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Episode Date: September 12, 2025

In episode 1930, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and host of Finding My Audience, Allen Strickland Williams, to discuss… Spot The Difference Between The Right’s Response To Charlie Kirk vs Melissa Hortman, It’s Been A Privilege And An Honor Podcasting With You... Now The AI Wave Will Consume Us, Kamala Harris Dunks On White House In New Memoir (Which Readers Will Likely Never Finish and more! New York Yankees Hold 'Moment of Silence' for Charlie Kirk Assassination Trump orders flags flown at half-staff following Charlie Kirk assassination Armstrong directs flags at half-staff to honor death of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, 9/11 Trump's absence from slain Minnesota lawmaker's funeral goes beyond indifference Trump Ignores Funeral Service for Victims of MAGA Madman Trump 'filled with grief' over Charlie Kirk's shooting. Here's what to know about the right-wing activist Utah Republican senator faces backlash over post condemning Kirk’s killing 5,000 Podcasts. 3,000 Episodes a Week. $1 Cost Per Episode — Behind an AI Start Up’s Plan Kamala Harris' potential next move: A book In new book, Kamala Harris says it was reckless to let Biden make reelection decision on his own The Constant Battle - The first excerpt from 107 Days Kamala Harris to Publish ‘107 Days,’ a Memoir About the 2024 Campaign Politicians Write Lots Of Books. Here’s How Far Into Them People Read. LISTEN: Loser by Tame Impala (Official Video)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Do you ever have that nightmare of, like, you switch bodies with a professional athlete and so, like, in the middle of the game? And you're like, fuck. I don't know what to do. I feel like when that's happened, I was killing it. Oh, in your dreams? Pure fantasy. Yeah, yeah.

It's only when I'm myself that I'm an abject failure in my dream. Isn't that with a point of dreams so I can not be my failure of a self? Yeah. we're just like anxiety fever dreams is another way to another direction you could go with your unconscious I'm always fighting this kid who bullied me

on this one hockey team and my fucking and my arms are just in sand dude yeah yeah yeah that's what I have yeah yeah I always like get in fights and then I can't like I'm floating an inch off the ground so I can't like run away which is what I would actually

do in a fight and and my like arms are like very it like feels like they're under water. I like the fight or flight. My fight is that my arms are completely just restrained from physics or something and you're a flight, but you're like, I can't get my feet on the ground. You can't run away from this guy. This is an I-Heart podcast. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different.

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A message from Nitsai and the Ad Council. Hello, the Internet, and welcome to Season 405, episode 5 of Dirt Daily's Nightguise! This is a production of iHeart Radio is a podcast. We take deep dive into American Shade Consciousness. It's Friday, September 12th, 2025. Mm-hmm. September 12th, man. Yep.

Never forget. Never remember. It's the day after September 11th. It's National Day of Encouragement. It's also a National Hug and High Five Day. National Just One Human Family. This is some All Lives Matter shit. National Report Medicare Fraud Day.

Okay, thanks, Republicans' National Video Games Day, okay, and National Chocolate Milkshake Day, okay. I can get on those two. It's a perfect summation of just our country where they're like, here, you can have video games and chocolate milk assholes, but... But report Medicare fraud. Exactly. We're all watching. And also hug and high five somebody. And just like, let's talk about unity and, like, keeping it together.

Yeah, unless you're doing Medicare fraud because you're probably an immigrant. I'm like, okay, what the... Why do you have to do that voice? Does that voice like part of your process? Kind of. I'm going through some stuff. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Potatoes O'Brien. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host.

Mr. Miles Gray. Hey, it's Miles Gray. Yay, the Lord of Lancashim. The showgun with no gun. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Also, my denim is so smelly. I guess I should.

jeans i messed up my jeez jeans mr makes them good as clean after i ship my jeep my jeans messed up my jeans Justin Connor on the discord huh no huh huh Justin Connor on the discord getting in there after like that winning our episode yesterday he's gonna go I'm sorry Justin Justin was the one who told us about the shooting in between the first act and the second act, which is definitely his job. You may have caught a vibe shift in that episode.

Yeah, yeah. Fuck. Anyway, great fucking AKA, from super producer, Justin. Got the syllables right and everything. Miles. We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by

a very funny comedian and writer who you've seen doing stand-up in places like your TV and internet. His debut album ran through is available on streaming platforms and vinyl, which gives it a nice little warm sound. His podcast, Finding My Audience is available

wherever you get your favorite podcast. Please welcome back to the show, the hilarious Alan Strickland William! Oh my God, so good to be back, guys. Thanks for having me. How are you all to have you? Wait, I didn't know your album was on vinyl. It's on vinyl, yeah.

Check it out. You can find myself, Alan Strickland Williams.com. I think it'll cost you a cool $25 and you get to be the coolest person in your building or zip code with a little bit of vinyl. And if you also don't have a record player, maybe you've got a big cup and you could use it as a big coaster. Yeah, bowl coaster, punch bowl coaster. Yeah, salad bowl coaster for generations. You don't have to have a record player.

We can get clever with this stuff. It can be a frisbee, right? oh hey you know what i will i will plug though real fast just because you guys have them all the time chris crofton yeah i had him on the my last episode of finding my audience and uh had a good talk with him about his album and his documentary and um yeah so if any listeners you know after you listen to this yeah yeah yeah fuck it fuck it just stop this yeah let's go check out crossden we can we can cut this off all right man well where can people find you allan allan striplemiams.com all right great well it's great having you on man yeah everybody everybody you know what to do

go listen to crofton right now on alice podcast how was he it was great yeah as usual yeah it's it's very difficult to describe chris crofton it's like we i've tried many times it's it's an experience yeah how do you how do you describe a crisp spring morning you know that's right yeah it's what chris crofton Yeah, Chris Crofton is definitely the closest analogy I can come up with is a crisp spring one for Crofton. I was just going to say there's everywhere I heard it, but just like

the anecdote that comedy albums like took the world by storm and like at a certain point like in the 60s or 70s somebody like had the idea of like what if we put stand-up comedy on records and it was like this big fad to just like people would have listening parties. People would just like come over and sit around and listen to a stand-up

album on their record player. And that's like as jealous as I've been of the past. You know, just being like, no, that's all you need as an excuse to have people hang out. It's just like, hey, I got a new record. You never did that with like comedy CDs in the 90s? Yeah, like informal hangs, like in my friend's basement, you know, listening to like what the hell happened to me or some other. Yeah, they're all going to laugh at you. That definitely a formative experience, but like nobody was like, hey guys, come on this Friday for her. I just got

the new Richard Pryor, you know? They used to call him party records. And they would especially do it with like, like that's how Red Fox got really, really, like, successful as he would put out these like incredibly dirty. And they were like, a lot of them were really, really dirty. It was also stuff that like back in the day you would have actually

gotten like arrested for. for what's the word, decency or whatever, yeah, yeah. Right. So, yeah. I forget what movie. I think it might be O'Brother where Arthel, but there's a scene where, like, they go to a family's house and they're just all sitting around listening to a record

or listening to the radio and just like staring into the middle distance. It's like crazy for me to think about that, like being a thing that people do. And yet no less crazy than like what we do now where we like sit around with each other and look at our phones. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Our own little listening party.

