The Daily Zeitgeist - AI = The Death Of Essays? GOP’s Non-Platform 09.07.22

Episode Date: September 7, 2022

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from the swift completion of their appointed rounds shout out to the post office just to just do a national post office day maybe yeah yeah don, yeah. Don't make it by one. Right now it sounds like a logic problem about a type of precipitation that we're supposed to be guessing. Could it just be like New York Postal Workers Day? Probably be like, neither snow nor rain.

Anyways, my name's Jack O'Brien aka, ooh baby I like Baja. Ooh baby I like Baja. That is courtesy of Bohemian Rhapsody Andrew is the twitter handle and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host

Mr. Miles Gray bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum past three days never sleep. Grind away on my way to, wait, on my way to where the haters weep. Can you tell me how to get, how to get to Lambo, please?

Okay, how do you get that Lambo? Just go on YouTube and look for all these people preaching the growth, the wealth, prosperity, and you too may have Lambo that will fill the father-shaped void in your soul. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined. That was beautiful, by the way. Oh, also, I forgot to shout out. That's from Ghostface Killer. Oh, really? Grossface Killer. My bad.

On Discord. I still fuck with you, Tony. my bad on discord i still fuck with you tony i would be impressed but also a little worried about ghostface's career and investments if he was writing akas for us but maybe just a big fan i mean would gross face killer be like tony barfs like how would you that because you know he's tony starks you know he's got many nicknames the iron man Man. Right. Gross face killer. If you were a gross face killer. Tony Barfs is good. Tony Barfs, yeah. This is, we're picturing Garbage Pail Kid equivalents of all the Wu-Tang Clan members. Right, right, right. This probably needs to happen if it hasn't already.

And if it has already, send it to me. It's like pop art that we should have. All right, well, sorry. Sorry to derail the show again with that question. Oh, Miles. Get back on track. Trying, man. Get back on track. Trying.

Long weekend. Long weekend. We're thrilled to be joined by a creative and political activist who has gone viral a number of times, including creating the video in which Ellen DeGeneres is non apology monologue about being friends with George W. Bush was juxtaposed with footage of his war crimes. And Ellen was not thrilled. Tried to get it taken down among many other things that's just the one that you you might know him from please welcome the brilliant and talented Raphael Shmunov rap in the building I'm still recovering a little bit from I think you shouted something in German to this Jewish person. I shouted away from the mic though.

I was being sensitive. You did muffler. My ancestors put their hands on my shoulders. Steady, steady, steady. What about my Howard Dean scream? Did that take you back? That one just always reminds me of how little it took to sink someone yeah nothing can sink

anyone anymore i know that's i honestly that's why i love that clip it's like the dude literally is just like saying he was so stoked on the idea of being the president like yikes he's unhinged have we gotten the deep dive like journalistic deep dive documentary about the Dean scream, because I think it's, it's both a testament to how little it could take to sink someone. And also how little it can take to sink someone when the mainstream media is cooperating and don't like their policies. There has to be one out there. And the Dean scream is the,

is the exact name that it should be. Right. You know, some people know, know it as the I Have a Scream. It's just good memeing. This is bullshit, man.

It's on the Wikipedia page. It doesn't remind me of wrestling. Like WWF, WWE. Oh my god. I know there's the documentary about where they look at the audio and they say that he actually didn't scream that loud. And that might have been an episode of This American Life or something that I'm remembering. But I want to see the one about the just general agreement behind closed doors by the mainstream media to be like let's kill him with this should we kill him with this yeah let's let's get rid of this because he anticipated

so many things about modern politics and moving towards progressive ideals and also online fundraising but i'm sure there are but that's cream dude what a nerd huh it was when when the mainstream media was an internet uh an approximation of what the internet would become and also just bullies in a lunchroom essentially keep doing and they keep blaming now they say it's twitter the twitter mob that does it but they did it with duakis, where he had this helmet on and he was in a tank. And he's a man of normal stature or smaller stature. And they used that to ridicule him and John Kerry. Yeah, Kerry was...

So they killed Dean with the scream to make room for John Kerry, who they then killed with the flip-flop. But John Kerry did it to himself in a lot of ways. Maybe they made room for Dean, or made room for Kerry because they knew, oh, we are going to rinse this fool. They also have a picture of him in all this PPE going through a tube, like an HVAC tube. It was just wild.

But yeah, he did a lot to himself. Yeah. And now they can't do shit about Trump, unfortunately. Those two are probably related. Them just doing shit at a whim based on who they thought had the best odds in the horse

race for the Democratic nomination and people losing faith in their opinion of things might be related. Anyways, Raph, it's great to have you back. It's been a little while. How have you been doing? I'm doing good. I just came back from a rally yesterday. It was the Starbucks workers and the Amazon labor union rally for Labor Day. We went to Jeff Bezos' penthouse, then we went to Schultz's penthouse with the

workers. We ended up in Times Square. It was a really, really powerful, powerful moment. Amazing. Bezos and Mr. Schultz weren't there to greet you with, you know, non-legal... It was their penthouses. I think Bezos keeps buying more floors and now it's up to like, I don't know, maybe over 120 million dollars and value of that of these two floors of this penthouse yeah this is why he's gonna stop at the seventh floor nothing below seven because he doesn't want to hear the protests this dc mansion has 25 bathrooms and we're all like still kind of trying to figure out like why would someone need 25 bathroom but you go in there and it's just all bathrooms the whole thing it's not that big

it's just it's like a door city from the first episode of the rehearsal and where's my room oh it's the third door on the left there it's just a bathroom that's right where the pieces of shit go it's kind of a troll to me it's like the the workers have to pee in these bottles and then he's like fuck them i'm gonna get 25 bathrooms He's like, I will cut my pee off midstream and spread it over seven toilets. Just stunt on you broke ass workers. Watch it. I'm like, oh, that hurts a little bit. But I got to go to the next one.

