The Daily Zeitgeist - AirBNB= Horror Movie Villain, LA Politicians = Real Movie Villains

Episode Date: October 12, 2022

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consciousness, and it is Wednesday, October 12th, 2022 10 12 2 2 10 12 big buddy you know what that means it is national farmers day national gumbo day oh shit shut up gumbo national savings day national vermont day national bring your teddy bear to work or school day i don't know about that national curves day national emergency nurses day national fossil fossil day i almost said fossil fuels pardon Pardon my habit there. National Stop Bullying Day, National Take Your Parents to Lunch Day. I mean, what better fossils are there than the

fuels that run our country? Or your parents that you can take to lunch. That's true. True also. I do not have my teddy bear here today, but I am assuming my four-year-old will be partaking in that one. Is this the teddy bear industrial complex but i am assuming my four-year-old will be partaking in that one the teddy bear industrial complex trying to be like hey man it's all good you can bring this

shit to work too right just for kids yeah hey hey to you bring them to work i guess bring them out love it well anyways my name is jack o'brien aka give me the gist of it and please explain. Ain't got time to spend deciphering. Look at this all sprawl. I'm about to bawl. This writer, though, couldn't be better. I had to go Adam Sandler voice for that one to make it work in my head. That is courtesy of Radio Giorgio. That is the letter by the Box Tops, which is a song I knew, but I didn't know about it. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! I said, Jack, you're eating stale candy. You need to freshie. A freshie, freshie-ee.

Caramel needs to be chewy. You need to eat a freshie A freshie, freshie See, it's hard for me to do the sort of callback And the fresh and so fresh and so clean chorus there When it's just one voice But you got what I was trying to say Like I said, with candies

You can't be eating stale candy You need a freshie Shout out to Fighter of the Nightman Working on it Outcast inspired, AK Have you had it? Yeah, I mean, look A fresh Charleston Chew,

it'll do something to you. And fresh Twix. I'm in, I'm in the world where my Twix are so old that they have the consistency of Charleston Chew. So I need, I need help. But apparently, yeah,

if you get a fresh Charleston Chew, it makes all the difference. It does. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very funny comedian and podcaster who you can hear on the rhythm and bay podcast and her stand-up albums trash baby and one of npr's best stand-up albums of last year nobody's queen it's jasmine ellen hi hey welcome welcome welcome thank you thank you for having me y'all i'm

excited oh it's good to have you. Good to have you. You're in LA by way of Texas? Mm-hmm. Yep. Okay. I'm from Dallas, Texas. Moved here from Austin, Texas in September 2020.

Oh, wow. Okay. Damn. So you moved in the pandemic. Okay. People, I get that reaction so hard. Yeah. It always cracks me up because y'all, okay, that's very LA of you.

Because for the rest of the country we were like we shut down for four or five months and then the government was like hey go back to your job or you like where the unemployment's cut off you don't get to sit at home right right so then my my lease goes up like like there's no rent control in texas so your landlord can just be like hey we decided to double your rent. Some, you know, Elon Musk is missing moving tech people here and we'd rather they live here. Okay. So I had a friend who had a place in LA and I was like, you know what, if the rent's going to be the same anyway, I've always wanted to, you know, try it out and see what standup was like here. And also like, I really genuinely thought that like, we were going to get the vaccine, get a handle on it.

There wasn't going to be any, like, there was a lot of news that made it look like 2020 was going to be the end. So I thought I was just getting in on a good deal on some rent. And then I was going to get to enjoy a pandemic free 2021. I thought I was just, no, I didn't, it didn't feel like the middle. I thought it was the beginning of the end. Yeah. No, I didn't. It didn't feel like the middle. I thought it was the beginning of the end. Yeah. For me, my shock was more of like the effort that it takes to move, not even when it happened. I was like, man, because the idea of packing shit, especially like I can't even move across town.

So I give it up to people who are moving across the country to places. I'm like, wow. I'm also I think it just makes me realize I'm very lazy. So I appreciate that about you and your ability to move because you have dreams. It is you know, it's not as hard as it looks. You just kind of go like, what do I really care about? You load it up in a car and you just drive. Yeah, I like the answer better when people are like, it's the hardest thing in the world because that makes me feel better because moving is very hard for for me but yeah it can it can be easy if you're if you're good at prioritizing and doing things like that how have you how have you found los angeles oh god i hate when people ask me this question because i especially are you guys native la i'm local yeah i'm local i'm not yeah okay okay then i can say i'm a local i'm local scumbag it's okay. I'm not. Yeah. Okay. Okay, then I can say. I'm a transplant. I'm a local.

I'm a local scumbag. It's okay. Go ahead. Say whatever you want. I don't care. There's a lot of things I hate. But there's so many things I hate. And my list of things I hate is too long.

And it makes Los Angelinos just be like, fuck you then. Go back home. No more children. You know what? If you ain't got no money, take your broke ass home. I'm like, I don't have any money. You're absolutely right. And my landlord is charging me a first and a last and i'm not gonna get my deposit back so i can't take my broadcast home i'm just right okay yeah i'll

bet it all i've bet it all it's just it's so expensive to breathe here yeah and for no reason the amount of time sometimes i'll i have the money for something but it's just so i mean granted this is also inflation yeah sometimes i'll just be in the grocery store like eight dollars for grapes you know what i don't even want food anymore like i'm just right mad all the time yeah and that's before the tequila as dr oz so so brilliantly put it you know the crew to find your crew to tape ladder man who's never been to the grocery store before oh my god oh wait what's what's your other gripe? I like to hear this, though. I mean, I'm from L.A. Like, I'm I'm I'm not offended by anybody coming to a city and being like, I don't like these things because I'm not. It's everyone has their own experience.

But I am curious, especially through the eyes of a comedian, someone who makes observations and is analytical. What is something else that you're kind of like, I could change this fucking thing, change one thing and make it better. OK, well, as a comic, I got to say LA audiences. And this is going to make it sound like, well, then you're just not funny. But it took me a while to learn the language of LA audiences. Like one, y'all hyper pride yourselves on the exact street corner you live on.

So if you say something about how like, oh man, people over here like this, excuse me, I do not live on melrose i'm on the other street of west hollywood we're so different right right right like you can't make even slight generalizations at all like you have to be super specific and also like audiences are because it's like the average like schmuck doesn't doesn't have like the money and resources to do stuff so like most audiences are just like 22-old influencers who are just there to be seen. And they silent laugh.