All right. Well, we're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We are recording this on Thursday, starting around noon. So as of right now, no assassin has been arrested in the Charlie Kirk killing. We are going to just take a look broadly at the difference between how the right has responded to this versus how. They responded to the killing of Melissa Hortman earlier this year

to what appeared to be political assassinations. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about how this is probably going to be one of our last episodes because the Hollywood reporter recently had a piece where they talked to one of the media executives behind, what's it called, Inception, A.I. Inception Point A.I. Should learn the name of your future master. Who you'll be pleading with to keep your puny podcast human life on the airwaves.

Just one quote from the announcement from the CEO. I'm just going to excerpt this one sentence. And this is a full sentence. It might sound like I'm taking it out of context. We believe that in the near future, half of the people on the planet will be AI. What the fuck? Wait, what? Yeah, dude.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, half. Half of the people will be AI. Where do we at right now? It's a lot. How many billion people on the planet right now? It's a grown eight. Our AI.

Yeah, what, it's around eight point. Okay, so we're going to have 16 billion people in eight billion in the near future. Yeah, yeah. That's a lot of mouths to feed. Oh, man. They're so, you know, they're so horny for it. Yeah. In the C suite.

The C suite has, has the C suite ever been hornier for anything than they are horny for. Maybe the dot com. It's like the dot com thing. I think this is worse. The metaverse thing. Like that was a web 3.0. But I feel like that was a little bit more. Yeah.

I feel like those were more unevenly distributed. And like with the dot com boom, it was like these companies that were like out there, they were like rising up and like getting a lot of attention. But it wasn't like the Fortune 500 companies of the early 90s were all like, if you don't have like a. Maybe it was. I actually don't remember.

I was fucking a child. But like the way that like Apple just like took a hit, their stock took a hit because they didn't like incorporate AI enough into their earnings report. Talk about AI, idiot. Anyways, we'll talk about that. We'll talk about the new Kamala Harris book is coming where I think everyone's like, ooh, we're going to get some tea.

And it sounds like there's like some good shit in there. I don't know. It's kind of just shit that it's like nothing surprising. She's like, yeah, they all fucking worship Joe Biden and Jill Biden there and whatever. And you're like, okay. But you know, it's interesting today, though, because the Atlantic put out like an excerpt from the book that everyone's reporting on, now we're getting quotes from like anonymous Biden people who are fucking clapping back. Oh, really?

I'll read some of those, yeah, some responses from them. This is, by the way, a genre of book that according to the people at audiobooks.com is like, the least finished type of book, which is like audio books by presidential candidates. People buy them and they do not finish them. All of that, plenty more. But first, Alan, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history

that's revealing about who you are? Okay, so just recently there's been a bunch of pre-sales for Tame and Paula shows coming up. Oh. And I got kind of screwed, and I've gotten screwed before. These are Ticketmaster, of course. And so my last thing that I searched was, and the first word of it, it's very alarming, Reddit.

I searched Reddit, Refresh, Ticketmaster, or Wait. That's the full thing that I searched. Ah, yep, yep, yep. Because Reddit, for all of its many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many flaws. It actually is, like, a place where you can find stuff out every once in a way. You get good human advice, too. Yeah. Someone who is exactly dealing with or dealt with exactly what you're talking about.

And they gave me the answer. It told me exactly how to do it. Because a lot of times I'll wait and it says, oh, it'll refresh. But then, like, it doesn't actually put you in the queue. So even though you were there 10 minutes before, now you're in the back of the line and blah, blah, blah. So it's like, I figure out how to do it and it did work. what you're supposed to do is you get in like 15 minutes before

and just keep refreshing even if it's before the sale goes and eventually you'll get a Q code and once you have a Q code then you're good So were you able to get tickets? Yes, I did, yeah. For the shows at the forum? I got one at the show in the forum

and it just so happens that I'm going to be in New York City at the end of October when they're doing shows there and I got a ticket to that one as well. Oh, okay. Okay, young man. I'm a big, I guess you want to talk about personality. I'm a big C bands I like multiple times.

I didn't get to see Tom Petty that one show before he died, and it's like haunted me. Yeah, it's haunted me. I like Tom Petty's Florida. Like I really, and like it was a type of thing where it's like, I think I might have turned down two people that asked me to go to it. And so it's just like, that's really, really. obviously haunted me.

So, like, I saw Vampire Weekend eight times last year. Nice. That show was really good. Oh, man, so good. Now I'm going to see him again, I think, too. But, yeah, anyway, so that's a little insight. No, I do, like, read it because there's even stuff for, like, I remember when I was trying to buy a refrigerator, like, a while back, there would,

you get these things where people are like, let me tell you, I'm, like, an appliance repair person, and, like, this one brand, I rarely see warranty complaints on. And you're like, that's like the legit thing. And it's the fucking information I'm looking for. Someone who repairs it, go, but I never have to fix these ones. And you're like, there it is. Thank you. Thank you, hardworking appliance repair person on Reddit.

I, it is interesting, like, that Reddit is that, like, all the, all Reddit is, like, a shadow version of the regular internet without sponsored bullshit, like, slipped in. So, like, you know, like, when, you're searching is just that's what the internet used to be is just like a place where the posts are not sponsored by companies trying to

just get your money. So it's just like, what if the internet wasn't like completely and irrevocably broken by capitalism? It's like, I feel like and Reddit has its flaws. You have to tag Reddit at the end. Because if you search Best Refrigerator

straight up, it's just going to be some spawn con. Exactly. Yeah. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated? Okay, this is really dumb, but for years and years and years, I have been driving around without a phone holder in my car. Uh-huh. And I just got one, and we're not talking about these things enough.