All right, Raph. We are going to get to know you a little bit better. Is that OK, Raph? Yeah, absolutely. All right, great. Well, we're going to get to know you a little bit better. Miles called you that. And I just I'm not as cool as Miles.

I can't like pull off nicknames sometimes. No, I just thought that's how we always greeted each other. But I guess not. I'm sorry to go by the Twitter handle, but I feel like conversationally I've always known him as Rap. There you go. All right, well, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. We are talking about the end of college, high school, middle school essays,

as we know that. There is a new AI that is pretty sophisticated. We were talking about, I think we have a pretty low bar for the visual AIs where you type in the search term and you're like Kobe Bryant, Berenstain Bears, 9-11. And it spits out something that includes those things.

And we're like, whoa, it's amazing. It does kind of look like kobe bryant and you know that's kind of the brown cloud with a 24 is gonna hit that equal sign and you're like it looks but everyone looks like they're melting and the twin towers are like kind of bent for some reason but we're still impressed by that's my's my art critique on this. That's my art critique on this. I'm just saying we, I think, you know, Raph, you were saying before we started that maybe this is part of the AI's plan

is to give us an underdog story. They're psyching us out. Yeah. Give us a bad one that we can root for. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, the SA AI is way more impressive. So we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about the Republicans not really knowing what to campaign on anymore. Still trying to still trying to figure that out. We're going to talk about fast food bowls. Apparently not going anywhere. And yeah. Apparently not going anywhere.

And yeah. Anyways, all that, plenty more. But first, we like to ask our guest, Raph, what is something from your search history? So you all asked recently for me to provide a photo of myself to promote this episode. So as this Jewish person, I'm doxxed a lot and smeared by right-wing Jews because of my solidarity with Palestinians. So they always do me the favor of finding the most menacing or ridiculous looking photos that I ever took. And they, they post it and they dox you and blah, blah, blah. And, um, so there's one that goes around. I had the choice between two. There was one that goes around. It looks like I'm on the London underground and it looks like I'm some far

right football hooligan. And I'm just tanned enough that day where they, they just like, it was like this perfect mix for them to discredit me as a Jewish person. And then they, they found one that they needed for me to, to, to show that I'm misappropriating my Jewishness and talking about Palestinian

human rights. So there, there's this picture of me with a sliced bagel and using that as as headphones and it's ridiculous and that's why i think that's what i was googling i was like i have to give these guys a a headshot let me look through google and i know i'm upping the algorithm on google for the most terrible sites that come up right and you know every time my mom googles me she probably cries but it is the easiest photo library wait so how i'm curious because i can only imagine what kind of disingenuous attacks you have to face when you're

objectively being like this is an apartheid state um And they're like, yo, shut the fuck up. How are you, are they saying that just like you're weaponizing your Jewish background to sort of bolster the argument to be in solidarity with Palestine? Yeah, they have names for it. They, you know, I don't want to go too deeply into it, but however, they do it to white Jews, but they do it with a special kind of zest to Jews of color. So I'm from Uzbekistan and they, they basically test you.

Like when I bump them on the street or on Twitter, on DMS, they asked me to like prove to them like indicators that I'm really Jewish and not like secretly Muslim or some kind of agent of some, of some sort, just because I'm like hey one person one vote right monster yeah or like or even just like they're like uh i think never mind i can only imagine yeah the absurdity of like just looking at things in real time and having a whole very

highly energized group of people to just attack you. The way to disempower it is to really talk about it and bring it up and ridicule it. But for me, it's easy because I have a platform to do that. And there's a lot of people who are docs like this, who this is the first result in their name on Google for life. And it's going gonna affect jobs it's gonna affect their relationships it's they don't have a platform to self self you know speak for themselves and respond and then feel like which which tweet was photoshopped which thing was taken out of context so what we did was there's one group like this it's called it's like this

fake hate site but it's called stop antisemitism.org and it's run by a right. It's like this fake hate site, but it's called StopAntiSemitism.org. And it's run by a right-winger, like Trumper. But we took the dot-com version from under them. They forgot to either renew it or something. And I raised some money and we bought it from under them. We crowdsourced it and now we're going to create that space for people to respond. For those people who don't have a platform, so that the first Google result for their name for speaking about Palestinians or being Palestinian, for them to have a thing where it shows their side of what the truth was. Does that creep into like, so that's something that you have to think about when you are representing yourself online? Or have you been able to just sort of...

I'm so much more insulated from it just because I have these platforms. I have these opportunities to talk about it and even the score and show what happened. But yeah, I don't think about it too much. Plus, I just make sure I foolproof my life. Like if I join an organization, I have to make sure the board,

you know, knows and is cool. Like surprise if I join a campaign, I have to be like, hey, this might come up and then, you know, really get like buy-in for there. But it's a lot easier for me. That's wild. What is something you think is overrated. Oh. Like that. I like that, bro. I'm going to start with underrated, right? All right. Yeah, go with that. So underrated.

People who are two-faced are underrated. Sometimes one face is good and the other face is better, right? Why can't it be that? Why is it always bad? I'm staring at you guys in Gemini right now pleading with you that being two-faced is underrated. Yeah. Oh, so what's a euphemism? If you would give a new word for two-faced, to kind of have it encapsulate what you're talking about, what would you call it? Like presentational flexibility? Dynamism?

You call it squad. You got a squad with you. It's amazing. It's powerful. You're like, oh, you don't want me to call my homies up. That's me. Let me do a quick spin. And I'm here. What's up, motherfucker? You're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. We roll deep.