The way hot girls laugh without sound is terrifying. Just like shoulder bopping. Like, don't move too much of your face. And then a question goes, you were so funny i was dying you're like well give it up then with your with your vocalizations tell your lungs tell your tell your body it's like a horror movie i'm like you can i can see you but i can't hear you well they're all background actors so they're used to being in the background where you're not allowed to make noise they're like we add the laughter later also no one is in a declared relationship which makes crowd work really fucking hard because you're just like how long you guys been together uh

uh i mean well i mean we don't really like what do you mean you don't like label very nebulous i'm her acting coach so oh, Oh, okay. Nevermind. Yes. And no, it's just, no one's like, so I learned to just kind of transition how I talk about things and come from a placement of like, they need to be patted on the back a lot. So if I'm just like,

you LA people are so cool. Cause you do this. Here's what the rest of the, like, it's. Oh, right. Just that framing of like,

you guys are so cool. Right. Right. Right. Everyone's used to like fake, with the rest of the like it's all right just framing of like you guys are so cool right right right everyone's used to like fake like everything it doesn't have a fake assness but like the compliment sandwich is how you have to present an idea or else you lose the crowd so fucking fast

and it's all right out on this pitch deck what stand up set she lost me when she didn't compliment sandwich me get to the call to action the what this isn't a fucking ad campaign yeah and they just i don't know it's also people who think they're really smart but like can't entertain an idea they haven't heard yet also like okay i'm just i'm just i'm loving this though because i you know i'm a transplant from the east

coast and there is a cultural difference to la that i like can't quite put my words around but i'm like i'm definitely not like their speed so like having you kind of put i i need people who are able to put this to words oh the east coast terrifies me y'all like the part of the country that runs on duncan i can't okay like boston ph, Philly, y'all scare. I walk too slow. I like, I take my time ordering. I look, Southerners were just built different. And I love that about us. And you know, what's funny is I had like zero Texas pride in Texas. And now it's like the first thing out of my mouth. I'm like, well, in Texas, I've gotten so so annoying that's so true there on the east coast i feel like there's a presumption of unhappiness like that there's a layer of like i don't know

catholic guilt or just like discomfort and that is something that i've like not been able to scrub out of my personality i'm just like we're all right this this sucks no no oh okay no no everything's great. Actually, you guys are great. There are some weird things about L.A., but like I said before, you guys are great. That was my attempt at a compliment sandwich. It didn't go very well. But as you can tell, I'm not good at L.A.

I mean, I've got it. It took me a while to figure out because I literally I think I was angry, too. So I get on stage and be like, you guys are sociopaths, man. Like, nobody likes a set that starts like that, where you're just like, you don't put your grocery cart back and you block two parking spots, you know, like, and they're like, not me individually. Not on this corner of the street. Yeah. Well, look, if you have, if you need a quick buck, just be a pedestrian in Beverly Hills and walk through a crosswalk. Chances are someone in a very expensive car is not looking and will make a

right turn straight into you. Yeah. And they'll do it while streaming live on Instagram. So you, you know, have the evidence. Yeah. There'll be witnesses for sure.

I believe it. I absolutely believe it. All right, Jasmine, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we are talking about there was a non-development in the explanation for why trump had all those documents but the new york

times certainly wanted to run with it so we'll talk about that uh we will talk about la city council really holy shit it sounds like a fucking movie yeah it sounds like the bad guys in a movie getting together to you know know, talk about stuff. And they're just checking the boxes like racism, gerrymandering, more racism, anti-Semitism, the whole the whole thing. Anti-Semitism. And y'all, they're Democrats, too. Wow. Yeah.

See how that works. It can happen anywhere. You see, the status quo can affect anybody. It's not a left or right thing at all. Yeah, yeah. Some people are like aghast. They're like, but how could they? I'm like, come on, y'all.

You know how power works. It's not one side doing it in a very holy way while others aren't. And then we might talk about why Airbnb is the best horror movie villain these days. I hate Airbnb. Yes. Good. Spooky. I think we will get to that story then.

All of that. Plenty more. But first, Jasmine, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Oh, God. What was the last thing I searched? Oh, collapsible Tupperware. Okay. So listen.

Hold on. I'm ready. This is the life hack we all need. Like I don't, if you carry a backpack, a tote bag, a Telfar, uh, whatever with you collapsible Tupperware is the way to go. Because like when you get the, like the boxes from the grocery store, it's not like really cold enough to actually keep anything just right. I love, I love a good restaurant with big portions and I am absolutely taking my leftovers home, but sometimes you can't always get them home. So I was looking up collapsible Tupperware and then I found like a great deal and I was like, oh, I'll just get some for me

and my mom and my sisters for Christmas. Well, hold on. So in this scenario, the Tupperware, the to-go container at the restaurant you're at does is not sufficient enough to transport your leftovers no is that what i like that's what i feel like i'm hearing rather than being like because i'm like is that a problem like you know how the restaurants take away fucking carriers are bullshit yes you never thought they were bullshit they're not strong enough wait go on but give me an example no take me take me with you on this journey of being of understanding how the restaurant takeaway containers are bullshit they're not okay they're they're flimsy they're weak most of the time they're made out of paper

you don't even get me started on paper straws look yeah stop putting the the honest on stopping climate change on regular people okay but hey i I will take, listen, I need my plastic straw. People who sip drinks. What did you say? I said people who sip drinks. They are the ones who are absolutely the cause of, and somehow solution to climate change. I,

I despise, I just, I hate it. I would rather put my mouth on a raw sidewalk than a paper straw. I hate it so much. You don't like having just the thing in your mouth just dissolve into little like soft paper chunks i got one right here with this coffee i bought and it's like it's it's puffing out right now it's starting to absorb i'm like okay the clock is ticking on this one it makes me so it's not even worth it never worth it but yeah disposable

not disposable collapsible Tupperware I was looking up different options and trying to find ones that are that had like the separation that way your foods don't have to touch oh wow I feel you on that yep here's what the inspiration for this and again weird Texas stuff my little sister was at the Texas State Fair and she was like girl I brought Tupperware with me to the State Fair it was the best idea now I have turkey leg for weeks so just turkey that is that is a large collab like that is a I feel like you need a tent layout to be getting multiple turkey legs and a piece of Tupperware that's kind of impressive can you hold a bass guitar in there just act like yeah in a medium tail far you could fit like three turkey legs okay okay if you if you use foil paper and a good

a good long ways oblong rectangular yeah right right right i i bet you were looking for something juicier or weirder than that. But that was the last thing I searched. Well, first, I just like the idea of meeting somebody who is dissatisfied with the fucking takeaway shit at a restaurant. Where they're like, yeah, I'm gonna take that to go. And like, you know what? Actually, fuck that. I brought my own this time. Because y'all are fucking around in here.

Right. But at first, I thought you meant that because as somebody who has like a just chaotic collection of Tupperware. Oh, my God. Collapsible Tupperware seem like actually one of the best ways to store it rather than the fucking tornado of plastic that is in like one of my cabinets that I call where we keep the Tupperware. So I thought maybe I was like, oh, this is a solution to the chaos in the Tupperware cabinet. Yeah. Also a good solution. Yeah.

No, see, that is the normal reason why people look it up. I know most people are not thinking, I got to have something that takes up as little space as possible in my purse. Because they are fucking around at Cheesecake Factory. I am such a fucking bag lady. I love it. Not only do I always have the biggest purse you've ever seen, I bring it on stage with me.

And I don't even like, because I just don't trust these hostses to watch i love it i feel like so i just the amount of times i'm just like excuse me and i just sit down this huge mary poppin sack and start telling my jokes and i don't think there's anything maybe that's why i'm struggling with these weird crowds i need to acknowledge the giant ass bag this isn't a big legs yeah they're like i just don't trust any of y'all in here with my turkey legs no i do i do like miles's idea of like doing a guitar case like the movie desperado where antonio banderas carries around a guitar case but like it's just filled with collapsible tupperware or just not collapsible tupperware

turkey legs yeah you're just there also i like what I believed was the reference to the movie Toys because LL Cool J in that film, he didn't like his food touching. He would say in the cafeteria scenes, he doesn't like his food. And I took that as a habit as a kid because I looked up to LL Cool J at that time and I was like, I don't like my food touching. So I demanded similar Tupperware as a kid. And my mom said, well, you will eat the school lunch. What is something you think is overrated? I've already talked shit about LA. I can't say the entire

city of Los Angeles. I also have not explored enough of it. I can't judge all of LA on the Galleria at the Glendale. Please don't. You got it. We're trash. That guy's about to be's a whole town. This guy, actually. Yeah, we're trash. That guy's about to be mayor anyway.

