The Daily Zeitgeist - AI Dumb As Hell, If A Tucker Falls In The Woods… 07.13.23

Episode Date: July 13, 2023

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get your podcast presented by capital one founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to season 295 episode 3 of their daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Thursday, July 13th, 2023. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Oh, can't you see? Ron DeSantis, man. No one likes you even in the least.

He, he, he. What's that you say? Ron DeSantis, man. Your general vibe is off-putting and bleak a he he he a ron no no that is courtesy of pat on the discord just pat pat says kind of low effort on my part uh not low effort enough for me pat i love i love it thank you you, sir. I loved it. He, he, he. He, he, he. I went with a Michael Jackson direction on that one. You know? It's good. It's solid.

Well, I'm thrilled to be joined by a very special guest co-host, the producer behind shows like Fake Doctors, Real Friends, Welcome to Our Show, a brilliant writer who you can read at Vulture, The AV Club, Teen Vogue, Pace, The Advocate. You've heard her on Pop Culture, Happy Hour. It's the brilliant, talented joelle monique you guys have to add filmmaker to the the list now filmmaker oh yeah she's back in her filmmaking bag now hell yeah all the film nerds just pouring out. But yeah, I'm excited to be back, Jack. Tell me about the filmmaking.

Oh my gosh. I'm executive producing a short, which is a wild thing to say. People ask me what I'm doing. I'm like, I'm still not sure yet. It's a lot of email campaigns. A lot of, yes, we can get that after grants. It's basically money and paperwork, which is a very interesting and new side of filmmaking for me. But I'm excited because my friend's from college.

He was my cinematographer. His name's David Chari. He went to AFI. He's been making movies. But he wanted to challenge himself to make something he's never done before. So he's doing a one-take film. So it's 19 minutes, one shot. We're just going straight through.

How many minutes? 19. Whoa. Okay. It's 19. Whoa. Yeah. A long shot. Yeah. It's a really long shot. Bit of a Russian arc situation. Russian arc. Hey, Jack.

Thank you. This is my second deep cut film reference to a movie I haven't seen. Yeah. Off mic, you were talking about the red violin. Did a red violin. We pitched a red violin type style uh film that follows a dare t-shirt off mic so yeah my next film i've already decided we're just gonna add it to the roster there it is perfect yeah so we're excited it's gonna be uh it's a mystery

thriller satire so it's it's funny it's kind of dark and twisty it's very surprising if you want to learn more about it follow me over on instagram Instagram. So that's, yes, this has been happening inchdel cast. She also happens to have a master's degree in film. Film. The most anagrammable name in the English language. It's Caitlin Durante! Hello! Glad to be back. It's great to have you.

Now, you are wearing a t-shirt that says night paint. It says paint night. Paint night. It's all right. are wearing a t-shirt that says night paint it says paint night paint night or night paint but paint night so do either of you know what paint night is i know guessing by your shirt which is black with a beautiful splash of color right over the p i assumed it's I assumed it's either for couples and it's very romantic and or friend groups and there's some drinking and you paint and it's nighttime. How close am I? Nailed it.

Yes. So I'm wearing this shirt. I have this shirt because I was formerly a paint night instructor for the first few months I lived in L.A. That's right. Not to brag or anything, but I would show up. I'd set up the event and then people would show up often either on a date or it was a lot of friend groups. It was a lot of like middle-aged women who were there to get drunk with their friends things like that and you would usually paint a tree it was almost always a tree and i would kind of guide you through how to make this painting because i'm among so many other talents and you're a painter but make no mistake i'm not a good painter um you do not have to be a very good painter to be a paint night instructor you just kind of it's sort of it's

not quite paint by numbers because you're like it's acrylic paints and you're like blending you're mixing colors blending and mixing Yeah, those are two different things. Advanced stuff. Little known fact. But yeah, so I would be like, here's how you paint this tree. And then they would paint it and then they would get drunk

and I'd have to like sell my soul to be like, please buy a raffle ticket to another paint night event. And then I would keep the money. It was, you know and then oh here's a fun story also when i was first living in la i was very broke and people would usually order food because these would take place at generally like restaurants uh there would be like a separate room and then people would order food and then they would leave a lot of it behind.

So I would just take their leftovers. Oh, yeah. Hell yeah. You would. That's poor survival 101. Free food, never pass it up. Never pass it up. I used to work at an AMC

and at the end of the night, guess where those hot dogs went? Oh, straight home with me, baby. There would be like a half-eaten piece of pizza that I would eat. I wouldn't even cut off the mouth part. You wouldn't cut off the teeth marks? This was pre-COVID.