It's amazing. It's amazing. It's amazing. Oh, my God. Like, literally, I want to say the last time I had one was probably sick. six-ish more than five years ago, maybe even significantly more. So it really is the type of thing where I'm like, wow, I literally had the phone the other day driver.

I was like, my phone's right there. It's just right there. I don't have to look down. Oh, my God. So anyway, I think those little pieces of plastic are pretty underrated. Prior to that, you were just driving around with it in front of your face, with one of your hand holding it up in front of your face. An exact same spot where the holder would be.

Yeah. And I had a couple phones. I had the Android item all. I had like a Rube Goldberg machine. Elmage, GoPro, dash cam, all of it. Yeah. But now I just have the one holder. Yeah.

Always a boxing glove and a boot that's connected to a wheel somehow. Oh, yeah. It's a boot like on a plunger. Yeah, on a plunger that like spins for it and kicks something. A bowling ball. I'm usually driving down Banana Peel Lane. is it a phone holder that connects into the air conditioning vent yes but it is also one that has enough space so that it it's like I can still feel the air from that yeah that sounds like you

got a good one out yeah I got to search Reddit you search Reddit to figure out which one to get no that one I just took I that one I just took a stab in the red dart because I think I think what I think what happened was the phone fell or something. I was like, let me just get one of these fucking things right now. And you were doing the search on a broken phone from having fallen. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah. Phone holder for a car.

And then you just hit the I'm feeling lucky button. That's not even a thing anymore. Oh, yeah. Do they even have? I think they killed that. Oh, no, they do. They do. Here, I'm going to do right now.

Phone holder for car. And guess what? assholes at Google. I'm feeling fucking lucky. Oh, it just fucking feels lucky. It doesn't even give, I didn't realize what it does. It just sends you to whatever the top result. Oh, yeah. Okay. That sent me straight to Amazon. Uh, amazing. They should, I feel like they should be like, I'm feeling really lucky. And like, you hit that and you just like get the thing, whatever they want to send you. They're just like, yeah, you just bought that shit. I'm going to put

Tame and Paula tickets refresh. I'm feeling like, lucky. There you go. Just send me straight to fucking Ticketmaster. There you go. They are good friends at Ticketmaster. What is something, Alan, that you think is overrated? All right. This is going to be really controversial, and I know

that everything's been really calm and hunky dory recently, but I'm going to stir the pot. Uh-oh. The arc light. I'm going to say that the arc light is overrated. I'm tired of hearing about it. It's over. Did you not get our...

Did you not get our... Did you not get the email where we said that you couldn't talk? Justin, Justin, stop the recording. We can't do this out. Are you trying to get our show taken off the air? It's so funny just because I like, I love the arc light because of the innovation of reserving your seats. But then once that became like another, that became pretty much the norm. I'm like, the way people talk about the arc light is like their dad went out for a pack of smokes and never came back.

It's just like, it's so, so too much. And also it's just like, I think it's just one of those things where absence makes the heart grow fonder. Because it's like, when you're really in that, that specific part of Hollywood, too, it's just like, we're healthy on days, healthy on days. I mean, where is an arc light anymore? Oh, they're gone. They're gone. They're out of business. Yeah, this is going to say.

Yeah. I feel like, isn't there, there's not even one left somewhere? Because I know, like, the Sherman Oaks one's gone. Obviously, Hollywood's gone. No, I think the whole company went out of business during the pandemic. And it's some weird thing, too, was in American movie theater chain, yeah. Like, why did they? Like, is it, it's like, is it whoever owns the property?

Is it like a lease thing or what? But, yeah. Well, now you're going to get me in trouble because now this is where I start talking about the pandemic. Yeah. Yeah. How come we don't have the Cinerama Dome anymore, huh? That's right. Where the real truths are being transmitted to us.

It is funny because I totally agree that it's like we're remembering it here. Like we're remembering a version of it at a time when it was like doing some innovative things that nobody else was doing. And now all those things have been like co-opted by AMC. And like that's, that does suck. Like it sucks that we're like AMC did it. You can fuck off. But it is. Yeah.

I just don't get what, like, my thing is I'm just like, why didn't, why didn't any, like, really rich person just step in and, like, do, like, kind of the same way Clinton Tarantino, like, did with, like, The Vista or whatever. And also it's like, but, but my, the reason why I brought up is because just I still hear people talking about it. I'm still always hearing people talk about it. So I'm just like, maybe it's, maybe it's like true love. Maybe it's like, when we finally all collectively, like, let it go, then it will come back. Yeah, yeah. That's right.

Okay. I like that. I like that theory that, like, once you work on yourself, so this is, it's not saying that the arc light is not a worthy, you know, subject of our adoration. It's just that we need to work on ourselves. Yeah. To serve the archlet. Yeah.

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You know, this is coming out a day and a half after, you know, Charlie Kirk was murdered. We're recording it less than 24 hours after. Donald Trump is already, like, waged war on anybody who is critical of, of him and his ideology. So, yeah, we just wanted to, like, compare how this assassination, like, this is something we talked about on yesterday's trending, but, like, a real, like, very horrifying.

Like, I don't think, like, the combination of everybody seeing it, like, the number of places that it was being shown to people, like, including the New York Times, the fact that it's, like, a person that I guess he's not like a household name, but he's like, well, like people knew who he was, or at least a lot of people had seen him. And then just like how fucking gory and awful it was was, like a really traumatic thing. And, you know, I think it's a potent material that the right is working with. And I think they know that and are like digging in as much as possible. Oh, completely.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. But it's not just like the right. It does feel like the New York Yankees held a moment of silence for Charlie Kirk, which he was a media, he was a media guy. Like that's the other thing. He was just like a media guy. Right. Yeah.

And like one that had some pretty horrific white supremacist views. So the fact that like a mainstream institution like the New York Yankees is holding a moment of silence when again, like comparing this to representative. Melissa Hortman, who was a politician in Minnesota, who was assassinated. She and her husband and their dog were assassinated in their home by a Trump supporter earlier this year. And the Yankees did not hold a moment of silence for them. The Yankees statement that they issued on social media couldn't be bothered to mention the school shooting that happened in Colorado, like right at the same time. And yeah, it's just, it is a. a fallacy, logical fallacy, that the right in the United States really likes to play on, which is just selection bias and, you know, only showing and, like, focusing on crimes and really visceral things that are going to support their political point of view. And, you know, they just pick and choose which victims of political violence they recognize. One thing real quick that I just sort of was thinking is,

that step with the Yankees thing it's like that came from the owner like right like that like they that person major league baseball thing someone at the Yanke's like we got to do this that's a guy that probably like

at some function or whatever met Charlie Kirk and was like he's a nice guy he's a family man we have to do this I just kind of like because it is weird it's like why would a baseball team comment on this in general like right I think it

indicates a guy, and I was saying this on the trending episode yesterday, is just how much, like, the now default sort of perspective people have is that of a conservative or through conservative media. Institutionally, that is certainly the case. Yeah, that's just where, that's the default now. And I think, you know, like, even what the Yankees posted, it said, quote, before tonight's game, we had a moment of silence and memory of Charlie Kirk. Kirk founded the youth activist group, Turning Point USA and become a fixture on college campuses.

