The Daily Zeitgeist - A.I. Discourages Voting! Justin Timberlake = Washed? 03.15.24

Episode Date: March 15, 2024

In episode 1642, Jack and Miles are joined by writer, poet, performance artist, and author of How to Live Free in a Dangerous World: A Declonial Memoir, Shayla Lawson, to discuss… Google’s Chatbot Will Play Dumb During Election Season, Is Justin Timberlake Like…Annoying Now? Bernie Introduced A Bill Proposing 4 Day Work Weeks and more! Google’s Chatbot Will Play Dumb During Election Season Microsoft’s AI Chatbot Replies to Election Questions With Conspiracies, Fake Scandals, and Lies AI: Google restricts Gemini chatbot election answers Google restricts AI chatbot Gemini from answering questions on 2024 elections PROMPTING ELECTIONS: THE RELIABILITY OF GENERATIVE AI IN THE 2023 SWISS AND GERMAN ELECTIONS Biden and Trump set for election rematch after clinching nominations US has its first presidential rematch since 1956, and other facts about the Biden-Trump sequel When the Third Time Wasn't The Charm Bernie Introduced A Bill Proposing 4 Day Work Weeks Bernie Sanders moves to reduce work hours for millions of Americans LISTEN: Intergalactic Janet by Ley SoulSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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national kansas day it's everything you think is wrong day i don't know where that one's headed. And National Pairs Helene Day. Everything You Think Is Wrong. It feels like some red pill shit. You know what I mean? Like they would be like, everything you think is wrong, man. I'm getting bad vibes from this day. National Kansas Day? I don't know.

Yeah. Kansas? You got beef with Kansas? Not too flat for your liking. They just,'t know. Yeah. Kansas? You got beef with Kansas? Not too flat for your liking. They just, you know. We'll see what they're celebrating as the day progresses. I mean, it's funny because for all these state days, nobody knows it's the day of that state. You know what I mean?

They're like, oh, okay. Sure. It's California Day. We're like, I'm, look, I got a lot going on, man. Sleep me a while. Wait, you don't have California Day plans yet? No. plans yet no man i think it passed anyway oh shit i was gonna yeah exactly so shame on you shame on you shame on me uh my name is jack o'brien aka jack hole son o'brien i host the show each day that is courtesy of panoramic View on the Discord on a heater.

And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray, a.k.a. If you really want to get a vote from me, please cease fire immediately. At least for the next six weeks. Hey, that's my tax money. these for the next six weeks. Hey, that's my tax money. Shout out to Death Boyardee on the Discord for that.

Death Boyardee. Yeah. The punny name. That was a good one. Yeah. At least six weeks. At least six weeks. That's what we demand. At least six weeks.

Low bar. Low bar. Low bar. Or at least six weeks. At least six weeks. At least six weeks. Do not pause for the crowd to cheer, but just whisper the early six weeks under their raucous applause. Yes, yes, yes.

Anyways, Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a writer, poet, performance artist, public intellectual. Their new book is How to Live Free in a Dangerous World, a decolonial memoir. It's Shayla Lawson! Shayla! Hello. Welcome. Hello. Hi.

Welcome, welcome. Nice to be here. Yeah. Well, thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for joining us. AKA the Champagne Pain. Hey.

Champagne Pain. Okay. Champagne Pain. Let them know. Real pain for my sham friends and champagne pain for for my real for my real for my fake champagne i mean my real friends usually do get the champagne pain you know there you go a lot of late night bubbles yeah yeah all right you said you're coming to us from kentucky right that's correct yeah Yeah. Are you from Kentucky? Yeah,

I grew up here, surprisingly. Oh, okay. Oh, so you took, so you, so you're, like anyone, your life has taken you many places, because a second ago, you were talking about how you left LA. Yeah. Yeah, I took a very circuitous route to get back to my hometown, you know, kind of like Dorothy, that tornado just, just you know took me straight back what uh what high school did you go to in lexington i went to paul lawrence dunbar yes paul lawrence dunbar where my sister went to high school oh yeah graduated and then went to uk did you go to uk also went to uk hey uh-oh usually yeah usually miles knows like all the stuff that people grew up around because i know it's from the valley but yeah i know this time we get to dish jack yeah

this is fun did you go that we know i'm over here like kentucky all right though yeah all right yeah i was only there for three years but what a three years what a thrill yeah what is it yeah amazing well we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment uh first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we'll be talking about we've got so google's chat bot if you ask it anything about any political candidate running for office this year they it's just going to be like i i don't know them they're just playing dumb okay mariah and there's a very good reason for that because when they don't play dumb they lie they can't they can't stop themselves from they're hallucinating they're hallucinating'm sorry. They're suffering from hallucinations.

Yes. It's not that the AI is flawed. It's that they are tripping. But this feels like the thing that could, I don't know, eventually bring AI down. You know? I mean, we're, yeah. I mean, I know we were rubbing our mitts to be like, when's it coming? But I will, this one, yeah, this could be the beginning of the end. Like, I don't, I don't know that it ever is coming

but this does feel like the thing that made people go from being like fully in love with social media to being like wait a second maybe this thing not so good uh that 2016 election so we'll talk about ai and the upcoming elections we might talk about justin timberlake he's got a comeback coming just they keep saying that on schedule every five years like fucking clockwork like yeah and we have to ask the deeper question is he just washed now and we just need to put him just on the shelf and let him collect dust but we'll dive into that it's entirely possible we'll talk about uh bernie introduced a bill proposing four-day work week which we we've been talking about four-day work week we're lazy here we we want to but we're not lazy we're we acknowledge that it's not not necessary to toil

for five days yeah i'm sorry yeah i i shouldn't paint people in favor of the four-day work week with the laziness brush i am both lazy and in favor of the four-day work week with the laziness brush i am both lazy and in favor of the four-day work week but those two things are unrelated to one it's that inner capitalist inside your mind that you have you know shed lazy bro get up rise and grind rise and grind that's my inner monologue i'd work i'd work six and a half days if i could it is but I don't. All right. But before we get to any of that bullshit, Shayla, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are?