Something I think is overrated. Oh, this is hard. Oh, mom, mom, mom, mom, mom, mom. What? I'm sorry. I'm making this so much harder than it has to be. You know what? Sprinkles cupcakes are overrated.

They're kind of. They have. Well, you really are at the mall. That's where my brain went because i visualized it's like usual suspects kaiser soze shit you're like the gallery of sprinkles the the katsuya there i just say it is they have a chokehold on the cupcake economy and i feel like they are everybody's go-to when you think of cupcakes and they're kind of dry they're kind of they're kind of not that great they i don't even like how formulaic the icing looks it always looks like a human never touched it which is supposed to be like oh it's the cupcakes of the future but like i don't like this robot-based economy we're leaning towards i want to see like think fingerprints and shit you

know yeah i want to know somebody human error but, yeah. It's just a big thumbprint pushed into the icing on top of your cupcake. Just a big bite out of the side. There you go. I would know somebody's anti-lixing. Some weird hair stuck in there. Yeah. Oh, no. Pretty soon the robots will be like, we placed those fake hairs there digitally.

That's so interesting, though, because that does feel like part of their aesthetic is that no human touched this because you can get the you can get the um the vending machine yeah the vending machine that they call the cupcake atm which also again automated like it seems like that is what they're going for like no that's yeah that's all the appeal back here i'm telling you suzyie Cakes, so much Susie Cakes. It's so much better. Oh, my God. The strawberry Susie Cake cupcake is a seven-year-old birthday party stopper for me. I will get very selfish and start elbowing the kids out of the way. Because they do that little divot in the top, so you get extra icing in there. Oh, beautiful. Susie Cakes. The luscious lemon flavor is so good.

They know what I'm here for. Also, Porto's. Porto's better. I mean, they don't make cupcakes, but Porto's is just great cakes. Oh, yeah. in there oh suzy cakes the luscious lemon flavor they know what i'm here for yeah also portos portos better i mean they don't make cupcakes but portos is just great cakes oh yeah one thing i like here look look there it is came around to the cuban bakery what's something you think is underrated i can't say beyonce's song beyonce's album renaissance because everybody's talking about it's okay blah blah blah but like i i guess it is properly rated i don't know unless is there a dimension to it you you're we're not we're not we're missing i feel like people are not giving the song all up in your mind the credit it deserves it is when you look at anybody's list it is number 12 out of 12 it is all by everybody's least favorite song

and i gave it another listen to it and there's just like some really great lyrical things going on with it that I think it underappreciated because it just gets. I think it's just the album is so good. Mentally, you need a break. But I think people need to like give that. I hope that's the song we get a visual to first so that it makes everybody start liking it. I think that is the most underrated song on one of the best rated albums of the year. Because you used to be a DJ, right? Mm-hmm.

Not a DJ. I was a radio host, like a morning show host on a radio show. Yes. Got it, got it, got it, got it. Okay. Because I was like, I know you have an affinity with music.

So I was like, okay. The fact that you're even like, you got to give an album a rest. That's somebody who listens enough to music because I feel like, okay, where, what I know you're looking, the fact that you're even like, I got it. You got to give an album a rest. That's somebody who like listens enough to music because I feel like any album just, it will sound completely different. The second, like if you put a little bit of space in between the first time you heard it a week. Yeah.

It's wild how different something can sound. How is so important to like the first time I heard Renaissance, cause I could not wait because it was like Christmas morning for me. I turned it on in my hotel room. I got a low volume cause I didn't want to wake anybody i was in atlanta on the show i was like oh this is the sound of your footsteps dancing is louder than the music just shuffling yeah straight up though like and i'm the bs beyonce fan ever i thought it was a little like i was like this is kind of like zara music this is like, I didn't like it. Hi, welcome to Zara.

Yes. This Zara music is such a devastating own. It's very fortunate for Beyonce that you came around on the album because I feel like that's, that is a hard, hard one to shake. It took me less than 24 hours. The next day I went to the gym, headphones on. And then I was like,

Oh, you just can't listen to this shit sitting down. When I was like on the treadmill, I'm in my bag, bag, bag. Like you just have to let yourself feel it. And I was like, yes, this is it. First time I listened to it off of off my iPhone. Second time just with headphones on, just like laying down in the sun. It just like just it was like it was like a heat wave. I feel like,

and I was just like, just being like, yes, give me all this energy. Now you woke up and your body was dancing. You didn't even know. Your body was just dancing unconsciously. I came to,

I was doing a death drop at a ball. I had no idea. I had no idea what happened to me. Okay. I got to know. I got to know. What is your, like,

what are your favorite parts? Is there like one thing that pick out that you just love about it? I'm not going say I love I just love I'm a huge election. I love all music. I used to be a DJ, but like part like mixing, scratching DJ back in the day, I've made music my whole life. So I really like to shift towards house music, because I felt like that's just such a, it's such an underratedrated black genre and for her to take to step into that i was like oh this is fucking fantastic and at the same time opens up of like a conversation about even house music too for a lot of people because a lot of people look what is well some people like had no idea about house music and its connections to black culture and people thought she was just making like i think the the sort of vague take people give is like it sounds like czar music while there's like no no no she's doing something here cozy i think is my favorite song on that album cozy is very underrated when you see people's lists most of the time it's like yeah that's number 12 and then cozy like number 11 but it's

just you gotta let yourself feel that one i like that one a lot i have been on a heated loop lately okay i went from being like what is beyonce doing to being like yada yada yada boom boom i've completely given it to it i have a fan now like it's out of control oh my god the other day i had to i woke up and i had to put a wrist splint on and i couldn't tell if it was from sleeping, texting, or playing with my fan card. Oh, because you were just giving that fan. Fan me off, my wrist goes click. Wow.

I think I sprained it. Okay, so yeah, we're not going to play the fan card. They should issue a warning with the album. They should let people know. Jack, do you have a favorite Beyonce moment? I was just looking at my i have thick on a playlist yeah i think thick is is the one that jumped out to me but i'm also famously six months behind on all music so i'll be getting everything i'm gonna come back and listen to this podcast in six months and be like yes this is right this is exactly guys this lil nas x old town road i'm telling you it's gonna go this kid's going places so much of my music is just like listening to music and my kids are like i like

that song and then it gets added to the playlist and then we just like burn it to the ground listening to that song over and over so yeah well i was into little nas x probably a year after the album came out for sure that is wait till you hear the full album man montero man you're gonna love it as long as you get there bud as long as you get there yeah i'm on the timeline of like car commercials like once the songs start appearing in car commercials i'm like yeah okay that's that's about what i'm finding out about them too you're like my dad yeah yeah he's like the nfl likes to use stuff about like six seven months later so he was like

who sings that i told you long ago on the road i was like daddy are you singing he's like he's like guys have you singing? He's like, he's like, guys, have you guys fucking heard this new track? It's a banger. What is this now? I saw it in a herbal essences commercial about 25 years ago. Oh,

that was the first concert I went to, but he watches TMZ. Oh, does he? Yeah, so he knows like, he'll be like, that Kanye, he can't name a Kanye song, but he can tell you everything Kanye said. He knows that character from the TV show he watches. Yeah. Right.