Because I pull up. What's something you think is overrated? This is a controversial one. Okay. Lin-Manuel Miranda is overrated. Wow. Okay, go on. His raps are corny he supported bad like

colonialist things in puerto rico called promessa the austerity stuff and hamilton glorified bad things but i'm not gonna lie it was good and i spent a lot of time and money to see the show it was actually really brilliant but you gotta you know here's one line that i found bust my flow because the flow is lethal it's called in the heights and life is sweet yo and in the heights is genius like it's one of the most beautiful things i you should see the movie and whoever saw the play when it existed you're just like ridiculously genius but you can't be good at everything right it's not like you're gonna get like real bars out of him you can't you can't like be at everything right it's not like you're gonna get like real bars out of him you can't you can't like be able to write all these songs and do these arrangements

and have fucking bars too yeah and not sell out your own people but also this is puerto rican family business and i'm not puerto rican hey jay-z, yeah. You know, he had bars and sold people. Fuck the culture out. So it can happen. Jay-Z could do it. Jay could do it. I feel like the zeitgeist is sort of with you on that. It's coming around on Lin-Manuel Miranda being a little bit overrated at this point. Or just being like, if i see him show up on another like i don't know award ceremony or something like it's just his his whole vibe is i think

maybe worn thin on some people now i want to see dark miranda emerge yeah dark lynn see what that looks like with the laser eyes that's right what would that look like the world will be my stage all right actually we have super producer becca who has a lot of thoughts that we've talked to her about before with regards to Lin-Manuel Miranda. Becca, welcome to the show. This is your 10 minutes. Let us know any for your thoughts.

I used to be like a huge fan of his. As a music theater nerd and as a Puerto Rican, I, in a Hamilton stand when it originally came out, right? I was like bootlicking, right? I loved it. I mean, I went to Baylor, you know, like my, my polysci teacher was like, Hamilton's the best thing to ever happen. And then I watched Hamilton and I was like, wow, oh my God.

You know, I was different mindset in 2016. Okay. But now as someone who like lives in New York, who volunteers at a Latinx collective bookstore in Bushwick and has become more involved in my own Puerto Rican heritage and the Latino slash Puerto Rican community in New York, I definitely feel some type of way about his nonprofit work in Puerto Rico, especially as someone who isn't from the island. There's a lot of tension between like New Eurekans and, you know, islander Puerto Ricans. And some of it's unjust, you know, some of it's defensive, but some of it is very just like Puerto Ricans in New York. Some of them have never been to Puerto Rico and they truly do not know what's going on over there. And they do have so much pride as they should, but they aren't involved in the policy work or really in the history or education of what's going on. And I think it can be very invasive when New Yorkians go to Puerto Rico and start enacting bootlicking policies, so to speak, that are like, you know, pseudo helpful, but aren't actually listening to the people of Puerto Rico and like what their needs are.

So, yeah, I feel like he's like a fallen hero of mine. Like I was it's like never meet your hero. It's not that I've ever met him, but it definitely feels like I'm like, oh, my God. Like I he's doing it for, you know, like for the Puerto Rican people. And then you just kind of like dig one step deeper and you're kind of like, I don't know. And especially who is that for? Yeah, especially after like I think my bubble was burst when in the heights movie came out because like it was such a departure from the beauty that was the original musical like

i can still talk about scenes from seeing the original musical and cry because it was like my first real representation of like my family on screen like the mom in the original musical sounds and like looks like my mom and i like cried i was like wow i've never seen somebody look like my mom and sound like her because she sounds like a new yorican and because she grew up between new york and puerto rico she's born on the island but the musical was like such a hollywood scapegoat like it was like oh i got big budget money and I'm going to just say yes to every director note that was ever given to me. And it was just such a sad, like, I feel like waste of what the original art of that piece was, which was like a homage to a community that is gentrifying. Like, that is still a story that can be told today.

And the way they changed the musical was like so nasty in the movie. I digress. So, yeah, I agree with lola miranda overrated i'm sad to say that he is overrated because i was such a fan and now i'm like why can we have any good heroes i'm like the next to fall from grace is i don't want you're not gonna want alexander cortez you know like it's like it's like every single one has fallen a little bit You know, I really feel like I never have something good We can never have a full, you know, all of our heroes are fought like I don't I mean Mark Anthony

I'm notorious for you know, it's just like there's so many right? I guess we have a I mean and Rita Moreno said some color shit you know, it's like I guess we have um Who do we have rosie perez like i'm like heat it yeah exactly rosie and denzel yeah there you go there you go tom hanks maybe tom hanks i don't know but his son maybe he's booked to change that i don't know did we all see elvis i watched it this weekend el Elvis was wild. Wild performance. Have fun. Thanks, guys.

All right. Thanks, Becca. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.

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And we're back. And school just got a lot easier holy it would be too easy yeah look so there's a new ai that helps write essays and i just want to say look when i were a boy you know i spent a lot of time trying to not do a lot of school work so i could just be outside having fun and fucking around so that would manifest into me being like what's this test oh that teacher's old i know how to fucking cheat on those tests i'll buy all the fucking old tests from the people two classes above me who saved everything and it was like this is like a commodity in my high school they're like yo you got his tests and somebody would have them each year you could be like i'm sorry homie this is 200 right here if this is this is it this is the whole year you

don't have to do shit so anyway back then it was like old scantrons or like you could see an old quiz to get a level up like as a studying guide but now you know things were very lo-fi back then but now because of all of this fucking technology, we are now looking at students being able to write whole fucking essays by sending like by feeding this AI just by giving it a sentence or two. And these programs allow students to create entirely new fucking essays that can't like traditionally you could be like you feed it through a plagiarism detection service or whatever software. you could be like you'd feed it through a plagiarism detection service or whatever software and it would try and find some similarities and be like ah this is this other thing that's on the internet with this because it's wholly new work it completely can sidestep a lot of those things that are in the like plagiarism detection software and it's pretty sophisticated it's taking your style like your writing style and the information you've provided is it using is it going out