I threw caution to the wind, okay? I love it. I ate my weight. Like when I was a waiter, I ate my weight in leftover fries. Oh, for sure. Fries don't even keep that well. No, they don't. But they had a little a little sauce

that brought them back to life so yeah just hurriedly shoveling cold fries into my mouth over a trash can oh yeah like no i'm throwing this away what are you talking about the life yeah truly all right well caitlin we're gonna get to know you a little bit better including i can't wait to hear your thoughts on the new wonka trailer which appears to be paddington with with timothy chalamet as a funny little guy instead of paddington like in there but first a few of the things we're talking about uh tucker carlson i'm kind of proud if tucker carlson vlogs in the woods and nobody watches does tucker carlson actually vlog because it turns out we we had raised the question everybody was like oh he's on twitter now and like his first video

was seen by the equivalent of like the entire u.s population were were fucked and then like the other day i think on this show i was like wait did he never dropped the second episode huh and i was like yeah no like fox news sent a seasoned assist and i think he just like never got around he's had eight episodes since then and just nobody's really watching them or it's it's not making much of a mark so we're gonna look at tucky's numbers and uh just the question of like how much of the their whole bullshit is just you know media about their media and like them just make themselves seem more important and popular than they actually are we will catch up on we're at an interesting place with regards to AI

and pot, the popular imagination and AI is the villain in the upcoming mission impossible movie. So we're just going to talk about that and some of the claims we're seeing in headlines and how they hold up to the truth, all of that, plenty more. But first Caitlin, I'd love to ask you what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are

i googled first movie to show a toilet flushing yes which one was it well it is the movie psycho by mr alfred hitchcock it would be against the haze code or something um honestly i feel like it maybe it would have been or like just the idea of toilets or you know like pooping would be considered too improper by the code. But by the 60s, which I think the movie came out in 1960, people were taking some liberties. People were taking some nasty shit and were just ready to see it confronted in their entertainment. Yeah. That movie was like the old boy of its day. Like every, like they were like, yeah, we're going to like throw this twist in where like the star dies halfway through.

And also we're going to show you a fucking toilet, people. Yeah. I do wonder if people were scandalized by that that was that was a movie when it came out where everyone was like people are like throwing up in theaters and just running out of the running out of the theater because they're so scared of it like that was it was a big big rage so yeah i wonder if it was the toilet that got it was the toilet that absolutely disgusted people well i googled it because i i go to a trivia night sometimes i'm not just a paint night person i also do trivia i don't host all the nights yeah i every every night of the week there's a night for me and i will go and play like pub

trivia and there's this one that i frequent and they will post like one question ahead of time that you can look up and like so it's basically like a freebie but so you have to like follow the account and then you get this like freebie question and the question i think was what 1960 horror movie was the first movie to show a toilet flushing on screens so i was like i have to know this and then i knew it and you googled it so you googled the answer while you were doing the thing you're a cheater at trivia is what you're saying i will i wish but i didn't even end up going to the trivia that night oh okay so i was like oh now i know the answer and i can stay home that's perfect i want you guys to know that it was the haze code uh they considered toilets

vulgar but in 60s they started to loosen the code and they were concerned because there's toilet paper in it and they were like contents in a toilet disgusting we don't know about that but they were like listen you can't see any actual body material in the toilet so relax okay and they did and uh then it got out there and i think that's hilarious we were scared of toilets for a while in our cinema what would children have done for some reason i so i was remembering the like swirling shot of like where the camera like swirls in on her eye like as she's dying in the shower and then the camera like kind of swirls around the swirling water in the and i assumed that it was like a

match to that and they just like went to a toilet and showed like a toilet swirling but that that's not what happened honestly yeah i'm trying to see if i can just cut to somebody flushing a toilet like finishing up their business yeah norman bates is oops, I have to take a break from murder to take a pee-pee. Yeah, well, amazing. What's something that you think is overrated? I think that Wes Anderson is overrated. Oh. Let the chopper sing!

Talk to us! What exactly about Wes Anderson is overrated? What exactly about Wes Anderson is overrated? I think, look, he just tells the same quirky little story over and over again. Granted, I have not seen Asteroid City yet. So maybe this one will just blow me away and I will be excited again. To be clear, there was a time period where i did like his work but i don't know maybe i think it's just like too repetitive i don't know and but like yeah i get it like he's an auteur so he's gonna have a distinct

style that he kind of just keeps recycling over and over but like i don't know i just like find his quirky little quirkiness a bit tiresome these days yeah what era of when were you in yeah yeah i would say well the peak for me was fantastic mr fox hell yeah that's probably my favorite of his. And leading up to, but then like after that, I felt like there was just a decline. What was next, Moonrise Kingdom, I think? That one was like, okay, fine. And then again, another controversial take here, but I thought that Isle of Dogs was,

speaking of toilets, I thought it was pee pee poo. Yeah. of dogs was speaking of toilets yeah oh gosh i think that's totally fair i okay here's my experience watching almost every wes anderson film just like gosh that's really pretty oh owen wilson he's always delightful costumes should get credit wow the fits are fitting that movie was that i'll never watch it again and don't revisit wes anderson films they're like very beautiful i feel like they have just enough story to avoid being museum pieces you know what i mean you ever seen a movie in the museum yeah right but it's like tell me the plot of any wes anderson movie you can't like i can't do it like i don't remember like they just don't stick with me i feel like it's just like you see a frame and you're like wow look at all that headroom that's nice and look at this mise-en-scene

and then you're like but what was the plot? And also, why did I watch it? Yeah. I feel like he is going to be the least likely filmmaker, too, for you to be like, oh, he really surprised me on this one. This is not I did not see this one coming. I think his French dispatch was his attempt to do something different and i think it's like it's definitely my least favorite of his movies i skipped it i couldn't be bothered yeah but it's it also seems like i i don't see that many people like riding for that one usually like i feel like his movies are some people really are, some people really like it, some people really hate it.