My dad's 70, so I'm not comparing you to a 70-year-old man, but like, maybe a little. Oh, yeah. I got plenty of 70-year-old year old man and he's heard of that kane west guy all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back i've been thinking about you i want you back in my life it It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project.

All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours. BPM 110. 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not.

What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people.

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And we're back. And, you know, the details, theories are continuing to trickle out about what Trump was doing with all those classified nuclear secrets. And we got one thesis from Trump whisperer Maggie Haberman that he was just trying to clear his good name.

Right. Yeah. It's he has this pattern of just he knows how to throw out a headline to get everybody talking about the headline when what's actually happening is so much worse so like you know the thought of the discussion is like this guy's fucking he's absconding with classified documents top secret documents that nobody should have let alone somebody who's not the literal president at the moment and we're trying to like a lot of the speculation was like oh my god he could be selling nuclear secrets uh could be human sources like you know human assets that are in within the espionage industry or what a system on whatever I'm trying to say here. You get it. Fucking spies working with the CIA. But we weren't really sure. And although a lot of these are very possible, one thing that we're learning from Maggie Haberman is that there was this one specific plan.

I'm just going to read this this to you. this to you. Mr. Trump, for this from the New York Times, quote, Mr. Trump still determined to show he had been wronged by the FBI investigation into his 2016 campaign's ties to Russia, was angry with the National Archives and Records Administration for its unwillingness to hand over a batch of sensitive documents that he thought proved his claims. It was around that same time that Mr. Trump floated the idea of offering the deal to return the boxes in exchange for documents he believed or he believed would expose the Russia investigation as a hoax cooked up by the FBI. Mr. Trump did not appear to know specifically what he thought the archives had, only that there were items he wanted. And then, like, the thing goes on to say that everybody around him was like, dude, that is a terrible idea. There's no fucking way that's happening.

And so that's just the reporting. He had this idea and it didn't happen. And now everyone's like, oh my God, the dude was trying to fucking do a tit for tat deal, like switch swapping documents. And Marcy Wheeler, who's,

you know, writes a lot about this stuff, like kind of points out how, you know, Maggie helped Haberman. A lot of the time will wittingly or unwittingly fall into these things where Trump will give her a, quote, scoop. And then that headline completely distracts everyone from what is actually happening. And now the discussion is like, wait, so there's documents that could prove the Russia investigation is a hoax?

No, that's not true. But that's what everyone. But now the discussion is, well, what did these documents have? But that's what everyone but now the discussion is, well, what did these documents have when really there's a whole lot of chatter about like there was additional reporting over the found out he was trying to declassify, like weaponize more declassified documents at the end of his administration. So it's just a weird thing of just sort of chumming the waters with this like really good headline when other people are pointing out like some other just actual factual problems that would, you know, I guess potentially make its way to Trump or not. We don't know how the justice system will work in this instance, but

that's what it seems. Yeah. And this feels like a lot of, a lot of ideas and explanations have been put out. And this is the one that seems like it could be, could serve him well, because at least we've found out that, you know, whatever the motivations for the Russia investigation was there, it doesn't seem like that is ever going to come out as like he was working with Putin to get elected or at least, you know, they would they would have proved it by now. Or also, you're not going to find out that it was a hoax or unfounded. That was right. That's been disproven from Jump jump street so it's more of like this rhetorical when he's trying to get or he's just so fixated on it that's what's going on but at

the end of the day this i think what what marcy wheeler is also pointing out is like in 2017 when there's this discussion about what did donald trump jr talk about with like these like russian emissaries about potential child adoptions or whatever which at the time we knew meant was actually sanctions and shit right that right there was this whole meeting between donald trump and vladimir putin where there was no like translator that we found out about like after the fact but maggie haberman after interviewing him like kind of buried the lead there and just talked about how like uh the story that trump wanted out which was he wished jeff sessions didn't recuse himself from the russia investigation

and all this other side chatter shit yeah so you know it's just it's just a wild fucking ride through all this watching everybody carry water maggie haberman is in the very bad position that everybody who has ever found themselves in business or in some relationship with Trump is, which is like he always, those people always end up in jail or having their career destroyed. Or, I mean, you know, like Michael Cohen was, was the guy like coming into the 2016 election. He was like the most vociferously pro-Trump person. But he, by like publicly tying himself to Trump, like any relationship that someone can have with him is eventually going to turn into him destroying them in some way or another by, you know, using them in some

self-serving way that has no relationship to the truth and is only kind of serving this black hole that he has in the middle of them of like toxic narcissism. So I don't know. Like, I think she got there by just wanting to be the person with the access in the Trump world. But now she is she's the same as everybody who finds themselves needing Trump for something. And it never ends well for them yeah but we'll see we shall see i just think it's yeah with everything like of all the speculation that's going on that yeah to to sort of ignore the the facts and just go for whatever they think is going to make like the biggest splash of the stories yeah and of the 2000 lies that he has told about why he had those documents like that one seems like it might be

it's at least novel for actually like making a certain sense to some people right you know who aren't already brainwashed in the in the mega world and so that becomes the headline because that that is novel that Like, oh, okay. So what if there was a version of it? No, no, no, no, no, not what if. You have documents you shouldn't have. That's pretty straightforward. That's it.

No what ifs. Yeah. Keep it moving. Anyways. Should we talk LA City Council? Yeah, we fucking better. My God. Yeah.

Man, this is so fun. I mean is big this is this is the city baby i feel like whenever we see scenes like in films of like that sort of represent the cynicism and the the cronyism that runs rampant through like city governments if there's always like this constant trope where like in public the the people are very like soft spoken, diplomatic. They're like, I'm up. I'm here to champion. I'm here with the people and blah, blah, blah. And then they like cut to the back room where it's like smoking. Like, yeah, these fucking SOBs, they don't fucking know anything. They're a bunch of jerk offs like that kind of weird sort of switch goes on.

Well, my God, this new leaked audio from a few L.A. City Council members is as cliched as it gets, except without the weird New York accent. That would be great if they just affected a New York accent. Somehow, right? They're like, yeah, can you believe that guy Bonin? Yeah, screw that guy. He's with the blacks.

Although that is something they did say about. We'll get to that. Now, this was this was a leaked recording between city council president nuri martinez and council members kevin de leon gil cedillo and then the labor federation president ron herrera and they are just yucking it up like a couple of fucked up cartoon characters who are just they're right now they're basically talking the whole the whole everything they talk about ranges from how, you know, a gay city council members adopted black son looks like a monkey. As she said, there is another one to how they wanted to.

I think it's important to actually play some of these clips you can hear for yourself. And I'm telling you, this shit is fucking offensive. It's racist, although the L.A. Times will call it racially charged right yeah but here is this one this is one where she's talking about this guy's adopted black son about how first of all the kid needs a beat down uh because he was acting like a child yeah like a little white kid which i was like this kid needs a beat down. Like, let me take him around the corner and then I'll bring him back. Yeah. ¿Se me entiende? Ven pa'ca.

It's a pinch. Yeah. Or a pinch or something. It is. It is a pinch. So, anyways, getting back to redistricting. Yeah. Getting back to redistricting.

Getting back to redistricting. Wow. So, again, the point of this meeting was to dilute the power of, you know, other black and brown communities in Los Angeles and concentrate it in these in the city council members hands to figure out who they could align with to sort of lock up their power. Right. In the name of this meeting, like in the outlook calendar, was it like white supremacy meeting like our white? Well, yeah. Anti-black, anti-indigenous people. I mean, they it was it was wild. They had something to say about like Oaxacan people who lived in Koreatown. They're talking about Mike Bonin and his and his adopted child. And then they're saying like, oh't a fucked up ghoul like Jackie Lacey was who, you know, we ousted through a vote. And this one, they're they're describing Paul Gascon as being with the blacks. And I think that's meaning like the black city council members. But it's really I'll play this again for you.

