves from Democrats and then very seldom, you know, like I always point to that despicable like Kinte cloth in the rotunda taking 2020 just for what? For what? The most like incremental changes to like creating new standards for police accountability. When you can do things like go after qualified immunity, that's like a real thing you could go after. But again, when I don't see that energy, I'm like, OK, so you don't have energy for like helping people.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Clearly, you just have energy to sort of at this point, just take the blessing that is a Republican Party and just say, well, we're not them. OK, so do you want that? Yeah. Then vote for us. Very, very sad. But yeah. And again, it just sucks for the younger people out there who, you know, are like there's all these obstacles to try and get an education. And I get on some levels, some it does.
Starting point is 00:34:19 It might not make that sense for some people, but for those that do, it's either completely out of reach because of the finances or because the fact that maybe you were born in the wrong part of the country with the wrong kind of parents. And that already puts a bunch of obstacles in your way that, you know, again, just pull yourself up, bust your tail. You know what I mean? Yeah. Anyway, speaking of busting their tails, UPS drivers, the Teamsters, they have announced, the Teamsters unit has announced that they have walked away from the negotiating table with UPS drivers, the Teamsters, they have announced, the Teamsters unit has announced that they have walked away from the negotiating table with UPS. Because they said, look, here's your only chance now. We will take, they said, give us your best and final offer by Friday, June 30th.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Or, you know what, we really see no reason to continue negotiating with you because we're constantly banging our heads against the wall. The Teamsters, obviously, like any union, right, that is going on strike or talking about going on strike, it's all about more like fair wages, better working conditions. And this is for over 340,000 full time and part time workers there. full-time and part-time workers there. The executives have apparently been real shit bags when it comes to like working on like the economic points of this new contract to the point that they aren't even interested in talking about it. This is why the teams are walking away.
Starting point is 00:35:34 They're like, well, what about wages? They're saying, oh, we're not even gonna look at that. Like we can't raise wages or, you know, give you additional benefits in any tangible way because their whole stance right now as UPS is, they need everything to be cost neutral, meaning it does not affect what we currently spend or give to the workers. And this is all in the background of UPS pulling in over a hundred billion dollars in revenue and their executives are making tens of millions of dollars. But again, they're like,
Starting point is 00:36:04 wow, yeah, nothing for y'all though. Nothing for'all it's just wow they're like the only thing we the only thing we heard recently was that they agreed to like air conditioning because that i guess to them felt like a cost they're like yeah i guess i guess we could do that because yeah okay fine i guess these people in these trucks that get up to 120 degrees for 14 hours a day i guess they can have a little air conditioning as a treat i guess that's fine i mean what no bathroom breaks don't don't hydrate anything like that but like you know we got some ac in your face it's fine why are you asking for more i mean oh oh you're looking at you're looking at our earnings call where we said we made all this money in profit but you know you
Starting point is 00:36:39 thought we were gonna share that with you come on now i guess i'm i'm pretty ignorant to i i didn't realize that the ceos of like ups and all these delivery companies made this much money because i'm like because like people because nowadays we have shit like prime like prime day is coming up so i don't know when this strike is happening but if it's happening during that it's going to be crazy but like we have shit like prime or like shipping costs between 2.99 and six seven dollars or something so like i never equate it as much as i guess i should have been but and then also i'm like and if anybody's making the money if there's i mean any entity where the worker is working and the ceo is not doing shit the workers should be making more money but if any worker should be making more money there's a fucking delivery driver who
Starting point is 00:37:30 is driving and carrying heavy shit and like there are some really great i mean like i grew up on the south side of chicago we knew our mailman like we would invite a man for like like a cold drink and he knew us by name and shit like that became a part of your like ecosystem and you know small part of your family because you saw that motherfucker every day right and like my ups guy like i gave him a christmas present he came to me like he dropped off his last like thing was like hey i'm retiring and it was like oh, dude, you were so great. I moved and like he noticed my address on a on another address. And but the one that I was living at, he was like, oh, he moved and he brought it to my at my real address. Like these workers don't just deliver shit.