researching i even did a thing where i put it you know how you see the doc you know my writing style like it's very conversational i i all caps shit out of nowhere for like emphasis it's like in my own head and i put that in there and it kind of gave me back like a flippant story about donald trump and his legal team like not giving a fuck about the legal process it wasn't like it didn't it didn't have like swag but you could tell it was trying to do something so in that sense i'm like okay if you're very if you're a very creative writer your your shit is still safe um but i just want to show you so there is this article in jacobin about uh how trader joe's is also starting to union bus right now because

they are they are fucking you know they're looking at starbucks and they're like all right homies we know we know the play right here is to illegally bust these fucking unions so this is the this is the first two sentences from this jacobin article quote trader joe's workers in minnesota minneapolis won their union in a landslide vote august 12th making theirs the second store to go with the new independent Trader Joe's United. The win raises the question of whether the grocer, with its 530 locations and progressive image, could be the next Starbucks. So I just put that into the fucking machine. It gave me back two more paragraphs, but I'm just going to read you the first paragraph and a half. So this is how it wants to continue what we just fed it. And that's no small feat. Last year, Starbucks baristas notched a huge victory when the coffee chain agreed to pay higher wages and give workers a say over the chain's social media policies.

But unlike Starbucks, which is a global chain with thousands of locations, Trader Joe's only has about 15% of the grocery market, reports the Los Angeles Times. Standalone, non-unionized shops are actually more common with the grocer which has opened about 50 shops in cities over the last year that's fucking ai that just kept going with that and granted it's also like analysis yeah that stuff's all true they aren't just making that up they're like pulling that off the internet where what's the input from other articles and it will even tell you where it pulls from wow and you can and you can alter shit too right like you can dumb your shit down so let's say you know obviously uh you know an article like that is probably not for mrs schultz sixth grade english class but like if

you wanted to you could put in a very very simple like, like, dry explanation of the themes in the Disney film Toy Story, and it will come back to you with about the same level of, like, rhetorical style. It's over. School is over. I don't know. I think you could turn that Jacobin thing into Miss Schultz, and she'd just be like, whoa!

Damn! Okay. Alright. I'm going to get in touch with Columbia's journalism school. I'm going to get in touch with Columbia's journalism school. I was passing love letters and being a class clown. So I'm like thinking now, like, how would AI would have helped me? Right. Probably like I would pass a note to someone and she'd be like, she opens it up and reads it and says like, wherefore art thou, Jessica Rodriguez? What light from your school desk breaks? Here, Raph, right now, give me like two sentences from a Raph in sixth grade love letter

and we'll let this shit continue. Let it cook. Dear, what? What's her name? Jessica, you said? Oh man, Jessica Rodriguez. My God. I still think about her.

Dear Jessica, what would you say? I have a crush on you. Are we allowed? Yeah. I'm like 15 year old self allowed are we allowed 15 year old self allowed to think about 15 year old we'll just say Jessica dear Jessica

I have a crush on you there's like 17,000 Jessica Rodriguez I have a crush on you you are the most beautiful student at school. It was funny, too. She was so funny. And you are so funny.

I'm just going to give it that. Dear Jessica, I have a crush on you. You're the most beautiful student at school, and you are so funny. It's going to continue with, drumroll please, you cheer me up when i am sad i hope you can like me sean showed the card to my mother and she said okay now it's getting wow all right it just got real aggressive started writing like details into your life oh so now it's doing a story it said so you said you're just got a crush on you you're so funny then said would you ever go out with me whoa but then it said suzy's heart starts beating faster. She thinks for a moment

and then writes, Dear Mark, thanks for the nice poem. Yours to task. You know, eventually they're going to monetize this and there'll be like an ad in it. Like Jessica,

you may also be in need of a 20% discount. Right, right, right. Just shifted to fiction. But OK, so on one hand, it might seem like that is the AI breaking down.

On the other hand, it could be a brilliant hedge where that just comes up in the middle of the thing and so if jessica is like nah you're like no i was just showing you a short story i wrote why are you acting like i meant this that's kind of ai is the ultimate wingman yeah like four-dimensional chess so this is kind of like brought up a whole debate with educators because they're like what the fuck are we supposed to do like do we shift policies now to say like using ai is against the fucking ethos of this school fuck around with it and if we find out you will find out as well but then they're like we also don't want to put it in students heads that this is a normal shit that

they can start using then other people are like well what are the limits right because people use spell spell check or other like sort of like uh smart tools that help with people's writing and there's already ai that detects plagiarism so this is this is just the latest salvo in the arms war between students and teachers. Because the old school way was you feed your shit to the plagiarism thing and then you swag up every sentence. So now it's not going to hit anymore on that. That was like, I think, the way to grind it out using this kind of shit back in the day. But now we're looking at just here's three topics. I need, you know, it's about these.