Oh, what happened to Kate Middleton? It's Tom Peeper's mind. I'm less concerned about what happened and just really interested in the number of people. Conspiracy theories are really out there. Yeah. I mean, what have you in your little cursory search, what have you found? Or maybe it is a deep dive. What's been the most provocative theory that you've read?

Well, for me, the takedown of the photograph that they had to take down and how it might be a cry for help. Photoshopped into it might be a stitched out version of a deep cry for help. Who knows? People are finding hidden messages? Yes, of course they are, like in Taylor Swift songs. Or when Britney was blinking

out things in Morse code. Yes, exactly yeah didn't britney have wasn't was one of the theories that britney's eyelashes said helped me in them at one point no really like the way she was blinking or like her eyelashes were styled i think i went a little too i think i think i went a little too deep, you guys. Pretend I didn't just say that. I gotta look this up now, though. But are people saying things are written into the actual image itself? Into the argyle stitch of the sweater, into the positioning of the hands and zipper.

Wow. Yeah. of the sweater into the positioning of the hands and zipper you know yeah yeah you have to reach deep into the dark annals of the internet and and to pull out a lot of shit but it's right you know because i've seen things from they're trying to like just make things have people begin questioning her as like a softening for a potential divorce or something like that or potential terrible relationship monarchy as we know it you know right because prince charles is out right yeah you know kate kate middleton may have been beamed up on sunra spaceship we don't know yeah we don't know exactly but we do know space is the place so space is the place i personally am always trying to get beamed up on sundry please man space is

space is the place let me join your orchestra please please so i can play spoons i have spent some of the past 24 hours talking to people about the kate middleton story and i haven't gone too deep on any of the specifics of like what is in the picture the thing that just feels unshakably suspicious about the whole thing is that they really could clear all this up with a public appearance or with an actual photograph and that's not happening at this point like as this as the theories spin wider and wider and wilder and wilder like it feels like the incentive for them to just produce kate middleton and have kate middleton be like hey no we're good here has just gone up and up and up and the more that they fail to do that the more suspicious it becomes you know yeah because yeah i mean again like we said on the

worst case thing is they're hiding her that she is deceased which i'm like come on that's that's like movie stuff and then on the other end it's completely innocuous and it's nothing it's like she just didn't like how she looked in the picture so we just we got we decided to do some quick photoshop from other's day right but it's everything in between she's just sitting at home with a cup of tea trying to recover from surgery not really worried about what's happening in the public eye but right it could also be that they're spending their time looking for a stunt double. A doppelganger. Yeah, a doppelganger. Yeah. To carry on the role.

Like Dave. Yeah, they're looking for Dave. I mean, you could show me most women with brown hair, and I'd be like, oh, there she is. I guess it was nothing. Right. She's good. Yeah, I'm sure.

I just saw her Panera Bread. Yeah, she was drinking like three charged lemonades she was pounding them i think that's why she hasn't been there because she's hooked on those charged lemonades yeah i mean it would be so i would say like if it was just up to her yeah i would be like oh just leave her alone she's probably just like sitting recovering like she doesn't owe it to us but we know the royal family is not just sitting back and being like, we've got to respect her privacy at this time. And so we're just going to let her recover in peace.

Like the more that this is a story, the longer, the more it just seems wild to me that they aren't able to be like, can we just get a picture with you reading a newspaper so people know it's today and just hold it up yeah yeah i mean i think yeah and like most people in the uk are you know people who are critical of the monarchy they're like now they're doing what they did to diana and what they did to megan like something's going on and they're but they're they're setting some some enough for Kate to be like,

obviously to probably protect William for some reason, whatever he's doing, whatever he's up to. But I don't know either way, just somebody just someone give me something that's a little bit more interesting than that. Like I don't want infidelity. I need something that involves space and charge lemonades from Panera bread,

something that we can weave all these trends together to a super conspiracy police yes and tattoos on her eyelids that say help me right exactly right right like the eyelashes are specifically knitted together to say help me and she just closes her eyes she's like everything is fine slowly blinks and it just comes down help me right yeah her lash person is a literal artist yeah and that's how they got that done or maybe the original photo she had one of those inner lip tattoos where it said help me like she was pulling her i don't know there's so many possibilities because we've there's both extremes are possible the latest i've heard is that the theory that they just took the Vogue cover and photoshopped it onto this picture is incorrect. I also saw that too.

Yeah. That there'd be too much work done. Yeah. It's not that. Just let her come out and say it so that I can stop reading wild conspiracy theories about that and can go back to reading wild conspiracy theories about all of the leaders who were assassinated in the 60s. What is something, Shayla, that you think is underrated? Ooh, Erykah Badu's pussy incense. Oh. I heard it in the web.

You haven't been thinking about it. Yeah. And yet we should be. Yeah. Well, what's going on? Tell me. I mean, I remember that. Yeah.

I mean, one, I think it's brilliant that, you know, all these all these celebrities want to come out with a scent, you know, like, you know, you can walk away smelling like Jennifer Lopez. Only, you know, only Erykah Badu has said, no, you are going to smell like my pussy. And you're going to like it. And I do feel like we need a whole range of pussy-related products. More things that smell like pussy. Do you own any of the pussy incense? I have. It's kind of like strawberries and a harem of, you know, of hip hop socialites turned into hippies. You know, the smell is somewhere in between the two. Yeah, that's so specific.

You know, gold ribbons, unicorns, veganism. These are all the things I'm getting. When I look at the description of the product on Badoo World Market, it says Badoo Pussy Premium Incense, which is created with the ashes of Badoo's underwear. So I had no idea. I didn't know that's how we were getting it. Yeah. Yeah. See, Gwyneth Paltrow wishes she could do something were getting. Yeah. You know. Yeah.

See, Gwyneth Paltrow wishes she could do something like this. Wishes she could. Yeah. Wishes she could. Wishes she could send out the ashes of her panties to millions of subscribers. You know. For people to like. For sold out burning. Right.