And, you know, it's kind of random. Like, I really like Grand Budapest Hotel, but I don't like a lot of the ones around that. And that's kind of the only later era one that I really enjoy. But a lot of people, like, really love the Life Aquatic. I've never really connected with that one. Me either. But yeah, French Dispatch felt like people were like, uh-uh, we're not going with you on this one.

There are some really good performances in it. Yeah, I don't know. Part of me wants to see the Asteroid City one because it just looks like he's, instead of trying to do something different, he's like, I'm going to do the same so hard. Oh, you didn't like it when I tried something new? Well, fine. I'll do the thing again.

Yeah. How about if Wes Anderson tried to make a Wes Anderson movie? He got jealous of all the people being on on social media being like what if your day was a wes anderson movie and it's wild to me that he was upset about that like i was really trying was he upset about that i was yeah oh wow yeah he came out he was like i would never look at those and people were like it's like people are just homaging your film for like that i think the highest form of flattery is like the entire internet got together and was like, I think your aesthetic is

so utterly charming. I'm going to place myself inside of it. I really liked the meme. I thought it was cute. Disappointing. Court your fan base, please. I think it's... This is the best a parasocial relationship can be, is just to say, hey guys, I see you, and I liked what you did, and thank you, and then just move

on. Yeah. I don't know. I wonder if it's also like it would just be like he's worried it would like fuck him up a little bit to see everybody's like version of him the way that like seeing someone do an impression of you can be a little unnerving for the first time you know that is fair that okay maybe or maybe he's just an asshole I couldn't possibly imagine a universe where that's true. That's from Wes Anderson. It's got his quote directly. So, okay. So Wes Anderson said about the memes, I'm very good at protecting myself from seeing all that stuff.

If somebody sends me something like that, I'll immediately erase it and say, please, sorry, do not send me things of people doing me because I do not want to look at it thinking, is that what I do? Is that what I mean? I don't want to see too much of someone else thinking about what I try to be because God knows I could then start doing it. So to your point, Jack, this is a form of self-protection and not a dismissal of his fans. Yeah. All right. protection and now i dismiss the love his fans yeah okay all right also he he does betray in that quote like a little bit of like a thing i always suspect about anybody who got famous before like a certain point like that they just like don't know how technology works like if someone

sends me something i erase it like What do you mean you erase it? The link that they sent to you? Yeah, they delete it from internet.com. Oh, man. Caitlin, what's something you think is underrated? All right, continuing on the movie train. Choo-choo. Yeah.

Mission Impossible 4. the on the movie train choo-choo yeah mission impossible 4 people are not out here riding for mission impossible 4 specifically the way that i think they should people are like oh wow rogue nation oh wow the number six one oh i really love number three no there's no love ever for mission impossible for ghost protocol oh i think that's the best one i think so too it's so good i know but no we are alone in this world i think jack i thought i thought that one was the one where everyone was like okay this like i thought that one kind of picked it up at least in like the critical consensus like three two was not good it was stinky it was another toilet movie hair commercial it was a hair like he just it was just glamour shots of tom cruise and then tom cruise doing impossible

things but not in the way that we like jumping a motorcycle be not off of something just making it jump somehow but and then three was like kind of but like four seemed every everybody seemed on board with it and like brad bird was so huge back then right four was so fucking fire i had to look it up because i couldn't remember i don't remember if we just say numbers i'm like i've seen so many sorry joel mission impossible ghost protocol that ought to clear it up for you with the program again not plot but i remember places y'all remember tom cruise hanging off the side of a building just scaling one of the tallest buildings in the world the window and then his gloves are failing and then a sandstorm is coming all while they're trying to do a switcheroo inside the building fantastic but just on this listen fuck tom cruise but man make a good movie i'm sorry it's really fucking good and it's like

the intensity is so great we have paula patton a black woman in here just being the hot lady that's walking around in gorgeous dresses. We love to see it. And Ghost Protocol, just title alone peak. But then you also get if you're a person who really loves the relationships in Mission Impossible, there's like a lot of

heart coming through when he gets back with his lady I think. Spoiler alert. At the end, he's like, oh god, I see my girl and I love her this is also the movie where the final villain is just raining cars on people and tom's got yeah that's the one yeah go for the whole freaking rocks dude one of those car lift things that i've always like seen passing by like on a highway i'm being like that can't be like the best way to store cars how does this work yeah i feel like that's is that not the first one where like simon pegg is pretty heavily involved both as

a cast member and i think i'm the like kind of writing team yeah i think that's right yeah yeah it's just it's good but people are like Yeah. Yeah. It's good. But people are like, what is the sixth one called? I keep trying to conjure. Fallout.