Starting point is 00:38:17 They like they are actually they take their shit so seriously and they have so much pride in it. And they not making money for real well this is why like you know this sort of absurdity of how like all of our like our wages work the idea of it too where you have all these people who just are executives who are doing abstract work and then
Starting point is 00:38:37 all the real fucking labor falls on the workers that are like yeah I'm like I want to see you motherfuckers I want to see you lift up a fucking 40 pound bag. Yeah. Do one day, one day and show me you can do. Also at this point with a UPS,
Starting point is 00:38:52 what is an executive of UPS doing? Like are we rebranding? We're changing the Browns slightly. Like, what new decisions are there? We got to change into new markets on earth. Y'all already ship all over the fucking place yeah because like i've worked in i've worked in management before so like i you know like i i like fuck the man and
Starting point is 00:39:12 shit but like there are some like upper level management who like make decisions that truly like have an effect on how day-to-day works and shit like that but the day-to-day of a delivery driver is drive your route and drop your shit off there is nothing that an executive is gonna do outside of just make this an easier life for your worker yeah that's it yeah i mean and marketing and you know shit like that scheduling like give me a fucking break that's c-suite i mean yeah just just a way to capture all of that, you know, extracted wealth. You know what I mean? Just be like right there to catch it with your job title. And yeah, that's why. So, yeah, I mean, again, like I said at the top of the show, I'm just waiting for the fucking like Wall Street op ed to come out where it's like this is why the economy is going to crash because these workers are advocating for themselves through collective
Starting point is 00:40:05 action and that's why the point you were making jackies earlier is there is a potential case i get to the supreme court that would allow employers to fucking sue the workers for losses when they go on strike to hold them accountable for the financial losses that occur for going on fucking strike man it's just like how it's so crazy like they this is all such a like testament to people's like ability to not want to commit violence because the the corner they keep pushing people into and i'm just like man what do you thinking that brandy what do you expect what do you fucking expect how far do you think you can push yeah what is the fucking limit because working people like an abs like an abstract concept to people like that that's why i yesterday on the
Starting point is 00:40:57 trending episode we're talking about how like the head of cartier this like south african jeweler guy was like he's like it keeps me up at night that like technology will cause like even more structural inequality and the poor people will come for us and it's like yeah yeah yeah there's shit that you can do to make make that not happen now maybe give it can't be it can't be don't make less it can't be make less money that can't be don't make less. It can't be make less money. That can't be the answer because I'm worth $7.5 billion. I have to be making more and I'm 80. It's like, get the fuck out of here. Loser, right?
Starting point is 00:41:33 What a profound loser to have that much money and not just be on vacation all the time. I mean, yeah, it's a hell of a drug. You know, I think wealth is a hell of a drug because it'll take you out of reality when you're high enough on that shit and we see it all the time there's another thing about how like chloe kardashian was talking about how she went to go get in and out and her mom gave her 300 because she didn't know how much it cost and like this exactly how much is a ham like you got some ham okay here's 300 i mean i don't know i read a douglas rushkov has like a book that came out earlier this year called like a escape fantasies the Tech Billionaires, where he's like a Gen X hacker humanitarian guy that gets asked to talk to people in tech about the like the middle of the desert with a bunch of billionaires and their only questions for him were like okay so we're working on our bunkers how do we keep our security from killing us when money is not real anymore
Starting point is 00:42:36 like that was like that was like what their that's where their concern was at their brains were already like okay so the bunker so the Titanic is going down yeah yeah it's all gonna happen so but my Israeli Mossad how do I keep them from killing me right and not stealing my food and literally like their ideas were like what about dog collars like what about like dog collars on people and Douglas was in the meetings he was like what if we like paid for their kids colleges and you're like you know we didn, we don't need to be there yet. Why don't you buy them off? How about that? You know that tactic that y'all do?
Starting point is 00:43:08 Buying people off, paying people off. That's all you got to do. Just do it to everybody. Yeah. Buy everybody off. Come up off a few billion. Yeah, it is wild to think of like the idea of like, because they probably saw that moment in Titanic when Billy Zane was trying to get on the fucking ship. And he's like, here, take this money, my good man.
Starting point is 00:43:23 They're just like, yo, man, your money ain't going to save you now. And that's probably the most horrific concept to the wealthy. It's the idea that there potentially will come a time where your money cannot save you. Yeah. Huh. Well. But you know what can save me when it all happens? I'm going to buy my two Desert Eagles and be out on the street with the people, baby.