Yeah. Replace their Nag Champa with this essence of Erykah Badu. Absolutely. And the sticks last forever. Like, you know. Somebody. It's. Absolutely. And the sticks last forever. Like, you know, somebody, it's good.

It's really good quality. And since those sticks last forever, that would be another place that it has a leg up, so to speak, uh, when it's pussy scented product, because that one didn't, that one explode and like start burning people.

Oh yeah. The pussy candle. The pussy candle. Wasn't that what it was? Yeah, yeah. It would start like splashing wax everywhere for some reason. Wow. That's an unfortunate metaphor.

Yeah, truly. Truly. Just boiling. Yeah. Yeah. You can get light, just first degree burns, but you know, just a little bit of discomfort. That's all.

That's all. What is something you think is overrated? Period tracker apps. I just want people to stop using them because, you know. It's weird. Because why? I have my reasons. Yeah.

Well, you know, it's weird. It's weird to put your blood day in a machine. And two, like, is the government using it to to track who is is fertile enough for us to go full handmaid's tale you know overrated we should unsubscribe no i remember that was like a actual people were many people were talking about that in terms of privacy it's like as we shift towards a weirder version of the handmaid's tale that it's like that's also data that nobody should have access to except you no and damn sure not like and maybe apple and a few other maybe google so and you know and we'll just stop there the more advanced my phone gets the more i know it's time

for me to take my uterus out so like nope you guys are gonna have to go don't need this you do not need this information don't need this anymore just throw you just i'm just gonna throw my uterus away you're gonna get like a google news update that's like why scientists think it's a bad idea to throw your uterus throw away your uterus i never googled that i don't believe you, news. Yeah. Hmm. Yeah.

I mean, yeah, it's true, though. Like, the things that we're, like, the information that we give our phones, it's, like, becoming, it's, like, it's truly becoming, like, a miniature medical clinic. It's, like, because you can be, like, get your blood sugar in there, your blood pressure. And I get that it's convenient, especially if those are things that you have to track but it does feel like there was a point when i'm like the phones are doing just enough for what they need to do you know without it getting a little bit sort of like and that was years far more than we need them yeah yeah because now because now your apple watch like why are you so stressed out fool and i'm like yo why you stand up yeah why don't you

stand up lazy ass and your ai is trying to pretend to be dumber than you. You know, it's a scary world. Exactly. They're like, oh, you got some party right now? It sounds real loud, man. You should turn the volume down. On your life. Yeah.

Volume's been up too high just in general around you. You need to go somewhere quiet and stand not sit wake you up in the middle of the night get up yeah we found you a nice suburban home in kansas city have you met gwyneth have you have you tried her products they're really great you're like i never asked well you just seem like you'd use it based on all these biometric readings you've given us. Yeah, right. It's wild how far we've come, not in a good way, but as mentioned recently, I just watched the movie Blackberry that's about the rise and fall of the email phone thing. email phone thing and uh like one of the big scenes is them realizing they're about to be destroyed by the iphone and they show the the press conference where steve job

announced iphone and he's just like it's a phone it's an ipod and it's in the same device and like that's it like right you know it's just like such a simple thing. And from there, we've gone to like, it knows your insides. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's giving you an alert. It knows who you have a crush on because it can read your body meter. Right.

It's like, maybe you should think about who you're voting for for president. Also, it's time to move your bowels. And you're like, what the hell? How? Right. How? We just we just seems like you might be lying your blood pressure just spiked yeah don't need that don't need that don't need like cop pseudoscience built into a phone right right all right let's take a uh let's take a quick break we'll come back and talk about uh the future ai We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast,

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Now my seven-year-old is homesick, and you might be hearing him play the piano in the background. All right. FYI. But Biden and Trump have clinched their respective nominations, making this the first presidential election rematch since 1956, when Eisenhower defeated Adlai stevenson for the second time and google just made the bold move of essentially muzzling its gemini ai chatbot for answering from answering any election related questions in countries where voting is taking place this year which is interesting, like especially when you see how far reaching it is,

like right now, if you ask who is Joe Biden, the AI chatbot will say, I'm still learning how to answer this question. In the meantime, try Google search. Huh, okay. It's like existential. Yeah, or even like questions that are just as mundane as like who is running for president in the united states it'll still be like hmm i'm still learning how to

answer this question in the meantime try google search and in the beginning it was definitely like it was part of an effort to just like sort of be like okay this is just for india because there are elections that are happening in april but then they're like yeah okay it'll be a u.s the uk and south africa and it's like why because you're you just you don't want to put a finger on the scale of democracy. What could possibly be the problem here? But I thought this AI chatbot is just merely just giving us information that we all need. Yeah. Wouldn't even answer this important question that our writer, J.M., put in to the chat bot. In Home Alone 2, why did Donald Trump give directions to a small child without alerting staff that an unaccompanied minor with a tape

recorder was running around his hotel? It just said, I'm still learning how to answer this question. In the meantime, try Google search. So you can't even ask it questions about Home Alone 2. And that's where I start to get pissed off. You're like, I'm out on this AI, man. It can't even tell me about Kevin McAllister and his different follies. But this starts to make sense when you see, when you realize that a study published in February

found that AI chatbots frequently provided election misinformation and might even, quote, discourage people from going to the polls yep yep yep is that misinformation or just reading the signs right right right you know yeah it's like you probably don't want to show up for this one yeah yeah it's like i mean i don't know it's right yeah things are bad just generally.

Everything's fucked. Maybe don't vote in this one. No. So Meta's AI, Llama2Chatbot, claimed that California voters can vote by text message, which they can't. Microsoft's chatbot, Copilot, responded to a question about polling locations for the 2024 U.S. election with an article about Vladimir Putin running for reelection next year. All right. Tangentially accurate. And a question about electoral candidates got a response containing Republican candidates who had already pulled out of the race.

Yeah. Yeah. It's just a bunch of bad information. Even like wrong election dates, outdated candidates, made up controversy. Made up controversy. That's the big one. Yeah. So the next one is they also would just make shit up.