If you like, if the first paragraph is succinct enough, it can kind of know where you're headed. Maybe this is the new phase of education because you have the article generated, but then you have to go and fact check the article that was generated for you. So you go and read the entire L.A. Times article to make sure that it's giving an accurate. Go and read the entire LA Times article to make sure that it's giving an accurate. So it's just basically generating research work for you without doing the writing. The newest kind of curriculum and education through Common Core, because I have a kid, and it is to not just go and find facts and regurgitate them, but to actually be a journalist and get multiple sources around places and actually report back on what society was thinking at that moment, what were the opposing

viewpoints. So I could see a creative kind of curriculum that can kind of pull this in, but it's still pretty frightening. Right. And that's the other thing educators are asking themselves. It's like, you know, some people are like, well, maybe the way we're educating kids needs to change if it's as simple as feeding an AI. And we need to think a little bit more with our brains here to find new ways to begin to say, OK, this assignment means you have actually understood the curriculum. Like how to operate in a new world. Right. that's what we're trying to educate them for so you're they better know how to plagiarize with ai yeah you're a step behind yeah yeah i

mean the new common core shit is really messing me i'm in the midst of a massive cover-up with my six-year-old is trying to is going through files trying to prove that santa claus doesn't exist and it's yeah they call it uh the right calls it comic core which is really funny what do you mean everyone in the country has to learn the same thing but then i get yeah i mean i i wonder i'm trying to think of what i mean look i'm not an educator so i'm there's no way I could have a constructive idea to how they navigate this. But it does feel like, yeah, I guess if it is that easy to just merely say, OK, you want me to write something? Watch this. Then what is that next step?

I know plenty of educators listening to the show. Please let me know. Are y'all worried? Right. Is everything changing so rapidly or like that's the least of their problems right now? Is everything changing so rapidly or like that's the least of their problems right now? Yeah. Like, dude, if they use this, I'm just trying to picture a way to take this into account and still have them learn, you know, because that that is if if it's doing a good job of sourcing the articles, that is a way of finding articles, you know, that are relevant to the subject that you're talking about right that is just easier right so that but you do have to fact check them i guess there's this other social thing that's going to occur i imagine because it what are what's the algorithm what is

it doing how is it weighing what it's finding if just something is repeated enough on on large accounts does that make it true sure you know and now it's just regurgitating things just because very powerful sites or entities kind of repeated the same thing. I know Amazon, I work opposing Amazon, they know that local journalists are really on a shoestring budget and they don't have time. So they send them canned reports and canned footage and it makes it, and then they report it out. Like, it's almost like you spoke yesterday about propaganda. It's also like this corporate ganda where they just make it look like

they were inside this Amazon facility and everyone loves working there and everyone's fine. When really they just regurgitated something written for them and, you know, played a video that was given to them. Right, because it's a cheap way to generate what appears to be objective reporting. regurgitated something written for them and you know played a video that was given to them right because it's a cheap way to generate what what appears to be objective reporting so it's basically doing the exact same thing yeah this is going to have impact that way i think it's going to start the echo chamber is going to be on steroids yeah i just while i was just tinkering with the toys

and this ai because you could have it do different styles. You're like, yo, I want something fantastical, upbeat, authoritative, conflictive, sensual, romantic. I switched your line to romantic and said, dear Jessica, I have a crush on you. You're the most beautiful student at school and you are so funny. I don't know if you feel the same way about me, but I just wanted to let you know how I feel. I hope you have a great day. Sincerely, your secret admirer. Get the fuck out of here. Nailed it. I mean, they nailed it. Fucking killed it.

They provided emotional transparency, emotional maturity to... I mean, right. And then they were like, his Netflix Quay matches 76% yours. Please subscribe for a 20% discount. So, yes.

Oh, man. Just shows you. Rocky Road. Rocky Road rocky road ahead can you imagine because then i also see like a version two or like every you know like men are so fucking bad at expressing themselves they start relying on ai and shit just to fucking stop talking right yeah we're absolutely we're absolutely that just proves we're absolutely just like the curriculum is obsolete. Yeah. This episode is brought to you by a recurring segment brought to you by Rocky Road ice cream from Haagen-Dazs. It's the Rocky Road evidence of a rocky road ahead. And what goes better with Rocky Road than some delicious Rocky Road ice cream? Yeah. And they use 100% organic dairy cream.

So, you know, shout out them. Shout out the sponsors for this week's Rocky Road. This week's Rocky Road is brought to you by... Easy fact, yeah. I can only hear it in Bill Simmons' voice every time there's like a branded segment. Anyways, Republicans, not quite sure to campaign. I think they have figured out what not to campaign on. Yeah.

But they don't have anything to really replace it. Speaking of AI. Yeah. If you fed all the GOP talking points from 2009, fuck it, even before, from the 90s to today, and you asked it to create a sentence, it would say, Obamacare is bad. Healthcare should be replaced with guns. Abortion is the worst thing to ever happen. And that's all they're consistent with. That's quite simply the few things they've been really consistent on. And again, these aren't the words

of a party that are interested in trying to lead the country into some positive future, obviously, but we already knew that. But when you couple that with like the results in recent special elections, especially since the Dobbs decision, and you look that you have a group of people that are trying to figure out like a thing they can talk about that won't be spectacularly unpopular. Right. You know, so many of the Republicans now that, you know, that are trying to make a red wave this November, we talked about another candidate who completely sanitized his website. It's like, oh, boy, I've never heard of nothing about forced birth.

Never known. Don't tell me about that. Don't go on the Wayback Machine either or the Internet Archive and see an old cached version of this website that says the opposite. But many of the Kill Obamacare crowd have had to pivot to well i'm definitely into protections for pre-existing conditions i mean let me get that much straight at a minimum and like the forced birth fanatics are also have not said a single thing out loud in public and it's just odd you know well look aca has become more and more popular over the years and simply trying to use like racist dog whistles like Obamacare like are no longer connecting.

And we've yet to see anything resembling what a Republican health care policy would look like. But we don't have to guess. It would just be all privatized everything. I mean, and then it's like, I don't know. Did you ask Jeff Bezos, you know, if you deserve more hypodermic needles? Yeah. Your physical brought to you by Amazon and provided by Amazon.