I think it's Fallout. Oh, Fallout. Yeah. People are like, oh, remember the fight in the bathroom when they're punching each other? I'm like, what about the fourth movie, though? Yeah. What about the fourth? the fourth movie though yeah what about the fourth arm slash gun cock is an iconic moment in mission impossible history and sexuality of this country we all really changed and evolved over that two second henry cavill is that who we're talking about are we talking about henry

cavill's arm he had a mustache and he was cocking his arms like they were guns it was a time to be alive uh we were two years from COVID. We were innocent. We didn't know. We did not know. But yeah, as a whole, I don't know if it beats out MI4 for me. MI4, best. I wonder if there's some intentional, like, kind of diminishing of Ghost Protocol, because

everything since then, I think, has been Christopher McQuarrie and Tom Cruise, and they, like, partner on everything. So maybe they're, you know, they just don't want to talk about it and like emphasize it as much but i do feel like like people who are into movies that is their favorite mission impossible movie so if you if you have somehow missed it if you've fallen into the cruise mcQuarrie gray out of Ghost Protocol. You know, definitely check it out. It's a blast. Love it. Have you seen the new one? Came out

I believe last night. Oh, did it? Oh, like as an early release. No, I have an AMC A-list Stubbs reservation. We come to this place for magic of course. Yes, we course. Yes, we do. We do.

And we wear sparkly pants and high heels and walk through puddles. I am seeing it on Saturday morning. Nice. I think I need to get that. My last trip to the movies with my kids to see Across the Spider-Verse, which, by the way i i do want to get your opinion on that caitlin since you are the person who made me watch uh into the spider-verse with my son when he was you didn't make me but you told me i held you at night you got me so excited about that movie i was like we're gonna watch this even though you're three and he loved it and he loved this one but the line at the concessions they finally wore me down

where the line was like a disney world line like it was just it was not moving it was 30 minutes of waiting to get the concessions oh no yeah so you get yourself a little stubs car you could pre-order that yeah and then when you walk up you're ready although i do recommend not pre-ordering your popcorn because sometimes if you go first thing in the morning listen here's a tip if you're going first thing in the morning like caitlin's going saturday morning you can pre-order your popcorn because they pop their popcorn fresh in the morning and it's totally fine and it'll be tasty if you're going to a movie after three o'clock i'll get your popcorn in the amc gold line because it's popcorn that they popped like four hours ago and it's all crumbly and it's just not good all right let's take a quick break and

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And we're back. And Caitlin, you are famously a huge proponent of Paddington, Paddington 2, and Paddington 3, the Willy Wonka origin story, which seems to be what we've just seen a trailer for. So we took a little break. We stopped down during the break for everybody to watch the Wonka. Is that what it's called? Wonka? Wonka. Just Wonka.

Cut the Willy and Chocolate Factory. Just Wonka. It's cleaner. willie and chocolate factory just wonka it's cleaner that has a lot of like the paddingtonian like charms and like it feels like it takes place in the same universe as paddington in certain certain parts i mean from what i can tell they're recycling sets from yeah paddington movies they're recycling the cast of the paddington movies and obviously it's the same director and screenwriter as i mean paul king directed both paddington one and two except for not three which i'm a little nervous about but uh and then simon farnaby is that his name oh my god i hope it is simon farnaby

get the fuck out of here so So British. Wannabe. Get over here. He co-wrote the screenplay for Paddington 2. He's also the guy who plays the guard in both Paddington movies. He has a little bit part. Does he have a mustache and kind of a round face? No mustache, but he's got, I would actually call it more of a square face. Okay. but he's got i would actually call it more of a square face okay and he's the guy who the joke is

that he's attracted to men who are dressed as women so the implications of that and the it being framed as a joke is a little questionable but he that's like his gimmick in both movies. Wow. Yeah. I mean, so, okay, this guy, that's about what I'd expect a Simon Farnaby to look like. He's got wild hair. But yeah, it just seems like, and there's some like mildly problematic, like, I don't know, white saviorism stuff happening here and somebody who at one point steps out of a car that seems to be completely full of shit, which I'm not sure what, or maybe that's chocolate.

That's chocolate? That is a mess. That looks like horse dung. You know the movie about a man who makes chocolate? There's a car full of shit. A car full of shit. Also, I think Keegan-Michael Key is in a fat suit

at one point. Like, I'm not sure about this movie. I also have so much Timothee Chalamet fatigue. Yeah. I'm very fatigued. Yeah.

So, the young lad is talented. I quite liked his performance in Dune. He was doing the thing. He cares about it a lot. Yeah. Here, it seems

I can't even necessarily say miscast. It just doesn't, nothing seems to quite be coming together in a way that gives you the warm gooey that a Paddington gives you, perhaps because Paddington is an animated bear and precocious and adorable beyond all measure. And that's a boy.

Yes. He's a very famous guy whose face we're all familiar with. It just lacks the whole suspension of disbelief required to kind of sink into like oh it's a cozy British movie and it was funny because as the credits were rolling they were like from the team that brought you Paddington

and the producers of Harry Potter I said of course of course they did this look at these aerial shots of CG spaces completely unnecessarily Britain is no shortage of adorable little shops you could film at and or imitate. Why are we here in this like cement circle space? I didn't understand any of the choices made. I wasn't getting the tone or story that I think one would hope for.

And I also think Oompa Loompas are so problematic. And you can't just keep doing this with Roald Dahl properties. And being like. So we know racism was involved. But we just ran in the other direction. So it's totally fine. We are not addressing it. But also we're not giving up these properties.

So here. The formerly racist thing right in your face. It's cute now though. It's charming. It's not. It's very annoying. But now Hugh Grant plays the Oompa Loompas. Now I would ask the question.