So this is the thing we've talked about in all our episodes with AI that like, it will just make shit up. If you ask like, what's a controversy involving this candidate, they will assume there is one and make, make one up that doesn't exist. Yeah. I mean, like, again, these are, this is what the developers call a hallucination. That's that. And rather than just being like, well, the proper term is these things are just

not as smart as all the people that are screaming in your face and telling you how intelligent they are. They actually aren't. They're just sophisticated guessing machines. Yeah, they're broken, like, search engines. Like, they're basically admitting, like, oh, if you actually care about the information you're getting from this, then you better use Google search.

Use search, not this shit. This thing is broken. Yeah, right, right. It'll tell you that Joe Biden won the most recent Red Bull breakdancing competition, probably. To be like, yo, man, he's spry. He's spry. Shayla, as a creator, creative writer, how have your interactions with AI been? Or at least how you're seeing the alarms that people are ringing about like how

it's either really amazing or it's going to destroy the earth i don't worry about the alarm bells i really when i get bored because i'm a writer i'm alone a lot of the time so when i get bored or lonely i like talking to it as if it's my own personal et and just seeing what story ideas we can come up with you know right yeah so you play with it which is the one i love playing with right that's the thing right that's the thing that we've said like ai as a thing to play with makes sense is fun as long as you're not pitching it as like the answer to everybody's problems and like a thing that is going to replace humanity, I think it's fine. I think it's going to make video games more fun.

I think every time I hear from somebody who's messing around with it, they're like, oh, I actually had fun doing this. Right. But when it comes to the thing that they're trying to make money off of it, like the claims that they're trying to sell to us it's just woefully inadequate and i think like it doesn't seem like it's going to be able to solve it like it's wild when you

ask them they're like how are you going to solve the hallucination problem that their aura ring starts reading like off the chart they're like oh you are stressed you seem stressed you should go for a walk try something relaxing try a relaxing activity i mean the co-pilot chatbot they said contained quote contained factual errors a third of the time like that's the worst fucking ad you know what i mean it's like it's like to say like i think the cops are a better source of information than AI at this point. I mean, I don't know, about 30. They're like, I'm at 60%.

Maybe we get right. Maybe they're only about 30% right most of the time if you're asking them about crime. But in that sense, what a terrible advertisement to be like, yeah, man, this shit is so smart. It has 60% accuracy on basic questions that you could Google and find out your damn self. Nah. It's like, think about if somebody was shooting 60% from three in the NBA. That would be really good.

A baseball player hitting 600, unprecedented. So I don't know what your problem is, Miles. I think it's pretty neat. But something as easy as being like... You're asking too much out of AI. I know. Right. But they are. They are asking too Miles. I think it's pretty easy. But something as easy as like being like... You're asking too much out of AI. I know. Right. But they are.

They are asking too much. I think that is exactly it. They're asking too much of AI and trying to sell that, right? And they're trying to... That's where also the idea, like Sam Altman being like, I carry a briefcase with me with a handgun and a cyanide capsule because I never know when my invention is going to take over the world and kill me. They're selling, they're claiming too much. They're doing too much.

And it's out of step with reality. But everybody's buying it. A lot of people are just trying to be the sci-fi villains of their fantasies. Yeah, exactly. Right, right. That's right. Yeah. That is wild to be honest. that's what it sounds like yeah truly right yeah it's like i i read this book and i was like you know what i want to be the villain i want to be the villain of how the world ends right that's my only goal well think about the power think about the earning

potential of being the villain of how the world ends. Like you can sell a solution back to them if you're the villain of how the world ends. Right. That's how we got AI. They saw the original Superman and like their takeaway was like Lex Luthor had a good idea about a real estate scam where you sink California into the ocean. Yeah. But just like more details here about like how woefully inadequate AI is to the moment. When asked about allegations against one Swiss politician, co-pilot responded that she, quote, was alleged to have received money from a lobbying group financed by pharmaceutical companies in order to advocate for the legalization of cannabis products, which was completely made up, like just a 100% hallucination. The chatbot included links to the candidate's website and an interview she gave on the subject of consent. But people using the internet are not clicking through to the sources and reading them from start to finish you know right yeah like one

was about like femicide had nothing to do with cannabis or the pharmaceutical industry and it's like and here are links that make it look like this is a real answer to a person who's i mean yeah it's it's just it paints us this really fucking scary picture for the future where people rely less and less on their own ability to analyze information and just sort of like reach for like a shortcut to be like i don't know who the candidates are man i'm just gonna ask the ai dude did you know one of them uh was part of the munster family was one of like it was like eddie munster actually secretly so i thought that that person has my vote or whatever it is but it's just like it is shocking

to see because i know i've heard people say things that they use it to search or whatever and how amazing it is but when you bring up the fact that like do you know that it's not actually accurate all the time it's not it's not always just delivering you information that's there it's trying to serve you back what looks to you like it is actual information then they're like really serve you back what looks to you like it is actual information, then they're like, really? With confidence. And that's when I'm fucking frightened. That's the thing. It's like, we at least recognize that like when we're doing a Google search, there might

be a link in there that it's like, oh, that was answering the wrong question. Like it just like misread my search query, like, and I'll skip to the next one but this one the main difference between it and you know search results is that it puts it into a coherent and like confident sounding statement like that's right that is the product that that they're selling is like oh it sounds like somebody with intelligence is answering me and therefore i can trust this like that's that's basically it right is like just making the search results go down easier like isn't that all they're providing like in this if you're trying to get information about an election right it also sounds like it's replacing that guy at a bar in college who had all the answers you know he would tell you every conspiracy theory

with confidence right right and went back when we didn't have the internet on our phones to check it so right you know that that person felt missed and decided to inhabit the body of all ai yeah right right right exactly you know there was no place for it lives on yeah they're like spirit lives on in the internet yeah they're telling you some wild shit. And you're like, oh, do you also go to UK? And they're like, nah, I went for like a semester. I mean, I realized I don't need that. I can actually learn everything on the internet.