Starting point is 00:43:46 I'm going to be out on the street. We're going to do two Desert Eagles, man. Can we still out of control shoot a.50 caliber fucking handgun like that? It's like, shit. One at a time, we'll put two hands on this shit. Anyway. Give all the drones.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Give all the drones to all the orcas and it'll sort itself out. Wow. Wow, wow, wow. All right. Let's take a break. And we will be right back after this. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
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Starting point is 00:47:03 and violent summer. This is Rip Current, available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And quickly, I just want to touch on Costco because it is a store we talk about a lot here and one that I've only had a membership to once because, you know, I've always used other people's memberships. Thank you, Mom. But they announced they're going to be cracking down on membership sharing.
Starting point is 00:47:40 And I guess, you know, it makes sense. A lot of people who aren't members have been using other people's cards at self-checkout the new hack because you know are they got self-checkout at Costco yeah they do you know the way you got a Costco membership and I don't use that motherfucker oh shit let me use it I do too I'll come by use it and I'll put my like you do the thing where you put your just thumb over the fucking face when you walk in they're like yeah okay go ahead go ahead but yeah apparently now what is going to happen this is like people are going to have to show their ids at the self checkout to employees so like at that point like are we really self-checking out last yeah you know why employees not gonna give a fuck and this is the thing so on tiktok a lot of costco
Starting point is 00:48:22 employees are like there's a lot of posts are going viral because a lot of people are just revealing. They're like, yo, we know motherfuckers are sharing. Obviously, we know y'all are sharing them. Like, we're not stupid. We don't give a fuck. That's the only difference. That's it. We don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Come in here. I'm not Mr. Costco. I'm just working at the fucking, I'm just highlighting receipts on the way out. And yeah, so they do the whole thing. It's like's like it's very obvious but we just don't care but a lot of people have been also telling stories where they've used a family member's card but then got dinged for like quote fraudulent activity and even like escorted out of the store and this was even before the new crackdown like announced was announced so I mean I don't know like they claim on the website you can add affiliate members
Starting point is 00:49:08 but I've definitely felt I remember when I was 19 I fucking ran out of Costco like when they clocked that I was using my mom's card like I panicked like not because I was not because they were even like oh you don't fucked up they were just like hold on is this you and in my mind it was like
Starting point is 00:49:24 the cops is here and I fucking smashed that shit and sprinted out of the one in burbank and fucking just like like took off i don't know why i thought i was gonna go to jail or something i don't know i mean maybe obviously a healthy fear of authority uh being a person of color in this country but yeah yeah they should also like if if your last name matches, it shouldn't fucking matter. Like, what if you are in there with your mom? Like, your mom is, like, sick and you need, like, to get some shit. Like, if the last name, I mean, it shouldn't, like, they don't give a shit at all anyway. But, like, if the last name matches or the address matches, like, on your ID or something, something matches where you can be like, I'm in the household.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Who gives a fuck? They getting the money. If the last name matches, allow us to buy toilet paper in batches. Okay. Hey, there it is. That's the new rhyme. There you go. That I want to spread across the land.