This is this is one of like the acts like this is a progressive district attorney that we have in the city. And then this is what how they are describing them or, you know, how cynically they discuss him. All the, you know, folks like with that phone. He did call me. He wants to have breakfast with me. What is taking him so long? I haven't. I just said, hey, we need to talk. You supported him from the. All right. Don't worry, I got you.

So first she's saying this guy Gil, who's Gil Cedillo, who's in this meeting, it's like, that guy had his back or whatever. And he's like, yeah, I know, but, you know, things are changing. So Gil starts seeing him line up. He's with the blacks. So in the end she says, yeah, fuck that guy. He's with the blacks. Wow.

You know what? The biggest red flag to me is how you talk about human beings and other ethnic groups. If you use the word the before you're described, like the blacks, you're already, you know what I mean? You're never going to say anything positive. But this Martinez lady, yeah sounds so, so hateful. Like the, I need to beat it. Like that, that rage. I've noticed people who have like really, really deep seated, problematic racism, anti-blackness

in particular. It starts with how you, how you perceive black children. I think how you don't see them as children and give them the space to be kids like that little that little black kid was a nuisance a disturbance anything but a child to her right because he was black in public and also yeah that could get straightened out by getting a beat down or something too like oh i could break him because and that and it's really really scary because yeah we're talking about city council member but there are teachers there are there are teachers.

There are principals. There's people who work in schools and look at black children every day like they're just small criminals. Like they're just waiting for them to get big enough to end up in the prison system. That makes me really, really angry. They talked about even past guests, Hugo Sotoinez who came on when i wasn't here they talked about him and like you know ron herrera who's has to do with like labor in the city was like you know this guy's coming in and they're talking about how they got to protect uh mitch like the guy he's running against from this guy hugo who's like actually running on a progressive platform to like to actually solve the unhoused problem that we have in the city rather than just being like

a binary of like well you can go to some facility you can go to jail which is like rick caruso's current ethos like as a leader and people are like you see people making weird content where they're like shaming the unhoused and being like this is why you got to vote for rick caruso get these people out of here and make santa monica look cool it's like no it's not that's not the fucking solution but when you want to reduce it to something where you can just immediately be like well you know what those aren't people i'm sure that's a tidier way of looking at an issue rather than like doing the work to say no these are human beings that need help with a little bit of support we can actually turn their lives around or at least attempt to

and if they need more help then we can provide that to lives around or at least attempt to and if they need more help then we can provide that to them not everyone is going to be there not everyone's problems are going to be solved the same way but what we have to do is extend the the grace and our ability to look at people with humanity to these people because that's how you solve it you don't you don't treat if you treat people like trash then that mentality continues to like what you're saying jasmine looking at black communities or other brown communities, other communities of color, because in L.A., black Angelenos make up for about eight percent of the population and over 30 percent of the unhoused population. So we see how there are many ways in which we can address these problems

if we can look at people with humanity. But it's clear that the status quo is just about saying, well, some people we need to cast off to the side or this person like Nithya Raman. Like we got to we got to carve her district up because, you know, we need to dilute her power or the power of the residents that live in this area who want to see some kind of positive change. And they successfully did that. Right. Like her district was carved up and she. Yeah. Like I voted for her in the district that I live in. And, you know, a year later, she was no longer in my district. She no longer represented my district. I was now represented by the guy that they were talking about protecting. talking about protecting mitchell farrell yeah mitchell farrell who is running against ugo yeah so and i think it like it's important to see you know just how the status quo it has to it's like you're hearing it in real time how people are saying well we can't fuck with these people right they're trying to they're trying to you know carve up the power pie in equal slices. Yeah. And we can't do that. Oh, this person wants to actually help stabilize rent prices? Fuck that.

My biggest donors are commercial property owners. So I'm not about to fucking let this person in the city council get more power. That's a threat to my donors. So I'm going to stand out here and say what the fuck needs to happen. And they're saying it. That's what threat to my donors. So I'm going to stand out here and say what the fuck needs to happen. And they're saying it's it's that's what's so wild is like it's clear as day what they're what they want, how they look at people. And unfortunately, I think that's that's a pretty normal way, I think, not necessarily with the racism, but how cynically people in power will look at relationships within a community or who deserves representation or who does not. relationships within a community or who deserves representation or who does not. Yeah. And what I mean, I don't know, like maybe the racism is as open as it sounds like it is in these meetings. And we're just hearing the recording, but it sounds like they,

you know, when we're talking about these situations where people aren't treated as human beings and aren't treated with humanity. I think a lot of the time we assume that it's like this, it's just inertia from past institutions and that people wouldn't, like aren't behind the scenes actually just saying the thing out loud that is represented by their decisions.

So I don't know. I feel like this is pretty eyeopening. I think it's important for people. I think a lot of people, we talk about this too, really look at your local politics, really look at your local politics because you can see, like you go outside and look in the street.

What you're seeing out there is a reflection of the leadership that you're picking or in a lot of instances, not picking because a lot of people in LA don't fucking, they sit, they stay at home for city council votes which allows this group of insincere fucking clowns to just have their meetings and be like hey what are you gonna do about the blacks oh the jews already made a deal with south la like using this kind of language and like that's what their aim is is to cut people out of being able to, you know,

dictate what their lives can be. Yeah. Yeah. So as of now, the only one person who's actually resigned is Ron Herrera, but he wasn't on the city council. Nuri Martinez said she is taking a leave of absence. Okay.

So no, all these fucking people need to resign, which is wild because i was like damn you know like there's so many good progressive candidates coming up for city council and i'm like wow it's self-cleaning maybe it might it might do the job for itself but as of now a lot of people are being like sitting on their hands some people have called for resignations while others haven't and it's been a very straight fucking chaos yeah in terms of local politics and i think you know i think the point that jasmine made is a really good one that the treatment of black children is something that is going to be clear to

everyone except people who are like thoroughly you know committed to anti-black racism and it is it happens every day in classrooms like you see it with like people call it the you know classroom to jail pipeline and you know that that shit is real and it should be the easiest story to tell people to let everybody understand that there is a huge fucking problem that is you know instinctively is is you know devastating that we we need to be paying attention to and like the the fact that that is the basis for or at least like the kind of number one thing that is for first being called attention to and in this in these leaked recordings i think is at least good for calling attention to that you know that it's there and it's constant

i think being able to you know take that next step right of understanding what racism is or what discriminatory behavior is is to say okay are you is your ability to analyze shit at level one where you hear a tape like this? That's so on its face, racism. Oh, my. That's that's bad. That's right. I don't like that. Can you then go a couple of layers further down and look at how policies, whether they just even though they're maybe completely deracialized language in a language sense, because you're just looking at legislation. But then can you look at who that affects and who it protects? And then from there begin to extrapolate whether or not this is something a bill that would favor a group of people over another and then be able to apply the same level of outrage to that? Or does it always have to have the N-word or some shit like that in it for people to be like, right, that's racism. That's what drives me crazy. That's what drives me crazy about a lot of people. And I don't want