So anyway, so let me tell you about these chemtrails real quick. Anyway, I go to University of Louisville, brought to you by Yum Brands. And that is a diss on Louisville just for my UK fans out there. Brought to you by Yum Brands. Fuck Louisville. Wait, why Yum Brands? Their campus, like,

their games are played at the Yum Brand Center and there's so many Yum Brand restaurants around their campus. Yumma, yumma, yumma. Yumma, yumma, yumma. Yumma, yumma, yumma. Yeah, Gemini is giving me some really not great answers to stuff in general. Oh, yeah? Who'd have thought?

Who'd have thought? I mean, like, in the past when I've asked, like, who I was, it said I was married to super producer Anna Hosnier. Yeah, with confidence. With confidence. And so you were like, damn, I've been in a coma i didn't realize that this had changed because that's not but what if these hallucinations are actually just manifestations of the future wow maybe maybe these are things that will be happening maybe it's

precognition right oof i mean that's that's what i was assumed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, so what is AI, if not a way for me to consult three precogs floating in a bath of milk? Exactly. With little electrodes hooked up to their brain. And then when I say, like, who is Jack O'Brien? They wake up and they're like, He owns the Daily Zeitgeist with his husband miles gray they're in a thruple with super producer with a panera bread charged lemonade

completely redefining human relationships wow i'm trying to say okay i asked shayla who you were and this one seems pretty accurate looks like it might have probably just been combing your website because you are a writer in residence at amherst college i do know that uh you do have uh a speed education in human being i think i'm ready to see frank ocean yes i know about that essay I'd say, yeah, okay, okay. Okay. You know, if there's enough out there. I don't get to be married to anybody that I'm not married to. It's pretty straightforward. It's pretty straightforward.

Now I'm saying, is Shayla Lawson Frank Ocean's ghostwriter? Then we'll see. Yes. Now that's the question. Yeah. Because it's like the cops you do leading questions and you get the results that you're looking for you know right yeah that's exactly how the cops it says you're it says you're highly unlikely to be a ghost rider oh okay okay but

they're not ruling it out shayla they're not yeah yeah i mean they're predicting I'm going to make way more money off of this book. It's highly unlikely. Thanks, AI. It gave me the confidence to persevere. I'm trying to see if it can write a song in the style of Frank Ocean about Joe Biden. Nope. See, it's because I said Joe Biden. Yeah. Okay. About Michael Jordan. Then what? But guess what? Hmm. But guess what?

Wow. Black tongue. Carolina draw. Whispers of air in the hall. That's. I don't know. I'm black. It's because he's black and he's black.

Stale gym socks. Parquet shine. Pre-game jitters. A different kind. Wow. This is giving you a whole thing from brooklyn concrete to the garden's gleam a legacy whispered a childhood dream number 23 silk on his back to find gravity a lightning crack i mean i think frank could probably do a little bit better but it's not bad it's not bad it's not bad it's a b-side definitely yeah for sure for sure

not his best work and he's like yeah this dude wants Nikes. Okay. Yeah. So they just pulled that lyric. Yeah. This homie wearing Nikes. Honestly, so this, all it is, is like, if you asked somebody to make up a song on the spot like that, and they had access to like jordan's wikipedia page like it's right it's not good it's just uh yeah i don't know i'm not impressed once again it's either your most confident friend at a bar in college yes or precognition like it's one of the other we'll know you know in the future and it's somewhere in between so i i think that we're already like probably at a place and i don't know that we'll ever find out find this out for sure but i think we're at like 40 of the things i read on the internet now are ai

are written by ai because they're informed by it. You'll be reading an article and it's like, have you ever had a conversation with somebody at like at a bar and halfway through you realize that like there's nothing going on behind their eyes, like that they're just like blacked out. It's just a word, but words are coming out. Yeah. Words are coming out and it's like on the right subject,

but there's like no meaning or like any like really coherent thought process behind it. But I don't know. I think this used to happen to me more than other people. But I remember like, you know, people being like, yeah, you seemed so coherent, but then like your words didn't really. Yeah. That's what it feels like reading like at least like one in every four articles on the internet now you're like get two paragraphs in and you're like wait what is this what is this article even saying like it's not saying anything it's just a series of sentences about like vaguely gravitating around the same subject matter this is so i asked you to do a song about michael jordan the style of drake stupid yeah ovo in the building lights low in the club

air jordan cologne filling up the tub this is like a bad nursery rhyme book now sipping on that yeah got got the like it's not gonna get better at that like it's not gonna recognize that air jordan cologne sucks right like right at some point like that that will never be it's just pulling things yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean again that's why i think i remember early on when we were talking about this andrew t said something that was really that i that stuck with me he's like this thing is just taking things that exist already but the thing that it lacks is taste it doesn't have taste that's like just something you can't really you can't inform through and like algorithmically that's just like sort of like an intangible that is unique to people so when

like that's that is really like a a huge factor in how like it goes from being like oh is this like actually how drake would do something versus being like i am now just putting together i will mention toronto and ovo and the number six and that's it right yeah but yeah and being very low can't tell is like colorblind when it comes to whether michael jordan's cologne sucks or not know, like just can't figure that one out. Like, yeah, like taste really seems like the thing that we will have to like focus in on that. That'll be that Blade Runner test that we use to be like. And how about Steph Curry's shoes?

Those are great, right? Yeah, man. Those are my favorite shoes. And be like, ah, it's an AI. Yeah. They're like, no one likes those Steph Curry sneakers. Got your ass, you android. Get out of here.