Charlie Kirk, a husband and father of two, was 31 years old. you're like leaving out all of the details that it's a white supremacist group and and what and exactly like that rhetorically they're fanning the flames of these of this of this completely out of control fucking arrow we're in um especially with right right wing extremism and the normalization of like whites like white nationalism but again i think that's because that's that's currently the default of american culture culture is to be like well, we don't say things like that. We just look past that and we're just going to say that this is a person and that's what it is.

And yeah, I think that's really the thing that was really, that struck me was to see the number of like pieces that were written that were like leaving out all, like just completely obfuscating like what his legacy is in terms of a media personality. Or if you want to like that, even feels like an euphemistic. Right or left or whatever, I mean, especially after something like, especially an incredibly I saw the video, gruesome, like, very real, very real, very traumatic. There is just such a strong inclination to live in the fantasy world and to not deal with the reality of what is actually going on.

So it's like this is an opportunity for a lot of people to harken back to like a time that people are talking about free speech and stuff like that. in this and it's like literally what a month and a half ago cops are like busting heads on college campuses because students deign to say we shouldn't give money to Israel like you know it's just like they totally totally it's just an opportunity and as we're seeing you know I'm sure we'll dig into this but like I just the thing that really got under my skin was Nancy Mace just like reacting so

and yes I understand it's raw and I'm not denying anyone their emotions response to what happened and what they're seeing, especially if they knew this guy, but they're immediately laying it at, they're literally saying, this is the Democrats' fault. They don't know who it is. I think they've released a picture of the personnel, but they have no lead. They have no idea who it is or why they did it. And I'm like, oh, this is what they want. They want this moment and they want to foment it.

and they want, it's probably easier for them if the Americans just start attacking each other than if they have to do any crowd control stuff or anything like that. Yeah, or, well, I think this is an excuse to do the crowd control stuff that they want to do, which will allow them to not have election in 2020. Yeah, yeah, but just to reiterate this comparison that I think a lot of people are making, a U.S. lawmaker, you know, Melissa Hortman, a politician, a politician. was assassinated three months ago. Flags were not flown at half-mast across the country.

Trump has ordered that all flags across the country be flown at half-mast until September 14th. Yeah. And his social media response to the Hortman assassination back in June didn't even mention her name. Of course, didn't take any responsibility with the person who committed that murder being a Trump supporter, refused to give Tim Walls a phone call and skipped her funeral

and went golfing with Lindsey Graham instead. So it is just like, you know, the most, it's blatantly politicized. Anything he's saying about like political violence being out of hand is only being observed about one type of political violence. Yeah. I think I'm also just, it's a, Again, the amount of attention being paid to this by people who are like diametrically opposed on the political spectrum to Kirk, it's like very odd to me. I'm like, I don't know, maybe you just give it the same amount of attention that the Republicans give to a slain democratic lawmaker. Right. Like there is this sort of like having to prove that they're like there's like a moral high ground. But I mean like, you know, say whatever you need to say.

But to again, like to see people like write these pieces. the New York Times, they were like, I had a lot in common with him. You did? In what way? And then also be like he was a free speech advocate. I'm like, can you define free speech advocate? Like, is that to, does that mean they fight for everyone's right to free speech? Or is it?

He was such a big, he was such a big for part of the abundance agenda. Right. Like, what, what is going on? But again, I think that's what's, I think that's what's really surreal, again, is to see how the culture is completely reset and be like, well, this is the default way to speak about this, don't mention anything that, like, try and absolve this person of everything they've said and every, like, horrible thing they've said about non-ciss-head white people. And that's also where we see the, like, yeah, journales and political pundits and other people

with podcasts are going to take that tack, because in this moment, like, podcaster is like the ultimate, like, thing. It's not, it's not the political. political thing right now. It's like, it's the fact that this could happen to someone that isn't political, isn't elected, isn't a public official, but, you know, has the ears of all these many people is a huge platform. It's just a, it's a very hard realization of how muddied everything has become and how obviously this is somebody we already knew, but we're just seen it in real time, just how the institutions are basically worthless. I mean, literally, like, the FBI can't catch the guy because there's this fucking idiot

that's in charge of it right now. And, like, I mean, just that was like live tweeting the thing. I was like, we got someone. Okay, it wasn't him. We got someone. Ah, shit, it wasn't him. It's like, what the fuck, man? It's like, why are you playing the crab rave music after that?

It's like, we got them. We got them. Actually, we don't. We don't. I mean, just another, like, kind of. institutional thing is that South Park episode was taken down. Really? In the aftermath, yeah.

It was taken off of Comedy Central. I think it's still available on Paramount Plus, but... Was there one about this? Well, there's one just one Charlie Kirk. Cartman played a Charlie Kirk type character with Charlie Kirk hair. Oh, shit. Yeah.

I mean, it was a thing that, like, you know, Charlie Kirk said he thought was hilarious. But yeah, I usually think this is hilarious. But the way that people on the right responded to that was somebody said on X, they mocked him on TV, then they killed him in real life. Comedy has consequences, a turning point USA staffer posted on telegram. The thing is like to get browbeaten like over this when this, it's just obviously you have the intentionally hypocritical people on the right who are like, please tell me about jokes again. and what leads to real life outcomes and what doesn't. But I think that's what just kind of surreal too is you just see all of this,

like someone who you hear their words and like, this is actually, this is terrifying to hear someone express these kinds of viewpoints to an audience of millions that is meant to essentially make people like me or who look like me, like just subhuman and free to just to slander the good, name of innocent people just because they're transgender or whatever. I don't know. I mean, I'm always, like, wrestling with how America just kind of, like, rears its ugly

head, but to have, like, just kind of, like, to see, it almost feel like the tone of the media be like, you have to grieve this person right now. Yeah. It's a little, it feels like, like, I'm like, what the fuck, man? I'm, the shit that he was talking about is absolutely terrible. terrifying to me. And I'm now expected to, like, feel a completely different way about a person who says words that are, for lack of a better word, presenting an existential threat to people like me. He had a family. Right. Yeah. And I get that. And you know, and that's the thing. I, like, especially becoming a parent myself, I don't wish an untimely death on anyone, especially like what, because I think about, too, I think about the position I'm in. And if, um, I left. sooner than I would hope and thinking of my own children.