to like single out people on the right, but I kind of am here because I've noticed this thing of like, well, you know, you're the ones making it all about race. You know what I mean? I didn't bring up race at all. It doesn't say anything. All I'm saying is that this is that and the other. And it's like, if you, if you can see what's clearly in front of you, then you're making things about race and making things more divided. I've just, I, I've just dealt with this a lot with a lot of people where to derail an issue, they'll pretend that race has nothing to do with it. And it's just this completely odd thing and like unless a cross is burning in your front yard nothing's actually racist and you can't actually ever see something as like this is instinctively causing harm to this group that's willful and if you point out

unfairness then you're like you know what i mean like oh god this is the discussion about crt is a big one um i have family and friends that are teachers in the South. And just like this, I keep bringing up education here because I think I'm just, I am so personally, we overuse this word, but personally triggered by her knee jerk, just joking around about physically harming a Black child. That it's like, it's something in my gut, the auntie in me is bothered. And, but like, that's a big thing is like, well, you know, if we talk about race, then we're being racist. And so then it's this like backwards thing where you can do things that actually harm people and create situations that are unfair as long as you don't discuss race, because the problems in the words, and it's, it's, it's just this weird outpouring of like it's this backlash to this i don't know this is kind of like 90s gen x thing of just just don't just don't call anything anything just don't say black don't say white and it's like you can acknowledge a prop like it's the dehumanization it's it's the v you know what i mean and and that's so frustrating to me

i mean yeah try to to the point of like trying to go levels deeper, like try to view your society with fresh eyes. If you're coming to it with fresh eyes, you see that Black Americans are caged in prisons and jails at rates beyond what was happening in South Africa, like in the 80s during during apartheid like beyond what and it's like something then that everyone recognized as a humanitarian disaster and issue and it is happening around you right now and then you know to miles your point the you know outsized representation of black angelinos on in the unhoused community like just try to take a step back and just why is that why is that what person who says it's not racism what's your answer right because i bet it's probably gonna be some racist shit actually yeah well you know those people which people right well it also okay as a black i guess i'm a black angel i don't know a black resident of Los Angeles County. Yeah. I don't know.

Okay. Los Angeles is one of the most diverse places I've ever been. It's the most segregated place. Yes. Segregate. Like, okay. And it's interesting to see to me, like, there's more ethnicities that are more divided and more like this part of town is this. Which I think is super cool.

I think it's great. and more like this part of town is this and this, which I think is super cool. I think it's great. In some ways, it's very great to have spaces that are historically this culture is represented. You know, I've never had Ethiopian food till I moved here. You know, I know like you get to experience all these things in these pockets, but I feel like for a lot of black Americans in Los Angeles, like the areas for black Americans for, but the areas where they are shrinking and shrinking and shrinking and, and they're getting priced out. Oh yeah. Oh, and we're not really doing anything about that. And it's sometimes it's hard too, because we want to be like, well, you know, like the BIPOC representation is great.

There's so many Asian and Hispanic people in middle Eastern and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, okay, but black, but black, let's just say black. That's still part of, yeah. That's like what the anti-blackness that's happening. And then, and then you're being divisive, but it's just like, it's, it's interesting to see. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't have enough. It is. And yeah, like, you know, I'm my, my dad's black grew up in LA and they've been my family or before that, my grandparents came from Chicago and then they settled here like in the 50s or, you know, they started a family here in the 50s. And it's always been like that. I remember, you know, growing up just South L.A. was just where black people lived. And then there were pockets of black people over people or, you know, then people end up going to like Lancaster or Palmdale and things like that.

and things like that. But as you look at it right now, the places that are, you know, like you look at Baldwin Hills, which used to be called like the Black Beverly Hills, is now becoming, people are getting priced out. It's gentrifying because it's close to Culver City where a lot of tech companies have rooted themselves now. And you are seeing just like the communities just don't look the same. And a lot of people, especially progressive politicians or people running for leadership in the city, understand how essential it is that we have these vibrant communities of color. Because that's actually what makes LA LA. Over time, if we just let the market play out, it is just going to be completely just bulldozed. And the neighborhoods aren't going to sound the same look the same smell the same just we're going to lose all of these characteristics and that's

really a huge part of what's at stake just with affordable housing yeah is to be able to keep people where they've fucking been for generations and and understand that that's their right to be there rather than siding with fucking commercial real estate developers or landlords and be like, actually, you have a right to make massive profits and crank up your rent fucking 10x every year if you fucking want to. I don't give a shit. Fuck those people. That's what we stand to lose. That's the main issue that Ugo and Nitya are fighting for. And of course, that is who they are talking about tactically taking out of positions

of power in this meeting that we're talking about like that was the function of the meeting and i mean and and then you ask the question of where will those people go who get priced out of the the neighborhoods and get moved out and like just going back to the prison, like we came across a detail where someone was talking about they were working on a prison documentary and the filmmakers were moving around non-Black prisoners to be in more shots to cover up the truth that this is a system for caging Black Americans. Like that is one of the primary functions of this system. And that is so visually evident that they had to cover that up just to make a different point. Because when you look at just what the reality is, that's the only point that you come away with.

So that's how thorough and kind of intricate the lying is. But it's so many people love to believe the lie that like, well, black people just commit more crimes. They're just they just love crime. It's just they just wake up and they're like crime for breakfast. Like that's just they'd rather just believe there's some intrinsic like some intrinsic like I don't know just some deformity with us like instead of seeing like maybe these areas are over policed maybe the the judges are biased maybe they give strong they do they absolutely do give bigger longer sentences to black americans and i mean it's i they just if you ever looked at the instead of maybe you guys you guys are on the pulse of

everything did you look up on twitter when there was that thing, criming while white and white people would just admit to like petty shit they did as teenagers in their twenties where they could have gotten like long sentences they didn't. Right. And when I just think about like now, even like, you know, I'm in my thirties, but just like, like I didn't even touch marijuana until I moved here because I don't do anything illegal. I don't do anything illegal. I don't do anything illegal because I know there's no grace for me. I know there's no grace for people who look like me.

And I know so many people who are just not even white, but just not black, who kind of have this understanding that they will be given grace so they can make mistakes and they won't forfeit their entire lives. Right. Right. Yeah. I mean, it's the same thing of like, it's funny. Like when I was a kid, people were like, oh, let's go on this. Let's let's go to like grab some shit off this person's lawn. I'm like, bro, I can't go on with some fucking person. Fuck that. We're like, what?

I'm like, you are white, bro. Like I'm I'm raised different. My dad told me, fuck, all bets are off when you cross somebody's property line because some motherfucker literally is waiting for that. Yes. To do harm to you. Yes. Like that Martinez bitch. She would.

She's the type. If a black kid ran across her lawn to just be like, you're on my property. That's that mentality. One of the most powerful people in Los Angeles. And that's how she views a child. Yeah. Yeah. It is.