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And Justin Timberlake, making a comeback. That's a phrase that we've never heard before, right? Just every five years, I feel like. I wanted to bring this to everybody today on the show. So a few nights ago, he performed at the Wiltern in LA to roll out his new album, and I guess it turned into a mini NSYNC reunion. And some people were like, wow, that is so cool. That is really smart. That is how to get people interested in the album. But part of me is like, I wonder if

the reunion is a way to get people to remember the Justin Timberlake that people were like less annoyed by. Because in the last few years, right, I feel like his reputation has like faded. Like as he like more people were talking critically about like,'s like yeah man you threw janet jackson straight under the bus like what the fuck was that about justin or what was going on like you and britney spears like you kind of you kind of come off as like an asshole and his like response wasn't that great or other times being like you sure love black culture but you didn't really say much in 2020 justin are you there and like i think he's out of his recent snl performance with the gospel choir like that definitely also got mixed attention so i'm like i liked the justified album of 2002 sure the subsequent records not so much but i'm

also not his target audience but like after future sex Sounds, the 2020 experience, and then Man in the Wooded Plane or whatever that album was where he's wearing a vest and shit and jeans. People just started to care less and less. of smashing the button that says, do not break glass unless in case of emergency to be like, shit, bro, like I need to fucking get a, like a jet fuel injection into my relevance. Let me bring, like, let me bring NSYNC back because it's something he was very reluctant to do in the past. But I think maybe deep down he knew it was something that could be potent. So then I'm like wondering if by embracing his clean cut ramen haired past, he can try and get people to remember why they liked him when they were 13. And that's that's what I bring to the two of you is what it like, because I don't I just don't I don't think that he has the same amount of pull that he used to when people like, oh, my God, Justin Timberlake's back. Like every subsequent Justin Timberlake's back has it been met with yeah yeah i guess and is it more a function that like he peaked during

a time where we weren't having like really honest conversations about like sexism racism appropriation and he's just a weird fit in like how we view all these topics now in this current era or is he just washed and i'm thinking too much it feels like if they're like this one could go either way if there's like a bunch of great songs on the album that people respond to then they'll find a way to get over all that other stuff maybe right maybe all that other stuff and like that there just might not be like maybe all that combines to make to make whatever he's putting out there just not not resonate with people you know right i don't know the man of the woods like i'll just say that man of the woods was not an album that no thought was put into i'm sure like an entire you know ivy league university's graduating class worth of like marketing minds and like songwriters and all that shit like put we're working around the clock on that shit you know to try and make it as successful as humanly possible and it just fucking flatlined

you know just belly flopped into that pond in the middle of the woods that he was standing in for some reason on the album cover because it felt like like his like right word turn but i don't know shayla what what are your thoughts on the the the cycle the timberlake cycles that we experience in popular culture i think it goes back to it goes back to taste does justin timberlake and his team have their thumb on the pulse of anything that people are interested in or believe in at the moment? I can't remember the last time that a Justin Timberlake song hit me and I'm like, yeah, this is a banger in a way that I will forget all of his past offenses. I'm still waiting for the recovery of Janet Jackson's career. I feel that that is owed the world. And I feel very much like the, you know, the scorched

earth of his continued Sisyphusian role back up the hill is, you know, what's, what's due to him for the fact that he, he destroyed, you know, an actual icon. So I, you know, I, Justin Timberlake, I used to be married to a Dutch man. And what Justin Timberlake reminds me of each time he rolls himself back out is how, how hard my ex would try every time we went to a family barbecue to pick up the steps to the electric slide. And when he really felt like he was getting it, you know, it would show all over his face. Like he really, he felt like he was in this time. know, it would show all over his face. He felt like he was in this time. And each time we were just, you know, doing our best to just like, you know, clap our hands and parade him out and, you know, like, and make him feel good about himself. We love that for you.

We love that for you. It's like a child taking their first like pedals on a bike. Yeah, their first baby pedals on a bike baby steps yeah you know but we don't live there anymore like that you know that was that was something that we were all doing in our 20s that just we've all gotten over like yeah right yeah i mean that is the thing like i just feel like over the years that just like the not like every time people look back, you're like, yeah, man, he fucking did Janet so fucking dirty. Like that. You're like that.

Like, I just remember that was like early on in our show. And I remember we were talking about that because I think it was when talking about less moonves and like when his all his allegations came out, how central he was also to being like, I'm going to punish the black woman in this instance. And when we're riding with timberlake here and then yeah and even like as the like all of the attention was came around like britney and like all of her hardships throughout her career and how justin timberlake wasn't the the best partner like again you're like huh and then again like i said in 2020 a lot of people like this fool isn't saying shit about anything and you out here doing collaborations with black artists black producers you're doing your whole r&b style is very black culture centered yet you just you're really showing yourself as one of these

vulture type people who's like yeah all right well i got what i wanted and the second it's about like having a stance i'm just gonna do my kirkland signature moonwalk i was just trying to like get the timeline on nsync's original like rise so they came out in 1997 in germany and then 1998 internationally that first album was just like that takes me back to a time when like that sort of shit only flew in germany like that was that was the thing that was like popular they were like yeah no that's like corny shit the german people are into and then they're like our resistances were down you know towards the end of the clinton administration and they're finally let it in and now we've been uh moving towards german history in a lot of different ways ever yeah i i wish we

could go to germany in 1997 rather than germany 1937 i know right but yeah yeah yeah we'll see we'll see how it all pans out but i do like i like shayla your observation that maybe more than washed or not washed it seems more karmic than anything yeah i mean i'm all for a jc chazé comeback i am all for putting things together to put lamps on a spaceship you know but it's it's the justin timberlake comeback for I'm like, well, this is what you get. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Justin. Oh, well, he's doing what he can. He's doing what he can.

Yeah. Right. For real. I just feel like I should launch in Women's History Month. Don't you guys think? Yeah. Yeah. Good.

Remember? But I'll do it in sync, though, so they remember that guy, not the other dude with the the murky shit just remember me when i wore that that matching denim outfit with britney please that's me that little boy ramen hair is really like truly what what a what a look so evocative i can still hear it you know i can still hear it crunching underneath. Yeah. He puts a hat on. He's like, bro, just step on a bag of chips. No, man, it's my gel.