That's fucking terrible. But I think you can, that can be true. And you can also report on the fact that everything this guy stood for was really like antithetical to like what a decent America would look like. And this is being used to kind of more deeply ingrain those values into the mainstream. Right. And no attempt to, that's one thing, too, that I just always go to. It's like, look at what the.

president is saying the president is not saying any sense of unity or coming together or anything like that no it's let's get them it's true let's get them let's make it worse and it's just like all right well i guess that's america yeah okay uh 200 odd years later 300 years later whatever half the country hates the other half of the country all right i guess i guess the experiment worked i mean yeah the 250th anniversary of the 4th of july will be real interesting next year they look back Wow, what a time it's been. Senator Mike Lee issued a tribute to American patriot Charlie Kirk on social media. This is the same person that after the Hortman assassination claimed to the killer was a Marxist

and posted a photo of the killer with the caption, Nightmare on Walt Street. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, yeah, it took a while for people to be like, what the fuck are you posting, man? He's like, oh, sorry, all right, I'll take it down. I'll take it down. Mike Lee is Utah, right? Yeah, Mike Lee is also Utah. That's the crazy.

The fact that it was in Utah is really nuts. Yeah. Like one of the most conservative, homogenous judge. That is very, didn't have that on my bingo card. Oh, man. There it is. He said it. All right.

And that was my main response to this was, it was so random. It was so random. So random. This year is like the most random year, I feel like. Oh, my God. This year is so random. Random. So fucking random right now.

Oh, my God. Did you see the ice rages? The ice rages or crin? And they're like so random. They're so random. They're so random, you guys. You know there's a podcast talking like that too. Right now.

I think that's most. This year just been so random right now. It's probably hosted by all 13 year olds. And it's fucking awesome. It does. It's so good. It's like that food podcast with those 13 year olds. That's so good.

Yeah, dude. Like, I don't know. What do you think of pepperoni pizza? I'm a pepperoni guy, yeah. All right. I think pepperoni's a little suss. But yeah, it feels, I mean, they've set this tenor for a long time. So it just, I think in some ways it's easy to dismiss.

It's like, oh, that's just like the right wing, fuck your feelings, insensitivity around the killing of a Democratic politician. But this, you know, it's, they're very specific in like an event like this and their immediate politicization of it makes it clear that there is a larger strategy that, you know, this is allowing them to sell this bullshit narrative that the left is solely responsible for political violence in America as opposed to like rarely responsible for the political violence in America. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just ironic, too, coming from Republicans being like, you know, you should, you should really respect this person and things need to be done in the aftermath of this when how many times do little children fucking get shot to death? And people are like, can you pass a fucking law or something? Like, is that? And again, they're just plugging their ears and just, you know, whistling past the graveyard, like nothing's going on. And I think that's just, again, like all of these ironies kind of really come together to sort of like just. present itself as like one big mind fuck in an event like this and be like oh and now they're going to use this to make shit worse for people probably i just think about the oklahoma city bombing and like the fact that that was like a right wing terrorist and like right never and it killed like so many children like it blew up like a fucking preschool and that's not like when

you think about that event it's not like and that was when we realized right wing terrorism was a problem and like it was just you know a detail of that. Not even, I mean, I for, I mean, I, what, that was 94, right? Yeah. And I just remember I was 10 years old and not that I was like, I, I, I watched the news because I was, you know, like on TV and I just would watch TV. But I remember like all of that was flattened into. And then this guy, Timothy McVeigh did it.

Lone Wolf. There it is. Yeah. Boom. And that's it. And then it wasn't until I was like in college. I was like, wait. Oh, God.

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Yeah. Just play like shit because I don't know how to play the violin. That would have been amazing if like one of the people was just like, sorry, I'm freaking out a little bit. Sorry, man. Also, I'm not very good. Do you know this? The fucking ship is really listing. it's oh man are we still gonna play my hands are so fucking sweaty right now how are you guys playing

does anyone have an ox cord yeah it'd be much easier if i can just play something some kind some chamber music but yeah uh i only say that and maybe flippantly maybe sincerely because i mean it sounds like they're gearing up to take over the podcasting world uh because the hollyd reporter recently had a piece where they spoke with the people behind inception A.I. And they make just a fuck ton of AI podcasts. I'll get to the numbers in a second. And they try to frame this article like in the beginning. They're like, God, aren't people aren't like networks tired of paying like humans to talk sort of thing? Or like paying celebrities, like these crazy deals. I do get that. What's the most disappointing? What's the most annoying part of podcasts? Having to pay the people who make the thing. That's the worst fucking part. Am I right, ladies? This year is so random. them. But anyway, the CEO of this AI company is a former exec from Wondry, another podcast network. And Jack alluded to her, like, Facebook post that she put out to like announce this thing. Hey, this is the full part. I'm thrilled to emerge from stealth and share the public

debut of Inception Point AI, the company I joined as co-founder and CEO this summer. Oh, my God. Just a, what an opening. Sorry. I'm thrilled to emerge from stealth. And share this, like, is such a great way to open any work of social media. Yeah. Why do you join as a co-founder? I think it's because someone with a fuck ton of money goes, hey, we'd love for you to be the face of this thing to give this thing some credibility. You want to be co-founder and we'll make CEO.

Yeah. Because also, like, I guess I haven't heard that phrase emerge from stealth before, but I don't know, goddamn. A little wonky use of that word. I'm thrilled to take off my ghost protocol. hood and reveal that I'm that I've joined an AI podcast company goes on as Jack said we believe that in the near future half of the people on the planet will be AI that's when my eyes rolled into the back of my head and I go we're cooked that you if there are people sipping the AI

Kool-Aid this hard I mean fucking yikes she goes on to say we're bringing these people to life and we're bringing the next generation content business model all powered by AI. In the process, we built what we believed to be the first AI talent management agency with an extensive roster of fake-ass people we created with algorithms. And that's been a thing already, too. Yeah, yeah. We've had these voices, these voice models being created and things like that. But now they're really trying to like brand each one and be like, and they do all kinds of stuff.