What if Hugh Grant was orange? Yeah. I will say I got the smallest chuckle out of once we start, we can't stop dancing and Hugh Grant's ass is just in the air. I was like, I bet this movie gets me at points because they know how to trigger someone into crying and or like being like, oh oh but i doubt it's cohesive as an entire film is where i'm at based off that trailer we will see willie wonka is a creep in the movies that succeed like he's i so i i'm not sure what they're doing what they're going to do with that

part like that that is kind of what's fun about him is there's like an edge of danger there and this just seems to be like he's the story of an amazing magical kid who's good at everything and yeah a lot of a lot of whimsy and gumption anyways and and then Across the Spider-Verse, just full triumph. Oh, best movie I've ever seen, maybe? It's a blast. I loved it. So good. Okay. All right.

Speaking of best movies we've ever seen. Our review. Yeah. I mean, it's great. Yeah. Not great. Tucker Carlson's Man of the Woods era seems to be so i don't know his show dropped there was like the announcement that everybody made a big deal about got 137 million tweet views not that's not people who viewed the video that's people who saw the tweet episode 120 million that's like a big portion of the u.s population and then it

kind of disappeared off my radar i did not know what was happening but yeah so so there's like this new thing making the rounds because he's interviewing accused rapist andrew tate for what appears to be two and a half hours oh seems to be too many hours for that interview to take place. And, but the most surprising thing for me was that it is episode eight of his show. We've, they've kept making them and just like nobody like really noticed or gave a shit.

They, they seemed, there seemed to be a promise with like the announcement in the first episode like elon and carlson together now you know you're in trouble friends and it's just it doesn't seem to have taken and now i think that's where the andrew tate thing's coming from presumably like the liver king is is coming to the show soon because it's just like well this person's popular on the internet right we'll we'll go with them anything for ratings anything for anything for them sweet internet ratings but yeah the the numbers go from 120 million tweet views on the first to 60 million to there was Trump got indicted.

So bounce back up to 104, but down to 32 million, then 17, 15, 8.6 million tweet views on the last one, which. Yeah, I think in the world of trend forecasting, that's known as a death spiral. But you can actually see the spiral shape because there's a trailing tale of panicked diarrhea yeah that's the official i'm just reading that off and it is chocolate right yeah but i don't know i'm sure there's going to be an uptick with andrew tate interview but i don't know i wonder if he's a victim of like atomic habits you know he's no longer on his like main network right so people who are just routinely watching fox and like okay so there we are we're good we can easily find him like now you have to kind of go searching for him and then

twitter is imploding like rapidly and so because i don't think his base at least from what i know has been is discouraged or off of watching him i doubt it's his actual popularity and so much of shifting i want it to be his popularity i just think it's probably more likely that all of the shifting of platforms and the ever-changing social media landscape as it exists currently might be interfering overall with people just naturally being able to find him yeah also these numbers are tweet views right so it doesn't even mean that the person watched the episode is that right so we actually found those numbers for like people who actually watched the episode and first of all these numbers are wildly inflated because

in order to count as a video view you just have to have watched it for two seconds but they're like all a fraction of the numbers that were that you would see on the tweet views like his episode one was not viewed by 120 million people the actual episode was viewed 26.7 million times for at least two seconds. And his latest one was not 8.6 million. It was 3.8 million, which again, that's two seconds of viewing. That's about as much as his like TV show ratings where like people actually

have to watch like a chunk of the episode in order for it to count. Like, and this is like you know 3.8 million people glancing past it watching it for two seconds accidentally and then being like no thanks so and the trend is just very has to be a little discouraging so i'm assuming there's going to be a lot of tweets from elon being like, these numbers are actually great. And, you know, he's going to be pushing these really hard to get the numbers back up because this drastically undercuts his narrative that Twitter is like the future of media

and that he's doing a good job, I think, is actually the main part of his narrative. But I also just think that there's there there is certainly a sizable portion like too large a portion of the population that watches tucker carlson and thinks he makes sense and shit like that but frighteningly large i think they have in the mainstream media and like our media echo chamber have like over made us overestimate how big that is and like they're like the far right movement like i think they're finding out like in a bunch of ways across a bunch of different stories like we're finding out the the book bands are like only like there's like a handful of people who made the book bans happen the right like mothers for liberty is like a loose assortment of people like from across the country

who are like they're not even from the school boards or the school districts that they are terrorizing and like the midterms were i think a lot of people were like oh this will be a wake-up call this should be a wake-up call people don't like when the republican party goes in this like far right direction or at least not enough people like it so i don't know it just feels like we've been seeing stories repeatedly that's like people aren't like this crazy you know like the the like super far right is not as big as they appear to be when in in the mainstream media and like when you're when you're seeing the news stories that like they generate there's like a lot of the westborough baptist church effect happening where that organization which actually was just a family

out in kansas was able to like dominate mainstream media coverage for like a decade you know it's like the by being outrageous and infuriating you're able to make yourself seem like you're one of the biggest, most important cultural movements instead of just being, you know, kind of making a lot of people uncomfortable. Yeah. There's a whole digital masking as well. If you think about, you know,

the way Facebook drove us from written work to video with false numbers, a lot of people are claiming they're seeing similar trends on Twitter and that as soon as they started showing stats under tweets, people were like these numbers seem off as compared to like, you know, people have

independent trackers that like get all of this information from their Twitter handles and the numbers are not correlating and so it wouldn't surprise me if even the generosity of those numbers under Tucker's show were, you know, being doctored from within. Yeah.