Starting point is 00:50:14 But yeah, good luck. Good luck, Costco. Who create the episode names? If you don't use that as the episode name, you're not doing your job. All right. You're not doing your job. I love the idea of like this kind of like worker led like fuckery though, too,
Starting point is 00:50:28 where they're like, yeah, you got to check the IDs. They're like, yeah, for sure. For sure. They're like,
Starting point is 00:50:32 man, you don't even fucking need a card, bro. Just come in here. Show me like a, a rectangular white piece of plastic. And I'm just calling that a card. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:50:39 for real. Look, if you're a worker at a place that is like taking the side of the boss over the consumer that is just trying to do their best and like get by in a world where like raspberries are $9 or whatever, rethink who you are loyal to and who actually has your back in the world. That's why it's a little lost on me because ever since like after 19, I've used other people's Costco cards like without incident. 19 i've used other people's cosco cards like without incident so that's what like leads me to be on like there's just got to be certain parts of like the state or the country where they're like super on their narc shit being like this isn't you type stuff because even like super producer becca just in the chat she's like i went to cosco yesterday and they didn't check shit they
Starting point is 00:51:18 just scanned it like cool yeah because most people don't have the fucking time i think it's important that we're all like every union that can is like striking and like taking things down but i do think there also is like this silent strike that needs to be happening yeah it's like what's the it's like quiet quitting but like quiet striking right employees are just letting people get away with it as much as possible yeah do your thing yeah i don't care It ain't my meat. Yeah, go ahead. Take that. Have you guys seen that boozy video about him talking about the grape jelly at McDonald's? No. No. Now, listen, as somebody who also is like, yo, man, give me my damn grape jelly, bro.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Right. Stop being stingy with the grape jelly. Right. He was like, he went and he ordered a biscuit sandwich. And he was like, yo, can I get some grape jelly? And she only gave him one. And he was like, yo, man, I need my shit messy. Come up off that grape jelly, man.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Why are you limiting my grape jelly? He was mad as hell. He was like, if you're the person that giving shit about giving me threefold grape jellies, you about to be at McDonald's for the rest of your life which is not the wrong way he's saying the mentality of like if you care about this but i'm sure there are other franchises that probably are monitoring shit and they probably like they're there's i'm sure on some level there's like retribution for giving away too many ranch packets or some shit all that to say you know rummy my jelly we look the other way you know for all the costco fans out there as much as you can do it yeah uh and then finally
Starting point is 00:52:50 i gotta talk about the sheen influencer trip that was doing the rounds on social media twitter instagram all over so the chinese fashion brand sheen became the world's most popular fashion brand in 2022 thanks mainly to their i guess the tireless efforts of online influencers who have basically been at the center of like all their marketing. But now it seems like these influencers may be, you know, causing the company some problems because of this like very obvious propaganda trip that many people were posting about this last week. But I think from the outside
Starting point is 00:53:25 it was always pretty clear like sheen was up to some weird shit because yeah like the clothes were like cheaper than you could ever believe and and then reportedly they added anywhere between 2 000 and 10 000 individual styles to its app each day between july and december of 2021 they just suddenly were like hoovering up different designs like yeah we make that too we make that too and then people started looking into it found out that she and employees are being barely paid working something like 75 hour shifts sometimes in informal factories set up in residential buildings or other like windowless places with no emergency exits so you know you know, this isn't new. I mean, you know, we've in the past, you know, like apples use child, like child labor.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Like this is we've this is something that just exists because of, you know, global capitalism. But now there's also like people are now talking more about the environmental impacts of fast fashion because it's putting out like untold levels of carbon as well. Six point three million tons of carbon dioxide last year and some products like even the ones for kids have like wild levels of lead in them so a lot of people were like what's going on with sheen so they basically oh on top of stealing ideas from other designers that's another thing that happened but then they would just hire them to quote unquote collaborate and then be like here's some money man, man. Can you just, can we just dead this? Like, stop talking about how we stole
Starting point is 00:54:48 the idea. And so for our brand. So now this last week, we saw all these videos of like fashion influencers who went to China to like visit their quote factories and just give an update from their perspective as like unbiased people who are being flewed out and being put up in nice hotels and even 10 course meals to then go and talk about the conditions in a very you know manicured manufactured way um one of the influencers who described themselves as a investigative journalist and confidence advocate activist basically praised the whole thing. I'm going to play like a quick montage of how the like Shein social like account was being like, look at all these great sound bites we got from these like really beautiful
Starting point is 00:55:35 people. This made my blood boil. The most fascinating thing is that I've seen the exact process of Shein clothing. I've seen how it's designed. I've seen how it's made. Now I'm going to see how it's packaged and shipped off. And I feel like that's such a unique perspective to be able to see as not only a creator, but a consumer of Shein. Wow. Wow. I want to beat her up.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Then they have all these very wonderful clips of them walking around the factory. It's high tech. You don't see a single worker. No, no, not at all. Not at all. Oh, wait,
Starting point is 00:56:09 let's, let's get some more sound bites over here. Yeah, here we go. This is when they're talking about the packaging and shipping process. Yeah, it's like quicking them up into smaller batches. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Yeah, at that packing, like for order. Okay. There's a lot of automation and technology here compared to the other places. This is like less human run and more technology and automation like put into the actual process. So I'm really excited to see what that looks like. So they go on and they do all this kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:56:35 I was like less workers. Yeah. I was clocking a few different accounts, like just to see how some people had things. They're like, oh, some of you guys like wrote me questions that you wanted me to ask them. So I asked the representative about things like wages and they told us it's a very competitive wage. And that's like it.