So their whole model is essentially to flood the zone with shit, podcasts, but because their overhead is so low, they can make a profit on a laughably small number of listens. This is from the Hollywood Reporter, quote, the company is able to produce each episode for $1 or less, depending on length and complexity, and attach programmatic advertising to it. This generally means that if about 20 people listen to that episode, the company made a profit on that episode without factoring in overhead.

Inception Point, AR has already made more than 5,000 shows across its network. and produces more than 3,000 episodes a week. Wow. And it's been up for like a couple of years, which does, again, beg the question of joining as a co-founder two years in. It's a good negotiating tactic, really. I could see this being just like a non-starter, because I do think that the thing people look for from podcasts is humanity.

It's like a thing that, like, they're not just necessarily looking for, like, some quick way to get facts shoveled into their brain. I think a lot of the time, you could read an article if you wanted that, or have an article read to you. But I could also see this kind of ruining things because they're going to be flooding the zone with so much shit. That's the part. That's the part right there.

That's the Amazon thing. Yeah. Right. It's just going to be so many bad podcasts, indistinguishable from our bad podcast. but completely, you know, flooding everything. There will be like five different podcasts. The good news is like this is not how people, like people don't find podcasts by being like,

all right, I'm going to go to Apple Podcasts and search for a topic that I think I want to know about. And then, you know, people find out about podcasts and then become loyal followers. Some do, according to them, apparently, because their whole thing set up is cool. Podcast topics are selected. with the help of AI based on Google and social media trends. And then the team may launch five different versions of the show with different titles

to see what performs the best. The podcasts are often titled after simple SEO search terms such as Wales. Wales. Yeah. It's, I was, I went to their website. One of our most popular episode is Wales. Is whales.

Wait. They got whales? Yeah. I got some fucking whale. Dude, I went to their, I went to their website to just look at what their shows are called, and it's shit like this. Diddy verdict, the British monarchy.

Oh, okay. Like, this one's crazy. AI and the climate crisis? Are you fucking serious? You're fucking need it with AI and thus contributing to the climate crisis? Yeah. Like, what is that one talking about?

Assassins, beaches, bourbon, munkers, Betty, Betty Boop, Chaos. Chuck Mangione Forever. I don't ever. China, China. China.

Communism. Creatine. There's this one called fucking creatine. Are these all episodes? Are these episodes of the podcast? No, these are series. Tell me a one. I'll click on it and we can hear, we can listen to one.

I mean, I kind of want to hear socialism. Oh, the socialism? Before they take it down. Okay, let's see. This is, this is here what they got. Oh, I'm not signing up, you fucking asshole. Yeah, you need to pay for it. That's a big air.

Let's see. Which simply means I never forget a vote, a quote, or a constitutional clause. This is AI. No ego, no PAC money, just pure, relentless recall. Tonight, we're tackling one of the most misunderstood, maligned, and frankly butchered concepts in American political discourse. Socialism. Here's my question, though.

You can, like, and maybe it will get better to where you really can't, but you can tell that that is AI. yeah yeah well they're also they're trying to they're sort of like trying to be as quote unquote ethical where they have the hosts up top say their AI yeah and one of the founders was like look dude I'm not trying to have like create like these models that people are going to have like deep relationships with because like this they see it as a completely different lane than human hosted podcast but like when you look at it you're like you're doing you're talking about subjects that humans currently make podcasts about so i don't know how you're like well no it's not

meant to replace that at all like it just we're just doing the same thing they are at of insane scale and maybe people will fucking listen to it like you know they're they have the hosts the names are really fucking dumb like for the food podcast i don't know what you're talking about i think these names are totally normal okay what name the host of the food podcast jack all right the food Cloudcast is named Oh, I actually love her. I actually follow her on lots of different. Claire Delish.

And then, of course, my favorite source for gardening info, miles. Nigel Thistledown. Yes. Thistle down. And the fucking, like, the AI models are, like, it sounds like the same ones you hear on TikTok, basically, when people use AI to caption shit. But again,

I believe's in nominative determinism. Yeah. Oh, yeah, like one of the finance one was like Penny Power or something like that. Just fucking dumb, goofy as shit. But again, I mean, I don't know. Like, will it replace it? I don't know. But I think like to your point, Alan, like it's bad when you have someone putting out 3,000 episodes a week of indistinguishable bullshit because that just makes it harder for anyone who actually wants to podcast to be to have to like there's now it's just all noise. And now how do you find the good ones? That's like a big part of Amazon's thing is like it's not that they just are undercutting and they sell the product cheaper. Instead, they've also, like they've taken away a viable way for people to make money. Like opening a small business to like sell goods is a bad business idea now because of Amazon.

And so that, yeah, that definitely. And I mean, I will say this, podcasters are truly some of the sickest people. in the sphere of the internet or whatever. Like it would be better if they went away, is what I think. So they're still going, they're still going to like go after it. But it is the type of thing where you do just think like, well, wait, but what if there are people that aren't just that discerning? And they're like, oh, I'm listening to this, you know, AI podcast and they don't really, they don't care one way or the other. Right.

they were about to on the socialism one I could hear the host leading in too so pour yourself a glass of your favorite bourbon or something like that and I was just like oh that is like there's a certain type of like medium tier podcast that like I've accidentally listened to where that's like the human element is like so pour yourself a favorite glass of bourbon I've got mine right here right and we're gonna dig in you know so maybe yeah maybe this is going to hit hit with the people who like listen to whatever those shows are we got a hit we got a hit i mean it's funny the co-founder of it who i imagine is the actual founder of it or the person who started it he got into this because during the pandemic he just started like reading like weather reports and shit um or no he was reading

daily cdc reports and then like and then a bunch of people started downloading it yeah just because he was just reading off a cdc report and he's like oh hey now then he did like weather reports did this Yeah. And he's like, whoa, weather report. And then he was like, there's a quote for him. He's like, you know, talking about how people who are really like, if you have crazy allergies, you look at like the pollen report and stuff. He said, quote, we might make a pollen podcast and maybe only 50 people listen to. But I'm already at unit profitability on that. So then maybe I can make 500 pollen report podcasts. Like these people don't, this is what happens when people have never made a fucking thing in their life. Why have we never once on this on the many, many hours of the show used the phrase. unit profitability. What a cool and soulful term. Yeah, yeah. That founder, and you know he is the actual founder because his name is Pod Founderman. Oh, the Cincinnati Foundermans.