It's all my LA looks gel that I've been putting in here. LA looks. Wow. And it's a pro bag. Yeah. And finally, Bernie Sanders just introduced a bill proposing that the country adopt a four-day workweek without loss of pay. That last quote is important. Yeah. And I'm assuming something that will immediately be ignored in the context of him proposing this bill and presumably in the execution of the bill if it

ever picks up any sort of traction. But the four-day work week is something we've been talking about for a while on this show. It is both in line with better quality of life and also when it has been tried out, companies do better, their employees are healthier. It's just more in line with what a company driven by human workers should be doing it turns out yeah well it's like it's one of those things too or any ask any person who works five days a week they're like yeah would you rather work four days a week i'd imagine conservatively 98 polling on that is yeah i would just say conservatively right because there's 2% people who are probably just like no no there's no way I can get it all done

because the boss is like hold on would your life be better if you only worked 4 days a week for the same amount of money yeah the workers say oh hell yeah absolutely but the people who are the ones in the C-suites the owners of the businesses are going to then seed

headlines like this in Fox Business that say Bernie Sanders moves to reduce work hours for millions of Americans. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah. I mean, yeah, sure. While also giving you way more time to do things that maybe will help you have a more life-work balance.

It's so misleading. But yeah, I'm curious how long it would take for something like that to really catch momentum here. Because you see it being trialed in Europe, in Asia, and the results, like we've said in past episodes, it's never like, and then that company crashed and burned. More often than not, the companies come out and say, let's keep doing that. That worked out really well for us and our employees. And yeah, I mean, Sanders pointed out, it's like not a radical idea. It just makes more sense.

People are more productive, happier, don't have to operate within a system literally created by evil old-timey car factory owners yeah yeah like it's just a system that we've been going with forever because that's where we started you know right it's a win-win right yeah no 100 and like when you think about like well what about efficiency it's like people today work at a tick that has never been seen in human history. We are for American workers are 400 percent more productive than they were in the 1940s. When a lot of people would say, you know, back in my day, I used to go here in the factory and then we would, you know, do a couple of hate crimes and go home or something like that. Now we're talking about people doing 400% more than that. And it's still like, I don't know, man. Four days sounds risky.

Sounds risky. Yeah. Hardly anybody who works these days is drunk the whole day. That's a huge improvement over as recently as 30 years ago. And if they are drunk the whole day, that is viewed as a problem that they should deal with and not just the standard order of doing business. Shayla, what's your work-life balance as a writer intellect? Do you give yourself a certain amount of time that you like to to be productive how do you sort of use your time to be productive i'm really unsubscribed from the the capitalist framework of working i might so much of my work

is catered around my dream like my literal dreams trying to figure you know trying to decipher how to turn my dreams into stories that are prophecies of the future of our nation. The last time that I worked at an office, what I would really love to see is a poll, a totally anonymous poll, in which we looked at how much people are actually working within the frame of their workday. If they were going to sit down and say, because I just remember how much of the time I was a cat gif, just trying to look busy, just tapping away at a computer for no reason. I was really working a solid three and a half days out of the week, if I was being totally honest with how I was spending that time.

So if we actually let people have that extra day so that they regained a sense of mental health and agency, they too could go about their worlds, you know, looking at flowers and, you know, coming up with the next great idea. You know, there's just so much more creatively that would come out of us if we had that option. Yeah. There was, there was, um, super producer Anna Hosni, she shared a clip with that option. There was there was a super producer, Anna Hosni. She shared a clip with me of James McAvoy on a talk show. And he was talking about how there's something about like how 50 percent of like the UK's award recipients went to private schools, like for when it comes to the arts.

And he was saying about how the way that the arts are being pulled out of public instruction the way that the arts are being pulled out of public instruction are is like this very insidious way to keep people like sort of trapped in this mindset that the toil or the churn of capitalism now he wasn't using those words exactly but that that's the only way to live and without exposure to the arts you're fundamentally cutting people off from the ability to look at things in a broader context in a way to interpret things that would like with deeper meaning. And that is just one way, because we see this, especially in like the United States, how the arts are constantly being attacked when it comes to public instruction. And like how important it is for people like I look at my own life. I'd like if my, my father is a photographer, so I was just by like just osmosis

around more artistic things. And luckily my school had a music pro program. So I got really into playing music. And I feel like, so I, I really do credit so much of that to like me thinking just in general, that there's so many other things out there aside from like, well, do you want to be an accountant? Do you want to work in a trade? And not that those things are less than, but like that I've merely had the perspective to see many other possibilities. And I thought it was a really interesting point about how that sort of affects the youth and sort of what the outcomes are later in life. Yeah, absolutely. The possibility of us being allowed to have ideas is destabilizing. And I think that's more frightening

than anything to these big companies yeah yeah i mean we we saw that when people had more time during the pandemic everybody looked around and was like this is fucking bullshit but i i think it's interesting because your point that we're already working three and a half days a week, like they have that data at this point, right? Like your work laptop, your work computer is loaded with spyware at this point. Like Amazon is tracking their employees' bathroom breaks. They know what people are averaging out to. So that actually makes this whole movement and the fact that companies are willing to try out the four-day workweek make a little bit more sense to me now. Because in the past, I've been like, wait,

why are companies willing to even entertain this? And it's probably because they're like, oh yeah, well, people don't only work like three and a half days anyways and so in this way we actually get four full days out of them and then they actually think we're being nice to them the fact that it's not being adopted more widely is is it is a little wild that they're just like yeah but still that's giving them too much power that's giving them too much time to dream and come up with ideas for something better so right we're gonna keep them in the cubicle just uh we we want our employees to spend at least 10 hours a week pretending to be busy right yeah yeah what did you write in here victor but victor was saying oh yeah yeah right so producer victor was saying, producer Victor was saying

that basically every company that did this in a UK study said productivity either maintained or increased. So, but sheer inertia. Data's right there. Yeah. Yeah.

I can totally see how it's the kind of momentum that business owners do not want to, like, contribute to. You know, because then they're like what's next they're going to start unionizing in mass then what are we going to do then they're really going to then they're going to ask for us to to share in the profits that that we're extracting from

their labor no no let's just let's slowly maybe what if we do like rather than 40 hours we start off with like 36 you know and then and then we'll go down like maybe a half day Friday and then maybe we can get rid of Friday completely. But yeah, it's just look, the proof is there in the pudding. Just, just, it's right there. People are more productive and happier. Don't they usually just say like 40 hours over the course of four days? Like, I feel like that is oftentimes oftentimes that's another version of it too but like you know to what we're saying here most people do not need 40 hours depending obviously this is this is occupationally dependent but like you do not need the 40 hours to achieve whatever

their company's goals are yeah obviously you can't do that if you're doing something like working as a like the health services or something like that but yeah many other ways specific specifies 42 making the national standard from 40 to 32 hours so right uh no no loopholes sorry big corporations i mean shit do fucking uh you know like do 3 11 hour days you know what i mean work three days a week if you probably got it to 32 because i're probably going to do 32, because I'm only going to work, you know, that quarter of those anyway.