Oh, for sure. And like, I don't know how they could have foreseen that a pivot to video would not work, you know, decades after that, like basically broke the rest of the media. But that, that seems to be one of his main strategies. It's almost like Elon Musk's not that smart. Almost like Elon Musk is not as smart as we've all been pretending he is. All right, let's take a quick break

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It's getting great reviews. It does indeed seem to be about Ethanhan hunt battling a self-aware ai program known as the entity which i don't know this like he might as well from from my perspective like that is as dramatically impactful as like he's battling a wizard this time it's just like okay well that doesn't really make sense to me or like it's not like really a thing and and that does when people are critical of the movie they seem to say like all the stuff about ai kind of drags a little bit but and visually it is depicted as basically an evil screensaver from 1999 like it's just okay i'm here with like white dots of light 300 million dollar movie by the way but it can so the main claim

that the movie makes about this ai and i guess ai in general is that the program makes about this AI, and I guess AI in general, is that the program can also see the future, like very specifically, through its predictive technology. And that's like based on what we're seeing in news headlines. Like the, you know, deep learning, teaching computers to predict the future

is like a headline I feel like I've seen a hundred times. Spooky artificial intelligence can accurately predict the future is like a headline I feel like I've seen a hundred times. Spooky artificial intelligence can accurately predict the future, and it's about to be asked more questions. AI can now predict crime before it happens, as we'll get into in a moment. Oh, you mean like that movie Minority Report, also starring Tom Cruise? Tom Cruise? Yeah. tom cruise tom cruise yeah he's he i feel like his sense of reality is probably more blurred by the movies he's in than any other movie star like well yeah because he has an entire organization blurring his reality yeah before he hits set and then you're in that magical landscape

where he's made himself king so yeah i mean that that guy's not living on planet earth yeah the this movie actually was like written it was supposed to come out like years ago but the production famously shut down due to the coronavirus outbreak which according to reports in february 2020 was putting a real damper on offshore location shoots wow Gave us the Tom Cruise thing where it was clear that he thought he was the last barrier between like the end of the world and, you know, coronavirus just like killing everyone where he was like shouting at everyone. But first of all, I just want to say to AI, speaking of, I'd like to issue a big, where you on that one dipshit today i'm predicting the global pandemic like we couldn't we couldn't see that one coming a lot of people saw it coming people just mere people saw it coming but yeah the the whole predicting the future thing seems to be

vastly overstated like there's a so the mit researchers who had created a computer that could supposedly you mean mission impossible technology mission impossible technology mi technology yes yeah they are loosely associated but it was basically like they were predicting they would show the computer a picture and then the computer would predict like what would happen for the next 1.5 seconds in that picture and like that it was like someone walking across a golf course and they were like yeah that thing's about to keep walking across that golf course they were like holy shit you guys or like one was a wave crashing they were like i think it's gonna keep crashing call me crazy and they were like fucking a thing is brilliant this thing's magical and yeah and then like mit uh mission possible

technology also developed an algorithm that could predict how people will greet each other and got a lot of cool headlines for that. It was trained on YouTube videos and reruns of The Office and Desperate Housewives. Amazing. And it was only right just over 43% of the time. We never greet each other like we do on Desperate Housewives. I wish we did, but like I can't just walk up to my enemy and slap him across the face. It's not reality.

I know. And that sucks. And hopefully we'll get to that world. Soon. That's my future that I'm hopeful for. So one second away from the greeting, they could only predict it 43% of the time. This is what I'm always wondering.

How does that compare to humans? Humans making the same prediction were right 71% of the time. Okay. So much better than this AI that everyone... Did you guys ever see the 60 Minutes where they... Like, the 60 Minutes about AI? I think it came out, like, back in March or April. And, like, I think it came out like back in march or april and like i think it's scott pelly like one of the old journalists on 60 minutes is just like okay like write a speech for me about this and then he seems to be blown away by like the amount of text it produces

like he's like that just wrote a whole speech in four seconds like he's it's like he's never seen a computer before but i i do think we're at a weird place where people will you can just be like magic ai is bad guy in movie and everyone's like yep that makes sense because like we we should be afraid of ai but people don't really know why necessarily we should be and so we just you know like it's the same thing that happens with all our conspiracy theories and you know we should be scared about the pandemic we should be scared about the government's response to the pandemic but people create like vast conspiracy theories just to make sure they're like scared about it for nonsensical reasons it's like we we need that like cognitive dissonance transference happening and i feel

like we're starting to see that with ai where they're like ai is going to be magic and tell us everything that could happen to us for the rest of our lives and that's that's not the scary thing about ai right the scary thing is like skynet and that's the thing like movies have been having ai as the villain for like decades now and i feel like i don't know what my point is going to be but remember terminator one remember the matrix from 1999 over 20 years ago like i just think it's funny that ai i guess hasn't evolved very much in movies yeah i don't know no i mean for real like we've been knowing that was what i'm saying yeah and i think it's interesting you know movies by their very nature have to heighten and dramatize in order to effectively bring home their message particularly if we're looking at genre films and the ai has

always been like you know turns into a cop and now it's hunting you or right you know it's it takes away your freedom of choice you know if we look at uh the matrix yes what's the other one the uh minority report yeah minority about minority report like their that's like also might commit a crime and it's set in the future it's like a sci-fi movie where it's like minor uh sorry mission impossible is supposed to be like even though they can take masks off that make them look exactly like the other person like you you wouldn't see tom cruise fighting robots necessarily or like no you know but that that feels like it it's a step into this is shit that can actually happen. Yeah. Yeah.