It is a complete different thing. And to your point, like, it's really about people. Americans have to evolve their thinking. Say this every fucking almost day. I feel like how they define crime because crime isn't to your version that, you know, you're pointing out, Jasmine, that some people like to believe, which is some people are just fucked up bad guys from a comic book character, and it's a whole community of them. Or a whole group of people have been disenfranchised systematically for centuries, are left to fend for themselves with very little resources, are excluded from the traditional economy. So other ways of surviving emerge that might be extra legal. Now, are these people doing it for the fucking hell of it people don't commit crime for fun if people are committing crime sometimes a lot of shit is survival crime and that's and it's wrong to look at that and say well this person stole this shit from a store what i'm sorry people stealing the same shit in the

supported communities i don't think so because they have they have access to resources so when you see that shit locked up which you should be saying is oh we're failing these people yeah yes we're failing these people not these people are fucking criminals no that the crime is a fucking expression of your failure of leadership not of these people's entrenched you know genetic just predisposition to commit crime and i think as long as we let that narrative cook or be unchallenged with like news stories that just take police data of uncritically then we're going to continue that we'll never be able to really get to that point where we have to extend that humanity to people

understand well the solution is actually giving people support like every single fucking study shows sidebar uh i'd never heard the expression extra legal before and i'm going to start running with it like i i didn't know that was an expression like a real thing to say but i'm going to use it to do anything i want i'm like it was extra legal yeah yeah coming with three coupons so absolutely all right but yeah yeah yeah i mean so it's yeah the it's a fucked up story we're going to continue to be paying attention to the la city council and hopefully having some people on who can speak to it a little bit because as we mentioned before the la city.A. City Council is, you know, they are some of the most powerful people in Los Angeles. But yeah, as you guys have mentioned, value is like, you know, it's just it's it's everywhere and it's enraging. And, you know.

Yeah, I mean, you know, it's and I think that's why we're such at such a critical moment in the city. Right. We have Rick Caruso, one of the biggest fucking commercial real estate developers running to be mayor. Yeah. Like and and then you have a whole group of people in the city council who want to be lockstep with him to be like, you know how we get rid of unhoused people. Right. Just ship them the fuck out of here. We don't we don't solve it. Stay in his lane and just put a suzy cakes

in the mall you know just just do what we ask get this variety in our cupcake you know what i mean just stick he's got he's got your vote if he's like hey i'll replace this the fucking sprinkles with suzy cakes no i vote for him as the mayor of malls but go be that go go be mayor mcgallery just do that and nothing else i'll be so happy stay away from everything else yes all right let's take a quick break we'll come back we'll talk about airbnb horror movies i've been thinking about you i want you back in my life I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that.

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and a month ago this movie barbarian which you're not allowed to talk about it's a movie where the marketing campaign is like yo don't just just go see it don't say a single damned thing about what what it is so we're gonna we're gonna talk about one just one very small part of the premise that i think you learn within like 15 minutes so if if you are really still trying to not know a single damn thing about barbarian maybe skip maybe skip ahead to the barbaric discourse abounds so part of the reason for barbarian success might be that it features the best horror movie villain of recent years which is airbnb so that the premise is a woman arrives at a rental you know like a airbnb type rental only to find that some other

dude is using it and things get worse from there and the the things that people are telling you like not to spoil are more the things that happen after that so i think we're i think we're okay i've still not seen it i still feel like i can go in with eyes closed as to, you know. Okay. I haven't seen it, but you know what's hilarious? There is a Netflix rom-com with the exact premise. Oh, really? Like, it goes well.

So it's called In the Villa because, like, it's called In the Villa. And it is about this girl who has a vacation rental. And she shows up and a guy is there. And she's like, get out of my house. And he's like, you get out of my house. And then they start pranking each other and fall in love. And she shows up and a guy is there and she's like, get out of my house. And he's like, you get out of my house. And then they start pranking each other and fall in love. So I feel like this is like the dark coin of that.

It's like the pranks must be murders is what you're assuming. That's so funny. Our writer, Jan, was pointing out that, you know, in the 80s, the big sort of new idea that they had was making horror movies in the suburbs because a lot of people were moving to the suburbs and were like part of the idea was you buy a home you like sink most of your money into owning a home and then the home is poltergeisted you know like the home turns out to be haunted and so it's like a financial horror story as well. But, you know, today, you know, millennials and Gen Z can't afford homes in the suburbs. The horror today makes it makes sense. And just all stories, I guess, makes sense being not about homeownership, but the fact that we're always stuck living inside some weirdos property. And, you know, Airbnb is a really clear distillation of that anxiety and all the like home rental things that.

Yeah. I mean, there's been a there's been a bunch of these movies that like there's a movie called The Rental, which even before the horror stuff starts, one of the characters is subjected to racism from the host, which is a documented huge problem in real life. Airbnb is like we're trying to address it. Like they have a, they tried in one city to just give people the initials of their renters. But I mean, if the, if the person is going to be racist, then it's not going to be a good situation. Change that profile pic, fam. Right. See, but I almost, I feel like I want the opposite.

Like, I want them to know I'm black so they can just deny me before I'm black on their property getting treated poorly because they thought I was white. Yeah. It's funny. The first time I got rejected from Airbnb, like using my own picture, I was just like, oh, okay. And I was like, hey, Nick, why don't you try booking this thing real quick? And he's like, yeah, instant book. I'm like, yeah, okay. And I was like, hey, Nick, why don't you try booking this thing real quick? And he's like, yeah, instant book. I'm like, yeah, okay. All right.

You know what? I'm going to have to say no to this fucking place real quick. Right. But yeah, I mean, it happens for sure. And it's funny how they, like you're saying, they try to just keep it like a fucking confessional booth where it's like, I know not of any detail of you, God's child. Right. Please rent my income property. Yeah. And I mean, there was also a long trend of people

in horror movies that were set in hotels, like The Shining. Psycho is probably the best example of like, what if you checked into like really the worst possible hotel situation that you could come up with? There's also one 1408 that I haven't seen, but just the innate creepiness of sleeping in an unfamiliar room owned by strangers.

But even in that case, like the hotel industry wasn't the thing that was itself evil. And now it feels like Airbnb just like fits much better to the, I was like, Airbnb just like fits much better to the extent that the rental also has a plot where the villain is a former renter who made copies of the keys and then can get into the house. And that was, sorry, and that is a spoiler for the rental, but that was actually something that happened in 2015 in a real airbnb that resulted in sexual assault but airbnb wrote the survivor a check for seven million dollars in exchange for a signed agreement not to talk about it so it but so the movie came out before anyone knew that that had already happened in 2015. So it's, yeah, it is really like scary,

scary times. It's like Airbnb is like the internet was like in 95 or some shit. We were like, Ooh, we're like just the concept of it, like embodies so much already like Airbnb where you're like, yeah, man,

I heard about the racism. I heard about hidden cameras. I hear about fucking people making copies of keys and spying on people it's like yeah okay there's a lot to play with there yes all of that is see this is why okay i don't do horror like i am a scared scared bitch i i every other genre movie i love it fun fact about myself i am married to a man that is a horror writer like he's an aspiring horror writer he's been published. He reads it, watches it, writes articles about it.

He was published. Like part of his novel was published on the no sleep podcast lives and breathes this scary stuff. It's not inspiring. He's a, he's an actual horror writer. Yeah. He makes me say aspiring.

No, he's not. He's real. Hey, get him in here. Let's do some therapy. Because he doesn't like to like take too much credit which is like so the opposite of la everything is like i i modeled once so i'm a model you know my hand was in a commercial you know make it he's earned money at this i won't let me call him an actual whatever

that's that's pro okay but he's a pro okay pro a Okay. A pro? I love it. I am so scared of everything. And I try to support this man from a distance. But he's seen all the scary stuff you're talking about. He's seen all of it. And the thing is, I can't do any horror movie made after 2001. Because everything stopped being

supernatural. And now the killers are just crazy people. And I can't... You know what I mean? i can't you know what i mean i can't it's like not someone in a mask it's like hi i'm your gardener and you're like oh shit i need it to be ghost spirits demons goblins vampires you know some shit that like uh you know my my christian guilt makes me think isn't real yeah no i if it's a a guy a guy who i live with who just made a key. Yeah, that is too.