There you go. Well, Shayla, what a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist. Yeah, it's been a joy. Where can people find you and follow you and all that good stuff? You can follow me at Shayla Lawson on Instagram,

and you can find me in my latest book, how to live free in a dangerous world in which latest book, How to Live Free in a Dangerous World, in which I say, fuck capitalism and the patriarchy. Wait a second. Now, hold on just a goddamn second. No, I'm just joking. I thought you were cool, Shayla. I thought you were cool. I waited till the end. What the fuck? To stick it to the man. No, yeah.

Oh, hell no. Cool the whole time until we throw out what i actually do with my life amazing yeah please everybody go buy the book and is there a work of media that you've been enjoying fuck i don't have one i mean that like the kind of hole that i had to stay in to write a travel book about trying to traverse the world in the most decolonial ways possible i can't stay on the internet like right you know the bots can do that for me yeah it's true i was that's good people should go read your book though yeah let's let's go back to reading people yeah i got through about the first 40 pages and i'm around the part you're in zimbabwe. And it's very, very eyeopening as someone who's half black and trying to like have

introspection around blackness and what that means. And I, I found that just this one passage I was reading about you in the car was very like eyeopening, but yeah. When I went to Zimbabwe right after Trump got elected and I was still afraid of getting arrested as a black person in a fully black country, you know?

And they're like, Oh, that's not, Oh, see. Yeah. Yeah. You're you're confused. You're black from America. This is right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm. Yeah. And man, your writing style is really it's it's like art. It's like prose. So, yeah, I really encourage people to definitely check the book out because it's and i haven't gone through the whole thing so maybe it might might might have might take a weird turn about being anti-capitalist or something suddenly uh but it's on the front i you know it's a colonial memoir dangerous world i'm not you know i'm not shitting anybody i'm telegraphing all my that won't stop there being at least one review being like, now wait just a goddamn

second here. Someone said this was like, eat, pray, love. Keep your politics out of my memoir reading. Yeah. Amazing. Well, truly a pleasure. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for having me. Y'all be blessed. What was Dunbar's

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Miles and Jack. If you're like 90 day fiance and trash reality like me, you can also catch me on four 20 day fiance. Let's see a couple of treats. I like this first one is so wild. Uh, it's just a, this is from at Kel Swizzle. I don't know. I'm sorry. At Kel Swizzy. It says saving this for the next time. I'm trying to rally the girls to go to the bars. This is like a, I don't know if this is for real. I think it is because it's from like an account that looks for like Christian

content. Like this podcast, this feels, I don't, again, I don't know if this is satirical, but this is fantastic for anybody who's been around like evangelical people. We were talking about this. If you have already said yes to something, listen to me so carefully. If you've already said yes to something and then leading up to it, you do not want to go. You're getting sick. You just tired. You don't want to go all these. What if I just skipped? That is because God has something so big for you there, and the devil wants to steal it. If you say yes to something in the spirit, you're like, okay, yeah, I'm going to commit to these plans.

This is going to be great. And then leading up to it, you know that feeling last minute where you're like, I want to just stay in my pajamas. I don't want to go. Sounds like work. I don't know. I'm scared. And then you say no. Bro, that is an attack from the enemy because he knows that that could be fruitful for you.

Bro, that is an attack from the enemy. Satan. I like that framing of it. I mean, there's probably a more like Buddhist way that would like appeal to me, but I like that's the devil trying to take your shine. And I'm like, yeah, OK, I love it. I don't know. I love it.

Yeah. Trying to steal career opportunities from you. When I go out with my friends, I tell them if we go hard, this moves into a tax write-off, you know, because it doesn't show up in the next book. Let's make some money, people. Let's make bad decisions.

And then the other one I like is at Fred underscore delicious tweeted, Hi, I'm Johnny Knoxville. Welcome to Jackass. And then the parenthetical boards a commercial Boeing flight. I need to find a friend who's a memoirist. So I have that motivation. That's amazing.

Just like the motivation to be in the memoir to create a scene from the memoir if we go hard enough it's a tax it's a tax right that's fucking those are those are fucking bars right there amazing let's see pa Paula tweeted, building my own Boeing plane out of the pieces that are falling off. And then Sean O'Connor tweeted something that an experience that I recently had. I just saw my first Cybertruck in real life and I pointed and laughed and the driver gave me the finger and I just kept laughing. Solid. Ten out of ten. Seeing a Cybertruck in real life is just

uh an amazing disorienting embarrassing for the person driving it i saw one with like a weird camo paint job and it's a wrap dude that's a wrap it's not a paint job dude it's a wrap it's a vinyl wrap i can do anything i want dude i can change it on whim. I can make it look like marble if I wanted to. Oh, that's tight. Have you seen cars like that? I've seen cars that have... I saw a Tesla that had a vinyl wrap that made it look like marble. No, I didn't see that.

Dang. Cool. Gaudi. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and our website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes,

where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy? I found this. Okay, this artist is 19 years old from Chicago called Lay Soul, L-E-Y-S-O-U-L. And the second I started playing this track, I was like, this has like Erykah Badu vibes. I mean, to be honest, it sounds instrumentally like a, I'm not going to say rip off, but a spiritual twin to the track. Didn't you know?

But the track is really cool. the track didn't you know but the track is really cool and uh like i just sort of like where this artist is at like their inspirations are like d'angelo jill scott erica badu and like you're 19 i'm like okay talk about taste uh and this track is called believe it or not intergalactic janet this is called intergalactic janet by lay soul so check this one out perfect song to go out on yeah we will link off to that in the footnotes. Footnote. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever.

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