Yes, of the Cincinnati Foundermans. Formerly of Louisville, Kentucky. All right. So that sucks. But there is some light at the end of the tunnel because, Kamala Harris has announced her memoir, a new memoir. It's coming out, baby, yeah. It's coming.

It's, I guess she hasn't announced it. She announced it a long time ago. It's coming. It's called 107 days. So it's like about the 107 days that she ran for president. Do you guys remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

We all realized like Biden was bad. And then he, we finally, like, everybody just pressured him enough into. leaving the race and then she had 107 days to run for president and like started with a spark and had like a couple good ideas and then those were immediately like like replaced by terrible shit by the Democratic Party and had a chance their advisors yeah she like had ideas about like greedflation and calling the Democratic or the Republican Party weird and they're like no no no no no no shut the why don't you shut the fuck up uh so Here, here, here, kiss Dick Cheney's daughter right now.

Kiss her on stage. That's going to work. So, yeah, she's doing some book tours, not at bookstores, but on a live speaking tour and major venues. Some tickets going for more than $400, not from like a reseller. That's the official price for a platinum ticket. What a fucking griff, man. That's fucking amazing. Just like, man, that was a, that's.

That was a shitty presidential campaign, huh? You want to hear me talk about it for $400 bucks? Yeah. Yeah, I do. I do. I do. I do. The excerpts are pretty telling, I'd say.

Presumably, like, people are looking for some tea spillage. And, like, she just really published an excerpt in the Atlantic that defends Biden to some extent, claiming that there was no cover up concerning his mental decline. Ah, okay. Now, that's where you lost me, Kamala. Come on now. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's, you saw some shit also would kind of implicate her if there were some. Yeah, right. Yeah. In a way, there wasn't really a coverout because literally the entire country was like, uh-oh.

That's true. All sides of every, like, there were like a few people that tried to deny it, but like. Yeah. We just chose not to answer your question. Right, right. Yeah. She also said, and this is the refrain from the Biden side, his debate cluster fuck wasn't. Incapacity, it was just tiredness owing to recent trips. And I think, and then add in from Hunter Biden a little bit of Ambien sprinkled in. So it wasn't incapacity. He's just at an age where he was incapacitated by being a little bit tired from traveling. He was taking a trip down memory lane. That's right.

But also remember that trips to take. That thing from Hunter Biden, and he was like, oh, he was on Ambien. And then, like, they looked at the schedules. Like, bro, he was, he was not traveling before. Like a week solidly before that. But again, like you're saying, like, that's not good if just, if traveling makes you all tired like that. Yeah, yeah. And you want to be present.

If you're tuckered out from a trip, like, a week later, like, that's, that's not a good sign. That's like me. I'm tuckered out from a trip a week later, but like, I don't want to be president. I'd be so bad at being present. I'd be so fucking sleepy. What would you do if Putin comes up to you and says head or gut, Jack? And I cry. I cry.

I'm not going out of it. You guys are so mean to me. My superpower, crying my way out of things well into my 40s. It would be interesting that, like, the American president with a completely different strategy from past American leaders, openly sobbing pathetically as a way to get, as a way to get deals. Just like, stop. like just stop like invading them like what the hell all right jesus stop fucking crying man my god you're gonna get snod on my suit you promise taft present taft big crier big yeah right

yeah but yeah there other things too where she was like where she is sort of like look there are a lot of times the right wing media was attacking me and they just didn't say shit the white House didn't have my back at fucking all. That is, and you're like, okay. Absolutely accurate. Like the energy coming out of the Biden camp during her run for president was like, I don't know for energy. Ha, ha, ha, not so easy to have a candidate who doesn't suck shit, huh?

Like, you know what I mean? Like, they were just like praying she would, you got a sense that at least a large part of them. Yeah. Maybe there were two wolves inside of them and one was rooting for her. But another was definite. hoping to see her fail and be vindicated for thinking that they had a better shot than her. Yeah. Yeah. There is another thing that she said, too, quote, it's Joe and Jill's decision.

We all said that, like a mantra, as if we'd all been hypnotized. The stakes were simply too high. This wasn't a choice that should have, she should have been left to an individual's ego and individual's ambition. It should have been more than a personal decision. Yeah. Okay. I don't know. I guess like, there's really nothing in here that isn't, that's like shocking to me. I'm like, yeah, of course they hung you out to dry. I mean, we saw that. This part, which I think we knew already worse, I often learned that the president's staff was adding fuel

to negative narratives that sprang up around me. One narrative that took a stubborn hold was that I had a chaotic office an unusually high staff turnover during my first year as vice president. I do remember that coming at a pretty critical point. Yeah. And like, that wasn't coming,

like they wouldn't have posted that if that was coming from like J.D. Vance. You know what I mean? Like, that was coming from someone inside the administration. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so that's fucked up. A lot of the two, it's like the Biden cognitive, whatever, cover up, this about how his team was mean to her. All of it just reads is like the Democratic Party has no idea what the fuck it's doing.

And like, if this is what like, and I don't know, I, I, to me, she feels done. I feel like as a populace, we're done with her. She also, I think, feels done. Like, I don't know if she would run again. But if she does, if she does, you know, maybe. But like, I'm just like, if this is what we're still talking about, it's like, we're fucked. But yeah, relitigating.

Yeah, the obvious, like, why did we lose? Like, guys, is it really that much of a mystery to you? Right. I think that's the only reason this story is of value is. just to further drive nails into the coffin of the Democratic Party is just like, guys, look how bad it was behind the scenes. Like, we all thought that they had a chance because we were hoping they had a chance. Behind the scenes, they were blowing it, you know? It's a capitalist clown show, and they don't know, they don't realize how their devotion to capitalism and the status quo was really its whole undoing.

And now it's now that I now seeing the quotes from the Biden administration people that are like giving quotes after in the aftermath of this excerpt. I'm like now I believe everything she says. Like one person said quote, vice president, uh, Harris was simply not good at the job. She had basically zero substantive role in any of the administration's key work streams and instead would just dive bomb in for stilted photo ops that expressed how out of depth she was. Wow. Holy shit, dude. That's what they're saying now the day after the, this. Yeah.

came out. President Biden was not the reason. You think we're mean? Actually, you're fucking stupid. Yeah, you're actually fucking dumb. That's not refuting what we're saying at all. Yeah, it's the same thing. You're just being mean.