And I appreciate the grounding. I think we got there because it's so much more tactile in this moment. concerned about self-checkout for like over a decade a lot of those stores are unionized and have actively been like hey you're taking jobs from like checkout counter people some of whom are elderly and this is like the last place they can work and make money consistently to the writers and actors who may be on strike by the time this comes out. And their fear that not only could AI be used to take their job, but I mean, for performers, can my face be doing things long, long, long after I'm dead? And what will that look like?

I think as we're sort of confronting these things, AI is a really frigging dope tool. I'm so much more concerned about these executives who are like oh great now i don't have to pay people did you guys see the io9 article that was written by ai they came out a couple days ago they have internet in a tangle yeah that's this is like i've ever since i've been you know working on the internet creating trying to create like unique interesting content there's also been this push to just flood the zone with shit to quote steve bannon like we we used to like a crack cracked was owned by a company that was like also

just destroying google's search results with just like fake articles like answers to questions and stuff and they were like trying to get us to like do that just like there was like scale how do we scale and like that's been you know that that intersection of tech and media has always been scary because it's very easy for them to just create 99 million articles using technology now that like yeah pass like a little bit like you have to like read a paragraph to be like wait this this wasn't written by a human was it yeah so the article was like ranking the star wars movies in like chronological order i think yeah and they got the dates wrong on many of sometimes they weren't even listed in chronological order the way they were dated the information in

individual movies was incredible it was just error filled like no logical sane editor would have been like and published and what's crazy is i don't know his entire union that's actively been like hey we do not want this it does not make sense to ask an ai program that cannot consistently write fact-checked articles to be publishing these and then asking somebody an editor to like go through and essentially rewrite this incorrect work that isn't benefiting anyone because who needs this list we have 27 000 of this very specific well this is dumb uh and it's wild that you know i'm glad the internet roasted the editor-in-chief pretty intently i'm really hoping that brings them back

to the table and there can be more discussions about how this company decides to use ai in the future but it's that kind of stupid shit that's like really draining i think on workers across job titles it's just like what are we what are you trying you just want to force people out of work and that's not a logical thing for you to do to yourself you need people to have money yeah to your point the product sucks like the product the ai is bad as it's fun bad at its fucking job like with regards to like the self-checkout thing the the ai like can't stop people from stealing stuff and so the companies are like losing massive amounts of money on theft and then in order to combat that they're just like making claims that like everyone's shoplifting

when it's just like no like you just put a like inadequate program like as the thing in charge of like making sure people can't steal stuff or like that they don't want to steal stuff and it's just not going to it's not gonna work but they made it way too easy because when i was in college we would for sure bring up like a full roast chicken as like some grapes bam we're good stop no uh if there's a person there's no possible way you could get like that used to be somebody's job to scan and bag your stuff there's no possible way to get around that's what i'm saying though like none of these things are thought out they just see a way to potentially preserve money without looking at the long-term costs and then they still have to hire someone to monitor the self-checkout area so it's like well how much money are you actually saving mr grocery yeah big grocery which are now owned by just like two companies

in all of america but yeah like so they've also been using it in like predictive crime fighting technology but of course first of all the data that it's being fed is from police data so it's you know using the it's not predicting crime it's predicting like where police are spending their time is essentially which is in low income and, you know, nonwhite neighborhoods. And it's just complete bullshit. There's one great anecdote where Chicago's predictive policing software created by the Illinois Institute of Technology compiled a list of people most likely to be involved in a violent crime. Oh, no. Ha ha.

AI, baby. Check out this. Because it was generated by AI, no. Ha ha. AI, baby. Check out this. Because it was generated by AI, you can trust this. And then an investigation later found that the software's list of future criminals included every single person arrested or fingerprinted in Chicago since 2013.

Whoa. So it was just like copying off of another data set. That's all AI can do is it can gather and redistribute information using keywords that the person using it inputs, which means it's logically going to be flawed because it's not understanding the words. It's just reorganizing them in a way that it thinks makes sense to you. It's not a thinking machine. Yeah. The technology is not there yet and people are way too eager to jump into it in a way that would almost assuredly collapse society which is why

it's insane to me that we're still having to like explain this to people to be like they're like did you see the article from uh was it the hollywood reporter that came out about the executives and how they're choosing to fight the unions. Yeah. By just waiting them out. Yeah. Essentially. And the key part that's resonated with me was like, this is a necessary evil.

Yeah. Was the verbatim words from this quote source. And we're pretty sure this is a scare tactic to get SAG to not strike and then saying, hey, we will wait out the writers writers we'll rate out the actors as well but i think what's really happened is they've fired up the base of unions to be like um excuse me unnecessary evil is not destroying the beautiful industry and community that people have tried to create here for literally over a century it's nonsensical. I just, I can't understand the end game other than I guess 40 people will be a little bit wealthier.

Yeah, that's all it is. I, yeah, I don't think it's going to cause society to collapse. It'll just accelerate the thing that's already happening, which is just like grotesque inequality, like gets worse.