Yeah, like in the middle of the eye test, you got to watch a fucking trailer for Lord of the Rings and shit. You're like, what the fuck? They're like, okay, who do you see? I don't know. 90% of people with bad vision love this movie. But like a few consultants on that side, they've've all said we really got to steer the conversation

back to gas prices and inflation but the main issue for voters as we've seen in like a lot of the just anyone ask around going into november seems to be all about health care and abortion a realm where they are just epically unfit to discuss with non-ghou type people so it's like i mean i get that the voter suppression shit is probably going to be on their side in certain instances but it it's it's just interesting to watch like them be like fuck man we've been saying this shit for so long now most people are like actually i i would like to have like i would like to not go bankrupt because i have diabetes right and they're like shit um okay let's just shut the fuck up about it right and you know yes allow the opponents to

create the conversation the worst part of that is that the more republicans do that the more democrats feel they have they don't have to do anything exactly it's so by then like he campaigned on canceling like all of student debt he just gestures yeah and then the average is like thirty three thousand dollars and now you know now it's like yeah let me take that back uh how about how about we wet your beak a little bit yeah right exactly it's like i might you guys might be desperate enough i could get i could get through to 2024 off this shit too. I don't want to give y'all everything. I went back to the boss and they couldn't really figure out that number. Yeah.

Right. By the way, that eviction protection thing. Yeah. Let's get rid of that. Right. It seems like everybody is waking up to the fact that they are in favor of leftist policies that are helpful to the vast majority of people.

But they again, there is an allergy to being at least self-consciously socialist, like being conscious that you that you support a leftist policy. How right wingers actually get away with calling Biden and the centrist Wall Street Democrats left because that erases the left. Because if the left was platformed in any way in this country, there would be a lot. We would resonate with a lot of people because we would be talking about material needs that appeal to basically everybody. People's ears would be smoking and their TVs would explode.

Well, actually, there is a, we've mentioned before, there is a movement in the Democratic Party to offer an alternative. I don't know. Third party. Well, I guess it's both parties coming together to offer a different option. That is the Andrew Yang. We the whatever party, the whatever. The the Democrats are too far left party.

So the last time I was here, I spoke about Yang when he was running for mayor of New York. And we were talking about how awful it would be to hire the AI president who was still modeling how to pick up a banana. That's right. How to buy a banana and what a bodega is. Oh, man. When we criticized that, he immediately, like a few hours later, corrected just like an AI would and went and actually found a real bodega and was like, I am now in a bodega. Yeah. Hilarious.

Nice try. I am in a bodega now. Y'all have loose Newports or not in here, my guy. What the fuck? I guess for a loose Newport fuck localized just sent it into the AI

it's so funny that that keeps coming back and getting people is just the inability to shop in grocery stores to even like exist in a grocery store is this kind of clean slate that he wants to present and like they're presenting this party the forward party as the forward party that's right sorry it's not left

it's not right it's forward forward what else do we have to explain doesn't mean anything so what are the policies on the left that you're too critical of well so the thing you have to understand is we're not left and we're not right. We're forward. That's the only time I've heard. The only problem is every single person behind it is a right winger, either a Trump right winger or a neocon like warmonger from the Iraq era, from the Bush era, from the Bloomberg era stuff like all of them. One hundred percent. There's one governor, Christy Todd Whitman. governor christy todd whitman she was infamous for stopping a black new jersey and on the street with police with state troopers so that she could get a photo op of herself risking him wow you know like these are the type of the people who fought health care for fought right abortion rights

fought everything and now they're they're like cosplaying as the thing in order to siphon off and i've seen like i actually have this mixed kind of relationship with yang supporters a lot of them are new to politics and they he kind of makes sense to someone who's just like peeking in it's like oh logical he's gonna right right gonna be organized yeah we have the same thing during the election a lot of people were like, you actually need to give think many of them are. I think they're actually just low information and just getting in. And there's a great opportunity to really just be like, okay, that's how you want to talk. Let me bullet point this for you. And I've had a lot of success, a lot of success with that. Right. And it's because, I mean, it's so vague. Everything's so vague that I think it probably does act as like a Rorschach test for like someone who's newly engaging with politics where you might come like, I don't know, both of the main parties seem dumb.

And this one, what's their like their the sense, like the first the landing page after years of working in parallel to unite Americans and strengthen our democracy, the forward party, the Renew America movement and the Serve America movement are pleased to announce the formal merge of our three organizations. We are coming together from across the political spectrum to build a new and transformational American political party. Blah, blah, blah. Operating under one name forward. I mean, again, I think what this is, it's that the smart Republicans are like, bro, this brand is getting toxic. And you need to find a way to get some people that are gonna not go full left but give them something that sounds fucking flowery but we'll give them fuck all in the end but we need to message shit differently because simply going out here and be like gay people are bad health care's fucked up fuck poor people they're like that shit is not working it's not 1970 anymore

well yeah i'd be surprised if yang people who supported gang in the last election are still about this shit like this feels like a less of a thing where he's moving his people into this category more where he moved in and i'd be surprised if anybody follows him if they are truly just i don't see the same argument i don't see the same energy yeah it feels like a thing a party that is purely motivated to get the new york times to write pieces about it setting the new york times up because it's all based on mainstream media both sides ism and the stuff that like doesn't actually exist to voters or really matter to voters. And it's, there's just no support.

Not only is there no support for their policies, there are no policies for their party. Like, they don't really have anything they're willing to say out loud, I guess. A lot of policies of their, yeah, their founders. Another one is Barbara Comstock. She was the one that said, we should build a wall in front of Canada, too, and

we should track immigrants and migrants like FedEx packages. Her words. Amazing. Shit. It goes real deep. The amount of Republican funding, the Trumpism. That guy who wrote that. All these anonymous figures that were in the White House that became whistleblowers.