Nobody likes you, but no one's going to tell you that to your face, but nobody actually likes you. They go on to say, quote, President Biden was not the reason she struggled in officer tanked her 2019 presidential campaign or lost the 2024 campaign for that matter. The independent variable there is the vice president, not Biden or his aides. damn son you're like that's like the best i've seen them at being like critical and clapping backbone they can't they couldn't do that against trump they couldn't yeah it's just but there's other quotes too that back what she says another uh aid or staffer who spoke

uh in this one article i think let me just make sure it in the new republic said that quote uh we all know that the biden folks treated her and her team like shit we never thought she would actually say anything. Staffers across a range of ages and positions that I'm talking to are proud of her. Yeah. So there's clearly like, I mean, again, it just shows a very divided administration. And I think that was really probably became clear as Biden just sat on his hands after October 7th, too.

Right. So, yeah, we will see where if this, if this harms her career, because you have other people being like, well, she just nuked her career. Really? Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I mean, like, I feel like the type of people who say that who are like, play it safe politically always have, have proven that they have some of the worst instincts in modern politics. I mean, like, think about like Anthony Wiener, you know what I mean, who went to prison?

Like, he's even trying to get back in. Yeah. You know, so it takes a lot to get it through to these people that it's like, hey, maybe you're cooked. Yeah. I don't think so. Yeah. I don't know. If only they had like some blueprint of a past.

forward that had a lot of public support, like a New York mayoral candidate who was dominant and extremely popular that they've chosen to completely ignore and try and fuck over. Well, it's like the thing where it's like, it's like, say like the like the Democrats are like big Pepsi people and they're like, no, it's Pepsi for everyone. Like everyone likes Coke and look no. No. It's Pepsi. It's like, I look at the fucking numbers, man. Nobody's drinking. The numbers are tainted. And like they can't eat. even fucking admit it. They're just like,

fuck, like, none of them are backing Zorn. Like, you're like, what the fuck is going on? That, I mean,

again, it's just like, I, I've just never felt more done with the Democratic Party as a whole. I'm just like, I don't know what you want for me.

I want nothing from you guys, I guess. Like, yeah, this is just crazy. Yeah. Seems bad. Well,

Alan Strickland Williams, such a pleasure having you on the Daily Zykeist, as always, where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff. Find me on Instagram, Alan Strickland Williams.

I'm totally Allen, on Twitter, on TikTok, I think. Alan Shriguelgoyles.com is where you can find show dates and links to the album and links to my podcast and links to all my social stuff. But yeah, listen to the new episode of Finding My Audience with Chris Crofton, buy my album, ran through. Keep supporting the Daily zeitgeist. And you know what? Also, just keep going.

Hey, all right. Just keep on going. Just keep going. Just one foot in front of the other. You always say the most random stuff, Alan. I'm going to soy random. I'm not chopped, am I? What chopped?

I feel like this is the first time that we've had you on, that we haven't commented on how great your hair is. So I do just want to slide that in real quick at the end. Thank you. Some of the best hair in the business. Do you have any videos of you riding in a convertible? I actually do have a video of myself in a convertible. On Adult Swim, you can watch the last open.

at the end of the world. Hell yeah. Is it in slow motion? This guy got everything. It was during the pandemic. They did a comedy open mic for adults when Megan Kister did it. And it was you did it from your car because it was the pandemic. So I rented a convertible to do it.

Hell yeah. Perfect. I think I wore the drive jacket too. You took a year off the life of the sound person on that special, I have to assume. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Is there a work of media that you've been in?

doing. Oh, yeah, I saw this tweet. You know, this was yesterday, so I know it's weird, but the timing of the episode, but this says, t'was the night before, this is September 10th, twas the night before. This is from at Jason Mustian, and it's just a picture of a plate of cookies and a picture of George W. Bush. Plus the night before. Yes. Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work of media? You've been enjoying. Oh, man. Find me everywhere. at Miles of

Gray. Find me on 420-day fiancé talking about 90-day fiance with Sophia Alexandra. Let's see. Is there a thing, a work of media that I enjoyed? Not really. I think I was

kind of avoiding the media, to be honest. Is there a work of media you've enjoyed avoiding? Yes. All social media. Oh, social media. Yes, yes, yes. Yes, yes. I will avoid social media. Just in one thing, Josh Furlinger at jafra.b.isky.com social posted.

I guess the main thing I'm learning this week is that lots of elite media people knew Charlie Kirk personally and didn't know any Minnesota state legislators. Seems to be the case. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien on Blue Sky, Jack O'B, the number one. I liked this. I think I've shared this before, but this is Kurt Vonnegut on buying an envelope. This is, Rosalind Margulies responded with this quote to a post from ZEC, which said, order your groceries, saves an extra one to two hours a week, compounded. That's 550 to 100 hours a year.

A whole week worth of work you gain. I promise that that time is more important than the $10 delivery fee that was from Zek. And then Rosalind Marguerlees tweeted this quote from Kirtvon to get on buying. an envelope. Oh, she says, well, you're not a poor man, you know. Why don't you go online and buy a hundred envelopes and put them in the closet? And so I pretend not to hear her and go out to get an envelope because I'm going to have a hell of a good time in the process of buying one envelope. I meet a lot of people and see some great-looking babies and a fire engine goes by and I give them the thumbs up and I'll ask a woman what kind of dog that is. And I don't know, the moral of the

story is we're here on earth to fart around and of course the computers will do us out of that and what the computer people don't realize or they don't care is we're dancing animals you know we love to move around and it's like we're not supposed to dance anymore so preach kurt uh vonnegut i guess pretty good uh you can find us on twitter and blue sky at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram you can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it and there at the bottom of the description you will find the footnotes which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode we also link off to a song that we think you might

enjoy miles is there a song that you think that people might enjoy yeah oddly enough I was just watching the latest Tame Impala video for the track loser that's gonna be on the album Deadbeat and what's the guy Joe Kearney the guy from stranger things yeah yeah yeah here he's in it it it's It's nice. It's like, it's like so East L.A. It's like,

that whole setting is like such east side, Los Angeles, uh, just on this one little like corner market. But I'm also a big Kevin Parker fan. Uh, and I'm really looking forward to this album.

So, you know, we'll keep teasing these songs out and drips and drabs, but this is a loser by Tame Impala. Yeah. Shout out to music videos, by the way.

Paul Thomas Anderson was like talking to, about his new movie, which he shot in like some old school form of like film that hadn't been used in a long time. I think like panorama vision or some shit. Panavision? Panavision. And he was like, yeah, I like made a music

video a couple years ago and like used it and it was like fun as hell. So, you know, like people, people are doing cool stuff in music video still. It's just like nobody has watched them in years, I feel anyways, we will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zikeyes

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