Starting point is 00:56:52 They just, they just took whatever the, the public, like the PR line and just like, we're like, okay, great. Fantastic. Yeah. And then like another person was talking about like how this is a fantastic thing. They're like this, that the logic was the factory couldn't be a sweatshop because the workers quote,
Starting point is 00:57:10 weren't even sweating. I could be a sweatshop if they weren't even sweating. So like, blast the AC harder, blast it harder, make it frigid. Then it'll never be a sweatshop. That's all it is.
Starting point is 00:57:22 And then another one was like, this is why it's important that you're an independent thinker. And like, you have to go and see things with your own eyes, even though you're not like being honest that you were in like one of the most curated,
Starting point is 00:57:35 like optics managed trips, like in recent memory. Well, and there's like a part in the video where they're like, they're loading up a box and they're having fun. And I'm just like, uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Okay, do that for 75 hours straight. Yeah. And then take that paycheck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Also, you'd be yelled at for the pace that you're doing it at. Like, go do one shift.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Go do one shift and see how you actually feel. It's wild, though, because once these videos came out, most people rightfully were like, are y'all really this fucking thick? They fucking flew you out to show like they're they're buttering you up, obviously. So you then go and say, I had a great time. Everything that they showed me that they sort of decided that that was something I could see as a someone who would report back was fine. And there's absolutely no critical thing. A lot of these people took their videos down, like, very quickly. And all it did was
Starting point is 00:58:29 just drive up the conversation about what the fuck is going on with Shein. So, you know, you win some, you lose some, I guess. It's wild to see those. Don't buy this shit. It makes you look cheap as fuck, too. It falls apart. It makes Forever 21 look like legacy clothing, you know what I mean you know what oh yeah like couture
Starting point is 00:58:46 clothing from the 70s or something like it's like these are yeah it's again but this is where we're at like with hyper consumption you know what i mean everyone's so wowed by having like you know wear this or that like immediately but at the end of the day like it's it's just wild to see how like there are these constant ways of trying to trick the public into like everything's not as bad as it looks obviously so please just continue to buy our very thin shirts it's so wild too because it's like i get it if you like if like retail therapy is like one of your things go to good you know go to a go to goodwill go to out the closet go to any of these secondhand places.
Starting point is 00:59:26 You can find all the exact same stuff that you're finding online. Yeah, they got Shein in there. They do. I've seen it. You know what I mean? You go to Crossroads and shit. Do what your Shein fix at any of these places. Just go buy it there. Go take the extra time. Go buy stuff there.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Hold on, Brandi. Hold on, Brandi. I can't buy my Jordans at Goodwill now. I can't buy stuff there. Like it's, it's at a, hold on, hold on Brandy. Hold on Brandy. I can't buy my Jordans at Goodwill now. I can't buy my James. Poshmark. Go to Poshmark. I bet you they got them on Poshmark. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:59:53 the real, real, you know. Come on now, Miles also hard clenched when, eBay. I bet you Jordans are eBay. Okay,
Starting point is 01:00:01 there we go. eBay. eBay. There we go. eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay,
Starting point is 01:00:04 eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay, eBay like eBay. eBay. There we go. eBay. You got it there. Me and Miles both like, uh. My sneakers. My sneakers. My sneakers. My sneakers. We sweating.
Starting point is 01:00:11 We sweating. Look, I wish I could play it straight the whole time. But sometimes there's that little boy from the 90s inside of me whose parents didn't have enough money to buy sneakers. Of course. And they were always told, get a damn job if you want these sneakers and then cut to cut to my baby not having enough food because daddy needs his sneakers anyway shout out to the dad of the year for me uh shout out to brandy and jack keys for joining me today thank you so much
Starting point is 01:00:41 uh brandy posey where can people find you and follow you, support you and all that? Yeah, I'm at Brandazzle on Instagram and Twitter. My podcast is Lady to Lady. And actually, I launched a comedy record label this year
Starting point is 01:00:55 called Burn This Records. You can find me at Burn This Records on Instagram for now. And yeah, it's just putting out at a much fairer split than most of the other comedy labels.