And like, they're able to hire fewer people to do jobs. And also the other thing that key that seems to be happening is like the quality of everything is getting worse and like that's going to keep happening you know like tv shows movies or but to my point isn't that like if we can track revolutions based off the price of bread right like so when people can no longer afford bread, that's when they riot in the streets and take out leaders and get very

serious about their actions because bread is everybody's base staple for survival. Then we have a fairly large, the entertainment community is huge. I know some people think this is like a very small or elite space, but it's ginormous. And most of the people working in it are like working class people. And so if you eliminate everyone who, I mean, because essentially what if when AI gets good

enough, when it's actually usable, it will eliminate everybody who is of average talent, right? What you do is you write pretty cute Hallmark stories and you're pretty good at that. And they're successful enough to get commercials into air frequently. Then great. You can probably buy a house and you can feed your kids and send them to college and you can have a very comfortable life. If AI can do that job,

then you're wiping out hundreds of thousands of jobs. And that is really, really bad news for like Los Angeles, the County. I just, to me, I know it's like a small first step but to me like the dominoes seem large and looming and absolutely like probable like if things are not stopped immediately

and i really think that that's the takeaway from the wga strike and and i really do hope sag joins because it's it's not just going to stop at the entertainment industry it's going to continue to sprawl out toward like we are one american workforce yeah and we're all about to be impacted by this shit it's crazy yeah but yeah i i think if people had a better sense also of how shitty ai is at its job it would it would help you know help the cause of being like we don't want you to do a like take a program that is like better than you know what we could have gotten a year ago when if we were like microsoft word write me a screenplay like yeah that's not good it's not gonna be good but like it's still not good and like you know all all of anything that you're applying ai to still has all the problems that

your previous systems had because it's using those previous systems as input so just the the fact that like news articles about these things fail to focus on like the main point of the study and instead are just like it's predicting the future. And then that bleeds into our Mission Impossible films, our number, our modern-day constitution. What's going to happen? But,

anyways. Well, Caitlin, such a pleasure having you on the podcast. The pleasure is all mine. Thank you so much. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? You can follow me

on the social media platforms. I've lost track. What's the one that's the Instagram one? Threads. Yeah, I guess I'm on that. Have I posted anything? No, but you can follow me there

if you want and the other places. Also listen to my podcast the bechdel cast that i co-host with jamie loftus speaking of ai the episode we released today is on the disney channel original movie classic smart house so you're welcome, everybody. Yes! What a win for us! I can't wait to listen. And if you live in or near LA, I've got some stand-up comedy shows coming. Hell yeah. If you go to my website, CaitlinDurante.com, the information will be there.

But I have one July 28th. It is at 11 p.m., but that shouldn't stop you from going. That's a Friday night. Comedy night. That's comedy night in America. So I've got paint nights, I've got trivia nights, and I've got comedy nights. I have another comedy night on August 2nd. That one is a more reasonable hour of 8 o'clock at night.

There you go. So check that. Go check all of those places. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Yes. These days I usually plug a movie. This one came out about a month ago, but it's still in a lot of theaters, I think. So I would recommend people watch The Blackening.

I thought it was super funny. Yes. And had a blast. Nice. Joelle, thank you so much for guest hosting on the show. Where can people find you and follow you? Yeah. Okay.

So guys, go to dinner-film.com. It's a dash, like a hyphen. It's a symbol. If you need help finding it, it's on every app I'm on, which is all of them. Just go to the link in my bio and it'll pop up. Yeah. What's my handle? It's Joelle Monique. You can find me all over the internet at Joelle Monique. It's J-O-E-L-L-E-M-O-N-I-i-q-u-e guys promoting things is a challenge i'm gonna get better at it a piece of media i have been enjoying it is a total cop-out because everyone already knows this it shocks no one but have y'all seen the bear it's great i honestly when people are like i haven't gotten into it yet i'm like I know there's a mass number of things you could be watching. I know it's called The Bear and it looks like it might be dramatic and depressing. I promise you it's not. It's so fiery and entertaining and funny and the food looks so good and it makes your heart feel good. And sometimes makes you a little bit sad, but it's totally worth it because the journey is so well written and performed.

Congrats to Aya Odebrecht, who's so many nominations this year. Watching her journey is so well written and performed congrats to iowa debory who's so many nominations this year and watching her career is so inspirational watch the bear folks give it all the love it deserves it's it's good for your soul it's really good what about you jack i'm taking that one very slowly i'm still in the first season but every time i watch it i'm like man i really like that there's no problem going slow it's it will be there for you and it will remain great so my wife like when i when i was like out of town one time like left me behind on like episode five like she just like binged the rest of it and so i'm like i'm just squeezing it in and i can't do it when we're doing our tv watching so food no you make her re-watch it,

Jack. You'd be like, we could have watched this together the first time. This could have been us. She ruined it. Did you intentionally say my wife like Borat or was that unintentional? I didn't say Borat. You heard it too, right? What are you talking about? Just a little bit. Just a casual Borat-ing.

No. You're like, my wife. My wife? That's just how I say my wife. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find me on threads at Jack underscore O underscore Brian. I'm on threads and so many underscores in there. Nice. And a couple tweets I've been enjoying.

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