It's too scary for me. And also I'm on the road a lot. I stay in a lot of I only do hotels. I only do chain hotels. I like very, very specifically for that reason. Also, I just hate paying to clean a place. That's already absurd. I have to clean it, then pay to have it clean. One or the other. Like, why both? Like, I'm not paying cleaning fee, yeah. That's already absurd. I have to clean it, then pay to have it cleaned.

One or the other. Like, why both? Like, I'm not paying a cleaning fee and cleaning. That's stupid. I'm sorry. $300? How about I don't pay that? I'll clean the shit myself.

Just don't charge me $300 fucking dollars and then ask me to clean, too. Right. That's stupid. The Holiday Inn has got me. You know what I mean? Now, do I come in there with my Lysol wipes and, like, wipe everything down? And my Tupperware of food just overflowing everywhere. But like, but I just, I just, Airbnb has given me the, like one time I had to stay in one and the washer dryer broke and they like tried to claim I broke it. And it was this whole back

and forth. And that was like a legal nightmare. Like, like they didn't, they really couldn't prove that I broke it, but just all I did was wash my clothes. But it's just, it's too much rigmarole. It's too,

it's too much. Yeah. Yeah. And there, there's also the, the fact that like, you know, I know that there were stories about somebody swinging on a swing at an

Airbnb. It was like an older gentleman. And it was like a rope swing hanging from a tree. But because it's not a hotel that has a legal team that goes through on a regular basis. And I was like, this is a liability. They hadn't checked the swing. The branch broke when he sat on it. And it killed the guy.

Oh, my God. Yeah. I mean, that's the shit that you just have to when you're going into an airbnb or like any situation like that like these are not vetted you know they they don't have a vetting team yeah that's you know what watching their ass so yeah they use the doll furniture like it's like the cheapest ikea furniture with like prison mattresses like it's not good yeah it's because sometimes it truly is a mirage and like you're saying like how all these films kind of like embody some sort of dimension of our current dystopia like

an air the promise of an airbnb and all of our dreams and shit like in the dreams that haven't been fulfilled whether it's regards to being able to trust each other or affordable housing. It's all there. It's a great premise for a horror movie, though. There's a new one coming out called All My Friends Are Dead about a group of, this is a quote, a group of close college friends who get a steal

on a killer Airbnb for the biggest music festival of the year. And that wording, that language is foreshadowing. That sounds like some shit that someone my age came up with an idea one coach like, you know, fucking crazy, dude.

Okay, dude, this whole fucking house, right? Like we get a fucking seal on this place, dude, but it's fucking like there's a fucking killer that lives in here, dude. that's the ultimate cost dude and we juxtapose that with like all the fucking joy that we're feeling dude yeah yeah dude chop another one up oh my that's so fun you know what you bring a great point about like how millennials we can't afford houses so the dream is just to take a nice vacation and i feel like that's happening with every established piece of media is like we have to be more realistic like you know how they have the housewife franchises yeah there's a new one called

real girlfriends of paris like we like no nobody's a housewife no one can afford to just be married and live in the house all right now you're just a girlfriend in paris that works and it's like like jim's gonna eat that up like relatable yeah yeah parasite also like the movie that you know took over the academy awards a few years back and is you know maybe i think it'll probably be one of the movies from the past 10 years that everybody kind of goes back to as as like a classic is also about people you know not not being able to afford a house and like basically living in a house that doesn't belong to them. And like, you know, the, the hell that our world of real estate like provide. So I don't know. Yeah. So Rick Caruso, give up on running for mayor and just

start generating all the movies based on all the horrors you've seen behind the scene of being a real estate magnate. I feel like. Or, hey, tune in to the new Netflix show. From the people from Selling Sunset comes Renting Sunset. There you go. Which you're going to love. You're going to love.

Well, Jasmine, it's been such a pleasure having you. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Okay. I'm on all the things at Jasmine Ellis Comedy. Just so you know, Jasmine's spelled with an E at the things at jasmine ellis comedy uh just so you know jasmine spelled with an e at the end so don't mix the jasmine ellis uh jasmine ellis comedy instagram twitter tiktok all the good stuff i am actually this is gonna you guys do this like daily right yeah it drops tomorrow oh cool if you're in la i am at the comedy store tonight because it'll be

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And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Oh, so much social media. I love TikTok. TikTok is a big hole for me. My current favorite thing is lineman drama so apparently and like the the deep deep south and the midwest was like basket bunnies

or some shit yeah yeah okay so the men who put the electrical wire up they have to travel a lot and there are these women like groupies for them called like a basket bunnies who were like trying to break up their marriages. And I love drama. That has nothing to do with me. I don't know nothing about electrical wires or this part of the South, but I love it. So if you know any more niche specific drama, please drop it in my inbox.

I love it. I live. Yeah. I was so confused. I was like, what is going on? Cause the, the drunk,

like people were talking as if like the way we were talking about fucking racism. These fucking basket bunnies. And you're like, what? Utah moms with all of that. The Utah women, the soft swinging, which is like swinging, but you're not allowed to do penetration. All of that is very funny to me. The fights between Bratz doll owners. I keep up with that kind of drama on my TikTok. So if you ever just see some video that on my

TikTok that looks like it has nothing to do with me, wait two seconds and then you'll just see a close up of my face like, I love niche drama. And I post about one of those a week of just stuff I found on TikTok that has nothing to do with me. Miles, where can people find you? what's the tweet you've been enjoying twitter and instagram at miles of gray also check uh jack and i out on miles and jack got mad boosties that is our basketball podcast oh my gosh the season is so close so close uh then also, if you like trash TV, well, come watch me and Sophia Alexandra get loud, smoking loud, talking about 90 Day Fiance on our show for 20 Day Fiance. If that so pleases you. OK, some tweets that I like. Let's see. Where is the first one? Oh, OK. First one is from South Streets at Gunna N nj boy tweeted i'm so glad the music in the club be loud because i'd be farting and shit love that so just so true look and great you know

that's your time to do it uh and then another one from at alex shane moore tweeted living in france will be so cool you get to be rude all day. The hospital is free. Your wife has six boyfriends. And all you've thought about since you could remember is dying. It's a good life. I like that. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. A couple tweets I like. Linz tweeted today, whilst out shopping, I tried on a beautiful jacket.

It was the jacket of a customer trying on another jacket, and now I can never go shopping again. I feel like I would do that shit. And I also liked a tweet from Mike Levinson tweeted, my friends and I only talk

shit about people who deserve it. We aren't gossips, we are vigilantes. I think that's just a nice way to think about when you're talking shit about people who deserve it. We aren't gossips. We are vigilantes. I think that's just a nice way to think about when you're talking shit about people who deserve it. I like that, though. But how do you measure that, Heath? Don't worry about it. Yeah, all right.

I like that. Yeah, I fuck with it, too. I'm like, they deserve it. They deserve it. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com,

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kind of caught in between wishing it was warm, but also ready to put sleeves on my body. But while I still think of the sunlight, think of this track it's called no me quieres and it's by sumo hair we did a sumo hair track maybe a month or two ago but this is sumo hair featuring fabi reina and it's just again makes you feel like the sun is still out a little bit so if it's gray where you're at maybe put this on just to give you a little bit of a you know a vitamin d like as if the sun is shining on you uh experience so this is uh no make it is all right well we will link off to that in the footnotes the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio

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