Right. Only when, not when it mattered, but when they could sell a book. They waited to when they could sell a book. I'm sorry, but one of them is called Miles. Yeah, I know. Taylor. He's anonymous. Yeah.

And he's part of it too. It's just like, if it was a real movement, they wouldn't have merged with these other things. Yeah, they just knew the brand was fucked up. They just like, yo, we got to rebrand this shit, man. Right. And they're going to split the vote. did that in new york just now they got a congress member probably daniel goldman this like billionaire heir to the levi strauss fortune and they they basically he bought a congressional seat so far and that was based on splitting the vote the progressive vote

um and just you know pandering pretending you're you're a Democrat. Oh, so he actually used this forward party to get elected? No, just like the same formula. Okay, got it, got it. You know, we're the reasonable people in the middle. Got it. Yeah. I mean, that's been working since Clintonian triangulation. And I forget, there's this guy who ran for president against Trump and was kind of a centrist. Oh, Joe Biden. Joe Biden doesn't doesn't actually support any progressive policies.

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slop with no crust for $7.99. It took me 12 Papa Bowls to get one dad bod. They are redeemable for one dad bod. So Papa and Co. I don't know how you refer to Papa John's. Yeah, I'm sure it's like Tiffany's. Right, right.

So they've decided that they're just trying to get or they've decided that the way they're going to angle this is they're just trying to get people excited about pizza again since their sales were somewhat stagnant i mean i've been in meetings where where the the boss tells us that we have no more health insurance but because they brought pizza everyone's happy right no one pizza has not lost excitement at all nor are the sales diminishing pizza sales are projected to grow by 5.3 percent in 2022 which so it seems like more the problem might be with papa john's and their answer is to remove the crust and shove the remaining ingredients into a disposable container. It really feels like a...

I think the reason I can't quit this story is just it truly feels like a dystopic, like a step towards a dystopic future where we just get our little individual plastic meal trays that come to us and we consume everything in plastic meal trays. Yeah. I mean, I think the one thing consistently we always hear is that this isn't for this for people who are eating keto. Right. You know, it's the only time you're like, now fuck everything else on the pizza. I just want to fuck the non bread part. So I get that there there's they must see some segment there. But on the other part of it too, my first instinct is like, God, I mean, like, why do I feel like there's a darker story here?

Like, listen, Bill, we cut down too many trees for pizza boxes and pumped too much carbon with deliveries. So now with climate change, we don't have grains. We're soon, we will not have grains. Oh, they're trying to wean us off grain because of the fucking war in Ukraine. Let's make pizza sexy again without grain. Yeah, they're like, fuck bread. We don't need grain, right? But you know someone was like, what are we going to put the food on? And then they're like, what about plastic climate-destroying bowls? Right.

Learning nothing. That's what the Washington Post reviewed the product and called it a pantry dump and a lot of packaging. So apparently the packaging is not insignificant. There's a lot of it. Yeah. It's not sustainable or unsustainable. It's forward packaging. It's forward.

Exactly. Right. Look, you just take a consensus. Common consensus is going to dictate what we put the popables in. Okay. Popables. Sounds so gross. If you think that sounds bad.

And so this is another indication that this is led by necessity. I think you're definitely on to something. Call me when someone, record, some record producer sells them. I love it when you call me big popable. Yeah. So I could just like, I don't't know start making molotov cocktails out of them i mean justin you got that that's my that's my aka for tomorrow by the way justin uh just you can you can just grab that recording super producer justin uh but the other so the the other

part of this that suggests that it is need-based to me and we've seen by the way we've seen things that are you know moves within the fast food industry that are controlled not by what they would you know what they would seem for instance there was a bunch of excess cheese or milk fat in a cave at the beginning of the 80s because people had switched to skim milk from whole milk. And we've talked about this before, but that they basically could get cheese really cheaply. And that's how our pizzas got so much more cheesy than they were heading into the 80s. Era of the great cheese surplus.

Right. But it's done to us. There's another one of these, subway no bready bowls and have we figured out if that is a play on anything i remember i thought it was like betty by was the the only thing yeah no i remember i just rejected that yeah that's all i could come up with and like again something that suggests that they started at the assumption of we have to cram ingredients into people's mouths with no bread and then, you know, worked backwards from that because these products are not marketing master strokes, to say the least. They're pretty just meat piled on top of meat in abject defiance of all that's good and pure in the world they won't even do us the service of pressing it into a shape like they do in every dystopian

future movie right right like where's your here's your nutrition puck here's some pork shavings right it was always wasn't always like biscuits or you know just a disc of green something or other with the thing that we missed out on is that they can't quit the packaging the packaging is is good for business so it's all about the bowls yeah i mean i the thing is like i used to eat like low carb right where i would say like yeah like if i go to chipotle like give me the burrito bowl or whatever. And I liked that you could get, but that still made sense in my mind. I was like, yeah, this is just, this is like when you eat a burrito all sloppy and the shit just fell on the

plate and you got to eat it with a fork at the end. But with some of these, I'm like, even, and I even asked like people who I know are do keto and stuff. They're like, I'd rather make my own food. They like that there are options, right? So when you go out and everybody wants to disrespect themselves with some Papa John's, you're like, I guess I have to participate in this terrible act and I'll get a bready, whatever the fuck, a Papa bowl. But on the other hand, I think like other times too, that most people I know, they like to make their own food.

And I just, I'd rather make that thing. I'd rather make my friends to an my friends to dinner at Papa John's. Is that even an option? Is it possible to sit down at a Papa John's? I think so, right? I've never seen one that has seating. If you're nodding out, go in there. Get the floor.