Starting point is 01:01:09 People that I think are really funny and work really hard and aren't getting the do in this really messed up system that we call a business. So it's just trying to get money in the pockets of hardworking people. So follow Burn This Records. We're putting out good stuff. Dope. Is there any works of social media or something that you like that you want to point people to or any kind of media tv oh yeah let me plug also on instagram long.furby.fam if you're not following them there it's this guy that does like the weirdest shit he just like puts furby faces onto different he just like makes new furby
Starting point is 01:01:48 creatures and all the accounts like all the videos kind of feel like tiny little horror movies they're fucking weird but it just it feels like a different reality that's also hellish but a hellish that's different from what we're living in so to me i find it it hits the same place as like asmr to me a little bit. So highly recommend Log Furby fam. It's stupid as fuck. Jack Keese, thank you so much for joining me, man. Where can people find you, follow you?
Starting point is 01:02:18 I think you're performing this weekend too in LA? I am. Always a pleasure. You know, you can find me in the streets baby and uh yeah doing uh you know i got some shows at ucb this weekend which uh what's today thursday yeah look if you're in la you want to come see elefante come check out elefante comedian feud every month always a good time uh but also you know just just live your life it's summertime we got shows all the damn time i get it man go on vacation i'll i'll be around i'll be around
Starting point is 01:02:53 you can still you can come whenever you want uh as far as i'm concerned and at jackie's neil on everything or on instagram because i'm not on everything. So on IG, baby. What about any tweets or anything? Videos? You know, TV. I got a couple. I got a couple for you. I got one from I that guy D.
Starting point is 01:03:18 He was like, or they were like, I try to accept a lot as karma, but ain't no way I did that much to no damn body very funny to me uh and then there's another one from lovely mn peach and she's like black folks put comment in the tub and walk away like it's seasoning very fucking true uh and then there's like another thread of uh shit black people always saying and is uh see someone working out black people now see that's what I need to be doing. On point. You can find me at milesofgray Twitter, Instagram. Check me out
Starting point is 01:04:12 on our basketball podcast. Miles and Jack got mad boosties. We're going to be in Las Vegas for NBA Con next weekend, so if you're around for that, say what's up. Or try and get a picture with Victor Wembenyama, like I'll probably try to do. And then, let's see. I can't wait to see your picture of you standing at his dick he is the tallest motherfucker i've ever seen his nuts are gonna be above my head it won't even be
Starting point is 01:04:36 touching me crazy bro it's wild how much 12 feet tall yeah it's wild how much he made everyone else look so small in that draft he'd look like, Jesus, I've never seen somebody that tall. And then also, if you like 90 Day Fiancé, check Sophia Alexander and I out on our other podcast for 20 Day Fiancé, where it's getting good, folks. Let's see some tweets I like. First one is from fan favorite and show favorite, Paula V. Ganahl. And at Paula V. Ganahl tweeted, there is no love language greater than shit talking other people together. And that is so true. That's like, you know, when your friends get together and you start getting messy all over again, like Lionel, you'll love to see it.
Starting point is 01:05:14 And then finally, the last tweet I like is from Michael Harriot. Michael Harriot tweeted, before you begin your think piece, the Supreme Court did not strike down affirmative action. Admission preferences for legacies, donors, employee families, and special recommendations are still allowed. The court struck down affirmative action for everyone except white people. Good way to look at that.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Because we have many other ways that we're seeing wealthy people or people who have just benefited from our society. Just getting a little bit easier. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter, The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We've got a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our
Starting point is 01:05:52 episodes and our footnote. Footnote? There it is. Where you can find all the articles that we talked about today, as well as a song we're going to write out on. What are we writing out on? Well, we're going to go out on another track from this Keitranada and amine collaboration album called katra mine it's called who he is uh it's a fantastic track just i mean
Starting point is 01:06:11 katrinada just doesn't miss as a producer and amine is fantastic on the mic uh so check this one out just kick your weekend off and enjoy uh any days off if you got them please please do uh that's gonna do it for us uh we'll be back on what is that wednesday yeah wow it's gonna be a minute because we're gonna spread our summer wings and then we'll be back then to tell you everything that happened over the weekend and even more and we'll talk to you then all right bye i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
Starting point is 01:06:49 And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden.
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