That's the time I see people eating there. Duncan has a breakfast bowl, KFC originated it with. And this is another indicator that this is not a health conscious thing. The first thing that KFC bowl, which I did partake in and thought was pretty delicious, was the highest calorie item on the menu. It was really just about the platform. Yeah, right. Because that was the one I think what the hat like the base was mac and cheese i'm like this ain't no card oh my god this is like fuck my life up please

colonel the one that i had had corn mashed potatoes chicken strips i think and then popcorn chicken it would be popcorn chicken popcorn. And it used gravy like it was milk in cereal. It was just so aggressive. Moisten up those popcorn chickens, baby. It's weird how we're less offended when they just take it completely overboard. Right. Talk about KFC. We're just like, okay, we get you.

You're sort of ridiculing it. And profiting. But Papa John's just seems different. It seems like they think they're onto something there's also something they seem to be serving it in a lean cuisine frozen dinner dish which is also i i just feel like gives it a weird vibe like makes me remember the least happy meals of my life and that i think that's what is making it stick out is that they are publicizing something that should be a dark secret if they if they want to make this dad too like you know yeah some of our dads made us that because they didn't want to cook for us yeah there's like a lot of trauma in these bowls really for me come to

come to struggling single dad's pizza. So that is a question I had is why are they publicizing this? Why not just make it another option? It looks like shit, so you wouldn't want to plaster it everywhere. But people think that the widespread internet mockery may be good for business, giving the bowls free publicity. Makes sense, because I feel like the flow has been people who don't eat low carb go what the fuck is this and every person who does goes hold on i would eat they're like when you go who the fuck would eat this then people go uh me yeah and they're like oh shit yeah they're polarizing yeah to create a new class yeah it is smart marketing i mean i think

this is the forward party of fast food offerings. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because it gets people talking. If you're a low information eater, you're going to be like. We just got to bullet point these things for these people. I think this bowl just needs its milk. I think this bowl just needs its milk.

And that milk should be the garlic sauce. They used to come with Papa John's pizzas. Wait, they don't come with it anymore? Oh, maybe they do. I haven't had Papa John's pizza in over a decade. Yeah. It's been a long time. Well, Raph, it's been truly a pleasure having you,

as always. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Rafael Shimanoff on Twitter. I'm starting a podcast with a friend, you know, to quench the desert of podcasts out there with another podcast besides this one. I didn't even know there was such a thing. We're going to double the podcast out there.

Those people were serious when they said they were making podcasts? Yeah. Oh, shit. My friend Ember Olam and I are doing a thing called Here for the Ratio. And we're going to dissect sort of things where people got ratioed, but try to be like restorative and fair and just be like, hey, man, why are you all piling up on this person? This is all a misunderstanding.

But also like, oh, yeah, this is a terrible person. We should pile up on them more. But there's generally like this exciting idea about just going deep with these with these internet dramas. That sounds amazing. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Social media. Oh, yes. So I've been loving this Twitter account called Union Drip. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What was it called it was called yeah union drip if you go there and they recently they basically showcase kind of like good fits like amazing things and right now chris smalls from amazon labor yeah part of it because he's always has it but they also go around the country and people suggest to them and it's great but during labor day they re-upped one of these old videos by a labor union.

And I just, oh, my God, I wish everyone was able to hear it. Oh, you're about to. The classic fucking ask me, ask me ad is, oh, my God. Okay, here we go. And I'm sure, look. Oh, so it's a music video with a song that they've. No, no, it's like a, just watch. So it's basically, you're going to see a bunch of slice-of-life moments.

Just picture a bunch of stock footage of garbage people, construction, sanitation workers, people who work at the park just to kind of show you the people who are part of Ask Me. This is from 1982, I would guess. Or probably, yeah, early 80s, late 70s.

...a way to work them out. Instead of sitting around with your finger up your ass, look around. There's a union out there 1982, I would guess. Or early 80s, late 70s. It'll keep your kids from getting run over by some hard-on. We plug up the holes in the road so you don't fuck up your car. We push around a lot of little old ladies from Florida. We're out there zapping rats and roaches and making sure your kids don't drink piss from no fucking water. We're fucking ass amalgamated federalization. Hey, I don't know what the fuck it means. All I know is we're hard-working taxpaying people like you

and we don't take shit from nobody. You got that asshole? Ask me. The fucking union that works for you. It's so good. It's also good. Classic. It's also funny because it sounds like the guy from NPR car talk.

Right. Fucking garbage. Fucking garbage. Beautiful. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray. If you like basketball, check us out on Miles and Jack got mad boosties.

And if you like reality TV like I do, check me out on 420 Day Fiance. That's another podcast I do with Sophia Alexandra. Let's see. Some tweets I like. First one, at femaleredhead tweeted, oh, your boyfriend's a doctor? Well, my boyfriend is now the coach of an imaginary football team for the next four months. There's another one from Alyssa Obertas. At Astro Alyssa tweeted, some Lord of the Rings fans.

This is supposed to be medieval Europe. Why are there black people? Me. Why are there potatoes? Love that. The Columbian Exchange, baby. That's amazing. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.

I'm just going to go with the fantasy football one. Miles just did. That's great. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes.

Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy? Oh, you might like this track. This feels like very West Coast. This is from Monopoly, mono slash poly. You might know some of his work from Brain Theater. We've done a couple of tracks from them.

I forget when but anyway this is from uh one of the early release the manifestations ep it's called needs deodorant and i guess i bet you can guess why this track might need deodorant because it's so fucking funky you don't know what the fuck to do when you listen to it and it feels like if like jeep like when i listen to this song i picture if there if like blade runner took place in compton because it has like this future like lowrider like fucking g funk shit going on but it feels futuristic so i'm like whoo in my mind i see like this like hood in the future film that's so dope anyway needs deodorant monopoly yeah well

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